January 30, 2024 • 41 mins
Chatted up Jeremy Radio from the Charlotte, NC band Thousand Dollar Movie about their song, "Central Ave" off their latest release, "Give Me A Year".
It's an honor and privilege for me to meet working artists who constantly look for new ways to pursue their craft and share it with the world. Jeremy has a ton going on and I think all of it is really cool. He has earned my ongoing support, I hope he gets yours as well.
You can stream "Give Me A Year" at:
https://thousanddollarmovie.bandcamp.com/
Better yet, you can buy the cassette here: https://fourfingerrecords.bandcamp.com/
#ThousandDollarMovie #CentralAve #GiveMeAYear #JeremyRadio #FourFingerRecords #brettjamesjohnson #threecrowsclub #musicpodcast #bsidebreakdown
It's an honor and privilege for me to meet working artists who constantly look for new ways to pursue their craft and share it with the world. Jeremy has a ton going on and I think all of it is really cool. He has earned my ongoing support, I hope he gets yours as well.
You can stream "Give Me A Year" at:
https://thousanddollarmovie.bandcamp.com/
Better yet, you can buy the cassette here: https://fourfingerrecords.bandcamp.com/
#ThousandDollarMovie #CentralAve #GiveMeAYear #JeremyRadio #FourFingerRecords #brettjamesjohnson #threecrowsclub #musicpodcast #bsidebreakdown
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Three tros B Side Breakdown. Heyeveryone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown.
My name is Brett Johnson and I'myour host. This is episode eighteen
of a podcast where I talk withother artists, musicians, and songwriters about
a piece of music they've written that'smeaningful to them that they can give me
permission to play in its entirety onthis episode, and then we have a
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chat and get deep into the whybehind it. Today I'm gonna be talking
with Jeremy Radio from the band ThousandDollars Movie about their song Central AV.
So let's get into it. Hereis Central AV by one thousand dollars movie
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about all right, and that wasCentral AV Bye thousand Dollars movie. We're
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gonna take a quick break and we'llbe right back with Jeremy Radio. Stay
with us, all right, andwe're back. So let's bring in Jeremy
Radio and talk about the song CentralAV Bye thousand Dollars movie. Hey,
Jeremy, thank you so much fortaking some time today to talk to me
about Central AV. Yeah, man, still to be a board, Thank
you. And listening to the toCentral Avenue. I've listened to it a
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bunch of times and I it's justgot a really cool vibe to it,
and I you know, it's funny. There's Central Avenue in Minneapolis where I
grew up, and so I'm listeningto it and I'm just kind of it
brings back visions of that for me, just kind of on a regular sort
of city day. But you know, regardless of my interpretation, I'd love
to hear about about Central Aba andkind of what's going on with that and
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the purpose behind it or the creationbehind it, or the thoughts behind it.
Yeah, well that's really cool tohear because I so Central abs a
part of this record we put outcalled Give Me a Year, And you
know, it's kind of Mike WattsMike Hero and I think he calls them
operas instead of concept albums. Surea little bit. There are all little
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pieces of a big story. Buta lot of the songs on the album
are named after neighborhoods or streets inCharlotte. But I love hearing you know
what other people think about when theyhear it. You know, cats from
Charlotte would be like, oh man, that totally reminds me of that neighborhood,
you know, which is cool.But here that oh yeah. There's
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a central avenue in Minneapolis also,and it made you think of a year
street, you know, but it'sa central avenue here in Charlotte is I
guess very specifically it connects you tothe Plaza Midwood neighborhood, which is kind
of like has always been the gritty, cool district with like the rad dive
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bars and venues. You definitely wouldlike watch your back on your way back
to your car, familiar with thatneighborhood. Every city's got one, Oh
yeah, absolutely, and you know, you know you're getting closed because every
suddenly every phone pole is covered inflyers and stickers. You know, every
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every city's got that hood. Butuh, I think much like every other
city, it's getting gentrified like crazy. Charlotte's growing insane right now, and
so you know, it's a it'schanging a lot, and it's still rad.
There's still thankfully some remnants, youknow, some two of the my
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favorite venues in town to play outher there, and they thankfully made it
through COVID and all this, allthese other spots getting pushed out by the
landlords. So yeah, still somecool stuff there, but it's so much
construction around there is so much,uh, lofts and breweries going everywhere on
top of it. And so whenI was writing this record, because we're
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mostly like you know, it's it'sa punk rock song, and we don't
have any songs like that, eventhough that's all listen to, but we're
more of like a shoe guys band, and had an idea for for,
you know, for the record tohave, like, man, I feel
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like the Central Avenue song because Ikind of started with the Bridge on it,
which is like, you know,very like nostalgic kind of heartbreaker,
yep. But I wanted I wasthinking like, oh, we could have
these like big hits that might kindof like signify like everything being steamrolled and
blown up and torn down. Youknow. I wanted to kind of have
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this feeling of like destruction a littlebit where so that happens a few times
in the song the big hits,but then the Bridge and then the Ultra.
I just really wanted to get thisfeeling of like like remorse or like
nostalgia maybe, like because it ischanging so much and you know, and
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I think there's lots of ways toreact to that in our cities, when
beloved neighborhoods change, but the bestway is like, hey, yeah,
we had some good times there,but like there's still it's changing, but
it's still there. So like,let's not wait until Snug Harbor and Petras
like the great venues there. Let'snot wait until they close to do some
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Instagram memorial post about them, likelet's support them now, you know,
like sure, like yeah, I'dmourned for the good old days, but
it's still there's still rad stuff goingon, so let's let's support it while
we can instead of like you know, and then that brings up a deeper
conversation too. I think of likewhich this record really hit for me,
is you know, let's not justwait until you know people are gone to
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say how stoked we are on them, or let's not wait till that record
store closes to do that little postto be like, oh man, it's
so sad that they're gone. It'slike, yeah, it's not how much
you like them while they're there sothey can stay open, you know,
totally agreed. No, it's that'sso perfect and and I love the way
that you said that. Just thethe part about nostalgia when listening to it,
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like there's a bit of right,I mean at the end, like
the tail end, I'm like,ah, Like, I mean, a
part of me is so short.I want it to be longer, and
I want it to be more.I want more, which kind of creates
that sort of that longing nostalgia partof it, I think for me as
well. But I totally relate towhat you're saying. And man, I've
experienced that so many times, particularlyin Minneapolis, there was We've seen so
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many venues and the landscape of theareas that were the spots to be in
change so significantly, And like yousaid, yeah, I mean, if
I have to see another craft breweryor street taco stand, I'm gonna,
you know, sort of throw upa little bit. But I think the
with that and all the lofts thatcome in, and it's just sort of
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to me, it's really ruined theintegrity of this stuff we're talking about.
But to your point, it's like, well, yeah, but it's not
all gone. There is still ascene happening. It's just now sort of
shifted and moved to different areas orto newer venues that have popped up.
