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September 17, 2025 25 mins
Barbara Hammett Glover joins the show to talk about the Artists Guild Gallery, in business for 35 years, and her work in oil and cold wax.  The discussion includes cold wax and oil paints vs encaustic painting as well as using acrylics and tapestry.  The gallery is found at 1974 14th avenue in Vero Beach, online at ArtistsGuildGalleryofVeroBeach.com and Barbara's website is BarbaraGloverArt.com

Casey Lunceford joins us to introduce Terry Kavalec, and we discuss the Gifford Academy for the Performing Arts (Formerly the Gifford Youth Orchestra).  Mr. Kavalec, who has recently discovered the organization, has authenticated a 1737 Stradivarius violin, which will be auctioned off in Palm Beach at the end of September.  Fundraising for the Gifford Academy for the Performing Arts focuses on auctioning instruments to enhance arts education, while insights into violin making reveal its materials and history.  Discover more at GiffordAcademy.org


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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Arts Blast on the Air. It's podcast. It's
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Vero Beach and now on with the show. My guest
today in the fresh segment, Barbara Hammett Clever. Then Casey

(01:07):
Lunsford has brought Terry Cavalet to talk a little bit later. Barbara,
A long time since we have talked, Not so long
since I have admired your artwork online. I just love
what you do. Well, thank you. But we're going to
talk well, we're going to talk about several things today.

(01:27):
We're going to talk about the Artistic Guild gallery and
oil and cold wax. That's something that I'm very curious about.
I dabbled and that's pretty much what I did in
encaustics a while ago. Can you explain the difference between

(01:48):
encaustic painting and painting with oil paints mixed with cold wax.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
In caustic is very very liquid paint oil with wax
and it has a lot of high fumes. Cold wax
is kind of like a buttery textured medium that I
mix as much as half and half of the cold

(02:16):
wax plus oil, and I can use any of my oils.
And so it's the heat that makes a big difference.
Although I've been playing with using the heat gun as well,
and that gives a whole other.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Aspect to caustics. Yes, but.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
In caustics generally they use it, melt it already and
apply it to a surface, whereas with the heat gun,
I apply the oil and cold wax at many many layers,
and then I can apply the heat gun to the
surface of the painting and melt it there, which is

(03:01):
very exciting because it is you're at the mercy of
the paint and the heat. But it gives skies a
texture that is truly unique in that it's not like
brushing things on. You never know what exactly is going
to happen, so it's going to end up exactly and

(03:23):
that's what I love about it, because you're really playing
with the paint. I apply up to ten layers of
oil and cold wax and then I scrape it away.
I can use brushes, I can use all kinds of
tools and apply heat at any point in that process

(03:44):
and then add more paint. So it's definitely a longer process,
but very very enjoyable.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm inspired to get back and get some
wax and try it again. Are There are a lot
of people locally who are who were doing this, dealing
with cold wax and oils.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I know of one person, Monique car who just opened
up a gallery on fourteenth Avenue as well, and she's
from some other location. She has recently moved to Vero
and I would love to meet her. I have not
done that. I go buy her shop but it hasn't

(04:25):
been open when I've gone over.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And tell me her name again, Monique car C A
R R.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay, but she doesn't apply heat, I don't think, and
she's given some workshops. I'm not doing that right now,
but I'm still experimenting and enjoying the process and just
being passionate about what I choose to do.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's not your only medium though, right you you actually
paint in other yes, I.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Paint with plain oil. It does take longer to dry,
so I do seven or eight paintings at one time
so that they can dry, and that way I always
have something to work on.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Like having a stack of books by your bedside. You
have anything you can read any time you want.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's right, and I love that. I mean, my husband
promised me a studio when we moved here to Vero,
and that was all the enticement I needed.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
It was nice to get out of the basement. Oh yeah,
nothing like good light for painting.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Absolutely, and oh we have magnificent light here and the
sunsets and sunrises here. I think that really drove me
to doing the oil and cold wax because the skies
are so incredible and there's no way the human touch
can create the skies and the clouds that it just

