October 31, 2025 • 19 mins
A young woman infiltrates a dangerous self-actualization community after her mother becomes entangled with its enigmatic leader.Here's the trailer:Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMADDlO0Utg
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
So I'm speaking your good praises about the state that
you live in.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's a great state except you. It's been raining here
for three days though, and it's cold. Oh yeah, you know,
it's funny. Jars of clay came into my head a
couple of yesterday when I saw the forecast for you guys.
Oh my goodness, Well okay, we'll go. You know, they
make a lot of jars made out of clay here
in Carolina. Here's a jar that you can't play up with.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
These two fun young ladies.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's Landry and Amy. You guys know about Charlotte, don't you.
Wasn't Homeland filmed here?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I did? That's what I was just going to say.
I did.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I did Homeland in Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh my god. I mean to this day people will
walk around this town and say, this is where they
did this, this is where they did that. In fact,
I wish they would take the journey when you guys
would go in, drop your vocal tracks down over there
at John Cosby's place, which is the ground crew.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yes, I did do some adr over there and my character,
Maggie her house.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
She had a big, beautiful house.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I forget what the neighborhood was called, but it was
where the big beautiful houses are and it was so lovely.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's just amazing how how this area has become so
fulfilled by by you know, filming, just even reality shows nowadays,
and it's like, what is going on here? This is
supposed to be DYBD Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well you know what goes into that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think the local crews were so incredible and incredibly
talented and great vibes. It just it made it easy.
And the Charlotte Airport you can get anywhere from there.
The infrastructure is there, the people are there. It really
makes a lot. And I think the tax.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Credits are pretty good. Yeah as well.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Really it makes sense. I've done other I've shot in Wilmington.
I've shot a few things in Charlotte also.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh my, it's a great state.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, let's talk about self Help, because this movie right here,
it gets inside your head. I mean, you walk into
it because you've seen the trailer, you've done this, you've
done that, But until you experience self help, my god,
you're not going to shake it. After the movie is over,
You're going to sit there and you're gonna look at
your own personal life. Did you guys feel it being
on the set.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Ooh, that's a good question. I definitely.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I don't think I felt it in a way of
getting into Landry's personal psyche.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I think that would probably freak me out.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
But I was definitely like doing a lot of character
prep with this character because I wanted to make sure
that if you're seeing it through the lens of her perspective,
to make sure you can like feel her pain and
her struggles and trauma and all the things that she's
gone through. So I can't say I was going home
at night and like sitting in the hotel and going
through all my problems and needing to go to therapy.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I definitely can't say that. But more from a character perspective.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, it's a movie that a lot of people can
tap into in the way that it scares you, but
at the same time, it makes you aware of everything
that's around you. And that's what I loved about it
is that it plays with your emotions all the way around.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I love that about the movie.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's not it's it's a horror movie, sure, but there's
so much psychology involved in it that and it's very
it's very grounded actually and very based in you know
that we've all seen these cult documentaries on Netflix, right,
that was kind of that's the way in. It's these
these kind of how do regular people find themselves in
these terrible situations? And that's kind of the way into
(03:25):
to self help. It's really grounded in reality.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, But I think it's the voice of Curtis Clark
because I was convinced. I was convinced I wanted to
be a part of this art because the way he spoke.
I mean, to be able to sit there and speak
the way that he did and explain things. I'm going,
I'm buying into this. Curtis, you got me, You got me.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
He's convincing for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What is he like in real life? Though? Because it
does he have that voice.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Jake Weber, Yeah, I mean kind.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Of kind of he does. He commands a power for sure.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
I don't think he like is that you know, he's
not giving speeches to the entire room, but he definitely commands,
like commands attention in a really powerful and impressive way.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
But I would say he's quieter in life than he
is in a.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Quiet charisma to him is charismatic in a way it
without really trying, it just kind of radiates off of
him totally.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, I mean it opens up with something that really
I mean, I think this is one of the reasons
why I said, okay, I would walk this way, is
he goes, I'm not the Messiah you are. I'm going,
Oh my god, I mean whoever were? Oh my god? Yeah,
you are in control. And it's like that was one
that set me off because even Stephen Ferdie from Elevation
Church would never say that to me.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But I mean, to be on the set and to
have this kind of energy moving around you know, each
and every one of you, even though it was a script,
it was all laid out, we are acting, But my god,
the words that were chosen and were written out seem
to be so real.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Exactly. That's my point. It's based in real, real situations.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
People who kind of fall prey to these kinds of
Charlatans who come across as really genuine, real people delivering
And that's the thing part. A lot of his message
really is helpful, a lot of the advice he's giving
is useful. But then there's that twist. There's that part
where that the ground gets a little unsteady under you
and you're not sure what's happening.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I also think the interesting part of this film is
a lot of those cult documentaries and a lot of
the stories we hear are a parent sort of saving
their innocent child who has gotten pulled into this thing.
