March 6, 2025 • 21 mins
Want to create a deeper connection with your readers? In this episode of Author Nation, we explore Using Your Vibe to Connect With Readers with Dr. Jason Del Gandio. Learn how authors can influence readers and shape their writing style to enhance engagement. Whether you're writing fiction or nonfiction, your vibe plays a crucial role in how readers experience your work!
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📌 Key Takeaways:
- How authors can influence readers by understanding and shaping their vibe
- Writing strategies for reader engagement that make your book more immersive
- The role of narrative voice, word choice, and sentence structure in creating a compelling reader experience
- Practical exercises to become more aware of and refine your personal and writing vibe
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to Douthonation. Today, we're going to dive into talking
about vibe and how vibe can help you connect with
your readers. I'm Melody and your host, and we're here
to share with you useful advice and strategies to help
you succeed as an author. And for part of that,
you can go into authonation dot online to access a
treasure trove of resources just for you. So whether you're
(00:35):
sitting in your morning coffee or out for a long
walk listening in as you walk, let me introduce our guests.
Jason del Gandio has a PhD in Communications studies and
has been studying vibes for thirty years. He's a published
author and award winning teacher and an engaged intellectual. For
(00:58):
his doctoral work, he developed his own philosophy of the vibe,
referred to as bodily emanation. He has published essays on
the topic in both scholarly and popular presses. His latest
project is called twenty Minute Vibe, which is an educational
space for learning about the vibe, offering videos, essays, and
self paced video lectures for people who are intellectually curious.
(01:22):
He also currently is working on an academic book about
vibes tentatively entitled, and you should always have a good
working title, right, Vibe talk, How and why people talk
about vibes. Let's welcome Jason Delgandio to the show. Hi,
welcome to Douthination.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Hi Melodie, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I am fantastic, So I need to just jump right
in and start by asking what do you mean? Because
you know we're both in communication here, right, so we
both know we have to agree on the definition. What
do you mean when you say vibe?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Sure? Well, first, backup, first, split second here, and I
want you to invite your listeners to take note over
the next week or so how often they either use
the word vibe or they hear someone else use the
word vibe. And that could be in face to face conversation,
over text messages, in a song, on television, in a movie, etc.
And I almost guarantee you'll be surprised how often you
(02:17):
hear the word vibe or some variation of so vibe,
vibes and the plural vibrations, energies, frequencies, mood, atmosphere, so
on and so on and so on. Now, in terms
of the most basic definition I can think of, we
can think of vibes as the exchange of energy between
you and other people. So again, the exchange of energy
between you and other people. Now the first question, though,
becomes what is the nature of this energy? So for instance,
(02:40):
is this energy a physical phenomenon or a metaphysical phenomenon?
Is it material or immaterial, scientific or spiritual? Perhaps all
these things and then some. And then to drive home
the point though, I want to provide a few examples
for your listeners rights. So for instance, think of that
going on a first date. And usually for a first date,
(03:01):
we evaluate that date in terms of the connection we
have between ourselves and other people. But that connection is
often translated into the word or terminology of vibes. So
for instance, it was a good vibe, a bad vibe,
a romantic vibe, a sexual vibe, a timic vibe, a
weird vibe, and so on. Or think about going to
a music concert and you're there with thousands of people.
You're all there for the same reason, listen to the
(03:23):
same music, and all of a sudden, your bodies fall
into rhythm and fall into sync with each other. And
that's an embodied experience that we often call a vibe.
Like at the concert on the dance floor. Some kind
of example would be at a sporting event. You're there
with twenty thirty forty fifty thousand other people, You're all
cheating for your team. Your team wins at the end,
and you feel the electricity in the stadium right or
on the flip side, though, we talk about bad vibes
(03:44):
and negative vibes. So for instance, let's say it's a
really intense work meeting and everyone there is in a
bad mood, the boss on everyone's case, and it's literally
a bad vibe in that room, and you can feel
that in your body. They Conversely, think about your friends
or your family members. Sometimes a good vibe or a
bad vibe. For example, maybe you get to argue with
your best friend and for a few hours, a few days,
(04:05):
or even a few weeks, the vibe between you and
the other person is off. Right. So these are all
basic examples of when we experience a vibe and how
we might define and explain a vibe.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, beautiful, thank you. I really like that. So I
want to talk a little bit before we talk about
writing a vibe. I want to talk a little bit
of just about you know, how you know, bringing a
vibe to our lives and in our every day. You
talked about being at worker with family. You know, I
want to have a positive vibe. I want to exude
(04:36):
a vibe that helps me connect with others. How can
I determine my own vibe? How can I exude the
vibe that I want to exude?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Sure? Oh, well, the first step really is becoming more
aware of the vibe, like vibes in general, and your
daily experience. The way I walk people through this is
at first, become more aware of your body and more
aware of your surroundings. Right, so, how do I feel internally?