Even though the old favorite classic,you know, I mean, there's a
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spot in Minneapolis that I loved.The guys. There was a punk band
for Minneapolis called Dillinger four and theyopened a club right so the trip rock
so close. I was sad forall to hear that. Yeah, right,
So it's it's one of those that'sa great example of one where you're
like ah, man. And theUptown Bar was another one in Minneapolis that
I loved, right on Lincoln Hennepenand they close down and turn into like
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an Apple store or a Columbia store, and I'm like, fuck man,
Like it was. It was sucha bummer for me because I mean,
like Spinal Tap toured and played there. I mean I saw Tumble Wumba there
twenty years ago before they're you know, top thumping hit. But it's just
like you know, you'd see allkinds of crazy interesting bands play there,
and I've played there a million timesmyself, and it's like to see those
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things disappear, It's like you're seeingthis element of your scene and kind of
your history go away, and it'shard to It's like you said, though,
I mean, I'm grateful now thatwe have the social media, like
to your point of of like kindof that nostalgia page for this record store
that's still happening, Like, let'sdo something cool for it now, because
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in two thousand and five it wasthere was no thing to do about it,
you know what I mean, Like, but now, you know,
with that kind of current technology,that's such a great idea. Just yes,
I mean, embrace and love thethings you love and keep them alive
as long as we can, youknow. I mean it's like, what's
the present day equivalent to the tothe Instagram eulogies? You know? Is
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it just like gratitude for the thingsaround you, like sharing it, talking
about it, you know, Andthat can seem cheesy, but it's like,
yeah, I don't want to waitfor my favorite burger place to close
down before, you know, Italk about how great it was, yeah,
or to that, you know.I don't know if you listen to
like the whole record, but theuh, the last song is really about
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a friend of ours, but buddyLarry, who were in bands together and
toured hard for like ten years andright before when in the studio he passed
away. He got sick with COVIDand some other complications and you know,
and it was it just really hitme with that it's like, man,
like, you know, I'm prettygood about telling my friends I care about
him and not sure, you know, a big wake up too of like,
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you know, he was my age. He was like, we did
have the same lifestyle. We toreour brains out. All we did was
play clothes and and you know,it sucks to think, like, you
know, you don't want to waituntil they're not there anymore to like say,
like, dude, you're awesome.You know, I like, I'll
love playing music. Yeah, becauseeverybody said all the sweet things. He
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was gone rightfully, so you know, but I'm like, man, I
wish everybody would have told him allthis stuff while he was around. He
probably would have loved to hear it, you know. Yeah, I know,
I appreciate you sharing that, andI'm sorry for the loss of your
friend. Yeah, because I meanin you know, I guess to echo
that we recently did. I waspart of an independent record label in Minneapolis
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called Blueworm Records that started in thelate nineties, and and there was a
lot of bands and a lot ofcamaraderie and scene stuff that happened kind of
as a result of that, andwe had a twenty fifth anniversary show a
couple of years ago at a differentvenue in Minneapolis that's fairly new to Minneapolis,
you know, so it wasn't oneof the old haunts that we used
to actually play, but it wasone of those opportunities whereas it really felt
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like, I mean, as ifI could have a meaningful high school reunion
that sort of felt like it,you know what I mean. It was
just one of those this whole scenekind of came back together to celebrate kind
of several bands and all these friendshipsand reconnections and stuff, and it was
so important to all of us thatwere able to participate in it, and
it echoes exactly. I think thepoint you're making, like I couldn't.
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I can't support that enough that yes, do those things now, way you
can, you know what I mean, don't wait till it's too late.
Yeah, exactly. No, that'sthat's awesome to hear. So Admittedly,
no, I'm embarrassed to say I'venot listened to the entire record yet,
but I pinky swear I will,and I look forward to listening to it
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in kind of continuity from beginning toend, so I can kind of get
that whole trajectory and intention of itwith it. But yeah, I think
it's the cool piece. I'm reallyproud of it because I mean it really
like, you know, the wholething is I guess at the end of
the day about like being a scaredlittle kid move into a city, trying
to join a band, and thenbefore you know it, you're like the
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old guy sitting at the bar.You know. Yeah, you know,
because that was That's my story,and I hear I think whether it's Charlotte
or Chicago or l A, alot of musicians have done that. I
think you kind of relate to it, you know for sure, yep,
most definitely. So I mean withthat, i'd love to hear more about
I mean you and in your experience, but also how did one thousand Dollars
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movie come together? Like how longhas the band been a band? Yeah?
So we played our first show inDecember of twenty eighteen and it kind
of started. I have a goodfriend, Jesse Proctor out of Seattle.
It's a familiar name. Yeah,he's just one of those guys that kind
of makes you sick. Always goodat like literally every instrument. You know,
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I'm like, sure, I'm abase man, and that's all I've
played since I was twelve. Andyeah, he's just like amazing at everything.
But he I do a lot ofhigher gun like bass work, like
in the studio and touring with differentartists, and so we kind of met
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doing that stuff, and so wewould just send riffs back and forth,
and I think we kind of hada thought like maybe, like, let's
just try to write some songs maybewe could use for like licensing or something.
And they just kept getting there weremore like a little left to center
and not really you know, ifyou're going that route, you got to
write some black keys kind of stuff. But after we had kind of a
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couple of like songs together, Iwas like, hey, man, because
he's out in Seattle, you know, like I said, So I was
like, man, I'm thinking aboutputting together like a local thing here because
I love this. I think thiswould be a rad band, you know,
I want to play shows with it. And so, you know,
he he gave it his blessing,and but we did the DP mostly me
and him, just sending stuff backand forth. But yeah, then I
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put a crew together here and westarted started playing shows in December of twenty
eighteen. I'll quote him often,but you know, I'm a big Mike
wat guy, and he always sayseverything is either gigs or flyers, you
know, right, yeah, Soto me, like, yeah, the
gig has always been the most importantthing, and putting out the record,
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a music video, you know,all that other stuff is just flyers to
maybe get people to the gig.So sure, you know, once I
had a batch of songs, I'mlike, okay, like I want to
really, I just want to playa ton of shows. And it's been
so fun. Like I've been I'vebeen touring for twenty years in different bands,
but I've been playing a band sinceyou know, I was twelve and
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I'm thirty nine now, and itreally has been one of my favorite projects
I've ever done, which I saythat not at a bragu way, but
like I was, I wouldn't haveexpected it, you know, because it's
like instrumental shoegay zy, very basedriven, and so yeah, it's it's
done pretty well on a local level, and we've done a few East Coast
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tours and yeah, good turnouts andwe're just having a blast with it,
like it's so fun. Obviously,COVID shutdowns everything slowed down a good bit.
We put out some singles, butuh, yeah November we just did
a week and a half ish tourand and yeah it was it was our
October. Actually it was a itwas a blast, had a great time.
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And yeah we're working on the newone now and we've got the studio
rented out in like two weeks.I think, oh wow, okay,
so about the follow this one up? So yeah, that's kind of that's
my movie. The lineups changed alittle bit, but it's friends come and
go, you know, everybody keepshaving babies and getting it shows, you
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know, but you light up.For the record was my friend Zach Looper
and Leo so Lease on guitar andDom Gerald's on drums, and everybody kind
of contributed with the writing. Sowe really went into the studio for that
one with just some basic ideas andI really kind of wanted to figure it
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out like together, and I waslike I got riffs, like and it
kind of everybody brought in some ideas, but we're like, let's just try
to like get on the floor andlike jamp we recorded it all live on
the floor together. But we're like, let's kind of just like kind of
see where these songs go. Becausewe all have been playing together for so
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long. I know we could kindof improve a little, but you know,
and it's like and it might suckand we'll waste all our studio time
trying to get another way. Butwe didn't do a lot of preprif for
it, and so yeah, itreally turned out pre rat So I think
we're going to try the same thingwith the next one, Like, let's
just have some rough ideas and seewhat happens, not like a jam band
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because we're not nerds, but youknow, some cool ideas in the moment.
Yeah. Yeah, that's kind ofthe basic TD in you know,
overview for Suure. So then andagain you're saying the cast of characters may
have changed a bit. So isit the same group going into the studio
this time as it was last time? Yeah? Correct, Yeah, that's
been kind of the main lineup forthe last year and a half. Okay,
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cool, all right, good,No, that's great, and so
so are the rest of the players. Are all those guys just local Charlotte
folks from this Charlotte music scene thatyou've known for how long and just kind
of grab the people, you know, and make it work. Yeah,
exactly. And Leo Solis, whoworks guitar. He me and him in
twenty fifteen or sixty and we starteda local label called four Finger Records,
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and uh, just really kind ofthe way that Discord focuses on DC,
we just wanted to focus on Charlotte. You know. We put out a
few cassette tape compilations of just Charlottebands and you know, throw all a
lot of shows and showcases and stuff, and it's yeah, it's been a
blast. So me and him arekind of serial collaborators. Him and his
wife have a really amazing band calledSoles, very like kind of like poured
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his head, you know, electroindie. Yeah, really really cool stuff.
So I play bass for them.Cool plays guitar in my band,
and so yeah, we kinda Wealso do a lot of recording work.
We have a little crew called theGigantic Recording Company. We do that together.
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So yeah, he's just kind offor whether he loves it or likes
it or not, we're kind ofattached to the hip creatively at all times.
Yeah, yeah, no, that'sgreat. That's great. So then
what's again, what's the name ofthe other band that you're playing in with
him, So lease s O lI S and yeah, and it's on
all the all the streams and stuff. But yeah, yeah, really cool,
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really cool band. But he's justhe's so good at just making vibe
and making walls of noise. Andthen Zak, the other guitar player,
is just so good at just likelaser executing really cool parts. You know.
The two of them together for aband like us is like really amazing
one two punch on guitars, youknow. So yeah, yeah, it's
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a it's really good. Greer thenDom Gerald's drummer. Man, we've been
playing together for a long time andsure excuse me, so yeah, he
uh we we play with a lotof different light bands or a lot of
higher gun stuff together as well.So you know with rhythm section when you
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get those guys that I feel likeme and him can start to just read
each other's minds, you know,yep, understand that totally. Yeah,
you know, So we do improva lot in this band where we're like,
we'll just stay on the section tilllike a cue everybody or something.
