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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Sam, How are you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm doing great. How were you?
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Absolutely fantastic. Oh my god, Oh look at that hair.
God dad, dude, Oh I love it. You know, it's
all about the hair. That's where the attitude begins.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm forty. I just turned forty this year. But I'm
thinking back. I started growing my hair out when I
was sixteen. Yep, like that was the defiance stance in
the ground. When I was sixteen, I remember doing. My
dad was still mad.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Dude, you've got a kiss tea shirt on? Are we
on the same page here? What the hell's going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm a massive Kidds fan.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh. I've been with every one of them except for
Peter Chris, and I keep hoping that Peter one day
will step in my direction.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That would be so cool. He's the most difficult one,
the most elusive one.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
But why why is it musicians become that person that
stands back and says, I think I'm going to be
the mystery of music.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We've talked about this.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I've actually had great conversations with people about this. So, like, say,
Richie Blackmore, why does he do that? Why did he
choose to become so reclusive, like and is it a
good thing or a bad thing?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Are they do?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You think they're tarnished, tarnishing their image, their legacy, and
they kind of fade out into obscurity, whereas if guys
kind of stay in the public eye, their legacy kind
of rolls on forever.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It seems like, well, I've been with Richie but but
but during that conversation it was all about his wife
who was releasing music. And but but to be in
that moment with him, it was like it was like,
oh my god, this is a blessing and a reason
to grow forward.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
It's really interesting and I've always wanted it because it's
just like part of you wants to be that that spotlight,
but part of you just kind of wants to be
the musician, the creative guy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah. One of the things that I love about your
guys' performance is the fact that, yeah, Van Halen was
good and and and you could even put in other
bands that were good, but they didn't have a stage presence.
The Eagles, I've seen them so many times, but they
didn't have a stage presence. You guys have a stage presence.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yes, I think that's exactly what this whole thing is about.
And it's not about the band and the audience. It's
about mixing the two together to create the biggest, like
atomic explosion you could possibly do, and turn that into
the celebration in itself, Like the story kind of writes itself.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
If you can get the audience.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And the band on the same page, of everybody stumping
on the same level, like there's no stopping, that's the
best feeling ever.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
When did that hit you? Because I mean I remember
standing on stages at Rose Park and Billings, Montana when
I was fifteen years old performing music and I to
this damn going there's no presence there. You didn't give
them something memorable. When did it hit you?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It was just from the start, That's exactly what it was. Was.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It was like I joined a punk rock band, and
I was like the glam rock guy in a punk
rock band. I was wearing the fish nets and I
had the hair and the make and everything. We were
playing punk rock and we had to be the craziest, wildest,
We had to party the hardest. You know, everything was
always on ten and even getting sober, like everything just
is still always on ten and I think what you
said was probably the most. That hit me the most
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is I got to leave them with something that they remember.
I got to go as hard as I can possibly
go every single night, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
There's no excuse not to.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, isn't it about I need to get hired for
tomorrow night. I don't leave a mark tonight. I'm not
getting a job tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And I want to wake up in the morning and
see my face plastered all over everybody's social media saying
we have so much fun. That's exactly what we loved it.
The Men that Devils were so crazy. We had so
much fun. That's exactly what it is. And then you
do that repeat, repeat, repeat, and that's like a grassroots
energy kind of that word of mouth starts spreading that fire,
and that's where the real magic is.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You also want your body to hurt when you wake
up the next morning, and if your body's not hurting,
you did not do your job last night.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I completely agree with you, and I even take it
so far as that in the office season, when we're
not touring, I will train out in this heat just
so that I'm prepared on stage. I can leave everything
you know, I don't have to worry about overheating or
or you know, getting tired. None of that matters because
I'm fully prepared for that battle or whatever, you know,
for that show.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
See, people don't understand that about us, because I've been
out there on that stage with one hundred and two
degree temperature and we've got to keep fortified with either
gatorade or whatever we will. If we don't take care
of ourselves on that stage, we're gonna collapse dead.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And nobody wants that's That's like, you guys.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Straddle that line because if you go too far, the
ambulance is gonna come to parties over. But if you
can ride right on that line, you're gonna blow people's minds.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, but come on, that would be so effing cool
if an ambulance came to pick me up. I just
think that would be the greatest thing in the world,
because I'm going, yeah, baby, rock on.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He's okay, folks.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Let's talk about shock the world. This has a huge
punk edge to it because here's the thing about it.
