October 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Take Two...
You'll hear us joke about it in the episode but this was my 2nd attempt at getting Aaron Stoquert from The Snorts on an episode. We pulled up this time around to talk about the song “Butterflies,” off of their 2024 release, "pitter patter", which I can't recommend enough from beginning to end.
If you’re into songs that sprint, sting, and stay with you after they’re over, this one’s a ride. Tune in to hear the full story behind “Butterflies.”
Keep up with The Snorts at:
https://thesnorts.bandcamp.com/
https://www.instagram.com/thesnorts/
Thank you for your continued support!
Brett Johnson
Host of B-Side Breakdown
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#Butterflies #TheSnorts #AaronStoquert #DCxPCLive #bsidebreakdown #threecrowsclub #brettjamesjohnson #musicpodcast
You'll hear us joke about it in the episode but this was my 2nd attempt at getting Aaron Stoquert from The Snorts on an episode. We pulled up this time around to talk about the song “Butterflies,” off of their 2024 release, "pitter patter", which I can't recommend enough from beginning to end.
If you’re into songs that sprint, sting, and stay with you after they’re over, this one’s a ride. Tune in to hear the full story behind “Butterflies.”
Keep up with The Snorts at:
https://thesnorts.bandcamp.com/
https://www.instagram.com/thesnorts/
Thank you for your continued support!
Brett Johnson
Host of B-Side Breakdown
https://www.patreon.com/c/bsidebreakdown
https://www.instagram.com/bsidebreakdown
https://linktr.ee/bsidebreakdown
#Butterflies #TheSnorts #AaronStoquert #DCxPCLive #bsidebreakdown #threecrowsclub #brettjamesjohnson #musicpodcast
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Free tros B Side Breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey everyone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown. My name
is Brett Johnson and I'm your host. This is episode
forty of a podcast where I talk with other artists,
musicians and songwriters about a song they've written that is
meaningful to them that they want to chat about with
me and get deep into the y behind it. But
first they need to give me permission to play the
song in its entirety on this episode, so you the
(00:28):
listener can hear it and have some idea what we're
talking about today. I'm excited to be talking with Aaron
Stoker from the band The Snorts about their song Butterflies.
They are a great band. Their record Petter Patter is
fucking awesome and I really hope you go and buy
it on band camp Friday. But first, here is the
song Butterflies.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Got a face.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Nobody look directing him, get to say the lepp come
the day, go get the face for the money. No,
I mean the recognition nights Old the live. Maybe one
day you would go that free mater. One day we
would say that.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Don't you know it flies over you?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Nobutbuck don't yet, Brod, don't go don't go about, don't don't.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Talk by round the road.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Yet your round no lot does not God yeah, your right.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Around to work right, all right?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And that was Butterflies by the Snorts. We're gonna take
a quick break and come back and talk with Aaron
stokerd about the song, the band and everything that they're
working on. So please stay with us and we'll be
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B Side Breakdown. All right, we'll be back in just
a minute. All right, and we are back. Let's bring
in Aaron Stoker from the Snorts to talk about the
song Butterflies erin. Thank you so much for taking some
time today to talk with me about the song.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
Here are more than welcome, Happy to happy to join,
good to see you or hear from you, Brett, And
I hope everything's cool over there.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Happy to be here?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, No, that's great man. So, yeah, this song is
just ferocious and and I love the lyrics. I have
a sense of where I think they're going. But I
would love to hear from you. Why is it that
this is the song you wanted to talk about today.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
It's a great question.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Uh, this song in particular right now, it's a it's
one of those songs that this is gonna sound super
frigging corny. So and so hopefully hopefully everybody who's listening
is all right with it. But it's one of those
tunes that if you if you write music at any level,
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sometimes you write a song and you go, I don't
know how I did that, And when you're listening back
to it, you know, it's one of those things where
it just kind of it sounds cliche, but it just
comes out out of you as far as like musically
and lyrically, and it just kind of, you know, it's
a little bit of like lightning in a bottle, at
least from from my perspective. So, and I've gotten a
(05:10):
lot of folks after our our our shows or or
you know, I've had some someone recently, as recently as
a couple of weeks ago come up to us and
say this was their favorite song. And so you go
back and and there's a little self indulgence, but go
back and listen to it, and you're like, yeah, I don't,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I don't remember how I did that.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
It wasn't like it's like it's not a math problem
at least, that's not how I write write songs.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
So it's yeah, So there's there's definitely a a kind
of a you know, kind of a.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
Unique character at the party vibe to it where you're
just like that person get invited. That's interesting, you know.