How do I feel externally? Where am I at in
my immediate surroundings? Who am I with? How might my
surroundings be affecting me? Either positively or negatively? And then
(05:11):
I say that because you want to be more aware
of your space in place, because if you're just in
your head all the time, then you're kind of cutting
yourself off to the energies that we're now be talking about.
Right then, there, though, try to soften your ego and
soften your perception. In other words, think less with your
conscious mind and think more with your overall bodily awareness,
(05:31):
bodily intelligence, and bodily knowing. Right. Then from there, you
might try to imagine that your body is emanating or
radiating a certain kind of energy or a certain kind of vibe, right,
to try to imagine that and envision that your daily life.
And then from there though, try to lean into this
exchange of energy. Right. And I say that because although
everyone gets off a vibe and you all feel vibes,
(05:51):
it takes practice and you have to make kind of
a habit on a daily basis, and that will help
you out in your daily life with vibes.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, that's really cool. Well, you know, I've met people
who I feel like they just kind of walk around
angrily all the time. Right, they have this kind of
angry vibe, And then you meet somebody else and they
have this just really soft, gentle vibe. And then you
meet someone else who you know, who's bouncing through life, right,
kind of like the tigger vibe. Right, let's kind of
(06:24):
can we transition that to writing? Now? How might we
exude a vibe in our writing?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Sure? Well, the first thing I think of is narrative voice.
So what voice do I hear in my head when
I'm reading your work, what is the personality of this
author and this writer? Right? Then we can also think
about different writing choices, so, for instance, the choice of
vocabulary and language. Right, we might think of each word
(06:54):
as evoking a certain kind of feeling on the page.
We can also think about the length of a sentence
or the length of a paragraph the link of the
length of a chapter. Right, So if a sentence is
really long or a chapter is really long, it takes
more intellectual work to get through that as opposed to
short writing, which is a little bit easier. Right, Can
I'll talk about scene and setting like all these things matter? Right, So,
(07:16):
in many ways you might think about in terms of
thinking about in terms of what kind of world are
you evoking on the page? And then has that world
make people feel? Right? The other way of putting this
is that you can think of every writing choice as
a form of affect of communication, a thefta with an
a so a theft of communication. Right. And so again,
everything that you write, everything that you type, everything that
(07:36):
you produce is evoking some kind of affective experience for
the reader. And so you can be aware of that
as the author and try to make choices that evoke
and match the kind of vobs you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, yeah, And I've been thinking about this. I'd like
to add something and maybe your feedback on it. I've
been thinking about you know, a lot of people they
go to the beach in the summer and they want
to beach read because a B tread has a vibe.
It's a genre that has certain tropes that make us
feel a certain way. And then Halloween comes along and
we don't want to read beatreats. We want to read
(08:11):
you know, Stephen King and thrillers and you know, things
like that, and so you know, I'm thinking about vibe.
Would you agree that different genres hold their own vibe
through everything you've spoken about plus the tropes that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We use, Yeah, one hundred percent. I don't see. I
don't see why that wouldn't be the case, right, So
every genre, So again i'll just streak people which said,
I do agree that every genre has its own vibe,
and the vibe of that genre is partly defining that genre,
Like how does that genre make me feel internally externally?
