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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How you doing today? Justin Wells still on Aaron Man,
I'll tell you what. I'm ready to talk with you,
because you guys have got a sound here that is
just really really going to pump up the end of
the summer right into a beautiful fall right on.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'd love to hear that. I love to hear that.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
But you know, one thing that that listeners really don't
understand is the process of how it's getting to us finally,
because I mean, for a song to arrive inside of you,
get that studio time, get it engineered, get it you know,
everything working in there. How long did it does it
take to get a song really out here to us?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It really just kind of depends on the process.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I've been with things in the past where we've done
everything very di y done ourselves Mike, you know, Drunk
Kit and Home, and that's a long process with things
found Exavier, He's had a lot of experience recording himself,
but we have another person that we work with and
we'll kind of send out a final mix to him
and he'll you know, compress a eq it. So depending
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on the process, it can be anywhere from about like
you know, a month or you know, a couple of
months right now in the process of writing a new one,
and it's it's about ready to be finalized, but there's
a lot of moving parts. Or if someone has a
riff or someone has a be and we're trying to
collaborate or figure out how it works.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It really it kind of just depends.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm gonna be a with an author coming up later
on this week that talks about celebrating the indie sound
of the nineteen nineties, and right away I put on
the on the page of doing the research that we
are in an indie stage again. Do you feel like
that today is the day that all indie bands should
rise again?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know, with the idea of indie it's really hard
because people are asking, you know, what.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
A genre are are you?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And they when they don't want to be like pigeonhole,
they say alternative or indi, which is good.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think if you want to kind of.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Be, you know, reaching a lot of different you know,
genres or crowds, you would say something that's not very like, oh,
on metal or on rock. But you know, the idea
of indy independent or someone who is not necessarily following
a formula for genre. I think that is very prevalent
concentally because you have a lot of people who are
doing their in home studios, who are doing a lot
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of things themselves. I have a buddy who lives out
in California and he does all of his own vocals, guitar, bass, drums, everything.
So the idea of endy not really being a sound
but being more of a I'm an independent artist doing
my own thing, I think it's a lot more prevalent
in today's age, and it has been in previous decades
or previous movements of music.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I can totally relate with that. And the reason why
is because as a podcaster, I don't think I could
go back into a major corporation and allow them to
decide for me. When when being in that studio putting
music together, putting podcasts together, you're in control.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You can't give up that exactly. And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's what kind of does make the process a little
bit more time consuming.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But a lot more rewarding.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Because you know, you have these you know, bigger businesses
or bigger labels, and they have their own quotas and
they have their own idea of success or formos and
for some people who works great.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You know, some people they just have this very go with.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
The flow attitude or like, hey, I have a talent,
I just don't know where to put it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And they have found like that guidance, which is great.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
But people who are a little bit more like I
have a specific sound that I want to go for.
I don't want anyone kind of you know, muddling in
those waters. It does take a little bit longer, but
I think it's much more rewarding where you can say,
you know, I did this or this is my thing,
and you know, I think we see that a lot
more in today's day and age, because you have a
lot more people who are more proficient and you know,
you know all these different adult studios, Reaper and things
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like that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Being very d I y when it comes to the
song euphor your master. Am I wrong to think that
there is a PROG influence here or in my ears
just screwed up?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
No, definitely so with me Xavier or Nick.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So funny thing is, we've known each other in the
scene for almost about like ten years now. We've just
been in our own separate projects and recently there's been
a little bit of line up change and we've had
the opportunity to kind of come together with the Xavier
on this and kind of bring our our influences into
the into the process. I know with Xavier and Nick,
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they do have a lot of like, you know, I
would say old school rock or punk. They're really big
in the horror so like nine inch Nails, things like that.
And then myself, you know, I'm you know, a rock fan,
metal fan, So this one there is a little bit
more of a driving force I think in this one
posted some of the other songs that are out there,
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like Poncho God Girl, I think still has like that
edgy VI but we are definitely trying to push more.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Towards a.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Grunge, but a progressive type of grunge that's not so muddle,
more upbeat that still has those pop punk I wouldn't
say pop punk, but like emo punk elements in there.
