June 22, 2025 • 38 mins
504 Plan is a high school punk band from Washington, D.C., whose music is as urgent as it is unfiltered. Their debut vinyl, DCxPC Live & Dead Vol. 6, features the explosive single Call to Action and captures both their sweat-soaked live energy (recorded at DC9) and their studio polish (tracked at the legendary Inner Ear with Don Zientara).
In this episode, we sit down not with the band, but with Scott Pasch, founder of DCxPC Live Records, to talk about what drew him to 504 Plan, the ethos behind the label, and the importance of documenting live punk in the streaming age. Scott walks us through the recording process, and what it means to press something real for a new generation of angry, brilliant kids.
If you care about punk as a movement and not just a sound, this one’s for you.
504 Plan:
https://www.instagram.com/504plan.band/
DCxPC Live:
https://dcxpclive.bandcamp.com/
https://www.instagram.com/dcxpc_live
https://dcxpclive.com/
Thank you for your continued support!
Brett Johnson
Host of B-Side Breakdown
https://www.instagram.com/bsidebreakdown
https://linktr.ee/bsidebreakdown
#504Plan #CallToAction #DCxPCLive #bsidebreakdown #threecrowsclub #brettjamesjohnson #musicpodcast
In this episode, we sit down not with the band, but with Scott Pasch, founder of DCxPC Live Records, to talk about what drew him to 504 Plan, the ethos behind the label, and the importance of documenting live punk in the streaming age. Scott walks us through the recording process, and what it means to press something real for a new generation of angry, brilliant kids.
If you care about punk as a movement and not just a sound, this one’s for you.
504 Plan:
https://www.instagram.com/504plan.band/
DCxPC Live:
https://dcxpclive.bandcamp.com/
https://www.instagram.com/dcxpc_live
https://dcxpclive.com/
Thank you for your continued support!
Brett Johnson
Host of B-Side Breakdown
https://www.instagram.com/bsidebreakdown
https://linktr.ee/bsidebreakdown
#504Plan #CallToAction #DCxPCLive #bsidebreakdown #threecrowsclub #brettjamesjohnson #musicpodcast
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Three TROS B Side Breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey everyone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown. My name
is Brett Johnson and I am your host. This is
episode thirty six of a podcast where I talk with
other artists, musicians and songwriters about a song they've written
that's meaningful to them that they want to chat about
and get deep into the why behind it. But first
I need permission from them to play it for you
and its entirety so you can hear it before we
have our chat. So you know what we're talking about today.
(00:28):
We're gonna do something a little bit different. Actually, gonna
be talking with Scott Pash from DCPC Live Records about
a song called Call to Action from a band called
five oh four Plan. Now, the story here is that
five oh four Plan is a high school band and
Scott is putting out their record, and so this is
a song from their record. But I'm gonna be talking
(00:51):
with Scott about it, not necessarily the guys from five
O four Plan. Okay, makes sense, cool, So let's get
into it. Here's a song called to Action by five
oh four Plan.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
What's a call action?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That is the complaction that trump the form the rain
Watch Ship puddy around.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You gotta take book just they take that. All the
kids like me, corsecared of war might company. You got
the freedom, they got the choice. Stuck, crap, shanks, don't
you do what the ch like the g the mister
(01:42):
I do. It's hard to make that transition to like them.
He realize you have to make a dumb decision so
that all the kids like me horse scared of war
might company.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You got the freedom, they.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Got the choice.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Stuck, crap shanks, don't.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You go to the d Yeah like the ge.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
All right? And that was called to action by five
oh four Plan.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We're gonna take a quick break and come back and
talk with Scott Pass from DCPC Live Records about the band,
about the song and anything else he has going on
with the label. So stay with us and we'll be all.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Right back all right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And that was the song called to action by five
oh four Plan. I have Scott from the label DCPC
Live here to chat with me about it. Scott, thanks
so much for taking some time this evening to talk
about this band, the song and what's going on with you.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Awesome. Thanks, Brettan I appreciate it. Yeah, you want to
get a start of a spire a question or how
do we roll with that?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, I'm just interested in, you know, tell me about
so transparently, listeners. This is the first time I'm forraying
into the space of not talking directly to the artist.
I'm talking to the label rep which is or the
owner of the label that's putting out this record, or
however we want to say that, Scott, feel free to
correct me and I'll yeah, that.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Works fine, that's appropriate.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So yeah, yeah, tell me about it.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
So, like, these are a bunch of young kids. They
are juniors in high school in DC. And as for
my record label's name, I like my Heart and Soul
is in DC. I was part of that hardcore scene
from the early nineties, like ninety one all the way
through like two thousand and eight. Awesome, and like out
of nowhere, these kids just sent me a message and said, hey,
we like what you're doing. We bought some of your records.
(03:34):
Would you ever consider working with us. We're just a
small high school band. And I listened to their demos,
I was like and I watched them live video. I
was like, fuck, this is good. Yeah, this is good.
And I live in upstate New York now like just
an hour south of Albany. And then they're coming to Brooklyn.
So I did like a five hour round trip to
drop my kid off, and my mom's in Pennsylvania, so
(03:56):
my wife was out of town to go see them
at some like basement show in Brooklyn and they just
killed it. I was like, yeah, let's do a record.
So that's where this song comes in. It's a studio song,
which is interesting because I normally do live albums.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Sure, oh okay, got it.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
But I have a concept called live and Dead where
it's studio or it's live on Sariday and studio on
side B.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
So I'm also a history teacher. I was political science major,
you know, very common in DC area, and I'm getting
my PhD now in civic and civic engagement. And this
song is all about politics and it's a much of
DC kids. And they were like, look, Scott, I know
her album isn't going to be out for a couple
of months. Still we're still mixing the live side. Can
(04:41):
we put this out now? We need to put it
out now. What's happening in this country. It needs to
happen now. And like there's like I'm an old person.
I'm almost fifty, is like, oh yeah, a song isn't
going to change anything. But then it goes like how
much did songs change me? From propagandhi to like contradict
to bad religion? And I'm like, you know these kids,
(05:01):
like they're so emphatic about it. I was like, yeah, yeah,
fuck you, let's just get it out there, let's put
it out, let's let's do it. And the song is
just rat and it just it's it's pure old like
eighties style deces or with a little bit like maybe
seven seconds in there. Sure, And I love the lyrics.
I love the honesty of it, Like this is like
(05:23):
how he like honestly feels he's not putting up a front.
He's like I think kids in my area are apathetic
and think that because it's over, there's nothing else for
them to do. They lost the election and now they
just have to sit back and do nothing. And I
think people can do more. And I just love the
honesty of it, Like it's reminds me of like when
I was younger, and like we would read about like
revolution summer and all the stuff that like the Discord
(05:45):
bands did in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Sure, No, that's that's awesome, man, And it's so I
have to tell you right, take him back by just
listening to him like, wait, okay, because not knowing prior
to the call that we're having that okay, wait, this
can't be this. This can't be Scott's band, because it
just didn't sound like like the energy of it is
(06:08):
is exactly high school. I'm like, unless this is, you know,
an older thing, but it doesn't sound like I don't
mean that in any kind of negative way other than
it is so full of piss and vinegar and and
and the awesome kind of that fire that you know,
I remember just being in high school in the Minneapolis,
you know, hardcore scene that I used to frequent and
(06:29):
be a part of. Like it was really fun to
see like those bands and the ferocity they had in
the punk and hardcore side of it no matter what,
and when everybody would come together and just like there
was so much energy. And I missed the Sunday matinee
shows that were all ages where everybody could kind of
hang out, you know, and do all that. But it
just this sounds like it just reminds me of all
(06:49):
of that and it's that Yeah, it's it's that focused
raw energy that just sounds amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So I'm super stoked to hear it. Thanks for sharing
it with me.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, and it was actually recorded. So when I did
the process with him, where do we record the studio at?
Like we've never recorded except for like in our basement
on like a four track, right, Like I know some studios.
How would you like to record with like Donzie and
Tara from inter Ear like inter Ear, like Minder Threat, Fukasis,
(07:18):
you can do that. I was like, yeah, I mean
his name is in the phone book, but like I
have met him. My old band recorded with him after
I left the band. But like, if you want to
talk to him, he still records that it was studio
shut down, but he's still doing bands in his basement
and like he still prefers if he can to record
bands in the most natural state, which to him is
(07:38):
usually practice. So he tries to record them as live
as possible with as few overdubs as possible for sure,
which I think will fit you your style very well.