But with our film, it's the child who's coming into
their own having to.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Pull out her mom.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Which that's kind of the reason why she's not taken seriously.
She's the young one, she's the one who's innocent and
doesn't really know better. But it's actually that she is
the voice of reason here and she needs to be trusted.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So it kind of flips that on its head in
a really interesting way.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, it only took you seconds to realize it was
a cult. I mean when you, I mean you were
not trying to hide it whatsoever. You named it what
it was, but yet you stayed.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
I think when you care about people so much, especially
when you're you know, in your late teens early twenties,
you we all have this realization in much much purer
ways of like our parents are just people.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
They're not superheroes. They're they're trying out life for the
first time, just like we are.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
So she wants to save her mom because she wants
to have a relationship with her mom.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
She's never felt close to her mom, so she's always
felt super.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Alone and independent and like she's had to raise herself,
and so I think sort of seeing her mom be
in such a vulnerable state, she wants to stay in
order to save her, which I think was what any
of us would do for our loved ones.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Andrew's character also has, you know, despite the fact that
this mother daughter relationship is is flawed and the mom,
you know, my character hasn't been the best. I think
Landry's character has a lot of love for her and
sees possibly that you know, I've been not just taken
in by kind of the cult angle, but also there's
a kind of a romance scam thing that might be
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happening as well. So I think the underneath it all
is just that familial care that a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know, this stuff happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's like ripped from the headlines where parents are you know,
moms giving away zillions of dollars or you know, meeting
someone online getting catfished and sending money to some random person.
So you know, there's that element to the plot line
as well that I think is really really brings true
and is very feels very current.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Please do not move. There's more with Amy and Landry
coming up next. The name of the new movie self Help.
It is a thriller. We're back with Amy and Landry. Well,
I had a lot of compassion I still do inside
my heart for your character. And the reason why is
because it's like, Okay, I've either met you before, you know,
(07:48):
in other words, a person that you're playing, or I
know people who are walking in that direction, and it's
like it becomes now a study tool.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, that's very generous because I think I do think.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, despite the fact, again she's not the best,
she hasn't been the best, but she's lonely and she's
she's suffered, and she's looking for connection, and she truly
thinks she has found something meaningful in her life, and
she wants to bring her daughter along and as a
part of that to kind of repair the relationship with
her daughter. So I think she's really coming from for
her a real genuine place of trying to you know,
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share this love and repair what they do have.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, what listeners and viewers need to understand is I
realize that the trailer does show the arcade and having
fun with the games and stuff like that, but this
movie is so much more than that. You've got to
get beyond those opening scenes and get into this storyline.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
That arcade, we're bringing that up.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
We were saying, well, being in that arcade, it felt
like a liminal space.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
If you've ever seen like those or like.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Those spaces you have dreams about, where it's just like
very eagerie to be in there.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Kind of like I almost started getting.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
A headache when we were filming in that arcade because
it was so eerie and yeah, it felt like a
horror That was one of the moments where I did
feel like a horror movie just being in there, crazy
place they filmed.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, if anybody knows of it's kind of a famous
place that we filmed that called Billy Bob's Wonderland really Barbersville,
West Virginia. It was like stepping back in time. It
was very, very strange, very big, very noisy, very all
the lights.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
In the sound. It was kind of an early Chucky Cheese.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, it hasn't been remodeled since. It feels like you're walking.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
I was born in two thousand, but it felt like
I was walking into the nineties for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Wow. Wow, here's something that made me sit up straight
and still to this moment gives me chills. When you
guys start speaking of the truth Ambassador, it's like, oh my.
