Awful Service Number One Hundred and Fifty- Rudy Pavich

Shingles, Gas, Masks, and Ayds, This episode has it all. We have the Hilarious Rudy Pavich on our One Hundred and Fiftieth Episode!    Awful Service is a customer service based comedy podcast. Hosted by Minnesota based comics and Co-hosts Matt Dooyema and Joe Cocozzello . Featuring Rebecca Wilson. "Awful Theme Song" by Jeff Kantos and "Karen Theme Remix","Show Us Your Resume", "Gee Why Did It Fail", "Awful Conversation Intro", and "Awful Outro"  by Mr Rogers and The Make Believe Friends   Message us your stories ; [e-mail]. Follow us on Twitter @podservice. Facebook @AwfulServicepod. Instagram @awfulservicepod.   Awful Service is a Tape Deck Media Podcast

Episode Transcript

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Tape Deck Media. Welcome back.It's another episode of the Awful Service podcast.

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This is the podcast that went outfor a pack of cigarettes and never
came back, did it. Yeah, we're they We celebrate. We celebrate
the linquid Father's Day here. Okay, that's the it's the Monday after Father's
Day. We offer them, uhyou know, we offer them the pity
meal. It's uh five boneless wingsand uh some cards from their children.

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Do the fathers that walked down ontheir kids celebrate Father's Day? I don't
think they celebrate with Father's Day.We're making a new holiday, Joe.
It's has to be struck day afterward. It's the Monday afterward. You can't
do it on actual Father's Day,and it's a Monday. They're not working
anyway, what are they As aguy who has multiple dads, I can

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tell you, Joe, that theguys who have walked out on their children
do not celebrate Father's Day. Theyjust tell the strippers. But the Monday,
yeah, yeah, yeah, no. They get all the free perks,
you know, like the free Cariboucoffee and the ten percent off over
at the Baskin Robbins. But theyjust don't get the card from the child
that they created, you know.So, yeah, my old man celebrated

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a milestone victory when I was likefifteen when the State of Minnesota released the
names of the biggest deadbeat dads inthe state. Well, he made he
made the list. Oh. Notonly was he on the list, Joe,
he was Numero uno. Whoa wow? Not even top ten, not
even top ten, no number one. Did they say that it comes with

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a plaque and then like like likea casinnati ice and then when they get
there, they get the back childsupport. Uh, like they get sir,
Do you say that there's a boatscheme for deadbeat dads? Yeah,
come on down, everybody. Yeah, it's fifty pontoons today. And then

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you show up and they're like,oh, by the way, yeah,
I hate to tell you, buddy, but there's no boat and you owe
us for it was mine. It'slike instead of it's like the trap that
catches et, but instead of Reese'sPecs, it's just Winston cigarettes and free
passes to the Teddy Bar lunch.Yeah, it's sent me your host Matt

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with the self proclaimed fresh Prince ofPoughkeepsie. Joe cocozello and that's with the
number one to link with father inMinnesota. Yeah, the hilarious Rudy Povich.
Everybody go ahead, up for Rudy. Thanks for it's already we've already
set a tone. This is thisis gonna be a wild one. We
got fun. So wait, yousaid that was fifteen years ago when he

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set that record. Oh you knowwhat, I'm now, I'm dating myself.
Sometimes I forget that I'm forty three. I do. I do a
joke on stage about how I looklike a like a mighty duck, but
like just nowadays the mighty ducks,like how we just we just grew up,
but I'd never changed our clothes.I forget about it. Man.
Yeah, this was actually so thismust have been like nineteen eighty nine,
so eighty nine, ninety so yeah, probably like thirty some years ago now,

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like yeah, so yeah, you'reright. It was just picturing you,
uh, trying to do the flyingV and pulling something. Yeah yeah,
oh oh yeah. I was ina Mickey's diner and they're like,
don't you recognize me? Yeah?Now, the flying V is just the
cardboard splint they use on my kneeto try to get me to the emergency

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room. They tape it up withsome duct tape, and off we go
in the back of a Honda CRV. The reason I brought up it was
a little bit ago that your dadwon this, Like, is it like
g you World Sexiest Man? Likeis it every years he's taken this or
has someone or surped him as amore dead beater? I mean, you

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know, I imagine the problem isafter that list came out, the state
of Minnesota got so shamed into callingthem dead beat dads, so they got
rid of the list, and thenthey they legally changed the name to this.
I did all this research because Idid a documentary about my dad,
and after this came out, theywent from calling them dead beat dads and

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like all the legal documents would saydead beat dads. And then when all
this went down and then the stateof Minnesota got shamed, they changed it
to absentee fathers. Oh and becauseof that, it never like, even
though the list came out, thedad's never like none of the dads on
the list paid off any of theback child support, none of it never

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made a time and well not allheroes were capes. You're right, as
I was, As I was talkingto somebody about this, they were like,
well, what a dumb idea,you know, to just change it
from dead beat dads to absentee fathers. What do they expect was going to
happen? And I'm like, yeah, you want to know why they didn't
pay because their deadbeat dad? Exactlythe name was there. Man, I
know, George Carlin does that bitabout changing PTS or changing shell shock to

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PTSD and how if you would havejust kept calling a shell shock, maybe
that would have gotten some you know, it would have gotten a little more
traction. And I'm like, it'sthe same with dead beat dads. Like
what, it's a great name.It rolls off the tongue. It exactly
describes the people that you are talkingabout. Absentee father. We don't need
that, and it should bring theword itself, should bring enough shame to

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pay. You would think, Yeah, that like really leaning in you're a
dead beat dad. Yeah, no, like average absentee father. That doesn't
sound bad. Now, absentee father, it just sounds like you work a
lot to make money for your family. Yeah, It's like maybe dad works
that night and can't take you tothe dentist, so you have to you
have to skip school that day atnine thirty because you have to see the

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father. I don't know. It'sit's always in the wording of things,
and shame goes a long, long, long way, and I don't think
enough people use it to their advantageanymore. I think we just Yes,
it's pretty much the Catholic Church anduh, Midwest mothers are the last bastions
of shame. That's it. Yeah, I think we should put them on
milk cartons. Have you seen this, man, Joe, Joe, We're

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gonna have to update it for twentytwenty four. It's gonna have to be
an almond milk curtains though, okay, like oat milk. Yeah, because
I haven't seen him for twenty sevenyears. Damn it, man, You
know it doesn't me realize that evenmissing kids have more followers on social media
than I do. God, damnit, Rudy. Do you want me
to help you, uh with yoursocial media followers? I could call an

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Amber alert out oh please do?Oh yeah, I could get missing in
mid forties, slightly bearded. Youdidn't go you didn't go kayaking in Lake
Tahoe. So you're fine. No, I'm just I'm just in a basement
somewhere not being able to figure outthe algorithm. So absolutely, Plus I

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got backup. Children, we gotmore. There's more of us, There's
more. It's fine, you're justtrying to make a cycle. We don't
just always talk about absentee fathers,Amber alerts or plate Tahoe. No,
this is the Awful Service Podcast,Ordy. This is the podcast where we
talk about different customer service jobs andthe stories there within. The very first
segment on the podcast is one thatwe lovingly refer to as the resume.

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Show what your renome? Why shouldwe hire? Have you ever had a
job? Right? You up andtell us all about yourself and your place
of bad, talk about jobs,filty, shady politics, Show what your
resume and phil and father doesn't count. No, this is the Rudy.

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This is the time where you getto talk about some of the former jobs.
You don't have to talk about allof them, you know, just
some of the more interesting things.Stories, customer interactions, shitty bosses,
whatever you want to talk about.Man. So I think for me,
my I always hate the word journey, but it is it's an apropos of
this. It is a you know, for me, it started out at

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a bingo hall. That was likemy first actual well my family owned a
roofing company and that was like myfirst legit job was hauling shingles up roofs.
So I did I think the firsttime I started working for him,
I was like thirteen. So yeah, every summer, you know, you
just show up every you know,you get a ride. My mom would
drop me off at the shop andthen you're there seven am and you're up

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there. But you know, likeI was making seven bucks an hour cash
and seven dollars an hour cash innineteen ninety four. You're doing that,
I mean at the end of theat the end of the weekend, man,
I literally had by the end ofthe weekend. I they would give
me like four hundred dollars cash.That's actually they were probably paying you more
than they paid the dudes they pickedup at home depot. Oh yeah,

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nowadays absolutely, yeah, it was. It was good timing, man,
it was. Uh but then afterthat, uh my grandmother was it called
deadbeat dad roofers was actually yeah,we we do the hammering, Yeah we

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yes, we beat your roof on. So uh. So I started out
with that and then it went touh started calling bingo with my grandmother at
our local VFW, and that waslike the first time I really got onto
a mic. And it was cool. Like the old people that were great.
They'd let you kind of improvise andthey weren't like super strict about stuff.
But it was like a packed hall. Man, it was like two

