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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for being a part of the conversation. Let's
do some podcrashing. Episode number three seventy four is with
Samuel Donner and John Fry from the podcast Okay, Storytime, Good,
How are you good? Fantastic? Tell me how this idea
for this podcast came into being, because so many times
when you sit down with other podcasters, it comes from
out of a whim or it's just like, well, I
was driving down the road and I thought, well, what
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the heck, let's go for it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, John and I had been on a couple different
shows together and they had canceled our last show and
were like, what are we gonna do? And we had
this idea to give good advice goofly on the relationships
that matter most. Posted that little clip of us giving
advice on a listener submitted story, and it got like
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a million views on TikTok, and we've posted a video
every day since that day in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's right, Are you shocked by the reaction that people
are giving you, because I mean, this is the kind
of stuff that people tap into and they and then
they take your stories and grow with them.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think initially we were like
a little surprised.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Pretty pretty florid.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I mean, the very first video posting getting like a
million views was kind of a shock, Arrow, but.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We just kind of ran with it. I feel like,
you know, the John Sam team is a pretty strong team,
and we've just been going through crazy story trying to
give like the best advice we can. We actually have
a crazy story to share with you from a recent episode.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We jump him.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
If you're ready for it, let's go for it man,
all right, Well, one listener submission was kind of crazy.
They asked, my husband cheated on me with two women.
He wants to stay together because he has cancer. Should
I say, Arrow.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I've got to ask, what do you say?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Way, more to this story, but more contexts. But my
partner told me when we first got back together that
he has cancer and his operation doesn't go well, it
could be terminal. He's currently living with his mom while
he's in recovery, so that takes the pressure off me
caring for both him and our baby until he is
well enough to move into our new home with us.
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So I feel like, you know, they're kind of working
around some bad news, yeah, trying to make it work well,
last week he had an attempted breaking. I asked my husband,
who was supposed to be at his mom's, to come
over and change the locks, but he wouldn't because again,
break and you want to make sure you're home safe.
Then his mom told me he wasn't with her. I
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went to Facebook and it took me less than an
hour to find the first two women he was cheating
on me with.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Now ero, I hope it's a lot. Do you think
there's more? Do you think there's more under the iceberg
of insanity here?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yes? Yeah, yeah, there's more than two. I you know,
in my heart, I feel that there's This has been
going on for a while.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well, we have a segment on Okay Storytime called the
conspiracy Theory. Do you have a quick conspiracy theory that
you or an ICU as we call it, you want
to throw out a quick one for us?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Codependent? I believe he's codependent and he needs to be
surrounded by people at all times.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I think you may be right. I think he may
be right. Save wandom from arrow. But we got more
from this listener. So they say one thing my paranoia
just wouldn't let up about was his cancer and his treatments.
I asked his mom about it, who told me he
doesn't have cancer. For me, he was in rehab, not
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the hospital. He suffered from addiction and was trying to
recover for me and our baby.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
What are you thinking right now?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Erow, we just got once again. Guys are scumb I mean,
he's proven it right there. Man, he's giving us all
a bad name.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I know, I know, maybe it'll get better, Arrow, I'm
not hopeful. But the listener goes on to say, I
never mentioned to him that I knew about cancer. I
assumed it was the embarrassment of wanting to get clean
without me knowing, so he could be a good partner
and dad. I was so proud of him for getting
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that help that I never spoke about the fact that
I knew he was lying about the cancer.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I mean, Aaron, do you think that's something that we
should be proud of right now?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That he's not proud, well, not proud. But the thing
about it is that he's not This this relationship is
not all by itself. I mean, how many families are
really going through this? This isn't he knew, no.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
No, no, I mean we get stories like this on Okay,
story time. I mean, ever, all day day it's it's
so many people are going through this, and I think
a lot of this stuff, you know, a lot of
these these relationshipships happened because it's not that you don't
have clear communication. You have people with low self esteem
that are willing to accept love that they do not deserve.
