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October 30, 2023 60 mins
This is part 2 of a two-part discussion between Drs. Stacy Ochoa and Mike DeLuke.

In this podcast, Dr. Stacy Ochoa and Dr. Mike DeLuke discuss the importance of early intervention in orthodontic and dental treatment for children with sleep and airway issues.

Dr. DeLuke is an orthodontist who left private practice to teach/educate full-time on this important topic through his courses at The Ortho Coach.

Link to the DOC Website: www.TheOrthoCoach.com

Link to the DOC Podcast YouTube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@delukeorthodonticcoaching

The DOC Podcast with the parents of a 6 yo girl on whom Dr. Mike detected an airway issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJFP_9NFnv0&t=627s&ab_channel=DeLukeOrthodonticCoaching

Link to The DOC Community Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1350463785569755

Link to Part 1 of Dr. Mike’s article on Interceptive Treatment in OrthoTown: https://www.nxtbook.com/farran/orthotown/orthotown-june-2023/index.php?startid=54#/p/54
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Because Kids Can't Wait...


Drs Ochoa and DeLuke discuss various topics related to orthodontic treatment for children, including the importance of sleep and airway health, intercept orthodontic treatment, the use of braces and wires, expanders, and Invisalign.
The conversations emphasize the need for a thorough diagnosis and treatment planning process, as well as the importance of collaboration between dentists, orthodontists, and medical colleagues to provide comprehensive care for patients. They highlight the impact of sleep disorders on children's overall health and well-being, including neurocognitive issues and hyperactivity.
Dr. DeLuke shares his innovative approach to orthodontic treatment using braces and wires in young patients, focusing on developing wide arches and the role of the tongue in shaping the palate. The speakers also discuss the use of expanders and Invisalign in young children, acknowledging the potential benefits but also the challenges and limitations.
The conversations stress the importance of early intervention and interceptive orthodontic treatment in young children, and the need for a shift in orthodontic practices to prioritize children's needs and improve patient outcomes. They mention the ASAP Pathway as a resource for professionals interested in interceptive orthodontics and pediatric dental sleep medicine.

The speakers aim to create a unified front and gather evidence to support their approach and fight for what is best for children.

What topics are discussed in part two of the podcast?

Part two of the podcast discusses treatment options for pediatric patients with sleep-related breathing disorders, including maxillary and mandibular expansion.



  1. Why is it important to treat these kids at a young age?

Treating these kids at a young age can have a transformative impact on their lives, improving their airway and addressing symptoms of sleep-related breathing disorders.


2. What is unique about Dr. Mike Deluc's approach to arch development?
Dr. Mike Deluc uses a different approach to arch development, focusing on expanding the arches rather than extracting teeth. He also explores the use of rapid expanders for younger patients.

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