I've been with the sex Pistols. I remember the sex
Pistols telling me each member as a solo you know,
as a solo person in their conversations, we are not
punk rock.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We are the blues.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So let me tell you, let me ask you, are
you the blues or what what are you doing when
you say that you've got a punk edge?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I think it's it comes from mentality and attitude and
kind of where this all started for me and for
for for our drummer Jimmy, Like, we started out as
like eighteen year old punk.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Rockers, but it was you know, free, any of this
free we were.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
We were on the road, flipping through our map quest notebooks,
like going to venue to venue, and for us, that
was punk rock. So we kind of grew up like
idolizing those bands, the Misfits, the Ramons, all these great, great,
awesome punk rock bands, but at the same time also
really loving like these big hair glam rock things that
are are just monstrous. So the idea was that, like,
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let's combine the two. I have the best of both
worlds in punk rock. Mentality as well is that we
don't have a record label. We have we signed with
a label out of Australia, but essentially the Midnight Devils
have booked everything ourselves. We've done all the touring ourselves.
We've financed everything, and we kind of told everybody else
to go eat it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know, like we're going to do this whether you
like it or not.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's I feel as a really punk rock energy that
isn't as prevalent in music today as it was before.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Well, let me tell you something. Right now, I'm talking
with an author tomorrow that's going to be that that
has a book out that's based one hundred percent on
the indie rock of the nineteen nineties, and I'm going
to bring it up. I said, you need to put
focus on where we are right now in music, because
these guys are putting more energy into music than what
they did in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I agree completely, and I've been telling everybody this.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I go. Okay, first of all, I'm a kid from Nebraska, right,
I grew up in Nebraska. But if we look at it,
in one year, the Midnight Devils will be celebrating ten
years as a rock and roll band, as independently funded,
touring rock and roll band that's hit thirteen, fourteen, fifteen countries.
We've been to Australia gonna be three times now, We've
gone to the UK, We've gone to Japan. But we've
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all done it by ourselves, and there's been nobody. There's
been no help, there's been no management, no record labels.
We are that, you know, we are the music industry
under ourselves, and I think that's really cool. We have
a really special place that we're carving out for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
The personal question is my hair is in the middle
of my back. You've got long hair as well. What
the hell do you do when that hair hits your
mouth and you're choking on it? You're out there on
that damn stage. Are you kidding me? Do you gotta
keep going? Don't you?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Now? It's that Yep? I do nothing. Wow, I just
let it go.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I always But the thing is, I always go back,
like in those moments. I remember those those pictures of
Gene Simmons completely covered in blood and hair, you know,
like on the it was maybe a live to the
back of a live too, yep, and where we're just
like completely covered. I was like, those are always the
coolest images. So I think, man, even if this is
uncomfortable for the second, it's gotta look great to the
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people out in the audience.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Dude, I bought I bought Beth because it was a
top song and because and my father did not like
rock in the house. But what I did was I
turned that Beth song over and there was Detroit Rock
City that challenged my life forever me too.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
That was the song that did it for me. It
was never the same after I heard that song.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And then to see him live, I mean I and
every time that I've seen them, which is like twelve times.
And I know they say they're retired, I'm calling bullshit
on that. They're not retiring too. They're gonna come back. Yeah,
of course they are, in.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Fact a matter of time, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But they'll do it without makeup or something like that,
and it'll be just spectacular.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
In my living room is a Paul Stanley original painting.
That's how much I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, that's incredible. I think I might. Okay, so I'll
cut the quick story here.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
The first tattoo I got was the kiss logo on
my ass. I had to hide it from my parents, right,
And my buddy was a tattoo artist. We were out
on the road and he did it, like on the tour,
tattoo kiss on my ass.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And then I have one on I got rock and Roll.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Over there it is there, it is yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So I got a few, a few good ones.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Are you a member of the Army, of course yes.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And I've talked to Bill Starky a few times too
like that.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's been like an overwhelming like, Hey, I'm the biggest
kiss nerd ever I get to talk to Bill Starky,
like the founder of the Kiss Army.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You've got to be able to step on that stage
the way that you do every night, knowing what you
have had experienced in your life and then what you're
going to bring to the next generation of music fans.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
What do we go What goes through my head.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
What goes through your head, what goes through your body?