So yeah, that's that's kind of why I want to
chat about it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I guess. No, that's cool, and I'm glad you brought
it up the way you did, and and frankly, I
just completely am supportive of that. And I don't think
it's corny sounding at all, because I get it. I mean,
and I know what that feels like when for me,
a lot of the songs I've written over the years,
like a lot of them sort of show up and
I'm like, I don't. Yeah, just like you said, like
where did that? How did that happen? You know? And
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then when I look back on it, I'm just super
grateful that it's there and that people seem to dig
it or it says what it says, or it means
what it means, and it has all the connotations to
it that I don't necessarily assign to it as I'm
writing it, but I think it's those are some of
the most beautiful things that come out. And yeah, I
mean I think it's that's just a slamming, slamming song.
(06:34):
So it's super fun to hear. So tell me about
when did this song? So actually, let me back up,
so for all of you that don't know the snorts,
I'm just gonna share a little history here. So Aaron
and I talked I think about six months ago, and
we talked about a song called Weird but Okay that's
(06:55):
on their record Pitter Pattern that is just amazing and
you should get it's on in Camp and uh we
chatted about it. For some reason, the technical snaff who
I lost our entire conversation, And so Aaron's been gracious
to come back again to talk about a different song.
This time we're talking about butterflies.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
But I have all this history for everybody who's then
sorry to cut you offer, but that's everybody who's listening,
because it was a party.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
We had a party six months ago, you and I
and you know. But that's just something you and I
are going to have to share.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And that's true.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
That's and that's why I was jumped at the chance
to come back and chat with you, because we had
a great time.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
And we'll just we'll just say that was our own
little that was our own little uh soire that that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We had there there you go, So we had our
own little party. None y'all were invited, and that's just
how it was. But now here we are six months later,
that's cool. And so I have all this history on
you guys because I've been paying attention, you know, for
six months and and more, and so I just want
to kind of give some background for everybody else. So
y'all are from Albany, New York, right.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Yeah, So three of the band members are from from Albany,
New York. I actually live about fifty minutes south of
the rest of the band. But when seventy five percent
of the band is from from one one area, you
kind of build from that area really, so sure, Yeah,
I'm I'm just south of those guys. Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
The positive is Albany has an amazing music scene.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
The spot where I'm at has an amazing music scene,
and so we kind of have this really cool thing back.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
And forth where uh uh the area that I'm in,
we're I'm able to.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
I go to shows basically, you know, two times a
week if if more, if not more, just go to
as an observer, go to you know, to participate in
the in the community. And uh, the community up up
in Albany is amazing too. So but yeah, so it's
it makes sense to me for us to build from
from Albany too.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No, got it. No, that's that's great. And you know,
good on you for getting out and supporting as much
music as you do. The Uh so, are you anywhere
near than my geography is here? So forgive me, but
is it? Are you anywhere near Buffalo?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Other side of the state?
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Okay, got it, got it, gotta get where I'm like
a couple hours north of New York City. I see,
So where I'm at, a couple of the local shows,
a couple of the promoters will be able to get
some bands from New York and Philly to come up.
It's not too far of a drive. Oh cool, And
then Albany will get folks from I mean the Albany.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Gets folks from all over. But but yeah, it's a
nice mix. It's nice. It's a cool spot. But Buffalo
has an amazing music scene as well. Buffalo is amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, and I see that you have a show coming
up on August fifteenth out there right.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yes, Yes, that's Hot Mama's Canteen.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I believe Hot Mama's Canteen. Yeah, that's cool, all right, awesome.
So so the Snorts hail from New York in a
couple different spots. And how long have you guys been
a band?
Speaker 8 (09:50):
Now, we've been a band since twenty I'm on a
twenty twenty one. I want to say it started at
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Sorry, I guess. We started writing the first record late
to the.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Party in twenty twenty one, and that was me and
my little brother were my little brother Ryan, who's also
and still is our producer. He's no longer the drummer,
but he's he's our producer still, and we just wanted
to write like an early two thousands punk pop punk,
not quite like all the way pop punk, but early
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two thousands type of type of record. And we had
fun doing it and we put it out and then
folks started asking if we could play a show here
and there, and we were like, oh, we're only two people.
This is definitely a four piece band, so yeah, we'll
play a show.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Sure.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Started like texting everybody our other little brother like can
you fill in on bass? We have a show come
up and we are not a band right now. So
and we had a blast and it was great. The
only the only, the only bummer was my my little brother.
Ryan was about two hours away from from Albany, Okay.
So he you know, to his credit and love him
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to death, he was.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
He was.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
He came out to a lot of the shows for like,
I want to say, two and a half years before
he was like I can't.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Do this anymore, right, Yeah, but he was.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
He's he's an amazing producer, he's an amazing engineer, an
amazing drummer. So we we you know the rest of
the guys were like totally get it. And now Nick
Nick Palazeke is now our drummer who's also an amazing drummer.
