July 19, 2025 • 18 mins
Pod Crashing episode #379 with Israel Gutierrez from the podcast Dub Dynasty. A narrative podcast hosted by Israel Gutierrez, covering the behind-the-scenes story of the NBA's latest, and maybe last dynasty. The show examines the Golden State Warriors' indelible impact on basketball and the challenges the franchise overcame to become one of the greatest dynasties in modern sports. Plus, we will look ahead to the next chapter in their incredible journey as the Warriors continue to push for success during the 2024-25 season Episodes available here: Https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-dub-dynasty-271490656/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for coming back to the conversation. Let's do
some pod crashing. Episode number three seventy nine is with
Israel Guterreth from the podcast dub Dynasty. How are you
doing today, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm doing great er.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
How are you fantastic?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I gotta tell you something, dude, Stefan Curry has been
a part of our lives here in Charlotte for a.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Very long time.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
In fact, that Curry family has been part of our
life for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
M m.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
But you know, there, as soon as I saw this
on the list, I was like, Okay, this makes a
lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But you know what's really interesting though, is that we
only think that we know more about Stepan. And the
thing is is that you really do open up the
book and give us some insight that I did not know,
and especially you know, the thing is is that just
the fact that how it all came together. First of all,
Dale Curry was in my studio so many times. Never
(00:51):
once did Dale say anything that he didn't want his
son to go to Golden State.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah. No, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Very interesting just to hear so many different voices on
Steph speak about Steph is because it always came down
to he's such a nice person, just a you know,
a gentle soul, just an honest, you know, it's a
goodness like great guy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And when you think back to then, yeah, of.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Course they weren't going to let that out right, They
were going to try to be as subtle with that
as possible. But it also makes perfect sense, like I'm
not sure you know how Dell necessarily thought of the
Golden State Warriors, given that you know, he had experienced
the league obviously, but folks in North Carolina, let's say,
folks in Charlotte, like NBA fans would have at the time,
(01:47):
looked at Golden State as a place where, you know,
guys' career not necessarily go to die, but maybe go
for a quick pop and then you know, leave somewhere else,
right because you're not going to get success there. And
you know, who knows, maybe Dell saw something that we
all maybe we're seeing a little later, and that knew
how great Steph would be and knew he'd you know,
(02:09):
want him in just the right scenario, with the right coach,
with the right front office. And so I understand him saying, hey, please,
you know, trying to maneuver and manipulate it however you can. Hey,
please don't draft my son. I'd love him to go
somewhere else, given the history of this organization. But you know,
just happens to get very fortunate that a lot of
changes happened within two or three years of Steph arriving,
(02:32):
ownership change and then obviously the Steve Kirk coaching change,
which all of it seemed to be such a great
fit for Steph.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like a player.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Friendly organization right where they trust the players to make
right decisions. Well, that's great for Steph because he's very
trustworthy and you know, in that sense a good leader.
And then you know, having Steve Kerr, somebody who had
been coached by two of the greats and had a
really great idea on how to sort of unlock Steph,
(03:00):
and frankly wanted to draft Steph when he was with
the Phoenix Suns, and so yeah, it all ended up
being a great fit.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But I totally understand where Dell was coming from. Early on.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I got to tell you, we here in the Carolinas
with our Charlotte Hornets, we were kind of you know,
we lost out on Kobe Bryant, and it was like, well,
why can't Steph come and be with us right now?
Why can't we do this? You know, it's one of
those things where it's like we still believe he's our guy.
He's our guy. No matter what team he's on, he's
our guy.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, And I love that feeling. I totally understand that feeling,
you know, with and this is a little bit different
because it's a professional player. But you know, in Miami,
people feel like no matter what Dwayne Wade does, no
matter where he goes, no matter what team he owns
a part a part of he will always be a
Miami person, even though he's not really a Miami person.
(03:48):
He's a Chicago person. You know, I personally have an
affinity for the Thompson twins right now in the NBA.
