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Mike. What's going on? Allright? So this is one of the
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first that we have in today onour show. This is the first performer
at the performer that mail let mesay that mail at the performer that we
had. I know we had thevote on, but he's a director,
you know, and we did havemarkets on, but that was at a
special session that we had. Butin the studio today, well you know,
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via the studio today, we dohave an amazing I've been seeing him
all over the place for the pastyear and a half and I reached out
to his publicist and I said,I need to get this man on my
show. But I'm not going tointroduce him just yet because let me tell
you something. One of my goodgirls that is a BTG. She is
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so excited she said, We've neverhad a mail on here a male performer.
She said, I am so excitedfor this, and so I'm excited
as well, because you know,it's been a minute since I really sat
down and talked to a male performer. Yes, and this one is kind
of special because he ain't just aperformer. He got it up here,
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this brand's up here. This asgood as them. Yeah, I know
what I'm saying. So we gonnado this. We're gonna take a quick
break and then we're gonna come back, and when we come back, we're
gonna meet this very special guest.All right, it's a goody gouts.
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your questions ready? Yeah, Igot I got some questions. You got
some questions? You got your quest'sready. It's interesting, all right,
my BTG crew, I see youall out there. I'm loving all the
love that you all been giving ushere on accellent Revision Gap podcast. So
before the break, you know,I had told y'all that we had a
very very special guest that I've beenwatching this young man I'm doing this thing
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but bringing up on him and stufflike that, and I had to reach
out to his publicist. But beforeyou put him on stage, let me
just read a little something to y'all. He's an aerospace defense engineer termed it
says rising Adult film utcome. Buthe is a multi award winning coming in
and racking up on some awards.Just from in the beginning, just in
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the beginning. He's a Detroit native. I love my Detroit people as well.
And we're going to bring him tothe stage, mister John Legendary,
Hey, how are you take himoff? You? Thank you so much
for having me, glad to behere. Thank you you are acutie.
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I saw that picture and it wasappreciate it as well. Well. I
thank you, thank you. Iappreciate it. I appreciate it. So
I so let me say this.I got a lot of questions for you.
I'm going to I'm gonna get alittle personal, but not too personal,
please, but I'm gonna make youcomfortable. Yeah, I'm gonna make
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you comfortable. Yeah, you know, I really want to show people as
you know, as humans, youknow what I'm saying, and so they
can really see a different side ofus versus us just being on camera doing
what we love to do. Youunderstand what I'm saying. So for you,
you starting off as an aerow spacedefense and j oh, I'm not
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even gonna look at my paper rightnow. My listen like like like that's
a big that's a big gap.That's a big gap. So what made
you go from here to here?So that's that's a great question. And
you know it's I've always had thisvery like sex positive way of living and
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on my weekends I would I wouldcall it like guys night out, but
really it was my time to hangout with like wives, and so I
would throw like swinger like hot wifeparties where wives their husbands would come and
I would maybe have a couple ofmy friends there and I have some unicorns
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or single women and we would justhave a party and I was really big
in the hot wife lifestyle, andthat was like my Saturday hobby, you
know, where it's like I'm goingon a playdate with with this wife.
And I was like, if I'mdoing this just for free, just for
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the sake of my enjoyment, mykink, you know, my Saturday night
out, what if I can actuallyget paid for performing with porn stars?
M hm. And so I appliedonline like a regular job application, and
two weeks later I was signed.Yeah, that's how it happened. But
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for the first two years of mycareer, up until maybe what last two
months ago, a month and ahalf ago, I was still working both
jobs, like my corporate job andyou know porn really yeah, oh yeah,
well okay, hold on, holdon, wait then, because that's
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something really new. I mean,especially now that you know we have internet.
You know when internet is, it'sall over the place. So for
you to successfully work your job asI'm assuming as it still as an engineer,
yea arrows and that as well asperforming for two years and just did
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you say two months ago? Yeah, the beginning of February. Wow,
wow, so two months to tomorrowtwo months tomorrow be two months yeah,
yeah, yeah, so yeah,it is really new. Now I'm like
full time like producer, performer,content creator, whatever you want to call
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it, you know, a fulltime now. So what does that look
like? What does that look likegoing into the office after you come for
ABN and you're winning an award?What does that look like? How does
that feel when you walk around knowingthat you are probably one of the most
highest things walking around. Seriously,you just got award for you shot there.
