Awful Service Number One Hundred and Seventy-Two- J.C. Lippold

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tape Deck Media, Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
This is another episode of the Awful Service podcast. This
is the podcast requires a soup coat and tie. We're
going fancy now, We're not gonna We're not gonna show
up with a with a cassio cat or a keyboard dog.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
No, I uh it, but let me go get a tie.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, you got, you're you're you're far too underdressed.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Under dressed with the spot.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's me the matre d Matt Douimo with oh.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Man, I want to call you that all the time
from now on. Yell your next comedian. He is the
matre D.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Everybody d d uh so uh and I Joe Cocozello.
I am actually starting a cover band. It's a kiss
cover band.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
It's called French Kiss. It's a bunch of mimes doing
kiss covers.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Everyone's painted up like a fucking French mime. But we're
doing kiss covers. French Kiss, bitch my crop.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm I want to see them do Detroit Rock City.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
That wouldn't that be awesome?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, the promise you're not gonna hear them.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Because well, no, they're mimes that actually play music, Okay, Larios.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
They're miming them that they're they're dressed. In my mind,
it was mimes that were dressed like kiss and they're
just they're just acting out kiss concerts.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Hey, they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
The amps are and plugged in like it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's just a I'm just sticking its tongue out.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Dude. What was Jessica Simpson's like sister on s n.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
L Oh No, no, I'm saying no music at all.
You're no music, a true mime act. It's just them
doing and let's get this. We're doing a very this
is a very musical episode because our our guests today
is fresh. They wouldn't even fresh Kiss. They would just
have a sign that calls them French.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's just an Eiffel tower and the fucking lips.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
The iron Kiss is the Eiffel Tower.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
The rebellious mimes.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
The rebellious that that that that rebellious voice on the
podcast is our guests today. We have musician and general
saint of the human being J C. Lippold on the podcast.
Welcome j C.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
How are y'all doing?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Musician, performer, actor, and general saint of a human being.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's a saint of a human being, puts up with
people like us and machannons. That makes them hardy.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Welcome to the club, brother, Yeah, it's honorary comedian.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Honorary comedian and honorary whatever room I get to be,
and I'm always grateful to be there.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Sure, what is your opinion on French Kiss?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
No?

Speaker 6 (03:17):
I like the idea of minds who don't mind, because
all of a sudden people are showing up for a
concerts and all of a.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Sudden they start making music.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
You're like, well, damn it, I thought they were going
to be mine in, but nope, you're plugs back in.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Let's go French.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
That's a great way.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And that's picturing them not playing any music. They still
have the guitars, they still have their their and they're
and in my mind they're they're still wearing like the
mime shirts. But like it's the the their face paint,
their mind face paint is the the kiss face paint.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's pretty good close playing the fake guitar guitar.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's a guitar, but they're mining.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
They're mining playing the guitar. No music. That's that's what
your head is.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
That's where my mind went.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
And then the music as kiss and they're French people
dressed as mimes, so it sounds frenchy.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, it's it's Frenchish.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
It's Frenchish.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
They don't have that.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
They're just not a phrase. JC Fish it's got it's
as you would like to look and rule the knights.
I would love to. Yeah, it's a smoking venue. This
is a smoking venue.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Tonight emails Awful service podcast at gmail.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Dott you tell us what you get your French Kiss tickets.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I want to. I want our audience to let us
know what they think that you say French kiss and
there's a bunch of mimes. Do you think that they're
just dressed like mimes or are they miming playing kiss? Okay,
we need to know. We're doing We're doing a listener
poll here.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Listen, this is a debate, jaz Our.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Tens of listeners are going to that chime in with
your opinion.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
We come up with some great ideas on this show.
This show is like it's we couldna take anything. We
could take one thing from it.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's it's shark tank.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, shark tank for band names and band concepts.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well not just that, oh no, no, we have million
dollar ideas that are more business. Right. I like to
call it shark tank, but that's just me, uh, just
because half the stuff that Joe and I say are shitty.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And I think Joe is frozen.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
You never know what's gonna come out. And Joe is
either holding himself very still or is frozen.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yet he's doing the mind challenge right now. He's killing it.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
Spart's gating edited out. This part's gating edited it out.
Are we gonna hear it in the normal episode? No,
this part is edited out?

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, okay. To french Kiss, french Kiss, french Kiss would
have to be non music making mimes, because that's what
the whole thing is.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
You see it now, like do you see it? Like
they're still wearing like the stripe, like the mind like shirts,
but then the faces are like, you know, give the
Peter Chris, the the Gene Simmons and uh the Starman
and then I forget the other guy because I honestly
I kiss was before my time. And also I never
even and I never went to that whole like retro

(06:32):
thing of like I liked classic rock bands, I never
got into the kiss shit.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
I'm like, this is welcome back to the Awful Service
Podcast it's just like it's like the original members of
French Kiss remembers who they are or anybody.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
He's better bringing it back than we are psychoscus, I
can't hear you.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Here we are?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I still there, still don't I still don't hear that.
I still don't hear I think it's just there.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
There like how many yes is? But how many yeahs
did they give? Like so every song the.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Even better, even better. They don't have instruments, but they
act out via mime the lyrics to the songs.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Jesus Kiss in France, there's so many different iterations of
the potentialness of French Kiss.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's French kisses. It's just uh, it's what's the name
of that actor, that famous French actor that he's been
in everything got he's got the big nose and he's
got like the bowl cut like hair. Now now I'm
derailing the podcast usually.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
And I as R and D can't even do anything.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
I don't even know I I I don't want to
google French actor big nose because that's not gonna narrow
it down.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Like American.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I was thinking of Gerard. You all know who that is,
Not like that dude, that's a big nose.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
He does have a big nose. It's from all of
the French drinking.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
He did well. If I would have said genre no,
that would have been a little weird, Like they're like,
wait the professional.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh dude, I love that movie.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oh yeah, that that movie is wild though it's and
I haven't.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Seen him in anything. He's he should be like the
fucking the French. Yes, he's the French. Amason's French.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
French taken.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Ah, I have a particulars.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Actually that actually if they did that with his like
a menacing French act, that would almost make it even
more menacing than just Liam Neeson. English have a picular
and then he kills them with the I.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Just keep imagining this is like a really bad rendition
little Mermaid, and we're all just a little I cannot
help it. Every time Joe talks, Oh.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
You're talking about because he does his French, it does
sound like Sebastian. I'll give it. I'll give you that.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I am straight. That's how I learned my French accent.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
He's just trying to do like he's just trying to sing,
kiss the girls, kiss the girl.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
We we's the girls.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Full circle French kiss the girls.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
The girls.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, Jason, on this podcast, we don't just discuss nice
clubs where we can uh wear wear suits or or
French kissing or french kiss or whatever iteration that is,
and and we don't do any of that. We don't
do that. This is the Awful Service Podcast, Jasey. This
is the podcast we talk about different customer service jobs
and the stories there within. The very first segment on

(09:43):
the podcast is one that we lovingly refer to as
the resume show?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
What's your rethme? Why should we hurt? Have you ever
had a job?

Speaker 8 (09:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
You up and tell us all about yourself and to
place as talk up?

Speaker 9 (10:00):
I left all my dogs?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Show what's your resume?

Speaker 8 (10:09):
And you know what?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Just a side note, ri I p to set the
voice of Sebastian Samuel E. Wright is we we don't
get original Sebastian anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Do you think he do you think it was French face?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
It was he got he got French COVID, dude, that is.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's probably from French kissing.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's COVID. It wasn't from smoking. It wasn't it not
from it is not real smoking cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Well, anyway, jac this is the resume section. We told
you that we left that back in the opening. Joe,
this is the resume section, Chase. This is the part
of the podcast where you get to kind of talk
about your jobs and the stories and with everyone. You
want to start with.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
Yeah, So I grew up in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, small
first ring suburb and.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Three legal age.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
I had a short time summer job helping out in
the kitchen at House of Huey's Chinese restaurant.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
So underage, very authentic, very authentic house. And it's one
of my two childhood restaurants that are still open.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
So we could we could dine at House of Huey's.
Is Huey's still around.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yep, Jimmy Huey is still there.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Jimmy's dad has passed away, but Jimmy, Jimmy's wife, and
Jimmy's two kids still work at House of Huey's.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Okay, so what is the what is the signature dish? Yeah?
So do they have the Huey surprise?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
It has to be pea king duck.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
They do got the peaking duck. But I have to
tell you there was this turtle that was tracked to
think under a grate that I always felt very bad for.
And then one day it wasn't there anymore. So I
don't know if the peaking duck what have I know?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Back the truck up JC. Yes, so there was a grate,
there was a great Where was the great located over
the sink? So it was a turtle there was over
the sink and it was stuck in this grate. It
was even know how the turtle got stuck, you know?

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Okay, so guys like I'm forty three, so this was
thirty years ago. There's a little bit of that folklore
of like did I make this up?

Speaker 6 (12:31):
I remember the turtle was in the sink and it
was not getting out, and then one day it wasn't
there anymore.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
So back in my signature turtle, did somebody bring a
turtle in? Was there like a like did we have
a tank.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Turtles in it?