Not just because they're great kids and I was able
to be around them for a while, but they went
to high school in Fort Lauderdale, like five minutes from
where I'm at, so from where I live, So I
get that feeling and what a great person to be
(04:09):
attached to. Right like this, there's you can do no
wrong by attaching yourself to Steph Curry, and it's you know,
it's almost like a secondary fan base for the Warriors
or wherever Steph is because of I'm sure how much
North Carolina loves him.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, even when he was at Davidson. I mean when
when we would watch him do those three point shots,
that didn't shock us. And the reason why is because
when Dale Curry was brought into the game and he
would always tighten up his his his drawers, and all
of a sudden, here came that shot. It's it's like, yes, yes,
that is the son of Dale Curry. I mean that
that's the kind of tradition that that has happened here
because of this family.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
The funny part is is we all say, you know,
nobody really saw this coming from Steph. We just he
was very enjoyable to watch in college, but there were
signs the entire time. It wasn't just he was in
enjoyable to watch, like he was carrying a team that
had no.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Business, you know, being as far as it was.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And then I forget who the coach was, but you
had the one game where he was doubled the entire
game and went scoreless, but the other coach was just
happy to you know, lose a game by twenty but
still keep Steph scoreless, Like, that's the type of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You don't see from great players, no matter how.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Great they are. You know, nobody did that to Zion
Williamson when he was at Duke. So yeah, Steph, is
is just a phenomenon. And it's you know, when you
tweaked the hamstring the other night, I was like, Oh,
that's the one thing that could just, you know, really
break everybody's heart, is something that is so out of
his control and so delicate, like a hamstring. But you know,
(05:41):
if I've learned anything about the Warriors, they will at
least fight long enough to have him see the court again.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
See.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I was going to ask you about that because, in
my heart, as much as I like Michael Jordan, it
took the entire team. And when I heard that about
Steph this week, it was like, Ah, don't you go there.
It's going to take the entire team to make this happen.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, yeah, it will.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I just the only unfortunate part about it is that
it's not like it's the well oiled machines of the
Warriors past, because you know, you've got Jimmy who is
such an integral part to them right now, and then
even the other pieces haven't really been through the fights.
A lot of them haven't, you know, Kaminga has and whatnot.
But you know, Brandon Pajemski hasn't, and Quinton Post hasn't.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And so you still have people that you know, you
don't know how they're going to react in the moment.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And so it's a lot of pressure on Durraymond, a
lot of pressure on Jimmy, a lot of pressure on
you know, like I said, Moody, even Moody, even Kaminga
now who seems to be solidly back in the rotation
and and you know, fittingly because he's been playing well.
Those guys need to summon something that they that they
did in the twenty two season and try to, you know,
(06:49):
win at least one game, like I said, extemd this
thing to six and hope that Steph can come back
and look like as normal self.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
One of the greatest things about your podcast, dub Dynasty
is the fact that you are not afraid to step
back into the past. Because I did not know what
happened in nineteen seventy five, but you introduced that to
me so early in the storyline that all of a sudden,
I'm starting to see a foundation take place.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, and that's the that's funny because I knew of it, right.
I knew of that gap in time because the run
TMC Warriors, I think I said it in the first
episode was just kind of the team that made me
fall in love with the NBA. And so I've been
a Warriors fan since I was, you know, twelve, thirteen
years old, But I'd known that there was this large
championship gap and you didn't realize some of the details
(07:32):
of that story though, And that team wasn't even supposed
to be, Like Al Addams was kind of a little
bit of a rebel that year and wasn't really given
what he wanted, so he sort of pieced together this
team and said watch what I do.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And then Rick Barry.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Was absolutely carrying that team through you know, the finals.