In fact, I went on to chat GPT to find
out if this even exists. Is there such a thing
as a truth Ambassador? It's enough to scare the GBI's
at you.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I need to chat GPT that I didn't GBT didn't
exists when we shot this last year.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Oh my god, that's fascinating. Sorry, what was your question?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Basically, just say that the way that you guys plant
your lines, I mean, it's stuff that's it's so subtle
and so powerful that it's like, to me, it's like
the difference between asking questions and making a statement, you know,
what I mean, because I mean the way that you
guys put this into place, that you sit there and
you go, WHOA, what did I just hear? Oh my god,
thank god, I've got the power of rewind where I
can relive this again.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, that's a test to like Amy and Madison, every
single other cast member of this film. I had the
luxury of getting to honestly just play truth and play
things from the audience's perspective, but everybody else sort of
had a double meaning to everything that they were saying,
and on the paper it could have been played as
very one note. But they all did so much incredible
(10:42):
work to be able to create so much nuance there.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
We need to give credit to the Bloomquist brothers who
really wrote such a fascinating and multi layered script for
us to play with.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah, so smart.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
We're living in a new age of horror films, is
what we are. And to me, it's in the writing
and it's in the acting. It doesn't necessarily have to
be a Freddie or adjacent movie. Just give me the words,
give me something that's going to affect my mind.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, this feels like in the tradition of kind of
I mean Jordan peele Ski lot where there's plenty of scares,
but it's also very deep.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Radical autonomy. You see all these words that you guys
planted inside of me inside this movie. I mean, it's
stuff that just really forces you. I mean, take notes, people,
when you go see this movie, you've got to take
notes because it could be happening around you.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It's a great movie to see in the theaters with
other people. Bring your friends because there's that kind of
like group think thing that happens on screening that could
be fun to reflect on with your friends and to
experience with your friends.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, for sure, a day of study at the lake.
That's a game changer in this movie. He made a choice.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
He did it all.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, and it's just And where where was this lake?
Because I kept sitting there saying, I swear to God,
I've been to this lake. Why do I know this lake?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
West Virginia, random woods of West Virginia. I don't know
the actually exact lake. We filmed that Sometimes when we're filming,
we're just taken to a random place and we.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Just go with it. But somewhere close to Barbersville, West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Taking the time to build up Olivia's relationship. I mean
that that was a very long car ride that was
featured in the early part of the movie. I mean,
and I kept thinking, they're going someplace here, pay attention
to where they're going, and it's like, but I love
the way that you gave me enough time as a
viewer to digest it. It wasn't in the blink of
an eye. I'm already there.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, No, that's definitely true. They did a good job
not only writing but editing that. I think that there's
there's a lot of suspense in those sort of road
trip horror movies where you see either a couple or
some friends or whoever go out to that place in
the middle of the woods, and it sort of adds
some suspense there. So I love the way they did that.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now, Miss Amy, you and I share something in common,
and that is is that we want to have a
leadership for those that are behind us. It's almost like
we're turning around to the generations behind us to bring
them up. Can we talk about speak well, because I mean,
that is one thing that you are so involved in
and it's so inspiring for those that need to grow
forward stronger.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That is such a nice question. Thank you for asking
me about that. Yeah, this is Speak Well is.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
An after school program that teaches young people or help
helps young people find their voice through public speaking. It's
a leadership program that has been growing by leaps and
bounds over the last few years. And I was their
first mentor. So I go in and meet with the
young people and talk about my career and how public
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speaking and being comfortable in front of people and how
finding my voice has been so important in my life
and it's been really fulfilling.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We're really doing great.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
The kids have really gone onto bigger and better things,
so we're proud of them.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So were you guys freaked out by the clown masks?
Because I was. I mean, And the thing about it is, though,
is it plays throughout the entire movie, and so if
people like clown movies, oh you're going to get into
this one, but it's going to be in a different way.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I definitely was.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I had so many days with our stunt coordinator and like,
it's just the the clown was very much present for
so many days.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
That whole that whole barn.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Sequence, when I'm when I'm in the shed, that was
like a two day shoot, which was nuts and we
didn't have that long of a shoot, so that was
that was a lot of time spent with that clown
and sort of Yeah, just just seeing that mask every
day was nuts.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, and it's played in a way Amy that I
mean because I mean, I I well, I don't want
to spoil the movie, but I assumed that it was
the mom and and my assumption did not pay off.
