September 11, 2025 • 9 mins
The concept of evil is universal, ancient, and ever present today. The biblical book of Genesis clearly defines it when Cain kills his brother Abel out of jealousy. Evil is a choice to make another suffer. As long as human beings have walked, evil has been close by.Confronting Evil by Bill O'Reilly and Josh Hammer recounts the deeds of the worst people in history: Genghis Khan. The Roman Emperor Caligula. Henry VIII. The collective evil of the 19th century slave traders and the 20th century robber barons. Stalin. Hitler. Mao. The Ayatollah Khomeini. Putin. The Mexican drug cartels. Collectively, these warlords, tyrants, businessmen, and criminals are directly responsible for the death and misery of hundreds of millions of people.By telling what they did and why they did it, Confronting Evil explains the struggle between good and evil--a choice every person in the Judeo-Christian tradition is compelled to make. But many defer. We avoid the life decision. We look away. It's easier.Prepare yourself to read the consequences of that inaction. As John Stuart Mill said in his inaugural address to the University of St. Andrews in 1867: "Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Bill. How are you doing it?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Thanks having me on your program. I really appreciate it, dude.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I want to thank you for creating that YouTube channel
because I'll tell you what, when I'm driving down the
road and I need I need some answers, I know
that I can always go to you because I trust you.
And that's the relationship that you have built with me
for many, many years, is that you dig in, you
have historic facts, you've got present day facts. It's trust, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, I'm glad you see it that way.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I mean, we are the most successful nonfiction authors in
the world now, and I think we built that franchise
on no bulk. If you read it, it's true. My
researcher Josh Hammer is excellent. We go over everything very
very tight, and you know, we're not wasting anybody's time here.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Now I'm confronting evil.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
The book is elevated because we're writing about things that
are happening right now. There is history in it, obviously,
and all the people that we pro file, all the
evil things they did resonate today.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
But we got putin on the cover.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
The Iahtola this is nine to eleven week eleven never
would have happened without the Iyahtola Homoni and Iran sponsoring
this jihad. And people have got to make the got
become aware error, that's the keyword. Aware that evil just
doesn't go away. You know, we saw the Charlotte buss slaughter.
(01:30):
You know this guy was evil. Yeah, he's mentally ill,
but that's not excuse. He got on the bus, he
put the knife in his pocket. He's an evil guy,
beat up his own sister. Judges let him out time
after time. The judges may not be evil, but letting
him out was an evil act. And we Americans got
to say enough enough of this. And that's what I'm uh,
(01:53):
That's why I wrote the book. I'm trying to motivate
a movement to tamp down evil.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Things that you do inside this book. And I am
blown away by the formatics of this book. Is the
way that you do the chronological order in very short
sound bites. I realize this there's no sound, but inside
my heart, I'm hearing sound as each paragraph and I'm
so glued and addicted to it that i can't put
this damn book down.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Good.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I mean, I'm a storyteller and Irish storyteller. I go
way back to the twelfth century, and I'm gifted that
by God, I believe. But in an age where concentration
spans are very short because of the smartphones and the computers,
when you write a book, you've got to get people's
(02:40):
attention quickly and it can't be boring, right, And that's
why we've been so successful with the killing books and
now the confronting books, because we get right to it
and then the reader gets engaged as you are in it,
and I accomplish what I want to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, you know, you've got this book cover that just
scares the hell out of me. And then and then
of course, instantly I compare it to the photographs that
we saw last week from China with Putin as well
as North Korea. I mean, it's like, oh my god,
we're reliving history here you are.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And that's President Trump's challenge that evildoers are now consolidating
and they are strutting around.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They are arrogant. Putin is about as arrogant as you get.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, so, and he would use nuclear weapons in my opinion,
I mean, that guy is a psychopath. So you got
to be very careful with him, but you can't capitulate
to him. And that is Trump's most important mandate right now,
trying to neutralize Putin.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Please do not move. There's more with Bill O'Reilly coming
up next, the name of the book Confronting Evil, Assessing
the worst of the worst With Bill O'Reilly. Your book
opens up with the dedication to Reverend Tom Jordan, and
I want to know who he is because I don't
want I don't want to go into Google and look
him up because that's Google. I want to know why
(04:12):
it was so important to you to put his name
inside these pages.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, thank you for mentioning that if you google father Jordan,
you're not going to get anything because nobody knows him
as far as nationally is concerned. He's a missionary. He's
a carmelite missionary, and he had a nice, cushy job
in northern New Jersey where I met him my grandmother's parish,
(04:39):
and then he volunteered to go to Honduras and to
Torreon and Mexico and serve decades down there, helping the
poorest of the poor. And he's a force for good.