Speaker 6 (12:47):
No, there was no fancy tank in the lobby with
like lobsters and turtles. It was just this lonely turtle
sitting in the sink. But it made me affirm that
my favorite dishler was always can Eke Foo Young the
pork fried rice, because there's no way that the chicken
and the pork are tnal.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
I never eat anything else there because of that.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
This is this is one I meant by That's why
the peaking duck.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I did it.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
I did just like my favorite jokes with the ones
that require the photo.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Now I get it. Yeah, that's that is the Housey Huey.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
I love whoever did that?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
R I p whoever did Baby Huey's character like the
boys of Baby Huey because like holdly, I.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Reference Huey's Huey's so literally. Jimmy was like, see, do
you want to come and work at the restaurant in
the summer. I'm like, yeah, it sounds great. Of course
I thought I was going to be getting paid, but
I was paid and food, which was lovely. But you know,
it's one of those jobs when you're young. It's it's

(13:52):
charming to not get paid for work. But said it was.
It was a short lived employment, but I still love
my Housey Hueyze to this.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
So you're you're getting paid by by them with meals.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
They started a buffet that summer, so I got free yes,
which loaded up.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, you're you're definitely proving that you are actually a
stand up comic. You're just working for food sometimes how
many how many times are the meal gigs? Joe, you
get a free meal?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Good?

Speaker 4 (14:23):
There are gigs when like they say, they give you
a free meal, and then there's like a little clobble
at like when it comes built time, it's like it's
actually a half off meal.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's like, well, if you would have told me that,
I would have gotten Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
What was what was it? What was some of the
stuff on the on the on the buffet. Was it
like your your typical Chinese buffet or did it kind
of did have some variants.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
You know, Brooklyn Center is a humble city, so like
in in the day and age right now where we
have three hundred items buffets.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
You know, in the Chin world, this was not that.
This was your here's your here's your twelve night.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Of maffe They got verse and then all of a sudden,
it was a little bit of fried rice, was a
little bit of chicken with some kind of sauce. I
normally went the sweet and sour route because I'm a
white guy from Brooklyn Center.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Was it the deep Was it the deep fried where
it's basically a chicken nugget? And then he put the
sauce on. Okay, yep, yep, I know that one. I'm
from brainerd that we had the same buffet straight up.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
So but again that like that buffet kept one of
our humble Brooklyn Center businesses alive and well and it's
still kicking today.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
So the buffet is gone, but the restaurant lives.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's good that. You know what we're we're actually pretty
anti buffet, dude.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I would I would love to love buffets like we just.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You know, we know how the sausage is made in
this case, how the cheap buffet mood food is made.
Plus the sneeze guard.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's the sneeze guards.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
That is my one percent problem with the buffet right
now is the sneeze guard. That's why again we came
up with this on the podcast. The robot the Japanese
uh sushi bar that has like the oh yeah, the
conveyor belt like it's it's doing that with buffets or

(16:11):
like having like a little robot deliver your buffet food
so you're not touching.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
It's keeping the people away from the food that I
want to consume. It's the key is.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
That's why there are other all you can eat places
where they bring you a plate, and then you eat
that plate, and then you can order something else or
the same thing, and they'll bring you another plate. I'm
good with that. It's it's just the fact that, like
you see some kid sticking his finger in the you know,
the sweet and sour sauce and then putting in his
mouth and then putting his finger back in the sauce,
just to be sure, you know, but you know enough

(16:47):
about what I saw JC do as a child.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Sorry, it was right there. It was right there. So
you're saying it was so it was white people, Chinese
food got.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
It, Yep, very much. But but at the end of
the day, you know, it was one of those jobs
where I felt like I was part of the Huey family.

Speaker 8 (17:07):
Right.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
They were right down the block from where I grew.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Up, and you know, Jimmy and the family very much
took me in, which, uh, you know, getting to have
that job before I could legally have a job.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
Important.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Can I just can I just say one of the
things a little bit more kudos to he he put
he flipped the paradigm. He used underage American labor to
do work. That's you know, that's isn't it.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
No, I've worked at ethnic restaurants before.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
It is the most awesome thing to be in the
at the restaurant. It's it's an awesome The script is flipped.
You feel you've lived, you walked a mile in in
in ethnic shoes, like you now know.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Like it's like you now know how it feels.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
On the other side, it's still Nikes. But it came
from that country. They got it. They got him a
good they got them at a good price.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
So we remade in the same factory, but just at night. Yeah,
I missed those days. I missed those days.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
It worked. You worked. How long did you do that for?
You just said a couple of months of just.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
The ye it was.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
It was.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
It was a summer job in my pre teen early
teen years before I went a few more blocks down
the road to my first paying legal job at the
Brooklyn Center Community Center, which uh which kept me around
for a long time with many different positions. But nothing
teaches you about the world like working in community center pools,
community center concession stands, and the center.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Rental groups who are coming in to take over the
building for for six weeks.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do a lockdown tonight. Yeah.
Some church group played hold on.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
No no, no, it's not called lockdowns. They're called lock ins.
You had a that you have a that was COVID
moment you had.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
No no, no, that's no. When I was a kid,
they called it a lockdown.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
It was we called them lockdown.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
No because when we're in the community center, but they
still handcuffed us to a bed.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yes, it's like, is there a scared straight after brum Like, no,
you're right, it was called the lock in, but we're
doing a lockdown everybody.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah, as it starts out as the lock in, you
just hope that by the end of the night and
doesn't turn into a lockdown. But but one of seven nineteen.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, by the.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Way, can I say that there has never been enough
parental volunteers for a lock in never ever, ever in the.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
History Because you guys work there there, they just expect
you guys to kind of also be like the keep
the eyes on them.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
It's the at the end of the day, we're the
ones who are locking up the doors and have them
get everybody out.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
So yeah, we are we are the we are the I'm.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Gonna go mock before we leave, and you're like, get
out of the closet. What are you doing in there?
You're not supposed to be in that closet. Little kids
where protection?

Speaker 6 (20:02):
What I'll say in a later era, I was a
youth director and I would always make this joke, which
was not a good joke, but it at least made
me feel a little bit better that whenever we're gonna
take kids on a trip or so and so forth,
I would say, hey, eighty percent is a b So
if we come back with eighty percent of the kids,
we got a babe. So at the same time, working
at the community center, it kind of fits something. Yeah,

(20:23):
like lifeguarding, it's like eighty percent float. We're doing okay today, y'all.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Look, we had ten, we came back with eight. This
is a win.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't see what.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
It's sad day for those couple of parents, but this
is a w I'm considering this one a win.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well, we're just gonna give those parents some free officer
from the concession.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Why did you take these kids? Action Park in New Jersey.
It's the most dangerous. That would be a lockdown the history.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Of the world.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Joe, get this my first cross country youth group trip
with thirty six young people was to Brooklyn, New York with.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
And you only and you came back with thirty with
thirty U two.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
And then we actually came back. We actually came back
with all of them from that trip, which I don't
know how because.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
First time in first time in community centers, thirty we
came back. All right, what was.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
The what was the group again?

Speaker 6 (21:25):
So I was I was a youth director at a
Lutheran church. Okay, So it was a bunch of simple,
social justice minded young Lutherans going in to the big city.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
The idea was, let's take these thirty six children from
Brooklyn Center to fucking Brooklyn, same place.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
It's just the same, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
The especially because this was what what time what time
frame was this? This would have been two thousand and so,
just as the gentle vacation was happening.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Brooklyn Center is living up to its namesake and being
very Brooklyn Is. Uh, there was another shooting today in
Brooklyn Center. There's all the Brooklyn's, all the miniab the
Minnesota Brooklyn's are all linked together.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
There.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
They're two burroughs that people lock their car doors with
their elbow driving through the bugging. It's better now, but
like back in the day it was that was some
gangster ship. And and so taking these lovely children that
think they're living the hard, they got it hard, they're

(22:40):
living hard, and now you bring them to fucking hard.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Are we talking, Bedstein? Where were you in Brooklyn?

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I doubt you guys actually went to Brooklyn. You probably
went to like Manhattan. You were doing Manhattan thing, right.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
You guys.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
So we we we were staying in Prospect Park, Okay, yeah,
we were saying in the in the you know, again,
the beautile thing about young impressiable minds is when they
experience uh, different worlds, they go, oh, yeah, the world
is bigger than my backyard.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
And uh but again, you never know, you never know
what's going to happen.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
So the joke of eighty percent, uh, you know, kind
of alleviates the stress of going, well, we're really exposing
exposing young people to things that are either gonna it's
going to take them in one way or another.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
That's I wish you told the eighty percent to the parents.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
As you're as you're loading the bus. Hey, we always look.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Like you all said, you're goodbyes.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Right, it's just in case you're looking at the kids.
You have your affairs in order, right, yeah, you got
So you're working at the community center. What was so
you said? You did you you worked the concession stand?
You were doing? Did you a lifeguard?