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So what does that look like walkinginto the office. I try to
keep a very low key profile atwork, you know, Like I know,
it's like a dichotomy, right,uh, but it's like just like
you know, and and and myindustry is very white, male, you
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know, centric or whatever. SoI stand out already, and I look
younger than what I really am.So I just kind of stand out as
so as it's like taking a concentratedeffort on on being low key and not
ruffling too much feathers and just goin and do my work, do my
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job, and then I I don'tmake those uh work friendships like I did
early in my career. You know, when I was earlier in my career,
I was at Boeing which is ahuge company. You know, I
was on a fast track leadership,and so that's when networking and everything was
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very important to get like mentors andstuff like that. But but at this
phase in my life when I wentto this last company, it was more
so, Hey, I have alot of things I would like to accomplish
outside of corporate, so this couldat least sustain me and allow me to
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live up you know, the lifestyleI'm used to while pursuing other things outside
of that. You know. Soit wasn't my the where I was in
my life. It wasn't about youknow, being out and open, going
to all the different uh work functionsand community groups, and you know,
it wasn't about that. It wasjust like yo, you just ready to
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get this check, you know,and keep it moving. So right now,
as you're talking, I'm picturing ClarkKent, like like you walking in
with the glasses like you see anything. Like it's a whole difference. It's
a two sides, you know,That's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing that
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you were Clark Clark Kent when you'rethat's that's kind of yeah, exactly,
It's I feel that way, youknow, A lot because I know how
I don't know, maybe mundane oror regular Vanilla by nine to five is
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or was, and then I know, you know, after work, I
might have a threesome line up oryou know I have I just got through
doing an orgy the night before,and I'm you know, I'm keeping a
straight face, like damn, thesethese people, I feel bad because they're
just not living, you know.So it's an interesting thing to kind of
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walk through on a day to daybasis. I ran so let me ask
you this, because at some pointyou had to where you had two lives,
and so you were able to andI'm gonna be honest, you were
able to come off this high,that sexual high, you know what I'm
saying. So it keeps you atnormalcy. You know, now that you're
no longer have to go to anine to five and no longer have that
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normalcy, have you felt the changein how you are? Does that make
sense? Yeah, it's been aquite quite a bit of a change and
trying. Frankly, I feel likeI'm more busy now than when I was
before, because you know, Ihave this nice this job, this easy
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jobs. To me, it's easy, you know, it's a six figure
job where I begin, it's checkedevery two weeks and I just have to
show up, you know where.Now it's like I have to I have
to hustle. I have to grindfor real, Like there's no chilling in
the bed till like six seven o'clock. I'm like, I'm a early you
know, and I'm you know,going to sleep later. And it's like
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constant grind. So it's a it'sa huge adjustment, way differ from corporate
America, and it's yeah, it'scrazy crazy right now. All right,
So now I'm about to get alittle person, all right, yes please,
yeah, all right? So youare this aerospace defense engineer, right,
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yes, how do the Apple andyour mama's and your parents? All
right? I wish now you aporn start? What does that look like
for? Do they know? Imean because you kept it hitting for two
years from your job? But doyour family know? Everyone except my mother
knows. She doesn't know, butlike my dad knows, my brothers know,
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every everyone essentially knows. But yeah, she she can't know. She's
very like Christian and everything like that, and she already thinks I'm like a
heathen, you know, she alreadythinks I live like a crazy lifestyle,
and I've never given her, inmy opinion, I've never given her,
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you know that that reason to thinkthat I live this crazy lifestyle. Like
if I say I'm dating two girls, it's like, oh my gosh,
you need to like slow down,you need to find Jesus, go to
church and get married, find youa good woman. And I'm like,
so so I can't only imagine ifI told her what I was really doing,
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you know, she would she couldsend her to the home. Yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, mmhmm, Okay, what everyone knows.
It's so crazy because no one everyonewho knows as far as like my family,
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no one is surprised, you know, because just who I am and
how wild my life has been sofar, especially when everyone learned that,
you know, I was a bulland the hot wife lifestyle. So it
was like that was like the pinnacle, you know, if that was the
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top, you know, like sleepingwith married women while their husbands may be
there. You know, a lotof my vanilla friends couldn't even you know,
fathom that. So porn Star waslike easy, you know, walking
apart for everyone to like digest mmhmm, Okay, this is this,
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This is very this is very interestingbecause if the whole family know, Mom
still don't know, no, no, yeah, yeah. All right.
So here's the question. What's beenthe most revealing thing about yourself that you
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learned from being in this industry,in the adult industry. That's a really
good question. What's the most revealingthing about me? I would say that
I'm more open minded than I previouslythought, you know, like even in
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the bedroom, you know, whereI was very experienced mm hmm, but
I know I didn't really try thatmany crazy things like you know, when
you when you in terms of likelike spitting your mouth, right like I
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wasn't due. I wasn't spending nobody'smouth, you know. But nowadays,
you know, I'm that may happen, you know. And I think I
brought a little of the porn intothe bedroom, and it's been adding some
good variety because I my style asa performer or as a person, I'm
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more passion you know, sensual,and so adopting some of the stuff from
porn and bringing it into like mypersonal stuff, I think that's been you
know, exciting, you know,and then getting me more into like like
bdssel Man. You know that that'sbeen that's been pretty cool. But yeah,
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I definitely I've always been open minded, but I feel like I didn't
know I was this open minded,you know, like, yeah, so
it's it's been uh, it's beencool. It's been cool. All right.
