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September 18, 2024 • 25 mins
Interview about Neuropathy

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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Hey, Good morning, Dallas full Worth. Welcome to another It's
the Expert Show. This is our thirteenth year and I
got to tell you our next expert since he came
on for the first time last month, and I think
it was the Board certified neuropathy that brought so much attention.

(01:17):
We've had more people in the last two weeks asked
us when doctor Uselton's show was going to be coming on. Well,
we have doctor Tim and let's welcome him.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Well, hello there, Thanks, good morning, Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
How are you today, Tim? I got to tell you something.
This is our thirteenth year, and we promote you as
I mean, your board certified neuropathy. And I got to
tell you we even got people as far as Houston
contact me. It's wanting to know when your show is

(01:56):
going to be coming on next. I don't mean to
put all this pressure on you, but for some reason,
and I've just like I said, this is our thirteen period. Tim,
I have never seen a health category become this popular.
People wanting to know what they can do, and so
we're so lucky to have you on today. Tell us

(02:18):
about your practice.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Okay, we're here in Carrollton, Texas, which is a suburb
just north of Dallas. We have been established here since
nineteen ninety nine. But back in twenty and eighteen, I
got board certified along with my providers here in the
clinic to specifically treat peripheral neuropathy, you know, and It
doesn't surprise me that it's such a popular topic because

(02:45):
or what most people don't understand about it is that
it's really difficult to treat and there's no one with
a great answer out there. On the general practitioner, the
PCP side of things. They send you to a neuropathy
the doctor, or they send you to a neurologist, and
the neurologists test the nerves and says, Yep, you got it.

(03:05):
They still are left with no real, real good way
to treat it. And so through my studies and my
board certification, we've learned some of the causes and some
of the best known treatments out there that are not
just another drug or you know, dealing with the feet
and toes as you start to lose them and amputate them,

(03:28):
and so there's something you can do before that. And
that's what we're here to talk about today. So I'm
excited to be here again.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Him. I got to tell you this is something that
you cannot ignore. I mean, I've heard about amputations before.
A lot of the texts that we got where people
want to know, how do I know if I have neuropathy,
as some of them would say, how they have problems

(03:55):
with balance, tingling it not only the feet, but in
the fingers. But most of them want to know, how
do you know if you might add neuropathy.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Well, we start with just a basic checklist of some
of the common causes. Then the number one cause, of
course is diabetes. Now why does a diabetic person get
neuropathy symptoms. It's quite simply, the spikes in the blood
sugar over a period of time have increased the inflammation,
and that inflammation has choked off the blood supply. And

(04:31):
so when you start having you know, the blood supply
is what delivers the oxygen and the nutrition to the tissues,
and so if you cut off that nutrition and that oxygen,
then we know what happens.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
The nerve dies.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
And so it's the most distal, meaning the furthest away
from the heart, the source of what's pumping the blood.
And so that's why you get it in your toes primarily.
It doesn't skip to your knees or to your hips
or to your elbows. It starts in the tips of
your toes, the tips of your fingers, the very bottom
of your feet, the furthest away point. That's the most

(05:07):
common cause. But we know Other causes as well are
injuries to the nerve, lack of vitamin B twelve. Certain
medications can cause neuropity.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Another big one.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
You know that milin sheath that surrounds that nerve that
helps it conduct that electricity, so to speak. It's like
the plastic coating on the outside of the extension cord
that's around each nerve, and that's milin, and that myolin
is consisting of cholesterol. So certain medications that are lowering

(05:39):
your cholesterol can be taken for too long or too much,
and it can actually break down that cholesterol. That's a
good protective coating, and now you start getting the exposure
of those nerves and that'll lead to those neuropty symptoms.
Alcoholics have a higher incidence.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
So again it.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Goes back to the inflammation and the sugar that that
alcohol converts to in our bodies. So you know, certain infections,
sometimes aspartame in studies, has been linked to causing neuropathy.
Aspertain is the artificial sweetener that's in most diet drinks
or drinks that have the word zero, you know, like

(06:16):
Coca zero, Pepsi zero, those types of drinks.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
People are saying, yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
But I'm not getting the sugar, yeah, but you're getting
the substitute, which may be better for calories in your body,
but it's still one of the causes that we know of.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
And then about forty.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Percent of the customers that come into here with some
sort of symptom of neuropathy, they have some sort of
compression on the nerve. And the way I explain that
to folks is like if you're running a garden hose out.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
To the middle of a field to keep a.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Tree alive, and you set a brick anywhere on that
garden hose, it doesn't matter where the end result is.
The tree way out there dies, and so we remove
the compression on those spinal nerve roots as well.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
So we look for all.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Those things a multifaceted approach, but we look at nutrition,
we look at, you know, the structure of the spine
in and around those nerves, and we also look at
the nerve health themselves. We can tell you by based
on the sensory loss that a person has through testing
in our office that they do have it and how