What goes through your performance? Because when when you're on
the second you hit that stage, it's showtime.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
YEP, it all changes.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And we have been very, very blessed to be a
band that has played a million shows. And I love
that because it's really become a great muscle memory and
makes you such a tight band where you're gonna go
in and know that I have that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
We walk on stage knowing.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
That I'm I'm almost ninety nine positive that We're gonna
destroy every band out there. Like that's what I go
into it, thinking I can do that. I'm gonna beat them,
there's no problem. Like I can I can jump higher,
I can go harder, I can stream louder, and I
can do it every single.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Night of the week, no problem. Right.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So that's like my mentality going in is that I
want to show the guys that are younger and even
the guys that are older, like, hey.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Don't mess with me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Don't mess with them Midnight Doubles, because we can do
this and we can do it better than anybody else.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So when you describe yourself as the the glam slam
party rock band of all time, what is that introduction like?
Because you and I both have been inspired by by Kiss.
So do you sit there and say, the glam slam
party rock band of all time? Here they are Midnight Devils.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yep, all right, Japan right, yes, Slam.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's exactly you're you know exactly. It's like you're reading
my mind right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Now, God Almighty. And then and then that thing falls
and all of a sudden, the lamps are on you
and you're like the.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Greatest thing ever.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And so it is I mean it's like when you
say that though, it invokes in somebody's head a vision,
and I want to live up to that vision. And
then when they see it live, they go, you know what,
that is pretty glad slam party. And I had a
good time with those guys, like it all plays out.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So how do you feel when you are all dressed up?
Because to me, I mean because I belong to a
band called Painted Face in my teen years. Oh hell yes,
we were copying Kiss, but we were called Painted Face.
And the moment I put that paint on my face,
everything changed.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I it's like when the when the makeup gets completed,
or when the outfit, like more and more moments before
the show starts. I every ache and paign goes away,
every bit of tiredness that I have goes away. I
don't think of anything else. I kind of like my
smile changes, my body changes, I.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Get loose, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Just it's like this split and it doesn't stop even
till like back at the hotel, till it all comes off,
and even then it takes a long time to wear off.
But it's like this just the most intoxicating feeling, and
I can pretty much like I could run through a
brick wall and not feel a thing.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, but don't ask me what happened on the stage
because I won't remember it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I don't remember a thing, and I tell that.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
The hard part is is that we go like I
really like, I want to push it. I want to
see what my body can do. I want to see
how hard what my limits are to where on stage.
I'm thinking I might die, like I've that feeling a lot,
like I might collapse, I might fall over. You just
got to get through this. It's only forty five minutes.
You can get through this. And then at the end
I go oooh, we made it. But same as you,
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I don't remember any.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Forty five minutes. No, it's thirty seconds, dude, it's thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I remember nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Please do not move. There's more with Sam Spade from
Midnight Devils coming up next. The name of the album
is so Hard it hurts. We're back with Sam Spade
from Midnight Devils. So now, what is it like to
look out there at the crowd and people are dressed up?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It's incredible. I think it's like we're kind of doing it.
I don't even know if it's a revival or it's
a it's not. It's just an encouragement of creativity, an
encouragement of kind of fashion and art and style and
just all of these things that just make it beautiful
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and make life beautiful, and make just the story and
the evening and the moments that we have together beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, we can't.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know that there's like the punk rockers and the
glam rocker and the heavy metal kids and all these guys,
and when they all mixes together and it's just this
big mesh of smiles and people singing and dancing, like,
that's when it's the best.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I'll tell you what, I guarantee you that the people
of the seventies and eighties that we're making music have
got to be jealous of this moment of now because
they didn't have the inspirations of punk rock and everything
that you've got today. Because they were there, sure they
were inventing it, but they didn't have all all of
the choices that you have today.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
They didn't have the tools. Yeah, I completely agree. People
would be like, well, if you could go back in
time and do like I don't want to go back
in time, like I'm really really happy where we're at
right now because we get to be influenced. You're very
much right on the nose, Like we get to go
back and look at Motor Headed and old Aerosmiths and
all these cool bands, and then sprinkle all that into
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our like salad that we're making, you know, our musical.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Salad, our creative salad, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
All of those go into the pot and whatever comes
out is like that child.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So how do you react to see Steven Tyler in
a body that you didn't recognize as a fifteen year old?