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hundred people a night sometimes, sothey would just let you kind of you
know, as long as you callthe numbers correctly. If there was something
that happened in the room, theywould let you. You know, if
somebody drop something, you can makea comment about it or whatever they want.
Yeah. Yeah, they weren't superbig sticklers about it. Yeah,
it wouldn't be funny to like besixteen, So where are you from?
You know, what's your name?What do you do? You're doing crowd

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work as a fourteen year old,I didn't know any better. I was
doing don't throw your back out,damn in that one athol. Yeah,
they were, but they were cool, man, Like the old people were
cool and they were I don't know, it was just it was a good
vibe. Plus, like I'm alittle bit of an older, older soul

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and I don't know I did.We just jelled and it was great.
And the guys who had been callingBengo for like thirty years, these dudes
were like the ones who really helpedme with like microphone technique and pacing and
how to get rid of nerves andwas all these things about it. But
there's no outlets. I'm from asmall town, so it's not like I
always wanted to be a comedian,but there was no outlets for it.
So you just basically that's a goodkind of grooming. Yeah, absolutely,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, especiallywhere I come from. Man, there
is dude, It's it's brutal likeit is you ever seen Winter's Bone with
uh Jennifer Lawrence. No, we'regonna watch it now. Amazing, amazing
movie. Uh you know, greatname for a porno but not Are you
sure that doesn't sound like something thatwas in the regular theaters there where the

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floors are a little extra sticky.Yeah. For some reason, Paul Rubens
is in the back. Everybody,everybody in the theater is wearing a trench
coat. What's going on? Yeah, I don't know why the trench coat
business didn't really lean into that inthe eighties, but like, hey,
these are so great to jerk offin. We actually have a pocket,

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special pocket that goes right it goesright through you could you don't even you
put your arm in your pocket.You just London fog is opening up jacket
stores right next to the Oh yeah, that's a cottage industry of sewing in
lube liners on the inside of thetrench coat. Ah. Man, if
we could only we only had atime machine, we could go back and

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make millions now. But there wasno outlets for for comedy. So I
was just kind of stuck, man. And then radio kind of became a
thing where it was, you know, it was accessible. I could do
it. I didn't have to livein a big town. I got an
internship at a small time radio stationin southern Minnesota, and then from there,
Man, it was twenty five yearsof radio, and I mean I

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had I started in Mancato, Minnesota, and then went to Lacrosse, Wisconsin,
then New Hampshire, Missouri. Iwas in Phoenix for like four days.
I hated every minute of it.I called my old Boston, Wisconsin.
It was like, dude, Igot to move back. I can't
Phoenix when Lacrosse is looking like yeah, right, But now that that was

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what was so bad about Phoenix infour days, well you were like pomp
in the corner in July. That'sexactly what happened. One thousand percent,
yes, a thousand percent. Wewent there. I think it was like
the third week of July. Itwas one hundred and you know, thirty
seven degrees at seven am. Peoplecooking eggs on the sidewalk. The pool
at like eight thirty am was inthe nineties. The water was ridiculous.

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I'm not living here. And thenalso what happened was the place that we
were getting set up to live in, we stut. We went out and
had some beers, and then onthe way back we stopped at a convenience
store and just got like some youknow, chips or whatever and some tobacco,
and then headed back to the apartmentand drink some beers. And then
woke up the next morning and sawthe news at like ten minutes after we
have left that convenience store, thewoman, the clerk who had helped us,

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was gune down in a robbery.Jesus man, I think that's a
sudden Get the hell out of it. And it was hot. It was
you're speaty, and but that's probablywhy they got done down there ice creaming.
You don't make good decisions when you'reyou don't make calm decisions when you're
you're too hot. No, you'reright, absolutely, that would not have

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been a if that was in Wisconsin, they probably wouldn't. That lady would
still be alive. Yeah, no, they would have. They would have
split a brick of cheese and hada nice comment and they would have had
kind of stroll up bunch of fileyWisconsin. They would have had some brandy
old fashions and then played Yeah.No, but yeah, but that was
it. Man. I moved backto Wisconsin and then got a job at
radio station in Minneapolis in two thousandand six, and then a year and

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a half later, my daughter wasconceived, and then the rest is history.
Man, I've been here ever since. And your time in radio were
you like on like music stations talk? What were you doing? Yeah?
Yeah, so I was. Iwas the afternoon drive guy at ninety three
X in Minneapolis, so rock radiofor a long time and that was basically
that was my entire I was awhat was your radio? Uh? Radio

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name. It was just Rudy,Rudy Pavic. That was all I'm trying
to remember because I'm like seventeen eighteen. I'm like, all right, do
what I'm trying to remember, likeyou know, eighteen year old Joe listening.
Then ninety three Rudy, just doit. Do it intro and it's
going to be Whiskey in the Jarby Metallica. Oh man, See that
was always that was always so muchfun running up those ramps. It's been

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so long now let's see it's it'sMinnesota's ninety three X. I make sure
that you guys are out in coonrapids tonight if you're gonna be up kind
of one sixty nine, we dothat a bumper stop stop, bumper cigar
stop, free gas for an entireyear from ninety three X is a metallic
A Whiskey in the Jar. Idon't know, I can't remember the names
or anything, but on the eggson ninety three X. Yeah, whatever
it was, I'm sure it wassomething dumb like that. Make sure you

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stop out. Hey, we're gonnabe giving away cancusies and colored pencils.
Dumb. What's the dumbest thing yougave away in your time, light bulbs
and toothpaste. Really yeah, anddude, that was a hot commodity.
That was a big commodity for theradio state. It was a small town
radio station. Yeah it was.When was this was two thous maybe like

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yeah, maybe like two thousand,two thousand and one. And yeah,
also we gave away and this issuch a poor taste now that oh my
god, it's awful to think about. But after nine to eleven, because
there was like that gas shortage,we gave out gas cards as like an

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anti f you to terrorism. AndI'm like, how I mean use that?
It was the it was so ridiculous, Like the imaging for it.
They had like this sort of pompand circumstance kind of American music in the
back, you know, like itwas almost like a you know, like
a what do they call it thepresidential whatever that music is. I can't

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remember the name of it, butit sounded like that. And it was
like we won't, yeah, wewon't let the terrorists win. Oh,
get your quick trip gas card rightnow at ninety five seven the rock dot
com. What are we doing here, you guys? I mean, heinz
At the time, people were like, and especially small town Midwest, we
were like yeah, yeah, ohyeah, fucking Iraqi mother, you know

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what I mean. But it waswild and but that was the times,
man, you could get away withall that stuff, you know, back
when radio stations had hot chick ofthe day. Yes, can you imagine
now? No, I'd like,I'm in Saint Cloud. We still have
that at our rock station. Whatare you talking about? Like, yeah,
I imagine. Yeah, you wantto be the you want to be
the poster girl for the Yet seven. Right, you go to the website

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and you're like, ah bar butGan Jesus Christ, Well, it's weird
when you know every hot tick ofthe Yeah, yeah, she works at
the gas station. Yeah, butthen but yeah, the kids, she
doesn't look terrible. I mean no, no, man, you know every
now. And I don't tell thisstory very often because I know it's embarrassing

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for but I was in not toofar into Saint Cloud. I was in
Malacca, Minnesota, and I wentto a called Fat Jacks or Fat Fat
Max Max. No, it's It'sJack's Cabaret, Fat Jacks Cabaret, and
it's it's it's I know exactly whereit is that's uh, it's outside.
It's in the town called Bach,Minnesota, outside of Black I know this
because I when I do runs upto Duluth, I have to pass it.

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When I go through Saint Cloud.Oh gotcha. I'm a classy bitch.
I go to Sugar Daddy's. Now. We stopped in there one time.
And when we stopped in, sorry, my buddy's sister was on stage.
Yeah. Yeah, and she sawme and I saw her and I
was like, oh my god.And then she grabbed she grabbed her top

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and then put it like in frontof her and then got off the stage
and she was like, you cannottell anybody, and I'm like, I
promise I won't. And then Iwas like, I'll be right back.
And then I went to the bathroomand called everybody I knew. Yeah.
So those were those were good times, man, But it's weird as she
kept her bottoms off, that wasthe part that was a little week.

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Yeah, she was just porky piganit the whole time. I'm like,
I don't even allow that here,but we're right, we need the po
yeah yeah, no, but thepooing sounds like it involves shading on somebody.
That's you're right, you're right,you're right, or that's why Donald
ducking sounds a little yeah, no, no no. The second that you

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do it, then you gotta turn. Yeah, but the windy the poohing
is when you do it, youturn and look at the girl and go,
oh, bother you get stuck inher honey hole? Yeah yeah,
yeah, it was fun man,it was it was. It was like
radio was such a Radio was sucha weird. I love when I break
Matt, that's my fun. Ohjust now I'm just imagining, like you

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know, it's pooh with his headbut yeah, yeah, you gotta pay
extra for that. In the champagneroom though, takers just standing behind him,
like take his head out of thehoney hole. What are you doing
where he's trying to climb out ofthe mechanical rhino? Oh yeah yeah yeah,
oh god god, what what doyou guys think? Which was better?