So your first your first day onset, because when we first start
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off, I think that it's justyou know, it's we're good and bad.
We figured we can just go righton camera and be able to do
it for you. I know,it's very hard, sometimes very challenging for
men because it is some things thatthey have to do and they have to
be able to hold and be ableto come when the pops. How did
you do on your first Yeah,so my first time, it was my
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first professional seed was a blowbang?Are you comm with a blowbang? Okay?
And it's like it's me and it'slike, I don't know, like
twelve other guys whatever, And Iwas cool. You know. I always
keep to myself just so I canstay you know, have my mindset,
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you know, locked in, andthen it's time to like get naked.
And he pulled our pants down andthe guy next to me, the Aroma
the odor from when he dropped hispants and hit me in the nose and
I went soft, and I'm like, fuck, now what I'm going to
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do? So I had to goin the corner and try like get myself
hard again, and and and andand it was. I got through it.
I don't know how, but Igot through it. But I told
my agent at the time, Isaid, Yo, this is my last
time ever doing a blow bang.And it was tough because I'm a very
clean person and so I can onlycontrol me. I can control the hygiene
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of other talents. And so thatwas that was something I had to learn.
But that was a challenging day.Here's another question for you, what's
the essence of John Legendary? SoI always call myself, you know,
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a gentleman first, and so Itry to mean it's not hard, but
I respect people. I respect women. I try to provide a great experience
in everything that I do as faras my female talents co talents, you
know, I just try to givethem something different that they're not used to.
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I think we take a lot ofromance out of porn, you know.
So a lot of women don't evenknow what a good stroke is,
and so I try to at leastput a smile on your face, you
know. And so it's I've alwayswanted to just bring who I am to
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to porn and I tell people I'mJohn legend There is just an extension of
who I am, you know.There's no difference, you know. I
mean I have you know, fansand everything like that now, but there's
no difference in like how I carrymyself or how I communicate or It's like,
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it's not like I have to holdthis certain image. I got into
the industry at thirty seven, soI already knew who I was, you
know, I was aud the accomplishin different areas and stuff. So I'm
like, I don't need to likepretend or or you know, put on
this like faside for anyone, becauseI think I want to bring something kind
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of new, refreshing, and that'sjust who I am. And so I
think that's, you know what,the essence of John Legendary is a gentleman.
At first, I like that.So what is the biggest misconception do
you think people have about individual whowork in the adult industry. The biggest
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miss inception, Oh, I wouldsay that we are like not clean or
something, you know, like whenwhen Yeah, I would say that because
when I meet people, you know, they're they're like, oh my gosh.
I'm like, if they're not inthe industries, like you worried about
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me being part of my life,I'm probably more healthier than anyone you fucked
this whole year, you know,Like I said, I get tested every
two weeks. You know, Idon't sleep outside the industry for real,
And so it's like I'm pretty responsible, and you know, my health is
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like my party, because if myhealth is not together, then I can't
work. I can't work, Ican't make money, you know. So
I'm not going to jeopardize myself overyou know, just that you know,
hooking up was like a random chit, you know. So, I know,
me being imporn, I've become alot more sexually responsible as opposed to
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when I was in my earlier thirtiesand twenties, for sure. But I
would say that's the biggest misconception isthe fact that like we're just sexually irresponsible
and overly promiscuous. You know,I don't think that's the case. Okay,
I know for a fact that that'snot the case. I mean we
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treat it like a profession, likeor a straight up profession, and like
like I still even have to havethe conversation with like my girlfriend as far
as like when she when I wantto have sex after I've had a scene,
and she's like, dude, youjust fuck like two girls, Like
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what's up? And she doesn't understandthat I don't count that as sex,
you know. I mean, yes, it's the act of having sex,
but I don't really count it.I'm not exactly So this is what I
need. I need, I needto be fulfilled. I need that intimacy,
you know. And so it's Istill struggle with having to convey that.
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And and it's difficult for people outsideof porn to understand. Wow,
you know, as you when yousay that. And I'm going to be
very honest, a lot of menthat's been in the industry that they it's
been very hard for them to haverelationships with women outside because the whole thing
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is, you know, that popshot is that shot that you you know
that that's that money shot, andso a lot of them have to be
able to build up because you know, sometimes you guys shoot three four times
a day, and so for themthey can't really go home and do to
do with their girlfriend of their wiveslike normal people can. Now for you
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to say, oh yeah, afterI finished under them, I could still
go back and do it, youknow, to do and do And I'm
just gonna be honest, how longdo you think that's gonna last? Like
that? And what's what's your secret? So folks can know what's your secret?
So so yeah, that's a greatquestion. So I do therapy physically.