And that's what I love about this movie is that
you can guess all day and you're not going to
figure out this movie. There's just no way you're going
to figure out the writing and the acting in this movie.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Wow, I am. I did not see that comment coming. Wow, Landry,
what do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
That's I didn't Yeah, I didn't either. I could see
that now that you say it, especially.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
With like I think there's times where the clowns drinking
and then there's times are you there's tints to your
alcohol stuff. Now that you're saying it, I'm connecting those dots.
But I didn't even that was not even something we
talked about.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's awk Again.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
This is why everybody needs to go and see this
movie in the theaters with their friends. This weekend, because
it's the ultimate movie where you're going to come out
and say, like, wait, I thought it was this, I
thought it was that, or you know series.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I love like an aftermovie debrief, like in the lobby
of an AFC, just like debriefing everyone's thoughts.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, it's the best way.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, that's exactly what they do at Regal Stonecrest when
they come out of a movie, especially this one. They're
going to be gathering out there in that huge lobby
and they're going to be talking about it. And I
wouldn't be shocked if they don't go over there by
the bar and sit down and even go into a
deeper conversation because you've got to digest this movie.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I agree. I agree, it's the best perfect combination.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's Halloween but plus thoughtful. You know, there's like the
deepest stuff, but then the scary stuff. It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's interesting you say Halloween because I sat there and
I was, while watching it or experiencing it, I went,
this would make a great Christmas movie, because it seems
like that's where all the scary movies are ending up
these days around the Christmas holiday season.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
We should have had a Santa Mask.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, oh god, that'll be in the sequel.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Now, as actors, what did you learn from this, because
I mean, once again you're touching on a subject that
is very deep and very personal. How do you shake
this monkey off?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Ooh? I would say I learned.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I think what's really exciting to me so early on
in my career is getting to step into a character
and feel very challenged and almost intimidated by the opportunity
because you I don't think I've ever done anything before
where you watch the movie through my character's perspective, which
was a challenge. And be able to have the audience
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feel for her and to just get to express all
of her traumas was something that was very important to me,
and I think that it was exhausting not to mention
the stunts and the sobbing every day and all of
that stuff. So it was definitely a challenge and I
really enjoyed. Honestly, all I did on my off days
was sleep. I would get back to the hotel and
(17:24):
watch Love Is Blind and just sleep. That was what
I did the entire time in West Virginia, and it
was it was very needed, and it was challenging, and
it felt very fulfilling.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I enjoyed it a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Wow. Now, Amy, there's a scene in it that really
is going to stick with a lot of people. And
you played off so well because it's almost like you
were really living it walking down the staircase and without
spoiling it that you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Right, Oh I do?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh my god? How did you make it feel so real?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
That's a great question. I don't know. I just you know,
I just went with it. I just it was on
the page. If it's on the page, then it's on
the stage. And I just kind of I don't know,
I don't know. It's the mystery of acting. I think
it's it's it's hilarious and it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And it's one of my favorite moments.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, so true about that, because it does affect your
emotions all the way through it. Because I mean, the
opening scene of the movie it you know, it's very unexpected.
There's there's some circumstances that take place and then hold on,
here comes the anxiety.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, absolutely, And there's you know, there's there's that amazing
camera work. Landry had a rig that she wore, which
was kind of I think I can't speak for her,
but a little bit weird and challenging, but the way
it comes through on the screen is so fascinating and
so chaotic and yes, anxiety inducing. I just think it's
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so cool and I loved watching that happen.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah, that was super cool. And it also it added
to the anxiety, I.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Think, because our DP did an amazing job of making
it as suitable as possible, but there were times where
it was uncomfortable and like it would it would sort
of strap me in in a way that felt almost
like a corset.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So I think it added to the anxiety in a
way that I.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
You could sort of, like like we were talking about
it being from the character's perspective, you could literally see
me moving and at my every motion was captured, which
I think was a really clever, clever, like cinematic approach
to it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Wow. Well, congratulations on this on this movie, because it
really is a thinker as well as a doer, and
I just I'm just so proud of the two of
you bringing this to life because it's going to be
talked about a lot.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Thank you, peoples.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, please come back to this show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you too.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Thank you so much, appreciate that. Errow have a great day.