So I wanted to let him know he's at the
end of his life. Now that I recognize his contributions
(05:02):
to the world, and in stark contrast to the people
that were writing about in the book itself, the.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Book starts off with Caligula. And I got to tell
you something. I wish I could have a microphone in
every home that starts this book off, because my wife
was she was grumbling.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Her tones were like that ass Oh, my god, but
she couldn't put it down. She still went into those
pages and looked at it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah. The relevance of Caligula is.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
That Room was the most powerful nation in the world
in ancient times and it fell. And who's the most
powerful nation now? That would be us?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Hello, yep. And we're on the same road of Rome.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Distracted population, selfishness, vice, very little standard of social order,
all driven by this mad emperor Caligula. So that's why
I opened with that, because that's a message to every American.
Don't get cocky about our power, our status, our wealth,
(06:09):
our affluence, because he can go. And it went in Rome.
And here's why it went. And again, I'm a messenger,
I'm bringing a message.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I didn't know the story behind King Henry the Eighth,
the queen that was locked in captivity in a tower
that almost sounds like a fairy tale.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Well, Henry the Eighth makes the cut an evil because
what he did was personally abhorrent. I mean, my god,
we do you see how he treated his wives and
his best friend, Thomas Moore. But more than that, he
began religious strife and the wars, the religious wars that
(06:52):
came after him still resonate to this day. And so
we have a war between Islam and Christianity. We have
a war between Jews and Muslims, and that all started
with Henry the Eighth. And that's again, every person that
(07:16):
we profile in the book has a passageway to modern
times because Henry the Eighth was and then this guy
was just off the chart. So that's why he's in
the book.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, now, now let's okay. I understand that way, you know,
to get in order to be here in this present
place of now, we need that pass and I think
that you make that connection with the present day when
you've gotten photographs of El Chompo as well as Pablo Escobar.
I mean, they don't even look dangerous until you start
reading their story and you go, oh, they fit in
this world.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
When I was a kid, I don't know how it
was with you, Arab, but when I was a kid
in Levittown, Long Island, we had drug dealers and they
were pariahs.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
They were the lowest form of human idea.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Nobody would associated with them. Many of them were addicts.
But they're selling heroin, they're selling cocaine, whatever they were selling.
Now you go to urban centers and they're selling drugs
on the street. They got to bling their heroes. In
some quarters, they're rapping about them. I mean, it is
(08:22):
just a disgrace. Selling narcotics is evil. And the two
guys that we profile, ol Chapo and Escobar, they became
some of the richest, two of the richest men in
the world. And it's what they wanted was money. Two
things drive evil, money and power. For them, it was money,
(08:42):
just like the slave traders. Okay, they wanted money and
they didn't care how many people died, how many families
were ruined, how many people enslaved by addiction.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Couldn't care less. And then in their.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Private lives, My god, you know, they're like calligulas modern day.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So that's why they're in Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You and Josh, the way that you guys captivate me
with your historic facts. And I'm not the only one
because I know you're selling books, Bill, But man, you've
got to come back to this show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Thank you, Aerar. I appreciate you having me in today.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Will you'd be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Okay, sir, I'll try
Good morning, Bill. How are you doing it?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Thanks having me on your program. I really appreciate it, dude.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I want to thank you for creating that YouTube channel
because I'll tell you what, when I'm driving down the
road and I need I need some answers, I know
that I can always go to you because I trust you.
And that's the relationship that you have built with me
for many, many years, is that you dig in, you
have historic facts, you've got present day facts. It's trust, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, I'm glad you see it that way.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I mean, we are the most successful nonfiction authors in
the world now, and I think we built that franchise
on no bulk. If you read it, it's true. My
researcher Josh Hammer is excellent. We go over everything very
very tight, and you know, we're not wasting anybody's time here.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Now I'm confronting evil.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
The book is elevated because we're writing about things that
are happening right now. There is history in it, obviously,
and all the people that we pro file, all the
evil things they did resonate today.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
But we got putin on the cover.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
The Iahtola this is nine to eleven week eleven never
would have happened without the Iyahtola Homoni and Iran sponsoring
this jihad. And people have got to make the got
become aware error, that's the keyword. Aware that evil just
doesn't go away. You know, we saw the Charlotte buss slaughter.
