October 31, 2025 • 18 mins
The cult classic film The Rocky Horror Picture Show will celebrate its 50th anniversary this fall. Timed to the occasion, HarperPop will be publishing ROCKY HORROR: A Behind the Scenes Look at the Cult Classic (HarperPop; on sale September 30, 2025; 256 pages, 4-color throughout, $50.00; ISBN 9780063385689), a visual compendium of rarely-scene photographs by legendary rock photographer Mick Rock. Full of unique behind-the-scenes moments from the production of the iconic film, ROCKY HORROR is set to be the ultimate collector's item for fans and cinephiles alike.Capturing the essence of a cultural phenomenon that defied the odds, Rock's collection is a testament to the film's enduring legacy and its vivid undercurrents of sexual fluidity and B-movie camp. The Rocky Horror Picture Show initially flopped upon its release but rose to become a midnight cult classic, inspiring audiences to interact with the film through live performances and spirited audience participation.The late Mick Rock-famous for his work with music legends like David Bowie, Queen, and Blondie-was granted exclusive access during the six weeks of filming. His camera captured not only the action on set but also the essence and energy that made Rocky Horror unique. "I could snap whatever caught my eye, stirred my imagination," said Rock. This creative freedom resulted in an extraordinary collection of images that offer a fresh perspective on the film.The book features a foreword by Richard O'Brien, the creative force behind Rocky Horror, who reflects on the film's incredible journey to becoming a theatrical staple with the longest-running release in history. Interviews with cast members, Mick's personal notes, and other production ephemera are beautifully compiled in a stunning four-color format. The book also contains quotes from the legion of fans of the movie, including Joan Jett, Billy Corgan, Courtney Love, Juliette Lewis, Jinkx Monsoon, Duff McKagan, Anna Sui, Karen O, Trixie Mattel, Peaches, Norman Reedus, Cassandra Peterson (aka Elvira, Mistress of the Dark), and many, many more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Patty. How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm fine, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Very excited to share a conversation with you, because I
can't put this book down. And I think it's because
that this has all been a part of my life,
my entire life, not only your your husband's photography throughout
the years, but now you throw in the Rocky Horror
Picture Show and now you own me like somebody just
sitting there staring at a Christmas present. I don't eat
the tree. It's like that thing owns me until I
(00:24):
open it and it's like, oh my god, look at
this gift that Patty has given us.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oh, thank you sal much. It is beautiful, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh my god. I've never seen anything that embraces the
reality of the moment. Because I mean, seriously, of all
the people that are going to pick up this book
and experience it, they're gonna sit there and they're gonna say,
I didn't know because nobody really gave me these kinds
of pictures. It's I mean, because the way that you
go in and you give us one on one shots
of everybody, and I just it just I think that's
(00:54):
why I'm pulled into it. Even more.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm so glad to hear that, I really am, because
that's what I was hoping for.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, one of the things that mickhat he's got an
eye for storytelling. I mean he never ever had to
really speak a word. He let that those you know,
those photographs share the story and it's like you just
sit there and you're mesmerized by them. And I do
have to ask you, are you going to put these
on the road and travel from city to city so
that we can go up and at least get a
real close visual of them.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, you know what, that's the thought, and I'm going
to put it. I'm going to put it to my
team and see what we can do.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah. Now, what I tell you this is because I've
been a daily writer since July of nineteen ninety four.
When I read that Mick kept personal notes, well you
know what that did to my imagination. I want to
see his handwriting. I want to smell the ink on
that page, because that's what we do as writers. We
just have to feel the texture of it all. So
what was it like to be inside his personal notes
(01:52):
and then to step into the photography?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Woah, Well, the photography, of course, I was familiar with
because Mick did a prior book that was only published
in Germany. So the so the template was there and
that part was very easy, except that book was more
uh photographic, and we made it even more we reaching
(02:25):
out myself and my team, reaching out to the cast, uh,
the Richard O'Brien, Lou Adler, and Barry Boswick uh uh
you know, now everybody involved. And then we had everybody
(02:50):
else's how it affected them, how it you know, uh,
what they loved about it, how they felt about it.