If if we start like making noiseand jamming and it's just having a drummer
like him makes it so awesome becauseI don't need to tell them when we
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should go to the next part.We just yeah, we're really going to
read each other. So yeah,that's a really really great career, guys.
And we've just been playing together along time since we have I think
we have really good chemistry. No, it sounds like it. That's great.
And then yeah, and you canhear it in the song for sure,
and that's even you know, again, when did that come out?
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So? When was that record released? February of this year? Oh,
February this year? Okay, gotit? And is that available? Where
can people get that? Is thaton band camp? Yeah? So you
can get it on a thousand hoursmovie band camp if you just pop that
in Google and uh, and thenyou know it's on all the streams and
stuff. If you go to fourFinger Records band camp, you can get
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the cassette tape sweep and the secondpressing, which is exciting because I've never
had to repress anything like That's awesome. Congratulations. I have an attic full
of the old CDs. Oh man, I'm familiar with that too. You
have the garage just full of likeboxes of Yeah, I remember that record
from fifteen years ago. Okay,I don't think there's gonna be some resurgence.
I don't know what. Probably shouldrecycle it a little awesome. Well,
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let's actually let's take a quick breakand then we'll come back and find
out more about what you're working onnext. And I'd love to hear more
about kind of the hired gun stuffyou're doing and anything else you're working on.
Cool, yeah, all right,cool, all right, everybody stay
with us. We'll be right back. All right, We're back with Jeremy
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Radio from Thousand Dollars Movie. Jeremy, thank you so much for again taking
some time to talk with us aboutthe song Central Avenue and telling us more
about the band. I just wantto turn it back to you though,
and see is there anything else upand coming you want to talk about.
I know you have an upcoming recording, but is there anything else you're working
on and could be this band related, other bands related, not music related
at all. Just curious what elseyou're working on and you have coming up.
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Yeah. So I'm I'm also prettyactive in another band called Crenshaw Pentecostal.
It's like a very replacements influenced,kind of all country band, so
it's super fun, just like rockand roll. So we've got a few
singles out on all the streams andstuff, and uh so we're we're going
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to the studio in like a weekto do another single. Actually, so
we played three or four shows amonth, so we're always we're always out
there jamming if famby is interested,if you follow, I'm Jeremy Radio and
all the Instagram stuff, and I'malways posting about those gigs. But uh
so, yeah, we got wegot some stuff come up. But it's
been a it's been a blast.The guitar player in that band, Dusty
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Redman, was in a band calledBeloved back in the day, kind of
pretty similar, kind of indie hardcoreband in the early two thousands, and
I used to drive like hours togo see Beloved play. So we've got
to become friends over the years,and it's really cool to be in a
band with him. Also, youknow nice, Yeah, but it's it's
really fun rock and roll. Soyeah, we got some we'll have some
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perpetually playing around Charlotte and Carolina,but some new music coming out soon.
And then I mentioned Gigantic recording company. So that's we do it all kind
of mostly like via the internet,Like artists send us a demo to a
click and we play everything. Youknow. They kind of sell us what
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music direction they want and we dobass, drums, guitar keys, send
it back to them, make anychanges. Once they approve it, they
record their vocals, we mix somemaster it, and you have a song
and we at a necessity during COVID, you know, we're all stuck at
home and yeah, you know,twenty nineteen, I think I did one
hundred and eighty shows and in Idid one and so you know, just
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try other ways to keep the lightson. And so we've ended up kind
of we've been doing it since,you know, twenty twenty, and it's
it's been going really well. Wemeet a lot of cool people, and
you know, we've had clients thatare like stay at home moms that never
thought they could put out a song, and they just have this song idea
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and now they've got this like radfinished song or two. And then they
start to meet musicians and can showthem like, oh okay, well this
is the sound. And then theyput a band together and now they're playing
shows and doing music videos and that'svery amazing. Yeah, right, Like
it's really cool. It kind ofgives people permission to like, maybe it's
intimidate you just move to a newcity and you haven't met a band yet,
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you know, but you got thesesong ideas. Yeah, it's been
really cool. And so we're aboutto start doing another thing with that where
there's kind of this new technology towhere you can actually almost like zoom,
be watching my screen while I'm recordingin like logic or whatever, so like
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you could be involved in me recordingon your song in real time and be
like, oh, actually, whatif you tried it more like this?
You know, Yeah, I forgetwhat it's called. But we're kind of
learning that right now and kind ofour next little phases we're gonna start offering
that, which is pretty exciting,you know, like little you can book
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a thirty minute forty five minute sessionand with a drummer and you can actually
be across the world and kind ofbe in the session with him. So
pretty cool, just like learning aboutall that stuff more. Because I'm not
like a studio nerd. I'm aI'm a song and dance man. I
want to be on stage. Yep, yep. But it's been fun kind
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of learning all that more and actuallybeing more confident as a studio player too,
you know. So yeah, anyway, so Gigantic's kind of working on
that whole, like learning all thatnew stuff and kind of chasing that rabbit
hole. You know. Yeah,tell me one more time. What's the
name of that Gigantic What Gigantic Recordingcompany? And is that you are all
as well dot com as Yeah,it's suck Gigantic dot com s up such
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gigantic dot com. That's great.I'll make sure to include that, man,
because that's that's such a cool thingyou're doing, and it's so creative
and such a great way to toyeah, to keep active and to keep
doing stuff and to keep you know, kind of community alive during COVID and
all of that. But also justjust that example you gave, it's so
cool to hear, like, Yeah, someone who's never forad in the songwriting
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necessarily on their own, or hasn'trecorded anything or got out there, now
all of a sudden, Wow,they kind of have permission to have a
voice to go do it, justbecause you're able to help facilitate that for
them like that is that is awesome, like good for you guys, so
good that you're doing that. Youknow, it's cool because like I sell
the time like for me, likeI think with any creative endeavor you need
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permission, like if you grew upin a house without you know, I
got a lot of friends I grewup with, like musician and art artists
parents, and so it was alwaysa no brain to them that you could
do it. You know. SureI did not grow up in that situation,
and you know, at least likefull time anyway. And he's like
my dad played guitar a little bit, but I never can make a living
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from it. Or I thought maybeyou just had to be like you won
the lottery and that's how you gotto go on tour and have this cool
life. But you know, andthen I'm eleven and I hear the Descendants,
Yeah, song about coffee, andI, oh, you can write
a song about anything. You don'thave to be this deep brooding poet,
you know. And so I gota base for Christmas that year, and
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I started a band, you know, and like punk rock gave me permission
that like anybody can do this,you know, And I think it's still
to this day. Even though allthe technology is there and there's all these
examples of people just like starting bandsand stuff, I still think sometimes people
just need the little permission, andI think showing them how easy it is
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to write and put out music orrecord and put out music is sometimes I
think for some of these cats,that kind of gave him the go ahead.
And I'm really happy if that's thecase, you know, yeah,
yeah, absolutely absolutely. I meanright, and I look back at I
mean to age myself, you know, to go back to to have the
technology that's available now, and ifI had that when I was eleven,
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like, oh my goodness, youknow, I just can't imagine like how
much creativity would have been captured andrecorded and let's go do, let's go,
let's go, let's go. BecauseI mean, I grew up in
a similar household where no, myparents didn't play music. I think my
they sort of did, but likenot as like a primary passion or a
career focus in any level. Andso there's always the what's your plan B,
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what's your planning B? What's yourplan B? You know, even
for me just as a trying tohustle it you know, making music a
thing and and so and getting outof that mindset is really challenging for a
lot of people. And I knowit's really hard to I can't mean,
I can only speak for my experience, but it was hard for me to
to also commit to the rink ofnot having a SETI paycheck, you know
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what I mean, and doing thosethings that you got to do, like
to hustle and survive as a musician. And I was able to do that
for a handful of years, andthen I was like, yeah, you
know, medical insurance is valuable forme and I kind of need to have
it. So it's like it's oneof those I ended up having to make
some trade offs in for myself inlife just to still be able to how
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do I navigate and explore and pursueall of my passions creatively but then still
be able to do what I needto do. And even with the technology
and the advances and everything that's changedthat you were just even speaking to,
like that enables all of that too, where it's not like, no,
I don't have to be in apractice space four nights a week like I
used to be and grinding it outwith these same three dudes, because that's
the only way we're going to getanything completed. And then go into that
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analog studio and record on two inchtape and do all of that. It's
like, it's so now right.I mean, yeah, I'm at home
with my you know, microphone,my head rush and an interface and I
can record on my computer, youknow what I mean. And it's just
so beautiful to have that. Andalso from the file sharing nature of recording,
because similar to what you're talking about. I mean I did very similar
stuff, wrote records with people inArizona and Minnesota while I'm in South Carolina,
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and it's just you know, filesharing and making it happen and getting
it together and just that's it's wonderfulthat we have the ability to do that.