He's got all the chops of you know, playing in
a wedding band, playing in a punk band, playing in
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a funk band.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
So he's got like, you know, a really cool approach
to our tunes.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
So but yeah, since twenty twenty one is when we
started writing that first record, and then ever since then
really been trying to trying to put music out pretty regularly.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Got It and Billy and Ian have been consistent in
their spots ly guitar and bass.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
Yeah, Ian was the first person to that I I
outside of like someone that I knew, I just put
like an ad out on Craigslist and Ian responded. So
the running joke is he probably maybe could be possibly
still a serial killer.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
So we'll see.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
It's been a few years and nothing's happened, but we're always,
you know, kind of looking over our shoulder.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Ian's awesome.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
He's in a he's in an amazing band called Always Grounded,
the based out of Connecticut, and definitely look them up.
And he's he's just like a ball of energy. Ian
so Ian joined and he was he's he's completely in
love with music, and we quickly realized that we definitely
need a lead guitar player. And I saw Billy's band play.
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He was playing in a cover band. He has like
a cover band and he has an original band. I
happened to see his cover band on a whim. I
just went out somewhere and they were playing, and I
was like, that's a really good guitar player and kind
of logged that in my back of my mind, and
so I sent him a message on Instagram and was like, Hey,
we need a lead guitar. Do you want to come
play some music with the Snorts? And he was like yeah, sure,
(13:04):
and we threw him into the fire and I was like, cool,
we have a show in two weeks.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You any songs?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Awesome?
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Yeah, and then he ever since then, you know, we
we refer to him as as the sauce because when
Billy comes in and puts that that, you know, Billy
sauce all over the song, where like it's just.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
The glue that holds it together.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
And uh, younen our record Pitter Patter, Yeah, this was
the first record that it wasn't just me and my
my little brother Ryan playing on it. So late to
the party a single on the day of the Nazi died.
Dork Factor that's just me and and Ryan playing all
the instruments and doing our thing. Uh.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Pitter Patter is the first.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Time that we were able to have Billy and Ian
on the record and they were able to, you know,
put their spin on the song, like I would lay
the foundation down and then they were able to come
in and do their thing. And so that's that's something
that we're super proud of of that ep.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Got it. No, that's that's really good to know and
very helpful. So I didn't know that it was just
the two of you on all those releases prior to
Pitter Patter. Yeah, for some reason, I didn't connect that.
So that's great. And Pitter Patter, Yeah, I remember just
when I was going through that last tie, we were like, yeah,
pick a song you want to you know, talk about,
and I was still just like, god, man, this whole
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thing is just this massive, compelling, awesome record. So again,
everybody on band camp, go get it. And I also
saw that you got some newer stuff that I'd love
to talk about later in the episode. But so so,
when did the song Butterflies come together in the writing
process for the record. I know, you know, just from
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my experience, like songs that I wrote are not in
the order that they appear in the record necessarily obviously,
and they just come when they do. But how was
this one of the first songs or the later songs
that you y'all wrote for this, or how did that
come together?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So we only write sequentially, so oh, okay, no, I'm
just kidding I much like me. First it's the it's
the first song. And if it's not the you know no,
uh no no. It probably came about midway through writing.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
There was there was a bunch of demos that fly around,
and I was throwing some some demos out to the
guys and and uh out to our Ryan, our producer,
and Butterflies came in. And it originally didn't have that
what I referred to as like the poka beat or
the two step that like really punk boop about boo
about that type of like drum beat. Had more of
(15:32):
a straightforward rock beat, and that was cool, but it
definitely had a different vibe to it. And and Ryan
had suggested, like, hey, listen, let's let's you know, do
you know all gas no breaks type of situation and
let's just make this thing fly. And at first I
I was like, hmm, I don't know if I like
that eat to it, but now I can't imagine it
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not being in there. So so yeah, it came together
about midway through writing writing pitter patter and uh, like
I said, after the after the tune played earlier in
the in the in the episode here, it was just like,
came up with the riff that first, like dude that
that that type of riff, and then just kind of
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went with it and kind of let, you know, whatever
improvisation came out of it, did some trimming of the
fat type of situation, you know, kind of kind of blocked.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
It out in a way.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
But but really, like I said, it was like, yeah,
sometimes you're like, I don't know where that all came from,
and I like it, and I'm glad I hit record
on my phone when I was recording the demo, you know,
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
No, that's that's that's cool, got it. So, So, one
thing I wanted to ask about lyrically, and I always
find this an interesting subject because everybody comes at it differently.
The so I think of one artist that I used
to like a lot, and I still love his talent
(16:58):
and ability and disrespect his his songwriting is seal from
like his first couple of records, way way way back when,
and I always loved that. I never understood what the
hell he was saying. And I remember in an interview
he was saying, that's kind of the point as well,
that I don't want necessarily you to know, because I
want you to form your own conclusions and how it
feels to you and what you think it means and
how it you know and all that. I'm like, I
(17:19):
totally appreciate and love that approach. But at the same time,
I love that you shared the lyrics with me for this.
