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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I first arrived inside this forest in November of nineteen
ninety two, and right away I had to know what
is the history of this lay of land, what happened
here and how did it happen? What was the foresight
of what was about to take place? The arrival of humans?
Four stories on ero dot net A R r oe
dot Net. Enjoy the exploration. Hey, welcome back to the conversation.
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Let's do some pod crashing. Episode number four twenty is
with singer, songwriter and now podcaster Norah Jones. Good morning, Nora,
how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Absolutely fantastic. This is such an amazing, brilliant idea. I
grew up in the days of Casey Kasem and Dick Clark,
and that's where I got the stories of music. And
then you tune into Norah Jones is playing along and
it's like, oh my god, you have a way of
getting the story and that is so important to music
to me.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh yeah, I mean it's really all about the song,
right and just conveying the song in the most honest,
emotional way.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And that's what I'm trying to do in the podcast
is just.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Connect with other musicians and play a song, plays songs
together in a way that it feels meaningful and fun
for us.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You know, well, it comes across that you're so interested
in so many different genres. It's almost like you're still
the student, and it's like, can we just have a
conversation and just talk?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, it's so fun.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And I was really nervous about the you know, quote
unquote interview part of this show when we started thinking
about doing it, because that's not really what I want
to do.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I want to play music with people.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
But then the end, the talking part has been really
fun and rewarding and not so scary because it's just
really it's just like a beautiful conversation with someone who
I respect, and people open up more than I ever
thought they would, and it's it's been really great.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I was going to ask you about that, how long
does it take you to know inside your heart that
it's like, oh my god, the door is open. Step
in with that question that you didn't know about.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You know, I don't think that way because I'm not
a journalist and I'm not trying to do any like
fancy questions.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
In a way when I don't have to ask all
my questions.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm happier because that means the conversation's gone in a
way that it feels really natural, you know. But for me,
I think that the sort of key pen points in
the episodes are the songs and playing the songs together
that we have chosen to play and because it's really
special to see what happens, there's no rehearsal.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We just kind of go for it.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And sometimes we'll redo it and if we need a
second take, we can do that, but usually it's pretty
off the cuff and really special.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So what is it like to sit down with somebody
like Sam Smith in the way of knowing that he's
already got this beautiful heart and then to hear his
stories that go with the music. I mean they're combined together.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean Sam Smith is one of you know, these
special cases where I've I had never met them before,
and we never crossed paths, so this is a first
time meeting in the moment, and they were so open
with me and so kind, and I knew that they
had something special before we got in the room, because
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of course that I'm a fan and I had done
my research, but I had no idea how how beautiful
it would be. You know, it was really special and
I felt like I made a friend and I felt
like I had a really special that that was a
special hour for me, you know, and getting to play
the songs together was really beautiful, and it was just
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it's so nice to meet people this way. It's weird.
It's weirdly been. I have a lot of new friends
now and it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Isn't it odd how fast that hour goes by. It's like,
you know, the show prep time and everything that goes
in to it beforehand, and then all of a sudden,
in the blink of an eye, the conversation is over.
It's like what happened here.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Kind of And when I'm in it, it doesn't feel stored.
It feels really I feel really present, and I feel
like my guest is always very present.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I mean, it's a.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Very intimate thing and nobody's on their phones.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's like it's a really nice thing to share. I
feel like it stretches the time in a little way.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well both of you, that you share music from the heart.
It's very vibrant, and that's what people tap into, is
that amazing way of story sharing. And then for you
to be in there with Sam. It's like there are
two of the biggest story sharers right there in the room.
I would have been listening to your heartbeats just to
see what they were doing.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, that's the funny thing is I'm always a little
bit nervous before, especially if i'm you know, accompanying and
the person is only singing, or the guest doesn't have
an instrument to play, and I have to get all
the word's right and the lyrics right too if I'm
singing harmonies, and it's a lot to focus on.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
But in the moment, when we're.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Playing music or talking, it feels comfortable and it becomes
an easy thing, and I think that's sort of the
beauty of it, and hopefully that comes through. But yeah,
I do get nervous and excited, and then in the
moment it just feels like the perfect thing.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Please do not move. There's more with Norah Jones coming
up next. The name of our podcast, Norah Jones is
playing along. We are back with Norah Jones. When you
talk about, you know, sharing those stories and enjoying it,
so then I wonder, is that how music actually started
in the way of they started sharing stories. Somehow, some
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way we created a melody and all of a sudden
it went from town to town to town and village
to village. Because I mean, you're taking us back to
the roots of the way that story sharing started.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, I guess so I didn't think of it like that,
but yeah, I mean, this world is so crazy right now,
and technology is crazy, and AI is crazy, and it's
all going berserk, and this is just two people in
a room, human and human song to song. You know,
we're just doing the old school thing. There's really nothing
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new about it, but yeah, it feels special.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So when you sat down with Sarah McLaughlin, because the
first time that I did, it was like she had
no shoes on. She was wearing very very comfortable jeans
and she crossed her legs in the conversation. I'm going,
oh my god, this is like sitting down with someone
in your family. Please tell me that you enjoyed the
same experience where it's like we're just friends. How you
doing that? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah? She's so easy And I also.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I really it was like my biggest fangirl moment during
this podcast, I think because her amusing meant so much
to me at such an important time in my life
when I was going to college for the first time,
when I was eighteen, So I was such a dork
on that episode. I love every second of it. She's
just the coolest.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So, but does it change you now as a song
share because I mean now that you're hearing everybody else's
stories and you're kind of comparing notes when you go
into the studio, does it change your vibration?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I think anything you touch that inspires you changes everything
you touch, So yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know if I could put it into.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Words, but I think it's all going into the bank,
you know, and then the changing the language in your
head and rewiring everything. So I think that's just how
inspiration works.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Does the inner child inside of you, the artist child,
when when you speak with somebody like Jesse and and
want Jesse Harris and sit there and hear the stories,
does that make you go, oh my god, this I'm
on the right path, but I'm learning new things.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah. I mean, Jesse's an old friend.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Jesse wrote Don't Know Why, which was my first sort
of breakout song.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And we've been friends.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I was eighteen, so it was really special to connect
with him in this way and also kind of funny,
like you don't know how you're going to be with
someone you know so well in an interview setting, but
in the end even that is fun, you know. I
did the podcast with sash adopts In, one of my
longtime collaborators and friends, and same thing. I actually learned
about Steph about her that I didn't know after knowing
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her so well.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So like, it's pretty fun when you know the person,
and it's so fun when you don't know the person.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Wow, Nora, you got to come back to this show
anytime in the future. The door is always going to
be open for you.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Okay, thanks so much. Have a great day.