No, it's really wild because Imean, you know, like I
said, I started. I'm surewe were awful, but started bands right
away when I was like twelve andthirteen and know how to record, Like,
you know, we would maybe havethe cool older cousins say, oh,
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you gotta get a four chat recordera little taskcam cassette. Yeah,
And so we went and got one. But like I couldn't figure it out.
There's no YouTube. I didn't knowwhat the heck I was do.
Sure, Like in some ways Iwish there was more evidence of my early
bands. But also I'm kind ofequally glad YouTube wasn't a thing or I
might have some embarrassing videos. Ohyeah, yeah, no, is that
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is true too? Yes, butlike, yeah, it's so cool.
How you know, if you getsomeone to give you the go ahead,
like you can jump right in andlike, you know, most people's laptops
already have garage band on it,already have a pretty good recording software,
you know, and so yeah,it's it is cool how you can have
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all the tools in prendy. Butstill yeah, like it's you know you
might need that, but yeah,you can do it, man, Just
go do it. Just put itout, you know, right, give
it a shot. What's the worstthing is going to happen? I mean,
pay a few bucks and it's onSpotify, like there it is.
Anyone can go listen to it aroundthe world. Like put it out.
iTunes was first a thing. Itwas really hard to get your stuff on
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it. Yeah, right, youknow, now you can have it up
in twenty four hours exactly. Butno, the same for me, Like
I I didn't know. I knewyou could go on tour, but I
didn't know you could ever make moneyfrom it. And so I thought,
you know, you don't grow upin the nineties and see it all these
like every punk man had a songabout laugh on the road, and I
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just thought it was the coolest thing, and that's all I've ever wanted to
do. But I thought, like, Okay, I got to go to
college and make some money and thenyou save up and you can go on
tour with your band. I guessthat's how they do it. And after
probably not I'm up into college,I was like, screw this and Charlotte
get in the van. Yeah exactly, Yeah. I read that about once
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a year Charlotte, and I wasjust like, I'm just gonna try to
join a band here so I cango on tour. I met some cool
musicians up here. And I'm fromHartsville, South Carolina originally, but and
so I moved to Charlotte when Iwas eighteen or nineteen too, and a
year or two later, I wasdoing my first tour and it was the
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you know, it was pretty brutal, but it was still like it got
the hooks in me and it wasjust the coolest thing on the planet.
I loved it so much. Ihear, you're a desert getting three flat
tires and like hungry and no acdriving from LA to Dallas, and I
was just like a golden retriever.I was loving every second of it.
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I I resembled that story. Wethere's a there's an ongoing joke of we
were driving. We had a nineteeneighty Ford Chateau super Wagon that was this
massive van with two gas tanks,no air conditioning, and we're touring in
the middle of August and we're goingfrom San Antonio, Texas to San Diego
and uh, well ultimately but likewe're stopping in you know, Albuquerque,
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Phoenix along the way, and uhthere's this joke that I one of my
guitar players would say, is like, yeah, you know, Brett,
you're just holding like your your coffeecup outside the window to reheat it while
we're driving. You know what Imean. It's just like it's just brutal,
but at the same time all underwear. Yeah, right, it says
doing what you can do to getthere and make it happen. But it
was great. But yeah. Imean I remember, for me, the
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the golden moment was when I realized, oh my god, we just want
to tour and broke even like wedidn't lose money, like that is incredible,
you know, and that for mewas such a huge milestone. But
then, just like you were sayingearlier, I mean earlier in the episode
about you know, yeah, thenpeople start you know, having kids and
getting mortgages and getting married and movingon and doing other things. And then
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unfortunately kind of all that started happeningwith a lot of people in the scene
that I was in, and soa lot of the players that I would
that are ready and hungry to goon tour when you're twenty one or now
twenty eight, twenty nine, andit's like, well they're doing different stuff,
and so it was just an inchof the beast. But it was
awesome to be able to do it. And I'm so grateful that I've been
able to tour that I in theways that I have, you know totally,
and I know I'll have friends thatare like thirty one or thirty two,
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and like, man, I reallywant to like get the touring,
Like you have any advice, I'mlike, yeah, I mean, the
only way I know how to getinto it is, you know, I
was like literally sleeping on a couchat my friend's house. I had no
rent. I think I had onehundred dollars in my bank account, right.
I was like, you know,I was dumpster diving a lot of
the time. And to me,it was like, well, I could
be poor at home, or Icould be poor on the road and see
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the whole country, you know.And so I wasn't getting paid because it's
like, you know, you mightget free pizza at the club, maybe
a free beer, which felt likewinning the lottery, you know, and
it was just like, man,I loved every second of it, and
I still do, you know,thankfully. I was in a band called
Public Radio for most of my twenties, and we hit it really hard and
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did like we were doing all theLA showcase thing and major label crap and
which was awful but got some funnystories out of it. But but you
know, by the end of that, I think that man started to fizzle
out. But I started to meetpeople that hey, we got this artist
two months tour, we can payyou this much. I'm like, oh,
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okay, you know, and itstarted you know, a lot more
of those opportunities started coming along towhere I was touring. But I wasn't
like my band, and sometimes themusic was cool, sometimes it wasn't.
But I was getting to play likethese massive venues and I just had to
show up and play. I didn'thave to do any interviews, the photo
shoots or the you know. Itwas like cool, we leat it in
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we soundcheck, like all right,be back by eight, you know,
and I'm in San Francisco and Iget to go like eat rat food and
it's like, oh, this isvery different than touring in a band and
like, you know, sleeping literallyon a sidewalk in Houston, Texas because
we had tour and co. Yeah. No, it most definitely is.
For most of my thirties, I'vebeen like some thirty nine. Now,
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I've been doing a lot more atwork and and I I always have my
own band, and whenever I havea slower season, I can hit it
hard with my stuff. But that'sbeen kind of my main gig is doing
the Higher Gun tour thing, andI really, I really love it because,
like I said, I'm still Imeet these cats on tour and they're
doing these big tours and they're like, yeah, it's just a job.
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I was like, man, like, that's crazy to me because I get
it, like you approach it likeit is sure, like take it seriously,
but it's the coolest job on theplanet. Man. Like we get
to like meet all these rad people, eat cool food, and like plate
shows every night, like it's there'sstill nothing better on the planet to be
And you know, and they're like, oh, is this like your first
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year doing this. I'm like,no, I've been doing it for twenty
years now. Well cool man.I wanted to circle back again to find
out where then just kind of getback in wrapping up the Thousand Dollars movie
part and and how what's the bestway for everybody to get a hold of
you. Do you have like alink tree? Is it specifically just the
various band camps we talked about,or just follow you on Instagram or is
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there a centralized spot that everybody shouldgo to kind of get all things Jeremy
Radio. Yeah, Instagram. Rightnow, I'm working on like a website
because I do a lot of likeI do a lot of tour journal stuff
and I want to have like awebsite. We're gonna put it all on
there. I'm just sure procrastinates sofor the moment, Yeah, Jeremy Radio
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on Instagram is where I most atgo. Yeah, thousand Dollars Movies on
there as well, spelled out justyou know like that. And Forefinger Records
is also on the Instagram. Butbut yeah, I post kind of about
all my little avenues on there,and once I have the website, I'll
be talking about that to you.Awesome, So yeah, you keep up
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with all my assorted projects and liketour journals and stuff like that on there.
No, that's great, that's great. We'll make sure to plug o
that. But yeah, man,thank you so much for taking the time
today to talk to me about Centralav and thousand Dollars movie and everything else
that you're doing. It's just it'sit's awesome to kind of accidentally run into
you and and I'm glad that we'vebeen able to connect here, and it's
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just it's so good to hear youknow, you succeeding as as an artist
and a musician on your own andexpanding and being creative in all the ways
that you are. And I can'twish you all but all the success going
forward and hope to stay in touch. Yeah. Absolutely, it is really
really great yammering with you, andyou know, thanks so much for having
me on and checking us out.It really means a lot you bet Man
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trows Beside Breakdown all right, andthat wraps up another episode of the B
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Side Breakdown. I want to thankJeremy Radio from One Thousand Dollars Movie for
coming along to talk about their songCentral Av. I also want to thank
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Three tros B Side Breakdown. Heyeveryone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown.