Is there a specific I mean, is there is there
anything specific you want to talk to about this? Or
is it just is it you still just leave that
up to the interpretation, because I mean clear to me,
there's okay. I mean, yeah, I can conceptually think of
some things that you might be talking about here, But
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the specificity is is is not there? Which I think
might be completely intentional. I just wanted to ask about it.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Sure, I mean, I'm happy to I'm happy to dive
into the lyrics. If you want to ask specific questions
about it, that's that's totally fine. But I do I
do agree with mister Seal and you're talking about the
kids from a Road Seal, right, the.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Guy I am talking about that guy, but primarily the
record before that, the head Crazy on It and Future
Love Paradise in those songs.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Got it okay, okay, because yeah, there's definitely definitely Kiss
from a Rose has those moments where it's like, you know,
and you're like, all right, I'm not quite sure what
you're saying over there, but I definitely subscribe to the
the philosophy of universally specific, and I realized that's an oxymoron, right,
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where it's like, how how how can you get really
specific to paint a picture and at the same time
be vague enough to make it applicable to as many
people as as possible. And it's not like it's like
and it's not like I'm like, oh man, everybody needs
to latch onto whatever I'm writing here. But it's also
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like you, I think, if you get to, like, for example,
Mountain Goats, the band Mountain Goats hyper specific on their laers,
and the Mountain Goats are great, but there's a certain
there's a certain turn when you when you get that
specific because it's so tightly and beautifully written that it's
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like you're reading a novel set to music and and
uh and so you're kind of put in that world
that that is is being painted and that's cool. There's
you know, there's definitely a ton of value in in
that type of songwriting. I just I can't write lyrics
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that way. What I what I and I I like
writing lyrics that are you know, left open for interpretation
and left open for you know, like what does it
mean to you?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I know what it means to me.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
But I'm but there's certain things that that are specifically
written to just be like you could take this a
couple of ways. And I and I like that when
I really like that in songs that I listen to.
So that's what I tried to do with these lyrics.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Got it it, No, totally get it?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
And yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I used to stick back on some of the records
from my past where I would approach it exactly the
same way, even though I would write songs specifically about
a person or an event that I just have to
work out like for whatever reason, so I'm doing it
through the song, but I still will make it vague
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enough where it's like you're not going to know who
I'm writing about, even if you know me kind of thing.
But still it kind of has cast that wider net
without like you're saying, trying to be all things to
all people. It still has a kind of specificity to it,
but universally, as you say, which I liked, how you
said that, that's awesome, I have to ask. So it's
(20:49):
rare to come across bands that will do a Chumble
one but cover. And obviously I know Tumble Onoem has
been around since forever ago, and I saw them back
in nineteen ninety on the tour when they played or
ninety two is when they played Minneapolis, and and I've
kind of been a fan of them for a while,
but they've sort of fell out ever since the kind
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of the hit they had, that sort of I haven't
heard really anything much since, even though I know they've
put out of the records. I was just curious, how,
how did how did it? What was going on with
on the day the Nazi died? And why was that
the single.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
First of all trumble wumbad kicks ass there's if if
anybody has not listened to the night it was it
nineteen ninety three or four of the record Anarchy.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
That record top to bottom is a masterpiece, full stop
and hearing. I think on the day the Nazi died.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
The studio version they have a live version where they
do at a cappella and they have a studio version
that that is more in line with what we covered.
I mean that we covered that and twenty twenty three
and I had like an acoustic version of it that
was more in the style of AJJ that band where
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it was really kind.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Of like folk punk.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
But I always knew I wanted to do a cover
of it, and while we were recording Dork Factor, I
was just like, hey, let's let's record this as well.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And if we use it, we use it. If we don't,
we don't, okay.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
And it was around that time where I mean, look
what we say live when we introduce the song is
is we're gonna do this?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Is?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
The next song is by Chumbawe, But and we go
and then we say it's not that song. But what
we do say is they introduced this as basically saying
it's a bummer that they still have to play this
song and they need to play it until it's not
relevant anymore. And we gladly would take that torch up
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and play the song, even though it's like, you know,
it comes in the middle of our set and it's like,
we don't mean to be a bummer, but listen, you
know they're here and there, there, and they're everywhere. Especially now, Yeah,
in twenty twenty three. There was a way before that,
and unfortunately you know, long before that too, But it's
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such a it's such a poignant, visceral song when you
could dive into the lyrics of it, and we really
wanted to put a our our spin on it, and
you know, it's just a it's unfortunately very relevant, and
that's why.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
We play it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Got it no great and thank you for playing it,
and thank you for sharing all of that. And again
for anyone who's interested in that, that is also on
band camp, so you can go there to find that too,
as well as all of their other releases. So please
go to band camp on band camp Fridays and buy
all of the Snort stuff so they get all the
money the uh so. So the record came out in
(24:01):
October twenty twenty four, right October last year is when
Pitter Patter came out, and what are you I know
that you have. You've released another single since then, I
think in March, the Walking Into Walls. But that song,
I think that song is also a little bit older
because I saw it from some live video that you did,
(24:24):
I think somewhere mid twenty twenty four. So has that