(07:19):
severe it is.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
It just got a first Texas is from Jane and Plano. Okay,
I was one of the people who've been writing you
when the next show would be a neuropathy. I have
problems with balance and I'm a diabetic. Am I a
candidate for neuropathy?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (07:43):
It sounds like you may already be dealing with neuropathy
and the fact that you're a diabetic that's what most
of them are, and also the fact that you're already
losing your balance.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
You know.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Oftentimes it's not the initial numbness in a person's toe
that get them to pick up the phone and call
in and say I need to fix MINOROPTHI. It's when
they've let it go so far that now they're having
an issue with standing or with walking, or with feeling
the pedals in their vehicle underneath their feet. A lot
of times they report they can't drive because they can't
tell if they're pushing the break hard or if they're

(08:16):
pushing the accelerator hard because they don't have that feeling.
So and then then the worst case scenario is that
they actually fall and break a hip. And then it's like, Wow,
you had an opathy for how long? Oh, I've had
it for eight years or ten years, and it just
started with a numbness. Well, at that point it's kind
of gotten out of control and it's too far gone.
So we would like to catch people when they first

(08:36):
start to get the numb feelings or the pain. Sometimes
the symptoms coming to the brain and to tell you
that you're dealing with it are more than just numbness.
Sometimes you feel a sharp pain, sometimes you feel a
burning sensation. Other times it's a tingle. Other times it's
a I don't like to wear socks, or I don't
like to put my feet under the covers in bed

(08:58):
at night because that just ere it hates my feet
or my legs, my calves, and those are all signs
that you do have in her opthee and that you
need to get it checked.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Out sooner than later. So I appreciate the question there.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Well, we already have another one from Carrollton. Jenny and Carrollton.
Thank you Steve O for bringing such a great show.
Would you please ask your expert if he can treat somebody? Oh,
I see what they're saying. She's in Arlington and your

(09:33):
office is in Carrollton. How do they have to come
to the office.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
So initially to do the proper diagnosis and the testing
it is required. We can't do that through telemed center
over the phone, but we do have at home programs
that allows us to treat people from much greater distances,
and we've had people flying here from Vegas, We've had
people consult with us from California, them all over this region,

(10:02):
throughout Texas, many cities in Texas, much much further than Arlington.
So yes, we can treat, but it makes it difficult
because we do need to see you at least that
first session to properly diagnose you, to make sure that
what we would offer you as treatments would work for you,
and that you're a good candidate. Most people, the initial

(10:23):
screen is like, yeah, I've got numbness in my feet, Well,
that makes you a good candidate to get screened, to
get tested. And then when we come back and say, okay,
your right foot is already showing signs of thirty or
forty percent sensory loss, but your left one is the
worst and it's showing forty to fifty or sixty even
percent sensory loss, then that kind of guides us and

(10:43):
directs us on do they need one or two of
the things that we know that help, or do they
need half a dozen things that we know might help,
because we really need to get out ahead of.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
It before it gets bad.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
But that's a great question, and we do treat patients
from Arlington, Grand Prairie, even as far as what Worth
on a regular basis here.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
In the office.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think this is going to be a state of
White show. We just got a text from somebody in Houston.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Okay, that's a ways a way.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I think I might be suffering from neuropathy. If I
were to fly in, how long would I need to
stay in for you to treat me?

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Okay, that's a great question, Like I answered just now,
you know it's twofold. We can do treatments here in
the office, and those treatments can last up to like
three to four months. But the treatments that we send
home with a person, they can be done daily. They
can be done twice a day to get even better results,
and they don't need to be here. So the initial

(11:43):
time of being here, we could get it all done
in a day.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
We could have a morning appointment where we do the testing,
and then we would put our team together in between
the two visits in the same day, and then you'd
come back the same day and you'd get all the
results and we could go from there.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Great question.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, that's and you know, this is only your second show.
I'm really surprised how many texts were already getting already.
This is really an important topic, Tim, I'm so glad
that we have you. What about dietary.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
You know, dietary is huge when it comes to neuropathy.
It's almost like you know, you're out in the middle
of a pond in your in your rowboat and it
springs leaks, and instead of fixing the leaks, you just
go to bail in water, and you know that there's
no real end in sight. The more you take on water,

(12:37):
the more you have to bail. And that's what it
is with our nutrition. When when our guts involved with
all these inflament, inflammatory changes that are happening in our
body because of those causes I talked about, then you're
just you constantly are putting out fires. And that's what
the medications that you get on oftentimes do. The most

(12:57):
common medication is gabapentin, and you know, it's something that
kind of slows down the perception of the things that
we're feeling. So it's not that it cures the problem.
It's not that it fixes the problem at the level
of the problem. It just kind of misinterprets. It changes
the way we feel about the problem, and it kind

(13:19):
of masks it with with you know, with a band aid,
so to speak. And so you know, when when it
comes to the metabolic health of a person that is
so important that they're getting the right nutrition, you know,
our approach here is a three pronged approach. When we

(13:39):
are consulting with someone if we know they have neuropathy
and we're talking about the ways we treat it.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
The first one is the structure.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Again, if something's pinching on a nerve, no matter how
nice you go out and talk to that tree in
the middle of the field, or you trim away the
dead branches or even the fertilized the soil around it,
if you don't go back at some point and remove
move the brick off of the garden hose that's delivering
the life force to that tree, is still going to die.