My name is Brett Johnson and I'myour host. This is episode eighteen
of a podcast where I talk withother artists, musicians, and songwriters about
a piece of music they've written that'smeaningful to them that they can give me
permission to play in its entirety onthis episode, and then we have a
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chat and get deep into the whybehind it. Today I'm gonna be talking
with Jeremy Radio from the band ThousandDollars Movie about their song Central AV.
So let's get into it. Hereis Central AV by one thousand dollars movie
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about all right, and that wasCentral AV Bye thousand Dollars movie. We're
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gonna take a quick break and we'llbe right back with Jeremy Radio. Stay
with us, all right, andwe're back. So let's bring in Jeremy
Radio and talk about the song CentralAV Bye thousand Dollars movie. Hey,
Jeremy, thank you so much fortaking some time today to talk to me
about Central AV. Yeah, man, still to be a board, Thank
you. And listening to the toCentral Avenue. I've listened to it a
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bunch of times and I it's justgot a really cool vibe to it,
and I you know, it's funny. There's Central Avenue in Minneapolis where I
grew up, and so I'm listeningto it and I'm just kind of it
brings back visions of that for me, just kind of on a regular sort
of city day. But you know, regardless of my interpretation, I'd love
to hear about about Central Aba andkind of what's going on with that and
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the purpose behind it or the creationbehind it, or the thoughts behind it.
Yeah, well that's really cool tohear because I so Central abs a
part of this record we put outcalled Give Me a Year, And you
know, it's kind of Mike WattsMike Hero and I think he calls them
operas instead of concept albums. Surea little bit. There are all little
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pieces of a big story. Buta lot of the songs on the album
are named after neighborhoods or streets inCharlotte. But I love hearing you know
what other people think about when theyhear it. You know, cats from
Charlotte would be like, oh man, that totally reminds me of that neighborhood,
you know, which is cool.But here that oh yeah. There's
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a central avenue in Minneapolis also,and it made you think of a year
street, you know, but it'sa central avenue here in Charlotte is I
guess very specifically it connects you tothe Plaza Midwood neighborhood, which is kind
of like has always been the gritty, cool district with like the rad dive
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bars and venues. You definitely wouldlike watch your back on your way back
to your car, familiar with thatneighborhood. Every city's got one, Oh
yeah, absolutely, and you know, you know you're getting closed because every
suddenly every phone pole is covered inflyers and stickers. You know, every
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every city's got that hood. Butuh, I think much like every other
city, it's getting gentrified like crazy. Charlotte's growing insane right now, and
so you know, it's a it'schanging a lot, and it's still rad.
There's still thankfully some remnants, youknow, some two of the my
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favorite venues in town to play outher there, and they thankfully made it
through COVID and all this, allthese other spots getting pushed out by the
landlords. So yeah, still somecool stuff there, but it's so much
construction around there is so much,uh, lofts and breweries going everywhere on
top of it. And so whenI was writing this record, because we're
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mostly like you know, it's it'sa punk rock song, and we don't
have any songs like that, eventhough that's all listen to, but we're
more of like a shoe guys band, and had an idea for for,
you know, for the record tohave, like, man, I feel
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like the Central Avenue song because Ikind of started with the Bridge on it,
which is like, you know,very like nostalgic kind of heartbreaker,
yep. But I wanted I wasthinking like, oh, we could have
these like big hits that might kindof like signify like everything being steamrolled and
blown up and torn down. Youknow. I wanted to kind of have
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this feeling of like destruction a littlebit where so that happens a few times
in the song the big hits,but then the Bridge and then the Ultra.
I just really wanted to get thisfeeling of like like remorse or like
nostalgia maybe, like because it ischanging so much and you know, and
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I think there's lots of ways toreact to that in our cities, when
beloved neighborhoods change, but the bestway is like, hey, yeah,
we had some good times there,but like there's still it's changing, but
it's still there. So like,let's not wait until Snug Harbor and Petras
like the great venues there. Let'snot wait until they close to do some
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Instagram memorial post about them, likelet's support them now, you know,
like sure, like yeah, I'dmourned for the good old days, but
it's still there's still rad stuff goingon, so let's let's support it while
we can instead of like you know, and then that brings up a deeper
conversation too. I think of likewhich this record really hit for me,
is you know, let's not justwait until you know people are gone to
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say how stoked we are on them, or let's not wait till that record
store closes to do that little postto be like, oh man, it's
so sad that they're gone. It'slike, yeah, it's not how much
you like them while they're there sothey can stay open, you know,
totally agreed. No, it's that'sso perfect and and I love the way
that you said that. Just thethe part about nostalgia when listening to it,
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like there's a bit of right,I mean at the end, like
the tail end, I'm like,ah, Like, I mean, a
part of me is so short.I want it to be longer, and
I want it to be more.I want more, which kind of creates
that sort of that longing nostalgia partof it, I think for me as
well. But I totally relate towhat you're saying. And man, I've
experienced that so many times, particularlyin Minneapolis, there was We've seen so
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many venues and the landscape of theareas that were the spots to be in
change so significantly, And like yousaid, yeah, I mean, if
I have to see another craft breweryor street taco stand, I'm gonna,
you know, sort of throw upa little bit. But I think the
with that and all the lofts thatcome in, and it's just sort of
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to me, it's really ruined theintegrity of this stuff we're talking about.
But to your point, it's like, well, yeah, but it's not
all gone. There is still ascene happening. It's just now sort of
shifted and moved to different areas orto newer venues that have popped up.
Even though the old favorite classic,you know, I mean, there's a
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spot in Minneapolis that I loved.The guys. There was a punk band
for Minneapolis called Dillinger four and theyopened a club right so the trip rock
so close. I was sad forall to hear that. Yeah, right,
So it's it's one of those that'sa great example of one where you're
like ah, man. And theUptown Bar was another one in Minneapolis that
I loved, right on Lincoln Hennepenand they close down and turn into like
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an Apple store or a Columbia store, and I'm like, fuck man,
Like it was. It was sucha bummer for me because I mean,
like Spinal Tap toured and played there. I mean I saw Tumble Wumba there
twenty years ago before they're you know, top thumping hit. But it's just
like you know, you'd see allkinds of crazy interesting bands play there,
and I've played there a million timesmyself, and it's like to see those
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things disappear, It's like you're seeingthis element of your scene and kind of
your history go away, and it'shard to It's like you said, though,
I mean, I'm grateful now thatwe have the social media, like
to your point of of like kindof that nostalgia page for this record store
that's still happening, Like, let'sdo something cool for it now, because
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in two thousand and five it wasthere was no thing to do about it,
you know what I mean, Like, but now, you know,
with that kind of current technology,that's such a great idea. Just yes,
I mean, embrace and love thethings you love and keep them alive
as long as we can, youknow. I mean it's like, what's
the present day equivalent to the tothe Instagram eulogies? You know? Is
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it just like gratitude for the thingsaround you, like sharing it, talking
about it, you know, Andthat can seem cheesy, but it's like,
yeah, I don't want to waitfor my favorite burger place to close
down before, you know, Italk about how great it was, yeah,
or to that, you know.I don't know if you listen to
like the whole record, but theuh, the last song is really about
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a friend of ours, but buddyLarry, who were in bands together and
toured hard for like ten years andright before when in the studio he passed
away. He got sick with COVIDand some other complications and you know,
and it was it just really hitme with that it's like, man,
like, you know, I'm prettygood about telling my friends I care about
him and not sure, you know, a big wake up too of like,
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you know, he was my age. He was like, we did
have the same lifestyle. We toreour brains out. All we did was
play clothes and and you know,it sucks to think, like, you
know, you don't want to waituntil they're not there anymore to like say,
like, dude, you're awesome.You know, I like, I'll
love playing music. Yeah, becauseeverybody said all the sweet things. He
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was gone rightfully, so you know, but I'm like, man, I
wish everybody would have told him allthis stuff while he was around. He
probably would have loved to hear it, you know. Yeah, I know,
I appreciate you sharing that, andI'm sorry for the loss of your
friend. Yeah, because I meanin you know, I guess to echo
that we recently did. I waspart of an independent record label in Minneapolis
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called Blueworm Records that started in thelate nineties, and and there was a
lot of bands and a lot ofcamaraderie and scene stuff that happened kind of
as a result of that, andwe had a twenty fifth anniversary show a
couple of years ago at a differentvenue in Minneapolis that's fairly new to Minneapolis,
you know, so it wasn't oneof the old haunts that we used
to actually play, but it wasone of those opportunities whereas it really felt
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like, I mean, as ifI could have a meaningful high school reunion
that sort of felt like it,you know what I mean. It was
just one of those this whole scenekind of came back together to celebrate kind
of several bands and all these friendshipsand reconnections and stuff, and it was
so important to all of us thatwere able to participate in it, and
it echoes exactly. I think thepoint you're making, like I couldn't.