And we got some amazing recollections and quotes from people.
The contributors were amazing and very generous of the time.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well, Richard O'Brien starts off the book and I can't explain.
I mean, when I saw his name on there, I'm going,
this is how you start this book, and it pulls
you into this journey and then all of a sudden
you go to the next page. But you're carrying the
thoughts of Richard O'Brien, Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
No, and they're just wonderful people. Richard is amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And what a ball of energy. He still is my god.
But see, that's what I love about him is that
he's not afraid to be himself.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh no, no, no, no, he is not.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He is totally himself and he's just a wonderful man,
very kind soul, very generous.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Which is so you know, and then you look at
Riffre and you think, you know, is this really But
he's exactly that. He's of just a wonderful person.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You know. It's one of those things where I remember
as a kid when when I saw Rocky Horror Picture
Show and I saw him, it was one of those things,
Oh is that Tom Petty is what's going on here?
And it's like it's always been that Tom Petty attraction
to me because I just keep waiting for him to
break out in you know, Last Dance with Mary Jane.
I mean, because I mean I've just always had that
connection with him because of that, because he looks so
(04:30):
much like Tom Petty.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's funny that you say that in the book.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
There's a photo that Mick took of Richard from another
play was that actually preceded Rocky Horror the film, and
that was Tooth of Crime, Sam Shepherd's play that that
had a run in London. And you know he's got
(04:57):
you know, the leathers on and eyepatch is just he
He transforms himself, you know, he can with his face
and his acting ability.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Speaking of transforming, how is it that fans of the
Rocky Horror Picture Show transformed into being their own performers
at these presentations of it and of all things? Mick
captures that that essence of it all, and you put
the actual fans experiences inside the pages. I mean, for
those that are like generation Alpha and Beta and Z,
they're now getting the experience that we had, and so
(05:34):
therefore it just continues on.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, and I get the feeling that those people that
are still going to the movies, the new, the younger people,
they're there with their parents or you know, I mean
really it's it's just it. Rocky Horror brings more fans in.
(06:00):
I don't think anyone leaves that experience.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So why is it? What is your gut reaction as
to why it pulled us in? You know, people will
always tell you always just a sign of the times.
I'm not thinking that's true. I'm thinking there's something here
that has a connection that still deserves to be studied
even today.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I you know, I think, I you know, you could
just simply answer, Oh, it's just a lot of fun.
It's a really fun movie. But you're right, it touches
a lot of different people, whether you're day or you're
just a fashion person, or you're a fan of Tim
(06:43):
Curry and his acting career and want to see the beginning.
I think it's just something for everyone in it.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I really do, well what, I really cherish a lot
only because those very powerful lips of the Rocky Horror
Picture Show are you know, just just dug deep inside
my soul. You didn't go that route. You allowed us
to see the lips of Tim Curry, You allowed us
to see the lips of statues. You allowed us to
see how important it was that these lips grew everywhere
else around us, and that we weren't freaks for seeing
(07:13):
those things.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well, you know, I have to give credit to my designer,
Carol Boboltz, and so she worked with me, she listened
to me. We went back and forth a bit, and yeah,
we try to just keep that identifier.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Would you say that the Rocky Horror Pictures Show and
the way that Mick has documented it, not only is
this a beautiful place to have creative freedom, but it
said you know, drop your guard and go be yourself.
These are the arts. The arts are about being yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Absolutely, absolutely, and I think that's part of the appeal
because you could go there and go, wow, you know,
maybe I felt like this, or maybe I wanted to
do that, or you know, just be outrageous. Let's be outrageous,
and that's part of being young.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I think I would love to see how many people
are going to be bringing this book to the actual
when when somebody is playing Rocky Horror Picture Show. Because
we're still doing it in Charlotte. We're doing the midnight
showings of it at these theaters because they know that
people are going to come that late at night. But
I would love to see how many people bring this
book and then everybody signs it because it was part
of their experience that night.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, I'd love to be that too. Harrow.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, there are no two experiences the same, because if
I go in there on a Friday night and go
back the next Friday night, it's it's a completely different
play of everybody's actions and reactions. And even though there
might be some regular people there, it doesn't matter. It's
a different experience.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Right, They bring their own. They bring a little bit
of their own Rocky Horror too.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
The party, Please.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Do not move. There's more with Patty Rock coming up next.