(08:46):
When I talk about a certain genre with my friends,
what kind of discourse is evoked in our conversations, right,
all those kinds of things, And then I think about
other kinds of genres. So, for instance, a memoir is
by it's very nature, very personal, right, Like you're disclosing
part of yourself to the world, which is much more intimate. Right,
That's kind of the vibe of that genre. But then
(09:08):
I think on the other end of the spectrum, something
like a medical textbook, which tends to be very dry,
very fact based, could be very impersonal as well. Right now,
Having said that, though, I don't think something like a
medical book has to be so dry and impersonal, right
the author that you have the freedom to write that book. However,
you want to draw a loose analogy here. If I
(09:31):
think about going to an in person doctor visit, one
of the ways that I evaluate that visit that doctor
is by the bedside manner of that doctor. Is the
person supportive, is the person inviting, is the person encouraging,
et cetera? Right, And so why can't that same type
of experience be evoked on the page even in a
medical book. So if you're running that dry right, like,
(09:55):
think about these kinds of choices and place your clients
and patients at the center.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I one hundred percent agree with you. That is, you know,
it's it's it's interesting you say that, because that's something
I work with authors on. You know, they come with
these really dry topics, and the you know, and and
and the information is really interesting if you present it
in the right way, if you use stories, views, characters,
(10:22):
if you you know, and so part of what I
do is helping people take what they feel is for
them interesting but boring for the rest of the world,
and help them create something exciting with that. All right,
let's let's turn our attention a little bit for a
moment to you know, the vibe of an author off
the page. And so the example that comes to mind is,
(10:46):
you know, I often say to authors, Look, if you're
an author, you're in business, right you you have a product, right,
you have You're you're selling something. You know, you teach,
you teach, and you have you know, college aged kids
coming in in some ways, you know, they they talk
about you. They you know, we're always we're always selling something, right,
(11:07):
It's true. We're selling our kids broccoli at dinner, whatever
it is. We're always selling something or kind of persuade someone.
And yet when authors think about going out and talking
about their book, they start feeling like a used car salesman, right,
They feel like the vibe is iky, and I think
that just how they have, Like, how can you exude
(11:31):
a different vibe on how you feel inside? Is so
icky about what you're doing? Can you just comment on that?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Maybe walking through Steah, I could say a lot about this.
This is more of my forte than anything else. But
so at this point in my life, I've been to
and witnessed plenty of poetry readings, book readings, book promotions,
so on and so on and so on, and a
lot of authors and writers don't necessarily like being out
(12:00):
in public with people. They prefer to be home by
themselves and their office writing, et cetera. Which I totally understand.
I totally get it. I'm intellectual, I'm by myself all
the time as well. Right, But if you're going to
agree to do these book events, then use it as
an opportunity to present yourself to the world and not
just your book, right, but you as a person. Right.
So if I go to the bookstore and I buy
(12:21):
your book, I can read your book anytime I want.
This might be the only chance I ever get to
meet you in person or see you in person, so
use this as an opportunity. One way to think about
this is your like a performance on stage, and in
some case you might actually be on a stage, right.
But any good performer, any good public speaker, any good
musician or a comedian is aware of the performative moment
(12:42):
and knows how to live up to that moment. And
part of living up to that moment is the vibe itself. Right.
Try to focus on what vibe you want to emanate
out into the audience, and how will your vibe make
them feel? How will it entice them to like you,
to appreciate you and want to buy your book? Right?
And with that, you want to think about being sincere,
(13:06):
authentic and be yourself right. And one of the ways
to do that, though, is to be in the moment
and be present in the moments. Now. When I say that,
I don't mean just do it off the cuff, right,
You want to rehearse in practice, et cetera. Right, when
you get to that moment, though, try to be yourself
and be genuine, and most human beings respond favorably to
that kind of experience in that kind of vibe.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, I find that when I'm out and I see authors,
especially the newer authors, their you know, their first book,
they're kind of first tour, their first reading, they tend
to have the sense of apology around them interesting, right
that you know, it's like, well, i'm you know, I'm sorry,
I'm here to buy my book. I'm not sure I
(13:50):
deserve this space or the stage. And that's that's also
the vibe.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, And in some ways that's endearing because they are
being sincere that right, So I want to applaud that
and also applaud the fact that they're working outside of
their comfort zone. Right. At the same time, though, you
can work through that though and still be sincere while
also being self confident. Right, we by exuding a certain
kind of charisma. And actually that's a good word to
(14:16):
use here. So I think charisma and vibe are very
much related. Right. So, as an author doing book events
and promotional events, how can you develop your charisma right
in such a way that's enticing to other people? Right?
