August 17, 2025 • 20 mins
Pod Crashing episode 382 with Joshua Rosa from the podcast Made For The Mountain. Made For This Mountain exists to empower individuals to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, this podcast is a reminder that the mountain in front of you was never meant to break you-it was meant to build you. Our mission is to awaken the unstoppable strength within each listener, helping them conquer what once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of themselves.Because you weren't made to be buried by your mountain-you were made to climb it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for being a part of the conversation. Let's
(00:01):
do some pod crashing. Episode number three eighty two is
with Joshua Rosa from the podcast Made for the.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Mountain Great, how's everything? Are you?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Absolutely fantastic and looking forward to sharing a conversation with
you because we need leadership like you. And the reason
why is because I think people are seeing their mountains
and they're ignoring their mountains, and you're going to show
us that, Hey, look we need to be a little
bit more authentic with those mountains.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah. No, I absolutely agree. That's the whole premise behind
the podcast is looking at the things that are in
front of you and not and not making them more
powerful than in you. So that's the whole whole hope
with it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
One of the biggest battles that I have is I
call it writing the story before it happens. How many
times are we stuck in that moment where we know
something is coming up and we try to write that
story and then say, oh, I was just trying to
prepare myself, but yet it was all evil thinking.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, that's called the self fulfilling prophecy. So it's when
you speak over yourself and the things that you're going
to do, and then you limit the possibility of anything
else because it's happened before, and we think, oh, because
I failed before, I'm going to fail again. Or I
can't do this thing because of my environment or my finances. Again,
those are all mountains that we look at and we
just identify them as like the pinnacle of everything, so
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we don't do anything.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
When did you realize that it was time to start
sharing your knowledge? Because I'm a daily writer of thirty
two years and writing to me is everything. But you've
extended your outreach here to reach other people.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, yeah for me. So a kind of a long
wind the story there, but just to give you the
short end of it, I decided I started doing media stuff, right,
So I was like, I can't tell people that I
can help them grow their their reach or their marketing
or their branding if I can't do it for myself.
So I decided, you know, to do that for myself,
and within I want to say, the first twelve days,
I grew my social media counts to about ten thousand followers.
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Now we're a little closer to like six seventy over
two platforms, and the biggest takeaway there. The reason that
I was like so motivated to do that was because
I was getting all the positive feedback how people were
receiving something through something so small as a video, as
an Instagram or TikTok or whatever, a video that was
just there, and I was like, Wow, this is amazing.
So it was very edifying to be able to reach
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people through that platform, and that's kind of what drove that.
And a year later, here we are with a podcast
that's aiming to do that thing, just at a grander scale.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, the one thing that I love about podcasts is
that I think it's more one on one than radio.
And the reason why I say that is because I
think radio is for a group of people, whereas what
you're doing on your podcast, you know that person sitting
in the front seat of their car or they're at
the officeit and they're going, I hate my job, I
hate myself, blah blah blah. Oh I got to get
Joshua in my earbuds.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I firmly agree with it. I think that that's
the biggest separation there, because it's like it's specialized towards
what you're in and I firmly take that all the time,
the theory of the one. So it's not about the masses,
because the masses will get served when they get served.
It's the one person that really needed to hear something
to say, like, that's the person that I'm aiming for.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
How do you keep it off yourself? Words? You know
a lot of these subjects are things that you might
have been going through, but yet through writing and through
careful thought, you have kept it off yourself and you
make us feel like that we are the ones that
are to receive.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well. Yeah, So the first of all, that's awesome, because
that's that's a good that's the goal. It's never to
be self centered, it's to be serving centered. So I've
made it intentional where there's conversations that I've had with
people or things that people have asked me that I
might have been able to elaborate because of the time
or just how often I get messages and stuff like that.
So I would take those things and I would and
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I would use those things as the center point for
everything where I understand that if that person is going
through it, first of all, that's the person I want
to reach. But also people are similar to that, and
there are people that I'm going to bring on the podcast.
Right now, I'm kind of just you know, set of
the groundwork where I want it to be personal and
I wanted to build that relationship with people before I
bring anyone else in. But the goal goal is going
to be to share the story that most people might
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have identified with and said that they weren't able to
and then show them that it is possible.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Do you think that we're living in an age where
the songwriters of today I love to be some Taylor Swift,
but my god, I mean, you hear about breakups and
you know, stoned love and all that kind of stuff.
It's it's like they're giving us permission to just bring
out our pain. Is that good?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, so it's a it's a double edged story because
obviously they make money off of that, so there, Yeah,
their goal is always going to be to capitalize on hurt.