The name of the book Rocky Horror. Behind the Scenes,
look at the cult classic. We are back with Patty Rock.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What was it like for you to dig into these photographs,
because I can't imagine where they've been hidden all these years.
Was it, oh my god? It was it a safe
I mean, and then all of a sudden you step
inside and see these glorious moments of humanism.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, I did have a template because Mick did a prior.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Rocky Horror book.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
In Germany and it was only published there. If Nick
was alive today, he definitely would have done a US
fiftieth anniversary version.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
He definitely would have done that.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So the photos were handy, and you know, and I
watched him work on it, so I knew, I knew.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
His pro.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And it was very easy to pull these photographs here.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It was.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It was a little bittersweet too, but I enjoyed keeping
that legacy going, and I enjoyed it was just a
great project for me for the first book that I
could actually put out there.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So now when you say the first book. What are
we looking forward to, Miss Patty.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
To be?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's soon, but there's going to be more.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I mean, he has so much stuff, so many artists,
and yeah, we're going to We're going to do a
couple more, definitely. You know.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
One of the things that I've argued about over the
past ten to twenty years is that I believe that
the photography of rock and roll and its history, just
all forms of music, those those people behind the lens
of that camera need to be in the Hall of
Fame or would that be a violation of their creativity?
Or because because I think that Mick needs to be
in there, we need to go into that rock and
roll Hall of Fame and see him in there for
(11:13):
doing what he has done with us.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
From your mouth to God's ears, I agree.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I agree, because yeah, they are every bit the reason
why we went to magazines, Because to me, did you
really go there to read the article or did you
go there to look at the pictures? I went for
the pictures, and that's why I depended on people like Mick.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yes, airo I you know, as a young art student,
I used to collect albums. Yeah, and the same thing. Yeah,
you went for the music. But half the fun was
the album cover.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Mm hmmm, how did how did Mick envision that? Because
in order to create the best album cover and get
that right shot at the right moment, he had to
be thinking about a record store, a music land, a
tower records. He had to be thinking about what will
the consumer be looking at when they walk into that
store today.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know, I don't really think so.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think Nick was very much in when he was
photographing in that moment, and he was about the connection
with that artist, which is why I think so many
artists really loved working with him. He wasn't thinking about
tower records or anything like that. And I really think
(12:40):
because of that connection between Nick as an artist and
his subject, that's what you know you're getting out of it,
and lo and behold, a fantastic iconic photograph comes out
of it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yep. Did he know which one was going to be
the iconic when he would see it? Because I know
when I take you know photos, I'll sit there and
I'll go that's a classic. But the thing is, though,
is that when you post it didn't work. How was
it that he was able to make it work?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
You could see in the book We included a.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Lot of contact sheets where you could see, you know,
mixed wax marks on what he would circle. And of
course he would work with the subjects, you know, in
those days, he would like print up a bunch of
contact sheets and I believe we have one photo of
(13:41):
the whole crew, yes and uh and everyone looking over
contact sheets, and he would like, what do you like here?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Look?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And I think even after the photo shoot, he's still
involved is his friends, his sub checks, and these artists
in you know, what was going to be put out in.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Public, speaking of the entire group in a picture. I mean,
that's how the book opens up is with that huge picture.
And of course my eyes automatically go, I find Tim Curry,
because that's the way that good marketing is all about.