Use your charisma and I don't mean mug people for
their attention, because that's a different kind of thing, right,
that usually comes off fake and phony, right, But use
(14:38):
it as a way to again invite them into your
world and rate them with your presidence in a very genuine,
in sincere manner.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, brilliant, Thank you. So I love the idea of
Vibe and you can learn more about it and at
twenty minute vibe dot com. As as we said earlier, Jason,
you have videos there, you have self guided material, lots
of cool things. I think that sounds like a really
great place to go check out vibe. Thank you for
(15:08):
thank you for building that and if people want to
check it out, you can find it at twenty minute
vibe dot com. Okay, you are writing a book. Are
you writing a book for academics or are you writing
like an accessible book for people who do not have
a PhD in your area?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Somewhere in between. So, in many ways, it is a
book of scholarship, right. So, I'm working through other scholars
that have written about the Vibe. I'm working through certain
kinds of high end theories and philossies, but I'm trying
to make it accessible to someone who doesn't have a PhD. Right.
I don't believe that all knowledge and intelligence has to
(15:46):
be so esoteric an arcane that nobody can understand it,
especially writing our vibs, right, And so in many ways,
I'm really chronically chronicling how people talk about vibes, and
not just in the year twenty twenty five and in America,
but really throughout human history across different cultures, whether it's
North America, South America, Europe, Africa, Asia, so on, and
(16:07):
so on and so on. One of the things I've
discovered in this process of writing this book is that
the interest in human energy systems is global, intercultural, and
as well as historical. Right, many people throughout throughout the
world we use the word, the actual word vibe or
some variation thereof that translates into their language.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's kind of, yeah, very cool, And I'm not surprised,
right that that that somehow doesn't surprise me. I think that,
you know, if I think about again, you know, as
someone who who seems to stomp through life versus somebody
who thinks, to you know, seems to bounce like tigger,
you know that there have been people like that historically.
(16:49):
There are people like that globally in all the cultures.
And and obviously we are going to talk about it
in one form or another. And and vibe is one
of the words that we can use to describe you know,
how we how we feel energy from from other people. Right, So, yeah, beautiful,
Thank you so much. So people who are listening and
(17:11):
they're like, this is this is really cool, this is
really interesting, and I want to figure out how I can,
you know, figure out my vibe or figure out how
to exude my vibe in life on stage in my book,
can you just give us like three ideas on what
and what we can do and how we can kind
(17:33):
of take those first steps to become, as you say,
aware enough to be to be able to make choices
around this consciously.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, sure, so I would say the first thing is
to become more consciously aware of the vibe you're giving
off on a regular basis. Right, So if you're not
aware of it, then you have no control over it.
So try to consciously tune yourself to your own vibe
on a daily base. Then from there though, also try
(18:02):
to take notice of how people are responding to your
vibe and that could be on a daily base, like
your core personality, but also relative to each situation and
each circumstance you find yourself in. And then from there though,
also learn to practice an experiment and I say that
because no one person is off the same vibe all
the time, and not everyone's going to respond to your
(18:23):
vibe in the same kind of way, right, So you
want to experiment with different kinds of vibes in different
situations with different people, but then also practice and see
what works, what doesn't work, and in many ways, try
to make it into a habit. So it's similar to
meditation and let's say mindfulness. You have to practice those
things on a regular basis to reap the benefits. Same
(18:44):
thing with a vibe. Although we all give off a
vibe all the time, you have to make it a habit.
You have to practice it, and you have to elevate
to a certain kind of a conscious way of life.
And from there you can get more complex. But I
think as a basic starting point those three things you
can start there.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, that makes sense, And it's interesting because yes, we
all have a vibe, but we don't always have the
vibe we want, right, And so what you're saying is,
here's how you can become aware of it, aware of
how your vibe affects other people, and then be your
own scientist with your own vibe experiment until you are
(19:22):
living consciously and exuding the vibe that makes the most
sense for who you want to be and how you
want to present yourself. So that makes perfect sense. Jason,
thank you so much for joining us today. I really
appreciated your time. I've enjoyed this conversation. If people want
to follow your work, where can they find you?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
They you just go to the website you already mentioned,
which is twenty minute vive dot com again twenty minute
five dot com and from there you can find my
Instagram page, facebook page, as well as YouTube page. Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh you have a YouTube too, Yes, yes, excellent. You
are a very busy man. You're teaching, you're writing, You've
got a YouTube, you are a you're a busy guy.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
You are.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Jason again, thank you so much for joining us today.