But yeah, it was cool coming in and working on
these On that song, they're actually when they presented it
to me, they had it pretty much written out and
the song is called Euphoria, so it's very upbeat. Where
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the lyrics are you know, about losing euphoria. So I
told Zarah's like Hey, this is really good the progression,
but there needs to be a little breaking there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
There needs to.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Be like a feeling of I actually do lose this
upbeating as I lose this feeling of euphoria because the
rest of the song is very driving and upbeat.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So when we have that break, no, it comes in
with the drums and it's on the tongs.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I was like, we need to have this sound where
it's like very muddled and it comes in and builds up.
You know, maybe it's a little bit aggressive, maybe it's
a little bit I'm not sure that ainsinness where it's going.
But then it comes back into that chorus and it
all comes back to beat, positive vibe. So there was
different elements that I brought in to the band. There's
different elements that Nick brought into the band, and there's
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different elements that Exavier had already established being in Pennython,
but he definitely wants to kind of grow that sound
and expand that and explore different avenues of arrangements and
instruments and.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Things like that.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's subject losing euphoria. That's very interesting to me because
we all lose euphoria. I call it post production blues,
but we got to fight our way back. The very
fact that you guys are working together as a team
that inspires the hell out of me.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, it's interesting because there's a lot of times where
whether you're dealing with booking, or dealing with writing, or
dealing with just now we're trying to work on, you know,
doing a little small weekend runs, and even that process
can be very, very time consuming or very not rewarding
at times.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So there are times you kind.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Of lose the win in your sales, or you lose
the the driving force of man, we can do this.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But you know, it happens with everything. You come either.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Complacent or you know, you become you know, you have
di stain towards what you do, and you know if
you're not if you're not going to be willing to
push through some of those things, then you're not really
going to reach that plateau I want to say plateau,
but that peak.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Of like wow, like you know, all that hard to work.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
All that adversity for this moment really pays off. So
there's a lot of that and that song and some
other elements layered in there. But yeah, it's a process
for everyone. But you know, if you stick it out
and you ride through some of those tough times of
the ward, it's definitely worth it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So please do not move. There's more with Justin Galler
from Penny Fountain coming up next the name of the
song euphoor You from Penny Fountain. We're back with Justin.
So do you live a Google calendar lifestyle? Meaning that
because you guys are doing everything? I mean, if I
if I've got an hour and fifteen minutes on my
Google that's open that we're going we're gonna go work
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out or we're gonna do something. I mean, everything has
got to be one, two, three four. Do you live
the same lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I did? Most part? I do have a very busy
weekly schedule.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I teach and then I manage teachers out of use
the school, so working with contracts things like that. Yeah,
so it's really fine, it's really fun. Really, music is
definitely the thing for me. But with with that, like
we have a time treat that we share and then
we try to make sure all the shows, interviews, things like.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That are labeled in there. But I definitely have a
day where like I'm not to.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Be bothered, like whether it's a Friday night, Saturday night
I'm not doing a show, or some day if I'm
getting back from the show, there's definitely a time where
like I'm shutting off all calendars, I'm shutting off all reminders,
and I'm not to be bothered. But during the week
there's definitely like you know those times where all right,
I got to make sure I do this. They got
to meet with this person, I got to teach these
four lessons. I gotta go to practice. So having everything
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written now, it definitely helps remind me how to stay
staying in time with the most of it.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That video is amazing because what's one of the hottest
subjects these days. Aliens? Boy, those aliens up in space
and you guys go all out green with this star.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh yeah, that's one of the common things that I
think before we even the dam me Xavier and Nick,
we really gravitate towards we just like that stringe science
that what if what happened?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
What could be? Like said, they're big horror fans.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I think Silent Hill is one of their favorite games
that they mentioned, and just myself, like Binkwentny two is
one of the favorite bands and they have a big
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Tom DeLong, he's really up there with that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
But it's really cool and it does add kind of
a nice, uh, storytelling element to our music.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
We're not always talking.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
About girl problems or relationship problems or money problems or
I'm in a band, I'm gonna make a problem, like
you know, people want something that's not you know, always
so heavy or like you know, tie it to like, oh,
remind me about real life. But with the alien stuff,
it's really nice because we can kind of layer these
these storytelling elements to also make people think about you know,
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different different emotions or different thought process but not really
tie it to everyday problems.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So they kind of they kind of have.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
A way to associate or break away from your life
but still process those emotions and process those feelings while
listening to something that is a little bit more refreshing.