But then to go through every one of those people
who are in that photograph, that to me is the
magic of your husband, Patty. That because he knew that
we would not just sit there and go a picture
(14:27):
of a group of people. Nope, nope, nope, that is
your life sitting there with those people.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yes, And he loved Nick, loved characters, so he could
have been there on set, you know, just kind of
behind the cameraman click click. But when they had downtime,
I believe he just pulled, you know, Nell or Patricia
(14:57):
or Tim or shirt and just said, let's let's do
a couple of shots right over here in the corners,
or even meat load with that stuffed bird. So you
know there's a whole spread on meat load.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
So that's how he worked.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
See and what I what? Once again, this is part
of the continuation when you have a layout like that
of meat Loaf and you've got the generations that followed
after Meatloaf that are going in there saying, oh my god,
that's the dude that I listened to two out of three.
Ain't bad Paradise by the dashboard lice. You mean he
was part of Rocky Horror Picture Show, Because Patty, that's
where we are right now that we were that generation
(15:39):
that experienced it, and the younger generation are saying you
were part of that.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes, yes, yes, And it still speaks to people, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah it does, Yeah it does because it's it's to me,
it's like a patch on your arm. You just keep
putting the patches on, saying yeah, that's my fifteenth time,
let's go sixteenth but you were talking about Mick and
how he likes characters. Well, he stepped into the right
pond on that day, because there's horror, there's punk, there's theater,
there's mystery, there's sexuality. I mean, he got it all
(16:09):
on that lens. I mean, he must have been in
heaven when he was in that character group.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I think he had a lot of fun. Yeah, I
really do, really do. And he writ and he writes about.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It, you know, so we have his writing in it
with everyone else's. So unlike all of Mick's previous books,
I really wanted Meck to be part of this one.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
He is he is. I heard his voice. I did
when you're when you're sitting there reading everything that that
that he had put into ink and stuff. Yeah, you
can't help, but hear his voice, and you know, I'll
tell you what's really interesting is that in locating that voice,
I had to go and listen to old interviews on
YouTube because I wanted to when I went in there,
I didn't want to hear my voice reading those lines.
I needed to hear his voice, you know, So that
(16:57):
when I went in there and read those lines, it
was him that I I heard.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Very nice very nice.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yes, Wow, what a beautiful piece of artwork. And I
think it's going to be one of those where people
are going to buy three and four copies. You know,
they're going to give it to family members, but I
also believe that they are going to put it in
a box and they're going to hide it in the
attic or they're going to hide it in the closet
because it's going to go untouched. And I realize that's
not what you're supposed to do with rock music, but
when it comes to a true fan of your husband
as well as a rocky horror picture show, we need
(17:25):
to have the untouched version. So I encourage people buy
three and four versions of this book.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Thank you, Thank you, Errow.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Where can people go to find out more about what
you're up to? Because you teased me, you said there's
going to be more books, So now now you really
have my attention.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Well, I'm going to chill out for December. Okay, Well
actually no, not completely. We're having another party in La
a book party December tenth. I believe I don't have
all the information now, but after that, I'm just going
(18:03):
to decompress and take stock of what i'd like to
do next.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I love it. Well, you've got to come back to
this show anytime in the future, Patty. The door is
always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Okay, yes, thank you and have a great day.
Good morning, Patty. How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm fine, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Very excited to share a conversation with you, because I
can't put this book down. And I think it's because
that this has all been a part of my life,
my entire life, not only your your husband's photography throughout
the years, but now you throw in the Rocky Horror
Picture Show and now you own me like somebody just
sitting there staring at a Christmas present. I don't eat
the tree. It's like that thing owns me until I
(00:24):
open it and it's like, oh my god, look at
this gift that Patty has given us.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oh, thank you sal much. It is beautiful, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh my god. I've never seen anything that embraces the
reality of the moment. Because I mean, seriously, of all
the people that are going to pick up this book
and experience it, they're gonna sit there and they're gonna say,
I didn't know because nobody really gave me these kinds
of pictures. It's I mean, because the way that you
go in and you give us one on one shots
of everybody, and I just it just I think that's
(00:54):
why I'm pulled into it. Even more.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm so glad to hear that, I really am, because
that's what I was hoping for.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, one of the things that mickhat he's got an
eye for storytelling. I mean he never ever had to
really speak a word. He let that those you know,
those photographs share the story and it's like you just
sit there and you're mesmerized by them. And I do
have to ask you, are you going to put these
on the road and travel from city to city so
that we can go up and at least get a
real close visual of them.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, you know what, that's the thought, and I'm going
to put it. I'm going to put it to my
team and see what we can do.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah. Now, what I tell you this is because I've
been a daily writer since July of nineteen ninety four.
