June 22, 2025 • 40 mins
Indoor Friends (Boston, MA) fuse confessional punk and melodic power-pop into something entirely their own, and nowhere is that more clear than in their latest single, psyayayduck
What starts as a lyrical spiral of emotional wreckage becomes a full-blown cathartic release—chaotic, catchy, and unexpectedly fun.
In this episode, the band breaks down the writing process behind psyayayduck and how they balance humor, heartbreak, and harmony in everything they do.
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What starts as a lyrical spiral of emotional wreckage becomes a full-blown cathartic release—chaotic, catchy, and unexpectedly fun.
In this episode, the band breaks down the writing process behind psyayayduck and how they balance humor, heartbreak, and harmony in everything they do.
Indoor Friends:
https://indoorfriendsma.bandcamp.com/
https://www.instagram.com/indoorfriendsma
Thank you for your continued support!
Brett Johnson
Host of B-Side Breakdown
https://www.instagram.com/bsidebreakdown
https://linktr.ee/bsidebreakdown
#IndoorFriends #Psyayayduck #bsidebreakdown #threecrowsclub #brettjamesjohnson #musicpodcast
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Three tros B Side Breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey everyone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown. My name
is Brett Johnson and I'm your host. This is episode
thirty five of a podcast where I talk with other artist,
musicians and songwriters about a song they've written that's meaningful
to them that they want to chat about and get
deep into the why behind it. Today, I'm gonna be
talking with the band Indoor Friends about their song Sayaya Duck.
I'm gonna be talking with Kat and Amanda. They hail
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from Boston, Massachusetts, and they gave me permission to play
the song in advance so you can hear it before
we have her chat. So let's get into it. Here
is Sayaya Duck by Indoor Friends.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Shown my therapist a song I did and she told
me I was talent sed I said, thanks, I wrote
it when I was depressed. Are you proud of meschiatry
to change my meds? And they just upped my dosage instead?
(01:05):
I said thanks. I knew I could count on you.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Trust me. I'm a doctor.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Say it gets worse before it gets better. It's the
glasses sumple? Does it actually matter?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And what does it kill you? Just makes you sadder,
so through it.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I'll just play video games. My poking moud like me better. Anyway.
I'd rather play Mariocarl to think about the breakdown undorway.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So my friends that I always feel blue and then
I don't know what to do, and they replied, ha
ha ha ha same.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Now here's a billy's the same is worse?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Ifory gets better, if the glass sample does it actually matter?
And what does it kill?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You? Just makes you.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Sadder, so bruin.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
I'll just play video games. My Pokemon like need better. Anyway.
I'd rather play mariocardin the dankabout the breakdown under way.
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I am a champion.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
On my.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Funny reality. I couldn't even write and enter this bridge,
so screw it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'll just play again.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
I'm like me dad, anyway, I gonna play Mario O'Connor.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
The data about the brain down under it.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
All right?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And that was say yaya duck by indoor friends. We're
gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come back
with Kat and Amanda to chat about the song and
the band.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
Indoor friends, so stay with us.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We'll be right back, all right, and we're back. Let's
bring in Kat and Amanda from Indoor Friends to talk
about the song say Yaya Duck and to find out
what's going on with them. Hey, kat Amanda, thank you
so much for taking some time today to chat with
me about the song.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, thank you for having us. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You bet that you reached out and love that you
signed up to do an episode. It's such a fun
song and you know, just been digging in and learning
more about you all as a band and that you
hail from Boston.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Uh, yeah, we are based in Boston, but none of
us are like from here.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Oh that's perfect, right, so awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, before we get into all that, tell me about
tell me about the song and why specifically you wanted
to talk about this one.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Sure, do you want me to go first? Yeah? All right, cool.
So I think the song's pretty like as like goofy
as it is in a lot of ways. It's kind
of meaningful to us as a band because it really
feels like the first song we like fully workshopped before
recording our first EP that we put out. We kinda
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we were just moving so fast. We just wanted music
out in the world and like, hey, we need people
to be able to look us up and hear things,
So we were like writing like crazy and probably not
putting songs through their paces as much as we would
have liked. So when we got kind of when we
were finished with that, we started writing this song and
it was it was nice because it's just like we've
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played it for live for two years, so that's been
kind of fun to kind of see people's reactions, what's working,
what's not working. So I think like it's kind of
felt like a turning point for our band in that
way that we're like, you know, workshopping things live, seeing
what works what doesn't. So I think that's why it's
kind of important to the band, and then for me personally,
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this has just been a It's been a really fun
song to write with Amanda. We didn't get to write
a lot of songs just the two of us on
the EP, so I had a lot of fun like
working on it together. I think like something that I
like about it is that we kind of set out
to write something that wasn't maybe as heavy as the
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as our EP was, and as this song has evolved
in like over time, looking back on it, I'm like, oh,
it actually kind of has a lot more meaning than
we may be intended for it to have. So that's
been kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
No, that's that's awesome. I mean I love the playful
is right. I mean, there's like this playful, silly sort
of vibe, like not silly, like it's silly, but like, yeah,
don't exactly take ourselves completely seriously. But at the same
time that that's not a lack of seriousness to the
content of it. I mean, to me, it's there's also
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kind of a deeper thread of sounds like you're talking
about some kind of dark stuff and we just you know,
deal with let's just play video games, you know.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
Yeah, yeah, I I am. I'm actually a music therapist,
so it can be hard for me not to write
about mental health. And I feel like I wanted to
when I was writing it. I wanted to challenge myself
to write something that yeah, wasn't sad, but also like
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kind of generally related, even if your struggles are different
than mine or you don't have mental illness. So I
know that, like, life can be really rough, and I
think the state of our mental health has a huge
impact on how we handle it. And I think something
that I touched on was like in the verses around
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even getting help can sometimes feel frustrating or disheartening, and
it makes like that detachment or escapism just that much
easier to do. Sure, And I also know on the
flip side of that, people talk a lot about how
unhealthy that is, like to doom scroll and spend your
time playing video games. But I wanted to kind of
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make a song that felt accepting of that, especially if
like you're struggling to just get by and stay alive.
Accepting however you manage to get through the day was
something I wanted to get across.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Absolutely no, and that really resonates with me on a
different level. I mean, for me, that's just kind of
the notion of I need to be gentle with myself
today and just give myself a break, like whatever that is.
And if that's doing that, you know, something that may
be self defeating in a context. If this is all
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I do three in or sixty five days a year, okay,
maybe I have to reevaluate that. But I think if
this is what I'm doing, like, well, hey, if it
works and it works for now and it gets me
through today, then maybe that's okay just as it is.
I mean, so I totally feel that, and I love
One of my favorite things that caught me is the
verse where they say it gets worse before it gets better.
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If the glass is half full, does it actually matter?
I love that line and what doesn't kill you just
makes you sadder?
Speaker 8 (08:57):
So great. I was like, wow, I canfulleve identify with that.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, when we were so much fun, we were kind
of as we were as we were writing it. We
we got through we were writing the verses, and uh,
we also kind of broke away from some of our
not necessarily bad habits, but maybe consistent writing habits that
we had. I know, Amanda tends to be very rhymy,
and as we were like getting in the verses, she
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was looking for a like fourth thing in each part
to rhyme, and I was like, it's actually just kind
of funnier if you just stop, like it's like you know.
So then we had people fill in. But when we
got to that that kind of pre chorus part that
you're talking about, we had the sake gets worse before
you get better, because we were like, oh, that's like
something people say to you all the time, and I'm like, well,
it's kind of funny if it's like as it's going
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they're almost like becoming more and more mixed metaphors and
just like you're losing touch of Like it's kind of
that feeling when people keep telling you, yeah, you know,
like just look on the right side, or like don't
worry about it. It's it's things will get better soon,
Like these sort of platitudes that people tend to to
throw your way when you're going through a really hard time.
And it's like when you're in the when you're struggling
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and you have to you know, if you're going through
a depression or you have to constant depression, it's hard.
It kind of all blurs together into these weird like
versions of what you're hearing from other people. So that's
cool that you like that. That's one of my favorite parts.
When we were writing that, we were both laughing pretty hard.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
Yeah, No, I love that whole approach. It's so good.
So is this just then? What's going on with this song?