But yeah, over that, aliens is always a fun thing.
I listened to a podcast called The seriousy Universe and
they're always talking about something along those lines, and then
they do really good research and it's it's interesting, it's fun,
it's fun to talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So yeah, real guy to real guy up there in
outer space right now is this this object that some
people are saying is not a comet, but actually it
is a satellite from a different universe. Do you believe that?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Oh? Man, you know what, I who knows it could be?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
The universe is so far out there.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I mean, we launched Tesla into space, so who's to
say some other far off planet somewhere you didn't launch
their own version of something in the city. So but
you know, there's like those like the Black Knight conspiracy.
You have like the Hollow Moon conspiracy, where you think
the moon is artificial, or you know, something that's not
necessarily quite what it seems to be. So it's always
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fun thing about like the possibilities of what it because
if I may get into a little little off topic,
but Dugon trial, they talked about how they knew a
group of people of society that was from the third
Star and Serious and at the time we only knew
of one Star and the Serious line of Star Serious A.
So they talked about a group of people that came
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from Serious c and we didn't Stuggle until much of later.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So there's just you know, there's stuff. There's stuff out
there if you if you pay attention.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
One of the things that I've always loved about Penny
Fountain is the fact that I've never been really that
guy that listens to the lyrics, but I listened to yours,
and I'm trying to figure out, how is it that
I can hear those lyrics, I can hear those stories?
Is it because you're making it so damn relatable?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I mean, most likely at the end of the day,
that's what we want to do.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
We don't only make I mean, we want to make
songs that we like and we enjoy and we want
to play. But also, you know, being in a world
where we're connected on the internet or like everyone is
always reachable, at some point, I think we do feel
a lot more connected and relatable and a lot more
of the subject matter we've put out there, like right
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now the jet to Holiday thing that's turning on TikTok.
Every single person can think of a video or think
of that that sound by it and relate.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
To it in some way.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So I think we are in a more relatable, uh
point of existence because we're so connected. But also that
makes the music a lot more reachable, attainable, makes it
worth listening to again and again. We do try to
make sure that if we are saying something, it is
something that not only that we think and believe in,
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but something that you know, other people will you know,
kind of receive as a positive message or maybe.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
They'll they'll be like, you know what, I've felt that before.
I get that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So it's a little bit of a give and take
and it's up for interpretation. Sometimes we'll put something out
there and we'll meet it one way and some person
may take it another way, and that if that's what
you get from it, that's what you get from it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, the cover art, I would love to see an
LED version of this in your merch department.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, we actually have these little like kind of like
a small key chain, little little uh square plastic things
and they have the Euphoria logo on.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It looks really sick, but.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, there's definitely where we are in the process of
refreshing our merch and we are all looking for new ideas.
But yeah, full stuff like that or like Attack of
the Ducks when they did that EP. We have a
little duck mats that we put Harmnquan and it's a
little mad Scott. So yeah, any little trink it's the
make our mergency pop definitely for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Where can people go to find it and where can
people go to find out where you guys are performing at.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So Instagram, we're mostly active on their Facebook. We post
a lot of our If we're doing any sort of
festival or we're in some sort of like competition, we'd
post on there.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
TikTok.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We try to post most of our reels, you know,
what we're doing as far as like making music right now.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Our next thing.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We're doing some shows up in Jacksonville, Deerfield, and Tampa
couming up in September. But Penny Fountain at Instagram, Penny
Fallon on Facebook, Penny Fountain on TikTok, all those fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
If you want to reach us, email us.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Whichever Jesse you got to come back to this show
anytime in the future. You know, the door is always
going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Aaron, thanks man. I'll try to get the other guys
in here too.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We were, you know, really living that you know, adult
lifestyle where we're trying to work and make.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The music at the same time.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But yeah, anytime we're coming up with something new or
we can all reschedule for for all three of us, Yeah, anytime.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, thanks here and you too man take care.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Thank you,