I think that it's good to be aware. It's bad
to make it your life. So it's good to know
that these things are happening. It's good to know that
there's a reality of it, that you're not alone, that
there's all the premise of it. But it's terrible when
you make that the central point of everything you do.
(04:36):
And again they hope harp on that one subject because
that one subject is an issue, but they don't obviously
the musicians, so it's a little different, but they don't
ever help people get over the issue. It's more like,
let's just bathe and miss together.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
One of the things that I'd love to watch are
people who what I call it popping, when they finally
realize there's light and less weight, they pop and all
of a sudden they've got a different view in life.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. I think that that's
a I mean, that's why we should all aim too.
And that doesn't mean also, like so doesn't mean that
everyone's like that all the time. Because we have seasons
right to the seasons where we feel really up and
motivated and elevating, there's seasons where we feel down. But
it's being able to distinguish that a season doesn't define
a life. So knowing that I'm in this now doesn't
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mean that's who I am forever. That's the whole goal
of growth.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, but Joshua, I'm the freak that will sit there
and identify the season and say, okay, who is visiting
me from the other side because we need to talk
here because there are certain rules that you've got to
abide by if we're going to make it through this season.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I mean, so, I sorry so that that's a very
specific one because there are people that that are going
to look for an answer always. The reality is that
there isn't always an answer, Like sometimes there are just
things that are happening and you just have to be
able to ride that wave or understand, let's take back
to the analogy of a mountain. Understand that you're just
in a different level of the mountain, that it's still
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the same mountain. It's just a different plateau. It might
be a beautiful view and beautiful, beautiful scene, but you
still have more to go. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
One of the things I learned in becoming a third
degree black belt is my Sobbanim would always say. He
would say, you've got a mountain in front of you,
go up that mountain and take it down one rock
at a time. That's all you can handle. And I
get that vibe from Made for the Mountain.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah yeah, I mean, but that's the best advice you
could have ever gotten, because that's the reality. We can't
take everything on at once. That's why so many people
overwork and they're so tired and they have lots to
bear because they think that they have to fix everything today,
And that's not how it works. It's little by little,
little increments, little steps that make the big.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Picture learning how to awaken the unstoppable strengths on the inside.
Oh my god, how do we wake them up? And
how do we keep them on alert because we're coming
after him.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah. So I think that a lot of people don't
look at this proponent of this because we again we
look at problems or mountains, we look at them as
a big, one, big, overall solution.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The whole goal of amounted is to make you better,
Like it's to make that premise of this because this
might be the one thing you're facing, but that's transferable
to everything else. So you might struggle with this here,
but it doesn't mean it doesn't transfer everything else in
your life. So when you're awaken that, when you're aware
of who you are, of the gifting of the ability
of what was made in you, what you were made for,
it transfers to absolutely everything. And I think it changes
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how you perceive things, like we know that you know
life is fleeting, is short, and it changes that perspective
of how you address the problems.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Getting beyond fear. I mean sometimes people are traumatized, but
the thing is, though, you've got to get beyond the PTSD.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean fears. That's fear is useful when
you know how to use it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So what happens for a lot of us is we
let that kind of ruminate, We let it just run
its own narrative, its own story, and that's what we
lose control. That's where people become so afraid to move
because that one story is the one story they believe,
like we said in the beginning, right, the self fulfilling
prophecy component of it, where you believe that this is
going to be bad, So you know what, you're gonna
make it bad. You're gonna self sabotage where you can.
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You're going to make sure that this thing that you
are predicting to fail to be terrible is the thing
that you're going to fail and be terrible in.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So why is it that Maybe it's just because of
how old I am, but it feels like that the
younger generation is upset. I thought that was for the
older people in life, you know, you were supposed to be,
you know, curmudgeons and things like that. It feels like
the twenty one year olds are the curmudgeons these days.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, so I'm a millennial, so I'm on the other
side of it. I would kind of get both of
the best of both worlds and the worst of both worlds.
But statistically speaking, statistics actually show us that Gen Z
is coming generation, or the older generation now they are
the highest level of depression and anxiety in the history.
So it's it's a really tough tough thing to bear
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because it's a reality. But that's the truth of the matter.
And again, we can blame so many things. There's so
many factors. We can say, well, they're the first generation
that's completely immersed in social media and technology and all
these things. But I think it's at a deep value.
I think that generations before them were taught to have
this almost like self resilience, like the self desire to
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be better in them, and this generation has been taught well,
somebody else is going to solve it for you. So
it's become a handicap, like they can't move in because
they think that, oh, someone else at someone else's problem,
they have to resolve it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You are so right about that, because as a department leader,
I you know, it's always like aro arrow er Arrow,
And I feel guilty when they're consistently saying my name
and asking me to come over, because that's how I
treated my parents. Mom mo mo mo mo mo mom.