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One or two? Oh? One'sclassic? Yeah, one's classic is
just I still like to I thinkthe jokes are are bigger into but I
think all and all. I thinkit's like consistence. Yea, he seems
like he's bigger in two like that, whereas the first one is just I
mean, they're both ridiculous, ofcourse, and Marino. Yeah, also

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in what one to actually age technicallyin this day and age age is better?
Yes, there is a lot likeyeah, yeah, uh yeah.
Man ah. Those are the daysI try to go back and have moments
with my daughter where I try towatch old movies with her and I'm like,

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you can totally love this, andthen we get halfway through it and
I'm like, this movie's a pieceof ship. This sucks, Like why
did? We tried to watch TheMighty Ducks together? And I just realized
what a terrible movie this is.It's awful, and the Minnesotan in me
wants to love it, but Ijust we got ten minutes in and I
said, are you bored? Shegoes, I can't watch this. I
was like, yeah, you're right, this is this is awful too.

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How old is your daughter? Shejust turned sixteen? Okay, uh four
more years, you guys, goback, sit down. She's a freshman
in college. She comes home forThanksgiving. You bust out a big fat
duber. You share a dooby withyour daughter daughter, Daddy Dooby day.

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That's actually bothers my daughter, DaddyDoobey Day. I'm gonna make that a
national fucking holiday. Yeah, TamalaHarris, Yeah, it kind of that
feels like remember when a big thingwhen they're like, hey, guys,
it's Steak and blow Chop Day today. Remember the guy They were trying to
get that off the ground, butit never really took. I feel like,
Daddy daughter, Dooby Day is gonnabe one of those things that we

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talk about where we're like, thisis this is the thing? Okay,
then give me the date. It'sJune twenty seventh. Man, every year,
you guys don't sell a brain likethey're gonna get like super you know,
and dignant about it. I watchingthe Mighty Ducks then you're like,
ah, it was pretty good,but it was pretty slow good high.
You gotta watch the second one,come on, knuckle Puck, the one

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where they go to the Olympics toface Iceland. Iceland is somehow a powerhouse
in hockey, which is that's neverbeen the case. Yeah, cch but
you gotta go against Russia. That'sforgot about Iceland. And that's also also
Keenan Thompson's in it for some reason, and he does that stupid thing where
he puts the puck on the sideand somehow magically it always the knuckle puck,

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which does not work. Does notwork, No, it does not.
If you're you're young child, dothis podcast one why every one spent
trying to fucking get that hockey sticks? Yeah. Yeah. There was a
kid in town for a comedy festlast week. He was a big Mighty

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Ducks fan, and he went toall the spots that are in the movie
and like put him on his socialmedia and then he went to the like
where they have the moment on thewith the limo and the paw and she's
like, don't drive that limo onthe pond. And he's like, I
know when the ice is save.I just know that whole scene. And
he's like, there's no pod.It was just I was like, yeah,
it's just a park. Like theyjust put water down in it,
froze and they just rolled it.Do you really think that they were gonna

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put like Emelia Westevaz and get ouractors in a limo on a piece of
ice like children Jesus and then rollup the windows on top of it.
I'm like, no, it's justa park and they just they watered it
down. I was like what hewas so distraught over? He's like,
that's bullship. I was like,dude, the magic of movies, my
friend, How did you not knowit's cooler? Do it? Yeah?

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Yeah, I hate to tell youthat. Yeah, beast Masters also did
not ride tigers. That's another thing, like cooler bro, Next thing you're
gonna tell me Steve Martin didn't growup a poor black child? Like see,
man, you know they they dupeus. They dupe us all the
time. I thought they were allautobiographical. So you're so in radio.

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I just we're going to get backto the jokes. I'm the wrangler here.
You did you did radio, You'vedone radio for a very long time.
I actually I'm a former radio manmyself. I did country radio because
I hated myself. Oh where wereyou at? Uh? Well I did,
uh? I did. Used todo radio on a BRAINERD Minnesota,
the b No. I was ninetythree, Oh god, no, I

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was ninety three three point three Today'sHot Country, and I was Clancy Williams
because I was too ashamed to goby my real man. Good for you,
good for you, Clancy. Yeah, and then uh that was my
real I went by my real nameon one oh six point seven f M
W J J Y playing the besthits the eighties nineties in the day.
That was Dida with Thank You.Coming up next, We're gonna listen to
Boys to Men with End of theRoad. Yeah, so so did you?

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Was Clancy Williams Clancy Clarence those thingswhere like it was a sister station
where you would do be on loudationthat yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
dude. There was a guy Iused to work with who was he
was such a pushover and he woulddo he was such a yes man all
the time that he was hired onone radio stage. And this back then,

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you know, there was no automatedYou had to be live in the
studio to keep the station running.And he would literally there'd be like sometimes
a two hour gap where he wouldbe scheduled at one station and then simultaneously
scout scheduled at the second station,and he would be on the air at
the same time, going back andforth between studios for two hours. I
was like, dude, just letsomebody know. He's like, I don't

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want I don't want to upset anybody. Man. I like my job.
I don't want to get fired.I'm like enough to for two hours that
they just paid me double. Noway, really, yeah they got.
I got because this guy did notget I was. I wasn't getting I
was. I was the night guy, so I wasn't getting a lot of
money, but I was doing double. So what I would do is I
would like do my breaks and Iwould do the other breaks when the other

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music was playing. Yeah, youknow, you just do like the thirty
second you know, news, news, weather, quick thing. You know
we're using we're using uh, we'reusing mac computers. I forget the name
of the program. Now this isthe early two thousands, and go,
uh something like that. Yeah,where and then we would like time it
out, and I got in troublebecause uh on the easy listening station,

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you know, we're to time itout. And I would sometimes I wasn't
good with math because I'm from Crosby, Minnesota, and uh there's the correlation
that I promise, and uh,I would always use I'm on Fire by
Bruce Springsteen because that was a twominute and twenty five second song. And
then like we got this memo sayingwe're playing too much Bruce Springsteen. Hilarious.

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Yeah, yeah, anything cool awayat night. The night guys don't
get shipped, no, man.And that's always the thing that they try
to when they offer you these jobsfor you know, twenty seven thousand dollars
a year to move to Atlanta.They're always like, no, but you're
gonna do gigs and blah blah blah. I'm the night guy. I'm not
gonna be out doing bar gigs andstuff. No, Like, you don't
get me endorsements. The morning showgets that. It's all so yeah,

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yeah, silly man. Like Iwhen I got my first my first paycheck
here at ninety three X do anafternoon drive, I got paid twenty seven
thousand dollars a year for afternoon drivein Minneapolis. And when this was two
thousand and six, and I andthat is a ten thousand dollars a year

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raised from doing mornings in Lacrosse,Wisconsin, where I was making seventeen thousand
dollars a year. Yea, andI was. And I was, Oh,
when I got that first paycheck thatwas like five hundred dollars, I
thought I was rich. I'm like, look at me all right here,
man, you know, because likeback then my rent was two hundred and
twenty three dollars a month. Like, yeah, I was whatever, man,
you know, so, but timesare different. Man, Oh my

(27:42):
god. I remember my dad yellingat me one time. He said,
my stepdad, he said, mymortgage just four hundred dollars a month.
I was like, motherfucker, Icould own like five houses for four hundred
dollars. I have to say.Also, I mean at that time,
you were making that in a weekendroofing. Yeah, why was I not
buying houses? You know? Yeah, I should be. You need a

(28:03):
time machine on this podcast? Goddamn it. Think did you ever have
like the obsessive fans like and Iknow, especially in small market radio,
you get the weirdos, So anytimeyou're doing a live thing, they're there
all the time. Oh it's uhoh Spencer's back. Yeah we had to
Uh I've had like, there's beensome cool ones. But you know the
problem with like this living in thesmall towns is that people find out where

(28:26):
you live. And I had Ihad a couple of run ins with somebody
that found out. We were havinga party one night and they were walking
down the street and they just sawa party and they walked in and then
they saw something on my wall,like I don't know if it was like
a poster or something I had signedby a band. And then they figured
out that it was I was theguy from the radio station. And then

(28:47):
it was three times a week,four times a week. He was constantly
walking by. She was constant yeah, yeah, And it started to get
it started to get a little stockerish to the point where I had to
I had to tell her, nomore, you got you can't come around.
We did have a guy that isuh, I don't know. This

(29:07):
is kind of a longer story,but basically like we had to get police
involved, we had to get somewe had to get some on Yeah.
Yeah, No, we had aguy that was he was He was a
weird dude and he used to kindof come around to all the gigs at
ninety three X and everybody kind ofknew him, and he was just a
weird, squirrely guy. And onethis was me a decade had gone on.