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I can't support that enough that yes, do those things now, way you
can, you know what I mean, don't wait till it's too late.
Yeah, exactly. No, that'sthat's awesome to hear. So Admittedly,
no, I'm embarrassed to say I'venot listened to the entire record yet,
but I pinky swear I will,and I look forward to listening to it
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in kind of continuity from beginning toend, so I can kind of get
that whole trajectory and intention of itwith it. But yeah, I think
it's the cool piece. I'm reallyproud of it because I mean it really
like, you know, the wholething is I guess at the end of
the day about like being a scaredlittle kid move into a city, trying
to join a band, and thenbefore you know it, you're like the
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old guy sitting at the bar.You know. Yeah, you know,
because that was That's my story,and I hear I think whether it's Charlotte
or Chicago or l A, alot of musicians have done that. I
think you kind of relate to it, you know for sure, yep,
most definitely. So I mean withthat, i'd love to hear more about
I mean you and in your experience, but also how did one thousand Dollars
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movie come together? Like how longhas the band been a band? Yeah?
So we played our first show inDecember of twenty eighteen and it kind
of started. I have a goodfriend, Jesse Proctor out of Seattle.
It's a familiar name. Yeah,he's just one of those guys that kind
of makes you sick. Always goodat like literally every instrument. You know,
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I'm like, sure, I'm abase man, and that's all I've
played since I was twelve. Andyeah, he's just like amazing at everything.
But he I do a lot ofhigher gun like bass work, like
in the studio and touring with differentartists, and so we kind of met
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doing that stuff, and so wewould just send riffs back and forth,
and I think we kind of hada thought like maybe, like, let's
just try to write some songs maybewe could use for like licensing or something.
And they just kept getting there weremore like a little left to center
and not really you know, ifyou're going that route, you got to
write some black keys kind of stuff. But after we had kind of a
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couple of like songs together, Iwas like, hey, man, because
he's out in Seattle, you know, like I said, So I was
like, man, I'm thinking aboutputting together like a local thing here because
I love this. I think thiswould be a rad band, you know,
I want to play shows with it. And so, you know,
he he gave it his blessing,and but we did the DP mostly me
and him, just sending stuff backand forth. But yeah, then I
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put a crew together here and westarted started playing shows in December of twenty
eighteen. I'll quote him often,but you know, I'm a big Mike
wat guy, and he always sayseverything is either gigs or flyers, you
know, right, yeah, Soto me, like, yeah, the
gig has always been the most importantthing, and putting out the record,
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a music video, you know,all that other stuff is just flyers to
maybe get people to the gig.So sure, you know, once I
had a batch of songs, I'mlike, okay, like I want to
really, I just want to playa ton of shows. And it's been
so fun. Like I've been I'vebeen touring for twenty years in different bands,
but I've been playing a band sinceyou know, I was twelve and
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I'm thirty nine now, and itreally has been one of my favorite projects
I've ever done, which I saythat not at a bragu way, but
like I was, I wouldn't haveexpected it, you know, because it's
like instrumental shoegay zy, very basedriven, and so yeah, it's it's
done pretty well on a local level, and we've done a few East Coast
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tours and yeah, good turnouts andwe're just having a blast with it,
like it's so fun. Obviously,COVID shutdowns everything slowed down a good bit.
We put out some singles, butuh, yeah November we just did
a week and a half ish tourand and yeah it was it was our
October. Actually it was a itwas a blast, had a great time.
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And yeah we're working on the newone now and we've got the studio
rented out in like two weeks.I think, oh wow, okay,
so about the follow this one up? So yeah, that's kind of that's
my movie. The lineups changed alittle bit, but it's friends come and
go, you know, everybody keepshaving babies and getting it shows, you
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know, but you light up.For the record was my friend Zach Looper
and Leo so Lease on guitar andDom Gerald's on drums, and everybody kind
of contributed with the writing. Sowe really went into the studio for that
one with just some basic ideas andI really kind of wanted to figure it
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out like together, and I waslike I got riffs, like and it
kind of everybody brought in some ideas, but we're like, let's just try
to like get on the floor andlike jamp we recorded it all live on
the floor together. But we're like, let's kind of just like kind of
see where these songs go. Becausewe all have been playing together for so
(17:36):
long. I know we could kindof improve a little, but you know,
and it's like and it might suckand we'll waste all our studio time
trying to get another way. Butwe didn't do a lot of preprif for
it, and so yeah, itreally turned out pre rat So I think
we're going to try the same thingwith the next one, Like, let's
just have some rough ideas and seewhat happens, not like a jam band
(17:59):
because we're not nerds, but youknow, some cool ideas in the moment.
Yeah. Yeah, that's kind ofthe basic TD in you know,
overview for Suure. So then andagain you're saying the cast of characters may
have changed a bit. So isit the same group going into the studio
this time as it was last time? Yeah? Correct, Yeah, that's
been kind of the main lineup forthe last year and a half. Okay,
(18:22):
cool, all right, good,No, that's great, and so
so are the rest of the players. Are all those guys just local Charlotte
folks from this Charlotte music scene thatyou've known for how long and just kind
of grab the people, you know, and make it work. Yeah,
exactly. And Leo Solis, whoworks guitar. He me and him in
twenty fifteen or sixty and we starteda local label called four Finger Records,
(18:47):
and uh, just really kind ofthe way that Discord focuses on DC,
we just wanted to focus on Charlotte. You know. We put out a
few cassette tape compilations of just Charlottebands and you know, throw all a
lot of shows and showcases and stuff, and it's yeah, it's been a
blast. So me and him arekind of serial collaborators. Him and his
wife have a really amazing band calledSoles, very like kind of like poured
(19:11):
his head, you know, electroindie. Yeah, really really cool stuff.
So I play bass for them.Cool plays guitar in my band,
and so yeah, we kinda Wealso do a lot of recording work.
We have a little crew called theGigantic Recording Company. We do that together.
(19:32):
So yeah, he's just kind offor whether he loves it or likes
it or not, we're kind ofattached to the hip creatively at all times.
Yeah, yeah, no, that'sgreat. That's great. So then
what's again, what's the name ofthe other band that you're playing in with
him, So lease s O lI S and yeah, and it's on
all the all the streams and stuff. But yeah, yeah, really cool,
(19:56):
really cool band. But he's justhe's so good at just making vibe
and making walls of noise. Andthen Zak, the other guitar player,
is just so good at just likelaser executing really cool parts. You know.
The two of them together for aband like us is like really amazing
one two punch on guitars, youknow. So yeah, yeah, it's
(20:18):
a it's really good. Greer thenDom Gerald's drummer. Man, we've been
playing together for a long time andsure excuse me, so yeah, he
uh we we play with a lotof different light bands or a lot of
higher gun stuff together as well.So you know with rhythm section when you
(20:41):
get those guys that I feel likeme and him can start to just read
each other's minds, you know,yep, understand that totally. Yeah,
you know, So we do improva lot in this band where we're like,
we'll just stay on the section tilllike a cue everybody or something.
If if we start like making noiseand jamming and it's just having a drummer
like him makes it so awesome becauseI don't need to tell them when we
(21:04):
should go to the next part.We just yeah, we're really going to
read each other. So yeah,that's a really really great career, guys.
And we've just been playing together along time since we have I think
we have really good chemistry. No, it sounds like it. That's great.
And then yeah, and you canhear it in the song for sure,
and that's even you know, again, when did that come out?
(21:25):
So? When was that record released? February of this year? Oh,
February this year? Okay, gotit? And is that available? Where
can people get that? Is thaton band camp? Yeah? So you
can get it on a thousand hoursmovie band camp if you just pop that
in Google and uh, and thenyou know it's on all the streams and
stuff. If you go to fourFinger Records band camp, you can get
(21:47):
the cassette tape sweep and the secondpressing, which is exciting because I've never
had to repress anything like That's awesome. Congratulations. I have an attic full
of the old CDs. Oh man, I'm familiar with that too. You
have the garage just full of likeboxes of Yeah, I remember that record
from fifteen years ago. Okay,I don't think there's gonna be some resurgence.
