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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
What's up man?
Speaker 3 (00:01):
Hey, what's going on with you? Just chilling?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Uh, get a little coffee and uh starting the day.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
A little coffee. You don't seem to be the little
coffee kind of guy. How big is that cup?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Really?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Like a half gallon?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Were you guys out on the road this weekend? Yeah, yeah,
we were.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We we went over to Boon on Thursday and then
Raleigh on Friday, and then we played a show and
Charlotte on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
How are people reacting to the new music?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I love it?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, the the I think we took a little bit
of a risk and diversion from like previous release strategies,
and we did.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We did the weight on Me song. Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
They just came out on Friday, and that seems to
be I think predictably that was like.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The one that's caught on the most.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And then Small Talk definitely has its audience that people are,
you know, gravitating towards now.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
They did this project with a different sense of direction.
You were explaining that to me one time, and it
seemed to be really really a great idea to take
that step.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, no, it was. We wanted to kinda.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We just wanted to try something that was a little
different as far as like the mood and like timing
of of the songs, and so yeah, the small Talk
is uh is the one for us that just kind
of delivers a different message, a little more somber, but
has a really nice payoff at the end, really nice build,
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and just a different song altogether that we've done.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think it.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I think it's a little bit more of a mature
song than we've done before too.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So are you are you putting your your sights on
maybe adult top forty radio or even adult contemporary.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Radio maybe, I mean, if if we, I think so, Yeah,
I think that's definitely an option for us. You know,
we just we make music and we keep refining and
finding ways to kind of push ourselves and if that's
the direction of heads and you know, so be it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But yeah, we were definitely leaning towards that.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I love these lyrics. Take Me to give Me a Picture.
I mean it's kind an alternative edge, kind of a
pop vibration.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, wait on Me is definitely more of a traditional
pop song.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
H We actually kind of we drew a lot of
inspiration from like a classic rock like a classic rock sound.
So if you listen to it, like.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
At the end, it's kind of got a there's a
few like especially on the solo on the end. We
had a kind of a callback to like the classic
rock solos of like the seventies, but we also wanted
to do like our take on it. And I think
it's got a very upbeat like positive uh.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Summer, you know, spring feel yep.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And then in contrast, like I said earlier, like small
Talk is, it's got a much weightier tone to it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So the one of the one of the things that
I love about the music is that there's you can
tell that you're pulling from from for genres of music
because in one of the songs, you actually if to me,
it's got a John Lennon esque about it. It's it's
got that vibration, the way that the background sound brings
up those vocals, and I in listening to it, I'm going,
oh my god, that's got that I feel some John
Lennon happening here.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah. Oh man, I wish my lead singer is on here.
He would uh, he would really appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But yeah, no, we yeah, we you know, we.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Take our time kind of crafting and making sure that
the that the background music is supporting of you know
or not the background music, but the instrumentation is supporting
of the of the vocals, right, and just making sure
that soundscape is as best as it can be for
our singer to to lay down his take and then
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really tie it all together at the end.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So, now, what what is your process of bringing music
together inside the studio in the way of do you
do you take it out and play it live first
knowing what the audience is going to do, then take
it to the studio or do you do the studio first?
You do the studio first.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
In yeah, we did the studio first.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So we'll basically what we'll do is we have a
rough idea of like songs we want to you know,
work on and have a ninety copy of it, right,
and then we'll go into the studio down at Charleston
with a guy named Matt Sattel at Coast Records, and
really we'll try to find the energy of a song
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in that room. You know, we'll have like a rough
idea of what we want it to be, but really
like the soul and the energy comes in the crafting
that we do inside of the studio, and then once
that song has the big life and the field that
we want breathed into it and it's you know, it
becomes its own thing, then we'll take it out and
(04:53):
you know, we'll play it after we've recorded it and
finally gotten across the finish line there, so to.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Say, and then.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We'll start kind of teasing it before we release it.
But yeah, it's usually we'll always get that song done
in the studio first before we ever play it live.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
My God, you got into my head and heart when
you talked about getting you know, what is the vibration
inside that room? Because I'll never forget that. Before I
went into any room, I had to be in the
right mindset. I would walk the hallway, look at the pictures,
don't I don't care how many times I looked at
those pictures. I had to feel something from the entire building,
and then when I would go in there, I knew
that I was going to have to give it all away.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt every And it's interesting too because
each space, every space we play in, and every space
we've recorded and has its own energy, which can you
know indirectly or directly and maybe impact the final product.