They had to play their first two games or home games,
in the cow Palace because their arena wasn't ready right
for an NBA final.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So it's just wild.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And yet you know, they had this crazy, real good
story from back then when the NBA was probably at
its lowest in the mid seventies, and then you know,
nobody remembers it and then they go on this forty
year drought and then you know a lot of things happen.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
In between that just break up really fun teams.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And so you know, it just it almost is like
a rebound effect that you would see. You know, they
were so bad, so inconsistent, so frustrating for so long
that now it's almost like I deserve this.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Whatever it's been ten plus a year stretch.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Please do not move. There is more with Israel coming
up next. Hey, thanks for coming back to my conversation
with the creator of the podcast dub Dynasty. I tell
you what, I giggled like a child though when I
found out that the the Warriors weren't going to play
in their home arena, because I mean, it just showed
how powerful Sesame Street on Ice really was.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It's like, this is our house. Stay out of our house,
children first.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So for non Warrior fans and people who just kind
of just kind of jump into the NBA world when
it went the playoffs are on, who are the Splash
Brothers and why are they part of the story.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Splash Brothers are Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. And now
the nickname itself comes from the old Bash Brothers of
the Oakland A's where it was Mark Maguire and Jose
Canseco and they would you know, bash their forearms after
to celebrate home runs. And there was a somebody who
wrote for the website, the team website who or did
(09:26):
social as well, and just had that hashtag during one
of the games, I want to say, in Charlotte, and
you know, everybody on the team loved it and they
just kind of stuck with them. And they're just two
arguably the two best shooters of all time. You know,
nobody argues with Steph, but I would say that Klay
Thompson might be the second best shooter of all time.
He probably has the prettiest jump shot of all time,
(09:50):
you know, and he has some of the most ridiculous
records in NBA history because of that, not just because
of that jump shot. It's because of that jump shot
and the combination of the Warriors offense was just impossible
to stop. But fourteen three pointers in a game, he
holds that record by himself, and he did that in
I want to say, twenty eight minutes of play Wow
(10:11):
in Chicago. He's got the thirty seven points in a quarter,
which again I don't know if that's going to be matched.
If you think about projecting that out, that's you know,
one hundred and thirty seven points for.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
An entire game.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And he's got the sixty points in twenty nine minutes,
which might be the wildest of them all. Sixty points
in twenty nine minutes of play, which again you project
that out, he easily would have been able to take
a run at Kobe's eighty one.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And this is their third option right when the team
was at its peak.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And so it is it's crazy that the Splash Brothers is,
you know, sounds like a cute nickname, but they might
be the most deadly backcourt of all that might be
they are the most deadly backcourt of all time.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
What they were able to do.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Klay Thompson, like I said, he was a luxury, but
when you needed him, did he ever come up here?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Huge? And so yeah, those are the Splash Brothers.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So how do you digest what we have seen in
NBA history? Because I mean, my days go all the
way back to Kareem Abdul Jabbar and then and look
at everybody that followed. And it's like if I sit
down with somebody who's just getting into the game, and
I'm going, you have no idea. I realize that Steph
is brilliant at what he does, but come on, I mean,
Kareem abdul Jabbar, and then to see how down to
(11:23):
earth and real that man is and how much he
loves his community. What is it even Steph loves his community.
It's such a part of what they do.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, I was, you know, I was on this kick
a couple of weeks ago about if there was one
person in the NBA or in sports who was an alien,
my money would be on Steph because the way he
controls the basketball is a way that nobody else in
the world does, and he somehow, like I said, or
like you've said, finds a way to be this sort
(11:53):
of ideal human being.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And so.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I don't know exactly how to explain it, but I
will say that if you really look at what he
has done so far and you just assume he'll finish
his career with the Warriors, you assume he'll finish his
career with Steve Kurris's head coach, there isn't really a
player you can project. I mean, maybe even Dirknovitzki back
(12:21):
in his day, didn't really establish himself as the star
of the Dallas Mavericks for a few years in his career.