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Therapy started this stuff called sound wavesand so that's you've heard of that,
mm hmm. Yeah. So soyeah, I'm I'm at the at
the at the doctor, the eurologist. They doing the sound waves on me
and you know, doing PRP injections, you know, so we we're doing
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all that because I mean I investedthree thout three three five thousand dollars on
my area this month alone. Yeah, so you know, uh, I
think that's my secret. And thenjust making sure, like my hormone levels
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are good. I think that's themost important thing, is the hormone levels,
because when your tea is low,that really impacts your libido or your
mood and your everything your erections.So you know, making sure that if
your tea is not in a goodnormal range, then you know, take
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steps, whether it's like hormone replacementor increasing the amount of test around your
body testosterone that your body does produce. So those are my secrets. Okay,
okay, all right, So nowI'm let me get this. I
want to make sure that I saythis this question correctly. All right.
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So going into the industry, andyou said I'm doing this on the weekends,
I might as well get paid todo this. Now, I'm assuming
that you watched the dope porn thatyou watched it. Have there been any
performers that you liked? I wouldlove to work with that performer. There's
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there's a lot of performers. SoI didn't watch a lot of porn.
I did watch some sporadically, butnot like consistently. But there was some
performers where it's like I had thebookmarked, and so when I got a
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chance to actually work with them,it was like a crazy experience where it's
like I have I had to becool, you know, I had to
act cool. I couldn't act likeI was a fan boy or anything like
that, you know, And Ididn't even tell them that I was a
fan until like after we were cooland like, you know, a year
later or something like that. Youknow, but there is definitely a lot
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of not a lot, but thereare some performers that I used to watch
mm hmm, and it's it's acool it's a cool experience. And when
you get to meet those those people, you know, I think Arabella Raphael
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and Monica Santiago or two that cometo mind. M h Yeah, okay,
now you had a nice little piecewritten on you from a New York
Post. How did that come about? Yeah, so you know, you
know, it's just being in corporateAmerica and being in a lot of media
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that go viral. I was inthis reality show called for the Love of
Lenna, and that was a realityshow produced by Lenna the Plug and Adam
twenty two mm hmm. And itwas like a dating type of reality show
where we were all the guys,We're all buying for a seat to have
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a threesub with with Adam and Lena. And there were a lot of like
like pictures and clips that went viraleverywhere, like Facebook. I really I
really use Facebook, and people likesee it. They tagging my government name,
they texting my girlfriend like this,your boyfriend. Ain't everybody my dad
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talking about the people at church hittingme up? So it just went viral,
and so you know, every everyeveryone saw, you know, unfortunately
my mom mean because she doesn't knowhow to use the internet yet, but
if she did, she would havesaw and and just all that a lot
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of a lot of the things thatwere going viral just put me into the
position where people at work and seeit. You know, they recognized me,
you know, and then you know, I got recognized. All right,
So your last day at work,the last day as an aerospace defense
engineer, what did that look like? It went? It was it was
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crazy because there was a Monday andI was I was in bed chilling,
boxing it up, and because youknow, I take my time getting up,
and then I got a meeting noticelike from the director. I'm like,
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the director never talks to me.I mean he never like like reaches
out to me directly. You know, he always like ceses like my supervisor
or something like that. You know, my supervisor was even on the email.
It was hr So I'm like,oh ship, you know it someth
going on. So you know,the mean happened. They try to push
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it off as this is a costcutting measure, cost cutting initiative. I'm
like, yeah, whatever, youknow what I'm saying. Because the senior
manager that we had, I mean, she was talking about, man,
who you look familiar, like I'veseen you before, you know. I'm
like, nah, you ain't seenme before. Yeah, like people say
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that look like John Legend or TerrenceHoward, but you've never seen me before.
You thought you saw your TV.But that would be so so you
know those Yeah, I kind ofmade the inferences that that's what transpired.
Right, so they let you go. It's actually to be very honest,
you should be we see some didyou call it unemployment right? Oh yeah,
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oh yeah, oh yeah a littlebit, a little bit. That's
so crazy because last year this time, I actually put in my two weeks
notice because I was like, yo, I'm I'm done, and then uh,
they bagged me to stay. AndI was like, you know what,
that's pretty cool because I was andI was praying that I can get
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laid off one day. I'body,well, if I get laid off,
I get on unemployment seven. Butif I just quit anything, yes,
you know that's what. Yeah,that's a we win. All right,
listen this, We're gonna take aquick break and if you don't mind,
I'm gonna open up the lines forsome calls to come in. All right,
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Uh, guys, we're gonna openup the line six to six six
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We're gonna take a quick break andthen we're gonna come back and we're gonna
we're gonna continue this conversation with misterJohn Legendary. All right, Isha Girty
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He said, no, you ain'twith Season and Steph Love right now,
you ask, But we are herewith the sexy mister John Legendary.
Again, I thank you for beinghere with me and sharing this space.