And so they were like ife shitting over the fact
that they got to record with Donzie and Tara.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
That's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So did this So is this officially out yet or
when does it come out?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
So we have already mixed the entire studio side, the
dead side O the live side is currently being mixed,
and then they both have to get like mastered for vinyl,
and then I've got to send it out to my guests.
Sometime this month, I'm going to send it to press,
and it probably takes two or three months. So let's see,
it's early February, so I would say April May it'll
(08:24):
be out. Oh. The kids are planning their first tour
and I did a zoom call with them, and I
know it's funny I'm calling them kids, but like they are.
They're like they're they're under eighteen, right, And they first
were asking me to help book their tour for them,
and I was like, well, what do you What do
you have in mind? Like, oh, we want to go
from DC. We want to do a kickoff show in DC,
(08:45):
hit Pennsylvania, hit New York City, hit Massachusetts, then go
to New Orleans. I'm like, I'm sorry, what the fuck
did you say?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Hold on a second, hold on, hold on, Hey, We've
not done this before.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It's like, no, no, no, no, it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
So, like that was a text message they sent me.
So we need to have a zoom call to talk
about this. We have the zoom call. First off, you
don't play DC or Baltimore because you can play DC
in Baltimore anytime, and you don't need to waste one
of your twelve days on your tour doing that. Right,
all right, You've played in New York City at least
two or three times that I'm aware of, so you
obviously can do that as well. You said new Orleans?
(09:23):
Why and we really really want to go there? I
was like, so that's your destination, that's your midway point.
So we're gonna tour to New Orleans, play there, and
then turn around and come back up Like, oh, like
play shows on the way. I was like, yeah, yeah,
Blake shows on the way.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That's so great. Oh that's super fun.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
What what a fun adventure that those dudes are gonna have.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So the inevitable question, just being the style of the
band and and what's going on.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Is are so are you okay?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Uh, I'll say this, are you formally booking them?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Are you actually acting as their their booking agent in
this capacity, Are you just helping them book this first tour?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Well, I was going to, but then after the conversation
I really thought about it, and I told them that
I have a spreadsheet with like two thousand bands, fifteen
hundred venues and promoters that I've collected over the years
of my own work, And I was like, you know,
I'd rather like give this to you, like I had
book your own fucking life when I.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Was exactly, and you just need to do.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
This yourself, Like I can help you need to. I
can highlight the bands and the promoters that I know
personally that you can name drop me if you want to.
But I think there's a joy in booking your own
show for your own first tour. We're good or ill,
whatever happens, even if you play to like no One,
or you get there and the venue has been burned
(10:45):
down or whatever the problems are, Like, there's a joy
to that.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
There is.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I don't want to go like, oh, yeah, Scott booked
our whole tour for us. I'm like, well, then we're
you gonna do what I'm not around the next time. Yeah,
for sure to book your own first tour. And so
they told me they're starting on it then to get
their parents' permission to even start the process, which is great.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
That's the one that can run a van. They're all
under twenty five.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Sure, sure, so that's cool.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So I hope they I hope that you know, I've
I've interviewed a handful of bands that play FEST, and
I really hope that they catch the Fest folks catch it.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
When of these folks or catch which a whiff of.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Five or four plane and bring him down, because it
would be so much fun to see them.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I always send an email off to Tony Weinbender, who
does all this stuff, and say, these are all the
bands on my label. These are the ones that have
already played Fest before. These are the ones that I
think you should look at as well.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Then sometimes he bites, sometimes he doesn't bite. Sure, that's okay.
He probably gets thousands and thousands of emails.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Oh I'm sure, No, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So then if this isn't coming out till March or April,
I mean, I'm happy to pause the release of this
episode to coincide kind of with that.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
So if you want, and I'll.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Edit, smind you oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like if you
want me to kind of time it so we can,
because you know, that's the whole point of this really,
I mean, in the spirit of DIY and like let's
all kind of grow bigger together if we can, like
let's do that like naturally and organically.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's like I want to be able to.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Make sure that whatever tool this can serve to help
them along and create exposure for them and their fans
and new.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
People and everybody else, that they get it right.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And and that's the whole fun and joy of this
for me is then I get I get hit up
by you know, Scott who listened to the Jeff episode
and is like, hey, man, can like you know, we
chat about this. I'm like, hell yeah, dude, Like that's
the whole point of this, Like yes, so, I mean
that's cool.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Jeff for over twenty years.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Oh that's interesting, that's fun.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So he used to play in a DC band called
vpr Okay. He was from Pennsylvania, but he would he
was going to college at American University, where my wife
went to school, and he joined that band, but he
was also playing in the Boils. And then when my
old band, the Over privilege toward Europe. He was over
there and I think Berlin or somewhere studying abroad, and
(13:09):
he came out to like a couple of our shows there.
So I got him to play Divided. Haven't actually played
my old school I used to teach fifth grade at.
Oh wow, it was a secular school but owned by Mormons. Interesting,
So I got him. I got him to be able
to play the show before. He was playing like a
club later that night and had what's his face Joey
(13:31):
from the Briggs also with him.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Oh wow wow.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
So like, and two of those kids are now in
a band whose record I've done two records for that
for that for that band. So two kids that saw
him are now in their own like punk rock band.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So No, that's fun to see how that all gets
passed along and how that's all intertwined.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Now, that's super cool.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And that's one of the reasons I want to work
with these kids, because even when I talk to them,
they're like, you know, we're all like graduating in a
year and a half. I'm probably going to break up.
Like two of us are applying to go to Berkeley.
I was like, okay, or you're gonna go on tour,
realize this is all you ever want to do, and
you're gonna finish your senior year of high school and
you're gonna ask my mom and dad to get let
you defer or you're gonna tour in the summer. It's
(14:13):
like you many bands go to college and still play.
I was like, I'm not even stressing, And if you
do break up, that's fine. The album was worth it anyway. Yep.
It's a snapshot of history that mattered. I think your
band matters, so I want to put it out.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That's awesome. I'm grateful for you doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean, it's it's really cool to hear it and
to hear again just that that that's out there, that
you know, Uh, there's people like you that are still
working with you know, young doy bands that want to
put out music and go on tour and do the
deal and and just see all that's still happening and
kind of the crazy way that things generally operate today,
which is I mean, yeah, you book your own fucking life, man.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I mean right, it's like I just my life.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Literally, Like musicians got to touring and promotion pre internet.
It's like, okay, so how am I right? Which venues?
Like I identified the five major things in every city,
like the indie record store, the indie radio station, the
independent rag that will put it out, what venue, and
who is the best band that I should try to
book a show with, exact and then just constantly networking
in every single city with all those folks. And right,
(15:14):
I'm not trying to go play.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Hudson, Wisconsin. When I live in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's like, no, first stop, Chicago, first stop, Kansas City,
and then we're on our way to Texas.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's like yeah, and you know, it's fun that you
brought up like that. No, you guys, go book your
own first tour because yeah, same thing I did. Yeah,
and just like said venues that you know, I didn't
know anything about advancing shows when I booked my first tour,
So I'm like, I booked it, we got a show, yeah,
And then we show up and they're like, who are
(15:43):
you guys.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I'm like, well, dude, I booked a show with that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, Like I got fired like three months ago, and
I'm like, ohit, you.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Know, and then order to check up and we're to
follow right right point of contact, getting all the information and.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Who's you if you're getting paid and all that, right.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
I mean, it's it's like I booked tours for other
bands before out of just like you know, I'm helping them.
Oh yeah, we want to plan a day off. It's like,
you don't plan a day off, Like, what do you mean,
Or we're doing a three week tour, we should have
a day off. I was like, you'll have one. There's
always a day off. There's nothing evident light, but eventually
some show is going to get canceled for some reason
(16:17):
or another. It just happens. So don't plan a day off.
