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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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this clickbait stuff and get on with the journey. Yes, sir,
God for you to be on that set, though, what
is it? What do you see that we don't get
to see? But dang it anyway, I would love to
be on that set just so I can watch as
you guys evolve into those characters.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I've been saying this all day this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's just the scale of the show. The scale of
the show is just huge. There's so many people involved,
so many departments. Sean Leevey has said it at the
premiere that they had hired eight thousand actors on this show.
And you go, yeah, so plus you know Cruise. You know,
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we shot in Atlanta, and we shot in New Mexico.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So there's a lot of people that you know, put
in a lot of hard work.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And again, I just really believe that every department should
be submitted, let alone nominated for an Emmy come next
to Emmy. So yeah, I'm singing their praises and I'm
just lucky to be involved.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I just love the idea that they didn't Russia. That's
the thing about it, because we all want want want,
want want, and this time around they were going, ah,
we'll get it to you when it's time.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yep, very meticulous about that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Plus, remember we had like the writer's strike and then
the actors strikes, and they were building sets. They were
building all these incredible places and things. And when you
get on set it just for the actor. It just
lends itself a bit of realism where you don't have
to start, you know, pretending this. Then the third you
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can just be just be in the moment. And that's
really cool, uh, to experience. It's just being in a
place where you don't have to like reach for something
and try to find this.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know, what's my motivation was this that no, you're
right there.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You're thrust right into this situation because people have put
card work and the building, everything that you're standing on,
So you know, kudos to them.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
See I'm so glad that you talk about the teamwork.
And the reason why is because there's a film school
here in Charlotte where everybody gets to see whatever platform
they want to be on. And when you speak highly
of the entire team like that, I just want to
take that right directly to these students and say, doesn't
matter what you want to do, when what you're trying,
you can make it happen when you jump on the
right team.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's what it is. And you know, really
get good people around you. And you know that's the
whole thing of them building. There forducing partners and the
writing you know, the writing staff. Every department was just
so well nailed down and so many nice people. And
I was just saying earlier there was not one knucklehead actor.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Everybody came to work, everybody had fun.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You know, we all got along swimmingly, and you just
want to do your best for the folks that you're
working with and working for.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And it's just I mean, if they can hand out
it mean's for catering.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The catering company was so I just had to bring
that up, so you know it was okay, it was
for lunch.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Oh man, yeah, great, cool? You know it was just
so it's tasty. That's what I need to say.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I've been on those sets, man, I know what that
food can be like and what it can't be like.
And the fact that you've been spoiled. I'm jealous.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh you would you would lose your or mine.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
They knocked it out the box every day, every day,
so I missed that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Do you see Stranger Things as being a once in
a lifetime moment because one of the things that I
have fallen so deeply in love with with this digital
age is that I can go back and watch Jack
Binnie in the morning and then do some Johnny Carson
at night. I really think that Stranger Things is going
to be with me fifty years from now. And the
thing about it is it doesn't feel like that it's
set in a certain time period. It can play out
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at any decade.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, you're right. It's one of those things that no
matter you know, twenty five thirty five.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Years into the future, it will be a classic. I
know that for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know, when the aliens do come and they discover
us and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They're like, Yo, that was a great show. Yeah yeah,
that's really cool, really cool show. You guys gotta watch
this show. Wow, okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah. But don't you think though that Hollywood itself, as
well as all these other binge watching producers and things,
have really changed their style because of the success of
Stranger Things, Because you guys did things on this over
the past five seasons that I had never seen before,
and now I'm seeing it pop up in other things.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, you know, Hollywood has this thing. There's
only four living rooms in Hollywood, so you know, everybody's
sharing the same ideas and doing the same thing, and
you know, inventing new cameras and new ways to shoot
this and shoot that. And again, our filmmakers really put
a lot into the scope and the scale of this show.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's just unbelievable. And I was just really looking forward
to hearing folks what they think about it, how they feel.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
About it emotionally, how it's going to affect them, how
they're going to talk about this. No one Safe, and
we'll see that from episode one oh five. Uh, no one,
no one. No one is safe.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And everybody has their own personal struggles outside of the group,
and I'm really looking forward to seeing how you know,
they are coming together to take on Vigna and they're
on the offense.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
They're not playing defense anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I can say that they're on the offense, so you
know they're looking to kick them, you know what. Uh,
and and and so am I. So I'm really looking
forward to that. And of the characters, like Dustin's character,
the Dustin character, I there's something that happens to him
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in episode one, which I'm looking forward to seeing his arc.