But to project a player of Steph's caliber to play
for one organization for his entire career, and I know
he played for multiple coaches, but to finally land on
one ideal coach for the majority of your career and
(12:41):
the majority of your winning and to build an entire
not just offense around you. But then the way everybody
says it changed the way you look at the game,
all while you know, collecting championships, all while wanting, you know,
having other players want to play with him. You know,
(13:02):
the level of Kevin Durant like he is. And let's
just project a little bit, okay, because I think toward
the end, if he doesn't win it this year, which
is perfectly possible, I wouldn't bet on it, but he
could win it this year. But let's say he gets
one more and gets tys Kobe's say he gets two
more and ties Michael Jordan, we're talking about top five
(13:23):
player ever. Yeah, And I think at that point you're
probably discussing him in the top three player ever, and
you're throwing out everything about defense.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh by the way he's led the league and steals.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Before and you're throwing out everything about, oh, what he
can't do, because everything that he can do has been
magical and completely entranced a viewing audience for like more
than a decade. So whatever they need to know about
the NBA, they if they just learned about Steph Curry,
they'd learn a lot more than they need to know.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So has there ever been another player? And maybe this
is just because we're all from the same city here
that I mean, I just when I see Steph and
I see his older face with the beard and stuff
like that, I don't see that. I still see him
as that punk little kid that was going to basketball
camps and his father sponsored and stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He's still that little boy in our hearts.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, And I think you know, the joy that he
plays with projects that you know, childish joy.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Just genuine love of the game that he plays with
all the time. And you know, that's kind of what
I mentioned, such a perfect pairing with Steve Kerb part
of you know, what he teaches and what he installs
in players as hey just play with a joy because
it's his fun.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You're very fortunate to be where you're at.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And so I think that message has gotten across and
they've been able to, Like, I don't think any other team,
any other pair of people humans in the NBA would
have been able to team with Draymond Green as long
as they have and get the best out of him
and still be able to, you know, as much as
they can, I guess, deal with him in a way
that you know, everybody benefits. Obviously there's some times where
(15:05):
it gets a little out of control, but it probably
would have been a lot worse if he wasn't around.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Steph Ckurr and Steve Kerr.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know one name that we haven't brought up, but boy,
oh boy, you do remind us of it so much
inside the podcast.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Steve Nash, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
He was the player that people thought Steph Curry could be,
at least those who projected him highly and thought highly
of him, and pretty sure everybody would say he's surpassed him.
And so it's you know, it just goes to show
you you can never really tell who who's going to
be that level of great, you know, in an NBA draft.
(15:41):
I mean, Johnny Flynn got drafted before Steph Curry did.
So yeah, he's been He's been so special. And again
that's why I was so bummed out to watch to
see the hamstring injury and hope he gets back. But
you know, for those who think he might only have
a couple three years left, you got to cherish these
last few years because he amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I've had a hamstring injury in taekwondo and I also
did mi groin and when they say that you've got
to be out for six to eight weeks, that means
six to eight weeks. So I'm really excited to find
out how this guy's going to get his butt back
out on that floor.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he'll do everything necessary. I think
you know, the grade one projection is maybe ten around
ten days. Well, hopefully hopefully he can get back if
they can force a game six. But you know you're
just crossing your fingers right now because he is thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I would like to be part of a research group
where they where you go, where people listen to the
first episode of your podcast and all of a sudden,
Brent Musburger's voice comes in there, because every grown man
is going to sit up straight and they're going to
have every memory from their childhood come to life.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, and I mean I got goosebumps listening into it
over again, just because it's not just Brent. You go
to get down the line, whether it be a Marv
Albert clip or yeah, you know, an old Mike Breen clip,
it does. It does bring back some memories.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think that's what's so great about what you're doing
with dub Dynasty. And of course, you know, as a
fan of what you're doing right now, I gotta ask,
are you going to do other teams, other players?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
There's going to be a follow up, right, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I don't think there's you know, we haven't planned ahead
very far because these things are big time projects.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yes, and.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know there is the year that we did the
Miami Heat podcast. That was the year they had the
run to the finals as an eight seed. So far,
the Warriors are making a run as a seventh seed,
and if they continue this run, I believe every team
in the league is going to want to us to
do a podcast. And so in that scenario, let's just
(17:38):
pull for the Warriors here and then see how many
teams get desperate.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You are such the fan, Oh my god, you are
such a fan. Where can people go to find out
more about what you're up to and so they can
check into your entire career.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, right now I'm at metal Arc Media, so that's that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'm doing a podcast, an NBA podcast called Oddball with
a Meelas and you can find it anywhere. You find
your podcast right next to The Dynasty at Meadow Larks,
So that's the Dan Levittart Show is the primary show there.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So you might see me on that program a few times.