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You bet be brilliant today you too.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Oh, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
So I'm speaking your good praises about the state that
you live in.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's a great state except you. It's been raining here
for three days though, and it's cold. Oh yeah, you know,
it's funny. Jars of clay came into my head a
couple of yesterday when I saw the forecast for you guys.
Oh my goodness, Well okay, we'll go. You know, they
make a lot of jars made out of clay here
in Carolina. Here's a jar that you can't play up with.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
These two fun young ladies.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's Landry and Amy. You guys know about Charlotte, don't you.
Wasn't Homeland filmed here?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I did? That's what I was just going to say.
I did.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I did Homeland in Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh my god. I mean to this day people will
walk around this town and say, this is where they
did this, this is where they did that. In fact,
I wish they would take the journey when you guys
would go in, drop your vocal tracks down over there
at John Cosby's place, which is the ground crew.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yes, I did do some adr over there and my character,
Maggie her house.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
She had a big, beautiful house.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I forget what the neighborhood was called, but it was
where the big beautiful houses are and it was so lovely.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's just amazing how how this area has become so
fulfilled by by you know, filming, just even reality shows nowadays,
and it's like, what is going on here? This is
supposed to be DYBD Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well you know what goes into that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think the local crews were so incredible and incredibly
talented and great vibes. It just it made it easy.
And the Charlotte Airport you can get anywhere from there.
The infrastructure is there, the people are there. It really
makes a lot. And I think the tax.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Credits are pretty good. Yeah as well.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Really it makes sense. I've done other I've shot in Wilmington.
I've shot a few things in Charlotte also.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh my, it's a great state.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, let's talk about self Help, because this movie right here,
it gets inside your head. I mean, you walk into
it because you've seen the trailer, you've done this, you've
done that, But until you experience self help, my god,
you're not going to shake it. After the movie is over,
You're going to sit there and you're gonna look at
your own personal life. Did you guys feel it being
on the set.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Ooh, that's a good question. I definitely.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I don't think I felt it in a way of
getting into Landry's personal psyche.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I think that would probably freak me out.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
But I was definitely like doing a lot of character
prep with this character because I wanted to make sure
that if you're seeing it through the lens of her perspective,
to make sure you can like feel her pain and
her struggles and trauma and all the things that she's
gone through. So I can't say I was going home
at night and like sitting in the hotel and going
through all my problems and needing to go to therapy.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I definitely can't say that. But more from a character perspective.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, it's a movie that a lot of people can
tap into in the way that it scares you, but
at the same time, it makes you aware of everything
that's around you. And that's what I loved about it
is that it plays with your emotions all the way around.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I love that about the movie.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's not it's it's a horror movie, sure, but there's
so much psychology involved in it that and it's very
it's very grounded actually and very based in you know
that we've all seen these cult documentaries on Netflix, right,
that was kind of that's the way in. It's these
these kind of how do regular people find themselves in
these terrible situations? And that's kind of the way into
(03:25):
to self help. It's really grounded in reality.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, But I think it's the voice of Curtis Clark
because I was convinced. I was convinced I wanted to
be a part of this art because the way he spoke.
I mean, to be able to sit there and speak
the way that he did and explain things. I'm going,
I'm buying into this. Curtis, you got me, You got me.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
He's convincing for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What is he like in real life? Though? Because it
does he have that voice.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Jake Weber, Yeah, I mean kind.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Of kind of he does. He commands a power for sure.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
I don't think he like is that you know, he's
not giving speeches to the entire room, but he definitely commands,
like commands attention in a really powerful and impressive way.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
But I would say he's quieter in life than he
is in a.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Quiet charisma to him is charismatic in a way it
without really trying, it just kind of radiates off of
him totally.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, I mean it opens up with something that really
I mean, I think this is one of the reasons
why I said, okay, I would walk this way, is
he goes, I'm not the Messiah you are. I'm going,
Oh my god, I mean whoever were? Oh my god? Yeah,
you are in control. And it's like that was one
that set me off because even Stephen Ferdie from Elevation
Church would never say that to me.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But I mean, to be on the set and to
have this kind of energy moving around you know, each
and every one of you, even though it was a script,
it was all laid out, we are acting, But my god,
the words that were chosen and were written out seem
to be so real.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Exactly. That's my point. It's based in real, real situations.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
People who kind of fall prey to these kinds of
Charlatans who come across as really genuine, real people delivering
And that's the thing part. A lot of his message
really is helpful, a lot of the advice he's giving
is useful. But then there's that twist. There's that part
where that the ground gets a little unsteady under you
and you're not sure what's happening.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I also think the interesting part of this film is
a lot of those cult documentaries and a lot of
the stories we hear are a parent sort of saving
their innocent child who has gotten pulled into this thing.