And I tried my best and I did do a
good job by not reading every whole script, because I
am a fan of the show. Yes, and I want
to be surprised too, because as a filmmaker, as an actor,
you and you're reading something, You're wondering, Okay, how they're
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going to shoot that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh, that's going to look beautiful. Oh my god, that's
gonna be That's crazy. Now.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I just want to sit down with my popcorn too
and go wow, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Wow, whoa that happened. That's where I want to be.
That's where I want to be.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
One of the greatest diamonds in the rough. When it
comes to Stranger things is that I've never heard anybody
say I grew up with these actors. What's happening is
we grew with you. We grew with you on this
whole entire five is you know season journey?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, you know my thing. One night I called myself
just in amazement.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That how Finn and Noah and these guys were treating
the younger actors that were coming on, and it was
just kind of like full circle and I.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Was just like, wow, man, that's really cool. That is
so cool to take these kids under their wings and
to show them and to build them up and to
help them on their way. I don't necessarily know if
they're going to be in the spinoff or this, that
and the third, but I got a good feeling about
it and just a bunch of great kids, and it
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was just so good to work with them. And I'm
gonna watch I'm gonna enjoy watching their career grow, especially Jake.
I think he has a really good career in front
of him. And I remember talking to him one day
on to set him and his mom, and I'm like,
are you ready because we have this, we have this exchange,
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we have this exchange, and I'm looking at him and
I'm like, oh, okay, Jake wants to play coo, let's go.
And it's really cool because you can treat these young
performers as adults in that particular moment and they're they're real,
they're real actors. They're not kids because they will they
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will wipe you off the app They are really, really,
really really good. So carbon carben Cuba, our casting director,
who's an A list casting director, she really knew what
she was doing when she when she presented these actors
are every actor to Matt and Ross. So it's a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful,
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wonderful experience. And my hat's off to them, and you know,
I can't thank them enough for giving me the opportunity
to breathe life into Jack Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, the promotion on this, and I love the way
that they're doing the marketing on this, is they say
that everybody has to be in the same place for
this thing to happen. And the thing is that that
told me subliminally, my entire Stranger Things family is going
to be in one place. It's not going to be
in several different stories, but rather in one place, and
that excites me as a viewer.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, we're on top of each other and in a sense,
we're you know, we're all there. We're all trying to
figure this whole thing out.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
We're blame you know, twenty thing is here, there and everywhere,
and you know everybody's out for I wouldn't say themselves,
but the guys, the kids are are you know, we
know what they're doing as far as the military is concerned.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
And you know my thing with Doctor K, which is
which is? Which is Linda?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And then we have Alex who uh Alex Bowman, and
we have U and Manny and there's a couple of
other actors.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Uh. You know, there's this thing that we're trying to
trying to uh, we're trying to solve this this this puzzle.
Is it eleven? Is it? This? Isn't that? But now
now we see that, we we see what the upside
down world is. We can see this whole thing and
I can't say too much about it, but the military
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has access to a lot of stuff and so it's
you know a lot of bumping heads with Doctor K
and myself and and the wolf pack. Uh, we had
a lot of fun. It's just it's just really cool.
Linda and I hit it off so well because we
have a lot of friends. We have a lot of
friends in common, and actually Eddie Furlong lives across the
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street from me. Wow, so you know, it was kind
of Hey man, I'm working with Linda ohn tell Us today,
all right, yeah, you know, as he's walking his dog.