And yeah, just.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Trying to keep connected with the NBA, the sport I love,
and you know, doing projects that are a lot of
fun like this one.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Please come back to the show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Will you'd be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, all right, you as well
Hey, thanks for coming back to the conversation. Let's do
some pod crashing. Episode number three seventy nine is with
Israel Guterreth from the podcast dub Dynasty. How are you
doing today, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm doing great er.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
How are you fantastic?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I gotta tell you something, dude, Stefan Curry has been
a part of our lives here in Charlotte for a.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Very long time.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
In fact, that Curry family has been part of our
life for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
M m.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
But you know, there, as soon as I saw this
on the list, I was like, Okay, this makes a
lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But you know what's really interesting though, is that we
only think that we know more about Stepan. And the
thing is is that you really do open up the
book and give us some insight that I did not know,
and especially you know, the thing is is that just
the fact that how it all came together. First of all,
Dale Curry was in my studio so many times. Never
(00:51):
once did Dale say anything that he didn't want his
son to go to Golden State.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah. No, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Very interesting just to hear so many different voices on
Steph speak about Steph is because it always came down
to he's such a nice person, just a you know,
a gentle soul, just an honest, you know, it's a
goodness like great guy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And when you think back to then, yeah, of.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Course they weren't going to let that out right, They
were going to try to be as subtle with that
as possible. But it also makes perfect sense, like I'm
not sure you know how Dell necessarily thought of the
Golden State Warriors, given that you know, he had experienced
the league obviously, but folks in North Carolina, let's say,
folks in Charlotte, like NBA fans would have at the time,
(01:47):
looked at Golden State as a place where, you know,
guys' career not necessarily go to die, but maybe go
for a quick pop and then you know, leave somewhere else,
right because you're not going to get success there. And
you know, who knows, maybe Dell saw something that we
all maybe we're seeing a little later, and that knew
how great Steph would be and knew he'd you know,
(02:09):
want him in just the right scenario, with the right coach,
with the right front office. And so I understand him saying, hey, please,
you know, trying to maneuver and manipulate it however you can. Hey,
please don't draft my son. I'd love him to go
somewhere else, given the history of this organization. But you know,
just happens to get very fortunate that a lot of
changes happened within two or three years of Steph arriving,
(02:32):
ownership change and then obviously the Steve Kirk coaching change,
which all of it seemed to be such a great
fit for Steph.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like a player.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Friendly organization right where they trust the players to make
right decisions. Well, that's great for Steph because he's very
trustworthy and you know, in that sense a good leader.
And then you know, having Steve Kerr, somebody who had
been coached by two of the greats and had a
really great idea on how to sort of unlock Steph,
(03:00):
and frankly wanted to draft Steph when he was with
the Phoenix Suns, and so yeah, it all ended up
being a great fit.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But I totally understand where Dell was coming from. Early on.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I got to tell you, we here in the Carolinas
with our Charlotte Hornets, we were kind of you know,
we lost out on Kobe Bryant, and it was like, well,
why can't Steph come and be with us right now?
Why can't we do this? You know, it's one of
those things where it's like we still believe he's our guy.
He's our guy. No matter what team he's on, he's
our guy.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, And I love that feeling. I totally understand that feeling,
you know, with and this is a little bit different
because it's a professional player. But you know, in Miami,
people feel like no matter what Dwayne Wade does, no
matter where he goes, no matter what team he owns
a part a part of he will always be a
Miami person, even though he's not really a Miami person.
(03:48):
He's a Chicago person. You know, I personally have an
affinity for the Thompson twins right now in the NBA.