song been permeating while or is that on a different
record or is where where did that come into play?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Walking into Walls is off of a dork factor.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Oh okay, before Pitter Patter, we had an acoustic version
kicking around and we were, you know, we were like, hey,
it's always in the back of my mind. I think
it's always cool when bands are like, hey, here's a
kind of a different flavor of that song that maybe
a few years old, and we wanted to put that
out and that's why we did the acoustic version of
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Walking into Walls and thought it was only appropriate to
the electric version on the on the single as well.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
But that's off off a dork factor.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, okay, got it, got it cool? Cool? So is
there anything more specifically about the song Butterflies or the
record Pitter Patter overall that you want to touch on
that we haven't talked about yet.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I just Uh, yeah, Butterflies is uh. Butterflies was described
to me.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
This way from a friend of mine recently, where he's like,
that song is a very much a you're riding the
lightning type of song, and I agree wholeheartedly because it's
for us. It's one of the harder songs for us
to play live, but it's a it's really fun to play,
and I really like the the journey that that the
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that we can take the audience on because it starts
so aggressively and it has that kind of big chorus
that goes into another another spot there, and it's it's
always fun to see what the crowd does with that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
They'll either.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
Most recent we had a couple of shows where started
a circle put and then the song stops and we
do like a thing and you see you see the
circle pit startups and then then stop and then start
up again and give as the stop, you know. So
it's it's always fun to see what folks are doing
to it, and it's it's definitely a trying to hang
on for dear life while we're playing that song. So
but it's one of my favorite songs that that we've
ever done, and I hope that folks listen to it
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and dig it, and if you don't, that's totally cool.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
You don't have to like everything. It's totally fun.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
No, I hear it? Cool man, Thanks Erin. Well let's
do this. Let's take a quick break and we're gonna
come back and talk to you more about kind of
what's coming up next for you the Snorts and and
what y'all are working on going forward. Cool sounds good, awesome.
All right, everybody hang out, we'll be right back. All right,
we are back with Aaron from The Snorts and we
were talking about the song Butterflies earlier again. If you
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want to check that out, please go to bandcamp dot
com sorry the Snorts dot bandcamp dot com to see
all of their releases there. Aaron, I wanted to ask
you then, so what I saw? You know, we talked
about the recent single you got, but that's off an
old record and it's an acoustic version, which is cool.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
But is there.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Between the shows you've played in that you have coming
up and any new recordings, kind of what's coming up
next for you as a band and and what are
you all working.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
On working on? We want to do a full length record.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
We've had a couple of EPs, five or six song EPs,
a couple of singles come out, and we really wanted
to like buckle down and write a full length, you know,
at least ten songs and try to press it on
vinyl and go from there.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So we do have.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Actually, there is our show.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
A couple of weeks ago in June, we played with
hell Beach Meghan from work and a band called Mia
Miao out of Poughkeepsie, and that was recorded live by
the record label DCPC.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah cool, Yeah, and so.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Scott from d c PC recorded that that show and
that will be put out on vinyl. I don't know when,
but that that is in the works as well. So yeah,
that that's that We're we're really excited about that as well.
We felt we we felt we we played well and
excited to hear what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, that's great. Scott is super cool. I just had
him on a couple episodes back and it was really
fun talking with him about five or four plan and
just what he's working on. But that's badass that he
got that recorded and I look forward to seeing that
too or hearing that when that comes out. When what
do you what are you all doing in terms of
kind of regional or or more extensive traveling and touring
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and shows and things like, are you ever coming down
to southeast into the Atlanta area or Florida.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
So we played we played fest a couple of years
ago or fast twenty two whatever whatever that was last year,
and no, we weren't. We weren't able to apply for
for festivals this year for for a number of reasons,
personal personal reasons.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Got it and.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
So the goal would be to apply to fest again.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
There is Camp punk Sylvania that is, uh that we'd
love to play, and that's they're taking submissions in opening
up submissions for the next year's show in the Poconos.
If you've never been to Camp Punksylvania, man, that is
that is a blast. It is in the middle of
the mountains in Pennsylvania and it's a full on I
think next year will be their sixth year, and we're
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we'll be applying to more festivals for twenty twenty six.
Right now, it's like we're in writing mode and trying
to which means like we'll play we'll play some some
shows within a two to three hour radius or you know,
or maybe maybe four hour radius depending on on on
how it goes. And but really we want to try
to like buckle down and and get a record out.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, that makes a ton of sense. And yeah, look
forward to seeing you whenever I get a chance in
a hopefully can come up to either your way or
in a couple of years I'll see you come down
more southeast and hope to catch you. So what what's
the timeline on that, uh DCPC live record coming out?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
It's a great question for for one mister Scott over at. Okay, Yeah,
I'm not sure, but I know that I know that
Scott will uh you know, he'll he'll deliver when when
he's ready. He's got he's got a bunch of really
awesome records that that just came out. The laus Kitziers
just put a record.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Out with with d c PC. Definitely check them out.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
And he's got a few other ones that I don't
know if I'm able to h to announce, but but
Scott's always cranking him out for sure, So definitely keep it.