Speaker 5 (23:53):
I was a life so so I'm a person who's
always been definitely in the water. So for your water.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
I'm like, I'm gonna become a lot because if I
can become a lifeguard, maybe I won't be fraid of
water anymore.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And you're like, he's standing on the edge of the
pool and he's trying to put one tone.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
No, I got kid, Okay, but but seriously, this was
my mindset. I'm like, I like to rescue the floaters.
You have to rescue the sinkers. And I was good
at sinking. This is how I got myself through lifeguard train.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
You just save me. That's to save a bunch of me.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's such a that is such a phrase. If you're
not a sinker, you're a floater.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah, it's a different grower or shower. It's the swimming
version of growing and showing.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
It's a cold pool. Don't judge me. It's a really
cold pool.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Pools actually warm.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
So Joe, yes, I love this.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Did you have to?

Speaker 4 (24:58):
I'm scared of im aired of swimming, so I'm gonna
And you're a kid still, you're like a teen, so
this is a great that's an awesome thing because most
kids are like dump scare water, not doing any water jobs.
Like it's like I don't even want to serve water
at culvers, Like I'm not doing any water jobs at all.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Mop a thing. Don't you know? I'm scared waters of
my trigger.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
That's more he's a he's a.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Trigger.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah. So see, did you actually so you got over
your fear of swimming by being a lifeguard?

Speaker 6 (25:35):
I did, And I was a lifeguard until you know, Matt,
your question of did I ever have to save anybody?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That's how we found the.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Twenty percent rule.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
But no, So so I was a very diligent lifeguard
because I lived with a great anxiety around water. So
when I was on I watched the water. There was
one time I was on my break in the office
and there was an active rescue in the deep Bend.
So I wasn't the lifeguard that was currently on duty.
There's always four lifeguards on. I was the one who
was on break ship.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Please tell me, like it's you.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
You like dropped your fucking lunch and you just ran out.
And it was like the slow motion intro to Baywatch, like.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
In the darkness.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
It was.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
It was very much my Baywatch moment.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Like the guards, the guards, the guard who was on
the water slide saw the saw, the active rescue blew
the whistle.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
We all went run in. Kid was wonderful, safe and fine.
Ambulance was called.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
But that was my last That was my last shift
because all of a sudden, I realized it's like my
anxiety when I wasn't watching the water but still having
to then respond if someone went in. I'm like, nope,
I can't deal with the stress. So I went right
back up to the concession stand and went back to making.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
My my chicken. Like I like to take comfortable poops
at work, and I can't do that as a lifeguard
because I'm like on and like, I'm just is.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
That a whistle? Is that a whistle?

Speaker 5 (26:57):
And talking about but talking about comfortable.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Fuddling with your fucking swim trunks on your ankles.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
That's the other half of life guarding, right, Everybody who
takes the comfortable poop in the pool. So it's it's
like having to be able to stress of rescuing people
but then also having to scoop up the comfortable poops
that are.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Float melted Snickers bars.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
I'm just like, nope, I'm done with my life guarding chapter.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Now you're like, I can't scoop any more baby roots
out of the look.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I could deal with the sinkers, but I can't deal
with the floats.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I'm always curious myself. There you got so when you
were when you were working that what were they solid
the fucking concession stand at at this community center in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Well, there was a kid that was buying snickers, melting
them and then putting them in the pool.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Except trouble maker.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
That trouble maker. So our are our high end items.
We had a I'm a hot Dog pot where we
boiled hot dogs, but then also we had the full
array of microwaveable sandwiches like the chalk Wagon, the chicken
and Swiss, the cheeseburger.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
So you guys are pretty much serving gas.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Station food, straight up gas station.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Gas station food served by sixteen year olds.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's a twist and you're going to be in a
place that smells like chlorine.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
But the guy that made me the sandwich will save
you twenty seven minutes from now.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
It's when you're in the pool. It's like it's just like, hey,
I told you to wait thirty the chuck wagon.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
The amount, the amount of the amount of diligent children
who would eat. And then they would start there, like
they would look at the clock and they're like, thirty
minutes from now, that's when we can go back in
the water, and they would sit, they would playpool, they
would go ahead to the ping pong table.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Because because it's scared a generation of children, this is
our don't get in the van.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, that was the millennial and like it.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Don't get in the van, wait thirty minute this until
you're dying after and dial one eight hundred collect yea is.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Almost that things are.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Still in our minds, Like you just started saying those things,
and I started like singing called four eight eight eight
eighty eight ever ate like those chikeys and those warnings
just stuck in your heads forever and ever.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh yeah, empire, Empire rugs are still in my head
all the time.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
The empire Carbet is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Going back to the waiting thirty minutes. Do you know
science has actually said, yeah, it's bullshit.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, what was it? By the lunch, Big lunch, some singer.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
The swinkers, swinkers, winkers, Ah, put your keys in the
fish bowl. Were swinkers, like, yeah, we're doing we're doing
ocean theme swinging.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
That's actually Joe dresses like a sepassion. The crab and
tries at the bottom of this pool were swinkers. You
get to the bottom of the pool and.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
You're one of those bottom Bring bring the French accent back, brother,
bring the French accent.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Orgy the pool.

Speaker 10 (30:14):
The water is warm because we are all peeing in it.
Everyone pieces in the pool. You save yourself. That's that's
fresh life. God, Joe, that's it.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's a German orgy, germanoid.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
This is the pool.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
So you're you're working at the community center, you're learning
the life skills. You get sent to Brooklyn, which that's
a whole other funny thing. Is there any stories from
that time other than the saving the child's life thing
that comes to mind from from those years?

Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, you know, I mean so, I mean this is
probably suburban life, life, one on one for everybody. It's
like you think, where's where's the place where you go
on your board, like like where's the place where you
go and you got nothing to do?

Speaker 5 (30:59):
And that was the community center.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
But for me from chalk and softball fields to all
the stuff in the community center and then I became
the building supervisor. Until you know, throughout being in college
and you learn a lot about people and and where
they go and they don't got something to do, which
sets up lots of call to the cops, lots of
lots of situations where you go, no one could make
this stuff up. But at the same time, it also

(31:24):
just shows you how how real life is for people
in the moments that they're living in. So like like
there's there's no building when people go, oh JC, you
do all this stuff and I go and I think
the Brooklyn Center Community Center for it because it teaches
you every single thing.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
When you see people in a.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Space like that, Yeah, and it's it's a tough.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
It's tough to see people at their not best because
you want to you want to step in and help
and it's a but when you are the the building
manager at the at the Brooklyn Center Community Center. You
can't help everybody. This is it's turning into a human
rescue like it's.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
You don't want to call the cops, but you had
to call the cops because this was a cop call scenario.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Because it's the line between empathy sympathy and there's be
there's going to be a medical or or or a
polease emergency if we don't do something right now. Yes,
it's it's it's. It's it's daycare for people from age
five to eighty five.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yes, yeah, Oh, you've got the continuing education and stuff
there as well for like for seniors and shit, and
for like older people.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Literally, it was.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
It was the build I mean again in Brooklyn Center
has has a very large active community center because it's
also First Ring Minneapolis, so you have you have a
lot of people looking at the value of social service,
you know. So I mean literally all people all day long.
And then of course rental groups who are coming in
bringing in every single edge.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
All the thing.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I just point a clarification for our Red state listeners. Oh,
we take care of our people in our fucking state.
Think about it. Sometimes it's really nice that a fun thing.
It's it's nice, you know, you know the thing that
they say that they do but they don't really do
in your fucking state. Yeah that's the Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah yeah, but don't come to Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
No, please. Mississippi is great, it really is. It's Alabama,
really hot in the summer. You don't wanna, you don't wanna.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Joe lives here, Mosquitoes the size of softballs. It's kinda
fucked up thing.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, we'll come to you. Don't come, He'll come to you.
So damn yeah, that's you took that down a road.
And all of a sudden, I'm getting all like I'm
just I'm imagining everything from like AA meetings to Boy Scouts.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
And and then you have rental groups of people who
you know, uh, you know, communities of people and ethnicities
of people who don't have who don't have a church
or community building. So all of a sudden, like and
becomes theirs, And all of a sudden, you smell food
that you've never smelt before, and groups that are going,
we're gonna say till three o'clock in the morning because
we're still partying, and you're going, actually your contract ended

(34:09):
at one, but I actually kind of love what you're doing,
so I'll just keep these doors open for you.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Causing trouble. They're just trying to They're just trying to
feed you something on a.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Data they they also paid you in food.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
YEA cool. You know what, I haven't had nog before,
but I'm all about it. Socks nog socks. So that's
what you know I've had. I've had nog before, but
that's only around Christmas time.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Dude, I've got nog hard, some strong ass noog in
the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
That's why you don't want to come here, this strong
nog no So that I guess, yeah, that's just that
that it hits me like actually, like because I'm you're
talking about flushing back memories like oh oh man, my
like just ocean of just ship thinking about it, like
for me because I went to the one in Brainerd