Thank you, yes, and thank you for joining us today
on authoration. I hope this conversation has provided you with
some insights into what vibe is and how you can
shift your own vibe your in real life and also
on the page. And remember to visit authoration dot online
(20:24):
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Welcome to Douthonation. Today, we're going to dive into talking
about vibe and how vibe can help you connect with
your readers. I'm Melody and your host, and we're here
to share with you useful advice and strategies to help
you succeed as an author. And for part of that,
you can go into authonation dot online to access a
treasure trove of resources just for you. So whether you're
(00:35):
sitting in your morning coffee or out for a long
walk listening in as you walk, let me introduce our guests.
Jason del Gandio has a PhD in Communications studies and
has been studying vibes for thirty years. He's a published
author and award winning teacher and an engaged intellectual. For
(00:58):
his doctoral work, he developed his own philosophy of the vibe,
referred to as bodily emanation. He has published essays on
the topic in both scholarly and popular presses. His latest
project is called twenty Minute Vibe, which is an educational
space for learning about the vibe, offering videos, essays, and
self paced video lectures for people who are intellectually curious.
(01:22):
He also currently is working on an academic book about
vibes tentatively entitled, and you should always have a good
working title, right, Vibe talk, How and why people talk
about vibes. Let's welcome Jason Delgandio to the show. Hi,
welcome to Douthination.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Hi Melodie, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I am fantastic, So I need to just jump right
in and start by asking what do you mean? Because
you know we're both in communication here, right, so we
both know we have to agree on the definition. What
do you mean when you say vibe?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Sure? Well, first, backup, first, split second here, and I
want you to invite your listeners to take note over
the next week or so how often they either use
the word vibe or they hear someone else use the
word vibe. And that could be in face to face conversation,
over text messages, in a song, on television, in a movie, etc.
And I almost guarantee you'll be surprised how often you
(02:17):
hear the word vibe or some variation of so vibe,
vibes and the plural vibrations, energies, frequencies, mood, atmosphere, so
on and so on and so on. Now, in terms
of the most basic definition I can think of, we
can think of vibes as the exchange of energy between
you and other people. So again, the exchange of energy
between you and other people. Now the first question, though,
becomes what is the nature of this energy? So for instance,
(02:40):
is this energy a physical phenomenon or a metaphysical phenomenon?
Is it material or immaterial, scientific or spiritual? Perhaps all
these things and then some. And then to drive home
the point though, I want to provide a few examples
for your listeners rights. So for instance, think of that
going on a first date. And usually for a first date,
(03:01):
we evaluate that date in terms of the connection we
have between ourselves and other people. But that connection is
often translated into the word or terminology of vibes. So
for instance, it was a good vibe, a bad vibe,
a romantic vibe, a sexual vibe, a timic vibe, a
weird vibe, and so on. Or think about going to
a music concert and you're there with thousands of people.
You're all there for the same reason, listen to the
(03:23):
same music, and all of a sudden, your bodies fall
into rhythm and fall into sync with each other. And
that's an embodied experience that we often call a vibe.
Like at the concert on the dance floor. Some kind
of example would be at a sporting event. You're there
with twenty thirty forty fifty thousand other people, You're all
cheating for your team. Your team wins at the end,
and you feel the electricity in the stadium right or
on the flip side, though, we talk about bad vibes
(03:44):
and negative vibes. So for instance, let's say it's a
really intense work meeting and everyone there is in a
bad mood, the boss on everyone's case, and it's literally
a bad vibe in that room, and you can feel
that in your body. They Conversely, think about your friends
or your family members. Sometimes a good vibe or a
bad vibe. For example, maybe you get to argue with
your best friend and for a few hours, a few days,
(04:05):
or even a few weeks, the vibe between you and
the other person is off. Right. So these are all
basic examples of when we experience a vibe and how
we might define and explain a vibe.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, beautiful, thank you. I really like that. So I
want to talk a little bit before we talk about
writing a vibe. I want to talk a little bit
of just about you know, how you know, bringing a
vibe to our lives and in our every day. You
talked about being at worker with family. You know, I
want to have a positive vibe. I want to exude
(04:36):
a vibe that helps me connect with others. How can
I determine my own vibe? How can I exude the
vibe that I want to exude?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Sure? Oh, well, the first step really is becoming more
aware of the vibe, like vibes in general, and your
daily experience. The way I walk people through this is
at first, become more aware of your body and more
aware of your surroundings. Right, so, how do I feel internally?