And it's like, oh my god, come on, let me go.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, they're looking for somebody to walk them through things. Now,
I'd be completely honest. I do see a little shift
in that because I do work a lot with young people,
so I do a lot of like church ministry stuff
and the travel as a speaker for that, and I
do see a shift that's happening, which is interesting in
the country where there are this this servant leadership thing
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that's coming up specifically young boys, which I love to see,
which is an indication of a society. Will tell you
how their men step up, So the way they look,
the way they act, the things they do appropriately, that's
indication of how good our society is or the struggles
that we're having. But I do see that upswing, which
is very at least personally nice to see. Well.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I think that's because of people like yourself, who are
stepping out there saying Okay, I'm listening, but you've got
to become activated as well. We're going to work at
this together.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's the premise of the mountain itself, right,
it's like, yeah, we could, I said, I think. I
say it's like an episode three or something, we talk
about healing or one of those things, and I mentioned
the fact that we won't We won't heal until we
choose to do the things that are difficult, the small
things that we have to do for that thing to happen.
It's not just you can hear a thousand podcasts, you
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can read a thousand self help books, you can go
to therapy every single day, but nothing's going to change
if you don't do anything about it. So it's the
reality where you have to take some personal responsibility of
changing and growing. There has to be a level of
desire and action for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, you talk about that activation when you say that
there are five things that we should ask ourselves when
we're ready to give up.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, yeah, because that's the premise of it. Like a
lot of us give up because somebody told us we
had to write we think that we can't do the
things like obviously, I'll be completely honest with you, I
never thought that podcasting was a thing like I don't
think this was like you know, I said, I do
well on social media. I'll stick to my like TikTok
and stuff because that's where some of the bills are
getting paid. But it was never like a wow, I
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can talk to people and there's a premise of it.
So for me, I had that. I gave myself that
that limiting belief that handicaps saying that this is not
a reality and love and behold here. I am in
the reality. But I think a lot of people still
still live in that. They stay in that they don't
make the progress and anything else. Because that's it again,
we're going back to self fulfilling prophecy. You believe you
can't so you don't do, not move.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
There is more with Joshua Rosa coming up next. Hey,
thanks for coming back to my conversation with Joshua Rosa,
host of the podcast Made for This Mountain Dude. Let's
be honest here. You talked about going to church and
things and helping out with religious groups. You know you've
been called to do this, this is the new church
because it's one on one and God is working through
you to reach them.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's using my gifting appropriately, right
Because so again as excited I speak, I do. I've
been in arenas with five thousand people in rooms with thoughts.
It's it's not it's never about the number of people.
It's about the one. It's about the person that we're reaching.
So being able to use this as a platform that
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says that I'm helping someone somewhere do something, that's that's
what all that matters at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Don't you love that feeling when you talk about, you know,
being in gigantic arenas or even being with even five people,
that feeling of no matter what, it's not talking at people,
You are sharing with people. And I love looking in
people's eyes and to me that that's the connection between
you know, you're the only one here. I realize there's
a lot of other people here, but you're the one
that we're talking to.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, no, I think that, But that should always be
the goal, right, Like when we do those things, it
should be that we want to reach that person. Yes,
you can impact you might not be it was a
a Teresa cut Cutters. She said, you might You might
not change the whole world for you might not change
the who world for everyone, but you might change one
person's whole world. So the goal is always that one
person that you are going to affect and change in
a way that's going to do something for them. And
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even again, it doesn't have to be like this grandiose
change in their whole life. But if there was something
that you helped them realize and face, you've done what
you were meant to do.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Do you believe that winning is a choice.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
That winning is a choice? I agree with that statement,
I think I think the fact yeah, I actually firm
agree with that, because the difference between winning and failing
is that you choose to give up winning. If you
don't give up, you were winning, that's it, that's you.
You're significantly better than you were yesterday. You know the
mistakes you made, that's a little bit of improvement. When
you fail and you choose to stay on the failure,
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that's the only time you're actually choosing something. So I
think winning is yeah, winning is a choice. Doing the
thing you have to do consistently, knowing that there is
a chance of things happening and believe in it. You know.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
One of the things that people who tend to hide
the thing is is that people like you and I
we see them and and and we know what they're
going through, but we can't really approach them. But we
need them to come to us. But I mean, what
we how can we get into that process of a
hider and give them the confidence to step out?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think stuff like this. I mean, obviously podcasting is
like a big, big switch, a swing in the current
time we're in. Being able to just be consistent in
that messaging of you know, of self will, of self desire,
knowing that there's something more, and that that premise that
you are capable, despite the things that you have believed,
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being able just to get that message out. I think
that's the most important thing that we ever do for
those people, because reality is that most people won't approach us,
but if they hear the message, it might be something
that approaches them.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah. Yeah, let's let's let's be creative here for a second.