I mean, because I mean it's yeah, I mean, the
only thing I can ever ever offer him is thank you, dude,
you have no idea. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I completely agree with you.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Like the even the new stuff that i'm seeing, what
he was out and I know his voice got heard,
but even the stuff that I'm seeing of him recently,
I'll go, it's really really good. And you go back
to the nineties and in the eighties and you're like, man,
he's on top of the game. He looks incredible, and
I think it still stands the test of time. His voice,
the songs, it's all so cool and it's so American
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rock and roll, and it's just.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Like, what what form it was? Like our formative stuff,
what formed us?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And I go back in I listened to it as
still as cool as that it was when I was
a sixteen year old.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm with Iron Maiden tomorrow and I know, I know
I'm going to bring this up tomorrow with him, that
I realize that they are the festival masters. But the
thing about it is, though, is that without American rock
music would they be the festival people they are.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, you're gonna you're gonna ask him that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh I have to. I have to because we're all
at that age where tomorrow might not happen.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yep, what a great question and what a cool way
to think about it. I don't know what they're gonna say,
the new wave of British heavy metal. The thing that
kind of strikes me is that we've been to Spain,
we've been to the UK, we've been to all these
cool places Belgium, and we've played with bands from France
and all this nothing compares and nothing hits like American
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rock and roll. It's a fact, it's a fact. I
don't care where you go. And this is like a challenge.
Even I've played with a lot of bands. I've seen
a lot of acts play American rock and roll hits on.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A whole different level. You have like a step above.
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, here's the thing. I mean, every time that I've
been with him, they've always said, Arrow, here's the thing.
It's about the people. They want. They want the sound.
You've got to give to the people. And when you
do that, you have a longevity in music. I'm going,
Jesus God, You've got it right.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's so true.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's like you gotta make your even if you only
have three fans, if you play your hand to those
three fans and have them eating it up and play
what they want and do the things that they want
and the things that make them happy, and we almost
know what those things are, like it's money in the
bank and that they're gonna love you for it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I just saw Zzy top like a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh my god, it was the coolest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Still to this day, Like how on paper guys with
beards from Texas playing rock and roll It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And girls are still going crazy for him.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
They're still playing their songs at the strip clubs.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Billy Gibbins and I spent some time together. And the
thing about it I love about his conversation was he
has arrow it's all about the car engine. It's what
it is, man, It's all about hitting like sixty five
to ninety on that car. And I'm thinking, you're so
damn right.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Oh, that's so cool, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like he is the he's just like I would love
I would love to spend time with him. He's just
like seems like the coolest dude. And it's just like
everything is so smooth.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
He believes that, you know, it's what we put into
our car engine and if you take that engine and
you take care of it, that then your music will
be taken care of as well.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
What a great analogy. And I've never heard of talks
like that before. And I'm gonna remember that forever.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So the new album is called so Hard It Hurts.
With every album, there are new lessons to be learned.
First of all, I would love to see your notes
from the studio, because we all make changes in the
studio and we don't have to agree with the engineer.
All the time, but I would love to know what
you learned by this experience.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
This was one of the coolest experiences of our lives.
Third album. Always nervous going into an album, like can't
we do this?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Can we write? Can't can we make songs?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
The second album was produced by Chips Up from Enough
and a Huge Thing Right gets on MTV. This one
was produced by Rick Browdie, who did the first Poison record.
Did Ted Nugent looked Double Live Gonzo like? So we
go down to Florida. I have this little book of songs.
We fly from Oma, Nebraska to Florida, Land there and
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we walk into his house and he's like, all right,
I'd like to go over the lyrics and we're going
to rearrange some of the lyrics.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
As a singer, that's a difficult pill to swallow. So
I walk into his office and he's got he's got
look what the cat dragged in platinum on the wall, right.