Is it a single? Is it on.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Is it part of a record, or what's what's kind
of happening with it?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, so it's a single. We're working, we have another
single coming out. We're kind of we kind of move
faster than we can than we should. A lot of
the times we end up like always writing all these
things and we're like these should be singles and then
we're like, well, to what, and so we take a
step back. But we're definitely towards the end of the
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year we're gonna put out I think I think it's
gonna be a full length. It might end up just
being an EP, depending on what we feel fits. We
have a bunch of songs in the in the can
right now, but we have a single coming out in
probably a couple of weeks, so we're just waiting to
waiting to get that final mix back and put that
out there. But it's yeah, so it's the first music
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we've we've released in a while, so we're pretty we're
pretty excited. We kind of felt like, like I said,
we were like workshopping. It probably way too long to
be honest, Like playing in two years is like insane.
But as we were playing shows and people would always
get really excited about that song specifically, and we've had
people come up to us after the show and ask
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us like, oh, hey, how can I listen to that one?
Or like I really liked that specific song and telling
them that like we had, like at the time, no
plans to release it was was a little you know,
kind of felt like a bomber. So sure, it's really
nice to have it out there after all this time.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That is awesome, and so Ken, it looks like you
produced the song.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah. So we're lucky enough that in Boston we have
a space that I'm gonna plug for a second that
it's called the Record Co. It's a it's a nonprofit
space that makes basically it's like these beautiful studios that
they have at an extremely extremely affordable rate for just
to like make music accessible. I'm we we love them.
(12:31):
We I'm a like, you know, I engineer there now
and then so I we produced. I produced our EP
as well. But it's it's it's fun. It's hard when
you get close to the songs to be a sort
of a bit a little more, you know, take a
step back and think about what the song needs. I think, Uh,
(12:54):
this has also been an exercise for that or in
that for me, you know, try to work on like
taking you know, taking that step back and seeing what
suits the song rather than you know, I'm also the guitarist,
so it's like, you know, I could layer nine hundred
guitars in there, but the nine hundred stars. But so
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we recorded everything over at Record Co and then you know,
we send it off to We have a mixing engineer
up in Canada named Corey Bergerond. He is awesome and
he works quickly and effectively and delivers awesome work. So
he helps us out with all that. It's nice to
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like kind of after you work on a song for
so long, just to just to get it away from
I'm always like I got to get it away from me, sure,
get out of my own way.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
So yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And the self producing thing, I mean, I've done some
of that myself, and I know the hard part is
just getting to the point where I can call it done.
It's like, no, this is done, Like I have to
just be done, you know. Otherwise, like you said, right,
you can get into nine hundred different guitar parts, and
what if we did this, and then we could and
then it's like well wait, no, yeah, what serves the
song the best?
Speaker 8 (14:10):
And how do we make that the best?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
You know, totally and with the digital age, it's it's
totally worse because it's just like I sit there, you know, yeah, like,
oh I had I think I ended up one of
our songs on our EP. I had fifty takes of
like the same guitar part, and I'm showing the rest
of the band and they're like they all sound the same.
You're crazy. I'm like, no, you hear the string slide
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right there, and they're like, no, You're crazy. So yeah,
it's you can get really carried away. I'll try to
limit myself as best I can, but yeah, it's uh,
but it's fun too because you know, I think ultimately,
I do think that, like I know, I know what
I want for our music too, so like that vision
is still there, but at the end, I just need
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to get it away from me after a certain point,
just to to stop.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Yeah, miss for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And you know, one of the things that I learned
a long long time ago, and this is just sort
of a plug to an old friend of mine. I
recorded in bands way back when when I lived in
Minneapolis and at the at a studio that was run
by a guy named Tim Mack, and Tim would tell
us that, yeah, there's sort of three things in here.
(15:25):
He's like basically, uh, I think I forgot now, I
forget how he said it, but he's like, a one
is you know you made a mistake, two is your
bandmate knows you made a mistake, and a three is
an audience member knows you made a mistake.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Ones and twos don't count.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And I'm like, uh, okay, And so that helped me,
Like when I frame it through that lens, like that
helps me avoid the sometimes that that fifty take thing
where I'm like, yeah, okay, maybe I can just do
ten and cobble the best take together between them or something.
But I try to be mindful of that. That's then
sometimes is a very very hard thing for me to do.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah, totally, I think it's hard. It's hard for anyone,
and that's a really good way to look at it,
especially like live too, I've always all struggled with like
an our band, especially It's like I when we were
first playing, I'd been in many bands before, but I
always had this horrible like habit that I needed to
break out of of like when I made a mistake,
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I just would be look miserable on stage, like the
whole rest of the time, it's like bumming out the audience. Sure,
that's one of my old bandmates said that to me.
He's like, look, it's like it's okay now one He's like,
no one cares. He's like, you know, what they care
about is that you look miserable, and then they feel
miserable because you look miserable.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
So uh yeah, it's yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And I mean I went through that same exact dynamic, right,
and and I'm super familiar with that, and I got
to a point where I'm like, you know, now it's
just funny. It's like, well I train I train wrecked.
Sometimes I'll just raise my hand and my drummer will
start laughing at me, and I'm like, okay, you know.
Speaker 10 (16:54):
And I don't know if you've ever seen the bear,
but that like they rubbed their their chest when they
make a mistake in the kitchen. Oh okay, and I'll
do that even though I like after every song, I'm like,
oh man, that was like that's my little that was me,
that one was me, that that was went off off
the rails.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Those are just funny though, because even my drummer he'll
laugh at me, like visibly laughing at me on stage
when I screw it up and then we just both
have a laugh about it later. But it's like nobody
cares even if it's you know, you break. I don't know,
I just remember, oh, I don't know. It was when
I was really really young, and I thought that, you know,
Red Out Chili Peppers in the Mother's Milk Era was
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like the greatest band on the planet and Flee was
the best bass player in the world. And I was
so stoked to go see them at First Avenue and
I was just unbelievable at this all age show and.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Then watched him make a mistake and I just flipped out.
I'm like, oh my god, he's human, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
It was just like one of those moments where it
was like, Eh, he just didn't care.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's like, of course he doesn't care, but no, that's
super fun, So that's cool that you go ahead.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Oh no, I'm sorry. I was just going to say
that I forget words to all of our songs a lot,
and that's something that I used to fear really a
lot when we started our band, that my mind would
just blank. And now when that happens, I kind of
just laugh at myself or sometimes make up words.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, best way to handle it. Yeah, I think I
think that also the laughing thing. Honestly, when I'm in
the audience and somebody makes a mistake and they laugh,
I think it's like the greatest thing because I'm like,
it's like a joke with the audience because then they're like,
oh you I almost think they go, oh you know
that that wasn't how that should sound, so like they
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because I think my insecurity always came from, like especially
being a female guitarist. The thing, right, it's like every
band I'm in. I'm in all punk bands all growing up,
all high school, all of college, and it's like I
was usually the only woman in the band, and it's
like you you would put it, I would put it
in my mind that like everyone's just looking at you,
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waiting for you to mess up so they can be like, oh.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
They're just judging you.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, it's sort of a silly mindset because no one
is watching it. I mean, there probably are people doing that,
but like the majority of people just are there to
have a good time or just check out what you're
what you sound like, and decide if they like you.
And I think they're gonna have a lot better of
a time if you're not taking yourself so seriously and
for sure, like you realize, oh that was a mistake.
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Everyone knows that was a mistake. It was kind of funny, right,
So yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And there's this other thing that I found along the
way that also really helped me with that because I
used to like there was something the way you just
said that, like there, it's like it's a presentation and
we're deciding whether or not they like us or not.
And for me, I've tried so hard and it's taken
me a long time, but just to really get out
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of that and think of it, this is one giant
common experience. Like I'm not looking at it as you're
the audience and I'm the musician on a stage and
it's you consuming something.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
It's us in this.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Swirling room of energy and kind of give and take
and thing that's all happening, and it doesn't happen if
you're not here with me. So we're just doing this together.
It's just like you and I, you know, all three
of us having this.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Conversation right now. It's like, well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And to me, if if I approach it like that,
like I'm so grateful that that stage fright thing left me.