(14:06):
So we take the structure and we look at it.
We do an X ray, typically of the spine, and
we see where the misalignments are putting pressure on the
nerves and that's one thing one of the approaches. The
second approach is the nerves themselves. If they're already broken down,
if they already have decreased circulation, if they already are
starting to lose that protective coating of that mielin sheath

(14:28):
made of cholesterol that already talked about, then we do
things to rebuild that, to recoat that nerve in mielin,
to re distribute blood flow into that area.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
And so we have treatments that do that part of
the equation. And then the third is the metabolic health.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Person A in person B may look the same, may
have the same symptoms, and one responds good to these
first two treatments, then the other one doesn't. And it's
because their actual metabolic health is different. To someone to
describe it like this to me one time, it's if
I want a plot of land and I'm growing a harvest,

(15:06):
and you're my neighbor, Steve, and you have a plot
of land right next to me, and you're growing a harvest,
and we get the same amount of sunlight, we get
the same amount of rain, but one of our crops
is much much higher yield. It produces a better yield
than the other than what do we look to. We
look to the soil, and if your soil is better

(15:26):
than my soil, you're going to produce a better outcome
and you're going to grow things at a healthier rate.
And so we look at the person and say, are
you toxic, are you acidic? Are you an alcoholic? Do
you have poor nutritional habits? And if we can correct
some of those things, it's like the longer term approach. However,
it's so vitally important because it's ultimately what is patching

(15:49):
up the holes in that rowboat so that you're not
continually having to bail. Eventually you get them off patch
to get your nutrition in good shape, and then that
non inflamed tissue has you know, probably probably seventy five
percent of our cases, the person is requested to make
some dietary changes, some ad additional supplementation to their body

(16:12):
to put out all those inflammatory conditions that are attacking
the nerves. So it's a great question and it is
very important we incorporated into all of our treatments because
it just makes a person healthier, It makes them respond better,
it makes them more receptive to the rebuilding of the
nerves and the blood flow to those nerves.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Okay, this one, this text must be from one of
your relatives. Tim, This is from Waco, Texas. Okay, they
want to know. They said, first of all, you are
a godsend. I am going to bring my mother in.
My question though, is somebody is advertising here in Waco

(16:55):
that laser treatments gets rid of the ropithy your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Okay, So lasers is one of the ways that a
person can see some spikes in there. What a laser does,
without getting too scientific, inside the cell, there's the center
of the cell. It's called the mitochondria, and that's where
the energy gets produced in our cells in our body.
And so the laser stimulates the mitochondria to kind of

(17:23):
wake up and become alive and start to work better.
So that's one of the treatments that a person can
go about at kind of stimulating that new activity and
that growth. Ultimately, I believe that although that's very, very helpful,
and I'm not against it in any way, you've got
to do something that also stimulates the blood flow because

(17:44):
without that circulation, again, that oxygen and that nutrition is
not supplied to the tissue. And that's when anybody who's
had an amputated toe. Worst case scenario, they're losing their toes.
It's because the tissue has died because blood flow to
the nerve has been diminished, and so if we can
stimulate that blood flow. And I'm not exactly sure how

(18:07):
the laser will stimulate the blood flow. I know that
it works on the cellular level, at the modochondria. But
that's a great question. I appreciate there's somebody in Waco
that's that's attempting because there is just no real, real
good answer to it. Otherwise without these types of things
that we talk about.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, it just seems like there's so many people with
that are suffering with neuropathy, and I think there's a
lot of doctors out there that do not know how
to treat it. And that's what's so wonderful about your show.
What about Do you recommend any kind of supplements at all?