How you been, brother, Yeah? So yeah, Like I said,
there's only four living rooms in Hollywood, so wow, really cool.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Wow, You've got to come back to this show anytime
in the future, sir. The door is always going to
be open for you.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
The d Thank you so much. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Wait a minute, yes, sir, Era, hey Aero, Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You have him for a double?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh my god, where have you been, Sherman. It's been
a couple of minutes since I've last seen you. What's
going on? Whoa. Let's take a break first, and then
we're going to come back and find out what Sherman
has been doing in the past couple of minutes. We'll
be right back. Stranger Things season number five. We are
back with actor Sherman Augustus. Hey Aero, yes, sir, you
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have him for a double. Oh my god, where have
you been Sherman. It's been a couple of minutes since
I've last seen you. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Wow? You know, I built the new Chrysler.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And do you actually learn something from the show that
you can incorporate into your personal lives because I do
look at it as being a relate show.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
As an actor, you know, we try to have this stillness,
you know, in our personal lives, and Jack has taught
me a lot of stillness and a lot of just
don't worry about it, stay on track, because the man
has as and as an actor, we always have this
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mission of at least I do, of just making sure
I'm on time, making sure I know what I'm what
I'm bringing to the table, making sure I know my lines,
making sure I'm hitting my marks, and all that kind
of stuff, which is technical, but I like to wipe
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that out the way and just be as organic as
possible to have these real moments. And Wow, I think
I've learned a lot of patients because again, going into
season four, we had the pandemic, so I had to
be patient about that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So I just kept working on the behavior that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I was going to bring into it, and knowing that
this guy was going to be hated and put on
the outside, So welcome that whole thing that happened with
the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Then we had the strike. So now I get to
rewire a few things and start thinking about just a
new kind of dynamic, which is Sullivan and doctor k
And actually, I'm not here to hurt the population of Hawkins.
I'm not here to hurt eleven. You know, eleven may
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be an asset. But what I have concerned about is
the fact that doctor Brennan and doctor Owens under their watch,
that Sylvias came in and all these things were happening,
and then you know, being ordered to go in and
squash this and bring this to an end by any
means necessary. So I got a chance to rework a
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lot of things.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And again I was talking about this earlier, having this
conversation with Frank Diremont, and we were talking about this
particular scene we were getting ready to shoot, and he say, yeah,
it's all those things that I was working on, but
this is his come to Jesus moment. Yes, And so
I was like, WHOA, okay, cool, And that lends lends
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itself to another dynamic, another piece of the behavior that
I was able to add that day for that character.
So yeah, patience and just being in the moment.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And I wish as a person as a human being,
that I can take that every day into my everyday life.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
See patient, it's moments like it's moments like that though
that that when people say you're not listening to me,
I'm going, I don't think you understand where I am
as an actor. You got to understand that I'm going
inward to envision, to embrace to and then to expand
and and if you're talking, it's it's not it's not
it's not allowing me to become that character in what
they're asking.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
For exactly exactly. And this is one of the reasons
why getting this job. I had Jack Sullivan evaluate me
a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And you know, even before I got on the plane
to go to Georgia or to go to New Mexico,
it was these these these meetings and I would let
Jack read me, and we would go through this thing.
And once we get to this point and I understand
the behavior, then Jack will say, Okay, then on that
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line of X y Z Scooby Dooby.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Do that's the feeling. So that's the feeling. That's what
you want. It's just about the feeling. And I don't
need to be in character all day or whatever. I
can go in and out of what I need to do,
which is a lot more fun. Again, because no take
is going to be the same. I would always I
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would joke with the brothers and say no, yeah, no
more than three takes and all we'll see. We will see, right,
and guess what three takes them We're out on a
new so and each take is different. So you're just
having trying to have fun with with everything and keeping
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everything loosey goosey. But again, behavior behavior, behavior, behavior, that's
what it's all about. That's what it's all.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't have to go through this other trick of
whatever the case may be, you know, and watching other actors.