I'm just like, I'm just not fearful, Like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
It's like I just do my best. What do you do?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Totally, that's a really good way to look at it,
and honestly, like I think also, I was looking at
it that way because I wasn't really I think weirdly enough,
I wasn't like thinking of myself as a part of
like the community, like the music community. Like I was
kind of like, oh, I'm just like here, like and
other people are part of it and I'm not, and
they're like waiting for me to mess up. But like
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the more I felt a part of like our local
com I mean, we go to shows, coments. We love
to be a part of this community.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
I that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I could we always joke. It's like the Boston music
scene is very like, you know, it has its problems
like any scene. Sure, if other people point them out,
you get mad. It's like if someone picks on your
brother or something, and it's like, yeah, hey, I can
pick on them, but he's a good guy. Leave him alone.
You know, Like that's how we've had you know, that's
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how it feels when other people look at it. But
it's a really good community. There's so many people working
so hard to like make things better. And that's true.
I think pretty much anywhere you know, you always like
there are people trying to do good and so like,
when I started thinking of it more like I'm a
part of this, not just like someone showing up once
in a while, it really did. That also kind of
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helped me with like my stage right at least.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Sure, and I'm interested and not to devolve too far
into talking about other artists, I'm not trying to do that,
but I'm just curious since you're from Boston or you're
in Boston now not for Yeah, so our are the
do you play shows like the Middle East and things
like that?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
So, yeah, we put we played out pretty often. We
we mostly play at uh well are We're like we
joke that we're like the house band at this one
dive bar, the Silhouette up here, because the bartender one
time was just like I think I've heard you guys
play like six times in the last like four months.
But we're uh, we play a lot in the area.
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Our our drummer actually is in Portland, Maine, so he
drives two and a half hours each way to our shows.
But yeah, we're out quite a bit. We play at
the Jungle. We haven't played at the Middle East. That's
just has it just hasn't worked out that way. Sure,
we've had a couple of like off first to play
there interest in you know, it's it's honestly, it's really
(22:54):
tough with with our drummer. He's he's a I can't
believe he does what he does. To be honest, he
when he told us he was moving to Maine, we
were like, oh man, now we gotta go look for
a drum and he's like, so, I'm thinking I'll come
once a month down for practice. If we were all like,
what you're gonna still you're gonna commute to practice? Like,
but it makes you know, booking can be a little
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difficult with that, So that's kind of.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Why No, that makes that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
But there's a lot of cool spots that have opened
up kind of in the area as well, like uh
Faces in Malden is really cool and Deep Cuts in
Medford is a newer spot that's totally awesome. They're so
nice there and have great food and just a really nice,
really nice vibe. And uh, there's a couple of new
spots that just opened in Salem as well, moon Base
(23:43):
one I think is one of them, which is cool
because that one was opened by like a group of
uh like people that are in like a lot of
other bands in the area. So a lot of like
local people doing some really really nice stuff.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
No, that's great and so so anything now, so you okay,
So now how I love your your band camp description
of how your band came together?
Speaker 8 (24:08):
And I love it like through every sort of medium.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Possible, and I'm interested in So where y'all from? How'd
you end up in Boston? And yeah, tell me about that.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
Well. Me and ore Uke players Slash also singer uh Christa.
We're both from Maryland and we actually met in undergrad.
We were in an a cappella group together called Squaw Cappella.
Our mascot is a seagull. And I I had moved
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here because a bunch of my friends just decided that
they wanted to move to Boston and then they needed
a roommate and I decided to just go for it.
And then I I went back to school up here,
and not too long after I moved. Christa followed.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
And yeah, you guys, Oh got it, Okay, got it.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, So that's how they kind of got here from
New Jersey and I came up here for college. I
want to be you, and I just kind of stayed.
I mean I stayed for like, you know, found a job,
been here almost I don't even know. Sometimes it feels
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like too long. Sometimes it feels good, but it's yeah,
been here for a while. Our bassist Ben is from Connecticut.
He also he came up here for college and he
ended up getting a job at so we work at
the same company. So that's how we met. And then
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Matt are our drummer. He's originally from Maine. He moved
down here to Boston, the Boston area for a bit,
and he and I were in another band together previously,
and he and his girlfriend moved back up to me
wanted to be closer to their family, have a house,
you know, things you can do and in the Boston
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area too easily. Yeah, so yeah, that's how we kind
of all got here. We all everyone kind of met
mostly through me, like everyone knew me at the very least,
and then Krista knew Amanda as well. And everyone knew
Amanda threw me too, so we kind of, Uh, Matt
and I were kind of at the ending of our
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old band, the lead singer, Head was moving to Vermont,
and it just kind of didn't It was just at
the end of its time. So we played a cover
show all together, which was a little bit of a disaster.
Poured rain. It was an out of course it did
because it was outside. I said, there would be no
droughts if there were, if bands would just play outside
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all the time. But you know, like it was a
it was kind of a bit of a disaster. But
we all kind of were together and we were like, hey,
like let's uh, let's play a porch fest or do
something all together after this, and we kind of just
like kind of formed from there pretty naturally into being
this and then we before we knew it, we had
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our first show lined up. Before we had our first
show lined up, and we had like one song written.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Yeah, I'm familiar with that too.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah. It was one of my friends from Jersey, one
of my good friends. He was like, I'm coming up.
I have a show at Sammy's and Revere, which is
this kind of dive bar kind of place. Right on
the beach, which is a cool spot. And they were like, hey, like,
would you like would your band? I heard you're starting
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a new band, would you like to play? And it
was like two months out and I'm like, we have
one song? Like we we I was some of us
haven't even been in bands before, like this is a mess.
But it seemed like such a cool bill and I
was like, you know, it'll push us. Let's do it.
And so we said yes to it, and we wrote
a ton of music really fast, and we put out
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our first song right before that show, which was pretty
pretty crazy. We did all that within like four or
five months.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Got it so that and that's the is it all
missing or melting sorry reckon?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, So that was I Hate It Hear single? And
we wrote all the We wrote most of those songs
early that year, and then we kind of kept like
recording and we're like, oh, I don't know wherely any
of this is going. And then finally I was like,
let's just like make an EP like it feels right.
We all really wanted like, we wanted music out there
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so people could look us up and do all that stuff. Yeah,
you know, it felt right, and we were writing really quickly.
We were probably we I think we would all agree that,
like we're proud of that EP, but it would not
be how I would do it again, just because it's
just like we were writing songs so fast that people
were coming to me to like record their parts and
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had no idea what the rest of the song was
like really sounding like like they're like, oh, you totally
changed like every lyric. They were like I think our
drummer Matt one time we got like a mixed song
back and I sent it to everyone. He was just
like I didn't even know what this song really sounded
like because I was yelling into the talkback mic verse
(29:29):
like course you know bridge, and he's just like blindly like, okay, here's.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
A bridge here, it is here. It is so like
that good times.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
We uh yeah, so we did it. It was super
I mean in a lot of ways, it was super punk.
We did everything ourselves, you know, and that was really
fun and but yeah, it was a lot of stress
and a lot of it was a lot of people
in our groups like first time ever recording, so like
that was a lot of stress for me just trying
to be like, hey, so it it's not a one
and done kind of thing, like I know you're very talented,
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but it's not one and done. We gotta keep we
gotta keep doing a couple of takes here. So yeah,
we we wouldn't I would say we wouldn't do it
that way again, but yeah, that's how we we kind
of got that together. And then I think the stress
and all of that from that, we wrote SAYAI Duck
pretty like almost like a month after that EP came out,
and just that came out in like December of twenty
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twenty two. We wrote say I Duck like the next month.
I was like, all right, start working on the next thing, right,
And then we had a couple just different setbacks as
happens in life, and just took a really long time
for that song to come together, way more than you
would ever think listening to it. It's short, it's nothing complicated,
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but we had a lot of just back and forth
about how certain things should go. Is this part working,
is this part working? So we almost like over We
didn't overcook it, but we got close to it. I
think a couple of times, just because we played it
so long, like I sometimes I'm like, oh man, we
like played that song for like two years. That's crazy
(31:08):
to me, Like feel it just came out, you know. Yeah,
so it feels so long. But so we kind of
went in two very opposite directions. We had like quick
record everything as fast as you can and put it
out and just hope for the best. And then we
had like, let's like sit on this song for two
years and play it a bunch and see what people
think and what they like and what they don't like.