Maybe one if you really are in a city you
really want to hang out at or something. But for
the most part, you just book everything and hope everything
goes fine. I remember once I went to California and
back and we were in Iowa, and then every show
coming back on canceled.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's awful.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I was like, well, that's a long fucking drive.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah it is, Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I remember we Yeah, I was in a similar boat
where we decided to go south from Minneapolis to San Antonio,
then west to San Diego and try to hit you know,
like Albuquerque and Phoenix on the way or something, and
it was like, yeah, we didn't plan that out very
well in the middle of August in a van with
no air conditioning, like you know, eight to twelve hour
drives in between city and gas is really expensive at
(17:01):
the time, and it's like, well, you know, and then
we got to one of the shows and there was
no show, right, But this is this is the gift
of that, is that the local record store again having
those kind of five entities in every city, Like I
hit that record store up and they're like, oh, wait.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
A minute, now, we'll get you a show. Hold on.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And then all of a sudden, like this scene kind
of rallied for us and like put the show together
at this video arcade and we're like awesome, you know,
and so we still ended up with a gig.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Anyway. It's like those stories are so much fun.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
And that's the beauty of right. I remember, Sure I
had a show I booked in my early twenties, either
tour and we got to the venue or that it
was a skate park and oh the show was yesterday.
I sid fuck, I messed that up. Yeah, well then
we'll figure something out for it. It's like okay, you know,
or we got to Austin and the band who was
setting up the show for us had broken up the
week before, and so they canceled the show but didn't
(17:50):
tell us, right, And this is like, you know, two
thousand and one.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Sure, so like you know, it's there.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Is email, but there's not there's not texting, there's not
even space yet, right, you know? I remember the first
time I booked really far, big out of town bands,
like it was like ninety four ninety five and I
brought less than Jake and against authority have to play
a coffee shop in Fairfax, Virginia, and I got grounded
for a week because I called Gainesville a long distance
(18:19):
and when I didn't do it at night like when
the cheaper time, and my dad just lost his shit.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Oh that's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
What a I know?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I was a kid, right right? No, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well that's awesome, man. So I'm excited for this album
to come out.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
So is it talk about the album?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Is it is it multiple tracks or like you said,
it's like the Sadeay side B.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, it'll be the full sing like about twenty two
minutes on each side. Okay, twelve inch record. Yep, Saday
is gonna be live. They played their first club. So
when I started talking to them, I you know, being
from DC, I have friends and whatnot. And I was like,
I'm actually recording this of the band called Pickaxe. Let
(19:02):
me see if they can put you on the show
and record you that night as well. And they're like, oh,
we've only ever played like house shows and basements and backyards.
So they're like, we're playing a real venue now. I
was like yeah, And I don't know, maybe it's like
the teacher in me. I have my own teenage kids,
Like I just really like helping kids because they're so
(19:24):
joyful over the things that we take for granted.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yep. Yeah, I hear that.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I have a show. I do shows here in the
Hudson Valley and I'm doing this one of this place
called the Unicorn Bar that's one of the few venues
that's all ages in this area. And I have two
like queer core riot girl bands coming in, one from
Vermont and one from New Jersey, Squelch and the Burley Girls.
And I'm like, well, you know, I saw this teenage
band called Monafrika play this like benefit show at this
(19:54):
charity that my wife volunteers at. I was like, I
can never put them on the show because most of
the venues are twenty one and over and half of
them won't allow you to play if you're under twenty one. Sure,
I'm going to give these and like they're so excited,
they're so excited to play a show. In their minds,
that's a real show, right.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Right, yep, No, yep, I remember the first real show,
right yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Just the Oh my god, we're actually you.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Know, it's like there's a sound guy, we're on stage drones,
like there's an actual mic in front of my amp, Like,
what's you know?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
It's just like people are buying tickets to come in.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Right in sayed, that's awesome. That's super cool.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Well let's do this.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Let's take a quick break, and then we're going to
come back and talk to you more about the label,
anything you're working on in your bands or other bands
you want to talk about, or anything else under the sun.
So everybody stay with us. Won't be right back all right,
And we're back with Scott from DCPC Live, and we're
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chatting about kind of what's coming up next. For the
label and for Scott overall.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Scott, tell us what you got coming up that you
want to talk about.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I have so many things coming up, you know. As
last year, somehow I managed to press sixteen records, which
is a lot for a guy who works all by himself. Yeah,
the year before that, I'd done nine, six the year
before that, and four the year before. So I don't
know if I'm going to hit sixteen. It depends on
how records sells. I usually fund one record with the next, sure,
but like there's a lot. I'm excited about one big one.
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I don't know if you remember ninety pounds Woos. They
were on Tooth and Nail Records back in the day
with like XPX got it okay, definitely on the more
like aggressive, harder side, not the not the pop punk
and you know Tooth and Nail was that like fairly
religious sort of. Yeah. They have a skewed that they
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reformed at Furnace Fest like last year, and like had
all like anti DeSantis and anti Maga songs and like
gay positive songs, and the record should be out in
time for their return to their first show in like
the Seattle area where they're from. Playing with the middle
aged queers, so I'm really excited to like be their
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first release in decades. Awesome, it's really that's like, that's
like when a band does something like that and they
trust me, yeah, right to do the thing that they
haven't done forever.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Like it really, it's it's really special to me.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yep, no, I hear that. So when is that slated
for them? What's the I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Well, the release show is May thirty. First, I should
be submitting it to press this week. Cool, so usually
my pressing plan takes about twelve weeks, so so March
so early May, and so I'll probably do a pre order.
One of the things I do with every record, my
covers tend to match the old nineteen nineties VML record lives, okay,
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try and pay as much homage to that, and not
only because it represents my roots, but it also tends
to avoid me having to wait for artwork because sometimes
bands take like a year to get me artwork for sure.
So it's very simple. And then what I do is,
whenever the release comes out, I find the corresponding VML record,
buy it on disc hogs, or I wrap up my
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own copy if I can't find one, And so like
the pre ordered people, whoever orders the pre order record
has the option of like winning the test press or
the or the record. I said test press because like
the last record I just did, wh two, I'm mature
on the snorts, it was a teen idols test press.
That's all I could find of the VML. So I
like forty bucks for a test press and gave it
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away free to somebody.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I'm just that kind of guy, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So right on, man, Well, what else do you got
coming up? Is there any other specific artists or anything
you're working on creatively?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah, So, like right now, I'm working on different bands
I'm trying to do. I am working on my first
I hate I have to state to call it a festival.
It's happening in April. I'm calling it a rally in
the Valley. It's a two day event. It's four year
anniversary of my record label, and I'm gonna have anywhere
from twelve to sixteen bands playing. But they're all bands
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on either released records or I have records in the
works for so I'm really kind of excited to accelebrate
the label and it's my forty ninth birthday. And I'm
avoiding the whole term fest because something in my mind says,
if it's a fest it can't just be at the venue,
the same venue all day and that's just a really
long show.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
That's sure fair enough.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
So I just struggle with calling something a festive. You
just put I was like, if there's no food trucks,
there's not a bunch of vendors, you're not moving locations,
You're just booking a really long show.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, well, I hope that goes well.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Man, that sounds like a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I had I ran a label out of Minneapolis for
a while, and we had a read kind of a
twenty year anniversary show a few years ago, and it
was it was yeah, definitely was not a festival, but
it was like a really long show in a venue.
But it was like eight bands and it was all
a bunch of different artists kind of came back together
to do it, and it was a really cool I mean, yeah,
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it was a celebration of sure what we did when
it was you know, kind of more fresh and in
full of fervor, you know, like when we were younger,
but at the same time. It was like this awesome
reunion of everybody coming together and really celebrating the music
and all the accomplishments that everybody had, which was really fun.
So I'm excited for you that you get to do that,
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even for your four anniversary.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Man, I mean, that's awesome, that's huge.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah. I was like, I'm booking Sunday mattine as well.
I'm sorry, Sunday early evening shows at this place in Kingston,
New York. I got called out on the Facebook for
calling in a matine because Mattine's have to start before
four o'clock and my show started four, so it's not
really a matinee. It's an early finish show, okay. And
I'm like, okay, you're very pedantic, and it's.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Like, that's that's crazy, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
So but you know, so I was like, okay, I'm
doing these. I'm doing one in April's like it's my birthday.
It's the anversitary of the label. I wanted to do
something like this for a while, but I've been in transition,
Like I just moved to New York two years ago
for my PhD. I was all right, I feel stabilized,
I've got enough of a hold of the local system.