In the way of your background music that I call
that frequency music, is that is that what you're actually using.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Not always I just depends the thing. So my actual
like the podcast itself. The beginning my one of my
best friends who I call my cousin because we're Dominican,
and somewhere down theline someone's married. He is a professional musician,
so he's on tour right now with an iHeart artist
actually funny enough, and he he was like, oh, I'll
do it for you, and I was like, cool, appreciate
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it and just put it together for me. But I'm
a really big fan of lo fi, so you kind
of use that as a sample for that, But I
do think it does have a a premise for that.
Like music itself, it's it's natural to us, the language
that we all speak. So it definitely is a tool
in there.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, definitely, because you know, because what the thing about
it is that I've always been taught you can only
hear one thing at a time. Well, your music is there.
But it gives me the opportunity to listen to you.
I'm still you know, directly in contact with what you're saying.
It's just that that music says it's okay, I'm gonna
be right here. You've got a foundation.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, it helps also like just calm us down, you know,
it's not the depending of the genre you listen to,
you're gonna feel different emotions. So that's the whole goal
with lo fi and like those soft beats is just
to keep you at peace knowing that you're welcome there.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, all right, the big battle this is bigger than
the w WE. Motion versus movement. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a big, big takeaway there
because a lot of people are doing a lot of things.
They're moving a lot, but they're not they're not changing.
Nothing's actually moving forward. There's no motion. So that that's
one of the big questions that we asked, are you
actually doing something or are you just making yourself tired? Ye?
Ye ye.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know what I compare that to is that, you know,
when someone says I'm trying, I'm trying. The first thing
that I do is I grab a writing instrument, I
put it on a table and I say, try to
move that pan. Well, they move it. I said, I
said try to move that pan. I didn't say move
that pin. Try to move it. And so what they're
learning is that when they say I'm trying, no move
do it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Again, that's a great analogy. It's easy to say you're trying,
but it's very, very different when there's action, because that
whole saying actionally speak louder than words. I'll believe what
you're doing more than what you're saying because I see
you actually doing it, and it takes us back to
that that reality where again you're going to hear a
thousand podcasts and nothing's ever going to change if you
don't actually do the thing.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You suggest that we name our mountains. I mean that's
almost like naming a hurricane.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a great analogy to itself, because if
you know the name of the hurricane, at least you
know what there's the damage. So in the mountains, that's
the truth is knowing that this is the thing that's
causing this problem, and that allows you to be able
to identify it and heal it ultimately be able to
actually step into that thing and say, well, this is
the problem, so I'm going to fix it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Is it easy to identify a trigger, because I mean
that's one of the things that I do. I do
a d frag journal every day where I ask myself
the questionestion and then question the answers because I want
to identify the triggers.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly perfect. That's exactly who we should
be doing. It's knowing that what is it that's causing
this because for a lot of us, our triggers are
more based on an emotional memory than it is an
actual fact. So we remember how we felt, not so
much what it was, and that's where our brain compiles.
It starts like building on that. It says, well, you
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felt like this, so it must have been this, this,
and this, and then you go down this rabbit hole
of things that you aren't questioning. But that's what happens
when you let those things be rampant, it doesn't change.
So yeah, absolutely being able to question those things and
knowing what those things were and why you felt that way,
and then being able to address that. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I did some research today for a show that's going
to be up on iHeartRadio today, and it was based
on that we're all supposed to be living in the present,
and yet the preacher people they sit there and preach
from a book that was about two thousand years ago.
Man to do the research on that, I learned so much,
And that's what I wish people would do. When you've
got questions do the freaking research.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, yeah, don't just assume, because that's saying you make
when you assume. I don't know if I say the words,
but you know that old saying. You don't actually know
what you're talking about. You're just speaking from a perspective
and not in a fact.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Where can people go to find out more about you, Joshua,
because I want them to follow you, I want them
to support you, and I want them to help spread
your word.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I appreciate it. We have made for this mountain. It's
on every platform, so it's on iHeartRadio, on Apple podcasts
or wherever you get your podcasts, and on social media.
I'm just underscore Joshua Rosa. One of my biggest flexes,
as we call in our culture, is that I can
always say you can google me, you can google my name,
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but ignore there's another Joshua Rosa that didn't do some
nice things. So I'm not that Joshua Rosa. He's in jail.
I'm here, So this josh Rosa is very different, So
if you google me, just know that it's a different
person there with my name. My SEO has been doing
great lately, so we've been getting a little better but
still I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Please come back to the show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you, Joshua.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay, thank you so much.