(35:05):
because I'm the town, like the closest city you know,
that was our you know for us, So for like
things like that, and like like yeah again the lock ins,
the lockdowns because I was a child, but you know
what I mean, like those so those those are so
important and especially like and you're coming from it as
a compassionate because like You could have been like.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
What's your prompting scared straight? No under the sea, No, no, no,
try not to be in prison.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's actually actually by the smell of the food that's
going in here, I'm assuming Arabian nights.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
You can't have horses in the Brooklyn Center Community Center.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
They're camels. Actually we have rules. No, but you could
have You could have been like a cartoonishly villainous, like
community center manager, like.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
No, and like you.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Mustady, meeting is over. I just you could totally have
been that. You could have been like every nineties villain,
like my dad is going to tear this down and
make it a car dealership.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
You know, I'm just a picture in JC tying everywhere. Actually,
I don't have a question.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
How many times did the teens have to do a
dance party to help save it?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (36:25):
No, there's no dancing in Brooklyn Center dancing? He then
know that's anything on Brooklyn I would love that those.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Were eighties Those were eighties movies. Do you not know
that that was the point of breaking to Electric Boogloo
was that they were going to tear down the community
center by the rich, snobby dad because he's rich. My
Dad's gonna own the community. It was ski it was
a ski mountain, it was and then they had have
a dance party to save the community. It was just

(36:55):
that was just so much of those ship There were
so many different tropes of that, so that that's why
I just had to ask, because as someone who ran
a community center, I assume all of your funding is
from teenagers.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
You but you're actually right right, Like the Brooklyn Center
Community Center was so important because.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
We needed that space to do the things right.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
Like like if you go further out in the suburbs,
where I can go to the country club, I can
go to the you know, the the fitness club, whe
I could go to my other activity, it's.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Like like that was the place that we all went
to do all of the things. So to the point,
you know, I think there was never the oh, are
they're going to close the community center now? Because community
support and engagement was was all that all that.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
We firm that that filler cops and all of the
cities around like it's all the hey, do you want
to put on a dance party to save the community center?

Speaker 3 (37:52):
That doesn't say it like it's something I kind of
want to like like let's forty.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I will put on a a sock hop to save
a community that doesn't need to say everybody dresses like
they did when they were kids.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh, there would be so many jincos.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Oh god, oh god, our generation is so dumb.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, we were so dumb. So high waisted jeans with
baby doll tops.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I dig eige wasted jeans, Like, you look.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Great in them, Joe, you look great. Your ass has
never looked bad.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
No, But like that, going back to Jason, we're just
completely diverting that this went on off the rails a while,
like I think it started with French Kiss.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Sorry that I come up with somebody good ideas my
off time.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
You know, some people macromate, Joe, just no third spaces
are insane. That's the thing that we're talking to discussing
in this country and how more and more of them
are going away, Like those are important. I I did
a show this year for Beaver with beaverund Brewing comp
Any shows every Saturday, and I produced my Matt Douma.

(39:03):
Uh every but I did. We did one where we
did a fundraiser for a place it's going to be
a nonprofit coffee shop and it's going to be an
eight in all ages venue. So like kids kept a
place to be to play their their shitty bands and
watch their friends play music and stuff like that, and
like that is like to me, I went to spaces

(39:24):
like that when I was a kid. Those were so
important to me.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
My ska band played all those spaces.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Shout out to the Eclectic Cafe Rest in Peace, Brainerd, Minnesota,
Like that was my place. We'd play hacky sack outside
and then we'd go watch our friends shitty band and
we drink Italians overpriced Italian SODA's, Like that's what we did.
So yeah, again, flood of memories. When you talk about
this is like I'm gonna i'meel like I'm about to cry,
Like I mean for real, this is like these that's

(39:51):
so important. And then that's something that in the sorry,
I'm gonna get my soapbox in like a minute.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Like we have to go save the Could we put
a dance party on us to the Eclectic Cafe.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
No, it's been it's been for decades too. Like I
think after I left brainer they're like, oh no, one's
buying the the keyweed strawberry Italian sodas at the Eclectic Cafe. Yeah,
those Jones sodas even worse French sodas because they were
cream popped on top.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Whoa for Realia, Yes, Like oh my gosh, Like okay,
now we're talking about memories flung back, Matt, you're on
your soapbox.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
My apologies.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
No, I was just trying to say that we as
a country really need to make sure these places still exist.
Third spaces for young people is going to do more
for like society than anything else.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Like the government entity's gonna run this, the almost non
existent Department of Education.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Again, what we're gonna do is Minnesotans, we're just gonna
get Tim Walls and we're gonna do a big just
a statewide dance party. Are we gonna?

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Are we gonna pull a Texas and we're gonna secede
and go to Canada. I'm a I would be so
great if like Minnesota was just like fuck it, we're Canada. Now,
We're we're uh lower Toronto. Get in from Iowa. You
need a fucking passport. It would be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
It would be hilarious for multiple reasons. So back to
the Community Center and everything, jac is there anything else
any other stories or lessons you you want to impart
to us and our listeners about your time.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
There no like like I'll like, I will say, and
this is this is a good post mortem. Like whenever
I go back home to Brooklyn Center, I still drive
past the Community Center and it's still the parking lot
is still full, and and they're still doing their things.
Now again it changes like we have to fight the fight.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
But you know, like you say, third spaces, whether we
support them or not, people are always going to find
uh the necessity for them and and and that's what
fills them up.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Do you you pop by? Just make sure nobody's drowning.
Mighty sets JC Set's going off.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
He goes, He goes. You know what I was hungry for.
I was hungry for a chuck wagon.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, I'll take a chuck wagon when I'm done saving
that kid. Some people stand, You're like singing, You're singing
the Baywatch team as.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
You're running slow mo. Everybody else is like, why is
he running in slow moos?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Ayes do this? He's dead already. So where did you
go after the Community Center.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
I'm gonna I'm gonna zoom forward a little bit to win.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
The Community Center, a thing that kind of put you
on this path.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
That you're on.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Is that like like because people always go jac like,
what do you do?

Speaker 6 (42:38):
You do all these different things, and I go, at
the end of the day, I always say, I'm a homemaker,
like Matt to your point, like third Spaces, I'm a
person who who cultivates space for for people to not
be at working, to not be at home. And I
guess it's not not moving too far forward because then
after high school, I was still working at the community center,
put myself through college, and that's when I was doing
my professional acting thing, which brought me to the wonderful

(43:02):
Oops Dinner Theater in North Saint Paul, Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Wait, Oops Dinner Theater.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Great name for dinner theater because if something goes wrong,
all you have to do is say, Oops.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I'm sorry, did you order the beef not the chicken?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I spill spilled.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Part of the show. It's just part of the show, and.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
We're interactive here.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
Both of both of those examples that you just shared
were very common occurrences at the Oops. The spill drink, Sorry,
we're out of your dinner.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
It's a chicken or an egg scenario.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Really, I mean, like, what did you expect to say
to Bennegans? This is oops, baby.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I want that on a T shirt. Joe, What did
you think this hurt? What do you think this is?

Speaker 5 (43:55):
This?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
This isn't Benans?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
And just like Benegan's Dinner Theater is now also out
of business and a big, a big, open open field.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Why did it fail? Right there? They actually know, we
do know how they failed.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Now I'm assuming that it was some sort of like, uh,
they wrong decibel point on the taxes and they just
went oops, I arrest and they're like.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, no, it was it was it was a salmonilla
broke breakout. Oops, we didn't cook the chicken loops.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
It was a pasteurized milk. Oops.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
It was probably a bit of all of that.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
You know.

Speaker 6 (44:34):
The they they put on some great productions in the
in the you know, early two thousands, there was a
big movement of Oly and Lina shows in the Twin Cities.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, placed.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
That was the original COVID Uh huh.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
I actually I think I feel like I had a
book around here somewhere.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Of course he does those. I'm from braiderd Minnesota. Like
that was currency where the only Lena Lifestyle ship and
people would buy shirts that were just the Only and
Lena t shirts, the Only and Leana thing, and that's
so yeah, that's the zeit guy's totally of course, Joe,
let you do one.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
All right? Oh jeez, this one's really long. It might
go over. I'm gonna do uh.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Oh oh.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Look, this is when the I r S called Only
and said they wanted to check over his records. He
went right down to the I r S office with
two boxes of his l p S.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Classic Only this. I gotta find like a Only and
Lean one.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
No, because that's what the rest of the podcast is.
Just one more.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
It's only Leana inquired, do you vaunted the urinal? No, Lena,
I just read the Star Tribune Boom Local Adal.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
That was amazing.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Now it's like, oh, I can't get the Star Tribune
and Lena I's not on the app.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
It's all pay it's a payball.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
So so what were you doing there? Were you the
you're acting there? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (46:27):
So so I I started I was I was Cats
in a couple of shows, but then I also ended
up being on the Waight staff because when I wasn't
when I wasn't on stage.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Of course, Hey here's what.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
We need runners we need like like, hey, you're not
in the actor too, you could bring fucking salads out,
go go go.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
But here's here's the fun thing about about you know,
I think the arts industry that that Oops taught me.
So I was in a show called The Cardigans, which
was you know, four guys singing four part harmony nineteen
fifty six these music.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
It was a great show, great cat.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
It wasn't a show based off that nineties song.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Miss you know.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
I assumed it was the original Kardashians wearing cardigans. It
was a reality show with Cardigan the Cardiganians.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Near to other French emergents, right, the Cardigans.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
So we were supposed to run for about sixty performances,
but then all of a sudden, their Ole and Lena
Idea came to life and Oly and Lena was getting
ready to open up and was selling out like mad,
so they stopped advertising our show.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
We ended up performing seventeen performances and then we take
of sixty seventeen.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
Out of sixty, they closed us down early because tickets
were intelling because they stopped advertising as well. This theater
was built in an old armory building where backstage was upstage,
and then downstage was where the kitchen was, or downstairs
is where the kitchen was. So for us to get
onto stage we had to go down into the lobby