(29:30):
He was still coming to everybody's gigs. And a girl I used to
work with at a radio station KSninety five, this girl named Dez.
She was like she was telling me, She's like, there's this weird guy
that's been showing up telling my gigslately. And then I put two and
two together that it was the samedude, and I'm like, oh,
I know this guy. This guy'she's a space cadet man, Like he's
not right. There's something going onthere with this guy. So he showed

(29:52):
up. We had a big Idon't know like that always do those dumb
things where they're like, for thenext ninety minutes, you can get gas
for ninety five cents or what herbullshit you got to do. So he
showed up to one of those thingsthe minute we started and was there the
entire hour and a half, didnot leave the entire time, and was
trying to talk to everybody and makingit weird. And at some point he
said he was going to kill thegovernor, and yeah, I don't know

(30:17):
where he came up, and hewas like he was like showing people videos
of him with like fully automatic weapons, and so then of course, you
know, my general sales manager getsinvolved and they got to get security involved,
and they basically after that happened,I got an email from another guy
at a radio station that said,Hey, I think we have we're having

(30:37):
a problem with this guy. AndI think you're also having a problem with
this guy. And I said yeah, and then you're his friends day and
you talk to him and he's,yeah, he knows you well, Rudy.
Yeah. And this dude was hewas just one of those like weirdo
dudes, and this was I don'tknow. So finally, like somebody from
Hubbard Broadcasting had sent kind of like, uh, I don't know, like

(31:00):
there's there's private security team. Fromwhat I understand, they went down to
his house and was like, justto give your heads up, if you
show up at any more of theseyou're gonna have problems. And I would
stop talking about killing a governor Carlson, Yeah, the governor. I think

(31:22):
it's he Arnie Carlson would be thefunniest governor to kill. If you're gonna
say that you're gonna kill a governor, Like, oh no, no,
no, no, we're not talkingabout killing governors here. Jesse is just
gonna die in his own I'm gonnasay the Ventura what you could? Yeah,
have you guys seen the Jesse Venturapainting that hangs in the basement of
the State Capitol building, Like hisofficial portrait his official portrait is amazing.

(31:47):
You should google it. It's amazingbecause it is you have like Arnie Carlson
has got his like letterman's jacket on, and Tim Plenty is there with his
wife, and Jesse Ventura is likethis ominous dark cloud. There's age with
a lightning strike and an American flagand an eagle, like it is the
wildest painting you've ever seen. It'sso insane. But yeah, it's crazy

(32:12):
here, Yeah, it's insane.So yeah, so they so they basically
with this dude. They went downand told this guy, no more,
man, you can't come around.And then fast forward to like about a
year ago. I was walking outof a comedy club and I saw him
and he was he was walking hewas walking out of I'm not going to
say which one, but he waswalking out of a restaurant where you know

(32:36):
it's sort of known for women withtight clothes. You know, uh,
we both know exactly where you're absolutelyyeah, but you know, I don't
need him to know that I sawhim. So I went down to talking
about goonies in Rochester, Minnesota.Obviously, yes, the TGI Fridays across
the street. Those gals were verytight clothes, but scooters. I went

(33:00):
to I went down to the restaurantand I walked in and I said,
Hey, that guy who just walkedout of here, just to give you
guys a heads up. And oneof the girls turned around and she goes,
he's the weirdest guy I've ever met. And I'm like, not only
is he weird, he's dangerous.So please make sure that you never make
sure that you are with somebody whenyou If he's here, when you leave
your job, you have somebody walkyou out to your car. He's a

(33:21):
dangerous person. Don't get involved withthat guy. First second, I thought
you you were going to say thathe became a fan of stand up comedy,
and I was like, oh,jeez, of course, Like,
yeah, of course it tracks.Actually he's actually in the finals of Year
Night. Yeah, we know allabout you. Yeah. Now, for

(33:44):
the most part, For the mostpart, people are cool. You know,
they just like to hang and theyjust want to be recognized and they
like to hang with the person becauseyou're the closest thing to their favorite band.
So that's why they dig you,you know, right, So I
don't know, you just try tobe cool about it. Well, there's
that thing on the other side ofit too, Like I found that a
lot of them. Again, there'slike your friends, Like we're friends because
I listen to you every day andyour voice is what keeps me from being

(34:07):
feeling alone. It's like, we'regoing to edit that out. I'm actually
gonna edit that part of you sayingwe're gonna edit that out, and that's
the new clip anyway. But youknow what I'm talking about, Like that's
can I just say, as aguy who studied radio, studies radio and

(34:29):
the inner workings of you know,duos and shows, I love the fact
that Matt is just so put togetherand Joe is just over there just ripping
bond loads and drinking beers. Youhad a drinker? No, I'm Marve
a smoker. Yeah I wish Iwas. I'm not. Yeah, yeah,

(34:52):
is that not? That is?This is very creepy. So it's
a dark, gloomy day and avery black sky. Yet yet the sun
is shining so hard on his face. Yeah, there's so much light on
his Is that him leaning on Atlasshrug? I believe so a tiny a

(35:14):
tiny at least think it's the thinker. It's the thinker. Yea yea yeah,
yah, yeah, yeah yeah.And then there's under his arm is
some sort of like mill on theriver. Oh you know what that is.
That's the stone Arch Bridge. Ohokay. And then we've got the
Capitol Building all the way in theback in the middle of a forest,

(35:36):
right weird, Like the top there'slike a little bit of purple for some
reason. Tie. Very patriotic.Yeah. And if you look up like
Arnie Carlson's official portrait, it's justlike him outside of the University of Minnesota
in the middle of the fall withhis letner of his his jacket on.
You're like, oh, that's aquaint photo of a man. Here's here's

(36:00):
Dayton. It's just him in frontof the Capitol Building. Really nice,
just a nice portrait. Yeah.Have you guys seen this Ventura lately?
He looks like the cricket Dude?He doesn't. He looks terrible. Is
he's going to sell you some He'sgonna sell you some CBD gummies? Holy
shit, dude, he was juston because I watched the news on Sunday
mornings and he was just on cCEO talking to esme and the whole time

(36:24):
she was I don't know. Shewas trying to talk about his CBD gummies
or something, and he's going onabout like my mom, we're having me
on. My mom used to shovelsnow back in you know, back in
nineteen seventy eight. That's how shemade money as mate, That's how we
made it through. That's how shebought bread with some shoveling snow. It's
like, what are you talking about, man, Governor Ventura. We just

(36:46):
uh, we just we're here.We're interested in your cannabis business and why
you have chosen Brooklyn Park, Minnesotaas the place for you. What.
Thank you with me? Thank youfor having me on. Have you seen
the buckles on the bottoms of myshoes before I talk about my CBD company.
I just I would be remiss ifI didn't say they knew. The

(37:09):
government knew. Es Mate for mypaintes Mate, two words for you,
s May for my paint. Iain't got time paint. I'm not sure
if this has anything to do withmarijuana edibles. I eat like chicklet'ses mate

(37:35):
because I know the truth that thegovernment knew, and they make you a
sexual tyrannosaurus just like me. Ido love. Do you watch Rudy Do
you watch his uh that TV showthat he had the investigation? Oh my
god, have you sit down,sit down with your daughter and wat day.

(37:57):
Just watch Conspiracy Theory by Jesse Ventura. Is that what you're doing?
Then we get halfway through and I'mlike, this is actually a Tales from
the Crypt I'm sorry, basically twoYeah, he looks terrible. Yeah,
that does so Rudy. Any Look, so you're in ninety three, You're
on ninety three X, which isa big station for those of you who
don't now the the X to theYeah, from the edge to the end.

(38:22):
No, no, that was thatwas way before my I was like
early that was late nineties, Ibelieve. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was like maybe like ninety five, ninety six somewhere in there.
And then yeah, I came ontwo thousand and six, so like Tom
Mastery had already moved on. Shewas she had it was just about it.
I think she died in two thousandand eight, so she was kind

(38:42):
of on the last couple of legsthere. But yeah, man, all
the original I mean, you know, the half Assed Morning Show was still
intact. The you know, theoriginal version of it. Remy had already
left, like there was so Idon't know, there was one or two
of the ogs that were still therebesides the morning show, but that was
it. Man, Like I kindof came in and I don't know,

(39:02):
just you're the second class. Yeah, like your expectations when I got there
they were so high. And thenI got there and I was like,
oh, this is not what Ithought it was going to be. And
I mean, okay, it wasa great job. I was there for
eight years, I think, andit was fine. I loved it because
it was the job I wanted andI got it and it was great.
And I think after, you know, after I don't know, maybe six

(39:23):
months in, I was like,oh, this is because then, like
you know, being in small towns, you have to wear certain you have
to wear nine hats, you haveto be the program director, and you're
there and you're the on air talent, and you think you're selling on air
apps. Absolutely you're doing all thisshit and you don't want to do any
of it, but you know,but you don't have enough time in the
day to be petty. But wherein Minneapolis, you know, you you

(39:44):
only work for if your shift isfour hours on the air. You work
for maybe five hours. You showup, you do some prep, you
cut a couple of commercials, dothe show, get the hell out of
there so you have time to,like, you know, have petty squabbles
with other talent and stuff. Soit was just and I'm not like that.
I'm not a guy who I don'ttalk about comics even if I don't
like you. I was brought itup this weekend because you know comics who