I put out local bands records or I'm recording them
so I can have a mix of local bands and
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bands from d C and Baltimore and New York City
and hopefully Ohio. None of the bands from like Florida
or California can make it out. But that's okay, I
get it. It's it's a long haul. Sure, maybe and
maybe if I do it a second year and I
and I prove it has value.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well yeah, you know, I mean, it's it's just great
that you got so much support from the roster of
artists that you've worked with and put out their music,
you know, and I just think it's awesome that they're
all coming together to make it happen.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Yeah, it's it's a celebration, which is like, to me,
is like just the best thing in order. And hopefully
the I mentioned with you earlier, my wife and I
are doing the the cover band of songs and we're
probably going to open up the show on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Oh cool.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
So I was like, you know, let's do this, and
like we'll have five songs will open up the show.
I'm not sure if I'm going to have my other
band I'm working on ready to go yet, but like
I'm itsing to play drums. I haven't played since September.
You know, what you think is a drummer should be
easy to find a band, But I want a band?
What people I want to hang out with?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah? Right, No, I understand that completely.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
It's you know, it's not always easy.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I completely I resemble that comment.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
No, I completely understand that totally.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So where is the best place then for everybody to
find all of the artists that are going to participate
in the show, anything you're working on, the bands are
releasing specifically five or four Plan and DCPC Live overall?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Is it just socials?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Do you have a specific band camp label page?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I actually just have a website that I prefer. I
have a band, but I prefer my website just dc
PC live dot com. It has links to all the
bands as links to all the albums, t shirts. Plus
like a podcast that I just started like a month
ago as well, awesome So, which is called Scenes Support
where I interview people that are not in bands. So
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like I record interview people who are recording engineers, promoters,
graphic artists, zine creators, t shirt screen printers, like all
the people that make shit run because I kind of
feel like ninety percent of the time we talked to bands,
but without all the other people behind the scenes, it
wouldn't happen. Maybe I said that because I'm also behind
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the scenes. Guy.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, no, I hear that completely. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I will personally look forward to checking that out. And
right so, DCPC live dot com is the best place
to get yes, best.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
At Instagram is probably where I'm most active on social media. Cool.
I mean, there's there's Facebook, but it's I don't go
there very often. I didn't even have a cross posts
and I just started blue Sky. But you know, I'm
a busy man. It's hard to post that my social media.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
You know, I was like, I tried to get my
sixteen year old to do tiktoks for me, and she
does a pretty easy job, but she got bored.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And sure, yeah, that's that's a nut that I have
yet to crack. Is TikTok for real? Like, I mean,
I get it, but it's yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, And even then, nine times out of ten I
just posted live videos. But if I was like promoting
a show, I would ask her to like make some
sort of like, hey, make some sort of announcement about
the show, and he didn't want. Based on that TV
show Euphoria years ago, Oh sure, it like blew up.
I was like, look at you, that's all.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I was like, I don't really know what it has
to do with the show at all.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Right, but it got success. That's good.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Yeah. I was like, oh, kid, I don't know. So
it's it's so weird, like trying to navi gate that
world when I'm really an analog sort of guy.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Sure no, I yep, I understand that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Also, Like I'm interested when you said just one thing
I wanted to circle back to about the band. You
talked about them recording on a four track in their basement.
Immediately I'm having visions of my task cam cassette four
track recorded. I'm like, that can't be what they were using.
But I'm like, maybe it very well could be, very
well could be, you know, And that's super exciting to hear,
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because I mean, right, like the one.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Kid's dad was an old eighties hardcore guy from like
La Okay, so he probably was like, get this four track,
don't just like, grab pro Tools on your laptop and
put up some speakers. The four tracks the way to go.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
I'm sure pro Tools is fine. I wouldn't know, but
people always ask me since I do live records, like, oh,
do you do the recordings? I'm like, no, right, no,
I don't. I don't have that skill set. I I
I work with people that know what they're doing. The
closest thing I've ever done is for Florida Underground Fast.
I flew down there and I had downloaded a free
version of Reaper, and the sound guy at Will's Pub,
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Tony Murphy or Tony Budd as he's often called, like,
showed me how to hook my laptop up to US
thirty two like channel board and record each band like
and then save it as a project. But then I
got home, I was like, how do I export these
as wave files? And I had to watch like YouTube
videos like it's not my skill set.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
No, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I used to use pro Tools for a little bit,
and funny enough of Buddy Mine turned me onto Reaper.
He's like, the license is way cheaper, and it's just
it's fairly easy to use comparatively to pro Tools which
I agree it is. But yeah, some of those things,
like how do you just export all these tracks to
their individual wave files? Is not the most intuitive thing
in the planet. But no, that's cool though. I certainly
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appreciate the old school analog approach, and it's fun to
hear that the that the five or four planner are
rocking that on a you know, hopefully a cassette four
track as well, but.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Hopefully am I am opposed to the resurgence of the
cassette tapes.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
That to me, you know, it's funny you say that.
That almost feels I don't frankly get it a little
bit like it's a little bit of is this just
another thing to sell? Or is this like that seems
such like a deliberate specific you have to go really
out of your way, use case to even listen to it.
That I'm like, how's who's doing that?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Like I don't have a player, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
I remember, I think it was twenty sixteen seventeen, my
band in Florida played a release show for a band
and they had cassettes and I was like poking the
bear and I bought a T shirt that had like
the cassette tapes and a pencil fixing it, and then
I bought a bunch of pencils and sold them as
cassette repair kits next to their table. And I guess
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it was kind of like not the nicest thing to do,
but I hope they found humor in it.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Well it's about I sure do.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's awesome, like good job, Like that's hilarious, awesome.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
But I recently had a buddy of mine. He plays
a man called a symbol and he does like solo stuff,
Matthew William Charles, and he sent me a text messag
because he's heard me diatribe about tapes before, and he's like, sure,
I saw a lot of tapes, and a lot of
them are really good quality. They're not all like cheap
like crappy tapes. And I'm like, I get it, And
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maybe there are people out there that actually like buy
them and put them in their walkman somewhere that they
have because they watch Guardians of Galaxy and then they
bought a walkman. I saw eight Burners do that years ago.
But like I imagine most people just get it and put
it on like their shelf, the same way you buy
like a figurine, right, And that's fine, but I want
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to put out music that people listen to.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
That being said, I think studies always showed that, like
most people don't even listen to half the records they.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
A Well, there's that, yeah, to.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Be to be fair, I try and listen to a
record every day minimum, but even there are days where
I don't have time to sit down and listen to
a record, and all my listening is on like streaming
services in my car.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I mean, I do my best to support any artists
that I know that is putting out vinyl that I
you know, like and love. I buy their vinyl. I
have a turntable, And does it always get used. No,
because I'm either streaming it from the band camp app
or I'm you know, a different social or streaming service,
because then I can just hear it while I'm driving
or doing something else. But I always want to support
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anyone who's who's putting out vinyl just because.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
And that's what's so fascinating with my releases. Some bands
don't want to put put the releases on streaming at all,
probably in some cases because like while they're live and
we have the studio versions of the same song, so
why double them up? Some people just want to keep
the vinyl special and unique. Some people just don't want
to pay to do it. And I'm not paying for
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it because it gives me nothing, So I put out
the record. I'm not paying for your digital That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
That is awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Well, Scott, thank you so much for all of this. Man,
It's been super cool, like getting to know you what
you do and your passion behind all of this, all
the bands you're helping, all the music you're putting out,
and I'm just super stoked for everything you're up to.
And I really appreciate you reaching out and I'm glad
we were able to chat today.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Man, I appreciate you, and I appreciate everything you're doing.
I'm going to continue checking out your podcast, buddy.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Thanks Scott.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Pre Trouss Beside break Down.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
Shown my therapist a song I dude, and she told
me I was talent, said, I said, thanks, I wrote
it when I was depressed.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Are you proud of me?
Speaker 8 (36:02):
So Massa Kaiah just to change moments and they stopped
mac dosage instead. I said, thanks, anew I could count
on you.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Trust me.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I'm a doctor.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Saying it gets worse before it gets better.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
If the glasses umble doesn't.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Actually matter, and what doesn't kill you just makes you
said it, So I'll just.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Play all right. And that wraps up another episode of
the B Side Breakdown. I want to thank Scott Pass
from DCPC Live Records for coming along to talk about
the song called to Action by the band five oh
four Plan that he just recently released. I just want
to thank Adam Koolong and Carry Bosel for helping me
put together the jingle you hear at the beginning and
the end of the episode. Uh in the background, you're
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listening to a song called Sayaya Duk by Indoor Friends.