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So now we're trying to kind of meet in the
middle a little bit with the rest of this, with
the rest of what we're recording. Yeah, we've we had
like a nice little band zoom powow, just being like, hey,
you know, the not writing anything isn't really working either,
so we need something that's in between not writing very
often and writing you know, constantly, and recording before you
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know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So sure, No, it's cool to hear both kind of
those approaches that you took. And I'm grateful to hear
that it didn't get to be too long before you
recorded it, because I mean, I'm so familiar with that
where it's no, I'm just gonna kind of let this
one sort of permeate and I'll figure it out and
let it kind of grow and like we'll see what
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the song turns out to, and then all of a sudden,
it could be five years later and I'm like, yeah,
I never finished it, you know, and it's like, I'm
just glad you didn't do that, you know, I'm glad
that it's out, Like that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I have songs that have been through like four bands
at this point, oh right now.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Totally feel that, Totally feel that.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
We had one song one of the songs that I
ended up on our EP was like that where I
write a lot with actually with our drummer. He's like
my favorite person to write with instrumentally, which I think
is counterintuitive for a lot of people, but I love
working with drummers in general. But he's not a really
good year for like melody, and that's really helpful for me.
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But I remember giving him one of those songs that
was on the EP that was like from like three
bands ago, and I'm like, what is this, what do
with this? Like fix it? And he just you know,
he changed up a bunch of things. But yeah, things
go through so much change, like over time, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Sure does well with that.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Is there anything else specifically about the song you want
to talk about or something we didn't touch on that
you wanted to mention?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Not I don't, I guess. I mean one thing I
would maybe want to talk about is the cover art
for it is Please Seam. That is going to be continuing,
which my whole life. Have a lot of things that
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happen in this band are because I like have these
weird things I've wanted to do for really long amounts
of time, and then I just tell everyone we're doing it,
and they're like cool, Everyone's really receptive, which is nice.
But we kind of went with this, like I spy
kind of vibe with it of like hide a bunch
of things in the cover art and different references from
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things in our band. So that's going to be like
a theme that we're we're kind of working on. So
that's been been pretty fun, just like collecting different miniatures
and work out what like the different scenes are for
different songs and how things go.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh that's cool, and I'm looking at it right now
and it's yeah, it's super fun.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
It's a great cover.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'll make sure that that's in the social post. So
everybody else can see it too, so when they're listening
to the episode, they can flip through Instagram and go, oh,
that's the that's the park.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Now that's great. Well let's do this.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back
and find out what y'all are working on next and
where people can get a hold of you it does
that work? Yeah, that's cool, all right, hanksad everyone, We'll
be right back. All right, and we are back with
Kat and Amanda from Indoor Friends talking about the song.
I'm gonna say it wrong again. I'm gonna say it's
say ya ya duck.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Is that right?
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Say ya ya duck? And uh.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And it's been cool just getting to know you all
about the band, how you came together the song, your
process and the different changes you've gone through, and your
and your approach to songwriting and recording. So I wanted
to find out what what are you all working on next,
because I know you mentioned something about singles and maybe
a record at the end of the year. Is there
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what do you have coming up that you kind of
want to push, promote, plug or share with everyone?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, we are. The next single that we're putting out
is called Fired Up. Why are you laughing about how
it came about? Oh yeah, that that that one's a
really fun kind of anthemic song. So we're stoked to
get that one out there. That's one that I've been
working on for a really long time. And yeah, we've
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been just kind of working through some songs that have
We had a void folder for a little while that
we called it. We're just like everything people would have
ideas and we'd put it. We'd be like, oh yeah,
I put it the folder, and then we forget about
the folder. And now we're like trying to actually push
ourselves to go through it and really work on everyone's ideas.
So we have a couple more songs in the works,
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a lot of shows coming up. We always have shows
coming up and try to stay pretty busy. I feel
like with.
Speaker 9 (36:17):
Everything, especially with summer coming, we're probably gonna be doing
lots of porch fests.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Lots of porch fasts, lots of the local stuff going on.
But yeah, so we'll have probably, Yeah, we're gonna keep
working on recording. But we have about I don't know,
like eight songs in mind that we're gonna put together.
So we'll see what that ends up being uh and
(36:45):
I say eight, and it could end up being way
more away less. I have no idea, but eight that
worth thinking, you know.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Well, got it? No, that's awesome, is there?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
So you're saying performing local?
Speaker 8 (36:56):
So do you?
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
And I know, with your drummer being in that's probably
not the easiest thing in the world. So is there
any regional or other touring that you haven't in plans
for or you do you ever come down to Florida
and try to hit up Fest or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Best is like as an actual dream of mine. I
had a very long time you know, finding over that
for a while a few years now. But no, we
haven't done much touring. We come, we go down to
mainly we go down to like New York a bit.
We play in Connecticut. We do play up in up
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in Maine here and there, which is always a blast.
Main is so weird. Everyone's so cool and weird there.
But yeah, no, uh Fest is a fest is definitely
a goal of mine. I've yet to play Fest with
any band I've been in so yeah, but uh no,
we don't have any plans for anything too far out
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of the Northeast right now.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Got it, got it? Got it? No, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
So then where do where's the best play for anyone
who wants to keep up and where you're performing next,
that lives in the Northeast or just around the world
that wants to hear your music?
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Where? Where should they follow you? Where should they look
you up?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
We're pretty active on Instagram, I feel like, okay, and
we're also you know, we keep our you know, band Camp, Spotify,
all the all the streaming overlords. We try to keep
them happy. It's so well said, that's awesome. You know
it's I won't I'll spare everyone my ramblings on it,
(38:34):
but you know, oh yeah, no, there's there's much to
be said about the streaming overlords. There is people unfortunately,
because there are so many people that I know would
never have heard our music if it weren't on that.
But I also it's also you know, all the other things.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
So yeah, I think it was public.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
So I can just sort of semi paraphrase Snoop Dog
where he's like, yes, so there's like fifty million streams.
Where's the money? He said that, I just lost it.
I mean, if you're not getting paid, man, I am
not getting paid at all, like there's no chance.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
So it's it's brutal, but I'm glad that you're on
band camp. And for all the listeners, there's frequently something
called band Camp Fridays, where if you buy things off
of band Camp on a Friday, the artist gets all
the money. So plan for those events when you hear
about them. Pay attention to your socials and join their
mailing lists and things so you can get notified. Because
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that's a great time to go buy our music from
artists so that you can ensure they're getting paid.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
We try to put out stuff on band Camp Friday
that's bank exclusive, so oh awesome. Like last band Camp Friday,
we put out a live version of Saya Ducky that
we did over at Kart Studios in Philly, which is
which was super fun. We did like a whole live
session with them, so we got it was you know,
we put it up for free, but like, yeah, you know,
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that's what we try to do. One by Kip, right,
that's what I should say. The whole band is screaming
at me right now listening to me say this, but
we try to put this, you know, something that's band
kept exclusive about every sure we have a couple of
them planned at least for the next few so awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Well that's great, and and yeah, I'll make sure to
include all of those different means of.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
How to get a hold of you when I post
this up.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
But I just want to thank you both so much
for taking the time and and and putting forth the
song and wanting to come on and talk about it.
It's been super cool like chatting with you both and
getting to know you a bit. And I look forward
to keeping track of you guys as you go forward,
and uh look forward to your next releases for sure.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Thank you so much, really appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (40:42):
Thank thank you for having us Trows break Down.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Alright, and that wraps up another episode of the B
Side Breakdown. I want to think Cat and Amanda from
Indoor Friends for coming along to talk about their song
Saya I Doug. I also want to thank Adam cool
Long and Carrie Bosel for helping me put together the
jingle you hear at the beginning and the end of
this episode. In the background, you're hearing a song called
Wolve's Sheep by the band Forbidden Seas. If you dig
what you hear, then go back and listen to the
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previous episode, because that's.
Speaker 8 (42:17):
What it was all about.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Up next, we have a song called Call to Action
by five oh four with their actual label.
