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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Good morning, Clark, how are you doing? Absolutely fantastic. Before
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we even get started, we need to let listeners know
that this is coming in two parts, and they need
to put this on their Google calendar Thanksgiving Day as
well as on Christmas Day. That I love that because
you give me anticipation, and that's one thing we do
not have in this world today.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Anticipation.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Anticipation absolutely because this way then we can get part
one and then we can get part two later on.
I love that vibe because if we get everything right now,
well then we want everything right now.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, the binge culture, you can binge a little. You
can binge the first three, but then there's a cliffhanger
and you got to come back Christmas Day for the
next three.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But see, I love that cliffhanger. What was that like
for you to be in something like that, because I mean,
that's what they always said about the people of the
of the forties and fifties of those movies, they built
the cliffhanger. They knew how to do it. I think
we're doing a better job today, Clark. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's sortain of something that's you know, streaming,
and you know a lot of them are really kind
of like six eight ten episode long films, and the
way they keep people coming back is that they all
end with some form of a cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Which is funny because that's that's the way serials were born,
the radio serials. It's kind of been what's part of
broadcast storytellings from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's so funny that you bring that up about the
old days of radio, because one of the things that
they teach us in broadcasting is set up the appointment?
Did you set up the appointment?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Did you do the appointment? And that's all we do
is that's we think about that. How are we going
to set up the next appointment so that we can
build that cliffhanger to get them to come back?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes, the appointment being what.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
The appointment meaning that, Like, for instance, I'll give you
a good example, Hey, coming up next, Clark has a
brand new movie that's called The Artist and so so
then this way, then the listener's going, oh my god,
I know that guy. What is he up to?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, I say, yeah, that's very similar. You know, here's
the story, here's where the people are, this is the dilemma,
and all they have to do is this, and then
at the last minute, but then this happens, and then
if you want to know what happened next, you're going
to have to come back, that's right and make a
new appointments.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah. How how do you step into a period piece
and not want to stay there? Because I would sit
there and go no, no, no, no, no, I'm okay,
I like, what's going on here on this set? I
you know, this is what I want to do?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Were he freezing cold, very large, very large camels, and
a super uncomfortable wool outfit. It takes the edge of it.
But yeah, there is something about the glitz and glamour
of this early nineteen hundreds in New York of my
character A Oh, I guess he did. We can say
it now spoiler committed a murder at the incredibly decadent
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party on the roof of what was then Madison Square Garden,
and you know, there's a glitz and a glamour and
a wildness and jazz music and stuff where you feel
like you're back in that time.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Man, you talk about that glitz and glamour, and right
away it takes me to what I wanted to talk about,
which was the texture of everything that's going on. Because
there is a texture about this that when we see it,
we're going to go, oh, that's the artist. Oh, I
know that. Oh, because you're taking it someplace and it's
got a vibe about it that feels so authentic.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, it really does. What's the unusual unusual about this
is that the network is a new streamer started by
the people who made this show, Aaron Rappaport and Hillary Shore,
and you can download it for free and it's not
one of the you know, yet another show from the
other streamers that you know, it's a unique product and
they made this period piece that would have probably taken
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them ten years of development, and they just wrote it
and made it very quickly. And when you see it,
you kind of can't believe that because it looks spectacular.
You feel like you're there in the time.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Isn't that part of the reason why as creative people
we love this generation only because it seems like that, Okay,
if the platform isn't there, good, I'll go make the
platform and we're still going to get this project on.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, Charlie Chaplin started United Artists Well whatever, one
hundred years ago, and this is similar. I think what's
exciting about this and what a lot of these amazing
actors were drawn to, is the idea that an artists
and maybe a collective of artists could have their own
streamer and make projects that they're excited by without some
of the kind of corporate interference.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's a story of rebirth, and I think the music
helps guide us back through. It almost acts like the
time capsule. Do you get to hear this music long
before you step onto that set or is it something
that's like, Okay, this is what I envision, this is
what I need to do in this role. I'll let
the music people do the music.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Then, No, I don't. Almost never. There have been one
or two times when I've been on a set somewhere
and they'll say we're going to use something like this,
But that's really when you might need to be hearing
the music, you know, Yeah, more often you do. And
that's so true. In the scene in the Artists there
was a real jazz band there and they were playing
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so that one day I got to actually hear what
we were referring to.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You know, there's going to be something a part of
this that people musicians that are hiding in their houses
and in their bedrooms and things are going to be
watching this and they're gonna say, I think I can
do that. I think that I can really participate somehow,
some way in this storyline to where I can finally
come out with my creativity.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Oh I love that idea.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I hope that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, we're gonna have to because we get so you know,
involved in it, and that's the thing about it is.