If you like what you're hearing, please go back and
listen to the previous episode because that's what it was
all about. Up next, I'm having a redo of an
episode with the Snorts.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
We recorded an episode and.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I don't know how, but I completely lost the conversation
and Aaron's unbelievable sweetheart and willing to do this again.
So we're gonna chat about the song possibly weird but okay,
but maybe others on their record, and I'm super stoked
for you to hear that, so I'm gonna play weird
but okay for you at the end of this to
give you a taste anyway. Thank you everyone for your
continued support. Please subscribe to this podcast wherever you get
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your podcasts and us stay staying out there and stay
safe if you can, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Up in the morning, been along with the world and
free thirty a Bora.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Three thirty four.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Nothing on my mind except all the noise of Existential track,
followed by the club already up, already.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Knowing exactly lion at this bad.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Wasn't something that
Speaker 1 (38:42):
When
Three TROS B Side Breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey everyone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown. My name
is Brett Johnson and I am your host. This is
episode thirty six of a podcast where I talk with
other artists, musicians and songwriters about a song they've written
that's meaningful to them that they want to chat about
and get deep into the why behind it. But first
I need permission from them to play it for you
and its entirety so you can hear it before we
have our chat. So you know what we're talking about today.
(00:28):
We're gonna do something a little bit different. Actually, gonna
be talking with Scott Pash from DCPC Live Records about
a song called Call to Action from a band called
five oh four Plan. Now, the story here is that
five oh four Plan is a high school band and
Scott is putting out their record, and so this is
a song from their record. But I'm gonna be talking
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with Scott about it, not necessarily the guys from five
O four Plan. Okay, makes sense, cool, So let's get
into it. Here's a song called to Action by five
oh four Plan.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
What's a call action?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That is the complaction that trump the form the rain
Watch Ship puddy around.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You gotta take book just they take that. All the
kids like me, corsecared of war might company. You got
the freedom, they got the choice. Stuck, crap, shanks, don't
you do what the ch like the g the mister
(01:42):
I do. It's hard to make that transition to like them.
He realize you have to make a dumb decision so
that all the kids like me horse scared of war
might company.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You got the freedom, they.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Got the choice.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Stuck, crap shanks, don't.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You go to the d Yeah like the ge.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
All right? And that was called to action by five
oh four Plan.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We're gonna take a quick break and come back and
talk with Scott Pass from DCPC Live Records about the band,
about the song and anything else he has going on
with the label. So stay with us and we'll be all.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Right back all right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And that was the song called to action by five
oh four Plan. I have Scott from the label DCPC
Live here to chat with me about it. Scott, thanks
so much for taking some time this evening to talk
about this band, the song and what's going on with you.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Awesome. Thanks, Brettan I appreciate it. Yeah, you want to
get a start of a spire a question or how
do we roll with that?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, I'm just interested in, you know, tell me about
so transparently, listeners. This is the first time I'm forraying
into the space of not talking directly to the artist.
I'm talking to the label rep which is or the
owner of the label that's putting out this record, or
however we want to say that, Scott, feel free to
correct me and I'll yeah, that.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Works fine, that's appropriate.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So yeah, yeah, tell me about it.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
So, like, these are a bunch of young kids. They
are juniors in high school in DC. And as for
my record label's name, I like my Heart and Soul
is in DC. I was part of that hardcore scene
from the early nineties, like ninety one all the way
through like two thousand and eight. Awesome, and like out
of nowhere, these kids just sent me a message and said, hey,
we like what you're doing. We bought some of your records.
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Would you ever consider working with us. We're just a
small high school band. And I listened to their demos,
I was like and I watched them live video. I
was like, fuck, this is good. Yeah, this is good.
And I live in upstate New York now like just
an hour south of Albany. And then they're coming to Brooklyn.
So I did like a five hour round trip to
drop my kid off, and my mom's in Pennsylvania, so
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my wife was out of town to go see them
at some like basement show in Brooklyn and they just
killed it. I was like, yeah, let's do a record.
So that's where this song comes in. It's a studio song,
which is interesting because I normally do live albums.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Sure, oh okay, got it.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
But I have a concept called live and Dead where
it's studio or it's live on Sariday and studio on
side B.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
So I'm also a history teacher. I was political science major,
you know, very common in DC area, and I'm getting
my PhD now in civic and civic engagement. And this
song is all about politics and it's a much of
DC kids. And they were like, look, Scott, I know
her album isn't going to be out for a couple
of months. Still we're still mixing the live side. Can
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we put this out now? We need to put it
out now. What's happening in this country. It needs to
happen now. And like there's like I'm an old person.
I'm almost fifty, is like, oh yeah, a song isn't
going to change anything. But then it goes like how
much did songs change me? From propagandhi to like contradict
to bad religion? And I'm like, you know these kids,
(05:01):
like they're so emphatic about it. I was like, yeah, yeah,
fuck you, let's just get it out there, let's put
it out, let's let's do it. And the song is
just rat and it just it's it's pure old like
eighties style deces or with a little bit like maybe
seven seconds in there. Sure, And I love the lyrics.
I love the honesty of it, Like this is like
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how he like honestly feels he's not putting up a front.
He's like I think kids in my area are apathetic
and think that because it's over, there's nothing else for
them to do. They lost the election and now they
just have to sit back and do nothing. And I
think people can do more. And I just love the
honesty of it, Like it's reminds me of like when
I was younger, and like we would read about like
revolution summer and all the stuff that like the Discord
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bands did in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Sure, No, that's that's awesome, man, And it's so I
have to tell you right, take him back by just
listening to him like, wait, okay, because not knowing prior
to the call that we're having that okay, wait, this
can't be this. This can't be Scott's band, because it
just didn't sound like like the energy of it is
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is exactly high school. I'm like, unless this is, you know,
an older thing, but it doesn't sound like I don't
mean that in any kind of negative way other than
it is so full of piss and vinegar and and
and the awesome kind of that fire that you know,
I remember just being in high school in the Minneapolis,
you know, hardcore scene that I used to frequent and
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be a part of. Like it was really fun to
see like those bands and the ferocity they had in
the punk and hardcore side of it no matter what,
and when everybody would come together and just like there
was so much energy. And I missed the Sunday matinee
shows that were all ages where everybody could kind of
hang out, you know, and do all that. But it
just this sounds like it just reminds me of all
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of that and it's that Yeah, it's it's that focused
raw energy that just sounds amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So I'm super stoked to hear it. Thanks for sharing
it with me.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, and it was actually recorded. So when I did
the process with him, where do we record the studio at?
Like we've never recorded except for like in our basement
on like a four track, right, Like I know some studios.
How would you like to record with like Donzie and
Tara from inter Ear like inter Ear, like Minder Threat, Fukasis,
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you can do that. I was like, yeah, I mean
his name is in the phone book, but like I
have met him. My old band recorded with him after
I left the band. But like, if you want to
talk to him, he still records that it was studio
shut down, but he's still doing bands in his basement
and like he still prefers if he can to record
bands in the most natural state, which to him is
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usually practice. So he tries to record them as live
as possible with as few overdubs as possible for sure,
which I think will fit you your style very well.
And so they were like ife shitting over the fact
that they got to record with Donzie and Tara.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
That's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So did this So is this officially out yet or
when does it come out?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
So we have already mixed the entire studio side, the
dead side O the live side is currently being mixed,
and then they both have to get like mastered for vinyl,
and then I've got to send it out to my guests.
Sometime this month, I'm going to send it to press,
and it probably takes two or three months. So let's see,
it's early February, so I would say April May it'll
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be out. Oh. The kids are planning their first tour
and I did a zoom call with them, and I
know it's funny I'm calling them kids, but like they are.
They're like they're they're under eighteen, right, And they first
were asking me to help book their tour for them,
and I was like, well, what do you What do
you have in mind? Like, oh, we want to go
from DC. We want to do a kickoff show in DC,
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hit Pennsylvania, hit New York City, hit Massachusetts, then go
to New Orleans. I'm like, I'm sorry, what the fuck
did you say?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Hold on a second, hold on, hold on, Hey, We've
not done this before.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It's like, no, no, no, no, it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
So, like that was a text message they sent me.