(40:07):
have other problems with other comics,and I'm like, for me, I
have figured out that I will beeven if I have a problem with you.
I will always be nice to you. But it's to what level?
How am I going to be withyou? Yes, maybe I will give
you the shirt off my back.If I don't think you're that great of
a comic. I don't think you'restrong yet, but you're working at it,
I'll give you seven minutes on myshow. Because I was fortunate enough

(40:29):
to have people give me guest sets. I'll be that guy. But if
I don't really don't like him,you're gonna warn You're gonna warn a chicks
who work in restaurants about you.Yes, please, Yeah, Although that
guy. That guy has a verytight five right now, and I'm very
jealous of that type five. Yeah, almost as tight as their shirts.
But it is no. But I'mbut I just I just man, I

(40:51):
just don't have it in me towant to be like have those just so
much life to live and just behappy and just go have fun. Even
like the even though there's only oneor two that I have issues with here
in Minneapolis, I nothing bad.I'm sorry. Well, when I do
this on the left side of thestage and I'm not looking at the left
side of the street, yeah,yeah, no, no, no,

(41:15):
no, that's funny, man,because like everybody, everybody who has you
know, I'll bring up somebody's nameand they go, oh, that guy,
that's son of a bitch, andI'm like, I'm like, everybody
I know loves that guy. Somaybe maybe it's you. Maybe you're the
one who's having an issue with people, because whenever I hear people no,
and I just man, like,there's just so many I don't know,

(41:38):
there's just so many missed opportunities thatyou can bring to yourself if you're just
not a dick, Like, there'sso many good things that you can do
and help yourself when you're just anice person. That's all it takes.
You know, I'll use no timefor pettiness because there isn't, but people
find the time because they're not focusedon their Yeah. Absolutely, yeah,

(42:04):
back to the radio just real quickbefore we go onto our neck. Did
you get to like interview anyone likethat that was like a real memorable sort
of thing, Like, I know, afternoon guys don't get as many of
the interviews as more of like themorning show guys do. But like in
any time in radio, did doyou have any like really fascinating guests on
your shows or anything that like thatreally stands out? You know, I
did more music than anything. SoCorey Taylor off slip Knot was a great

(42:27):
interview that one still like makes therounds. It was a it was a
really riveting interview. He was veryhonest about things, and that was kind
of after slip Knot had already kindof was a I mean, not that
they're not a relevant band now,but they were definitely not at their peak
where they used to be, andStone Sour was kind of on the way
up, so he was cool,Like he was a great interview interviewed,
you know, I mean interviewed Ozzy, hung out with Ozzy. Probably my

(42:51):
favorite interview I ever did was EdSheeron because Ed Sheeron was a nobody when
I interviewed. When I was likewith him, there was nobody. He
was an absolute zero. Nobody knewof Ed Sheeran. His first single A
Team had just come out and hecame into the radio station. He was
trying to promote it. He wasjust kind of starting to get a little
traction and he was a super coolguy. It was just him and I

(43:13):
in a room for like twenty minutes, just chatting about life, and he
went out played a couple of songsfor listeners and a week later he's the
biggest act on the planet. Andyeah, just the fact that you got
to like kick it with him andyou really got to see that he was
already kind of set in his waysas to who he was and stardom was

(43:34):
never gonna make him. Because sometimesyou meet people when they're lower on the
rung and you go, ooh,that guy would be a problem if he
ever gets famous, and then ithappens and then they do blow up.
I mean, there's so many babybands that you are around at the time
when they're nobody's. You know,I bring up this band only because they're
the top of mind. I wasjust listening to him the other day.
Somebody played a song with the bandthree Days Grace. They were the biggest

(43:58):
band on the planet. You don'teven nobody even remember that band. Now
we got a chance to hang withthem. They were nobody's and one of
the guys in the band, likethat guy left and my old morning show
partner looked at me and goes,oh, that guy is going to be
a huge dick one day. AndI was like, one day, he's
already there. And then they thatband blows up and they're around for three
years and everybody found out that they'rehuge assholes and nobody wanted to spend their

(44:19):
stuff anymore. And then that wasthat and there I don't know even know
if they're a band anymore, butI don't know, But it's just county
fairs still need entertainment. Okay,dude, how many times have we do?
How many times can you see smashMouth where like a funnel cake is
being made right next door and you'relike, wow, that was still touring
even though the lead singer's dead.I just saw the touring. It's like

(44:42):
it's it's smash Mouth with with Rome. No, uh, smash Mouth with
Sublime and Rome like they all nowthey're all together. Yeah, it's actually
it's smash Mouth with the lead singerfrom Oh Fuck. Who's that the Malaysian
guy that got to replace Steve Perry? Are you talking about the dude from
Journey? What? Yeah, theyreplaced Steve Perry and Journey with a guy

(45:05):
from Malaysia who could actually get thenotes and sing. I thought you meant
they actually took that dude from fromthe Journey. That would be great,
though they're just sniping other singers overspots. It's whoever singing for Queen these
days? There you go. Thatwould be amazing. Could you imagine that'd

(45:25):
be great? Rudy, We don'tjust exist on this podcast to talk about
radio giveaways, people who possibly triedto kill former governor Tim Polenti and uh,
you know, nailing people on aroof. No one tried to kill
me, Matthew. No, it'sbecause you would take him out in the
ring, rip their arms off.This is true. I give them a

(45:45):
Winnie the Pooh Matthew, I wouldpoke my head out of their honey hole.
Oh my god, imagine that guywanting to tie you up with his
feather boa be or hot whatever yourthing is. Anyway, well my CBD,
gummy Matthew. All right, lookat you. Look at your documents.

(46:14):
Body. Okay, you gotta golook at the documents. Safe for
my paint. We don't just existon this podcast to do Jesse Ventura impersonations
talk about roofing and all the othergood stuff. No, we also exist
to battle the scourge that is knownas Karen's. But before we go into
our next segment, Rudy, howwould you define a Karen? Hmmm,

(46:40):
I don't know. I guess.I mean, I guess, I don't
know. I don't trying to gettoo cute with this ship. I guess
it's just like, you know,some bitchy suburban mom, you know,
short haircut, little frumpy, kindof kind of pulling a trunk, you
know, uhh, I mean Ican, I can see it in my
head visually. You know, probablygot like that still rocking the Rachel from

(47:02):
nineteen ninety six, got that haircut, you know, each nip. Sorry,
no, I was gonna say,is there a definition of a Karen
that, Oh no, We justlike to find out everyone has their own
definition. So that's why we liketo ask. Well. Each and every
week we look at different yell reviews, Google reviews, Facebook reviews. Sometimes
their tweets are handwritten notes, andit's a segment we call the Karen of

(47:27):
Karen I'm your boss. Oh mygod, Oh my god, Karen,
I'm I'm oh my god, Karen, this next YELP review. You know,

(48:00):
I'm just going to say it onthis podcast. We all know that
during COVID, we didn't know whatthe fuck was going on, right,
We had no idea. You know, Restaurants, bars, places were just
trying to like, we want tobe safe, but we also want to
do food and a lot of timesthey had to follow the rules of the
government. So it was some kidat a host stand or some bartender who
had to tell somebody, especially inthe state of Minnesota, like hey,

(48:22):
you know, you need to weara mask. Not thought it was effective
or not, but you know,it wasn't on the kid. The seventeen
year old kid, the twenty oneyear old bartender. They're not the ones
who are trying to be Dick,They're just trying to follow the rules.
Well, this next Yell review isfrom someone who had some opinions on that.
And each and every week call acontributor, former third Mic and general

(48:45):
saint of a human being, RebeccaWilson dramatically re enacts one of these Karen
complaints. And here's Rebecca with theKaren of the week. Quick at it.
There was a bit of an audiosnaff who and in the interest of
getting this episode out, the Karenof the Week will be read by myself,
Matt Douima, but eventually we willget Rebecca's audio put in. So

(49:10):
if you hear this, you getto hear a rare version of me reading
a Karen of the Week. Anarrogant staff who believes they can belittle customers
for not wearing their masks to theirprofessional standard or specifications. The lunatic with
quarter sized holes in his ears thoughtit was his duty to remind me to

(49:30):
wear my mask properly the three stepsto my table. Despite the mask being
in place and secure. He said, if I didn't like the rules,
that I could leave. So wedid keep it up. Asshole. Ere
boy, you just seen a permanentban. Well, I kind of agree

(49:51):
with what she's saying. I'm nota big fan of people who make twelve
dollars an hour to tell others whoare pain what they should or should not
be doing. Uh, But Ialso hate you, know cause I'm I'm
not sure exactly where you guys fallpolitically, But for me, I was
always such a lefty for so longuntil COVID happened, And now I'm just

(50:14):
like, I can't have as it'skilling me. Man, Like, I'm
just and the thing is, like, none of my stances have changed,
but everything on that side of theaisle has, like it's just gotten so
crazy. It's like, dude,you're forcing people out of the party.
The only thing that drives me nutsabout this is I agree with this lady.
You know, you can complain aboutthe fact that you know the kid