When I read that Mick kept personal notes, well you
know what that did to my imagination. I want to
see his handwriting. I want to smell the ink on
that page, because that's what we do as writers. We
just have to feel the texture of it all. So
what was it like to be inside his personal notes
(01:52):
and then to step into the photography?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Woah, Well, the photography, of course, I was familiar with
because Mick did a prior book that was only published
in Germany. So the so the template was there and
that part was very easy, except that book was more
uh photographic, and we made it even more we reaching
(02:25):
out myself and my team, reaching out to the cast, uh,
the Richard O'Brien, Lou Adler, and Barry Boswick uh uh
you know, now everybody involved. And then we had everybody
(02:50):
else's how it affected them, how it you know, uh,
what they loved about it, how they felt about it.
And we got some amazing recollections and quotes from people.
The contributors were amazing and very generous of the time.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well, Richard O'Brien starts off the book and I can't explain.
I mean, when I saw his name on there, I'm going,
this is how you start this book, and it pulls
you into this journey and then all of a sudden
you go to the next page. But you're carrying the
thoughts of Richard O'Brien, Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
No, and they're just wonderful people. Richard is amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And what a ball of energy. He still is my god.
But see, that's what I love about him is that
he's not afraid to be himself.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh no, no, no, no, he is not.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He is totally himself and he's just a wonderful man,
very kind soul, very generous.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Which is so you know, and then you look at
Riffre and you think, you know, is this really But
he's exactly that. He's of just a wonderful person.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You know. It's one of those things where I remember
as a kid when when I saw Rocky Horror Picture
Show and I saw him, it was one of those things,
Oh is that Tom Petty is what's going on here?
And it's like it's always been that Tom Petty attraction
to me because I just keep waiting for him to
break out in you know, Last Dance with Mary Jane.
I mean, because I mean I've just always had that
connection with him because of that, because he looks so
(04:30):
much like Tom Petty.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's funny that you say that in the book.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
There's a photo that Mick took of Richard from another
play was that actually preceded Rocky Horror the film, and
that was Tooth of Crime, Sam Shepherd's play that that
had a run in London. And you know he's got
(04:57):
you know, the leathers on and eyepatch is just he
He transforms himself, you know, he can with his face
and his acting ability.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Speaking of transforming, how is it that fans of the
Rocky Horror Picture Show transformed into being their own performers
at these presentations of it and of all things? Mick
captures that that essence of it all, and you put
the actual fans experiences inside the pages. I mean, for
those that are like generation Alpha and Beta and Z,
they're now getting the experience that we had, and so
(05:34):
therefore it just continues on.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, and I get the feeling that those people that
are still going to the movies, the new, the younger people,
they're there with their parents or you know, I mean
really it's it's just it. Rocky Horror brings more fans in.
(06:00):
I don't think anyone leaves that experience.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So why is it? What is your gut reaction as
to why it pulled us in? You know, people will
always tell you always just a sign of the times.
I'm not thinking that's true. I'm thinking there's something here
that has a connection that still deserves to be studied
even today.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I you know, I think, I you know, you could
just simply answer, Oh, it's just a lot of fun.
It's a really fun movie. But you're right, it touches
a lot of different people, whether you're day or you're
just a fashion person, or you're a fan of Tim
(06:43):
Curry and his acting career and want to see the beginning.