Hey, thanks for being a part of the conversation. Let's
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do some pod crashing. Episode number three eighty two is
with Joshua Rosa from the podcast Made for the.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Mountain Great, how's everything? Are you?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Absolutely fantastic and looking forward to sharing a conversation with
you because we need leadership like you. And the reason
why is because I think people are seeing their mountains
and they're ignoring their mountains, and you're going to show
us that, Hey, look we need to be a little
bit more authentic with those mountains.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah. No, I absolutely agree. That's the whole premise behind
the podcast is looking at the things that are in
front of you and not and not making them more
powerful than in you. So that's the whole whole hope
with it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
One of the biggest battles that I have is I
call it writing the story before it happens. How many
times are we stuck in that moment where we know
something is coming up and we try to write that
story and then say, oh, I was just trying to
prepare myself, but yet it was all evil thinking.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, that's called the self fulfilling prophecy. So it's when
you speak over yourself and the things that you're going
to do, and then you limit the possibility of anything
else because it's happened before, and we think, oh, because
I failed before, I'm going to fail again. Or I
can't do this thing because of my environment or my finances. Again,
those are all mountains that we look at and we
just identify them as like the pinnacle of everything, so
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we don't do anything.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
When did you realize that it was time to start
sharing your knowledge? Because I'm a daily writer of thirty
two years and writing to me is everything. But you've
extended your outreach here to reach other people.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, yeah for me. So a kind of a long
wind the story there, but just to give you the
short end of it, I decided I started doing media stuff, right,
So I was like, I can't tell people that I
can help them grow their their reach or their marketing
or their branding if I can't do it for myself.
So I decided, you know, to do that for myself,
and within I want to say, the first twelve days,
I grew my social media counts to about ten thousand followers.
(01:48):
Now we're a little closer to like six seventy over
two platforms, and the biggest takeaway there. The reason that
I was like so motivated to do that was because
I was getting all the positive feedback how people were
receiving something through something so small as a video, as
an Instagram or TikTok or whatever, a video that was
just there, and I was like, Wow, this is amazing.
So it was very edifying to be able to reach
(02:09):
people through that platform, and that's kind of what drove that.
And a year later, here we are with a podcast
that's aiming to do that thing, just at a grander scale.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, the one thing that I love about podcasts is
that I think it's more one on one than radio.
And the reason why I say that is because I
think radio is for a group of people, whereas what
you're doing on your podcast, you know that person sitting
in the front seat of their car or they're at
the officeit and they're going, I hate my job, I
hate myself, blah blah blah. Oh I got to get
Joshua in my earbuds.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I firmly agree with it. I think that that's
the biggest separation there, because it's like it's specialized towards
what you're in and I firmly take that all the time,
the theory of the one. So it's not about the masses,
because the masses will get served when they get served.
It's the one person that really needed to hear something
to say, like, that's the person that I'm aiming for.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
How do you keep it off yourself? Words? You know
a lot of these subjects are things that you might
have been going through, but yet through writing and through
careful thought, you have kept it off yourself and you
make us feel like that we are the ones that
are to receive.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well. Yeah, So the first of all, that's awesome, because
that's that's a good that's the goal. It's never to
be self centered, it's to be serving centered. So I've
made it intentional where there's conversations that I've had with
people or things that people have asked me that I
might have been able to elaborate because of the time
or just how often I get messages and stuff like that.
So I would take those things and I would and
(03:32):
I would use those things as the center point for
everything where I understand that if that person is going
through it, first of all, that's the person I want
to reach. But also people are similar to that, and
there are people that I'm going to bring on the podcast.
Right now, I'm kind of just you know, set of
the groundwork where I want it to be personal and
I wanted to build that relationship with people before I
bring anyone else in. But the goal goal is going
to be to share the story that most people might
(03:52):
have identified with and said that they weren't able to
and then show them that it is possible.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Do you think that we're living in an age where
the songwriters of today I love to be some Taylor Swift,
but my god, I mean, you hear about breakups and
you know, stoned love and all that kind of stuff.
It's it's like they're giving us permission to just bring
out our pain. Is that good?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, so it's a it's a double edged story because
obviously they make money off of that, so there, Yeah,
their goal is always going to be to capitalize on hurt.
I think that it's good to be aware. It's bad
to make it your life. So it's good to know
that these things are happening. It's good to know that
there's a reality of it, that you're not alone, that
there's all the premise of it. But it's terrible when
you make that the central point of everything you do.