(36:00):
Thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure. Yeah,
this has been a really great conversationhere. It has. I know you
said earlier today that you had somequestions for him. Mm hm, you
know some I'm go a little offoff Ken, you know. I know
you're you're a porn star, andthat's that's cool, that's what what being
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a aerospace defense engineer in my mind, what runs through my mind is that's
privately dealing with maybe some a littlebit of top secret stuff for what's going
on, which I know you can'ttalk about. That's fine, but with
the defense of of of our nation, you know, some things that make
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go on. I just want toask you, in your opinion, what
is the state of this country?Mm hmm that's a good question. I
mean the state for me, Ifeel like the state is pretty I wouldn't
even say linear. I would sayit's the same as always been, like
(37:04):
dysfunction, and it's it's always beenwhere we spend so so much resources on,
you know, allies, of supportingother countries where we don't take care
of our own. And you know, that's been the case for forever.
And so I haven't seen anything thatwas like like mind boggling like that that's
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transpired that you know, like damn, like damn that happened really like the
only time that's happened where I waskind of caught off guard rightfully, So
it was COVID. Mm hmmm.COVID like really shook me. But outside
of that, I mean, youknow, like, you know, black
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people are still getting treated a certainway. You know, black boys still
getting treated a certain way. Imean, there's there's no you know,
no improvement. I would say,we just I think our acceptance of it
just you know, kind of likepassifies it. But yeah, I don't
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I don't see I don't see itgoing worse. But I'm not I don't
see us moving the needle as faras it being a lot better. You
know. I feel like even likewhen when you consider like presidential candidates or
whatever, who's better, I don'tknow. I feel, you know,
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we both both Biden Biden Trump.Nothing happened to me, Nothing directly has
happened positively towards me with the currentadministration. Mm hmmm. Now with my
mother, there's been some positive things, you know, with with certain presidents
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but typically with me, it's like, you know, my income may be
higher, and you know I wasraised, you know, Democrats, so
it's like, you know, alot of the lower income programs, you
know, I grew up on welfare, those would benefit me and my family
or whatnot. But now it's likethere's not a lot of programs that benefit
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me, you know, especially whenthinking like tax credits and stuff like that.
And essially, the more you make, the more they take. So
you know that I just like yo, try to make as much money as
I can, try to support thepeople I love, and try to have
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meaningful relationships. And like Nao,we said, I was, I was
thinking about that question earlier before westart interviewing, But after hearing you on
an interview and just and just gettingto know you through through this interview here,
what went through my head, Like, damn, did he see something
in this country is fucked up?And he said, I'm going to be
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happy. I mean, that's that'sa good question, because you know,
it's so crazy because like in myindustry and the aerospace industry, like I've
always worked. I worked defense forall of one year, I worked commercial
maybe one year, but for seventeenor seventeen sixteen out of seventeen years,
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I worked defense pretty much, Andso that what that means is that my
customer is a military such as theArmy, the air Force, the Navy,
homeland security, or it's a FOREMmilitary like South Korea or Turkey or
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or whoever. And so i'm Iwas supplying weaponry to those militaries, you
know. And so with me froma corporate standpoint, I love it when
a Republicans in office because they wantto spend money on war, right,
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But from a from a moral standpoint, it's like, Yo, I was
raised Democrat, you know, soit's like I don't want war, you
know. So I was always conflictedin that regard as well. So yeah,
that's that's deep here, because Iunderstand that that won't spend all the
money all I tax money on wars. Yeah what y'all know that I don't
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know? Right? Yeah. Aerospacepeople they vote Republican all day because that
means that they have job security.Yes, yeah, mmmm, that's interesting.
All right, here's the question foryou. How do you handle criticism
and judgment from others regarding your careerchoices and what strategies do you use?
To stay true to yourself in yourgoals in the face of adversity. So
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as I'm sitting here listening to yourstory with your aero space in different I
mean in Republican and stuff like that. So literally, both career choices are
very, very challenging, especially whenit comes to our black community. Let's
just be honest when it comes tocommunity, for you have had how have
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you been able to tackle with thatcriticism? Yeah, that's it. How
have you been able to tackle withthe criticism? I've been able to tackle
it really great? Mm hmm becauseI don't care. I don't I literally
don't care what anyone has to say, and so I don't listen to it
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like it. And you know,people are always wondering like yo, like
like because it impacts everyone else somuch, or any type of criticism,
criticism impacts people's so much. Butat this point in my life, like
I turned forward in a few monthsand I'm like, yo, I know
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who I am, I know whoI'm not, and I'm on this earth
to live for me my loved ones, not to gain approval or a validation
from people who don't mean shit tome. So I handle criticism so well,
because I actually don't hear it.Like everyone else here is it but
(43:31):
me, because I think people knownot to come to me with criticism,
you know, like like from ina professional standpoint, I can't take criticism
really well, you know, likeif I'm in like corporate America, where
it's like, okay, well,you know you should do more training.