(48:11):
out around the building, which so there was one time
because the four of us were in the show were
pretty upset by the time we saw that we were
slowly getting.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Getting upstaged by the Lias. So like, we have a
good show here.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
We had a great show at intermission. One performance, a
full house was one hundred and twenty people. We had
about thirty people in the audience, no reactivity, no energy
coming from the audience. So we walk off stage, go
outside to head head upstairs backstage, and I said some
choice words about the.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Audience while I was outside.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
Oh, because of course my microphone wouldn't still be on
for these thirty people to go No, my very distinct voice.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Do you remember what you said?

Speaker 8 (48:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah, there was something to the effect of these fuckers,
you tell me not on the culture.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
Cultures I was.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
I was, I was deflecting my animosity towards oops at
these thirty wonderful paying customers.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
So that was a really fun second act of singing.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
The best part of it, though, is your excuse was
right there.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Oops, oops, my.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Micro guys kind of happens at the dinner theater like
every once in the blue.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Not going to see this at chan Hassen.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yeah, it's yeah, they do that.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
But you know that's that's the reality of this beautiful
art industry. We're working where it's like if there's money
waiting for you in the next in the next production,
you're trying to keep your doors open.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Yes, you kill the Cardigans and you roll out the
red cars.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Do we want a fucking Minions musical? That's what's happening. Everybody.
Nobody's giving a ship about Shakespeare anymore. We're doings.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I want to know how many weeks they did of
how to Talk Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
The I mean that was if you.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Think about the how to Talk to Minnesota and only
and Lina was that for them? If you think about
the church Basement ladies, that was.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Good. There was so much theater happening in Minnesota. It
was you guys had the There was a triple Espresso
that was so hot, Tony and Tina's was raging.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
There was that there was that one uh what was
it like this Hunter party or it was like about
like a bunch of guys at the deer hunting site.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, I can't think the name of it,
but yeah, I mean again.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Love seeing performances like Broadway shows at the Chanhassen Dinner
Theater because it's like seeing Broadway, but not Broadway off
really really off Broadway.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
It's like it's Broadway. It's off Broadway. It's like really,
it's like seventeen states away.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
You know. Though, Joe had their version of Spider Man
Into the Dark was amazing.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Oh my god. And they killed less actors.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, they killed spot account of the actors.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Lift I would love to see.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I would love to see chan Hassen Dinner Theaters Spider
Man turned Off the Dark like that.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
I would fucking you definitely definitely better.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I have better seats than the Wayne's brothers for that
one too.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah oh yeah yeah, Oh my goodness. So what happened?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I do have to know?

Speaker 8 (51:40):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Did you get reamed for the microphone thing?

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Like?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Just some.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
This it it was it was the sign that the
show was already dead. Back on the audience was just
as checked out as they were beforehand.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
The show closed a week later, and this in the pit,
so when.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Somebody was doing something on stage whilst you were running
around and bitching, like running around the house.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Like it's not running around the house.

Speaker 6 (52:14):
It was intermission, so the stage was dead. They were
having like does everybody heard it? It was yeah, like everybody.
There was nothing else to listen to other than My
commentary about the audience.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
In that moment is that even like music playing, he's dang.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Dn pieces of ship, Like it's you know, i'd be
They're so stupid they didn't even get tickets to.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
But He's like it just goes to show you, like
like I was, I was the nice guy in the show,
like I was the I was the smiley one with
the bleach.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Blonde hair with a giant ski jump off the top
of my head.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
And if I'm the one who's who's cursing out the audience,
that shows you how good of a night that one.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah, it's like like, wow, that's a surprise. Didn't expect
the super nice one to be made.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I thought it was going to be the surly one
in the I.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Thought it was the evil guy. It's well, just tie
us to a bunch of train tracks. I guess, like
what an evil guy.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
The tenor is never the mean one, right now, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
It's honestly, it's usually the baritone is the.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I love I love theater stories. Theater stories are my life.
People's theater jobs are my favorite.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Right is how much longer did you work for Oops?

Speaker 3 (53:32):
So did you close Oops down?

Speaker 8 (53:33):
Was there?

Speaker 4 (53:34):
What was the last production at Oops where it was like,
please tell me? It was called Oops the musical? Yeah,
it was all about them shutting down because.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
After they had a couple of successful O Lina shows,
they did some uh improv karaoke musicals.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
That oh where could that? How could that go wrong? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (53:54):
I mean, and again it's just it was a little
bit of a business model fail and then they just
lost the you know again, as we know, keeping a
theater open takes takes a lot, and they just had
a couple.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Too many every theater. You're telling me it's away from
closing the doors. You're telling me that the musical Yes
and don't stop believing didn't work.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Oh, come get tickets to Yes at Oops.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I did it.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
It's probably it's a baby.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
But okay.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
As as a lifelong Britney fan like Britney Spears's musical
didn't even make it on Broadway very long. So if
Britney's Oops Musical can't make it Oops, Inner Theater surely can't.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Oh my.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Would have been the best moment.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Yeah, it's Oops and Oops. It's it's Oops squared, it's Oops.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Yes, it's Oops.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Although if they ever did try to re like reform
and do a new business, the name Oops.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
It has to be yes.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Again.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
And that's like you know it was, that's yeah. Well,
we're definitely not the original Oops, because as you can
see by our fluorescent sign back here, it's it's Oops.
I dated again.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
That that that implies that you did it to begin with. No, no, no, no, no, no,
we were just part of the original Oops.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
But yes.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
We're bringing it back.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
It's only in Lena Murder Mystery.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
You know what, Let's do Spider Man into the Dark
because I know at that point.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
Just like literally now on my new bucket list is
to do a Spider Man turn Off the Dark at
some like high school theater, like a high school I am.
I just like come in and I'm like, yeah, it's
like fuck this old guy that was doing Shakespeare, We're
doing Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
All right. Joe you know where you have to do that, right?

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Do I have to back to my old eye school.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
No, you got to go to the Brooklyn Center community.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Oh, yes, of course it's hey, I.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Know Lipole, all right. He told me this is a
good space for this.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
You know, the guy that keeps showing up and saving
people randomly.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
My bronze bust is sitting in the lobby.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Oh you know, mister, was the Bronze bus? Was it good?

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Because the last couple of Bronze busts that came out,
we're pretty shitty one. Yes, that was terrible, and then
there was allan iverson one that was like it was tiny.
It was like this big outside the stadium and they're like,
oh my god, it's like actual size.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
So so she's been an actor since.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Let's make one.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Let's do it. If we know any Bronze workers out there?

Speaker 3 (56:52):
No, have you are Bronze caster listeners? Take a screen
shot of JC.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
So you're you what that was the the beginning of
the end for you? There? Where did you? Where did
you go in terms of either work or acting after that?

Speaker 5 (57:10):
Yeah? So I've I've stayed in the storytelling space more
as an educator, you know, as as as these kind
of early formative years played, I realized that I'm not
the one who's who's meant to always be in the spotlight,
but if I can help people be in a spotlight
and in ways where they're going to bump in the
wall less times. So as theater.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
Director, as you know, as as kind of a community manager,
communication helper, but also I moved into the health and
wellness space a little bit as well. So I had
my whole era of being the being the yoga teacher,
the studio opener. But there was a time when I
folded towels overnight at Lifetime Fitness, because of course we

(57:53):
always need to just make a little bit extra money,
So why not go ahead and fold towels at two am?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
That's what that's what the owls get fulled, Chase, that's
not that's not seven a m behavior, Joe.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
That's what. This is how you make the donuts think.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
That's prime time?

Speaker 9 (58:15):
Oh hard to fold the towels. So is this a
lonely job? Were holding towels?

Speaker 5 (58:26):
It was a lonely job.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Was the only job that you had was literally show
up fold Towelsn't this was my this was.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
My uh, this.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Well, okay, this was not my only job, but I
was the no the lifetime.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Yeah, my my.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
My other responsibilities were make sure that the people who
are working out in the middle of the night got
you have towels?