(01:30):
You know this guy was evil. Yeah, he's mentally ill,
but that's not excuse. He got on the bus, he
put the knife in his pocket. He's an evil guy,
beat up his own sister. Judges let him out time
after time. The judges may not be evil, but letting
him out was an evil act. And we Americans got
to say enough enough of this. And that's what I'm uh,
(01:53):
That's why I wrote the book. I'm trying to motivate
a movement to tamp down evil.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Things that you do inside this book. And I am
blown away by the formatics of this book. Is the
way that you do the chronological order in very short
sound bites. I realize this there's no sound, but inside
my heart, I'm hearing sound as each paragraph and I'm
so glued and addicted to it that i can't put
this damn book down.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Good.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I mean, I'm a storyteller and Irish storyteller. I go
way back to the twelfth century, and I'm gifted that
by God, I believe. But in an age where concentration
spans are very short because of the smartphones and the computers,
when you write a book, you've got to get people's
(02:40):
attention quickly and it can't be boring, right, And that's
why we've been so successful with the killing books and
now the confronting books, because we get right to it
and then the reader gets engaged as you are in it,
and I accomplish what I want to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, you know, you've got this book cover that just
scares the hell out of me. And then and then
of course, instantly I compare it to the photographs that
we saw last week from China with Putin as well
as North Korea. I mean, it's like, oh my god,
we're reliving history here you are.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And that's President Trump's challenge that evildoers are now consolidating
and they are strutting around.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They are arrogant. Putin is about as arrogant as you get.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, so, and he would use nuclear weapons in my opinion,
I mean, that guy is a psychopath. So you got
to be very careful with him, but you can't capitulate
to him. And that is Trump's most important mandate right now,
trying to neutralize Putin.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Please do not move. There's more with Bill O'Reilly coming
up next, the name of the book Confronting Evil, Assessing
the worst of the worst With Bill O'Reilly. Your book
opens up with the dedication to Reverend Tom Jordan, and
I want to know who he is because I don't
want I don't want to go into Google and look
him up because that's Google. I want to know why
(04:12):
it was so important to you to put his name
inside these pages.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, thank you for mentioning that if you google father Jordan,
you're not going to get anything because nobody knows him
as far as nationally is concerned. He's a missionary. He's
a carmelite missionary, and he had a nice, cushy job
in northern New Jersey where I met him my grandmother's parish,
(04:39):
and then he volunteered to go to Honduras and to
Torreon and Mexico and serve decades down there, helping the
poorest of the poor. And he's a force for good.
So I wanted to let him know he's at the
end of his life. Now that I recognize his contributions
(05:02):
to the world, and in stark contrast to the people
that were writing about in the book itself, the.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Book starts off with Caligula. And I got to tell
you something. I wish I could have a microphone in
every home that starts this book off, because my wife
was she was grumbling.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Her tones were like that ass Oh, my god, but
she couldn't put it down. She still went into those
pages and looked at it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah. The relevance of Caligula is.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
That Room was the most powerful nation in the world
in ancient times and it fell. And who's the most
powerful nation now? That would be us?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Hello, yep. And we're on the same road of Rome.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Distracted population, selfishness, vice, very little standard of social order,
all driven by this mad emperor Caligula. So that's why
I opened with that, because that's a message to every American.
Don't get cocky about our power, our status, our wealth,
(06:09):
our affluence, because he can go. And it went in Rome.
And here's why it went. And again, I'm a messenger,
I'm bringing a message.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I didn't know the story behind King Henry the Eighth,
the queen that was locked in captivity in a tower
that almost sounds like a fairy tale.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Well, Henry the Eighth makes the cut an evil because
what he did was personally abhorrent. I mean, my god,
we do you see how he treated his wives and
his best friend, Thomas Moore. But more than that, he
began religious strife and the wars, the religious wars that
(06:52):
came after him still resonate to this day. And so
we have a war between Islam and Christianity. We have
a war between Jews and Muslims, and that all started
with Henry the Eighth. And that's again, every person that
(07:16):
we profile in the book has a passageway to modern
times because Henry the Eighth was and then this guy
was just off the chart. So that's why he's in
the book.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, now, now let's okay. I understand that way, you know,
to get in order to be here in this present
place of now, we need that pass and I think
that you make that connection with the present day when
you've gotten photographs of El Chompo as well as Pablo Escobar.
I mean, they don't even look dangerous until you start
reading their story and you go, oh, they fit in
this world.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
When I was a kid, I don't know how it
was with you, Arab, but when I was a kid
in Levittown, Long Island, we had drug dealers and they
were pariahs.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
They were the lowest form of human idea.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Nobody would associated with them. Many of them were addicts.
But they're selling heroin, they're selling cocaine, whatever they were selling.
Now you go to urban centers and they're selling drugs
on the street. They got to bling their heroes. In
some quarters, they're rapping about them. I mean, it is
(08:22):
just a disgrace. Selling narcotics is evil. And the two
guys that we profile, ol Chapo and Escobar, they became
some of the richest, two of the richest men in
the world. And it's what they wanted was money. Two
things drive evil, money and power. For them, it was money,
(08:42):
just like the slave traders. Okay, they wanted money and
they didn't care how many people died, how many families
were ruined, how many people enslaved by addiction.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Couldn't care less. And then in their.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Private lives, My god, you know, they're like calligulas modern day.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So that's why they're in Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You and Josh, the way that you guys captivate me
with your historic facts. And I'm not the only one
because I know you're selling books, Bill, But man, you've
got to come back to this show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Thank you, Aerar. I appreciate you having me in today.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Will you'd be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Okay, sir, I'll try
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