(06:05):
are awe inspiring. I started learning about cold wax through
an artist in North Carolina Asheville, North Carolina. Her name
is Cindy Walton, but she was very abstract and kind
of pressing different tools into the paint. But that was

(06:26):
my first time working with this medium. And then in
twenty thirteen I worked one day workshop with Kurt Butler
and he used oil and cold wax and talked about
applying heat to it, but never did it. And that

(06:47):
afternoon I raced out and got a heat gun and
I've been playing with it ever since.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
And you're enjoying that. Let's you enjoy it. But what
a substrate can you use it on? You're talking about
all your paintings that you have sitting around. Can you
use the wax and heat on a canvas?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Absolutely not, And that's why I apply so many layers.
You use a board or there are. What I'm doing
primarily is wood panels that are cradled like one and
a half inches to two inch cradle around the wood,
so it's much heavier to carry. And my artist friends

(07:35):
don't enjoy, you know, hanging the art, but because it
is so much heavier. But again for safety reasons, you
really need to have a hard surface, and that's I'm
sure the same thing that in caustic requires.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I saw on your website, which is Barbara Glover art
dot com, a mention of tapestry. I think no, or
was I going to ask you that? Okay, can you
can you do it on material?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Fabric?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
No? No fabric at all.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I would think it would burn. I would think so
because my heat gun can go up to eight hundred
Oh yeah, I'm okay a nine hundred degrees. And that's
always a question that people ask, you know, is it
going to melt in the sun. It'll be in the light,
and of course if it gets to four hundred and
fifty eight hundred degrees, you're not worried about a painting.

(08:33):
So I've carried them in the car in the heat
because I was concerned about that as well. But it
gets very very hard after a period of time, and
it's I just love it.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, I'm going to try it. I think I've mentioned
this maybe on the show before, but when I was
playing around within caustics years ago, I was adding little
do dads here into the wax, and I put a
hibiscus blossom in the wax. The acoustic wax he up meld.

(09:11):
It was beautiful, I bet yes. But it was out
on my back porch and the squirrel came and ate
the high biscus blossom.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh my goodness. Well, I'm sorry. I hope you can
do that again.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I would like to do that again, maybe in retirement. Yes,
well that's when I started painting. Really, okay, can we
talk a little bit about the Artist's Guild Gallery. I
remember meeting the artists at the time, maybe back at
the beginning, it was many years ago. You're one of
the artists of the Artist's Guild Gallery.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I am. And there are twelve of us now. We
have were celebrating thirty five years well of being in
continual business, which I think is the longest any art
gallery has been in business in zero so we're very
proud of that. There are twelve of us right now,
and we do have an associate member that who is

(10:10):
a doctor in town, a dentist in town, and so
we and we do have some commissioner commissions in jewelry.
And where is the gallery It's on nineteen seventy four
fourteenth Avenue.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Okay, you can't miss it once you get there.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
No, but we want you to come, and we do
have the gallery walks on the first Friday of each month,
which is always a wonderful time to meet all the artists.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
And other than that are when are you open.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
We're open Tuesday through Saturdays from eleven until four.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, that's the Artist Guild Gallery, fourteenth Avenue. You'll see
it and you'll know what you're going to see is
wonderful stuff. And the website is.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
My website is Barbara Glover art dot com.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
And I have the artist skilled It's easy artist guilled
Gallery of Vero Beach dot com.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay, I've had great time talking with you, Barbara. You
have inspired me well. I hope that you follow through
this time. Okay, I think I will. I think I will.
Thanks again, Thank you, Barbara, having met Tarber you too. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (14:10):
And we are back with Artsplaster on the Air. I'm
Willie Miller. Now I'm talking with an old friend, Casey
Lunsford and Casey, you've brought somebody with you. Would you'd
like to introduce Terry.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
I'd be glad to so. Terry Cavallac is a guest today.
Carrie found us about a month ago. It was a
short relationship, but he came in and he said, I
have a strativarius violin that he's getting ready to auction,
and he and his partner decided that they would like
the public to have a chance to hear this instrument
and know more about the history. And I was fascinated.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Okay, if we should first say our relationship. Oh, yeah,
we first met when you were I guess when both
of us were at Indian River State College.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Absolutely, you're a WQCS and I was the music director there.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
And now did you actually reach and then go to
the Gifford Orchestra.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Well, that's an interesting story. I'm not the model for retirement.
I retired for one week when I left the college
three years ago, exactly this month, and then retired for
a week and joined the Gifford Youth Orchestra at that time.
And we recently just changed our name to the Gifford
Academy for Performing Arts, which is a more umbrella and
as we explain, expand our disciplines and our activities. This