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Sure, the supplements that we recommend, I can give you
just a basic list, but you know, the right B
vitamins are crucial to nerve health. We use vitamin B one,
vitamin B six, and of course vitamin B two twelve
because that's one of the causes deficiency of B twelve.
We use alpha lipoic acid. A new study came out

(19:07):
about alpha lipoic acid and when taken orally in the
right doses, which is actually a higher dose than the
bottle recommends when you're trying to reverse something like neuropathy,
and up to thirty five percent of the cases they
experience a change for the better in their neuropathy symptoms
within the first four weeks of taking it. So it's

(19:30):
a supplement you can buy. It's not very expensive. We
have high quality products that we offer here, but alpha
lipoic acid is one of those for sure. There's acetyl
el carnatine, omega three fatty acids, magnesium curcumen in, acetyl sixteen,
coenzyme Q ten like co q ten, vitamin D, and

(19:53):
then gamma linylaic acid, and you know, those are kind
of a basic list in.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
The proper order.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
I would start with the lowest hanging fruit, which would
be the bees and the alphalipoic acids. But some people,
you know, they get a little tick up and feeling
better and they want to know how to really go
at this nutritionally, and so I would say those are
a good place to start.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
You know, again, when.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
You start really changing the nutrition inside the body, you're
giving it what it needs. Kind of like those raw
materials to make the cake, you can't kind of leave
out a few of them and hope to get a
good cake out of it. You know, if you don't
put in the baking powder, or if you don't put
in the right flour, then you get a flat cake,
or you get you know, a cake that doesn't have.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
The right flavor or consistency. So yeah, those are all
important to nerve health.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
And it's a great place to start if someone wanted
to kind of just start going about it on their own,
and you know, they've been to the medical doctor and
the medical doctor has said, well, you have neuropathy, there's
no good cure for that. Try this GABA pens and
they give you a prescription, and then it starts to
have all these side effects and you start feeling these
other things going on. You know, it's like what else

(21:06):
could I do? Then this is definitely a great place
to start nutrition. And you know, these days with the Internet,
you can just get on and google, you know, what
are the best supplements that a person with neuropathy should
be taking. And most search engines will bring you to
a list similar to this.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
And what other areas do you treat?

Speaker 4 (21:27):
We treat well.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
We started, you know, way back in the day in
nineteen ninety nine when I first opened and we were
treating back pain. We were treating people after they had
been injured in a car accident, like with a whiplash.
So that's kind of the basis where we started over
twenty five years ago, and since then we've kind of
gone into this neuropathy space, but we also are heavy

(21:51):
into the disc damaged space, which we use non surgical
spinal decompression therapy oftentimes. Like I mentioned, about forty percent
of our customers that have a neuropathy symptom, they also
have a compressive type situation going on, so there's a
pinch on the nerve in addition to like a blood
flow to the nerve at the end, and so we

(22:12):
treat the nerves and the neuropathy patients with the decompression
patient that treatment protocol. As well, we do some IV
nutrition therapy, which is where a person comes in and
we can figure out where their deficits are, if they're
low in.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
B three or B twelve or magnesium.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
We do lab testing on the front end that allows
us in to put together a complete package and then
when we put it into an IV and drip it
directly into the body, that way you get a ninety
nine plus percent absorption rate. So the pills are great,
the supplements are great, but you're getting sixty to eighty

(22:53):
percent of what you think you're getting. And then the
IV you're nearly getting one hundred percent of exactly where
it is and it's immediate you fill it in your
book upstream while you're on the chair getting it done.
So we do that we you know, here lately it
seems like we've been getting a lot of post surgical
rehab patients in the office because we have a full
scale physical medicine clinic that we operate in the same buildings.

(23:14):
So so you know, we've had probably two or three
post surgical knees on patients that have shown up this
week saying, uh, you know, I need PT because the
doc went in and cleaned out my moniscus, or I
got a total knee replacement, or I had an infection
and now I need to rehab the joint. And so
we do the post surgical rehab here as well. So

(23:35):
it's not a one stop shop. We can't see every condition,
but we do see a lot of different patients.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Kim, give everybody your phone number and your website. For
the people who are listening on radio right now, are
the podcast you bet.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Our number here at the office is nine seven to
two four seven eight five five three eight. Again, that's
nine seven to two four seven eight five five three eight.
The website is just the name of our clinic. It's
called Trinity Integrated Medical dot com. That's t r I
n I T Y I N T E g R

(24:11):
A T E d M E d I c A
l dot com Trinity Integrated Medical. You can visit there.
You can contact us with a form on our website.
You can call the office directly and speak with one
of our staff members. We're here to help. We're here
to answer your questions. We're here to get you scheduled
for a test to see if anything we can do

(24:34):
might help you. If you're kind of sick and tired
of being sick and tired, we have treatments now for
that with our IV nutrition helps with fatigue and so
it's super exciting that we get to see the difficult
cases and then when we see them get results that
they hadn't gotten and they're pleasantly surprised because they've kind
of given up hope.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
It just makes our day.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Tim will be back again with us next month. We
will let you know the data of this next show.
Thank you for all the people who took the time
to text us. Tim, thank you so much. We'll see
you next month. You're welcome, Thank you, and that's going
to be it for us today. We'll be back again
with you next month, next week, next month, next week

(25:18):
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