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Yeah, tell me chegging in Towell checking in towel.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Hey, you know what, I was gonna fold this, but
if you're gonna use it, I'm not gonna like it's
gonna save me a pull.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
It's you just start waiting down the parking lot waving
people down with with uno.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Uh but no hot out of the dryer. These are
the best towels.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
You're you're John, You're John candying it from Blues Brothers
like down Tell tell four tells.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
The seven people in the massive Lifetime Fitness of Champlain,
Uh that we're working out at that time.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
They were always amply.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Toweled than they look.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Jay C We're okay, I'm I'm fully toweled over here,
a little sweaty on the brow.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
You want a towel for that?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
No, no, no good, Jay got me wrapped up like
a fucking mummy, and seven towels.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Over here is totally fine towels, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
It's a different thing.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I'm gonna sing you something. Hey, so that has to
be the people.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
You're dealing with at two in the morning, the fitness
at a gym that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
I want to know those murderers and if you're you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Should be keeping a list for the FBI.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Yeah, well, oh, I that'd be hilarious if if you
guys had like the America's Most Wanted on the TVs
and they were like, dad, gotta go, and they yeah,
I'll take one of those towels and they just use
it to hide their face.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Out of the seven people currently working out, hey, we
got four out of the top ten, this is pretty
good time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Like, wow, this is like murderers roll up in this lifetime.
Yeah is, but I mean, but we're doing an episode
of Scared Straight right now, saying with this lifetime's doing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Pa Well, but but you think it's gonna be that,
But then all of a sudden you start seeing you
know who in the heck works out at two am.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
And that's what I'm very concerned about.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Yeah, Like, and it starts being the like, who are
the second shifters, who are the you know, the the
the people who are working at the hospital so and
so forth, or who are those people who I couldn't sleep,
so I'm gonna go walk on the treadmill, or I'm
gonna I need someplace to be. And it almost had
this very lonely cheers type of feeling, like the people

(01:01:11):
who would walk in would normally be Now again they
were the weirdos, but it was normally the people who
were like, I need to be around someone or I
need to do something right now. And there is something
incredibly cathartic about that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
States norm everybod.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Ba ba ba.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Now, I'm just imagining Joe walking on a treadmill at
two am. I about eight hours.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Joe would never be caught dead on a treadmill at
two am. Now in nineteen seventy no no a nineteen
seventies exracycle I will that's two am, no no JC.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
It's not one of the ones that is not Jane
Fonda work out with the fucking n it's the yeah,
my mom jeans, I fucking I filled the ass out
on my mom.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Jeans because of that nineteen sixties.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
It's one of the ones that has uh like where
it has the s pedometer and then and you pedal
and it has like the big disc break.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And it is on the front, and it's because Joe's
trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
It's sound I got a good seat, a cushy seat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Count down, Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
It's pro it's not from this from all the I do. Yeah,
it's not from my bicycle.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
My bicycling's by working out and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
But I what I love about the old the old
exercise MIC is it has so it'll say it has
an odometer of how much you've pedaled, but then it
has a chart and then you have to like do
the like how many pedals to like how what your
resistance was. So it's not doing it for you and
showing you the breakdown. You have to do the chart

(01:03:04):
and be like, oh I burned seventy five galories with
my fifteen minutes of bicycling.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
Like Joe's bike had its own abacus.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yeah, the same. He's spike ling bicycling and he's just
a chalkboard next to him. He's like, okay, now I
got that three. So you were acting while you were
also being like you're trying to trying to get acting
gigs while you're doing this, or you're trying to be
acting teaching.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
It was like like that was that was the multi
gig life like that was the youth directing during the
day and the coaching high school tennis and directing high
school theater. And also I need some me time and
to make some money, so I'm gonna go fold some
towels in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Too nice.

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
It's delivery dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
You were, oh Man high school high school theater director?
You how many? So how many kids in under your
tutelage got pregnant? Like Syria? That's all you know, because
it's one adult and like forty or sometimes thirty to

(01:04:08):
forty teenage kids who are all in their prime of
coming to their adulthood looking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
For nooks and crannies and each other.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
What's that? Oh yeah, there's fucking dressing rooms.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
And costume changes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yeah, you know where they make the you know where
they keep the stages at in everything like yeah, yeah, So,
like I feel so bad for you because of course
you add to have gets making out.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
You know, it's when when when when you're a part
of like like we alive like you guys, like Jesus,
everyone could hear you lip wrestling in the theater right now.
Well and and and that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
Like I was very lucky to go ahead and be
be part of programs on the athletic and the theater
side that either I helped bill or that I took
over where uh, there was enough systems and supports to
minimize the uncontrolled elements.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
But by golly, that's not only with with with high
school kids. But I can't imagine like like like Walmart's
like breakroom has to bebe having the the the amount
of craziness going on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
But then the loans Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Was banged at previous workplaces, big guilty it is. You
gotta be careful with that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Joe never banged in a Walmart, though never banged in
a Walmart like that's now added to the bucket list
because you had breakroom brag.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
You had to bang at a target because at least
you knew where to come the tie.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yes it's back or her feet because I know her
babies are made.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
So you're fortunate to not have to deal with those shenanigans.

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
Thankfully, living living with with with uncontrolled panic my whole life.
I've always kept myself out of at least what I
thought was going to be horrible, crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
Frenetic work environments. But then of course you end up
folding towels in the middle of the night and working
at Chinese restaurants when you're twelve. So that's the trade off.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
You tried, had the success, right, we'll still that's out
that's still out there, like we still have figured out
well your number, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Those were a couple that didn't that didn't fly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
We had a couple of floaters in there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Yeah, we had a couple of sinkers.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
You mean it all ties together?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
Min it up?

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Y'all?

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Yeah, it's I need to buy french kiss dot com
like right now, I'm I'm sure it's taken by.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
A Yeah, it's good like a porn site for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Yeah, it's of one. Die jesu? Is that with the
porn a It's like, oh jeez.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Settled down there, sebast and the crab is treating It's like,
oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
It's you're really using all the legs on this one.
Huh put them all all the legs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
So any other job experiences another story.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
You scuttling, Sebastian, scuttling like you're scuttling on a frame.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
You keep scuttling at a frame, dude, like, do you
we marked it with tape? Where the fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Okay, are you done? Done? Done?

Speaker 8 (01:07:34):
I had to get all the scott all then, is
there any other stories from any of the jobs, any
of the things that you can remembering, I.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Got one more for you.

Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
So, living the gig life, you're often presented with one
off opportunities that end up becoming your lifelong icebreakers. My
lifelong icebreaker is I played the cheating, abusive husband of Legwood,
max backup singer in her first video off of her
country album What I Will Break That Down Again?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait what Max Yep
yep yep.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
Fleetwood max backup backup singer. She released her first solo album, which.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
Was Stevie Nick's first solo album, Stevia The Backroom Stevie
And it's not not Christy McGee either.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
Jana Anderson local awesome superstar performer who's who sings around
town all of the time. Jamie release an album and
her first song off that album was One Way Road Made.
It made a music video, and I played her cheating
husband in the music video.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
So you can find this on the YouTube of me
being a straight horrible man cheating on the wonderful Jana
Anderson and the reason I got this opportunity was for
her friend who was making the music video was the
dad of some of my kids in my youth group.

(01:09:03):
So then it made perfect sense for the youth director
actor guy to get to play the cheating husband.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Of course, my question is, did anybody who saw the
music video ever come up like you? Piece of ship
all the time?

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
For real, people watch the video and they go, you're
a bad man, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Excuse me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Part that I played is a thank you because it
shows that you actually thought I was a terrible person,
like James who I was looking. I was trying.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
James Earl Jones wasn't fucking Darth Vader, Okay, he was
James Earl Jones, right, He's just just good at being evil,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
He was just told watching this music video right now
violent is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Oh you think we're not gonna link this you.

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
Okay, but but warning you will see me dancing in
a pair of boxer shorts.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Before is bad, So before, before before everything, when the
good look at you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Pre mustaching the wife beater that you are foreshadowing, you
are watching foreshadowing great wife beater.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
That was like, it's that's that's wild though, Like that
was your big of all the things you've done, they're
not like, hey, I remember you from the Cardigans. No, hey,
aren't you that guy who beat that country singer?

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Here fucking Perkins waitresses like you look a little familiar.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
It's how do I were you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Did you date my friend back in?

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:10:40):
Were you?

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
But Joe?

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
That reminds reason I don't like you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
It's like you're a very likable person.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
JC. There's there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
There are times.

Speaker 6 (01:10:52):
There are times I run into the woman that I
was having an affair with in that music video and
we go, hey, hey, hey we did.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Then someone walks like, you're still fucking doing it? God damn,
I thought it was acting. That wasn't acting.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
It doesn't, it doesn't know. He's a real everything's real,
iron Man, It's real you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Oh Fleetwood mac Baby only heck.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
In a hand basket. I love it. I got out.
Wait is to watch the rest of this again.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
We're linking. You know what that's gonna be this week's gee?
Why did it?

Speaker 8 (01:11:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
No? No no?

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Why Why did ja c fail as an abusive husband
because he's adorable?

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Because he's not?

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Why that? Will you? Are you? Method?