(04:36):
And again they hope harp on that one subject because
that one subject is an issue, but they don't obviously
the musicians, so it's a little different, but they don't
ever help people get over the issue. It's more like,
let's just bathe and miss together.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
One of the things that I'd love to watch are
people who what I call it popping, when they finally
realize there's light and less weight, they pop and all
of a sudden they've got a different view in life.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. I think that that's
a I mean, that's why we should all aim too.
And that doesn't mean also, like so doesn't mean that
everyone's like that all the time. Because we have seasons
right to the seasons where we feel really up and
motivated and elevating, there's seasons where we feel down. But
it's being able to distinguish that a season doesn't define
a life. So knowing that I'm in this now doesn't
(05:22):
mean that's who I am forever. That's the whole goal
of growth.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, but Joshua, I'm the freak that will sit there
and identify the season and say, okay, who is visiting
me from the other side because we need to talk
here because there are certain rules that you've got to
abide by if we're going to make it through this season.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I mean, so, I sorry so that that's a very
specific one because there are people that that are going
to look for an answer always. The reality is that
there isn't always an answer, Like sometimes there are just
things that are happening and you just have to be
able to ride that wave or understand, let's take back
to the analogy of a mountain. Understand that you're just
in a different level of the mountain, that it's still
(05:59):
the same mountain. It's just a different plateau. It might
be a beautiful view and beautiful, beautiful scene, but you
still have more to go. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
One of the things I learned in becoming a third
degree black belt is my Sobbanim would always say. He
would say, you've got a mountain in front of you,
go up that mountain and take it down one rock
at a time. That's all you can handle. And I
get that vibe from Made for the Mountain.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah yeah, I mean, but that's the best advice you
could have ever gotten, because that's the reality. We can't
take everything on at once. That's why so many people
overwork and they're so tired and they have lots to
bear because they think that they have to fix everything today,
And that's not how it works. It's little by little,
little increments, little steps that make the big.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Picture learning how to awaken the unstoppable strengths on the inside.
Oh my god, how do we wake them up? And
how do we keep them on alert because we're coming
after him.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah. So I think that a lot of people don't
look at this proponent of this because we again we
look at problems or mountains, we look at them as
a big, one, big, overall solution.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The whole goal of amounted is to make you better,
Like it's to make that premise of this because this
might be the one thing you're facing, but that's transferable
to everything else. So you might struggle with this here,
but it doesn't mean it doesn't transfer everything else in
your life. So when you're awaken that, when you're aware
of who you are, of the gifting of the ability
of what was made in you, what you were made for,
it transfers to absolutely everything. And I think it changes
(07:21):
how you perceive things, like we know that you know
life is fleeting, is short, and it changes that perspective
of how you address the problems.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Getting beyond fear. I mean sometimes people are traumatized, but
the thing is, though, you've got to get beyond the PTSD.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean fears. That's fear is useful when
you know how to use it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So what happens for a lot of us is we
let that kind of ruminate, We let it just run
its own narrative, its own story, and that's what we
lose control. That's where people become so afraid to move
because that one story is the one story they believe,
like we said in the beginning, right, the self fulfilling
prophecy component of it, where you believe that this is
going to be bad, So you know what, you're gonna
make it bad. You're gonna self sabotage where you can.
(08:03):
You're going to make sure that this thing that you
are predicting to fail to be terrible is the thing
that you're going to fail and be terrible in.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So why is it that Maybe it's just because of
how old I am, but it feels like that the
younger generation is upset. I thought that was for the
older people in life, you know, you were supposed to be,
you know, curmudgeons and things like that. It feels like
the twenty one year olds are the curmudgeons these days.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, so I'm a millennial, so I'm on the other
side of it. I would kind of get both of
the best of both worlds and the worst of both worlds.
But statistically speaking, statistics actually show us that Gen Z
is coming generation, or the older generation now they are
the highest level of depression and anxiety in the history.
So it's it's a really tough tough thing to bear
(08:46):
because it's a reality. But that's the truth of the matter.
And again, we can blame so many things. There's so
many factors. We can say, well, they're the first generation
that's completely immersed in social media and technology and all
these things. But I think it's at a deep value.
I think that generations before them were taught to have
this almost like self resilience, like the self desire to
(09:07):
be better in them, and this generation has been taught well,
somebody else is going to solve it for you. So
it's become a handicap, like they can't move in because
they think that, oh, someone else at someone else's problem,
they have to resolve it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You are so right about that, because as a department leader,
I you know, it's always like aro arrow er Arrow,
And I feel guilty when they're consistently saying my name
and asking me to come over, because that's how I
treated my parents. Mom mo mo mo mo mo mom.