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You know, like I think you need to accept love
that you do deserve, not a bunch of lies being
fun as love.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, because forgiveness is everything, and and you know, when
you can't forgive anymore, what happens? I mean, Oh my god,
that that right there, those the towers are coming down.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, but we got we got more
to the story.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
There's more. But wait, there's more.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So with his autoimmune disease, his mom explained how brutal
it has been for him. Then he did have chemo
a few years back, so maybe that's why he's confused. Confused,
you know, it's cheating. Yeah, I don't know what I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh my god. You know what you're proving here, guys,
you're proving that that that to be in this present
place of now, there has to be a story beforehand
and you're bringing that out and so that we can
all go really and I mean, I mean it's and
then the then you go, whoa, well, how is he
going to live happily ever after?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know if this man will live after, hoping
the author, I'm hoping the author will put up some
boundaries and say, I am not going to accept this
kind of love.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
That's right, learning from the mistakes and you know, self respecting,
self caring our way to a better life.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
As the author goes on to say, pregnancy brain is
a real thing. Or maybe I'm just too blindly loved
because I accepted this and never questioned again. But after
discovering the first two women, I sent my partner a
message telling him to let his other girlfriend know I'm
asking after her and to not bother coming home anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Oh my goodness, my god, my god, this could be
a soup opera. You send this into general hospital.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I mean, Sam kind of looks like George Clooney.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Movie Nights are coming soon. Yes, but yeah, they're just
saying she's confused. I mean, I'm glad that she's finally
putting up some boundaries. This is great, starting to see
the growth here. Yeah, so she goes on to say,
I've had the locks changed from the break in so
he can't get in. When he panicked and started begging
me to answer the phone and let him see me
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so we could explain everything. He's got a lot to explain.
You know, you can explain it all away. I started
to see everything through clear eyes for the first time
and realized how long he had been gaslighting me, and
for the first time told him, no, Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
My god, my god, my god. You know you think
he got it here in the South, that nobody would
have put up with this. I mean she would have
had him out or dead by now.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So crazy thing ar is, Like Sam said on Okay Storytime,
we get submitted story submitted every single day with people
in this same scenario where it's so hard for them.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Break out of the reality. You know, like their reality
is warped around them by this person that maybe is
good with words, can like kind of manipulate them into
a corner, and they often for the first time see
how that it is when posting the story or getting
feedback from the show. And so we're kind of trying
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to pull people out of these bad situations. Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The story continues to grow, don't Move. We've got more
with Samuel and John coming up next. Hey, welcome back
to my conversation with Samuel and John from the podcast
Okay Storytime. You know what I love about what you
guys are doing with with Okay story is the fact
that it really does come across as a radio bit.
But the thing about radio is we only have so
many minutes to put this thing together, where with you guys,
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we're getting the full story, We're getting the full experience.
I would love to see how people are reacting to
what you guys are doing in the car or at work,
because I'm sure they're not keeping it to themselves. They're
sitting there making sounds that are just unbelievably funny.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, you know what's awesome about Okay story Time is
it's not just a podcast. It's a live show that
you can watch on iar, you could watch on YouTube.
We go live every single weekday for like six to
eight hours. So we get some reactions from our fans,
and don't worry, they are similar to what we're expressing
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right now.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Wow. So are you guys going to be on the
comedy circuit in the way that because the comedy zone
here in Charlotte allows the podcasters to come in and
they do their shows from their stage.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
We have thought about doing live shows. It is something
that we're looking at in the future. But right now
we got our virtual stage on the live on YouTube
and then we have this beautiful podcast with iHeart. So
if any of our listeners are interested, go check out
Okay Storytime podcasts. Wherever you get your podcasts?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Where do you how do you prep? Let's go that route.
Where do you prep? And how do you prep? Because
I'm a propriate a show prep whoreor I've got to
be ready to go at all times? How are you
guys doing this?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Honestly, I feel like we've at this point going live.
You know, I don't know the radio world, but in
the live stream world like we do on the Okay
Storytime YouTube again, six to eight hours straight sometimes, so
I think we've just learned. You know, it's seven am
over here right now.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think we just learned to turn this on snap in.
We channel it through a higher power. It keeps through us.
But if we have more time, we have more of
this story.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Please hear it. But wait, there's even more.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Basically an our episode on the podcast. There are updates
upon updates. But realizing he couldn't get through to me
and now where I was trying to contact his girlfriend,
he panicked and went to her instead. During that time,
I found a photo she had shared of the two
of them and shared it to my profile with the
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caption can someone please ask this woman to contact me?
She instantly blocked me, but her sister got in touch
with me instead. Family affair, family affair. Apparently the whole
family never trusted him and knew something was wrong. The
affair is serious enough to have met the family. She says.
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He has told her not to speak to me as
I'm a deranged stalker. He slept with once years ago,
and I've been hunting him down, trying to convince people
my baby is his well. I sent her a photo
of the birth certificate in us in the hospital gather
to show her sister before he can lie to her anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We got the receipts.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
We got the receipts important to carry, the receipts for
manipulators and gas laguers like this.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
The most critical tool in your arsenal, the arrow in
the satchel, the paper trail.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I mean my god, I mean, it's it's all there,
and then and then to unveil it what there's got
to be more guys.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
There is So during this also messaging another woman another
woman again, another woman that is in this cheating Webb
who is furious at what he has done and is
helping me with all the information she is aware of.