But with our film, it's the child who's coming into
their own having to.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Pull out her mom.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Which that's kind of the reason why she's not taken seriously.
She's the young one, she's the one who's innocent and
doesn't really know better. But it's actually that she is
the voice of reason here and she needs to be trusted.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So it kind of flips that on its head in
a really interesting way.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, it only took you seconds to realize it was
a cult. I mean when you, I mean you were
not trying to hide it whatsoever. You named it what
it was, but yet you stayed.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
I think when you care about people so much, especially
when you're you know, in your late teens early twenties,
you we all have this realization in much much purer
ways of like our parents are just people.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
They're not superheroes. They're they're trying out life for the
first time, just like we are.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
So she wants to save her mom because she wants
to have a relationship with her mom.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
She's never felt close to her mom, so she's always
felt super.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Alone and independent and like she's had to raise herself,
and so I think sort of seeing her mom be
in such a vulnerable state, she wants to stay in
order to save her, which I think was what any
of us would do for our loved ones.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Andrew's character also has, you know, despite the fact that
this mother daughter relationship is is flawed and the mom,
you know, my character hasn't been the best. I think
Landry's character has a lot of love for her and
sees possibly that you know, I've been not just taken
in by kind of the cult angle, but also there's
a kind of a romance scam thing that might be
(07:02):
happening as well. So I think the underneath it all
is just that familial care that a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know, this stuff happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's like ripped from the headlines where parents are you know,
moms giving away zillions of dollars or you know, meeting
someone online getting catfished and sending money to some random person.
So you know, there's that element to the plot line
as well that I think is really really brings true
and is very feels very current.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Please do not move. There's more with Amy and Landry
coming up next. The name of the new movie self Help.
It is a thriller. We're back with Amy and Landry. Well,
I had a lot of compassion I still do inside
my heart for your character. And the reason why is
because it's like, Okay, I've either met you before, you know,
(07:48):
in other words, a person that you're playing, or I
know people who are walking in that direction, and it's
like it becomes now a study tool.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, that's very generous because I think I do think.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, despite the fact, again she's not the best,
she hasn't been the best, but she's lonely and she's
she's suffered, and she's looking for connection, and she truly
thinks she has found something meaningful in her life, and
she wants to bring her daughter along and as a
part of that to kind of repair the relationship with
her daughter. So I think she's really coming from for
her a real genuine place of trying to you know,
(08:20):
share this love and repair what they do have.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, what listeners and viewers need to understand is I
realize that the trailer does show the arcade and having
fun with the games and stuff like that, but this
movie is so much more than that. You've got to
get beyond those opening scenes and get into this storyline.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
That arcade, we're bringing that up.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
We were saying, well, being in that arcade, it felt
like a liminal space.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
If you've ever seen like those or like.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Those spaces you have dreams about, where it's just like
very eagerie to be in there.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Kind of like I almost started getting.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
A headache when we were filming in that arcade because
it was so eerie and yeah, it felt like a
horror That was one of the moments where I did
feel like a horror movie just being in there, crazy
place they filmed.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, if anybody knows of it's kind of a famous
place that we filmed that called Billy Bob's Wonderland really Barbersville,
West Virginia. It was like stepping back in time. It
was very, very strange, very big, very noisy, very all
the lights.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
In the sound. It was kind of an early Chucky Cheese.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, it hasn't been remodeled since. It feels like you're walking.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
I was born in two thousand, but it felt like
I was walking into the nineties for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Wow. Wow, here's something that made me sit up straight
and still to this moment gives me chills. When you
guys start speaking of the truth Ambassador, it's like, oh my.