Speaker 8 (42:23):
Scott Pash.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It's an interesting episode because Scott runs this label. Five
O four is this band that are in high school
and he helps them put out their records and the
song apparently just came out as of the beginning of June.
So we want to get that episode out so that
y'all can hear it.
Speaker 8 (42:39):
But that's up next. I'll give you a taste that
in a minute.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
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Stay safe out there, stay saying if you can, and
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Speaker 4 (42:51):
Thanks.
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Me, of course, then about my company.
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Three tros B Side Breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey everyone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown. My name
is Brett Johnson and I'm your host. This is episode
thirty five of a podcast where I talk with other artist,
musicians and songwriters about a song they've written that's meaningful
to them that they want to chat about and get
deep into the why behind it. Today, I'm gonna be
talking with the band Indoor Friends about their song Sayaya Duck.
I'm gonna be talking with Kat and Amanda. They hail
(00:28):
from Boston, Massachusetts, and they gave me permission to play
the song in advance so you can hear it before
we have her chat. So let's get into it. Here
is Sayaya Duck by Indoor Friends.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Shown my therapist a song I did and she told
me I was talent sed I said, thanks, I wrote
it when I was depressed. Are you proud of meschiatry
to change my meds? And they just upped my dosage instead?
(01:05):
I said thanks. I knew I could count on you.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Trust me. I'm a doctor.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Say it gets worse before it gets better. It's the
glasses sumple? Does it actually matter?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And what does it kill you? Just makes you sadder,
so through it.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I'll just play video games. My poking moud like me better. Anyway.
I'd rather play Mariocarl to think about the breakdown undorway.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So my friends that I always feel blue and then
I don't know what to do, and they replied, ha
ha ha ha same.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Now here's a billy's the same is worse?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Ifory gets better, if the glass sample does it actually matter?
And what does it kill?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You? Just makes you.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Sadder, so bruin.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
I'll just play video games. My Pokemon like need better. Anyway.
I'd rather play mariocardin the dankabout the breakdown under way.
(02:55):
I am a champion.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
On my.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Funny reality. I couldn't even write and enter this bridge,
so screw it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'll just play again.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
I'm like me dad, anyway, I gonna play Mario O'Connor.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
The data about the brain down under it.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
All right?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And that was say yaya duck by indoor friends. We're
gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come back
with Kat and Amanda to chat about the song and
the band.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
Indoor friends, so stay with us.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We'll be right back, all right, and we're back. Let's
bring in Kat and Amanda from Indoor Friends to talk
about the song say Yaya Duck and to find out
what's going on with them. Hey, kat Amanda, thank you
so much for taking some time today to chat with
me about the song.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, thank you for having us. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You bet that you reached out and love that you
signed up to do an episode. It's such a fun
song and you know, just been digging in and learning
more about you all as a band and that you
hail from Boston.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Uh, yeah, we are based in Boston, but none of
us are like from here.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Oh that's perfect, right, so awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, before we get into all that, tell me about
tell me about the song and why specifically you wanted
to talk about this one.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Sure, do you want me to go first? Yeah? All right, cool.
So I think the song's pretty like as like goofy
as it is in a lot of ways. It's kind
of meaningful to us as a band because it really
feels like the first song we like fully workshopped before
recording our first EP that we put out. We kinda
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we were just moving so fast. We just wanted music
out in the world and like, hey, we need people
to be able to look us up and hear things,
So we were like writing like crazy and probably not
putting songs through their paces as much as we would
have liked. So when we got kind of when we
were finished with that, we started writing this song and
it was it was nice because it's just like we've
(05:09):
played it for live for two years, so that's been
kind of fun to kind of see people's reactions, what's working,
what's not working. So I think like it's kind of
felt like a turning point for our band in that
way that we're like, you know, workshopping things live, seeing
what works what doesn't. So I think that's why it's
kind of important to the band, and then for me personally,
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this has just been a It's been a really fun
song to write with Amanda. We didn't get to write
a lot of songs just the two of us on
the EP, so I had a lot of fun like
working on it together. I think like something that I
like about it is that we kind of set out
to write something that wasn't maybe as heavy as the
(05:52):
as our EP was, and as this song has evolved
in like over time, looking back on it, I'm like, oh,
it actually kind of has a lot more meaning than
we may be intended for it to have. So that's
been kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
No, that's that's awesome. I mean I love the playful
is right. I mean, there's like this playful, silly sort
of vibe, like not silly, like it's silly, but like, yeah,
don't exactly take ourselves completely seriously. But at the same
time that that's not a lack of seriousness to the
content of it. I mean, to me, it's there's also
(06:29):
kind of a deeper thread of sounds like you're talking
about some kind of dark stuff and we just you know,
deal with let's just play video games, you know.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
Yeah, yeah, I I am. I'm actually a music therapist,
so it can be hard for me not to write
about mental health. And I feel like I wanted to
when I was writing it. I wanted to challenge myself
to write something that yeah, wasn't sad, but also like
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kind of generally related, even if your struggles are different
than mine or you don't have mental illness. So I
know that, like, life can be really rough, and I
think the state of our mental health has a huge
impact on how we handle it. And I think something
that I touched on was like in the verses around
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even getting help can sometimes feel frustrating or disheartening, and
it makes like that detachment or escapism just that much
easier to do. Sure, And I also know on the
flip side of that, people talk a lot about how
unhealthy that is, like to doom scroll and spend your
time playing video games. But I wanted to kind of
(07:48):
make a song that felt accepting of that, especially if
like you're struggling to just get by and stay alive.
Accepting however you manage to get through the day was
something I wanted to get across.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Absolutely no, and that really resonates with me on a
different level. I mean, for me, that's just kind of
the notion of I need to be gentle with myself
today and just give myself a break, like whatever that is.
And if that's doing that, you know, something that may
be self defeating in a context. If this is all
(08:26):
I do three in or sixty five days a year, okay,
maybe I have to reevaluate that. But I think if
this is what I'm doing, like, well, hey, if it
works and it works for now and it gets me
through today, then maybe that's okay just as it is.
I mean, so I totally feel that, and I love
One of my favorite things that caught me is the
verse where they say it gets worse before it gets better.
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If the glass is half full, does it actually matter?
I love that line and what doesn't kill you just
makes you sadder?
Speaker 8 (08:57):
So great. I was like, wow, I canfulleve identify with that.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, when we were so much fun, we were kind
of as we were as we were writing it. We
we got through we were writing the verses, and uh,
we also kind of broke away from some of our
not necessarily bad habits, but maybe consistent writing habits that
we had. I know, Amanda tends to be very rhymy,
and as we were like getting in the verses, she
(09:21):
was looking for a like fourth thing in each part
to rhyme, and I was like, it's actually just kind
of funnier if you just stop, like it's like you know.
So then we had people fill in. But when we
got to that that kind of pre chorus part that
you're talking about, we had the sake gets worse before
you get better, because we were like, oh, that's like
something people say to you all the time, and I'm like, well,
it's kind of funny if it's like as it's going
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they're almost like becoming more and more mixed metaphors and
just like you're losing touch of Like it's kind of
that feeling when people keep telling you, yeah, you know,
like just look on the right side, or like don't
worry about it. It's it's things will get better soon,
Like these sort of platitudes that people tend to to
throw your way when you're going through a really hard time.
And it's like when you're in the when you're struggling
(10:05):
and you have to you know, if you're going through
a depression or you have to constant depression, it's hard.
It kind of all blurs together into these weird like
versions of what you're hearing from other people. So that's
cool that you like that. That's one of my favorite parts.
When we were writing that, we were both laughing pretty hard.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
Yeah, No, I love that whole approach. It's so good.
So is this just then? What's going on with this song?
Is it a single? Is it on.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Is it part of a record, or what's what's kind
of happening with it?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, so it's a single. We're working, we have another
single coming out. We're kind of we kind of move
faster than we can than we should. A lot of
the times we end up like always writing all these
things and we're like these should be singles and then
we're like, well, to what, and so we take a
step back. But we're definitely towards the end of the
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year we're gonna put out I think I think it's
gonna be a full length. It might end up just
being an EP, depending on what we feel fits. We
have a bunch of songs in the in the can
right now, but we have a single coming out in
probably a couple of weeks, so we're just waiting to
waiting to get that final mix back and put that
out there. But it's yeah, so it's the first music
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we've we've released in a while, so we're pretty we're
pretty excited. We kind of felt like, like I said,
we were like workshopping. It probably way too long to
be honest, Like playing in two years is like insane.