I think it's just something for everyone in it.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I really do, well what, I really cherish a lot
only because those very powerful lips of the Rocky Horror
Picture Show are you know, just just dug deep inside
my soul. You didn't go that route. You allowed us
to see the lips of Tim Curry, You allowed us
to see the lips of statues. You allowed us to
see how important it was that these lips grew everywhere
else around us, and that we weren't freaks for seeing
(07:13):
those things.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well, you know, I have to give credit to my designer,
Carol Boboltz, and so she worked with me, she listened
to me. We went back and forth a bit, and yeah,
we try to just keep that identifier.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Would you say that the Rocky Horror Pictures Show and
the way that Mick has documented it, not only is
this a beautiful place to have creative freedom, but it
said you know, drop your guard and go be yourself.
These are the arts. The arts are about being yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Absolutely, absolutely, and I think that's part of the appeal
because you could go there and go, wow, you know,
maybe I felt like this, or maybe I wanted to
do that, or you know, just be outrageous. Let's be outrageous,
and that's part of being young.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I think I would love to see how many people
are going to be bringing this book to the actual
when when somebody is playing Rocky Horror Picture Show. Because
we're still doing it in Charlotte. We're doing the midnight
showings of it at these theaters because they know that
people are going to come that late at night. But
I would love to see how many people bring this
book and then everybody signs it because it was part
of their experience that night.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, I'd love to be that too. Harrow.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, there are no two experiences the same, because if
I go in there on a Friday night and go
back the next Friday night, it's it's a completely different
play of everybody's actions and reactions. And even though there
might be some regular people there, it doesn't matter. It's
a different experience.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Right, They bring their own. They bring a little bit
of their own Rocky Horror too.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
The party, Please.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Do not move. There's more with Patty Rock coming up next.
The name of the book Rocky Horror. Behind the Scenes,
look at the cult classic. We are back with Patty Rock.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What was it like for you to dig into these photographs,
because I can't imagine where they've been hidden all these years.
Was it, oh my god? It was it a safe
I mean, and then all of a sudden you step
inside and see these glorious moments of humanism.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, I did have a template because Mick did a prior.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Rocky Horror book.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
In Germany and it was only published there. If Nick
was alive today, he definitely would have done a US
fiftieth anniversary version.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
He definitely would have done that.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So the photos were handy, and you know, and I
watched him work on it, so I knew, I knew.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
His pro.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And it was very easy to pull these photographs here.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It was.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It was a little bittersweet too, but I enjoyed keeping
that legacy going, and I enjoyed it was just a
great project for me for the first book that I
could actually put out there.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So now when you say the first book. What are
we looking forward to, Miss Patty.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
To be?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's soon, but there's going to be more.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I mean, he has so much stuff, so many artists,
and yeah, we're going to We're going to do a
couple more, definitely. You know.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
One of the things that I've argued about over the
past ten to twenty years is that I believe that
the photography of rock and roll and its history, just
all forms of music, those those people behind the lens
of that camera need to be in the Hall of
Fame or would that be a violation of their creativity?
Or because because I think that Mick needs to be
in there, we need to go into that rock and
roll Hall of Fame and see him in there for
(11:13):
doing what he has done with us.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
From your mouth to God's ears, I agree.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I agree, because yeah, they are every bit the reason
why we went to magazines, Because to me, did you
really go there to read the article or did you
go there to look at the pictures? I went for
the pictures, and that's why I depended on people like Mick.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yes, airo I you know, as a young art student,
I used to collect albums. Yeah, and the same thing. Yeah,
you went for the music. But half the fun was
the album cover.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Mm hmmm, how did how did Mick envision that? Because
in order to create the best album cover and get
that right shot at the right moment, he had to
be thinking about a record store, a music land, a
tower records. He had to be thinking about what will
the consumer be looking at when they walk into that
store today.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know, I don't really think so.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think Nick was very much in when he was
photographing in that moment, and he was about the connection
with that artist, which is why I think so many
artists really loved working with him. He wasn't thinking about
tower records or anything like that. And I really think
(12:40):
because of that connection between Nick as an artist and
his subject, that's what you know you're getting out of it,
and lo and behold, a fantastic iconic photograph comes out
of it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yep. Did he know which one was going to be
the iconic when he would see it? Because I know
when I take you know photos, I'll sit there and
I'll go that's a classic. But the thing is, though,
is that when you post it didn't work. How was
it that he was able to make it work?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
You could see in the book We included a.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Lot of contact sheets where you could see, you know,
mixed wax marks on what he would circle. And of
course he would work with the subjects, you know, in
those days, he would like print up a bunch of
contact sheets and I believe we have one photo of
(13:41):
the whole crew, yes and uh and everyone looking over
contact sheets, and he would like, what do you like here?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Look?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And I think even after the photo shoot, he's still
involved is his friends, his sub checks, and these artists
in you know, what was going to be put out in.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Public, speaking of the entire group in a picture. I mean,
that's how the book opens up is with that huge picture.