How do I feel externally? Where am I at in
my immediate surroundings? Who am I with? How might my
surroundings be affecting me? Either positively or negatively? And then
(05:11):
I say that because you want to be more aware
of your space in place, because if you're just in
your head all the time, then you're kind of cutting
yourself off to the energies that we're now be talking about.
Right then, there, though, try to soften your ego and
soften your perception. In other words, think less with your
conscious mind and think more with your overall bodily awareness,
(05:31):
bodily intelligence, and bodily knowing. Right. Then from there, you
might try to imagine that your body is emanating or
radiating a certain kind of energy or a certain kind of vibe, right,
to try to imagine that and envision that your daily life.
And then from there though, try to lean into this
exchange of energy. Right. And I say that because although
everyone gets off a vibe and you all feel vibes,
(05:51):
it takes practice and you have to make kind of
a habit on a daily basis, and that will help
you out in your daily life with vibes.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, that's really cool. Well, you know, I've met people
who I feel like they just kind of walk around
angrily all the time. Right, they have this kind of
angry vibe, And then you meet somebody else and they
have this just really soft, gentle vibe. And then you
meet someone else who you know, who's bouncing through life, right,
kind of like the tigger vibe. Right, let's kind of
(06:24):
can we transition that to writing? Now? How might we
exude a vibe in our writing?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Sure? Well, the first thing I think of is narrative voice.
So what voice do I hear in my head when
I'm reading your work, what is the personality of this
author and this writer? Right? Then we can also think
about different writing choices, so, for instance, the choice of
vocabulary and language. Right, we might think of each word
(06:54):
as evoking a certain kind of feeling on the page.
We can also think about the length of a sentence
or the length of a paragraph the link of the
length of a chapter. Right, So if a sentence is
really long or a chapter is really long, it takes
more intellectual work to get through that as opposed to
short writing, which is a little bit easier. Right, Can
I'll talk about scene and setting like all these things matter? Right, So,
(07:16):
in many ways you might think about in terms of
thinking about in terms of what kind of world are
you evoking on the page? And then has that world
make people feel? Right? The other way of putting this
is that you can think of every writing choice as
a form of affect of communication, a thefta with an
a so a theft of communication. Right. And so again,
everything that you write, everything that you type, everything that
(07:36):
you produce is evoking some kind of affective experience for
the reader. And so you can be aware of that
as the author and try to make choices that evoke
and match the kind of vobs you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, yeah, And I've been thinking about this. I'd like
to add something and maybe your feedback on it. I've
been thinking about you know, a lot of people they
go to the beach in the summer and they want
to beach read because a B tread has a vibe.
It's a genre that has certain tropes that make us
feel a certain way. And then Halloween comes along and
we don't want to read beatreats. We want to read
(08:11):
you know, Stephen King and thrillers and you know, things
like that, and so you know, I'm thinking about vibe.
Would you agree that different genres hold their own vibe
through everything you've spoken about plus the tropes that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We use, Yeah, one hundred percent. I don't see. I
don't see why that wouldn't be the case, right, So
every genre, So again i'll just streak people which said,
I do agree that every genre has its own vibe,
and the vibe of that genre is partly defining that genre,
Like how does that genre make me feel internally externally?