But as we were playing shows and people would always
get really excited about that song specifically, and we've had
people come up to us after the show and ask
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us like, oh, hey, how can I listen to that one?
Or like I really liked that specific song and telling
them that like we had, like at the time, no
plans to release it was was a little you know,
kind of felt like a bomber. So sure, it's really
nice to have it out there after all this time.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That is awesome, and so Ken, it looks like you
produced the song.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah. So we're lucky enough that in Boston we have
a space that I'm gonna plug for a second that
it's called the Record Co. It's a it's a nonprofit
space that makes basically it's like these beautiful studios that
they have at an extremely extremely affordable rate for just
to like make music accessible. I'm we we love them.
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We I'm a like, you know, I engineer there now
and then so I we produced. I produced our EP
as well. But it's it's it's fun. It's hard when
you get close to the songs to be a sort
of a bit a little more, you know, take a
step back and think about what the song needs. I think, Uh,
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this has also been an exercise for that or in
that for me, you know, try to work on like
taking you know, taking that step back and seeing what
suits the song rather than you know, I'm also the guitarist,
so it's like, you know, I could layer nine hundred
guitars in there, but the nine hundred stars. But so
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we recorded everything over at Record Co and then you know,
we send it off to We have a mixing engineer
up in Canada named Corey Bergerond. He is awesome and
he works quickly and effectively and delivers awesome work. So
he helps us out with all that. It's nice to
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like kind of after you work on a song for
so long, just to just to get it away from
I'm always like I got to get it away from me, sure,
get out of my own way.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
So yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And the self producing thing, I mean, I've done some
of that myself, and I know the hard part is
just getting to the point where I can call it done.
It's like, no, this is done, Like I have to
just be done, you know. Otherwise, like you said, right,
you can get into nine hundred different guitar parts, and
what if we did this, and then we could and
then it's like well wait, no, yeah, what serves the
song the best?
Speaker 8 (14:10):
And how do we make that the best?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
You know, totally and with the digital age, it's it's
totally worse because it's just like I sit there, you know, yeah, like,
oh I had I think I ended up one of
our songs on our EP. I had fifty takes of
like the same guitar part, and I'm showing the rest
of the band and they're like they all sound the same.
You're crazy. I'm like, no, you hear the string slide
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right there, and they're like, no, You're crazy. So yeah,
it's you can get really carried away. I'll try to
limit myself as best I can, but yeah, it's uh,
but it's fun too because you know, I think ultimately,
I do think that, like I know, I know what
I want for our music too, so like that vision
is still there, but at the end, I just need
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to get it away from me after a certain point,
just to to stop.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Yeah, miss for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And you know, one of the things that I learned
a long long time ago, and this is just sort
of a plug to an old friend of mine. I
recorded in bands way back when when I lived in
Minneapolis and at the at a studio that was run
by a guy named Tim Mack, and Tim would tell
us that, yeah, there's sort of three things in here.
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He's like basically, uh, I think I forgot now, I
forget how he said it, but he's like, a one
is you know you made a mistake, two is your
bandmate knows you made a mistake, and a three is
an audience member knows you made a mistake.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Ones and twos don't count.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And I'm like, uh, okay, And so that helped me,
Like when I frame it through that lens, like that
helps me avoid the sometimes that that fifty take thing
where I'm like, yeah, okay, maybe I can just do
ten and cobble the best take together between them or something.
But I try to be mindful of that. That's then
sometimes is a very very hard thing for me to do.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah, totally, I think it's hard. It's hard for anyone,
and that's a really good way to look at it,
especially like live too, I've always all struggled with like
an our band, especially It's like I when we were
first playing, I'd been in many bands before, but I
always had this horrible like habit that I needed to
break out of of like when I made a mistake,
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I just would be look miserable on stage, like the
whole rest of the time, it's like bumming out the audience. Sure,
that's one of my old bandmates said that to me.
He's like, look, it's like it's okay now one He's like,
no one cares. He's like, you know, what they care
about is that you look miserable, and then they feel
miserable because you look miserable.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
So uh yeah, it's yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And I mean I went through that same exact dynamic, right,
and and I'm super familiar with that, and I got
to a point where I'm like, you know, now it's
just funny. It's like, well I train I train wrecked.
Sometimes I'll just raise my hand and my drummer will
start laughing at me, and I'm like, okay, you know.
Speaker 10 (16:54):
And I don't know if you've ever seen the bear,
but that like they rubbed their their chest when they
make a mistake in the kitchen. Oh okay, and I'll
do that even though I like after every song, I'm like,
oh man, that was like that's my little that was me,
that one was me, that that was went off off
the rails.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Those are just funny though, because even my drummer he'll
laugh at me, like visibly laughing at me on stage
when I screw it up and then we just both
have a laugh about it later. But it's like nobody
cares even if it's you know, you break. I don't know,
I just remember, oh, I don't know. It was when
I was really really young, and I thought that, you know,
Red Out Chili Peppers in the Mother's Milk Era was
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like the greatest band on the planet and Flee was
the best bass player in the world. And I was
so stoked to go see them at First Avenue and
I was just unbelievable at this all age show and.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Then watched him make a mistake and I just flipped out.
I'm like, oh my god, he's human, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
It was just like one of those moments where it
was like, Eh, he just didn't care.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's like, of course he doesn't care, but no, that's
super fun, So that's cool that you go ahead.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Oh no, I'm sorry. I was just going to say
that I forget words to all of our songs a lot,
and that's something that I used to fear really a
lot when we started our band, that my mind would
just blank. And now when that happens, I kind of
just laugh at myself or sometimes make up words.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, best way to handle it. Yeah, I think I
think that also the laughing thing. Honestly, when I'm in
the audience and somebody makes a mistake and they laugh,
I think it's like the greatest thing because I'm like,
it's like a joke with the audience because then they're like,
oh you I almost think they go, oh you know
that that wasn't how that should sound, so like they
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because I think my insecurity always came from, like especially
being a female guitarist. The thing, right, it's like every
band I'm in. I'm in all punk bands all growing up,
all high school, all of college, and it's like I
was usually the only woman in the band, and it's
like you you would put it, I would put it
in my mind that like everyone's just looking at you,
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waiting for you to mess up so they can be like, oh.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
They're just judging you.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, it's sort of a silly mindset because no one
is watching it. I mean, there probably are people doing that,
but like the majority of people just are there to
have a good time or just check out what you're
what you sound like, and decide if they like you.
And I think they're gonna have a lot better of
a time if you're not taking yourself so seriously and
for sure, like you realize, oh that was a mistake.
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Everyone knows that was a mistake. It was kind of funny, right,
So yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And there's this other thing that I found along the
way that also really helped me with that because I
used to like there was something the way you just
said that, like there, it's like it's a presentation and
we're deciding whether or not they like us or not.
And for me, I've tried so hard and it's taken
me a long time, but just to really get out
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of that and think of it, this is one giant
common experience. Like I'm not looking at it as you're
the audience and I'm the musician on a stage and
it's you consuming something.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
It's us in this.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Swirling room of energy and kind of give and take
and thing that's all happening, and it doesn't happen if
you're not here with me. So we're just doing this together.
It's just like you and I, you know, all three
of us having this.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Conversation right now. It's like, well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And to me, if if I approach it like that,
like I'm so grateful that that stage fright thing left me.
I'm just like, I'm just not fearful, Like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
It's like I just do my best. What do you do?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Totally, that's a really good way to look at it,
and honestly, like I think also, I was looking at
it that way because I wasn't really I think weirdly enough,
I wasn't like thinking of myself as a part of
like the community, like the music community. Like I was
kind of like, oh, I'm just like here, like and
other people are part of it and I'm not, and
they're like waiting for me to mess up. But like
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the more I felt a part of like our local
com I mean, we go to shows, coments. We love
to be a part of this community.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
I that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I could we always joke. It's like the Boston music
scene is very like, you know, it has its problems
like any scene. Sure, if other people point them out,
you get mad. It's like if someone picks on your
brother or something, and it's like, yeah, hey, I can
pick on them, but he's a good guy. Leave him alone.