(50:35):
who's serving you whatever it is yourHOGI tells you to wear a mask.
I hate it when people go onlineand complain about this shit. And gave
the Best Business a one star review. Yeah, you have nothing better to
do with your time? Like howinsane? What like, there's I'm sorry,
you're go ahead? What no,what's I was just like, ear
boy, Yeah, like making funof his gauges. Like that's like like

(51:00):
a well, he's a probably he'sa good heterosexual, Christian Republican man.
Yeah, just likes holes in hisears. Here's the thing, So he's
just like you, Karen Joel ourhearts with when these Yelp reviews have a

(51:21):
clapback from the owner, Yes,and this is a clapback on the Awful
Service podcast from the owner of thisestablishment. At least say, he says,
eat buttholes that I want owners tojust be like, fuck you,
dick face, You're not wanted.You know what, your band, We
actually put a photo up of you. If you fucking try to come back,

(51:43):
you're not allowed. We actually puta photo of you at the door.
If you see this person, don'tto go funk off because she's not
We're gonna change the name of therestaurant to yes. No, but this
is this is from the owner andthis this is a great listen, so
we're gonna get a different side ofthis story. Sir. When I asked

(52:04):
you to put your mask on thatyou were holding up to your face,
not on or behind the ear holes. You threw a fit. Then weren't
around your eyes walking around to makea scene, then threw it down and
said, are you happy now?As I stated, we didn't make the
rules. The health Department does,and we didn't need your disrespect. By

(52:24):
the way, I am not theserver. I am the owner. Have
a blessed day, sincerely, earhole boy. Yes, you know what
though, And here's the thing aboutthat owner. Don't get me wrong,
I'm glad that they have that clapbackmoment, but as a business owner,
you should be first. You're talkingabout the CDC. Were the ones who

(52:44):
made these rules. You should befirst off, you should be the first
one in line telling the CDC togo get fucked. You should be the
one telling them that we shouldn't bemandated to wear these masks. And I
shouldn't have to tell all my staffthat they have to get vaccinated to come
to work. None of that shouldbe should be legal. I agree with
like have of like what he said, But at the same time, I'm
like, why are you guys notin the goddamn street rioting over this stuff.

(53:06):
That's the part that angers me themost about it is the second you
are told that you know that you'renot allowed to come back to work unless
you get the vaccine. You know, what's her name? Riley Gaines?
Riley Gaines was do you guys knowthe story of Riley Gaines. Riley Gaines
is an Olympic caliber swimmer. Shewas for the University of Kentucky. She

(53:29):
was going to go on and becomethe fastest woman to ever swim collegiately,
and then in all that taken awayfrom her when Leah Thompson, Leah Thomas
decided to go ahead and transition froma dude who is like ranked two hundred
and sixty fourth in the men's toa woman who is now ranked number one,

(53:49):
And basically, you know, theUniversity of Kentucky was like, there's
nothing we can do. She ishe is now a she and they are
allowing her to compete as a woman. So you know, you can either
you know, you can either justget in the pool or shut your mouth
or not come with us. Andshe said, well, get in the
goddamn pool. And then it becamea thing where they said, hey,

(54:10):
you can only come to the meetsif you get vaccinated, and she was
like, not gonna have that.And there's no way I can't make me
get vaccinated to be a part ofthis team, and then that ended up
going to like a Supreme Court casein the state of Kentucky, and then
she won and she still got tocompete. But all this stuff that I
hear about with the goddamn you know, the vaccines and the mass and all
that stuff, like, why arewe not still to this day? Are

(54:34):
we not like just like pounding onthe door of the government, going dude,
we want answers, fauci. Youjust don't get to go ahead and
make that proclamation about Hey, I'msorry, Joe, go ahead, no,
no, no, no, Iagree with everything that you're saying,
except like if we would have justdone it as a team like USA USA,

(54:57):
wear your mask, fucking stance feetapart, just fucking wash your goddamn
hands before you touch stuff, likeit's for like a six months, we
would have beat the thing. Buteverybody had to politicize shit, and it's
like, I'm not gonna wear mymask because I'm a free American and you're
not gonna take my rights away andI'm gonna wear it on my eye and
I'm gonna be a dick. Justfucking yeah. Nineteen five, if everybody

(55:28):
was like, oh, fucking I'mnot kidding the fucking polio vaccine. Fucking
I'm gonna go a party with myfriends and fucking we'd have eleven Americans.
We'd be all dead from fucking polio. We'd all be a bunch of fucking
cripples, not winning anything in thefucking Olympics. Yeah. Well, and

(55:50):
here's the thing. I'm not sayingthat vaccines don't work, but I am
definitely saying that is like it's like, okay, like it's they also had
all like the African America in thecommunity, try the vaccine first. It's
all fucking the whole thing is allgiant fucking mudslide. Yeah and see.
And here's the thing, especially likeMatt, when you brought up you know,
like, wow, I got reallyserious. Uh. My biggest issue

(56:15):
with people is, you know,there's a guy that I worked for who
made a comment one time where hesaid, you know, during the pandemic,
I didn't I learned nothing about viruses, but I learned a lot about
people. And I'm like, yeah, And the thing that I've walked away
from is even though I have myopinions on things and other people have their
opinions on things, I will nevernot enjoy somebody's company or talk shit about

(56:36):
them just because they look at atopic differently than I do. And that
is the thing where I'm like,I know you guys disagree Like that was
The thing about John Stewart that Istill love the most is even though he
can disagree with people, guys likeBill O'Reilly can go on his show and
they can squabble, But the secondthe red light goes off, he gives
Bill a handshake and says, youwant to go get some dinner, let's

(56:58):
just hang. I don't need toto talk politics. I like you as
a person. And that's what Ithink we've really lost. Man, We
really really lost a lot of that, and that's hard, especially in comedy,
man, Like you know, yousee people I hate the fact when
you are that guy's a hack,that guy's of this, that guy's of
that, And I'm like, haveyou not noticed that when that happens,
that's I'm sorry you had to hearthat about me. No, we wouldn't

(57:22):
never the old idiom that, uh, nice guys are terrible comedians. Yeah,
I don't know, man, drivebar comedy is definitely do you guys
know the uh do you guys knowthe story with dry Bar? I love
dry Bar by the way, becauseI know. But I'm like I've had
We've had. I got how manydifferent dry Bar comics on this podcast now?

(57:45):
At least a handful? Uh plusplus I you know, I wear
a couple anyway. So here's isgreat and we love dry Bar on this
pod. Dude, absolutely, I'mnot. I love Drive. I was
just with those guys. I waswith those guys. And it's the same
company that does Angel Studio. Doyou guys know about Angel Studios? No?

(58:07):
Yes, So their Angel Studios arethe ones who put out The Sound
of Freedom, that movie about childtrafficking. They also have a new one
coming out called The Sound of Hope, which is about the adoption process in
the United States. They have ashow called The Chosen that they're doing.
They also are part of Drybar.Drybar and Angel Studios are in the same

(58:29):
building. It's the same company essentially. And I was in Utah a couple
of weeks ago. We were hangingout with those guys and one of the
things that they talked about was thesecret sauce as to why Drybar is Drybar.
Now, I mean like they gotlike four billion views on their channel,
and the reason why is because whenthey first started, they were like,
we got to be clean, wegot to be one hundred percent wholesome.
So they went out and they foundall these clean comics and they realized,

(58:50):
wow, clean comics suck. Theseguys are not good. And then
I mean outside of like a BrianReagan or outside you know what I mean,
Like, yeah, yeah, it'sabsolutely man like. And that's the
thing I tell comics all the time. Like when I first started coming up,
there was a club in town calledGutties. They were basically like a
Christian comedy club, and I woulddo shows there every week. Yeah,

(59:10):
I would do shows there all thetime because it forces you to become a
better comic. You can't just relyon all the dirty stuff and tell comics
on all the time. Go doclean man so dry bar. After the
first couple of times, they werelike, Okay, these guys are good,
but they're almost too squeaky clean andthey're not that great at comics.
And then somebody said, hey,why don't you guys instead of having people
do forty five minute sets clean,why don't you guys go find dirty comics?

(59:35):
Who can do twenty minute sets cleanand then you'll get better comics.
So that's the new that's the secretsauce is they That's why you see.
That's why you see people like what'shis dude's name. There's Zoltan. That
guy's got like like eleven million viewson his dry bar. You have guys
like that Shane dude's got all thetattoos. He's not a clean comic,
but he did twenty minutes of cleanand he got three million views on it.