And then when when the episode ins, you're going, what
the hell, No, I'm not ready for it to end.
I want this one to continue. Going on, give me
some more. Please go to the next episode.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, exactly right, we'll put.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Please do not move. There's more with Clark Grigg coming
up next. The name of the series The Artartist. We
are back with actor and writer Clark greg So, now,
you as a writer, what is it like to step
onto a set when you're using other people's words, because
I mean, as a radio talent, I'm a pig. I
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really am. I'm a snob. It's like, who wrote this?
Oh boy, Okay, I need to figure out what they
were thinking.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, sometimes that's really the case. It wasn't the case here.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
What Aaron wrote was great, it was great scripts ever
to everyone signed on. And then you know, when you're
making something fast and furious, a period piece in a
very very short shooting schedule, it really helps if the
writer's flexible. I'm willing to kind of change things to
fit the space you're in and what combat works and
what the camels are doing. And he was like an
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old pro that.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Way, I've ridden on the back of a camel. Why
that was? I don't know what's worse, the elephant or
the camel. I just know that it just did not
feel like the horses that I grew up on in Ranchester, Wyoming.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, I imagine it's different. I couldn't persuade the chemel's
I was working with to let me ride them. But
I'm jealous a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Now, what did you learn from a project like this?
Because once again, this is using the skills and the
technology that we have today inside the world of entertainment,
and because I mean you're bringing it to us inside
our homes, that means we get to escape thanks to
your permission that you gave yourself as an artist's.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, that's one of the things for sure. And I
think the other thing is, as we were saying, is
there's something really inspiring about seeing someone who, just because
of the technology we have, creates a show, a story
with his unique vision and delivers it directly to audiences
who can kind of cut out all the expensive middlemen
and just download the network on their Apple TV. Rokuan
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see what we made. And I think certainly I'm gonna
as someone who does some writing, I'm gonna go present
him with something that I'd like to try to make
and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I was going to ask you about that, because when
it comes to a writer, isn't our goal really to
be heard and not necessarily to be read all the time.
We want that voice to step out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, exactly right, you want, especially you know the film
and screenwriting, it's a three dimensional medium. It's not you know,
it's you can read them, especially if you know how.
But that's that's never really the point.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So now when you are writing, are you writing as
Clark or are you like me? And there's a third
party involved, and I just give them their space to
put that ink inside that page.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think it's a little bit of both personally, because
there's the artists the writer or who's kind of in
the stuff that I write, crafting a world and aware
of plot and what you're revealing to the audience when
but then you're also taking the point of view of
both people arguing in a scene, and for me, I
have to switch back and forth and give them both
their best shot at proving their point.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And what's so funny though, is that listeners and viewers
will never understand that you could keep going back to
that over and over again until you feel inside your
heart that you've perfected that argument. I never do, yeah,
because I've had wineglass moments where you come back into
the computer and it's like, uh, you know what, I'm
gonna be gutsy right now, I'm gonna go ahead and
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kill off this character. I'm good. If it's wrong, I'll
come back and change things.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
A lot of times you think you've really nailed it.
It's the perfect scene, better than anything that's ever been written.
And then you wake up and you read it the
next morning.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Do you get into music as well?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I listened to a lot of music. Is that what
you mean?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Music as well as writing it? Because the way that
you know that you perform on the show, I always
sit there and I and I can sit there and
I go, wait a second, he's got a vibe about
him that it's like you have music entertainment, you know
as well?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh that's interesting. No, I do listen. I mean, especially
in more emotional scenes. Okay, the Way In for me
is a playlist for sure. Some songs that really take
me to a place that I need to be a What.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Is that go to song? Minus Everybody Hurts from Ram?
I know that when I jump into that, I know
it's time for that emotion.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh wow, mind changes all the time. What are some
of the big ones? There's a couple of Byork songs
that just destroy it for some reasonet really Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, The York is still one of the most misunderstood
artists on the planet. I just wish people would just
go in and listen to her and really bring things
forward because I mean, it really is a work of art. Well,
like the Artist, The Artist is what it is.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Hey there you go? Yeah wow?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Where can people go Clark to find out more about
what you're doing and more about this project called the Artist,
Because once again, I love the fact that we can
download this, we can put it on the screen, and
like you said, it is free. We like that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yep. You can follow the network or the artist on Instagram.
You can follow me Clark on Instagram and I'm usually
posting whatever's coming out for me because I have a
fun relationship with people on there and them. You know.
You can also just on your device, you can search
the network and it will come up as an app
you can download for free.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Please come back to this show anytime in the future.
I want to. I want to see your writing in
an action drama or something so we can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Thanks, I'd like that too.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Okay, sir, you too, sir.