You know, Like that's how we've had you know, that's
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how it feels when other people look at it. But
it's a really good community. There's so many people working
so hard to like make things better. And that's true.
I think pretty much anywhere you know, you always like
there are people trying to do good and so like,
when I started thinking of it more like I'm a
part of this, not just like someone showing up once
in a while, it really did. That also kind of
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helped me with like my stage right at least.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Sure, and I'm interested and not to devolve too far
into talking about other artists, I'm not trying to do that,
but I'm just curious since you're from Boston or you're
in Boston now not for Yeah, so our are the
do you play shows like the Middle East and things
like that?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
So, yeah, we put we played out pretty often. We
we mostly play at uh well are We're like we
joke that we're like the house band at this one
dive bar, the Silhouette up here, because the bartender one
time was just like I think I've heard you guys
play like six times in the last like four months.
But we're uh, we play a lot in the area.
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Our our drummer actually is in Portland, Maine, so he
drives two and a half hours each way to our shows.
But yeah, we're out quite a bit. We play at
the Jungle. We haven't played at the Middle East. That's
just has it just hasn't worked out that way. Sure,
we've had a couple of like off first to play
there interest in you know, it's it's honestly, it's really
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tough with with our drummer. He's he's a I can't
believe he does what he does. To be honest, he
when he told us he was moving to Maine, we
were like, oh man, now we gotta go look for
a drum and he's like, so, I'm thinking I'll come
once a month down for practice. If we were all like,
what you're gonna still you're gonna commute to practice? Like,
but it makes you know, booking can be a little
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difficult with that, So that's kind of.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Why No, that makes that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
But there's a lot of cool spots that have opened
up kind of in the area as well, like uh
Faces in Malden is really cool and Deep Cuts in
Medford is a newer spot that's totally awesome. They're so
nice there and have great food and just a really nice,
really nice vibe. And uh, there's a couple of new
spots that just opened in Salem as well, moon Base
(23:43):
one I think is one of them, which is cool
because that one was opened by like a group of
uh like people that are in like a lot of
other bands in the area. So a lot of like
local people doing some really really nice stuff.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
No, that's great and so so anything now, so you okay,
So now how I love your your band camp description
of how your band came together?
Speaker 8 (24:08):
And I love it like through every sort of medium.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Possible, and I'm interested in So where y'all from? How'd
you end up in Boston? And yeah, tell me about that.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
Well. Me and ore Uke players Slash also singer uh Christa.
We're both from Maryland and we actually met in undergrad.
We were in an a cappella group together called Squaw Cappella.
Our mascot is a seagull. And I I had moved
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here because a bunch of my friends just decided that
they wanted to move to Boston and then they needed
a roommate and I decided to just go for it.
And then I I went back to school up here,
and not too long after I moved. Christa followed.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
And yeah, you guys, Oh got it, Okay, got it.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, So that's how they kind of got here from
New Jersey and I came up here for college. I
want to be you, and I just kind of stayed.
I mean I stayed for like, you know, found a job,
been here almost I don't even know. Sometimes it feels
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like too long. Sometimes it feels good, but it's yeah,
been here for a while. Our bassist Ben is from Connecticut.
He also he came up here for college and he
ended up getting a job at so we work at
the same company. So that's how we met. And then
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Matt are our drummer. He's originally from Maine. He moved
down here to Boston, the Boston area for a bit,
and he and I were in another band together previously,
and he and his girlfriend moved back up to me
wanted to be closer to their family, have a house,
you know, things you can do and in the Boston
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area too easily. Yeah, so yeah, that's how we kind
of all got here. We all everyone kind of met
mostly through me, like everyone knew me at the very least,
and then Krista knew Amanda as well. And everyone knew
Amanda threw me too, so we kind of, Uh, Matt
and I were kind of at the ending of our
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old band, the lead singer, Head was moving to Vermont,
and it just kind of didn't It was just at
the end of its time. So we played a cover
show all together, which was a little bit of a disaster.
Poured rain. It was an out of course it did
because it was outside. I said, there would be no
droughts if there were, if bands would just play outside
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all the time. But you know, like it was a
it was kind of a bit of a disaster. But
we all kind of were together and we were like, hey,
like let's uh, let's play a porch fest or do
something all together after this, and we kind of just
like kind of formed from there pretty naturally into being
this and then we before we knew it, we had
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our first show lined up. Before we had our first
show lined up, and we had like one song written.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Yeah, I'm familiar with that too.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah. It was one of my friends from Jersey, one
of my good friends. He was like, I'm coming up.
I have a show at Sammy's and Revere, which is
this kind of dive bar kind of place. Right on
the beach, which is a cool spot. And they were like, hey, like,
would you like would your band? I heard you're starting
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a new band, would you like to play? And it
was like two months out and I'm like, we have
one song? Like we we I was some of us
haven't even been in bands before, like this is a mess.
But it seemed like such a cool bill and I
was like, you know, it'll push us. Let's do it.
And so we said yes to it, and we wrote
a ton of music really fast, and we put out
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our first song right before that show, which was pretty
pretty crazy. We did all that within like four or
five months.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Got it so that and that's the is it all
missing or melting sorry reckon?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, So that was I Hate It Hear single? And
we wrote all the We wrote most of those songs
early that year, and then we kind of kept like
recording and we're like, oh, I don't know wherely any
of this is going. And then finally I was like,
let's just like make an EP like it feels right.
We all really wanted like, we wanted music out there
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so people could look us up and do all that stuff. Yeah,
you know, it felt right, and we were writing really quickly.
We were probably we I think we would all agree that,
like we're proud of that EP, but it would not
be how I would do it again, just because it's
just like we were writing songs so fast that people
were coming to me to like record their parts and
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had no idea what the rest of the song was
like really sounding like like they're like, oh, you totally
changed like every lyric. They were like I think our
drummer Matt one time we got like a mixed song
back and I sent it to everyone. He was just
like I didn't even know what this song really sounded
like because I was yelling into the talkback mic verse
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like course you know bridge, and he's just like blindly like, okay, here's.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
A bridge here, it is here. It is so like
that good times.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
We uh yeah, so we did it. It was super
I mean in a lot of ways, it was super punk.
We did everything ourselves, you know, and that was really
fun and but yeah, it was a lot of stress
and a lot of it was a lot of people
in our groups like first time ever recording, so like
that was a lot of stress for me just trying
to be like, hey, so it it's not a one
and done kind of thing, like I know you're very talented,
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but it's not one and done. We gotta keep we
gotta keep doing a couple of takes here. So yeah,
we we wouldn't I would say we wouldn't do it
that way again, but yeah, that's how we we kind
of got that together. And then I think the stress
and all of that from that, we wrote SAYAI Duck
pretty like almost like a month after that EP came out,
and just that came out in like December of twenty
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twenty two. We wrote say I Duck like the next month.
I was like, all right, start working on the next thing, right,
And then we had a couple just different setbacks as
happens in life, and just took a really long time
for that song to come together, way more than you
would ever think listening to it. It's short, it's nothing complicated,
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but we had a lot of just back and forth
about how certain things should go. Is this part working,
is this part working? So we almost like over We
didn't overcook it, but we got close to it. I
think a couple of times, just because we played it
so long, like I sometimes I'm like, oh man, we
like played that song for like two years. That's crazy
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to me, Like feel it just came out, you know. Yeah,
so it feels so long. But so we kind of
went in two very opposite directions. We had like quick
record everything as fast as you can and put it
out and just hope for the best. And then we
had like, let's like sit on this song for two
years and play it a bunch and see what people
think and what they like and what they don't like.