Not just because they're great kids and I was able
to be around them for a while, but they went
to high school in Fort Lauderdale, like five minutes from
where I'm at, so from where I live, So I
get that feeling and what a great person to be
(04:09):
attached to. Right like this, there's you can do no
wrong by attaching yourself to Steph Curry, and it's you know,
it's almost like a secondary fan base for the Warriors
or wherever Steph is because of I'm sure how much
North Carolina loves him.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, even when he was at Davidson. I mean when
when we would watch him do those three point shots,
that didn't shock us. And the reason why is because
when Dale Curry was brought into the game and he
would always tighten up his his his drawers, and all
of a sudden, here came that shot. It's it's like, yes, yes,
that is the son of Dale Curry. I mean that
that's the kind of tradition that that has happened here
because of this family.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
The funny part is is we all say, you know,
nobody really saw this coming from Steph. We just he
was very enjoyable to watch in college, but there were
signs the entire time. It wasn't just he was in
enjoyable to watch, like he was carrying a team that
had no.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Business, you know, being as far as it was.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And then I forget who the coach was, but you
had the one game where he was doubled the entire
game and went scoreless, but the other coach was just
happy to you know, lose a game by twenty but
still keep Steph scoreless, Like, that's the type of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You don't see from great players, no matter how.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Great they are. You know, nobody did that to Zion
Williamson when he was at Duke. So yeah, Steph, is
is just a phenomenon. And it's you know, when you
tweaked the hamstring the other night, I was like, Oh,
that's the one thing that could just, you know, really
break everybody's heart, is something that is so out of
his control and so delicate, like a hamstring. But you know,
(05:41):
if I've learned anything about the Warriors, they will at
least fight long enough to have him see the court again.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
See.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I was going to ask you about that because, in
my heart, as much as I like Michael Jordan, it
took the entire team. And when I heard that about
Steph this week, it was like, Ah, don't you go there.
It's going to take the entire team to make this happen.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, yeah, it will.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I just the only unfortunate part about it is that
it's not like it's the well oiled machines of the
Warriors past, because you know, you've got Jimmy who is
such an integral part to them right now, and then
even the other pieces haven't really been through the fights.
A lot of them haven't, you know, Kaminga has and whatnot.
But you know, Brandon Pajemski hasn't, and Quinton Post hasn't.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And so you still have people that you know, you
don't know how they're going to react in the moment.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And so it's a lot of pressure on Durraymond, a
lot of pressure on Jimmy, a lot of pressure on
you know, like I said, Moody, even Moody, even Kaminga
now who seems to be solidly back in the rotation
and and you know, fittingly because he's been playing well.
Those guys need to summon something that they that they
did in the twenty two season and try to, you know,
(06:49):
win at least one game, like I said, extemd this
thing to six and hope that Steph can come back
and look like as normal self.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
One of the greatest things about your podcast, dub Dynasty
is the fact that you are not afraid to step
back into the past. Because I did not know what
happened in nineteen seventy five, but you introduced that to
me so early in the storyline that all of a sudden,
I'm starting to see a foundation take place.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, and that's the that's funny because I knew of it, right.
I knew of that gap in time because the run
TMC Warriors, I think I said it in the first
episode was just kind of the team that made me
fall in love with the NBA. And so I've been
a Warriors fan since I was, you know, twelve, thirteen
years old, But I'd known that there was this large
championship gap and you didn't realize some of the details
(07:32):
of that story though, And that team wasn't even supposed
to be, Like Al Addams was kind of a little
bit of a rebel that year and wasn't really given
what he wanted, so he sort of pieced together this
team and said watch what I do.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And then Rick Barry.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Was absolutely carrying that team through you know, the finals.