You need to do this that,you know, work on your public speaking
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skills and collaboration skills and getting buildingrelationship. I'm good with that, but
in this industry and my choices toget into this, I don't hear any
of it. You know. Theonly issues I have to deal with is
personally. What I feel like Ihave to deal with is like stereotypes,
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the race factor, you know,because like I'm not a ten twelve inch
guy. Okay, I'm considered aboveaverage and a great size, but as
far as porn is concerned, asfar as a black guy, I'm not
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the biggest guy. And so theytend to book black men for interracial scenes.
But they want to get who gotthe biggest dick, you know,
and then the other folks. It'slike, well, I want I really
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don't don't have to be in aracial I could do regular porn mm hmm.
But I'm like, I'm black.So it's like I want to get
casted the same roles these white boysgetting mm hmm, you know, like
my dig's beard and theirs, sothey about to dick. It's like,
I'm black, they're white. Ihave action, I have acting experience,
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you know, and so I wouldbe a great person to do a lot
of these roles. But so yeah, I mean it's like a catch twenty
two being black, you know,especially me, where it's like I don't
have my my my knees within mainstreamporn, you know. So that's kind
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of why I start producing my ownfor my own site, right that was
gonna be my next question going intocreating your own, your own platform,
your own you know, for thatFor me, when I came into the
industry, I kind of had likea plan on how I was going to
do it. Period. Branding inAWE for you, coming from you know,
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corporate world, coming into this,did you go in having a plan
on how you were going to brandJohn legendary and what impact were you looking
to make on the industry as amale, a black male performer. Yeah,
So I came into it having alreadybrand as a bull in the hot
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wife lifestyle. So you know,my brand and that was you know,
agitleman, I'm always dressed nice.You know, my social media was always
nice and so you know, Ihad good imagery, good messaging. So
I went to just I just tookthat and brought into this and that's what
I mean, Like there, I'mjust an extension of who I am.
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So it was not a lot ofwork to do. I just brought me
here. You know, a lotof my friends joke with me, like
who are we talking to? Likelike they they don't say, like my
real name and then my lifestyle nameand then my foreign name. I'm like,
and they're so confused because they don'tknow who they're talking to. And
I'm like, yeah, I'm thesame person. You know, everything about
(47:24):
me is the is the same.And so yeah, I just wanted to
make sure that I branding myself ina way that I was proud of,
you know, because once on theInternet, it lives forever. Yeah yeah,
and so I was like, whatever'son there, I wanted to look
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good. That's how I branded myself, Okay, you know, like like
even even with like in a relationship. It's like he may be doing this,
but at least it's tasteful. Iwant. I want my stuff to
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look tasteful and for people to beproud of what I'm doing, even if
you're not. If they're not proudof what I'm doing, you know,
like I don't like what he's doing, but his stuff looks good. That's
what I want. You know,if you had any advice to anyone,
especially man, because the thing isI get him all of my DM saying,
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you know, I want to bethis, I want to be and
I always tell him it's not easyfor you. What advice would you give
them? Know what type of valueyou want to bring to the industry?
Knowing what you can offer that likesomeone can like what's your niche, what's
your branding? Being able to investlike I've had to invest so much resources,
(48:52):
money, time, energy, relationshipson the industry. Like if you're
not about that, if you're notwilling to make those sacrifices, then you
probably shouldn't do it. You know, be good at sex, you know,
or or yeah you have to begood at sex or at least willing
to learn, because yeah, youdon't have to be good at sex because
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there was a lot of performances school. Yeah, at least be willing to
learn. So I would say thoseyeah, no, no, your most
memorable scene, you'll be professional.Yeah, professional, your most memorable scene,
Like that's the best scene ever tothis day. You like, yeah,
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I can do this scene for free, or you will have to say
that was a good day. Yeah. Yeah, I had a scene like
that. I actually produced it.It was my first origin and and I
had initially called like twenty five peopleto come be in this orgy, and
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you know a lot of people sayyeah there was there was interested or whatnot.
I had a couple of guys whoI say, I want you to
come too. I have a lotof girls here. And the day of
people kept dropping out and I'm like, okay, well, as long as
I got my buddy here, wegood mhm. And then it ended up
being I think five girls and me. He couldn't even come. And so
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it was like me and five girlsand these are like big name girls,
like top of the industry girls,and and I did. I was nervous
because I didn't know. I've neverbeen with that men and woman at once.
The most I've been with is probablytwo, right, But then I
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had to like navigate five bodies andI was the producer, you know,
but I felt accomplished. I didit well and it looked great and it
was definitely one of my favorite scenes. But that that just brought up my
confidence, Like, Yo, youcan do anything now. I mean you
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was able to go like an hourlong with like five of the baddest in
the game and you didn't mess upthe scene. Like it was so good
that we was at the hotel wasthe w in Hollywood. The security guard
they heard us off the elevator,you know, we was at the corner
suite, so they knocked on thedoor when there was in the scene.