And and we we've always found a really nice space
for ourselves down and the place that we record at
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just because the setup is welcoming and comfortable and it's
like the energy that we're looking for out of a
recording studio.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So, yeah, that's that's funny you bring that up.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, because I mean, in a way, you become a
part of its story, because you know, I mean, you
don't know what's going to be happening ten fifteen years
from now. Someone's going to say, oh, you know, def
Andrews recorded here. You've got to be kidding me. What.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I hope so that would be that'd be a
cool story to tell. But you're right, you're so right
on that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And and Matt reached out to us today, and you know,
he's he's putting together kind of a page of artists
that have recorded there recently, and you know, you know
he was, you know, he put us on that list,
and so, you know, small potatoes compared to other bands
at the moment. But we're you know, we're we're happy
to be a part of that story in any way possible.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Hey, please don't move. Coming up next, we've got more
with Mike from Deaf Andrews. Hey, thanks for coming back
to my conversation with Mike Cherard from Deaf Andrews. Now,
when you're songwriting and the reason why I bring this
up is because as a podcaster, I don't ever think
about local as a songwriter. Do you guys put your
focus on the globe or do you have to or
do you try to stay you know, stay try to
the region.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So are you talking about like like literally like geographically or.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, because you know, I mean, it's it's so many bands,
you know, I mean, there used to be a time
in music history when the New York bands were different
from the Chicago bands, from the from the Pacific Northwest bands,
and it's just and it's like are we are we
going back to that? Or is it that you know what,
you know, what I wanted to fit into any market?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, So I'll be honest with you, We've never written
with like a like a region in mind. I think
it's very I think what we try to do is
when we're writing, is what we'll just write songs that
are like meaningful to ourselves first, and then I think
by virtue of like the style of music that we
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like to play and that like comes out of our hands.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It then works into a.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Little bit more of a a pop sensibility. But yeah,
you know, there is something about and I wouldn't mind
exploring that though, where it's like, hey, this is a
region of the of the world that I live in,
and like, let me write about it. So far, myself
and Nick and a couple of other guys we draw
on like personal experience, but that experience is a shared
(08:09):
experience because you know, obviously everybody goes through something similar,
if not the same thing, you know, throughout the course
of their life. And I think in that way people
can connect. But like, you know, there's obviously the Avid Brothers,
who you know, kind of kind of a mix there
that they're from, but some of them have North Carolina roots, right,
(08:30):
maybe all of the new but and they have a
lot of songs that pay homage to that, so you know,
and that's something I respect and I think would be
it would be an interesting song and maybe lyricism choice
for us to dive into.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, because the band I was thinking about was like
Ben Folds five. I mean they didn't sound like a
Southern band. I mean they sounded so universal and that's
what I get from your guys to sound as well.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, we'll take it. I mean, no, I appreciate it.
And uh yeah Ben Folds five, what a good call out.
That's I haven't uh, I haven't heard that name in
a while. But they're they're such a good band. I
think they're like mid nineties or something like that. But yeah,
I appreciate the I appreciate the comparison there.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So now, where are people going for music these days?
I mean, sam Ash is gone and a lot of
the you know, unless you're going on the web to
do something from you know, far away. But if you
can't put your hands on those musical instruments, why are
you buying it?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, it's a great question. Well, thankfully guitar centers still around.
I I just had this conversation about sam Ash the
other day. I can't believe it's gone, which is which
is crazy and of an era. But for I think
I think live music is starting to as far as
you know, where people go to go for music, right,
(09:45):
I think the Internet is here for forever, right, that's
not going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So that's gonna be a major focal point for for
what I've seen.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
For for I guess listening like when you say go
to I think obviously Spotify's and and uh, you know, iHeartRadio.
You talk about Apple Music, all these streaming platforms, like
when you're going to listen, I think is are the
main areas. And then also there's I think short form
content on like YouTube, where you're putting up live music
(10:19):
sessions where hey, maybe I can't catch that show in person,
but I'm able to see and interact with it in
a in a virtual sense on a live performance on
like a YouTube or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I think it's the other area too.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
How has the new album changed your swag? Are you
guys getting some new stuff?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We are, we are, we are, we are.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
We're working on that right now.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just we got a design finalized for for a shirt.
And you know, there's a we like, we like tying
in pieces of our songs into the merchandise that we sell.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
So we're gonna be working on some one.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
With like a cassette tape on it because there's a
little call out to that during one of our songs
at the end. And then also we're experimenting with different
fabrics too, So.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, stuff that's got a.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Mineral wash to it, and you know, different fabrics of
the clothing to make it just the more appealing, right
just not you're playing white tea, like something a little
more in depth and just like that you would want
to wear more often. So so yeah, we got some
new schwak coming for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
See that's the kind of stuff that people from out
in California or over in the UK would purchase and
not even get to see you guys live. But they'll
get that merchandise though, because it looks good.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
If someone in the UK starts wearing our merchandise, that
wouldn't make my bad maybe year.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So where can people go to find out more about
the band?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, so we have a website, Deathfangers dot com. They
can go to our Instagram page. Instagram is huge right now,
so if they go to you know, just at Deaf Andrews,
they can see us on there. We also have a
TikTok at that and again I think that was Deaf
Andrews's band actually, and then obviously like any major streaming
service that we have, Spotify, Apple Music, all that stuff,
(12:08):
we will be on there, you know, and all all
of our latest music that we've released and recorded will
be on all of those websites for everyone industry.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And I think that you and I talked about this
before that I think that fans need to if they've
got Spotified lists, they need to include your songs on
those Spotified lists so that you know, that can be
spread apart because other people can tap into it. Then
it becomes a part of their list and somebody else's list. Yes,
so they definitely have got to put it on their
Spotify list.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, no, absolutely when people like and share the song too,
like that. The almighty algorithm out there like does its
thing when you when you start putting it to a
playlist and doing likes and sharing, so any you know,
all that stuff helps out and just gets the music
spread out and and share it to a different audience.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So well, you got to come back to this show
anytime in the future. You know that door is always
going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Awesome, Thanks Sarah, It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Would be brilliant today, right, Bud, Yeah, you too.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Take care