Definitely go subscribe to d c PC on Instagram, Go
check out the website. He's got a really amazing community
that he's that he's putting together in in the Hudson
Valley of New York.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's awesome. That's awesome, and thanks for the plug. When then,
are you targeting potentially your new record coming out? Is
that something you're Is there any scramble to get that
done before the end of this year or are you
just letting it evolve as it does and probably hopefully
sometime in twenty six.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Probably twenty six. Yeah, there's no scramble for the end
of the year. We've got We've got a.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Bunch of you know, a bunch of songs in the works.
Is that cliche right where you're just like, you know,
you've got got a bunch of them and it works.
The record's going great, you know, but like.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
So so so, Yeah, but nothing yet. What I do
know is we want to you know, Pitter Patter was.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
A little bit of a departure from what we did
with with dork Factor and Late to the Party. Every
record has something that we're trying differently. Late the Party
was very much early two thousand's, you know, type of
you know, pop punk iss asque type of thing. Dork
Factor had some some more aggressive elements to it, with
some more emo elements to it that we were exploring.
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Peter Patter leaned really heavy into an aggressive side on
most of the songs, so we know that the next
one is, Okay, what's the next evolution that we want
to do with this? How do we get And the
word that keeps coming up is like, how do we
get really fucking weird with it? And keep our keep
our you know, still snorts sound that yeah, we've cultivated
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and so trying to push the buttons more and more
and figure out you know, where the where the uh
you know where all that stuff lies.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
So I love it. I love it. It's always great
to hear artists pushing their own envelopes and expanding and
exploring all that. That's great. Yeah, cool man. I definitely
keep my eye for that too. Can't wait to hear
the new record when it's done, or when you get
any singles released. Even so, where is then for all
the listeners that are now chopping at the bit to
(32:49):
get everything the snorts? Where's the best place to find y'all?
Is it just Instagram is kind of the primary place?
Or band camp or where should people look.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
For you first? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Definitely check us out on Instagram it's the The handle
is uh the snorts dot band.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
B A n D. So say what's up, say say hello,
give us a follow or or check it out.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
And we also you can also check us out at
www dot thesnorts dot com that has all the links
to our streaming platforms UH and and band camp. Band
Camp has all of our merch up there as well.
I say all, but we have two shirts and UH,
so you can go check out the two shirts that
we have for.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Sale and and and do that at bandcamp for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Awesome, awesome, and I'll make sure to include all of
that into end of the posts and when I published
this in the next couple of weeks, so that is
great eron It's it's awesome talking again, and I hope
we get to do this again when your next record
comes out. I love the band and I can't wait
to see it live and experience it live sometime. But
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thanks again for for making the time again to to
I'm over and chat with me about all of it.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
You are very welcome, Brett, Thank you very much and
happy to chat anytime, and we can do it two
or three times in a row, doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
You let me know and we'll go from there, but
thank you for all the support, and it's been it's
been a blast man. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Awesome thanks.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Three Crows says beside break Down, spit.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Youse happen, There's something else?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Start these stakes?
Speaker 7 (34:44):
You got back in is you can?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Jackson had now.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Soon listening the seas been honesty can a week could
be something.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
All right? And that wraps up another episode of the
B Side Breakdown. I want to thank Aaron Stokert from
the band The Snorts for coming on to talk about
their song Butterflies. In the background, you're hearing the song
Missing You for Days by the band Johnny Rook. If
you like what you hear, please go back and listen
to the previous episode because that's what it was all about.
I just want to thank Adam Coolong and Carry Bosel
for helping me put together the jingle you hear at
(35:37):
the beginning and the end of this episode. Up next,
I got a song called All I Need by the
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Speaker 5 (36:09):
I don't know what you just know I swear it.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
I'll be kids.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Your best story is a plotform?
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Can you just slip right in?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Will you carry in this waveless
Free tros B Side Breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey everyone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown. My name
is Brett Johnson and I'm your host. This is episode
forty of a podcast where I talk with other artists,
musicians and songwriters about a song they've written that is
meaningful to them that they want to chat about with
me and get deep into the y behind it. But
first they need to give me permission to play the
song in its entirety on this episode, so you the
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listener can hear it and have some idea what we're
talking about today. I'm excited to be talking with Aaron
Stoker from the band The Snorts about their song Butterflies.