I was like, okay, well, and then he's got Ted
Double Live Gonzo, and then he's got def Leppard like
all these multiple multi platinum awards, and I was like,
he's like, now we're going to change the lyrics to
the songs, and I was like, it's no problem.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Whatever you think is gonna work sounds best to me.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, like you have to take that step back
because man, he's got the proof.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
The proof is right there, it's hanging on the walls.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Wow, have you ever talked with Ted Nugent? Because when
you do, he brings that damn guitar with him and
he breaks down everything about his music and you sit
there as a student going are you e f and
kidding me? I paid a lot of money to see
you live and I'm in this conversation for free.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I've never I've never seen him do that before. We
saw him with open for Hank Williams.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Uh guitar player. Man, so it's Ted.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Nugent opening for Hank Williams. Hank Williams Junior. So it's
bo Sefa's right, but it was. He comes out and
I'm just like, how cool? How cool could Ted Newgent be?
I mean, really, like we all know him, so Ted
he comes out, hits the first court. I'm like, this
guy's incredible, Like the sound was so it just blew
me away. Yep, He's sickening, and I'm just I'm in
love with Ted Nugent just those songs are so good
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and so classic.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, I'm three quarters deaf because of him. And that
was in the eleventh grade in high school. Because that concert,
with the moment he came out there on that stage
and hit that guitar, that wave of energy about made
me pass out.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
So my question was, I just brought this up the
other day. So when you look onto the Ted Nugent concert,
Ted had one side completely full of amplifiers, right yep.
And that was his side, plus the middle, and then
Derek and the bass player had white one side off
to this, and then the drummer. But then Uja had
the middle and his whole entire side. But he wasn't
even singing leeds.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
You know. It was so crazy. It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You guys recently performed in Gastonia, which is it like
like maybe even ten minutes up the road for me.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
We had a blast there. We were just there, I
want to say, two or three weeks ago. Yes, and
we're opening we're open for Trickster. Well, first time hanging
out with Trickster from New Jersey. It was really cool
and they were blasts, really really cool show.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wow, I mean to be in Gastonia and you were
this close to Charlotte, which is number sixteen when it
comes to the largest cities in America. You've got to
get your ass back into this town.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I'm not going to accept Gastonia, but we love.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It there that it's our second time we've been there.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Actually in Gastonia, and the bar is called the Rooster,
very very cool dive rock and roll bar like a necessity,
has a vinyl store connected to it, like one of
those good, good rock and roll bars.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So you did you learn the concept or the the
landscape of voke when you go to Gastonia. It's not Gastonia.
Welcome to gas Town, baby, get out here, let's make
some rock.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I didn't even know that, But thank you for telling
me that. I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You say gas Town, they will cheer so loud that
you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna pass out on stage.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Thank thank you for telling me that. I feel that's
a pro tip. I'm never gonna forget that. I appreciate
you telling me that.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Wow. So I'm very excited about your your ear merch
because I mean, you guys, with what you do on
stage and your merch. I mean, you've got to be
top one hundred percent. It's got to be collectible.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's one hundred percent collect phil And as a Kiss fan,
I think you can kind of relate. Like Kiss wrote
the book on how to be good merch merch dealers,
let's say it that way. Kiss wrote the book how
to make merch collectible. So I think with us, everything
is really really cool. Everything is great images. We grew
up in the era of the Misfits and and Kiss
with these great, great bands that had great imagery, Danzig
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stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So with ours, I always want.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
There to be great images that go along with the
songs and and the tours, and everything's kind of got
a sense of humor and that's very light and playful
and fun. But the album's coming out, like we just
re released some of our stuff, so it's coming out
like on on CD second pressing, there's vinyls.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
There's a new cassette that's going to be released. It
was like, wow, it's an all chrome cassette. Wow. I
just I'm like, I want to disco ball cassette. Can
we make that happen?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
They're like, yes, we got pink and greens blattered seven
inch vinyl that's coming out like some cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
See that for the nerds.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That for the nerds.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It is for the nerds. But the thing, the thing
about it is is that that's the reason why we
do what we do with the bands that we love,
because you take chances and we go, oh yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yep, because I know what I would like as a fan.