I remember watching James Gndelfeini build up before Seene. It
was James, myself and Julia Roberts, and you know, I
saw James working up in the scene.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And I'm like, wow, I'm not the only one that
does that. That's cool.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, well I call that transitioning. And and you see
people don't understand that sometimes and go because you're not
an actor, you don't get it that that you have
got to have that transition time in order to evolve
into what you're about to become exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's just just, you know, as part of another technique.
You know, it's just being, just being, just being and
just be there, be there in that and just try
to have a real moment to make everybody's day a
lot better.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So then what is it like to become Sherman again?
Because I mean, that's when I have to grab my
journals and start defragging and breaking things down so I
can become real again.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It's cool, you know, it's easy if it's something that,
if it's something emotional or whatever the case, maybe it's
really cool.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Something just happened to me recently shooting lanterns. They had
built a craftsman home from nineteen twenty nineteen twenty one,
and it's just the kind of house I grew up
in here in Los Angeles. And one day on set
I was feeling like, why do I feel this way
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every time I come on this set?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah? I mean the wallpaper, the kitchen tile, just everything,
the dining room, the kitchen nook, everything was just like
the columns out the colors, everything, and I was like, oh,
this is home, dude, and we were shooting this scene
and then I just for some reason just welled up
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and just had these tears in my eyes. And that's
when you go, dude, you don't really because everything that
you accumulate as an actor, your technique goes out the window.
It's just about it's just about being in that moment,
and you know, you ride with it. So when you
have those kind of moments, it's it's it's a revelation,
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but it's so revealing and it's it's it just lets
you know that you know all the hard work in
the training because this is a trade. Now. They don't
like us to call it the craft, but you know what,
if I went to a trade tech school and learn
how to do drywall or plumbing, then that's my trade.
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And so when you start paying for an acting class,
and like to tell young as, there's this. The minute
you start taking classes and you're paying for you're paying
to to to learn this, this, this this technique, you're
learning your trade. Ye.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So that's what it is. It is a trade, and
we all want to be good at our trade. I mean,
it's just one of those things. You know, master mechanic.
You know that's a trade.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
So that's the way I look at it. In mastering
that trade. I don't know how you keep a straight
face when Millie Bobby Brown comes in there, she's got
that British accent, all of a sudden, she's got the
American accent. I would lose it every time, because I mean,
I know you guys are friends on that set, and
then to go into an American accent because I can't
do a good British accent. Just teach me how to
do it so I can trade it exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
And it is funny because you get used to it
because you know, shooting bad Lands, we were in Dublin, Ireland,
and for a year year and a half for me,
and you know, you start picking up the accent and
and then British actors who are using an American accent.
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I remember catching Emily and all of Brady one time.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They would have certain there's an app that you can
go to and they would say certain words and you
would just listen to how you would say it in
an American accent, and they would have that down every time.
I'm like, wow, that's crazy, so I you know, my
British accent is kind of wacky.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I sound like a drunk boxer. What I can do?
And I can do an Irish acent very well. There,
I can do that very well. Yes, yes, I recall
when I got bad Lands and Susan Holmes, the production
coordinator had called me at like at five in the morning,
and I didn't know I was going to get that call. She said,
come monit Shor, this is Susan Holmes Ange Baalance. Can
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we get you on the planet there for a tarnity?
I'm like, what, Yeah, that's right. Can we get you
on the plane at Ford? Tryg to come over there
to Ireland to do it into the battle as I say, no,
maybe tomorrow, but I gotta be some phone calls. So yeah.
I admire the fact that they can just put on
these accents and then just be their normal results in
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between takes. It's just really cool, just really cool.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Well, congratulations on season five. Twenty minutes with you goes
by like in twenty seconds. My god, you've got to
go back, man, you got to come back.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
We'll do it again, We'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Excellent. Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Okay, sir, thank you and happy happy Thanksgiving.