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So yeah, that was probably mymost favorite scene. Mm. Is that
the one you won an award forit? Because he did win an award
for it. The Oh no,I won award for the black raw orgy
scene. Oh my gosh. Thatwas like eighteen people. They was like
twelve guys, six girls. Thatwas a lot. That was a lot.
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Yeah, that was two years ago. M hm. Yeah, I
won that last last January. Iwon that award aaban IF for best Orgy
with a black craw. Yeah.That was wild. That was that was
a two day scene. That wasa two day scene. Yeah. Yeah,
they did like the sex part onone day and then then the dialogue
(52:20):
next on the next day. Yeah, that was a wild scene. Okay,
all right, So let me askyou this. I know it has
been questioning. This is a longtime ago, so I don't know if
what's going on now in the industryis that at one time there were a
lot of especially male performers that willperform gay porn and then come and perform
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mainstream for What are you and whatare your thoughts on that? I think
my personal beliefs is I feel likeif you are doing some type of like
gay for pay mm hmm, youshould disclose that, you know, because
I feel like it's a it's courtesy, it's respecting just to disclose that,
(53:07):
especially if you're like performing under adifferent alias, a different stage name.
I think you should disclose that.And that's just my personal opinion about it.
I know there's a lot of crossoverperformers and poor and that's cool because
like everyone knows who they are,right you know, like you you can
(53:29):
go to their Twitter because they're they'rethey're doing crossover with the same name.
But if you were doing like gayfor pay, you know, three years
ago, two years ago now undera different name where I can't go to
your your social accounts and cross referencethat, right, then you're not You're
(53:49):
not allowing me to make a decision. Now if as as a woman,
I would imagine, because in everythingI always feel that you should give women
their information so they can make thedecision. Yeah. The answer still may
be like yes, let's do it, mm hmmm, or maybe no.
But I feel like it's her rightto choose, but she can't choose like
(54:14):
like good if she doesn't have allthe facts. Yeah, so I feel
that, you know, if someonedoes gave her pay, they should definitely
disclosed that information to the talent pool. What does the next few years look
like for John legend Jerry. Iwant to get into like more. I
(54:37):
want to I want to build outLegendary X my website and I want sorry
my things went out, I wantmore into yeah, my legendary ex website,
as well as more into mainstream acting. I I was on this uh
(55:01):
HBO Max TV show Rap Shit lastyear and being on set at you know,
Sony's lot, that was the mostcoolest surreal experience of my life period
my life. I'm like having myown trailer and having the folks wonder like
makeup and air brush my tattoos.I never seen nothing like that. So
(55:24):
I said, yo, I wantmore of this. So I've been taking
acting classes, improv classes, sketchwritingclasses because I want to, you know,
focus more on mainstream opportunities as opposedto porn. I mean, porn
is like something I enjoy, butit's nothing that I want to do forever.
(55:47):
You know, it's it's it's it'sdefinitely helps build by platform and get
some type of fan base and loyalty. But yeah, I want to go
to mores towards like the mainstream sideof things. Hmmm. I like that.
So next question, influences. Haveyou had any influence even before you
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came in the industry When you lookat the males that's been in the industry
before, you have anybody just trulylike influenced you. Like okay, yeah,
like you know what I mean.Yeah, yeah, I would say
the one guy that I always rememberedhe was always in the movies is my
frat brother actually Lexington Still and sothat's my guy right there, And meeting
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him was so crazy because it waslike, dude, like I really looked
up to him, you know,I still do at medium in person,
and we're both you know, sayingfrat and we we got each other's numbers
and we hung out. Like he'sa cool dude, So I I appreciate
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him. Guys like that, youknow, even mister Marcus. Ms Marcus
was real nice. Like I usedto watch him, you know, he
would be on the videos and Imet him. He knows me, and
so him knowing me was an experienceas well, like oh shit, you
don't mean like that's legendary status.Baby wait. I was like damn,
(57:31):
but I like, you know,and then like another one is a nat
turner her Like I remember I sawhim at the club in La like a
few like a lot of years,like maybe like five years ago, and
I went up to I'm not inporn. I'm not even thinking about porn
at all. Like I went upto him like, yo, I used
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to watch you. I like yourshit, you know, and it was
so cool like eating him. Andthen a couple of years later, like
exbis, I ran into him likeyo, hey I'm actually poorn now,
you know. So those, youknow, I would say those three guys,
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not turn her, you know,mister Marcus Lesson. Still, those
are three guys that I remember,like if I seen him, you know,
in public, like yo, that'sthat's that's that's him, you know.
Yeah, those are three. Thoseare I think the only three guys
that I remember that I actually seenout and continue to see this today.