They are a great band. Their record Petter Patter is
fucking awesome and I really hope you go and buy
it on band camp Friday. But first, here is the
song Butterflies.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Got a face.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Nobody look directing him, get to say the lepp come
the day, go get the face for the money. No,
I mean the recognition nights Old the live. Maybe one
day you would go that free mater. One day we
would say that.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Don't you know it flies over you?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Nobutbuck don't yet, Brod, don't go don't go about, don't don't.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Talk by round the road.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Yet your round no lot does not God yeah, your right.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Around to work right, all right?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And that was Butterflies by the Snorts. We're gonna take
a quick break and come back and talk with Aaron
stokerd about the song, the band and everything that they're
working on. So please stay with us and we'll be
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B Side Breakdown. All right, we'll be back in just
a minute. All right, and we are back. Let's bring
in Aaron Stoker from the Snorts to talk about the
song Butterflies erin. Thank you so much for taking some
time today to talk with me about the song.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
Here are more than welcome, Happy to happy to join,
good to see you or hear from you, Brett, And
I hope everything's cool over there.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Happy to be here?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, No, that's great man. So, yeah, this song is
just ferocious and and I love the lyrics. I have
a sense of where I think they're going. But I
would love to hear from you. Why is it that
this is the song you wanted to talk about today.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
It's a great question.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Uh, this song in particular right now, it's a it's
one of those songs that this is gonna sound super
frigging corny. So and so hopefully hopefully everybody who's listening
is all right with it. But it's one of those
tunes that if you if you write music at any level,
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sometimes you write a song and you go, I don't
know how I did that, And when you're listening back
to it, you know, it's one of those things where
it just kind of it sounds cliche, but it just
comes out out of you as far as like musically
and lyrically, and it just kind of, you know, it's
a little bit of like lightning in a bottle, at
least from from my perspective. So, and I've gotten a
(05:10):
lot of folks after our our our shows or or
you know, I've had some someone recently, as recently as
a couple of weeks ago come up to us and
say this was their favorite song. And so you go
back and and there's a little self indulgence, but go
back and listen to it, and you're like, yeah, I don't,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I don't remember how I did that.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
It wasn't like it's like it's not a math problem
at least, that's not how I write write songs.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
So it's yeah, So there's there's definitely a a kind
of a you know, kind of a.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
Unique character at the party vibe to it where you're
just like that person get invited. That's interesting, you know.
So yeah, that's that's kind of why I want to
chat about it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I guess. No, that's cool, and I'm glad you brought
it up the way you did, and and frankly, I
just completely am supportive of that. And I don't think
it's corny sounding at all, because I get it. I mean,
and I know what that feels like when for me,
a lot of the songs I've written over the years,
like a lot of them sort of show up and
I'm like, I don't. Yeah, just like you said, like
where did that? How did that happen? You know? And
(06:12):
then when I look back on it, I'm just super
grateful that it's there and that people seem to dig
it or it says what it says, or it means
what it means, and it has all the connotations to
it that I don't necessarily assign to it as I'm
writing it, but I think it's those are some of
the most beautiful things that come out. And yeah, I
mean I think it's that's just a slamming, slamming song.
(06:34):
So it's super fun to hear. So tell me about
when did this song? So actually, let me back up,
so for all of you that don't know the snorts,
I'm just gonna share a little history here. So Aaron
and I talked I think about six months ago, and
we talked about a song called Weird but Okay that's
(06:55):
on their record Pitter Pattern that is just amazing and
you should get it's on in Camp and uh we
chatted about it. For some reason, the technical snaff who
I lost our entire conversation, And so Aaron's been gracious
to come back again to talk about a different song.
This time we're talking about butterflies.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
But I have all this history for everybody who's then
sorry to cut you offer, but that's everybody who's listening,
because it was a party.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
We had a party six months ago, you and I
and you know. But that's just something you and I
are going to have to share.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And that's true.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
That's and that's why I was jumped at the chance
to come back and chat with you, because we had
a great time.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
And we'll just we'll just say that was our own
little that was our own little uh soire that that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We had there there you go, So we had our
own little party. None y'all were invited, and that's just
how it was. But now here we are six months later,
that's cool. And so I have all this history on
you guys because I've been paying attention, you know, for
six months and and more, and so I just want
to kind of give some background for everybody else. So
y'all are from Albany, New York, right.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Yeah, So three of the band members are from from Albany,
New York. I actually live about fifty minutes south of
the rest of the band. But when seventy five percent
of the band is from from one one area, you
kind of build from that area really, so sure, Yeah,
I'm I'm just south of those guys. Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
The positive is Albany has an amazing music scene.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
The spot where I'm at has an amazing music scene,
and so we kind of have this really cool thing back.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
And forth where uh uh the area that I'm in,
we're I'm able to.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
I go to shows basically, you know, two times a
week if if more, if not more, just go to
as an observer, go to you know, to participate in
the in the community. And uh, the community up up
in Albany is amazing too. So but yeah, so it's
it makes sense to me for us to build from
from Albany too.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No, got it. No, that's that's great. And you know,
good on you for getting out and supporting as much
music as you do. The Uh so, are you anywhere
near than my geography is here? So forgive me, but
is it? Are you anywhere near Buffalo?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Other side of the state?