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So now we're trying to kind of meet in the
middle a little bit with the rest of this, with
the rest of what we're recording. Yeah, we've we had
like a nice little band zoom powow, just being like, hey,
you know, the not writing anything isn't really working either,
so we need something that's in between not writing very
often and writing you know, constantly, and recording before you
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know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So sure, No, it's cool to hear both kind of
those approaches that you took. And I'm grateful to hear
that it didn't get to be too long before you
recorded it, because I mean, I'm so familiar with that
where it's no, I'm just gonna kind of let this
one sort of permeate and I'll figure it out and
let it kind of grow and like we'll see what
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the song turns out to, and then all of a sudden,
it could be five years later and I'm like, yeah,
I never finished it, you know, and it's like, I'm
just glad you didn't do that, you know, I'm glad
that it's out, Like that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I have songs that have been through like four bands
at this point, oh right now.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Totally feel that, Totally feel that.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
We had one song one of the songs that I
ended up on our EP was like that where I
write a lot with actually with our drummer. He's like
my favorite person to write with instrumentally, which I think
is counterintuitive for a lot of people, but I love
working with drummers in general. But he's not a really
good year for like melody, and that's really helpful for me.
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But I remember giving him one of those songs that
was on the EP that was like from like three
bands ago, and I'm like, what is this, what do
with this? Like fix it? And he just you know,
he changed up a bunch of things. But yeah, things
go through so much change, like over time, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Sure does well with that.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Is there anything else specifically about the song you want
to talk about or something we didn't touch on that
you wanted to mention?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Not I don't, I guess. I mean one thing I
would maybe want to talk about is the cover art
for it is Please Seam. That is going to be continuing,
which my whole life. Have a lot of things that
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happen in this band are because I like have these
weird things I've wanted to do for really long amounts
of time, and then I just tell everyone we're doing it,
and they're like cool, Everyone's really receptive, which is nice.
But we kind of went with this, like I spy
kind of vibe with it of like hide a bunch
of things in the cover art and different references from
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things in our band. So that's going to be like
a theme that we're we're kind of working on. So
that's been been pretty fun, just like collecting different miniatures
and work out what like the different scenes are for
different songs and how things go.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh that's cool, and I'm looking at it right now
and it's yeah, it's super fun.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
It's a great cover.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'll make sure that that's in the social post. So
everybody else can see it too, so when they're listening
to the episode, they can flip through Instagram and go, oh,
that's the that's the park.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Now that's great. Well let's do this.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back
and find out what y'all are working on next and
where people can get a hold of you it does
that work? Yeah, that's cool, all right, hanksad everyone, We'll
be right back. All right, and we are back with
Kat and Amanda from Indoor Friends talking about the song.
I'm gonna say it wrong again. I'm gonna say it's
say ya ya duck.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Is that right?
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Say ya ya duck? And uh.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And it's been cool just getting to know you all
about the band, how you came together the song, your
process and the different changes you've gone through, and your
and your approach to songwriting and recording. So I wanted
to find out what what are you all working on next,
because I know you mentioned something about singles and maybe
a record at the end of the year. Is there
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what do you have coming up that you kind of
want to push, promote, plug or share with everyone?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, we are. The next single that we're putting out
is called Fired Up. Why are you laughing about how
it came about? Oh yeah, that that that one's a
really fun kind of anthemic song. So we're stoked to
get that one out there. That's one that I've been
working on for a really long time. And yeah, we've
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been just kind of working through some songs that have
We had a void folder for a little while that
we called it. We're just like everything people would have
ideas and we'd put it. We'd be like, oh yeah,
I put it the folder, and then we forget about
the folder. And now we're like trying to actually push
ourselves to go through it and really work on everyone's ideas.
So we have a couple more songs in the works,
(36:11):
a lot of shows coming up. We always have shows
coming up and try to stay pretty busy. I feel
like with.
Speaker 9 (36:17):
Everything, especially with summer coming, we're probably gonna be doing
lots of porch fests.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Lots of porch fasts, lots of the local stuff going on.
But yeah, so we'll have probably, Yeah, we're gonna keep
working on recording. But we have about I don't know,
like eight songs in mind that we're gonna put together.
So we'll see what that ends up being uh and
(36:45):
I say eight, and it could end up being way
more away less. I have no idea, but eight that
worth thinking, you know.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Well, got it? No, that's awesome, is there?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
So you're saying performing local?
Speaker 8 (36:56):
So do you?
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
And I know, with your drummer being in that's probably
not the easiest thing in the world. So is there
any regional or other touring that you haven't in plans
for or you do you ever come down to Florida
and try to hit up Fest or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Best is like as an actual dream of mine. I
had a very long time you know, finding over that
for a while a few years now. But no, we
haven't done much touring. We come, we go down to
mainly we go down to like New York a bit.
We play in Connecticut. We do play up in up
(37:31):
in Maine here and there, which is always a blast.
Main is so weird. Everyone's so cool and weird there.
But yeah, no, uh Fest is a fest is definitely
a goal of mine. I've yet to play Fest with
any band I've been in so yeah, but uh no,
we don't have any plans for anything too far out
(37:53):
of the Northeast right now.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Got it, got it? Got it? No, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
So then where do where's the best play for anyone
who wants to keep up and where you're performing next,
that lives in the Northeast or just around the world
that wants to hear your music?
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Where? Where should they follow you? Where should they look
you up?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
We're pretty active on Instagram, I feel like, okay, and
we're also you know, we keep our you know, band Camp, Spotify,
all the all the streaming overlords. We try to keep
them happy. It's so well said, that's awesome. You know
it's I won't I'll spare everyone my ramblings on it,
(38:34):
but you know, oh yeah, no, there's there's much to
be said about the streaming overlords. There is people unfortunately,
because there are so many people that I know would
never have heard our music if it weren't on that.
But I also it's also you know, all the other things.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
So yeah, I think it was public.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
So I can just sort of semi paraphrase Snoop Dog
where he's like, yes, so there's like fifty million streams.
Where's the money? He said that, I just lost it.
I mean, if you're not getting paid, man, I am
not getting paid at all, like there's no chance.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
So it's it's brutal, but I'm glad that you're on
band camp. And for all the listeners, there's frequently something
called band Camp Fridays, where if you buy things off
of band Camp on a Friday, the artist gets all
the money. So plan for those events when you hear
about them. Pay attention to your socials and join their
mailing lists and things so you can get notified. Because
(39:33):
that's a great time to go buy our music from
artists so that you can ensure they're getting paid.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
We try to put out stuff on band Camp Friday
that's bank exclusive, so oh awesome. Like last band Camp Friday,
we put out a live version of Saya Ducky that
we did over at Kart Studios in Philly, which is
which was super fun. We did like a whole live
session with them, so we got it was you know,
we put it up for free, but like, yeah, you know,
(39:59):
that's what we try to do. One by Kip, right,
that's what I should say. The whole band is screaming
at me right now listening to me say this, but
we try to put this, you know, something that's band
kept exclusive about every sure we have a couple of
them planned at least for the next few so awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Well that's great, and and yeah, I'll make sure to
include all of those different means of.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
How to get a hold of you when I post
this up.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
But I just want to thank you both so much
for taking the time and and and putting forth the
song and wanting to come on and talk about it.
It's been super cool like chatting with you both and
getting to know you a bit. And I look forward
to keeping track of you guys as you go forward,
and uh look forward to your next releases for sure.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Thank you so much, really appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (40:42):
Thank thank you for having us Trows break Down.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Alright, and that wraps up another episode of the B
Side Breakdown. I want to think Cat and Amanda from
Indoor Friends for coming along to talk about their song
Saya I Doug. I also want to thank Adam cool
Long and Carrie Bosel for helping me put together the
jingle you hear at the beginning and the end of
this episode. In the background, you're hearing a song called
Wolve's Sheep by the band Forbidden Seas. If you dig
what you hear, then go back and listen to the
(42:15):
previous episode, because that's.
Speaker 8 (42:17):
What it was all about.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Up next, we have a song called Call to Action
by five oh four with their actual label.
Speaker 8 (42:23):
Scott Pash.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It's an interesting episode because Scott runs this label. Five
O four is this band that are in high school
and he helps them put out their records and the
song apparently just came out as of the beginning of June.
So we want to get that episode out so that
y'all can hear it.
Speaker 8 (42:39):
But that's up next. I'll give you a taste that
in a minute.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Please subscribe to this podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
I can't thank you enough for your ongoing and continued support.
Stay safe out there, stay saying if you can, and
we'll catch on the next one.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
It's a call action, that's the complaction trump the from
the rain blatch ships pudding around. You gotta take just
the tint of all the kids like.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Me, of course, then about my company.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
You've got the freedom, They got the choice of Cram
Saints to the choya Ja like the gubt of mister
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