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Did you have to like go hit a bunch of
ladies for a couple of months later You're just like,
my eyes, I gotta do this for a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
I'm in a video. It was a video.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
It was very it was a very trying day.

Speaker 6 (01:11:57):
I had to eat like cooked microwaved green beans and
when I was on my date with the woman that
was having an affair with and then it wasn't until
the night that we went back.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
To have all the Why that got your extra right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Nice? I'm just like his method acting is you had
to you had to drink a case of bush light
every day and then rant about the government, the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Government stuff on. Yeah, it's like you're like during and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Then and then he and then he films it in
the front of his f one fifty while he's wearing
Oakley wrap around shades.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Oh no, but not on his head, not on his
head backwards. You gotta put the gotta put him back there,
because that's where they're needed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
See the mustache though there there also started in that
as a culture, the mustache would be it would definitely
still be the backwards. Oh I'm glad that ended.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Is that Is that done? Because I think I saw
I had a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Because we're in Minnesota, it takes a couple of years
for the trends to not hit us.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Ah, it's like we're still in cargo jeans.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah. So, jac, we don't just exist on this podcast
to have one of the most ridiculous resume segments we've
ever had. No, we also exist on this podcast to
battle the scourge that is known as Karen's. But we
always ask our guests J C. Lepold, how would you

(01:13:34):
define a Karen?

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
So I got a really good answer for this.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
I talk about it within the perspective of people who say, oh,
I wish we could go back to the good old days.
You know, I look at generationally as an old millennial myself.
I go, Gosh, I hope we don't go back to
the good old days, because I hope what I'm doing
today is helping the world be better tomorrow. If we're
going back to the good old days, we're doing something wrong.
So when I look at what a Karen is, a
Karen is a person who does not understand why you

(01:14:02):
would not want to go back to the good old days.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
That that answer shocked Joe so much he dropped out well.
Each and every week, Jac we look at different Google reviews,
Facebook reviews, Yelp reviews, and sometimes it's just tweets or
handwritten notes. It's a segment we call the Karen of
the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
This is Karen. I'm your boss. Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
I'm each and every we find the We scour the internets.

(01:14:55):
We find these and this is a one star review
for National Cheese Pizza Day special at a pizza parla.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Oh no, it was National Cheese Pizza Day. Dude, how
are you gonna complain about this?

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I was really excited to pick up a slice for
National Cheese Pizza Day today and unfortunately an awful customer experience.
I was turned away for being thirty cents short on
one cheese slice of pizza. Thirty cents wait, seven percent
of the total costs, toss real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Isn't this free fucking National free fucking Pizza Day.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
No, it wasn't. It was. It was just cheese Pizza Day.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Oh it's just it's not free pizza Day, Cheese National
cheese Pizza Day. For Martin Luther King Day, it's cheese
pizza Day.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
So this is seven percent of the total cost. As
an alternative. I told them I was a food blogger
on Instagram and would post the slice on my page.
Mind you, I have over ten thousand followers, and restaurants
frequently asked me to come in and try their pizza
for free exchange.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
For a post. I'm just asking for sir.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
When the cashier returned from speaking with her manager, she said,
no discount. It's a shame they could not see the
value in what I had to offer. And disappointing because
now they have forever lost a potential customer. Wow, never
going back there to try their pizza. Not worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Not just one potential customer, thousands.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
Of one potential customer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
This is the Math podcast. Welcome back, Welcome back to
awful integers.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
It's awful ambicus.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
That's actually what's on your exercise is.

Speaker 8 (01:17:05):
There?

Speaker 7 (01:17:05):
Is?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
So I loved it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Hey, this blogger isn't doing very well because they were
thirty cents shortened one sho.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Don't think you're bawling out too high there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
But yeah, I'm sorry you didn't bring a whole three
dollars to this fucking game.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Is and then like if you had a total of
you had.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
All the money and then you were like, yeah, look,
I'm actually here for National Cheese Pizza Day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
I'm doing a blog about this. I don't know if
you know who I am, but I'm pretty famous on.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
I'm pretty famous on live journals.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
I'm a pretty big live journaler.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Listen, my substack has twenty followers.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Did you guys see what I did to the House
of Hueie They are now Their buffet is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Now is I did that? That was me? Not gonna
say it was me, but it was very much.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Me and my blog.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
It's a it's it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
The audacity is just like, unless the business asked you
to come and do a review, why you could.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Still do the review. Yeah, but but you could still
ask for the discount as long as you have.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
The all the money, Yes you can.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
There's no harm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
There's no harm in asking.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
It's just kidding, right, as long as like, but if
you you were thirty cents short, and then they were like, actually,
it's uh, we need uh, we need like a quarter
and a nickel more, And you're like, oh shit, you
do know that I have a million followers on my thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
I'm a social media influencer. Why don't you go ask
the manager if he could waive the thirty cent fee
for my twenty thousand followers coming to your pizza restaurant
for your free pizza, your your cheese pizza day free

(01:19:12):
those it was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
A dollar, it was a dollar slice. But then they
didn't factor in tax.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Oh god, and this is who we follow. This is
the this is the fucking pinpoint of like what the
fuck is wrong with social media?

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
And then they give them a one follow idiots people
follow idiots and these idiots don't think about tax. I
brought a dollar to the dollar pizza day.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Oh I didn't figure in that there might be local
things that need to go to pay things for things
like community centers.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
I see your tax and I raise you. Do you
not understand that I am a social media influencer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
I have the best top eight on MySpace.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
I don't know wy I did a thing for Domino.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
It was last year.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Did you see what I did?

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
And for them? That was all him?

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
It was that was a big meeting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
But you know, what do you think, jac what do
you what do you think about all this?

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
I mean I I I just think back. It's like,
how how shortsighted?

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
Does someone have to be to walk into buy one
single slice of pizza and to be so confident that
the dollar that they have may not be everything that
they need to go and create this humongous response of
a one star review.

Speaker 5 (01:20:33):
It's this is this is Karen to a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
T I'd like to think that they walked in waving
the dollar and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Then put it down triumphantly on the couch pizza and
actually a drop throw that they do. You know, It's
like it's like, it's not they're not throwing it at him,
but they're putting it on the counter with the intent
to make the dollar slide across the counter a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
I'm like a magician, if you will, like a dollar magician.
But also it's like ah, and then they were like, oh,
actually it's a dollar thirty. It's like no, no, no,
I ordered cheese, not pepperoni and sausage.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Pizza.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
But who can also only order one slice of pizza?

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
What monster is that?

Speaker 6 (01:21:21):
There's too much prudence, there's too much thought to then
have this this type of response. I just don't understand
this woman.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Well, I am going to leave the worst review you
have ever seen. You do not know who you just
fucked with by not allowing this. Thirty cents is gonna
cost you in the long.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Run, dozens of dollars, dozens of dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Of dozens of thirty cents are gonna be No one
is coming here. Everybody is going to the other spot
for Nash You old cheese Pizza Day.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
We're gonna go to the burrow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
My National care about uh a few other human beings
day now National Cheese Pizza Day, bitch, Like this is
how we ain't a proud to be an American because
my cheese pizza is free. No this is oh no, no,
it's not free.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
It's a dollar thirty And much like not factoring in
the tax in a purchase, sometimes we have to ask ourselves, Gee,
why did it fail?

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Everything I thought I was here to say, day now
I have to figure out.

Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
What do you did it?

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
I was gonna say, it's just like the only Lina segment.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Much like Joe thinking this is the only Lina segment.
We have to ask ourselves, ge, why did it fail?
We have to we look at different brands, we look
at different businesses. We would probably even look at Ops theater.
Maybe that'll be one of the next ones.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
We do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
But right lately we've been finding commercials and yes, as yes,
it's not so, this.

Speaker 8 (01:23:16):
Is not that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
This is not the kool Aid kids. Thank god, it
is not the Fruito Bendito.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Thank god. I'm so done with that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
He's cartoon and he shows up with a real fucking donkey, Jason,
that's gone, and then he threatens people with violence.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Well, it's not folgers, We're not folgers, not doing a
sexist commercial. But so, there was a brand, a regional
brand on the Northeast called Wilkins Coffee, and Wilkins Coffee
was trying to make a splash in the early days
of television when you could kind of do some alert. Yes,

(01:23:52):
this is some definitely some black and white stuff. Okay,
so they employed this young puppetee here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Is this the original fun?

Speaker 8 (01:24:05):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Yes, I love Wilkins Coffee.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Is these commercials are terrible in the best way, and
I love that he got paid for this and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
It's this week's Gee. Why did it fail?

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
These are the original muppets, jac These are pre muppet muppets.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Is a proto muppets there there are they're moving puppets.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Because these commercials, these commercials are very quick. So it's
actually gonna be We're gonna watch a couple of them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
Put your money in here, and you got a couple
of Wilkins coffee. I don't want any. Then push that button.
How about that Wilkins.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
So first one, the one guy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Tells it's a coffee machine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Coffee machine.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
You push this button, you get Wilkins coffee. And the
other day he's like, I don't want Wilkins. And then
it's a fist.