And it's like, oh my god, come on, let me go.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, they're looking for somebody to walk them through things. Now,
I'd be completely honest. I do see a little shift
in that because I do work a lot with young people,
so I do a lot of like church ministry stuff
and the travel as a speaker for that, and I
do see a shift that's happening, which is interesting in
the country where there are this this servant leadership thing
(10:00):
that's coming up specifically young boys, which I love to see,
which is an indication of a society. Will tell you
how their men step up, So the way they look,
the way they act, the things they do appropriately, that's
indication of how good our society is or the struggles
that we're having. But I do see that upswing, which
is very at least personally nice to see. Well.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I think that's because of people like yourself, who are
stepping out there saying Okay, I'm listening, but you've got
to become activated as well. We're going to work at
this together.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's the premise of the mountain itself, right,
it's like, yeah, we could, I said, I think. I
say it's like an episode three or something, we talk
about healing or one of those things, and I mentioned
the fact that we won't We won't heal until we
choose to do the things that are difficult, the small
things that we have to do for that thing to happen.
It's not just you can hear a thousand podcasts, you
(10:50):
can read a thousand self help books, you can go
to therapy every single day, but nothing's going to change
if you don't do anything about it. So it's the
reality where you have to take some personal responsibility of
changing and growing. There has to be a level of
desire and action for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, you talk about that activation when you say that
there are five things that we should ask ourselves when
we're ready to give up.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, yeah, because that's the premise of it. Like a
lot of us give up because somebody told us we
had to write we think that we can't do the
things like obviously, I'll be completely honest with you, I
never thought that podcasting was a thing like I don't
think this was like you know, I said, I do
well on social media. I'll stick to my like TikTok
and stuff because that's where some of the bills are
getting paid. But it was never like a wow, I
(11:35):
can talk to people and there's a premise of it.
So for me, I had that. I gave myself that
that limiting belief that handicaps saying that this is not
a reality and love and behold here. I am in
the reality. But I think a lot of people still
still live in that. They stay in that they don't
make the progress and anything else. Because that's it again,
we're going back to self fulfilling prophecy. You believe you
can't so you don't do, not move.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
There is more with Joshua Rosa coming up next. Hey,
thanks for coming back to my conversation with Joshua Rosa,
host of the podcast Made for This Mountain Dude. Let's
be honest here. You talked about going to church and
things and helping out with religious groups. You know you've
been called to do this, this is the new church
because it's one on one and God is working through
you to reach them.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's using my gifting appropriately, right
Because so again as excited I speak, I do. I've
been in arenas with five thousand people in rooms with thoughts.
It's it's not it's never about the number of people.
It's about the one. It's about the person that we're reaching.
So being able to use this as a platform that
(12:39):
says that I'm helping someone somewhere do something, that's that's
what all that matters at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Don't you love that feeling when you talk about, you know,
being in gigantic arenas or even being with even five people,
that feeling of no matter what, it's not talking at people,
You are sharing with people. And I love looking in
people's eyes and to me that that's the connection between
you know, you're the only one here. I realize there's
a lot of other people here, but you're the one
that we're talking to.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, no, I think that, But that should always be
the goal, right, Like when we do those things, it
should be that we want to reach that person. Yes,
you can impact you might not be it was a
a Teresa cut Cutters. She said, you might You might
not change the whole world for you might not change
the who world for everyone, but you might change one
person's whole world. So the goal is always that one
person that you are going to affect and change in
a way that's going to do something for them. And
(13:28):
even again, it doesn't have to be like this grandiose
change in their whole life. But if there was something
that you helped them realize and face, you've done what
you were meant to do.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Do you believe that winning is a choice.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
That winning is a choice? I agree with that statement,
I think I think the fact yeah, I actually firm
agree with that, because the difference between winning and failing
is that you choose to give up winning. If you
don't give up, you were winning, that's it, that's you.
You're significantly better than you were yesterday. You know the
mistakes you made, that's a little bit of improvement. When
you fail and you choose to stay on the failure,
(14:03):
that's the only time you're actually choosing something. So I
think winning is yeah, winning is a choice. Doing the
thing you have to do consistently, knowing that there is
a chance of things happening and believe in it. You know.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
One of the things that people who tend to hide
the thing is is that people like you and I
we see them and and and we know what they're
going through, but we can't really approach them. But we
need them to come to us. But I mean, what
we how can we get into that process of a
hider and give them the confidence to step out?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think stuff like this. I mean, obviously podcasting is
like a big, big switch, a swing in the current
time we're in. Being able to just be consistent in
that messaging of you know, of self will, of self desire,
knowing that there's something more, and that that premise that
you are capable, despite the things that you have believed,
(14:53):
being able just to get that message out. I think
that's the most important thing that we ever do for
those people, because reality is that most people won't approach us,
but if they hear the message, it might be something
that approaches them.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah. Yeah, let's let's let's be creative here for a second.