I know exactly what I want, Like, I want the
seven inch, I want to I want the weird stuff
I don't. I want the albums and everything like that,
but I want the more creative things.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But the limited edition.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Right right, okay, being Chris Kiss freaks like like we've
talked about. But does that mean does that also include
Motley Crue? Does that also include Poison? Does that include
the androgyny period where we were putting eye makeup on?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Absolutely? Yes, more than ever?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, yeah, because it seems to be that lost place
in history right now, and I just don't think we
need to do that. We need we need to embrace
that and bring it forward.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, And it would kind of puts the Midnight Devils
on an Island onto our ourselves. Is that there aren't
a lot of glam rock bands in the US anymore,
and there especially isn't a lot of glam rock bands
that are kind of taking what happened in the late
eighties and into the early nineties and that and continuing
that but pushing it farther. Right, So it was going
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a certain way, and we just are running with.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Us, right.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
So it's kind of this cool cross that is between
we love Sweet and Slave those seventies lambent through your golf. Yeah,
also love Poison. We also that really weird area. We
also love the peppermint careers, you know, So all of that,
you add all that up, We're like the next guy's
coming down the line where just we took it another
step farther, we went another step crazier.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
We want another step louder.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And we did it all ourselves, without any labels, without
any management, nobody telling.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Us what to do.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
All right, real guy question here, Okay? And and because
we both have long hair, do you wear it back
when you have to be dad?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
No? No, no, shut up. I don't have a really
good question. No tomorrow I have. I'm kind of like
a newer dad, right.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So I married, I just got married in May, and
my wife has two kids, one sixteen year old.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So we're going to football football started. He's a junior.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So we're heading to like the first week where we
put the decals.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
On the helmets.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yes, but it's all the dads get together and I'm like, oh, man,
like what do I wear? I gotta go get my
nails done, like they look terrible? But am I gonna
embarrass the kid?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
What do I wear? Kids stuff? Maybe everybody thinks it's cool.
I don't know. So it's gonna be interesting, dude. I
have tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I have a job at a grocery store, and it's
only because I want to be with real people. And
so when I walk in there with that long hair
and all that kind of crap, it's like, hey, man,
what's up? Tell me about you? Tell me about your
story because I want to write things about you and that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And that's I think it's kind of a nod. Because
I work at a bar as well. I'm a strip club,
see yep, And so I get addressed like this. I
get to be Sam Spade on the DJ at the
strip club. The show just carries on, but inevitably you
run into guys that are old rockers or they recognize
you're a rocker, and they'll come up and tell you
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the story. And that's what that's exactly what I want.
I want you to tell me. I want you to
talk to me about it, all.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Right, when you're talking about being a dj A at
a strip club. Okay, So back in the nineteen nineties
for a radio promotion, we had to be at a
male strip club every Thursday night. Are you male or female?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
We are female?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
But I have dj the mails the mail review a
few times and had an absolute blast.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Oh and they have egos.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yep, but the girls go crazy. The ladies aren't going crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Where can people go to find out more about about
Midnight Devils and get that merchandise? That to me is
so important because we've got to spread that across the nation.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Absolutely, it's at the Midnight Devils dot Com and you
go there place the order. Everything is ship from my
basement here in Nebraska, yes, to all points around the world.
We don't have a We will ship anywhere. And that's
exactly what it is. Is like, hit us up, talk
to us. We're very very personal on social media on
Facebook and Instagram and stuff like that, but really it's
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about having that connection with people and talking.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Dude, let me ask you a question. Being from Nebraska,
there are so many different musicians that have come from Nebraska.
Would you not see that's really the heart of rock
and roll.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It's really cool. It's a really cool place. I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I don't if it's not the heart of rock and roll.
It's like the crossroads because we're situated between Denver, Kansas City,
and Chicago, so everybody comes through Nebraska, everybody. It's a
central pipeline and everybody until it drives are too long
that people they always stop, and so we always get
great shows, we get great music, and it's cultivated quite
the music community here in Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Wow, when you come to the South, we've got to
get together for lunch so I can show you some
good Southern food and really give you an experience so
that when you hit that stage, you're gonna go Jesus.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I would love that. I love that. Thank you, I
appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Well, please come back to this show anytime, anywhere, dude,
because the door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Sam absolutely, And if you send me your address, I'll
get a CD in the mail. Sign from the guys,
and we'll get it sent to you and have it
for the office.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
God bless you. Please come back to this show anytime.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Man, Thank you, Eric, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Be brilliant today. Okay, all right, you too, man, thank you,
thank you.