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Okay, that's the question that Iusually have for the women. And I
can't even I mean I don't Idon't even know who to even choose for
you in that aspect because I don'tknow the girls the South there. And
I was trying to pick your braina little bit when I was asking you
what you know and you only saidone girl that's it? And you know
(59:02):
my b TG. Yeah, no, we we do this thing called and
I'm trying to make sure that Isaid the correct words without us getting being
what I say. The the kK is yeah, un alive, un
alive, it's un alive Mary orjust bu. And so I usually asked
(59:30):
them the three three and I givethem three performers. I give them the
performers and the lie. So Ican't say the word because it's you know,
we we can't can't say the words, so it's un alive. Yeah
yeah, talking about yeah yeah yeah. Right. So I'm just gonna pick
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three girls, I mean women justout of mindy say Alexas Texas. I
know, I don't think she's doneany black men yet, but we're gonna
say her Alexis Texas. She's justrecently really yeah, yeah she just did.
Yeah that was like the first Yeahshe just did. I think maybe
like a month or two a yeah, oh wow. All right, so
(01:00:19):
you know, we got Alexis Texas, and I'm breaking some out of out
of retirement too for you. Allright, Alexas Texas, Jada Fire,
and Bella Donna. Now, whoBella Donna? I don't even know who
that is. You don't know whoBella Donnie? Okay, so let me
(01:00:40):
pull that back, let me letme let me pull that back there.
Okay, let me pull that back. Did I say awesome? Who awesome?
I don't know what that is?Either? No, okay, hold
on, let me let me.I didn't watch too much poor but god.
(01:01:04):
Okay, So I gave you,I gave you a Lexus Jada,
and I'm trying to pick one fromthe Christina Rose. Do you know that?
Do you know her? This iswhat I used to watch, like
Jazmine Cashmere. We're gonna put jazzin there those three? Uh? All
(01:01:28):
right? So Mary, f aalive? Oh oh well that's a good
question. All right, all right, f has to be Jada mm hmm,
(01:01:52):
because yeah, that what I usedto watch her, So yeah,
got me on warm and then man, that's a good question, man,
(01:02:15):
Mary Ah, I would probably sayAlexis only because I wouldn't say, like
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it's almost like a default like Jasmine. I know she's like very different now,
you know, like very different,So I know it wouldn't even work,
you know what I'm saying, Soshe can be alive, you know
at I don't know, man,I might have to switch it back.
(01:03:05):
I think I might say alesis Texas. I might have to marry Ja.
That's that's one video I used toas a video when I was younger.
I was like twenty three, no, twenty two, twenty one. I
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was twenty one, twenty two,and I used to have her video on
repeat. So yeah, I mighthave to marry her, okay, because
I wouldn't eat that every day.Yeah, I would need that day,
Okay, three very iconic performers starsthat we had to choose from, so
(01:03:50):
I know it was it was difficult, but you got through. I've probably
seen every Jazzmine Cashmere video and that'swho I would be. My girlfriend is
is uh? I think we're probablyabout the same age. I don't know,
but I was like, yo,if I seen her, I'm about
the wife her up. You know, I was in love with Jasamine cash
(01:04:14):
Mare, bad at love with her. Yeah, yeah, she gotta Okay,
all right, well you know whatthis we are come to the end
of our show, and I trulyappreciate. I enjoyed this whole conversation.
How about you, Michael? Ienjoyed as well. Yeah, this was
good. Is there anything that youwant to want to share? Are you
(01:04:36):
working on anything new? You know, tell tell listen. I'm going to
be producing continually producing more from mywebsite Legendary ex So yeah, just you
know, make sure check that outis very sexy. If I must say,
uh, and then you just checkout my socials Twitter. We had
(01:05:00):
miss Legendary trip lex Instagram. JohnLegendary Underscore check me out. On season
two, episode six of Rap Shit, Do Not Blink. You may miss
me and yeah, well that isawesome. I mean, seriously, thank
you so much for sharing this spacewith us here on ax Laomi Man,
(01:05:25):
I'm I wish you all the luckand you are always welcome back, do
you true? True? I wouldlove that. I would love that.
Always welcome back. And again,congratulations on all that your endeavors that you
have done even before the industry duringand definitely I'll be watching for you.
But again, thank you, guys. This is the the iconic in the
(01:05:48):
making, mister John legendary. Thankyou. I appreciate you, guys.
I have a good one, allright, all right, guys, it's
your gurty God is not mere?On ax Lay Bridget Again podcast. That
was definitely a great interview And whenyou really think about it, just in
this interview alone was bridging the gapin so many different ways. It really
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was in so many different ways.And I just thank him for just being
very open, honest and just beingreal. That's what I'm talking about.
That's that authentic conversation type of thing. Yeah, but we did have him
sweating a little bit at the endwith that, hafter him to choose through
those three iconic ladgs. But again, I want to thank you all my
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beautiful people that I hear later thisweek, later this month, excuse me,
we have another very special guest that'scoming on. But again I thank
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