In fact, I went on to chat GPT to find
out if this even exists. Is there such a thing
as a truth Ambassador? It's enough to scare the GBI's
at you.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I need to chat GPT that I didn't GBT didn't
exists when we shot this last year.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Oh my god, that's fascinating. Sorry, what was your question?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Basically, just say that the way that you guys plant
your lines, I mean, it's stuff that's it's so subtle
and so powerful that it's like, to me, it's like
the difference between asking questions and making a statement, you know,
what I mean, because I mean the way that you
guys put this into place, that you sit there and
you go, WHOA, what did I just hear? Oh my god,
thank god, I've got the power of rewind where I
can relive this again.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, that's a test to like Amy and Madison, every
single other cast member of this film. I had the
luxury of getting to honestly just play truth and play
things from the audience's perspective, but everybody else sort of
had a double meaning to everything that they were saying,
and on the paper it could have been played as
very one note. But they all did so much incredible
(10:42):
work to be able to create so much nuance there.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
We need to give credit to the Bloomquist brothers who
really wrote such a fascinating and multi layered script for
us to play with.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah, so smart.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
We're living in a new age of horror films, is
what we are. And to me, it's in the writing
and it's in the acting. It doesn't necessarily have to
be a Freddie or adjacent movie. Just give me the words,
give me something that's going to affect my mind.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, this feels like in the tradition of kind of
I mean Jordan peele Ski lot where there's plenty of scares,
but it's also very deep.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Radical autonomy. You see all these words that you guys
planted inside of me inside this movie. I mean, it's
stuff that just really forces you. I mean, take notes, people,
when you go see this movie, you've got to take
notes because it could be happening around you.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It's a great movie to see in the theaters with
other people. Bring your friends because there's that kind of
like group think thing that happens on screening that could
be fun to reflect on with your friends and to
experience with your friends.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, for sure, a day of study at the lake.
That's a game changer in this movie. He made a choice.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
He did it all.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, and it's just And where where was this lake?
Because I kept sitting there saying, I swear to God,
I've been to this lake. Why do I know this lake?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
West Virginia, random woods of West Virginia. I don't know
the actually exact lake. We filmed that Sometimes when we're filming,
we're just taken to a random place and we.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Just go with it. But somewhere close to Barbersville, West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Taking the time to build up Olivia's relationship. I mean
that that was a very long car ride that was
featured in the early part of the movie. I mean,
and I kept thinking, they're going someplace here, pay attention
to where they're going, and it's like, but I love
the way that you gave me enough time as a
viewer to digest it. It wasn't in the blink of
an eye. I'm already there.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, No, that's definitely true. They did a good job
not only writing but editing that. I think that there's
there's a lot of suspense in those sort of road
trip horror movies where you see either a couple or
some friends or whoever go out to that place in
the middle of the woods, and it sort of adds
some suspense there. So I love the way they did that.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now, Miss Amy, you and I share something in common,
and that is is that we want to have a
leadership for those that are behind us. It's almost like
we're turning around to the generations behind us to bring
them up. Can we talk about speak well, because I mean,
that is one thing that you are so involved in
and it's so inspiring for those that need to grow
forward stronger.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That is such a nice question. Thank you for asking
me about that. Yeah, this is Speak Well is.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
An after school program that teaches young people or help
helps young people find their voice through public speaking. It's
a leadership program that has been growing by leaps and
bounds over the last few years. And I was their
first mentor. So I go in and meet with the
young people and talk about my career and how public
(13:50):
speaking and being comfortable in front of people and how
finding my voice has been so important in my life
and it's been really fulfilling.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We're really doing great.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
The kids have really gone onto bigger and better things,
so we're proud of them.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So were you guys freaked out by the clown masks?
Because I was. I mean, And the thing about it is, though,
is it plays throughout the entire movie, and so if
people like clown movies, oh you're going to get into
this one, but it's going to be in a different way.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I definitely was.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I had so many days with our stunt coordinator and like,
it's just the the clown was very much present for
so many days.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
That whole that whole barn.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Sequence, when I'm when I'm in the shed, that was
like a two day shoot, which was nuts and we
didn't have that long of a shoot, so that was
that was a lot of time spent with that clown
and sort of Yeah, just just seeing that mask every
day was nuts.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, and it's played in a way Amy that I
mean because I mean, I I well, I don't want
to spoil the movie, but I assumed that it was
the mom and and my assumption did not pay off.