(59:58):
So like that's kind of friends likeMike Brody and absolutely yeah, Anny
Ryman, Tim Harmston. Tim Harmson'sposter hangs in that studio. When you
go there, it's like it's amazing, you know. So yeah, there's
and then you know these guys whenthey're actually like when they're not doing a
clean and it's just like I thinkthey celebrate it. I did a show

(01:00:19):
with Brody after he had done aweek on like the on the Cruise Lines
and so he'd been doing squeaky clean, and like literally every other word out
of his mouth was fuck yeah.It's like, oh, it's like spending
the day in a monastery. Andthen you get to come out and like
I could, Yeah, this isyour rum Spring comedic RUMs Springer and like

(01:00:46):
like a dirty comic trying to doclean comedies. Sometimes we have to ask
ourselves, Gee, why did itfail? Everything? Everything? I was
here to stay? Now I haveto figure out why do you? Why
did it fa? G Why DidIt Fail? Is a segment we do

(01:01:10):
in the podcast where we look atdifferent restaurant items, restaurant concepts, businesses,
and honestly, ever since we reallyswitched over to stream Yard, we've
been able to do commercials and andthat's been a lot of fun. And
I like, we've been loving togo back and find ones that just ooh,
they just didn't they didn't age well, some of these vintage ones even

(01:01:31):
for the time when maybe a bitbit risque. And you know, I
was thinking about it with the newozembic diet and I was thinking about what
were some of the old diet fadsback in the day, and and I
found one and it's a new dieand I think, you know, I
think it might have some legs.Boys, I just want to see what
you guys think about it. Butit's uh, this week's G Why did

(01:01:52):
It Fail? Yes, the AIDSdiet. Ay yah yai, Oh yes
I remember this, Yeah, therewas. It was a diet that started
in the nineteen seventies and the ideawas you get to eat chocolate and lose
weight. Yeah, oh god,well where could this go wrong? Yep,

(01:02:16):
it's just I Without further introduction,here's here's an AIDE diet commercial from
nineteen eighty four. I was overweightand looked terrible, but AIDS helped me
lose forty six pounds. The Agediaplane helped me lose twenty eight pounds.
Age helps control your appetite, soyou lose weight. Yet age lets you

(01:02:37):
taste you and enjoy and the appetitesupress and in age is not a stimulant.
Eights helped me to lose eighteen poundsand it doesn't contain anything to make
me nervous. Question, why takediet pills when you can enjoy eight eight?
You got age, not HIV bus. It's like, what are the

(01:03:04):
flavors of AIDS? We have avanilla chocolate and chocolate. It's like a
milk chocolate, milk chocolate as ohgod, there was a it stands for
something? Right? Did this standfor? Like? Like all all your
Yeah, I was present. Yeah, the A was appetite, the S

(01:03:28):
was suppressant, and I forget whatthe Y and the D was Yeah something
in there, yeah, diet something, Yeah it is. Yeah, you
know what else? Uh? Youknow, I don't know if you guys
know this, but you know Ished twenty pounds from cancer. That's what
I did. I took off twentypounds just to Yeah, just a pill
every morning, you know. That'show I got it. I got rid
of mine, just the cancer pill. That's that's how you drop a couple

(01:03:51):
of pill a couple of pounds.Wow. The lady was wearing the little
eighties workout spanned X. Yeah,just talking how much she lost in joy
from the New Jersey. She wasso Sicklerville with the aids. Yeah,

(01:04:12):
she has the Karen haircut too.Oh all right, controls appetite, but
also has taste and to enjoy?What what is enjoy? What is enjoy?
The so we have a little checkboxes here and the diet pills.
You don't enjoy taking the diet pillwith stimulants. Yeah, now I like

(01:04:36):
that. I'm sy Matt. Ithought you were gonna play that part again.
Can you play that part again realquick. When they do the the
graphic there, I want to seethat part again. Appetites eppress and an
aid age. Let you taste toand enjoy diet pills. You can't enjoy.
You can't you because you shuve upyour ass. Tried chewing a diet

(01:05:00):
pill. It's impossible. Yeah,that's how you lose all the weight burning
calaries, just trying to chew upthere goddamn pills. This guy looks like
he lost to Pat Sajack for Wheelof Fortune. Oh yeah, and he
was stuck doing AIDS commercials. Healso he has Pat Sajack's doing Wheel of
Fortune. This guy goes home justfucking looks at his tiny AIDS paychecks,

(01:05:28):
has like a hungry man dinner byhimself watching Wheel of Fortune. Oh,
Pat, you're fucking shit. Theseguys got like thirty nine age rappers just
laying on the ground around. He'sjust a little chocolate. Yeah. He
looks like Ben Stiller at the endof Dodge Balls. Fuck you say,
Jack, He's just he has allthe heads that he can eat. Jack,

(01:05:55):
you got great hair. My hairis just we know nothing else about
AIDS. We know it does thefollowing appatite, so you lose weight yet
age, let you taste chew andenjoy it. Lets you taste to and
enjoy. He's chewing, he's notenjoying. I want to buy an A
for AIDS and the appetites of breastin an age is not a stimulant.

(01:06:21):
Thank you help me to lose eighteenpounds and it doesn't take anything. Go
back, go back. I lovewhat they say. Linda Parker is from
Schenectady, New York. Oh mygod, I love the fucking shit towns
day. Oh yes, Linda Parkerfrom Schenectady. Well, you know why

(01:06:41):
they do that is because anybody it'sall like small town people that buy all
this garbage. Okay, small townpeople get AIDS, Rudy, Is that
what you're saying? Oh yeah,if you looked at you looked at a
chart of AIDS in America in nineteeneighty four, it was yeah, it
was very small in the big verymuch pea getting in Schenectady. Oh yeah,

(01:07:05):
no, they love this stuff manlike lacrosse. Well, yeah,
because you know it's all like thesewere all like so daytime television commercials and
just like housewives are just sitting athome like husband's out, you know,
pounding the pavement. Ladies of Linda'son the TV. She lost weight.
She got that Linda had AIDS.Yeah, oh she has. Oh I

(01:07:31):
remember when Linda Parker was so fatbefore she got AIDS. You know that
you taste And what a time thatmust have been when those two things were
overlapping, like when AIDS was whenAIDS chocolate was still on the shelves,
but then AIDS the virus was beingspread. What a time to because now

(01:07:53):
we look back on it and go, that's so ridiculous. But imagine being
the fucking marketing team for AIDS thetasty chew dietary supplement as they just opened
the paper and AIDS epidemic, justlike, oh jeez, we're start.
Hey do you have a box forall my ship on my desk? Hey?

(01:08:13):
You look really good. What's yoursecret? AIDS aids? Aids,
Oh, the dietary supplement, notthe you. No, I don't know.
You know you've been hanging out tothose night clubs though you know the
other You didn't get AIDS at theTurkish bath house? Did so? Did

(01:08:34):
we figure out why AIDS just wenton a bit when AIDS went out of
business. Yeah, the second secondMagic Johnson, Yeah, the second Magic
Johnson had that press conference. Thatis the second that that went right off
the shelves. Like what Jesus man, if Linda, Yeah, if if

(01:08:55):
Linda's got some blind friends, she'sgot some explaining to do. Don't see
the ay D S and uh anddon't try googling it as R and D.
It just brings up a bunch ofshit about AIDS. Oh sure,
yeah, yeah, AIDS helped meto lose eighteen parents. Question, he's

(01:09:15):
not nervous to have AIDS. Youguys know you know what though, Like
we've kicked Aids's ass so bad,why don't they bring Okay, hold on,
I gotta I found an article.Uh, and this is an article
titled quick history of how AIDS AI D S ended a AIDS A y
DS the dietary Supplement. I thinkwe could figure that one out. I

(01:09:36):
don't think there's a lot of beyondthe pale on that one, you know
what I mean? Like, Ithink I think we I think we're pretty
clear. Yeah, it was definitelyAIDS killed AIDS. You just started to
say it's weaponized AIDS. Yeah,all right, Uh, let's see if

(01:09:59):
I okay, do we have aflavors? We had chocolate, chocolate,
mint, butterscotch, and caramel,and later a peanut butter flavor was introduced.
Oh, Reese's Peanut Butter Aids.Yeah, I give those out every
Halloween. But to say, Isee, you know, it was first

(01:10:21):
called Candy Aids Reducing Plan Vitamin andMineral candy. Wow. Man, yeah,
I can't. I can't imagine.Besides, Conan may have actually given
this out on Halloween, you knowwhat I mean, Like I got to
run to the store. Yeah,yeah, listen, let me help you

(01:10:41):
out here, dude. Initially,sales were not negatively affected. In a
September nineteen eighty five interview, thepresident of the company that manufactured it stated
that sales had increased as a resultof this connection. Well they no,
press is bad press now now.In early in nineteen eighty six, another

(01:11:02):
executive of the manufacturer was quoted theproduct has been around for forty five years.
Let the disease change its name,you know what, I agree.
That's why I was going to bringup Corona. Why didn't we have to
call the coronavirus was named after atasty, delicious beer. We don't need
what, no, anything else that'sout there nowadays, if it's something that

(01:11:24):
we are like super into. Idon't want to have a disease called Swedish
meatballs. I just want Oh couldyou imagine what? What do you have?
Swedish meatballs would look like? Yikes? Oh yeah, just some mister,
I have some bad news for you. Yes, you have a rampant
case of Swedish meatballs. Oh mygod, God, now I have to

(01:11:46):
go to Ikea. Yeah, ohneed to eat. And actually there's more.
We also found lingonberries. No,but the good news. The good
news is is that if you ifyou take AIDS, you can get Yes,