She tells me he broke her heart by cheating on
her without even knowing he was cheating on me too.
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And the author has constructed a cheating time timeline that
goes years back, and so this is the current timeline.
So he had chemo and March question mark, and there
was a nineteen year old rehab in April through July,
a woman of an appropriate age this time, but also
cheating on her August to now his twenty year old girlfriend.
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And then I find out his emergency cancer medication that
he had to leave while I was in the middle
of labor. He had to get this cancer medication. While
she was in the middle of labor, had two failed epidurals.
She was screaming in agony, begging the doctors to help
because she thought she was dying. The emergency team was
rushing in to place extra monitors on our baby in distress,
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and he's like, oh, I got to leave for my
cancer medication. Well, leaving to get the cancer medication was
actually to go sleep with a twenty year old before
making it back just in time to kiss me before
I went into emergency surgery.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So aaro, is this husband of the year material right here?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah? It is.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Anyone want this guy? Oh man, oh man. But again
it just keeps going. So this was Sunday, it is
now Saturday in the following week, and I made a
post on Facebook calling out my partner for his actions
with photographs, medical notes, and evidence, and asking people to
leave me alone until Tuesday, after forty eight hours of
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no sleep, multiple calls to crisis teams, and a barrage
of harassment from his friends and family who want to
sue me for defamation of character.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Oh my god, they want to sue there.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Could you imagine arrow? No? No, no, it just keeps
getting deeper and deeper here. It's almost like a war zone.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, And I think at this point the author is like,
you know, this affects me, but what about all these
other women?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But what is there?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
More?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So goes on. I think I think I think, get
there on the head. If this was a regular affair,
I lick my wounds and move on. But I have
now learned I have been leaving my daughter alone with
an addict who is claiming he doesn't know me or
his daughter, but demanding custody. Writes to me, Now, tens
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of women. Tens that's what. No, not ten women, tens
of women I've now pumped forward who have also dated
him during our relationship, with no idea of me or
each other. This is obviously really upsetting, But what upsets
me the most is that I begin to notice a
very worrying pattern. He has told every single one of
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these women that he has cancer and can't get them pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Playing off the emotions. There you go, Okay, the.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Emotion gas lighting with nuclear fuel. The flame is engulfing
cities at this point.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, this guy's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, he's like, I can't get you pregnant. I'm only
with you no protection. I think that's how this baby
ended up in the mix. Man is the the worst.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So I said, what was the one thing that kept
you know, he had to have felt something inside his
heart to go back to the original woman, you know,
I mean, to stray out so far and then to
keep coming back.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think he just wants to have as many options
as possible. I'm curious. He went back to our author initially,
but then as soon as she shut him down, he
was like, onto the next.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
One, Who's who's available.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I think that's all he's doing. That's all he's doing.
So Arthur says, I said, my labor and delivery was difficult.
I was induced to an infection I had. My GP
told me I had an SDI, and though I understood
and took the treatment and was induced by madly loved
pregnancy brain, ever accepted it was an SDI until I
went back this week and checked my hospital discharge notes
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and it was in big bold letters sensitive Partner SDI.
So the hospital knew where.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Else would I would I have come from?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
From walking around the hospital. You know you can pick
up things on the floor. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
it's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So apparently he's been telling women that he has cancer
and can't get the pregnant so they don't need protection,
which led to an STI which almost killed me and
his daughter in labor. And he wasn't even there to
be with us because also he has cancer.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
What was his dude's career? Was he in radio?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't know? Sting up a story, up the story
and also the time management. I mean one thing he
can do is advantaged time. Yeah, that secret. Everything else
let's let's get rid of. But that secret we can
learn from.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Wow, where can people go to find out more about
what you guys are doing? Because this is brilliant, this,
this is emotional, This is drama.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is drama. But also again we
try to give good advice, goofully on some of these
really dramatic places and really let people end up just
so we can like increase people's self esteem and also
make our pew people communicate early and often. But yeah,
if you want to find us, you can go to
the Okay Storytime podcast.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, we're on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts wherever you
listen to your podcast Okay story On podcast. We're there
for you, guys.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
We're gonna try to help you out.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, navigate life and all it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, please come back to this show anytime to share
more stories.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We would love to errow. That would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
We appreciate Will you guys be brilliant today. Okay, we'll
do him here.