I don't know what. Probably shouldrecycle it a little awesome. Well,
(22:12):
let's actually let's take a quick breakand then we'll come back and find
out more about what you're working onnext. And I'd love to hear more
about kind of the hired gun stuffyou're doing and anything else you're working on.
Cool, yeah, all right,cool, all right, everybody stay
with us. We'll be right back. All right, We're back with Jeremy
(22:33):
Radio from Thousand Dollars Movie. Jeremy, thank you so much for again taking
some time to talk with us aboutthe song Central Avenue and telling us more
about the band. I just wantto turn it back to you though,
and see is there anything else upand coming you want to talk about.
I know you have an upcoming recording, but is there anything else you're working
on and could be this band related, other bands related, not music related
at all. Just curious what elseyou're working on and you have coming up.
(22:56):
Yeah. So I'm I'm also prettyactive in another band called Crenshaw Pentecostal.
It's like a very replacements influenced,kind of all country band, so
it's super fun, just like rockand roll. So we've got a few
singles out on all the streams andstuff, and uh so we're we're going
(23:22):
to the studio in like a weekto do another single. Actually, so
we played three or four shows amonth, so we're always we're always out
there jamming if famby is interested,if you follow, I'm Jeremy Radio and
all the Instagram stuff, and I'malways posting about those gigs. But uh
so, yeah, we got wegot some stuff come up. But it's
been a it's been a blast.The guitar player in that band, Dusty
(23:44):
Redman, was in a band calledBeloved back in the day, kind of
pretty similar, kind of indie hardcoreband in the early two thousands, and
I used to drive like hours togo see Beloved play. So we've got
to become friends over the years,and it's really cool to be in a
band with him. Also, youknow nice, Yeah, but it's it's
really fun rock and roll. Soyeah, we got some we'll have some
(24:08):
perpetually playing around Charlotte and Carolina,but some new music coming out soon.
And then I mentioned Gigantic recording company. So that's we do it all kind
of mostly like via the internet,Like artists send us a demo to a
click and we play everything. Youknow. They kind of sell us what
(24:30):
music direction they want and we dobass, drums, guitar keys, send
it back to them, make anychanges. Once they approve it, they
record their vocals, we mix somemaster it, and you have a song
and we at a necessity during COVID, you know, we're all stuck at
home and yeah, you know,twenty nineteen, I think I did one
hundred and eighty shows and in Idid one and so you know, just
(24:56):
try other ways to keep the lightson. And so we've ended up kind
of we've been doing it since,you know, twenty twenty, and it's
it's been going really well. Wemeet a lot of cool people, and
you know, we've had clients thatare like stay at home moms that never
thought they could put out a song, and they just have this song idea
(25:18):
and now they've got this like radfinished song or two. And then they
start to meet musicians and can showthem like, oh okay, well this
is the sound. And then theyput a band together and now they're playing
shows and doing music videos and that'svery amazing. Yeah, right, Like
it's really cool. It kind ofgives people permission to like, maybe it's
intimidate you just move to a newcity and you haven't met a band yet,
(25:40):
you know, but you got thesesong ideas. Yeah, it's been
really cool. And so we're aboutto start doing another thing with that where
there's kind of this new technology towhere you can actually almost like zoom,
be watching my screen while I'm recordingin like logic or whatever, so like
(26:00):
you could be involved in me recordingon your song in real time and be
like, oh, actually, whatif you tried it more like this?
You know, Yeah, I forgetwhat it's called. But we're kind of
learning that right now and kind ofour next little phases we're gonna start offering
that, which is pretty exciting,you know, like little you can book
(26:21):
a thirty minute forty five minute sessionand with a drummer and you can actually
be across the world and kind ofbe in the session with him. So
pretty cool, just like learning aboutall that stuff more. Because I'm not
like a studio nerd. I'm aI'm a song and dance man. I
want to be on stage. Yep, yep. But it's been fun kind
(26:41):
of learning all that more and actuallybeing more confident as a studio player too,
you know. So yeah, anyway, so Gigantic's kind of working on
that whole, like learning all thatnew stuff and kind of chasing that rabbit
hole. You know. Yeah,tell me one more time. What's the
name of that Gigantic What Gigantic Recordingcompany? And is that you are all
as well dot com as Yeah,it's suck Gigantic dot com s up such
(27:06):
gigantic dot com. That's great.I'll make sure to include that, man,
because that's that's such a cool thingyou're doing, and it's so creative
and such a great way to toyeah, to keep active and to keep
doing stuff and to keep you know, kind of community alive during COVID and
all of that. But also justjust that example you gave, it's so
cool to hear, like, Yeah, someone who's never forad in the songwriting
(27:30):
necessarily on their own, or hasn'trecorded anything or got out there, now
all of a sudden, Wow,they kind of have permission to have a
voice to go do it, justbecause you're able to help facilitate that for
them like that is that is awesome, like good for you guys, so
good that you're doing that. Youknow, it's cool because like I sell
the time like for me, likeI think with any creative endeavor you need
(27:51):
permission, like if you grew upin a house without you know, I
got a lot of friends I grewup with, like musician and art artists
parents, and so it was alwaysa no brain to them that you could
do it. You know. SureI did not grow up in that situation,
and you know, at least likefull time anyway. And he's like
my dad played guitar a little bit, but I never can make a living
(28:12):
from it. Or I thought maybeyou just had to be like you won
the lottery and that's how you gotto go on tour and have this cool
life. But you know, andthen I'm eleven and I hear the Descendants,
Yeah, song about coffee, andI, oh, you can write
a song about anything. You don'thave to be this deep brooding poet,
you know. And so I gota base for Christmas that year, and
(28:33):
I started a band, you know, and like punk rock gave me permission
that like anybody can do this,you know, And I think it's still
to this day. Even though allthe technology is there and there's all these
examples of people just like starting bandsand stuff, I still think sometimes people
just need the little permission, andI think showing them how easy it is
(28:55):
to write and put out music orrecord and put out music is sometimes I
think for some of these cats,that kind of gave him the go ahead.
And I'm really happy if that's thecase, you know, yeah,
yeah, absolutely absolutely. I meanright, and I look back at I
mean to age myself, you know, to go back to to have the
technology that's available now, and ifI had that when I was eleven,
(29:17):
like, oh my goodness, youknow, I just can't imagine like how
much creativity would have been captured andrecorded and let's go do, let's go,
let's go, let's go. BecauseI mean, I grew up in
a similar household where no, myparents didn't play music. I think my
they sort of did, but likenot as like a primary passion or a
career focus in any level. Andso there's always the what's your plan B,
(29:38):
what's your planning B? What's yourplan B? You know, even
for me just as a trying tohustle it you know, making music a
thing and and so and getting outof that mindset is really challenging for a
lot of people. And I knowit's really hard to I can't mean,
I can only speak for my experience, but it was hard for me to
to also commit to the rink ofnot having a SETI paycheck, you know
(30:02):
what I mean, and doing thosethings that you got to do, like
to hustle and survive as a musician. And I was able to do that
for a handful of years, andthen I was like, yeah, you
know, medical insurance is valuable forme and I kind of need to have
it. So it's like it's oneof those I ended up having to make
some trade offs in for myself inlife just to still be able to how
(30:22):
do I navigate and explore and pursueall of my passions creatively but then still
be able to do what I needto do. And even with the technology
and the advances and everything that's changedthat you were just even speaking to,
like that enables all of that too, where it's not like, no,
I don't have to be in apractice space four nights a week like I
used to be and grinding it outwith these same three dudes, because that's
the only way we're going to getanything completed. And then go into that
(30:45):
analog studio and record on two inchtape and do all of that. It's
like, it's so now right.I mean, yeah, I'm at home
with my you know, microphone,my head rush and an interface and I
can record on my computer, youknow what I mean. And it's just
so beautiful to have that. Andalso from the file sharing nature of recording,
because similar to what you're talking about. I mean I did very similar
stuff, wrote records with people inArizona and Minnesota while I'm in South Carolina,
(31:10):
and it's just you know, filesharing and making it happen and getting
it together and just that's it's wonderfulthat we have the ability to do that.
No, it's really wild because Imean, you know, like I
said, I started. I'm surewe were awful, but started bands right
away when I was like twelve andthirteen and know how to record, Like,
you know, we would maybe havethe cool older cousins say, oh,
(31:30):
you gotta get a four chat recordera little taskcam cassette. Yeah,
And so we went and got one. But like I couldn't figure it out.
There's no YouTube. I didn't knowwhat the heck I was do.