Speaker 8 (01:24:59):
It's a it's like, with this camera, shoot pictures of
people who don't drink Wilkins coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
I'm ready choot anybody else.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
These are extraordinary. This is what I love about early
Muppet and then early this is very.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Adult, extremely violent.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
The Muppets were not violent.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
That one. This one guy, the guy just shot him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Yeah with a camera.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Camera, yes, yeah, yeah, And then he stares down barrel
with it right through your soul.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Wilkins coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
I'll kill you exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
It's this was you'll like this new car. You know
it's got a built in maker for Wilkins's the coffee.
Who needs it? Why you can't sell them all? It
just mashes his head in the fucking.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
In the Lord of the Car and Tesla just redid
this commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
It's like, hey, welcome to Doge. I got I put
Doge in this car and just smash his face. I
got your parachute. I forgot it about the Wilkins coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
I forgot that too. You'll never forget this a biplane.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
It just drops him out of the biplane like it's like, hey,
oh uh, I'm the guy that eventually plays Fazzy bear Ah,
but uh, I also forgot the Wilkins coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
It's like, and it's I also love it that basically
the spokesman's basically Kermit, but like an evil Kerment.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
Yes, it's it's adult Kermit. It's this is the Kermit
that everyone he wanted that nobody got.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Last request like a couple of Wilkins. He's a bad
electric cut. Holy ship, Holy ship, Oh my god. That
might be the most fucked up commercial we have ever
played on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
So for the listener, it was Kermit.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
That's not Kermit. It's a big blob. And then uh,
the other blob that plays Fazzy is just another blob.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
And then he's hooked an electric He's mildly kirmity.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
This original Kermit violently coffee, Kermit Wilkins coumy Kermitt?

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Is that a thing? How do we what is this
thing's name? Like, we don't know it never it's never named.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
It's just it's just it's just like there's like it's
the spokesman. But yeah, and he but he's hooked. So
he's hooked up. The guy into the electric chair. The
guy like, well, do you want a cup of coffee
before you die? And he's like no, not really, and
then he just lips the switch and again shocking just
down about barrel down the barrel.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Looking you in your face while he pushes the switch.

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
It's a real, yeah, it's a real You should if
you're getting Juan Valdez coffee, you can go fuck yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
You just killed a fucking puppet.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Every time you buy that, that would be a hilarious commercial.
Every time you buy wan.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Little mister Wilkins do if I don't, oh, he'll.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Probably that meta.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Yeah, and that guy got his hand broken? Where was
that puppet?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
They were non union actors.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
That was like a little that was like a little
midget hand and it's like the Wizard of Oz. They
don't pay him good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
That one they just they're sitting on a legend the guy,
so he doesn't want it. So presumably the foot of
mister Wilkins stomped the muppet that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Doesn't like Wilkins colle that's mister Starbuck.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
So yeah, that was that was the original of this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
It's love, No, it's I love. And then we got
muppets because of this. This guy, mister Jim Hansen was like,
I got this idea, we're gonna do like a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
We're just gonna murder muppets.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Yeah, it's but that was. Look like I make puppets,
now I make sock puppets. They're all murderers.

Speaker 11 (01:29:44):
They're all disgusting monster murderers. Like that's the whole game is.
And then I eventually will learn that you can't murder puppets.
Is you can't electrocute puppets.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
It's not the appropriate thing. Which, by the way, could
you go back a little bit to the uh yeah,
I pause just positive for the uh yeah there, it's
he has a literal phone cord. That's a phone that
make that make do It's not like they that's a

(01:30:20):
house phone cord.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Wilkins Coffee wasn't making that kind of scratch back then, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
And and and mister Henson wasn't producing these for much money,
so they had to like think simply is. But I
find it hilarious that it was like literally just a
phone card.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Hot glued into this and hot glued into that. We're
good like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
That's but it's it's fratuitous because again, when we were
on one of the breaks earlier, JC had referred to
himself as the muppet puppet humans.

Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
So watching all of these videos were semi traumatic. But
also if we think to our childhoods, it was funny
to watch people in pain or puppets in pain. Yes,
one of my favorite movies, UHF Weirdell's movie. There's a
moment he's on his show and he goes like to
his character, he's like, look up, look down, now, look
at mister frying pan, and he hits his co host

(01:31:21):
in the face of the frying pan and everybody is
supposed to laugh. It's harder to laugh when it's humans,
but that was pretty hard to laugh when they were
old time muppets too.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Yes, it's weird. It feel bad, Yeah, and always a
coffee brand side note, it's to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
My my niece. I am a gold Muppet because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Because to you so many times as like an animal
from the Muppets, if he was a real.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Boy, I would love to get cast as real life
animal from That's your I never want doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
So this has been a fun episode, but I think
it's time we eighty six the podcast, jac But before
we go, we do have one last sing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Are we all out of Only and Lena jokes?

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Because I think I feel like, you know, honestly, I
just don't want this podcast to become like an Only
and Lina joke? And you get real old, real.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Question, Joey and Lina, that's your next time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
You do the Monday night comedy show. That's Whole. It's
about a New Yorker and a woman from Minnesota.

Speaker 7 (01:32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:32:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Well we have one last segment, Jacy. It's where you
our guest Jaycey. You get to do a Yelp review
of the podcast. It's called human Yelp Reviews. You can
use a five star metric or as many stars as
you like. You can either review the podcast as a
whole or Joey and myself as individuals, and whenever you'd.

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
Like to start Boom so you both inspired this yelp
review today.

Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
So my favorite movie of all time Plane Chains and Automobiles,
John Martin, When you reference John Candy before, I'm like,
I know exactly how to rate this.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
I'm giving you both because.

Speaker 6 (01:33:14):
You create this yin and this ying, this very beautiful
relationship that makes people want to bang their heads on
the wall and put their hands between pillows.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
I'm getting everybody is just hagging their own like everyone's
got their own bell in in.

Speaker 6 (01:33:31):
In true honor of John Canny, I'm gonna give you
both two shower curtain rings, one Diantre autographed earring in
one Walter kron tight mood ring because it's the right
amount of stuff, right, y'all make up the best of
ship and you make money for it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
That's that's John Candy's message to us, all right here.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
I absolutely love that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
That's that is I don't think we've gotten that review before.
I don't one hundred and seventy some episodes finally took
that long.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
It took took a few.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Yeah. Most of the time they're just like a five stars,
or they try to be funny and they say one star.
Although that hasn't been I know that for a while, Jac,
how do our how do our listeners follow you?

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
I love staying in contact Y'allso J Clipple dot com
or you can find me J C. Lipple on the Instagrams,
the facebooks, the wherever you can find me?

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Are you on IMDb because of the Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
I don't think I got IMDb for my cheating husband.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
The Cargins place or the cheating husband's but place.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
He's very faithful, you guys. It's called acting. Look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
By the book.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
And if you enjoy Jac Lippole, he'll be on the
next comedy Through the Chaos that's gonna be at Krooner's
Supper Club this May. I believe it's the second Saturday.
You're gonna double check with that one. But find the
going there. Social media is find it out, uh.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
Right after your end of the show, after you, I
find I love being on shows that you're on because
you blow my mind of like epics of Showman, the
showmanship is next level.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
I thought I was next level. You you just lapped me. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
That's that's the drugs that makes you think your next level.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Ah, but I am the drug else is on the drugs.
But I'm fine. We're all on the same level.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Joe. How do people follow you?

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
It's just Instagram the word uh photographizing, it's the word
photograph and.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
I z I n G because I thought that was
a genius name.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
And instead it's Instagram. It's a it's a camera that
has a gun in it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Boom super bang.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
I don't like coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Oh geez, are you a tea muppet like?

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Oh geez, I didn't like that. You can follow me.
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Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Wow, they're not gonna, No, they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
They don't want to hear those jokes.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
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They got beatle butts in it.

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the time. On the first weekend in April, you can
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worth the damn Karen Pickering. We love her. You're gonna

(01:37:15):
enjoy it. It's gonna be great. So buy tickets for that.
By tickets, we have great buttercups. Oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
It's about to get raw.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
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Email us your stories, tell us what your think a
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Email us at Awful Surface podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Is it the is it the mime show? Can you handle? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
What what do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
This is a mime.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
JC. Thank you so much, Thank you for putting up
with us. You've been lovely.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Thanks boys, and as always, Oh, I got a only
Alena for the road.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
It's as uh as a birthday gift. Talita All He
gave her a check for a hundred kisses. One day
when Oi was off running some arrants.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
She had a good looking mailman.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
Cash it marbleches. Have a good night.

Speaker 12 (01:38:18):
It's time to count the sweep the flaws, and mop
the spells. Say God night, dispose up the trash and turn.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Out the light.

Speaker 12 (01:38:31):
Tell me why I try and.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
It's so damping as Eliza. I'll take my tips.

Speaker 12 (01:38:40):
My services have heard me.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
This may I will find a way up of for now,
of count, might.

Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
Tip and lock the door.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
This has been a tape Deck Media production.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
Thank you for listening.

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