They had to play their first two games or home games,
in the cow Palace because their arena wasn't ready right
for an NBA final.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So it's just wild.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And yet you know, they had this crazy, real good
story from back then when the NBA was probably at
its lowest in the mid seventies, and then you know,
nobody remembers it and then they go on this forty
year drought and then you know a lot of things happen.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
In between that just break up really fun teams.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And so you know, it just it almost is like
a rebound effect that you would see. You know, they
were so bad, so inconsistent, so frustrating for so long
that now it's almost like I deserve this.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Whatever it's been ten plus a year stretch.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Please do not move. There is more with Israel coming
up next. Hey, thanks for coming back to my conversation
with the creator of the podcast dub Dynasty. I tell
you what, I giggled like a child though when I
found out that the the Warriors weren't going to play
in their home arena, because I mean, it just showed
how powerful Sesame Street on Ice really was.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It's like, this is our house. Stay out of our house,
children first.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So for non Warrior fans and people who just kind
of just kind of jump into the NBA world when
it went the playoffs are on, who are the Splash
Brothers and why are they part of the story.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Splash Brothers are Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. And now
the nickname itself comes from the old Bash Brothers of
the Oakland A's where it was Mark Maguire and Jose
Canseco and they would you know, bash their forearms after
to celebrate home runs. And there was a somebody who
wrote for the website, the team website who or did
(09:26):
social as well, and just had that hashtag during one
of the games, I want to say, in Charlotte, and
you know, everybody on the team loved it and they
just kind of stuck with them. And they're just two
arguably the two best shooters of all time. You know,
nobody argues with Steph, but I would say that Klay
Thompson might be the second best shooter of all time.
He probably has the prettiest jump shot of all time,
(09:50):
you know, and he has some of the most ridiculous
records in NBA history because of that, not just because
of that jump shot. It's because of that jump shot
and the combination of the Warriors offense was just impossible
to stop. But fourteen three pointers in a game, he
holds that record by himself, and he did that in
I want to say, twenty eight minutes of play Wow
(10:11):
in Chicago. He's got the thirty seven points in a quarter,
which again I don't know if that's going to be matched.
If you think about projecting that out, that's you know,
one hundred and thirty seven points for.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
An entire game.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And he's got the sixty points in twenty nine minutes,
which might be the wildest of them all. Sixty points
in twenty nine minutes of play, which again you project
that out, he easily would have been able to take
a run at Kobe's eighty one.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And this is their third option right when the team
was at its peak.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And so it is it's crazy that the Splash Brothers is,
you know, sounds like a cute nickname, but they might
be the most deadly backcourt of all that might be
they are the most deadly backcourt of all time.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
What they were able to do.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Klay Thompson, like I said, he was a luxury, but
when you needed him, did he ever come up here?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Huge? And so yeah, those are the Splash Brothers.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So how do you digest what we have seen in
NBA history? Because I mean, my days go all the
way back to Kareem Abdul Jabbar and then and look
at everybody that followed. And it's like if I sit
down with somebody who's just getting into the game, and
I'm going, you have no idea. I realize that Steph
is brilliant at what he does, but come on, I mean,
Kareem abdul Jabbar, and then to see how down to
(11:23):
earth and real that man is and how much he
loves his community. What is it even Steph loves his community.
It's such a part of what they do.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, I was, you know, I was on this kick
a couple of weeks ago about if there was one
person in the NBA or in sports who was an alien,
my money would be on Steph because the way he
controls the basketball is a way that nobody else in
the world does, and he somehow, like I said, or
like you've said, finds a way to be this sort
(11:53):
of ideal human being.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And so.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I don't know exactly how to explain it, but I
will say that if you really look at what he
has done so far and you just assume he'll finish
his career with the Warriors, you assume he'll finish his
career with Steve Kurris's head coach, there isn't really a
player you can project. I mean, maybe even Dirknovitzki back
(12:21):
in his day, didn't really establish himself as the star
of the Dallas Mavericks for a few years in his career.