So we need to have a zoom call to talk
about this. We have the zoom call. First off, you
don't play DC or Baltimore because you can play DC
in Baltimore anytime, and you don't need to waste one
of your twelve days on your tour doing that. Right,
all right, You've played in New York City at least
two or three times that I'm aware of, so you
obviously can do that as well. You said new Orleans?
(09:23):
Why and we really really want to go there? I
was like, so that's your destination, that's your midway point.
So we're gonna tour to New Orleans, play there, and
then turn around and come back up Like, oh, like
play shows on the way. I was like, yeah, yeah,
Blake shows on the way.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That's so great. Oh that's super fun.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
What what a fun adventure that those dudes are gonna have.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So the inevitable question, just being the style of the
band and and what's going on.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Is are so are you okay?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Uh, I'll say this, are you formally booking them?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Are you actually acting as their their booking agent in
this capacity, Are you just helping them book this first tour?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Well, I was going to, but then after the conversation
I really thought about it, and I told them that
I have a spreadsheet with like two thousand bands, fifteen
hundred venues and promoters that I've collected over the years
of my own work, And I was like, you know,
I'd rather like give this to you, like I had
book your own fucking life when I.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Was exactly, and you just need to do.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
This yourself, Like I can help you need to. I
can highlight the bands and the promoters that I know
personally that you can name drop me if you want to.
But I think there's a joy in booking your own
show for your own first tour. We're good or ill,
whatever happens, even if you play to like no One,
or you get there and the venue has been burned
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down or whatever the problems are, Like, there's a joy
to that.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
There is.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I don't want to go like, oh, yeah, Scott booked
our whole tour for us. I'm like, well, then we're
you gonna do what I'm not around the next time. Yeah,
for sure to book your own first tour. And so
they told me they're starting on it then to get
their parents' permission to even start the process, which is great.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
That's the one that can run a van. They're all
under twenty five.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Sure, sure, so that's cool.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So I hope they I hope that you know, I've
I've interviewed a handful of bands that play FEST, and
I really hope that they catch the Fest folks catch it.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
When of these folks or catch which a whiff of.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Five or four plane and bring him down, because it
would be so much fun to see them.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I always send an email off to Tony Weinbender, who
does all this stuff, and say, these are all the
bands on my label. These are the ones that have
already played Fest before. These are the ones that I
think you should look at as well.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Then sometimes he bites, sometimes he doesn't bite. Sure, that's okay.
He probably gets thousands and thousands of emails.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Oh I'm sure, No, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So then if this isn't coming out till March or April,
I mean, I'm happy to pause the release of this
episode to coincide kind of with that.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
So if you want, and I'll.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Edit, smind you oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like if you
want me to kind of time it so we can,
because you know, that's the whole point of this really,
I mean, in the spirit of DIY and like let's
all kind of grow bigger together if we can, like
let's do that like naturally and organically.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's like I want to be able to.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Make sure that whatever tool this can serve to help
them along and create exposure for them and their fans
and new.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
People and everybody else, that they get it right.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And and that's the whole fun and joy of this
for me is then I get I get hit up
by you know, Scott who listened to the Jeff episode
and is like, hey, man, can like you know, we
chat about this. I'm like, hell yeah, dude, Like that's
the whole point of this, Like yes, so, I mean
that's cool.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Jeff for over twenty years.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Oh that's interesting, that's fun.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So he used to play in a DC band called
vpr Okay. He was from Pennsylvania, but he would he
was going to college at American University, where my wife
went to school, and he joined that band, but he
was also playing in the Boils. And then when my
old band, the Over privilege toward Europe. He was over
there and I think Berlin or somewhere studying abroad, and
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he came out to like a couple of our shows there.
So I got him to play Divided. Haven't actually played
my old school I used to teach fifth grade at.
Oh wow, it was a secular school but owned by Mormons. Interesting,
So I got him. I got him to be able
to play the show before. He was playing like a
club later that night and had what's his face Joey
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from the Briggs also with him.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Oh wow wow.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
So like, and two of those kids are now in
a band whose record I've done two records for that
for that for that band. So two kids that saw
him are now in their own like punk rock band.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So No, that's fun to see how that all gets
passed along and how that's all intertwined.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Now, that's super cool.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And that's one of the reasons I want to work
with these kids, because even when I talk to them,
they're like, you know, we're all like graduating in a
year and a half. I'm probably going to break up.
Like two of us are applying to go to Berkeley.
I was like, okay, or you're gonna go on tour,
realize this is all you ever want to do, and
you're gonna finish your senior year of high school and
you're gonna ask my mom and dad to get let
you defer or you're gonna tour in the summer. It's
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like you many bands go to college and still play.
I was like, I'm not even stressing, And if you
do break up, that's fine. The album was worth it anyway. Yep.
It's a snapshot of history that mattered. I think your
band matters, so I want to put it out.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That's awesome. I'm grateful for you doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean, it's it's really cool to hear it and
to hear again just that that that's out there, that
you know, Uh, there's people like you that are still
working with you know, young doy bands that want to
put out music and go on tour and do the
deal and and just see all that's still happening and
kind of the crazy way that things generally operate today,
which is I mean, yeah, you book your own fucking life, man.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I mean right, it's like I just my life.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Literally, Like musicians got to touring and promotion pre internet.
It's like, okay, so how am I right? Which venues?
Like I identified the five major things in every city,
like the indie record store, the indie radio station, the
independent rag that will put it out, what venue, and
who is the best band that I should try to
book a show with, exact and then just constantly networking
in every single city with all those folks. And right,
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I'm not trying to go play.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Hudson, Wisconsin. When I live in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's like, no, first stop, Chicago, first stop, Kansas City,
and then we're on our way to Texas.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's like yeah, and you know, it's fun that you
brought up like that. No, you guys, go book your
own first tour because yeah, same thing I did. Yeah,
and just like said venues that you know, I didn't
know anything about advancing shows when I booked my first tour,
So I'm like, I booked it, we got a show, yeah,
And then we show up and they're like, who are
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you guys.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I'm like, well, dude, I booked a show with that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, Like I got fired like three months ago, and
I'm like, ohit, you.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Know, and then order to check up and we're to
follow right right point of contact, getting all the information and.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Who's you if you're getting paid and all that, right.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
I mean, it's it's like I booked tours for other
bands before out of just like you know, I'm helping them.
Oh yeah, we want to plan a day off. It's like,
you don't plan a day off, Like, what do you mean,
Or we're doing a three week tour, we should have
a day off. I was like, you'll have one. There's
always a day off. There's nothing evident light, but eventually
some show is going to get canceled for some reason
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or another. It just happens. So don't plan a day off.
Maybe one if you really are in a city you
really want to hang out at or something. But for
the most part, you just book everything and hope everything
goes fine. I remember once I went to California and
back and we were in Iowa, and then every show
coming back on canceled.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's awful.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I was like, well, that's a long fucking drive.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah it is, Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I remember we Yeah, I was in a similar boat
where we decided to go south from Minneapolis to San Antonio,
then west to San Diego and try to hit you know,
like Albuquerque and Phoenix on the way or something, and
it was like, yeah, we didn't plan that out very
well in the middle of August in a van with
no air conditioning, like you know, eight to twelve hour
drives in between city and gas is really expensive at
(17:01):
the time, and it's like, well, you know, and then
we got to one of the shows and there was
no show, right, But this is this is the gift
of that, is that the local record store again having
those kind of five entities in every city, Like I
hit that record store up and they're like, oh, wait.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
A minute, now, we'll get you a show. Hold on.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And then all of a sudden, like this scene kind
of rallied for us and like put the show together
at this video arcade and we're like awesome, you know,
and so we still ended up with a gig.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Anyway. It's like those stories are so much fun.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
And that's the beauty of right. I remember, Sure I
had a show I booked in my early twenties, either
tour and we got to the venue or that it
was a skate park and oh the show was yesterday.