(01:12:11):
you eat some chocolate film all thatI know we have for time constraints.
We it's time to eighty six ofthe podcast. But before we go,
Rudy, we have one quick segmentand it's called human Yelp Reviews.
That's where you wrote, Rudy Pavic. You get to review the podcast like
a Yelp review. You can usea five star metric or as many stars
as you like. You can eitherreview the podcast as a whole, or

(01:12:34):
you can review myself and Joe youknow ear Hole Boy one and two and
uh whatever, you want to start? Okay, do I get some music?
No, this is the one.This is the one that we don't
have. There's no production value tothis one. You just gotta go ahead
and do it. Well. It'sbecause it's because Devin Cook refuses to do

(01:12:56):
a fifth song for us. Oh, I gotcha? Okay, all right,
I'll start off at first, myhusband and I were a little apprehensive
about going on to the podcast withboth Matt and Joe, as Matt has
many times tried to lure me backto his hotel with aids chocolates and Joe
how many times? How many timescan that guy drink non alcoholic beer where

(01:13:19):
we go? You've been replacing thisstuff, haven't you, And you're definitely
filling it with Miller liked. Ican smell it on your breath. Joe,
just a syringe. I've just beensyringing through the bottle cap. You've
been siphoning it out of there likea gas tank. No, I will
say this, how about this.I am super impressed with the production value
of it. I'm super impressed thatyou guys work so well together. And

(01:13:43):
I'm not saying that as a pejorative, I definitely mean it. I think
it's great. I think it's funnythat Matt is just so type a personality.
Joe is so tight b I thinkyou guys work very well together.
I like the fact that Matt getsfrustrated when he gets talked over by Joe,
but it's part of Joe's carrot.I love all that. So yeah,
the episodes into this, we know, we know, we know that.

(01:14:05):
I know that, I know theNew Jersey Devil, I dance with
all those Yeah, yeah, no, no, it's it's it's great.
I wish more comics in our scenewould, uh you know, would take
it serious and try to do agood a good put out a good product.
And obviously you guys are working hardto do that. So yeah,

(01:14:25):
keep doing it. Absolutely. Thanks. If you had to give us a
star review, uh, let meask you before I give a star review,
has anybody given you a one?Yes? Who? Yeah, we've
had two. Oh god, ithave to go back because I forget it
because we've done that. We've beendoing this for over four years now,
and marijuana affects the memories, sowe're gonna have to figure it out.

(01:14:54):
We only got one one star review, I think it was one, and
then we had a couple like twothree star reviews and they were just trying
to be funny. One the oneone star review we got also, was
there someone just taking a piss?Yeah, I was gonna say, is
it somebody that is was trying tobe funny or was it like generally like
they left me going, I willnever do this podcast. No, no,

(01:15:14):
we just don't put those episodes out. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're throwing our yell reviews. Rudy, Come on, how do you
think yeah, manufactured? Yeah,uh no. You know, I'm a
big believer. And you know,I had an old art teacher of mine
who would never give out a onebecause he was like, even though for
how good it is, that youcould still be better, you can still
figure out. She would only givelike a ninety five was like the best.

(01:15:35):
So when I do yelp, Ialways give four if it's because five
is yeah, So it's always forimprove There's always room to improve on everything,
regardless of what it is. SoI always say, man, like
a like just towards the top.Yeah, I do that with everything.
Like my daughter too, she's like, what do you think. I was
like, it's good, you canget better, you know, like,
I'm not gonna bullshit you. Youknow I've seen doobies that have been rolled

(01:15:58):
a little better. Okay, youknow that we're really were excited for Daughter
Daddy Daughter Day. Yeah, loosehands raw, No one uses raw anymore.
Come on, we gott CD rollingpapers all right, Rudy before we
get there, dude, I justhave to say, as the R and

(01:16:18):
D of the show, Uh likeAIDS wasn't invented in nineteen thirty seven.
Wow, Just so that we leavetoday and you have a fact to like,
hey babe, how is your day? And like you're like, you'll
never You'll never guess AIDS was inventednineteen thirty seven. Yeah, Yeah,

(01:16:39):
there is there a synonym for deficiencybecause that was autoimmune deficiency syndrome. Yes,
is there a synonym for deficiency thatwe could have used for the d
and just like called it apes.Why why did we have to Why does
AIDS have to get rid of itsname? I agree? Why does that
that that CEO was right, havethe disease change its name. They've always
been AIDS. They were there forI like to think of it like the

(01:17:01):
difference between under Pressure by Queen andDavid Bowie and Vanilla ICE's Ice Ice Baby,
because you know, it's difference ofjust one little thing, but you
know what it's it's so much differentbecause mine is like Dan and and and
then, but there's like mine's likethere's like no, no, no yeah.
On radio interview, I took itto his grave. He was He

(01:17:28):
killed himself arguing that AIDS shouldn't becalled AIDS and that's what I should still
be the CEO of age. Ironicallyhe died of AIDS. Though it's really
weird. It's the hope he hewas actually an intervenience drug user. Anyway,
Rudy, how do people follow you? Uh? Find me Instagram at

(01:17:49):
Rudy Underscore Pott's Rudy Poppitchcomedy dot com. I'm going to be recording my first
album, Comedy Corner Underground, thatSeptember thirteenth, fourteenth to Contron sale right
now. You can get them offthe website. Got a bunch of dates
coming up. I am going tobe on the road with Michael Yo this
weekend in Dallas and then after thatI come back. I'm doing a week

(01:18:10):
at House of comedy here in Minneapolis, and then after Man, I'm kind
of all over the place, Detroit, Tacoma, Naples, Florida, I
got Wilmington, North Carolina, Albanycoming from that Johnny Cash song. Yeah
yeah, I've been everywhere, man, I've been everywhere. Yeah. So
yeah. But to check out thewebsite, I got as many dates up

(01:18:31):
there as I possibly can. Andyeah, that big one coming up in
September on the thirteenth and fourteenth,that would be a big one. So
looking forward to that. So thankyou guys very much. Really appreciate you
having me on, man, reallydo Yeah, you're replied Joe, how
do people follow you? You couldgo to www dot Peak Highness dot com.
That's Peak Highness. How high canyou fly? Also, you can

(01:18:54):
check out my wife and I's podcastwhere over Here Now It's www dot where
over here Now dot com. Allcomedy dates are on and yeah, fuggin
happy fucking daughter, Daddy Doobie Day. For me, I'm at dohim on

(01:19:15):
Facebook and Instagram. I am atChubby Waiter on x because again, I
love watching a tire fire. Asfor me, some things I want to
point out I'm going to be performingat Convergence in Minneapolis this coming July fifth,
so for all of you comic confolk, you can come out see
me. I'm gonna be on MissShannon show there. I'm helping produce that

(01:19:41):
as well. It's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be the two of us
and Will Spotted Bear. I wasalso going to be on the show,
So that's that's a delight. Beyondthat, I'm at Camp Bar for in
the third weekend in July. I'mgoing to be doing my first feature week
there weekend there, so I'm prettyexcited about that. Cool. I got
some things, I got some otherirons in the fire, and for the

(01:20:01):
two things, I want to otherthings I want to point out. Every
week at the basement of the RedCarpet Nightclub in Saint Cloud, Minnesota,
I host the Keller Comedy Open Mic. The doors open at eight, the
show starts around nine ish. Thirtytwo ounce beer pitchers for only six dollars.
You can see comics who are justcutting their teeth and comics who you
probably are wearing fucking ventures. Idon't know. It's a whole mixed bag.

(01:20:24):
It's always fun. Come on out. We have to cut their food
up really tiny or yeah you saythat, but yes, and then I
also want to point all attention tothe Beaver Island Comedy Series aka Damn Fine
Comedy. We have three dates thissummer and then coming up this fall.

(01:20:45):
We're going to be back every Saturdayat Beaver Island Brewing Company. Dates for
the summer is it's gonna be thelast Saturday in each month. We're just
doing a one monthly show because basicsummer in Minnesota, especially in places like
Saint Cloud. They're in the area, so come on out. It's gonna
be great. We got some cooland amazing comedians coming up this fall,

(01:21:06):
so uh check that out and checkout the podcast. We're at Awful Service
Pod uh sorry, at off Servicepodcast at gmail dot com. You can
hit us up with your stories yourKaren of the Weeks, follow us on
socials, on Facebook, Instagram atOff of the Service Pod. Rudy,
you have been a delight. Thankyou so much for doing the show.

(01:21:27):
Thanks many thanks. I wish Ihad had more time, but duty does
call. I still have to payfor so yeah, you gotta roll up
a couple before you get out.Alright, guys, take care of guys.
Always, as always, make sureto get aids. Yeah, the
butterscotch ones are the best. Doneand done, and have a good night.

(01:21:53):
It's time to count till sweep themons and mastus spills, Say God
night, dispose up the trash andturn out the light. Tell me why
I try to sow damping. It'sEliza. I'll take my tips. My

(01:22:15):
services have earned me this. MaybeI will find a way out. For
now on count my tip and likethe door. This has been a tape

(01:22:45):
Deck Media production. Thank you forlistening.