But to project a player of Steph's caliber to play
for one organization for his entire career, and I know
he played for multiple coaches, but to finally land on
one ideal coach for the majority of your career and
(12:41):
the majority of your winning and to build an entire
not just offense around you. But then the way everybody
says it changed the way you look at the game,
all while you know, collecting championships, all while wanting, you know,
having other players want to play with him. You know,
(13:02):
the level of Kevin Durant like he is. And let's
just project a little bit, okay, because I think toward
the end, if he doesn't win it this year, which
is perfectly possible, I wouldn't bet on it, but he
could win it this year. But let's say he gets
one more and gets tys Kobe's say he gets two
more and ties Michael Jordan, we're talking about top five
(13:23):
player ever. Yeah, And I think at that point you're
probably discussing him in the top three player ever, and
you're throwing out everything about defense.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh by the way he's led the league and steals.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Before and you're throwing out everything about, oh, what he
can't do, because everything that he can do has been
magical and completely entranced a viewing audience for like more
than a decade. So whatever they need to know about
the NBA, they if they just learned about Steph Curry,
they'd learn a lot more than they need to know.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So has there ever been another player? And maybe this
is just because we're all from the same city here
that I mean, I just when I see Steph and
I see his older face with the beard and stuff
like that, I don't see that. I still see him
as that punk little kid that was going to basketball
camps and his father sponsored and stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He's still that little boy in our hearts.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, And I think you know, the joy that he
plays with projects that you know, childish joy.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Just genuine love of the game that he plays with
all the time. And you know, that's kind of what
I mentioned, such a perfect pairing with Steve Kerb part
of you know, what he teaches and what he installs
in players as hey just play with a joy because
it's his fun.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You're very fortunate to be where you're at.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And so I think that message has gotten across and
they've been able to, Like, I don't think any other team,
any other pair of people humans in the NBA would
have been able to team with Draymond Green as long
as they have and get the best out of him
and still be able to, you know, as much as
they can, I guess, deal with him in a way
that you know, everybody benefits. Obviously there's some times where
(15:05):
it gets a little out of control, but it probably
would have been a lot worse if he wasn't around.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Steph Ckurr and Steve Kerr.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know one name that we haven't brought up, but boy,
oh boy, you do remind us of it so much
inside the podcast.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Steve Nash, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
He was the player that people thought Steph Curry could be,
at least those who projected him highly and thought highly
of him, and pretty sure everybody would say he's surpassed him.
And so it's you know, it just goes to show
you you can never really tell who who's going to
be that level of great, you know, in an NBA draft.
(15:41):
I mean, Johnny Flynn got drafted before Steph Curry did.
So yeah, he's been He's been so special. And again
that's why I was so bummed out to watch to
see the hamstring injury and hope he gets back. But
you know, for those who think he might only have
a couple three years left, you got to cherish these
last few years because he amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I've had a hamstring injury in taekwondo and I also
did mi groin and when they say that you've got
to be out for six to eight weeks, that means
six to eight weeks. So I'm really excited to find
out how this guy's going to get his butt back
out on that floor.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he'll do everything necessary. I think
you know, the grade one projection is maybe ten around
ten days. Well, hopefully hopefully he can get back if
they can force a game six. But you know you're
just crossing your fingers right now because he is thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I would like to be part of a research group
where they where you go, where people listen to the
first episode of your podcast and all of a sudden,
Brent Musburger's voice comes in there, because every grown man
is going to sit up straight and they're going to
have every memory from their childhood come to life.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, and I mean I got goosebumps listening into it
over again, just because it's not just Brent. You go
to get down the line, whether it be a Marv
Albert clip or yeah, you know, an old Mike Breen clip,
it does. It does bring back some memories.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think that's what's so great about what you're doing
with dub Dynasty. And of course, you know, as a
fan of what you're doing right now, I gotta ask,
are you going to do other teams, other players?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
There's going to be a follow up, right, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I don't think there's you know, we haven't planned ahead
very far because these things are big time projects.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yes, and.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know there is the year that we did the
Miami Heat podcast. That was the year they had the
run to the finals as an eight seed. So far,
the Warriors are making a run as a seventh seed,
and if they continue this run, I believe every team
in the league is going to want to us to
do a podcast. And so in that scenario, let's just
(17:38):
pull for the Warriors here and then see how many
teams get desperate.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You are such the fan, Oh my god, you are
such a fan. Where can people go to find out
more about what you're up to and so they can
check into your entire career.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, right now I'm at metal Arc Media, so that's that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'm doing a podcast, an NBA podcast called Oddball with
a Meelas and you can find it anywhere. You find
your podcast right next to The Dynasty at Meadow Larks,
So that's the Dan Levittart Show is the primary show there.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So you might see me on that program a few times.
And yeah, just.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Trying to keep connected with the NBA, the sport I love,
and you know, doing projects that are a lot of
fun like this one.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Please come back to the show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Will you'd be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, all right, you as well
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