I sid fuck, I messed that up. Yeah, well then
we'll figure something out for it. It's like okay, you know,
or we got to Austin and the band who was
setting up the show for us had broken up the
week before, and so they canceled the show but didn't
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tell us, right, And this is like, you know, two
thousand and one.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Sure, so like you know, it's there.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Is email, but there's not there's not texting, there's not
even space yet, right, you know? I remember the first
time I booked really far, big out of town bands,
like it was like ninety four ninety five and I
brought less than Jake and against authority have to play
a coffee shop in Fairfax, Virginia, and I got grounded
for a week because I called Gainesville a long distance
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and when I didn't do it at night like when
the cheaper time, and my dad just lost his shit.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Oh that's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
What a I know?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I was a kid, right right? No, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well that's awesome, man. So I'm excited for this album
to come out.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
So is it talk about the album?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Is it is it multiple tracks or like you said,
it's like the Sadeay side B.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, it'll be the full sing like about twenty two
minutes on each side. Okay, twelve inch record. Yep, Saday
is gonna be live. They played their first club. So
when I started talking to them, I you know, being
from DC, I have friends and whatnot. And I was like,
I'm actually recording this of the band called Pickaxe. Let
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me see if they can put you on the show
and record you that night as well. And they're like, oh,
we've only ever played like house shows and basements and backyards.
So they're like, we're playing a real venue now. I
was like yeah, And I don't know, maybe it's like
the teacher in me. I have my own teenage kids,
Like I just really like helping kids because they're so
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joyful over the things that we take for granted.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yep. Yeah, I hear that.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I have a show. I do shows here in the
Hudson Valley and I'm doing this one of this place
called the Unicorn Bar that's one of the few venues
that's all ages in this area. And I have two
like queer core riot girl bands coming in, one from
Vermont and one from New Jersey, Squelch and the Burley Girls.
And I'm like, well, you know, I saw this teenage
band called Monafrika play this like benefit show at this
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charity that my wife volunteers at. I was like, I
can never put them on the show because most of
the venues are twenty one and over and half of
them won't allow you to play if you're under twenty one. Sure,
I'm going to give these and like they're so excited,
they're so excited to play a show. In their minds,
that's a real show, right.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Right, yep, No, yep, I remember the first real show,
right yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Just the Oh my god, we're actually you.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Know, it's like there's a sound guy, we're on stage drones,
like there's an actual mic in front of my amp, Like,
what's you know?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
It's just like people are buying tickets to come in.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Right in sayed, that's awesome. That's super cool.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Well let's do this.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Let's take a quick break, and then we're going to
come back and talk to you more about the label,
anything you're working on in your bands or other bands
you want to talk about, or anything else under the sun.
So everybody stay with us. Won't be right back all right,
And we're back with Scott from DCPC Live, and we're
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chatting about kind of what's coming up next. For the
label and for Scott overall.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Scott, tell us what you got coming up that you
want to talk about.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I have so many things coming up, you know. As
last year, somehow I managed to press sixteen records, which
is a lot for a guy who works all by himself. Yeah,
the year before that, I'd done nine, six the year
before that, and four the year before. So I don't
know if I'm going to hit sixteen. It depends on
how records sells. I usually fund one record with the next, sure,
but like there's a lot. I'm excited about one big one.
(21:35):
I don't know if you remember ninety pounds Woos. They
were on Tooth and Nail Records back in the day
with like XPX got it okay, definitely on the more
like aggressive, harder side, not the not the pop punk
and you know Tooth and Nail was that like fairly
religious sort of. Yeah. They have a skewed that they
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reformed at Furnace Fest like last year, and like had
all like anti DeSantis and anti Maga songs and like
gay positive songs, and the record should be out in
time for their return to their first show in like
the Seattle area where they're from. Playing with the middle
aged queers, so I'm really excited to like be their
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first release in decades. Awesome, it's really that's like, that's
like when a band does something like that and they
trust me, yeah, right to do the thing that they
haven't done forever.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Like it really, it's it's really special to me.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yep, no, I hear that. So when is that slated
for them? What's the I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Well, the release show is May thirty. First, I should
be submitting it to press this week. Cool, so usually
my pressing plan takes about twelve weeks, so so March
so early May, and so I'll probably do a pre order.
One of the things I do with every record, my
covers tend to match the old nineteen nineties VML record lives, okay,
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try and pay as much homage to that, and not
only because it represents my roots, but it also tends
to avoid me having to wait for artwork because sometimes
bands take like a year to get me artwork for sure.
So it's very simple. And then what I do is,
whenever the release comes out, I find the corresponding VML record,
buy it on disc hogs, or I wrap up my
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own copy if I can't find one, And so like
the pre ordered people, whoever orders the pre order record
has the option of like winning the test press or
the or the record. I said test press because like
the last record I just did, wh two, I'm mature
on the snorts, it was a teen idols test press.
That's all I could find of the VML. So I
like forty bucks for a test press and gave it
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away free to somebody.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I'm just that kind of guy, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So right on, man, Well, what else do you got
coming up? Is there any other specific artists or anything
you're working on creatively?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah, So, like right now, I'm working on different bands
I'm trying to do. I am working on my first
I hate I have to state to call it a festival.
It's happening in April. I'm calling it a rally in
the Valley. It's a two day event. It's four year
anniversary of my record label, and I'm gonna have anywhere
from twelve to sixteen bands playing. But they're all bands
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on either released records or I have records in the
works for so I'm really kind of excited to accelebrate
the label and it's my forty ninth birthday. And I'm
avoiding the whole term fest because something in my mind says,
if it's a fest it can't just be at the venue,
the same venue all day and that's just a really
long show.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
That's sure fair enough.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
So I just struggle with calling something a festive. You
just put I was like, if there's no food trucks,
there's not a bunch of vendors, you're not moving locations,
You're just booking a really long show.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, well, I hope that goes well.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Man, that sounds like a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I had I ran a label out of Minneapolis for
a while, and we had a read kind of a
twenty year anniversary show a few years ago, and it
was it was yeah, definitely was not a festival, but
it was like a really long show in a venue.
But it was like eight bands and it was all
a bunch of different artists kind of came back together
to do it, and it was a really cool I mean, yeah,
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it was a celebration of sure what we did when
it was you know, kind of more fresh and in
full of fervor, you know, like when we were younger,
but at the same time. It was like this awesome
reunion of everybody coming together and really celebrating the music
and all the accomplishments that everybody had, which was really fun.
So I'm excited for you that you get to do that,
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even for your four anniversary.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Man, I mean, that's awesome, that's huge.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah. I was like, I'm booking Sunday mattine as well.
I'm sorry, Sunday early evening shows at this place in Kingston,
New York. I got called out on the Facebook for
calling in a matine because Mattine's have to start before
four o'clock and my show started four, so it's not
really a matinee. It's an early finish show, okay. And
I'm like, okay, you're very pedantic, and it's.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Like, that's that's crazy, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
So but you know, so I was like, okay, I'm
doing these. I'm doing one in April's like it's my birthday.
It's the anversitary of the label. I wanted to do
something like this for a while, but I've been in transition,
Like I just moved to New York two years ago
for my PhD. I was all right, I feel stabilized,
I've got enough of a hold of the local system.
I put out local bands records or I'm recording them
so I can have a mix of local bands and
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bands from d C and Baltimore and New York City
and hopefully Ohio. None of the bands from like Florida
or California can make it out. But that's okay, I
get it. It's it's a long haul. Sure, maybe and
maybe if I do it a second year and I
and I prove it has value.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well yeah, you know, I mean, it's it's just great
that you got so much support from the roster of
artists that you've worked with and put out their music,
you know, and I just think it's awesome that they're
all coming together to make it happen.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Yeah, it's it's a celebration, which is like, to me,
is like just the best thing in order. And hopefully
the I mentioned with you earlier, my wife and I
are doing the the cover band of songs and we're
probably going to open up the show on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Oh cool.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
So I was like, you know, let's do this, and
like we'll have five songs will open up the show.
I'm not sure if I'm going to have my other
band I'm working on ready to go yet, but like
I'm itsing to play drums. I haven't played since September.
You know, what you think is a drummer should be
easy to find a band, But I want a band?