And of course my eyes automatically go, I find Tim Curry,
because that's the way that good marketing is all about.
But then to go through every one of those people
who are in that photograph, that to me is the
magic of your husband, Patty. That because he knew that
we would not just sit there and go a picture
(14:27):
of a group of people. Nope, nope, nope, that is
your life sitting there with those people.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yes, And he loved Nick, loved characters, so he could
have been there on set, you know, just kind of
behind the cameraman click click. But when they had downtime,
I believe he just pulled, you know, Nell or Patricia
(14:57):
or Tim or shirt and just said, let's let's do
a couple of shots right over here in the corners,
or even meat load with that stuffed bird. So you
know there's a whole spread on meat load.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
So that's how he worked.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
See and what I what? Once again, this is part
of the continuation when you have a layout like that
of meat Loaf and you've got the generations that followed
after Meatloaf that are going in there saying, oh my god,
that's the dude that I listened to two out of three.
Ain't bad Paradise by the dashboard lice. You mean he
was part of Rocky Horror Picture Show, Because Patty, that's
where we are right now that we were that generation
(15:39):
that experienced it, and the younger generation are saying you
were part of that.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes, yes, yes, And it still speaks to people, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah it does, Yeah it does because it's it's to me,
it's like a patch on your arm. You just keep
putting the patches on, saying yeah, that's my fifteenth time,
let's go sixteenth but you were talking about Mick and
how he likes characters. Well, he stepped into the right
pond on that day, because there's horror, there's punk, there's theater,
there's mystery, there's sexuality. I mean, he got it all
(16:09):
on that lens. I mean, he must have been in
heaven when he was in that character group.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I think he had a lot of fun. Yeah, I
really do, really do. And he writ and he writes about.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It, you know, so we have his writing in it
with everyone else's. So unlike all of Mick's previous books,
I really wanted Meck to be part of this one.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
He is he is. I heard his voice. I did
when you're when you're sitting there reading everything that that
that he had put into ink and stuff. Yeah, you
can't help, but hear his voice, and you know, I'll
tell you what's really interesting is that in locating that voice,
I had to go and listen to old interviews on
YouTube because I wanted to when I went in there,
I didn't want to hear my voice reading those lines.
I needed to hear his voice, you know, So that
(16:57):
when I went in there and read those lines, it
was him that I I heard.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Very nice very nice.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yes, Wow, what a beautiful piece of artwork. And I
think it's going to be one of those where people
are going to buy three and four copies. You know,
they're going to give it to family members, but I
also believe that they are going to put it in
a box and they're going to hide it in the
attic or they're going to hide it in the closet
because it's going to go untouched. And I realize that's
not what you're supposed to do with rock music, but
when it comes to a true fan of your husband
as well as a rocky horror picture show, we need
(17:25):
to have the untouched version. So I encourage people buy
three and four versions of this book.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Thank you, Thank you, Errow.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Where can people go to find out more about what
you're up to? Because you teased me, you said there's
going to be more books, So now now you really
have my attention.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Well, I'm going to chill out for December. Okay, Well
actually no, not completely. We're having another party in La
a book party December tenth. I believe I don't have
all the information now, but after that, I'm just going
(18:03):
to decompress and take stock of what i'd like to
do next.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I love it. Well, you've got to come back to
this show anytime in the future, Patty. The door is
always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Okay, yes, thank you and have a great day.
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