And that's what I love about this movie is that
you can guess all day and you're not going to
figure out this movie. There's just no way you're going
to figure out the writing and the acting in this movie.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Wow, I am. I did not see that comment coming. Wow, Landry,
what do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
That's I didn't Yeah, I didn't either. I could see
that now that you say it, especially.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
With like I think there's times where the clowns drinking
and then there's times are you there's tints to your
alcohol stuff. Now that you're saying it, I'm connecting those dots.
But I didn't even that was not even something we
talked about.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's awk Again.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
This is why everybody needs to go and see this
movie in the theaters with their friends. This weekend, because
it's the ultimate movie where you're going to come out
and say, like, wait, I thought it was this, I
thought it was that, or you know series.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I love like an aftermovie debrief, like in the lobby
of an AFC, just like debriefing everyone's thoughts.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, it's the best way.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, that's exactly what they do at Regal Stonecrest when
they come out of a movie, especially this one. They're
going to be gathering out there in that huge lobby
and they're going to be talking about it. And I
wouldn't be shocked if they don't go over there by
the bar and sit down and even go into a
deeper conversation because you've got to digest this movie.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I agree. I agree, it's the best perfect combination.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's Halloween but plus thoughtful. You know, there's like the
deepest stuff, but then the scary stuff. It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's interesting you say Halloween because I sat there and
I was, while watching it or experiencing it, I went,
this would make a great Christmas movie, because it seems
like that's where all the scary movies are ending up
these days around the Christmas holiday season.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
We should have had a Santa Mask.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, oh god, that'll be in the sequel.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Now, as actors, what did you learn from this, because
I mean, once again you're touching on a subject that
is very deep and very personal. How do you shake
this monkey off?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Ooh? I would say I learned.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I think what's really exciting to me so early on
in my career is getting to step into a character
and feel very challenged and almost intimidated by the opportunity
because you I don't think I've ever done anything before
where you watch the movie through my character's perspective, which
was a challenge. And be able to have the audience
(17:02):
feel for her and to just get to express all
of her traumas was something that was very important to me,
and I think that it was exhausting not to mention
the stunts and the sobbing every day and all of
that stuff. So it was definitely a challenge and I
really enjoyed. Honestly, all I did on my off days
was sleep. I would get back to the hotel and
(17:24):
watch Love Is Blind and just sleep. That was what
I did the entire time in West Virginia, and it
was it was very needed, and it was challenging, and
it felt very fulfilling.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I enjoyed it a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Wow. Now, Amy, there's a scene in it that really
is going to stick with a lot of people. And
you played off so well because it's almost like you
were really living it walking down the staircase and without
spoiling it that you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Right, Oh I do?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh my god? How did you make it feel so real?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
That's a great question. I don't know. I just you know,
I just went with it. I just it was on
the page. If it's on the page, then it's on
the stage. And I just kind of I don't know,
I don't know. It's the mystery of acting. I think
it's it's it's hilarious and it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And it's one of my favorite moments.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, so true about that, because it does affect your
emotions all the way through it. Because I mean, the
opening scene of the movie it you know, it's very unexpected.
There's there's some circumstances that take place and then hold on,
here comes the anxiety.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, absolutely, And there's you know, there's there's that amazing
camera work. Landry had a rig that she wore, which
was kind of I think I can't speak for her,
but a little bit weird and challenging, but the way
it comes through on the screen is so fascinating and
so chaotic and yes, anxiety inducing. I just think it's
(18:48):
so cool and I loved watching that happen.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah, that was super cool. And it also it added
to the anxiety, I.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Think, because our DP did an amazing job of making
it as suitable as possible, but there were times where
it was uncomfortable and like it would it would sort
of strap me in in a way that felt almost
like a corset.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So I think it added to the anxiety in a
way that I.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
You could sort of, like like we were talking about
it being from the character's perspective, you could literally see
me moving and at my every motion was captured, which
I think was a really clever, clever, like cinematic approach
to it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Wow. Well, congratulations on this on this movie, because it
really is a thinker as well as a doer, and
I just I'm just so proud of the two of
you bringing this to life because it's going to be
talked about a lot.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Thank you, peoples.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, please come back to this show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you too.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Thank you so much, appreciate that. Errow have a great day.
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You bet be brilliant today you too.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Oh, thank you, thank you.
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