What people I want to hang out with?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah? Right, No, I understand that completely.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
It's you know, it's not always easy.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I completely I resemble that comment.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
No, I completely understand that totally.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So where is the best place then for everybody to
find all of the artists that are going to participate
in the show, anything you're working on, the bands are
releasing specifically five or four Plan and DCPC Live overall?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Is it just socials?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Do you have a specific band camp label page?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I actually just have a website that I prefer. I
have a band, but I prefer my website just dc
PC live dot com. It has links to all the
bands as links to all the albums, t shirts. Plus
like a podcast that I just started like a month
ago as well, awesome So, which is called Scenes Support
where I interview people that are not in bands. So
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like I record interview people who are recording engineers, promoters,
graphic artists, zine creators, t shirt screen printers, like all
the people that make shit run because I kind of
feel like ninety percent of the time we talked to bands,
but without all the other people behind the scenes, it
wouldn't happen. Maybe I said that because I'm also behind
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the scenes. Guy.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, no, I hear that completely. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I will personally look forward to checking that out. And
right so, DCPC live dot com is the best place
to get yes, best.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
At Instagram is probably where I'm most active on social media. Cool.
I mean, there's there's Facebook, but it's I don't go
there very often. I didn't even have a cross posts
and I just started blue Sky. But you know, I'm
a busy man. It's hard to post that my social media.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
You know, I was like, I tried to get my
sixteen year old to do tiktoks for me, and she
does a pretty easy job, but she got bored.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And sure, yeah, that's that's a nut that I have
yet to crack. Is TikTok for real? Like, I mean,
I get it, but it's yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, And even then, nine times out of ten I
just posted live videos. But if I was like promoting
a show, I would ask her to like make some
sort of like, hey, make some sort of announcement about
the show, and he didn't want. Based on that TV
show Euphoria years ago, Oh sure, it like blew up.
I was like, look at you, that's all.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I was like, I don't really know what it has
to do with the show at all.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Right, but it got success. That's good.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Yeah. I was like, oh, kid, I don't know. So
it's it's so weird, like trying to navi gate that
world when I'm really an analog sort of guy.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Sure no, I yep, I understand that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Also, Like I'm interested when you said just one thing
I wanted to circle back to about the band. You
talked about them recording on a four track in their basement.
Immediately I'm having visions of my task cam cassette four
track recorded. I'm like, that can't be what they were using.
But I'm like, maybe it very well could be, very
well could be, you know, And that's super exciting to hear,
(30:28):
because I mean, right, like the one.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Kid's dad was an old eighties hardcore guy from like
La Okay, so he probably was like, get this four track,
don't just like, grab pro Tools on your laptop and
put up some speakers. The four tracks the way to go.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
I'm sure pro Tools is fine. I wouldn't know, but
people always ask me since I do live records, like, oh,
do you do the recordings? I'm like, no, right, no,
I don't. I don't have that skill set. I I
I work with people that know what they're doing. The
closest thing I've ever done is for Florida Underground Fast.
I flew down there and I had downloaded a free
version of Reaper, and the sound guy at Will's Pub,
(31:11):
Tony Murphy or Tony Budd as he's often called, like,
showed me how to hook my laptop up to US
thirty two like channel board and record each band like
and then save it as a project. But then I
got home, I was like, how do I export these
as wave files? And I had to watch like YouTube
videos like it's not my skill set.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
No, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I used to use pro Tools for a little bit,
and funny enough of Buddy Mine turned me onto Reaper.
He's like, the license is way cheaper, and it's just
it's fairly easy to use comparatively to pro Tools which
I agree it is. But yeah, some of those things,
like how do you just export all these tracks to
their individual wave files? Is not the most intuitive thing
in the planet. But no, that's cool though. I certainly
(31:51):
appreciate the old school analog approach, and it's fun to
hear that the that the five or four planner are
rocking that on a you know, hopefully a cassette four
track as well, but.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Hopefully am I am opposed to the resurgence of the
cassette tapes.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
That to me, you know, it's funny you say that.
That almost feels I don't frankly get it a little
bit like it's a little bit of is this just
another thing to sell? Or is this like that seems
such like a deliberate specific you have to go really
out of your way, use case to even listen to it.
That I'm like, how's who's doing that?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Like I don't have a player, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
I remember, I think it was twenty sixteen seventeen, my
band in Florida played a release show for a band
and they had cassettes and I was like poking the
bear and I bought a T shirt that had like
the cassette tapes and a pencil fixing it, and then
I bought a bunch of pencils and sold them as
cassette repair kits next to their table. And I guess
(32:56):
it was kind of like not the nicest thing to do,
but I hope they found humor in it.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Well it's about I sure do.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's awesome, like good job, Like that's hilarious, awesome.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
But I recently had a buddy of mine. He plays
a man called a symbol and he does like solo stuff,
Matthew William Charles, and he sent me a text messag
because he's heard me diatribe about tapes before, and he's like, sure,
I saw a lot of tapes, and a lot of
them are really good quality. They're not all like cheap
like crappy tapes. And I'm like, I get it, And
(33:27):
maybe there are people out there that actually like buy
them and put them in their walkman somewhere that they
have because they watch Guardians of Galaxy and then they
bought a walkman. I saw eight Burners do that years ago.
But like I imagine most people just get it and put
it on like their shelf, the same way you buy
like a figurine, right, And that's fine, but I want
(33:51):
to put out music that people listen to.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
That being said, I think studies always showed that, like
most people don't even listen to half the records they.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
A Well, there's that, yeah, to.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Be to be fair, I try and listen to a
record every day minimum, but even there are days where
I don't have time to sit down and listen to
a record, and all my listening is on like streaming
services in my car.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I mean, I do my best to support any artists
that I know that is putting out vinyl that I
you know, like and love. I buy their vinyl. I
have a turntable, And does it always get used. No,
because I'm either streaming it from the band camp app
or I'm you know, a different social or streaming service,
because then I can just hear it while I'm driving
or doing something else. But I always want to support
(34:39):
anyone who's who's putting out vinyl just because.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
And that's what's so fascinating with my releases. Some bands
don't want to put put the releases on streaming at all,
probably in some cases because like while they're live and
we have the studio versions of the same song, so
why double them up? Some people just want to keep
the vinyl special and unique. Some people just don't want
to pay to do it. And I'm not paying for
(35:02):
it because it gives me nothing, So I put out
the record. I'm not paying for your digital That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
That is awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Well, Scott, thank you so much for all of this. Man,
It's been super cool, like getting to know you what
you do and your passion behind all of this, all
the bands you're helping, all the music you're putting out,
and I'm just super stoked for everything you're up to.
And I really appreciate you reaching out and I'm glad
we were able to chat today.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Man, I appreciate you, and I appreciate everything you're doing.
I'm going to continue checking out your podcast, buddy.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Thanks Scott.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Pre Trouss Beside break Down.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
Shown my therapist a song I dude, and she told
me I was talent, said, I said, thanks, I wrote
it when I was depressed.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Are you proud of me?
Speaker 8 (36:02):
So Massa Kaiah just to change moments and they stopped
mac dosage instead. I said, thanks, anew I could count
on you.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Trust me.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I'm a doctor.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Saying it gets worse before it gets better.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
If the glasses umble doesn't.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Actually matter, and what doesn't kill you just makes you
said it, So I'll just.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Play all right. And that wraps up another episode of
the B Side Breakdown. I want to thank Scott Pass
from DCPC Live Records for coming along to talk about
the song called to Action by the band five oh
four Plan that he just recently released. I just want
to thank Adam Koolong and Carry Bosel for helping me
put together the jingle you hear at the beginning and
the end of the episode. Uh in the background, you're
(36:52):
listening to a song called Sayaya Duk by Indoor Friends.
If you like what you're hearing, please go back and
listen to the previous episode because that's what it was
all about. Up next, I'm having a redo of an
episode with the Snorts.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
We recorded an episode and.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I don't know how, but I completely lost the conversation
and Aaron's unbelievable sweetheart and willing to do this again.
So we're gonna chat about the song possibly weird but okay,
but maybe others on their record, and I'm super stoked
for you to hear that, so I'm gonna play weird
but okay for you at the end of this to
give you a taste anyway. Thank you everyone for your
continued support. Please subscribe to this podcast wherever you get
(37:28):
your podcasts and us stay staying out there and stay
safe if you can, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Up in the morning, been along with the world and
free thirty a Bora.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Three thirty four.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Nothing on my mind except all the noise of Existential track,
followed by the club already up, already.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Knowing exactly lion at this bad.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Wasn't something that
Speaker 1 (38:42):
When
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