(15:27):
fits our vision.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Where is where is it based? Where are you based?

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Well, we're still all over the place. We're trying to
build a new facility. We're raising money for that. We're
about two thirds of the way through that, but eventually
we'll have a house a building in Gifford on forty
fifth Street, Martin Luther King Boulevard and thirty second Avenue.
Currently our offices are located on Highway sixty just short
of forty third Avenue, so we're there. That's where our

(15:54):
main office is, but we have lessons all over the county.
We're in Gifford, a couple locations. We're out in Fell now,
we're down in the south part of the county. So
we've expanded the opportunities for the kids using the model
that doctor Bujol created years ago, and we just expanded
those opportunities to more students to provide them arts education
instead of some of the other things they do after school.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Hello, I'll keep forgetting Crystal, Crystal who show tells me
all the time, but I always forget how long ago
was it that she and.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
A local woman, right, Miss Perry, right right. They founded
the GYO in two thousand and three, so we're in
our twenty third year and again coming out of the pandemic,
we've just expanded our offerings for more kids.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Okay, you go into the schools. Now, we do.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
We teach schools after school. We're an after school program only,
but we do use the school facilities Gifford Middle School,
Fells Mary Elementary School, Dodger Town, as well as some
other community activities and other places.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Okay, now, why are we here today? We're going to
talk about a strata varius.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
We are Terry is. Like I said, Terry came to
us and said I had this instrument, and after he
gets auctioned off and sold, it'll probably disappear from public viewing, unfortunately.
And so he brought this idea to us, and I'll
let him explain what we did and what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, Terry take it away.

Speaker 7 (17:19):
Well, thank you Willie, thank you Casey, and thank you
very much Willie for having me on the show. Yes,
I'm doctor Peter zerit's research assistant on this strata area.
And as I'm driving around town, I see differed youth orchestra.
I thought, Wow, once his violin's gone, we can help

(17:39):
them out with the proceeds. And I thought, why don't
we help them out now with a fundraiser. Now I
don't call them fundraisers. I call them fundraisers because we
had a lot of fun. We didn't raise as much
money as I would have liked to. So with that
in mind, folks, what I'd like to announce is, if
you have an old vie in shallow a double base,

(18:04):
if it's collecting dust, my team and I would love
to see it. We can appraise it for you. If
it's up some value, keep it. We can direct you
on how best to turn that item in your closet
into money. However, should you decide you want to donate it, Casey,

(18:25):
would you be happy if I turned that violin into
some cash?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Or that shows for you.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Also, folks, here's a long shot, Casey. How much money
do you need to finish off that building?

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (18:38):
About one point five million. It'll get us to where
we want to be. We raise over two millions so far,
I can't cover the entire cost. Should someone out there
want to buy this fantastic concert quality fiddle, they can
loan it to a player who will pay the insurance
and all the upkeep. Now, remember strata very and Picasso

(19:00):
are the same. When the stock markets are down, Stratavarian
Picasso are up. While the stock markets are up, Stratovarian.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
Picasso are up. It's one of the world's greatest investments.
Should someone want to buy it before the auction, we
have the ability to work the deal out with the owner.
They will save a small fortune on auction fees, and
we can turn those auction fees into a rather substantial