In the way of your background music that I call
that frequency music, is that is that what you're actually using.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Not always I just depends the thing. So my actual
like the podcast itself. The beginning my one of my
best friends who I call my cousin because we're Dominican,
and somewhere down theline someone's married. He is a professional musician,
so he's on tour right now with an iHeart artist
actually funny enough, and he he was like, oh, I'll
do it for you, and I was like, cool, appreciate
(15:33):
it and just put it together for me. But I'm
a really big fan of lo fi, so you kind
of use that as a sample for that, But I
do think it does have a a premise for that.
Like music itself, it's it's natural to us, the language
that we all speak. So it definitely is a tool
in there.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, definitely, because you know, because what the thing about
it is that I've always been taught you can only
hear one thing at a time. Well, your music is there.
But it gives me the opportunity to listen to you.
I'm still you know, directly in contact with what you're saying.
It's just that that music says it's okay, I'm gonna
be right here. You've got a foundation.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, it helps also like just calm us down, you know,
it's not the depending of the genre you listen to,
you're gonna feel different emotions. So that's the whole goal
with lo fi and like those soft beats is just
to keep you at peace knowing that you're welcome there.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, all right, the big battle this is bigger than
the w WE. Motion versus movement. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a big, big takeaway there
because a lot of people are doing a lot of things.
They're moving a lot, but they're not they're not changing.
Nothing's actually moving forward. There's no motion. So that that's
one of the big questions that we asked, are you
actually doing something or are you just making yourself tired? Ye?
Ye ye.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know what I compare that to is that, you know,
when someone says I'm trying, I'm trying. The first thing
that I do is I grab a writing instrument, I
put it on a table and I say, try to
move that pan. Well, they move it. I said, I
said try to move that pan. I didn't say move
that pin. Try to move it. And so what they're
learning is that when they say I'm trying, no move
do it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Again, that's a great analogy. It's easy to say you're trying,
but it's very, very different when there's action, because that
whole saying actionally speak louder than words. I'll believe what
you're doing more than what you're saying because I see
you actually doing it, and it takes us back to
that that reality where again you're going to hear a
thousand podcasts and nothing's ever going to change if you
don't actually do the thing.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You suggest that we name our mountains. I mean that's
almost like naming a hurricane.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a great analogy to itself, because if
you know the name of the hurricane, at least you
know what there's the damage. So in the mountains, that's
the truth is knowing that this is the thing that's
causing this problem, and that allows you to be able
to identify it and heal it ultimately be able to
actually step into that thing and say, well, this is
the problem, so I'm going to fix it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Is it easy to identify a trigger, because I mean
that's one of the things that I do. I do
a d frag journal every day where I ask myself
the questionestion and then question the answers because I want
to identify the triggers.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly perfect. That's exactly who we should
be doing. It's knowing that what is it that's causing
this because for a lot of us, our triggers are
more based on an emotional memory than it is an
actual fact. So we remember how we felt, not so
much what it was, and that's where our brain compiles.
It starts like building on that. It says, well, you
(18:26):
felt like this, so it must have been this, this,
and this, and then you go down this rabbit hole
of things that you aren't questioning. But that's what happens
when you let those things be rampant, it doesn't change.
So yeah, absolutely being able to question those things and
knowing what those things were and why you felt that way,
and then being able to address that. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I did some research today for a show that's going
to be up on iHeartRadio today, and it was based
on that we're all supposed to be living in the present,
and yet the preacher people they sit there and preach
from a book that was about two thousand years ago.
Man to do the research on that, I learned so much,
And that's what I wish people would do. When you've
got questions do the freaking research.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, yeah, don't just assume, because that's saying you make
when you assume. I don't know if I say the words,
but you know that old saying. You don't actually know
what you're talking about. You're just speaking from a perspective
and not in a fact.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Where can people go to find out more about you, Joshua,
because I want them to follow you, I want them
to support you, and I want them to help spread
your word.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I appreciate it. We have made for this mountain. It's
on every platform, so it's on iHeartRadio, on Apple podcasts
or wherever you get your podcasts, and on social media.
I'm just underscore Joshua Rosa. One of my biggest flexes,
as we call in our culture, is that I can
always say you can google me, you can google my name,
(19:42):
but ignore there's another Joshua Rosa that didn't do some
nice things. So I'm not that Joshua Rosa. He's in jail.
I'm here, So this josh Rosa is very different, So
if you google me, just know that it's a different
person there with my name. My SEO has been doing
great lately, so we've been getting a little better but
still I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Please come back to the show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you, Joshua.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay, thank you so much.
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