(08:46):
When I talk about a certain genre with my friends,
what kind of discourse is evoked in our conversations, right,
all those kinds of things, And then I think about
other kinds of genres. So, for instance, a memoir is
by it's very nature, very personal, right, Like you're disclosing
part of yourself to the world, which is much more intimate. Right,
That's kind of the vibe of that genre. But then
(09:08):
I think on the other end of the spectrum, something
like a medical textbook, which tends to be very dry,
very fact based, could be very impersonal as well. Right now,
Having said that, though, I don't think something like a
medical book has to be so dry and impersonal, right
the author that you have the freedom to write that book. However,
you want to draw a loose analogy here. If I
(09:31):
think about going to an in person doctor visit, one
of the ways that I evaluate that visit that doctor
is by the bedside manner of that doctor. Is the
person supportive, is the person inviting, is the person encouraging,
et cetera? Right, And so why can't that same type
of experience be evoked on the page even in a
medical book. So if you're running that dry right, like,
(09:55):
think about these kinds of choices and place your clients
and patients at the center.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I one hundred percent agree with you. That is, you know,
it's it's it's interesting you say that, because that's something
I work with authors on. You know, they come with
these really dry topics, and the you know, and and
and the information is really interesting if you present it
in the right way, if you use stories, views, characters,
(10:22):
if you you know, and so part of what I
do is helping people take what they feel is for
them interesting but boring for the rest of the world,
and help them create something exciting with that. All right,
let's let's turn our attention a little bit for a
moment to you know, the vibe of an author off
the page. And so the example that comes to mind is,
(10:46):
you know, I often say to authors, Look, if you're
an author, you're in business, right you you have a product, right,
you have You're you're selling something. You know, you teach,
you teach, and you have you know, college aged kids
coming in in some ways, you know, they they talk
about you. They you know, we're always we're always selling something, right,
(11:07):
It's true. We're selling our kids broccoli at dinner, whatever
it is. We're always selling something or kind of persuade someone.
And yet when authors think about going out and talking
about their book, they start feeling like a used car salesman, right,
They feel like the vibe is iky, and I think
that just how they have, Like, how can you exude
(11:31):
a different vibe on how you feel inside? Is so
icky about what you're doing? Can you just comment on that?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Maybe walking through Steah, I could say a lot about this.
This is more of my forte than anything else. But
so at this point in my life, I've been to
and witnessed plenty of poetry readings, book readings, book promotions,
so on and so on and so on, and a
lot of authors and writers don't necessarily like being out
(12:00):
in public with people. They prefer to be home by
themselves and their office writing, et cetera. Which I totally understand.
I totally get it. I'm intellectual, I'm by myself all
the time as well. Right, But if you're going to
agree to do these book events, then use it as
an opportunity to present yourself to the world and not
just your book, right, but you as a person. Right.
So if I go to the bookstore and I buy
(12:21):
your book, I can read your book anytime I want.
This might be the only chance I ever get to
meet you in person or see you in person, so
use this as an opportunity. One way to think about
this is your like a performance on stage, and in
some case you might actually be on a stage, right.
But any good performer, any good public speaker, any good
musician or a comedian is aware of the performative moment
(12:42):
and knows how to live up to that moment. And
part of living up to that moment is the vibe itself. Right.
Try to focus on what vibe you want to emanate
out into the audience, and how will your vibe make
them feel? How will it entice them to like you,
to appreciate you and want to buy your book? Right?
And with that, you want to think about being sincere,
(13:06):
authentic and be yourself right. And one of the ways
to do that, though, is to be in the moment
and be present in the moments. Now. When I say that,
I don't mean just do it off the cuff, right,
You want to rehearse in practice, et cetera. Right, when
you get to that moment, though, try to be yourself
and be genuine, and most human beings respond favorably to
that kind of experience in that kind of vibe.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, I find that when I'm out and I see authors,
especially the newer authors, their you know, their first book,
they're kind of first tour, their first reading, they tend
to have the sense of apology around them interesting, right
that you know, it's like, well, i'm you know, I'm sorry,
I'm here to buy my book. I'm not sure I
(13:50):
deserve this space or the stage. And that's that's also
the vibe.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, And in some ways that's endearing because they are
being sincere that right, So I want to applaud that
and also applaud the fact that they're working outside of
their comfort zone. Right. At the same time, though, you
can work through that though and still be sincere while
also being self confident. Right, we by exuding a certain
kind of charisma. And actually that's a good word to
(14:16):
use here. So I think charisma and vibe are very
much related. Right. So, as an author doing book events
and promotional events, how can you develop your charisma right
in such a way that's enticing to other people? Right?