(19:32):
contribution toward the finish of the building. Folks, get on
the phone, call your billionaire and mega millionaire friends before
it goes to auction. Long shot, but you.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
Never know, well, and we had the chance at the
event last week at the community church. They hosted us
Matt Stott, who of course taught Verbage High School. Oh yeah,
and did a fantastic job. Matt was gracious enough to
come in and demonstrate the instrument for us. Terry, let's
pull the fiddle, Okay, let's dry it very violent, but
he pulled the fiddle out and Matt played for about

(20:08):
ten or fifteen minutes on it, and he was just
effusive in the praise of the instrument, the quality, and
you know Matt, he's very conservative and very quiet. He
just was gushing over the quality instrument and that is
just gorgeous to hear him play it all the different
ranges of the instrument, it was a special moment. Yeah,
everybody at that reception really really enjoyed not only hearing

(20:32):
it play, but then Matt's evaluation of the instrument really
was special. Yeah, it was a very very enjoyable evening.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
We actually have Will he believe it or not, It
could potentially be the greatest sounding violent out there. We
loaned it to Harvard. Daniel Cheong at Harvard for six
months to tour. He very professionally begged to use it
for two more months. Eric Grossman and Juilliard said it's
probably the best violin he's ever heard. So with that said, folks,

(21:04):
it's an honor to be here. It's an honor to
help Casey's organization. If you have an old violin, cello,
double bass, I make house calls, call Casey's office. Do
not stop ey. They're already busy enough and I don't
want to make extra work for them. But if you
send an email or phone call. We can make an appointment.
I can see a series of people in one day

(21:25):
at his office. He's been gracious enough to Lemmy's office.
So before I put up a website, before I do
all the stuff that costs money, call his office. We'll
take a look. My international team will take a look
at it.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, okay, could I ask a question? Sure, you probably know.
How do you start making a violin?

Speaker 7 (21:46):
That's a fantastic question. The top of the violin is pine.
They actually get a big wedge of pine. They split
that wood in half. That wedge they put those two wedges,
they butt glow them and they hand carved the top,
The scroll, the neck in the back are all maple,

(22:09):
and those are all hand carved as well.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
The different types of wood, and that's in the strata
vary because of the northern Italy where the wood was
found is unique. And apparently that's part of it. Besides
the artisan, the great artist that he was.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
The theory is still out there and why they sound
so good? Yeah, who knows the notes?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Pardon what did you say?

Speaker 7 (22:33):
The theory is out there and why the violin sounds
so fantastic? By good, I mean the sound is very
complex and yet very sharp through the entire range, all
the strings, all the octaves. It's quite a sensation.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
What about the neck, what's that made of? Something? Totally?

Speaker 7 (22:52):
It's also maple. The scroll, the neck in the back,
and the ribs are all maple. The ribs are on
the side, and those are all steam bent. Even back
in Stratavari's day, they take a hot piece of pipe,
hot bar if you will, and steam of the woods
so it can be bent to the shape of the ribs.

(23:12):
That's the outside of the violins, of the ribs. The
violin actually is a pulsating unit that creates a sound.
And the history of the violin is quite fascinating because
they really don't know where they started. They appear in
paintings from the fourteenth and fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. They
appear in museums they you know, through the years they
found a lot of these old violins, but how they

(23:34):
started is still a mystery.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, we're going to run out of time before we
get the entire allots and lesson about how to build
a violate and terry. So casey once again, how do
people donate money to the.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Giffert Academy for performing arts, still practicing that myself. You
can reach us on our website www dot Gifford Aadam
dot org again Gifford Academy dot org, or you can
call the office at seven seven two two one three
three zero zero seven.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Thank you. We have run out of time and we'll
do this again. Casey Lunsford, Terry Cavllac, thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
Thank you, Willie, my.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Pleasure, and thanks again to Barbara Hammett Glover, and thank
you as always out there for joining us again this
week for Artsplast on the Air podcast radio show and
Alexis Skill, all presented by Riverside Theater in Ballet, Vero Beach,
covering the arts online and in arts Blast, the free
emailed weekly Florida arts news magazine. Join us again next

(24:42):
week for another edition of arts Blast on the Air.
I'm Willie Miller. Thanks for listening.
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