Sure, Like in some ways Iwish there was more evidence of my early
bands. But also I'm kind ofequally glad YouTube wasn't a thing or I
might have some embarrassing videos. Ohyeah, yeah, no, is that
(31:51):
is true too? Yes, butlike, yeah, it's so cool.
How you know, if you getsomeone to give you the go ahead,
like you can jump right in andlike, you know, most people's laptops
already have garage band on it,already have a pretty good recording software,
you know, and so yeah,it's it is cool how you can have
(32:14):
all the tools in prendy. Butstill yeah, like it's you know you
might need that, but yeah,you can do it, man, Just
go do it. Just put itout, you know, right, give
it a shot. What's the worstthing is going to happen? I mean,
pay a few bucks and it's onSpotify, like there it is.
Anyone can go listen to it aroundthe world. Like put it out.
iTunes was first a thing. Itwas really hard to get your stuff on
(32:35):
it. Yeah, right, youknow, now you can have it up
in twenty four hours exactly. Butno, the same for me, Like
I I didn't know. I knewyou could go on tour, but I
didn't know you could ever make moneyfrom it. And so I thought,
you know, you don't grow upin the nineties and see it all these
like every punk man had a songabout laugh on the road, and I
(32:57):
just thought it was the coolest thing, and that's all I've ever wanted to
do. But I thought, like, Okay, I got to go to
college and make some money and thenyou save up and you can go on
tour with your band. I guessthat's how they do it. And after
probably not I'm up into college,I was like, screw this and Charlotte
get in the van. Yeah exactly, Yeah. I read that about once
(33:20):
a year Charlotte, and I wasjust like, I'm just gonna try to
join a band here so I cango on tour. I met some cool
musicians up here. And I'm fromHartsville, South Carolina originally, but and
so I moved to Charlotte when Iwas eighteen or nineteen too, and a
year or two later, I wasdoing my first tour and it was the
(33:44):
you know, it was pretty brutal, but it was still like it got
the hooks in me and it wasjust the coolest thing on the planet.
I loved it so much. Ihear, you're a desert getting three flat
tires and like hungry and no acdriving from LA to Dallas, and I
was just like a golden retriever.I was loving every second of it.
(34:05):
I I resembled that story. Wethere's a there's an ongoing joke of we
were driving. We had a nineteeneighty Ford Chateau super Wagon that was this
massive van with two gas tanks,no air conditioning, and we're touring in
the middle of August and we're goingfrom San Antonio, Texas to San Diego
and uh, well ultimately but likewe're stopping in you know, Albuquerque,
(34:28):
Phoenix along the way, and uhthere's this joke that I one of my
guitar players would say, is like, yeah, you know, Brett,
you're just holding like your your coffeecup outside the window to reheat it while
we're driving. You know what Imean. It's just like it's just brutal,
but at the same time all underwear. Yeah, right, it says
doing what you can do to getthere and make it happen. But it
was great. But yeah. Imean I remember, for me, the
(34:51):
the golden moment was when I realized, oh my god, we just want
to tour and broke even like wedidn't lose money, like that is incredible,
you know, and that for mewas such a huge milestone. But
then, just like you were sayingearlier, I mean earlier in the episode
about you know, yeah, thenpeople start you know, having kids and
getting mortgages and getting married and movingon and doing other things. And then
(35:12):
unfortunately kind of all that started happeningwith a lot of people in the scene
that I was in, and soa lot of the players that I would
that are ready and hungry to goon tour when you're twenty one or now
twenty eight, twenty nine, andit's like, well they're doing different stuff,
and so it was just an inchof the beast. But it was
awesome to be able to do it. And I'm so grateful that I've been
able to tour that I in theways that I have, you know totally,
and I know I'll have friends thatare like thirty one or thirty two,
(35:35):
and like, man, I reallywant to like get the touring,
Like you have any advice, I'mlike, yeah, I mean, the
only way I know how to getinto it is, you know, I
was like literally sleeping on a couchat my friend's house. I had no
rent. I think I had onehundred dollars in my bank account, right.
I was like, you know,I was dumpster diving a lot of
the time. And to me,it was like, well, I could
be poor at home, or Icould be poor on the road and see
(35:58):
the whole country, you know.And so I wasn't getting paid because it's
like, you know, you mightget free pizza at the club, maybe
a free beer, which felt likewinning the lottery, you know, and
it was just like, man,I loved every second of it, and
I still do, you know,thankfully. I was in a band called
Public Radio for most of my twenties, and we hit it really hard and
(36:20):
did like we were doing all theLA showcase thing and major label crap and
which was awful but got some funnystories out of it. But but you
know, by the end of that, I think that man started to fizzle
out. But I started to meetpeople that hey, we got this artist
two months tour, we can payyou this much. I'm like, oh,
(36:42):
okay, you know, and itstarted you know, a lot more
of those opportunities started coming along towhere I was touring. But I wasn't
like my band, and sometimes themusic was cool, sometimes it wasn't.
But I was getting to play likethese massive venues and I just had to
show up and play. I didn'thave to do any interviews, the photo
shoots or the you know. Itwas like cool, we leat it in
(37:04):
we soundcheck, like all right,be back by eight, you know,
and I'm in San Francisco and Iget to go like eat rat food and
it's like, oh, this isvery different than touring in a band and
like, you know, sleeping literallyon a sidewalk in Houston, Texas because
we had tour and co. Yeah. No, it most definitely is.
For most of my thirties, I'vebeen like some thirty nine. Now,
(37:25):
I've been doing a lot more atwork and and I I always have my
own band, and whenever I havea slower season, I can hit it
hard with my stuff. But that'sbeen kind of my main gig is doing
the Higher Gun tour thing, andI really, I really love it because,
like I said, I'm still Imeet these cats on tour and they're
doing these big tours and they're like, yeah, it's just a job.
(37:46):
I was like, man, like, that's crazy to me because I get
it, like you approach it likeit is sure, like take it seriously,
but it's the coolest job on theplanet. Man. Like we get
to like meet all these rad people, eat cool food, and like plate
shows every night, like it's there'sstill nothing better on the planet to be
And you know, and they're like, oh, is this like your first
(38:07):
year doing this. I'm like,no, I've been doing it for twenty
years now. Well cool man.I wanted to circle back again to find
out where then just kind of getback in wrapping up the Thousand Dollars movie
part and and how what's the bestway for everybody to get a hold of
you. Do you have like alink tree? Is it specifically just the
various band camps we talked about,or just follow you on Instagram or is
(38:30):
there a centralized spot that everybody shouldgo to kind of get all things Jeremy
Radio. Yeah, Instagram. Rightnow, I'm working on like a website
because I do a lot of likeI do a lot of tour journal stuff
and I want to have like awebsite. We're gonna put it all on
there. I'm just sure procrastinates sofor the moment, Yeah, Jeremy Radio
(38:51):
on Instagram is where I most atgo. Yeah, thousand Dollars Movies on
there as well, spelled out justyou know like that. And Forefinger Records
is also on the Instagram. Butbut yeah, I post kind of about
all my little avenues on there,and once I have the website, I'll
be talking about that to you.Awesome, So yeah, you keep up
(39:13):
with all my assorted projects and liketour journals and stuff like that on there.
No, that's great, that's great. We'll make sure to plug o
that. But yeah, man,thank you so much for taking the time
today to talk to me about Centralav and thousand Dollars movie and everything else
that you're doing. It's just it'sit's awesome to kind of accidentally run into
you and and I'm glad that we'vebeen able to connect here, and it's
(39:34):
just it's so good to hear youknow, you succeeding as as an artist
and a musician on your own andexpanding and being creative in all the ways
that you are. And I can'twish you all but all the success going
forward and hope to stay in touch. Yeah. Absolutely, it is really
really great yammering with you, andyou know, thanks so much for having
me on and checking us out.It really means a lot you bet Man
(39:55):
trows Beside Breakdown all right, andthat wraps up another episode of the B
(40:15):
Side Breakdown. I want to thankJeremy Radio from One Thousand Dollars Movie for
coming along to talk about their songCentral Av. I also want to thank
Carry Bosel and Adam Coolong for helpingme put together the jingle you hear at
the beginning and the end of thisepisode and the background you're listening to a
track called SF two, which comesfrom the legendary escape video Search for Animal
Chin. It's by the amb team, and thank you Paul Peralta for giving
(40:37):
me permission to play it up.Next, we have Tragedy Ghouls by the
band The Raging Nathan's. I'll giveyou a sample of that in a minute.
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