Use your charisma and I don't mean mug people for
their attention, because that's a different kind of thing, right,
that usually comes off fake and phony, right, But use
(14:38):
it as a way to again invite them into your
world and rate them with your presidence in a very genuine,
in sincere manner.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, brilliant, Thank you. So I love the idea of
Vibe and you can learn more about it and at
twenty minute vibe dot com. As as we said earlier, Jason,
you have videos there, you have self guided material, lots
of cool things. I think that sounds like a really
great place to go check out vibe. Thank you for
(15:08):
thank you for building that and if people want to
check it out, you can find it at twenty minute
vibe dot com. Okay, you are writing a book. Are
you writing a book for academics or are you writing
like an accessible book for people who do not have
a PhD in your area?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Somewhere in between. So, in many ways, it is a
book of scholarship, right. So, I'm working through other scholars
that have written about the Vibe. I'm working through certain
kinds of high end theories and philossies, but I'm trying
to make it accessible to someone who doesn't have a PhD. Right.
I don't believe that all knowledge and intelligence has to
(15:46):
be so esoteric an arcane that nobody can understand it,
especially writing our vibs, right, And so in many ways,
I'm really chronically chronicling how people talk about vibes, and
not just in the year twenty twenty five and in America,
but really throughout human history across different cultures, whether it's
North America, South America, Europe, Africa, Asia, so on, and
(16:07):
so on and so on. One of the things I've
discovered in this process of writing this book is that
the interest in human energy systems is global, intercultural, and
as well as historical. Right, many people throughout throughout the
world we use the word, the actual word vibe or
some variation thereof that translates into their language.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's kind of, yeah, very cool, And I'm not surprised,
right that that that somehow doesn't surprise me. I think that,
you know, if I think about again, you know, as
someone who who seems to stomp through life versus somebody
who thinks, to you know, seems to bounce like tigger,
you know that there have been people like that historically.
(16:49):
There are people like that globally in all the cultures.
And and obviously we are going to talk about it
in one form or another. And and vibe is one
of the words that we can use to describe you know,
how we how we feel energy from from other people. Right, So, yeah, beautiful,
Thank you so much. So people who are listening and
(17:11):
they're like, this is this is really cool, this is
really interesting, and I want to figure out how I can,
you know, figure out my vibe or figure out how
to exude my vibe in life on stage in my book,
can you just give us like three ideas on what
and what we can do and how we can kind
(17:33):
of take those first steps to become, as you say,
aware enough to be to be able to make choices
around this consciously.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, sure, so I would say the first thing is
to become more consciously aware of the vibe you're giving
off on a regular basis. Right, So if you're not
aware of it, then you have no control over it.
So try to consciously tune yourself to your own vibe
on a daily base. Then from there though, also try
(18:02):
to take notice of how people are responding to your
vibe and that could be on a daily base, like
your core personality, but also relative to each situation and
each circumstance you find yourself in. And then from there though,
also learn to practice an experiment and I say that
because no one person is off the same vibe all
the time, and not everyone's going to respond to your
(18:23):
vibe in the same kind of way, right, So you
want to experiment with different kinds of vibes in different
situations with different people, but then also practice and see
what works, what doesn't work, and in many ways, try
to make it into a habit. So it's similar to
meditation and let's say mindfulness. You have to practice those
things on a regular basis to reap the benefits. Same
(18:44):
thing with a vibe. Although we all give off a
vibe all the time, you have to make it a habit.
You have to practice it, and you have to elevate
to a certain kind of a conscious way of life.
And from there you can get more complex. But I
think as a basic starting point those three things you
can start there.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, that makes sense, And it's interesting because yes, we
all have a vibe, but we don't always have the
vibe we want, right, And so what you're saying is,
here's how you can become aware of it, aware of
how your vibe affects other people, and then be your
own scientist with your own vibe experiment until you are
(19:22):
living consciously and exuding the vibe that makes the most
sense for who you want to be and how you
want to present yourself. So that makes perfect sense. Jason,
thank you so much for joining us today. I really
appreciated your time. I've enjoyed this conversation. If people want
to follow your work, where can they find you?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
They you just go to the website you already mentioned,
which is twenty minute vive dot com again twenty minute
five dot com and from there you can find my
Instagram page, facebook page, as well as YouTube page. Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh you have a YouTube too, Yes, yes, excellent. You
are a very busy man. You're teaching, you're writing, You've
got a YouTube, you are a you're a busy guy.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
You are.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Jason again, thank you so much for joining us today.
Thank you, yes, and thank you for joining us today
on authoration. I hope this conversation has provided you with
some insights into what vibe is and how you can
shift your own vibe your in real life and also
on the page. And remember to visit authoration dot online
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