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Okay, got it, got it, gotta get where I'm like
a couple hours north of New York City. I see,
So where I'm at, a couple of the local shows,
a couple of the promoters will be able to get
some bands from New York and Philly to come up.
It's not too far of a drive. Oh cool, And
then Albany will get folks from I mean the Albany.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Gets folks from all over. But but yeah, it's a
nice mix. It's nice. It's a cool spot. But Buffalo
has an amazing music scene as well. Buffalo is amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, and I see that you have a show coming
up on August fifteenth out there right.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yes, Yes, that's Hot Mama's Canteen.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I believe Hot Mama's Canteen. Yeah, that's cool, all right, awesome.
So so the Snorts hail from New York in a
couple different spots. And how long have you guys been
a band?
Speaker 8 (09:50):
Now, we've been a band since twenty I'm on a
twenty twenty one. I want to say it started at
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Sorry, I guess. We started writing the first record late
to the.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Party in twenty twenty one, and that was me and
my little brother were my little brother Ryan, who's also
and still is our producer. He's no longer the drummer,
but he's he's our producer still, and we just wanted
to write like an early two thousands punk pop punk,
not quite like all the way pop punk, but early
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two thousands type of type of record. And we had
fun doing it and we put it out and then
folks started asking if we could play a show here
and there, and we were like, oh, we're only two people.
This is definitely a four piece band, so yeah, we'll
play a show.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Sure.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Started like texting everybody our other little brother like can
you fill in on bass? We have a show come
up and we are not a band right now. So
and we had a blast and it was great. The
only the only, the only bummer was my my little brother.
Ryan was about two hours away from from Albany, Okay.
So he you know, to his credit and love him
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to death, he was.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
He was.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
He came out to a lot of the shows for like,
I want to say, two and a half years before
he was like I can't.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Do this anymore, right, Yeah, but he was.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
He's he's an amazing producer, he's an amazing engineer, an
amazing drummer. So we we you know the rest of
the guys were like totally get it. And now Nick
Nick Palazeke is now our drummer who's also an amazing drummer.
He's got all the chops of you know, playing in
a wedding band, playing in a punk band, playing in
(11:35):
a funk band.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
So he's got like, you know, a really cool approach
to our tunes.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
So but yeah, since twenty twenty one is when we
started writing that first record, and then ever since then
really been trying to trying to put music out pretty regularly.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Got It and Billy and Ian have been consistent in
their spots ly guitar and bass.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
Yeah, Ian was the first person to that I I
outside of like someone that I knew, I just put
like an ad out on Craigslist and Ian responded. So
the running joke is he probably maybe could be possibly
still a serial killer.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
So we'll see.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
It's been a few years and nothing's happened, but we're always,
you know, kind of looking over our shoulder.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Ian's awesome.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
He's in a he's in an amazing band called Always Grounded,
the based out of Connecticut, and definitely look them up.
And he's he's just like a ball of energy. Ian
so Ian joined and he was he's he's completely in
love with music, and we quickly realized that we definitely
need a lead guitar player. And I saw Billy's band play.
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He was playing in a cover band. He has like
a cover band and he has an original band. I
happened to see his cover band on a whim. I
just went out somewhere and they were playing, and I
was like, that's a really good guitar player and kind
of logged that in my back of my mind, and
so I sent him a message on Instagram and was like, Hey,
we need a lead guitar. Do you want to come
play some music with the Snorts? And he was like yeah, sure,
(13:04):
and we threw him into the fire and I was like, cool,
we have a show in two weeks.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You any songs?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Awesome?
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Yeah, and then he ever since then, you know, we
we refer to him as as the sauce because when
Billy comes in and puts that that, you know, Billy
sauce all over the song, where like it's just.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
The glue that holds it together.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
And uh, younen our record Pitter Patter, Yeah, this was
the first record that it wasn't just me and my
my little brother Ryan playing on it. So late to
the party a single on the day of the Nazi died.
Dork Factor that's just me and and Ryan playing all
the instruments and doing our thing. Uh.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Pitter Patter is the first.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Time that we were able to have Billy and Ian
on the record and they were able to, you know,
put their spin on the song, like I would lay
the foundation down and then they were able to come
in and do their thing. And so that's that's something
that we're super proud of of that ep.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Got it. No, that's that's really good to know and
very helpful. So I didn't know that it was just
the two of you on all those releases prior to
Pitter Patter. Yeah, for some reason, I didn't connect that.
So that's great. And Pitter Patter, Yeah, I remember just
when I was going through that last tie, we were like, yeah,
pick a song you want to you know, talk about,
and I was still just like, god, man, this whole
(14:19):
thing is just this massive, compelling, awesome record. So again,
everybody on band camp, go get it. And I also
saw that you got some newer stuff that I'd love
to talk about later in the episode. But so so,
when did the song Butterflies come together in the writing
process for the record. I know, you know, just from
(14:42):
my experience, like songs that I wrote are not in
the order that they appear in the record necessarily obviously,
and they just come when they do. But how was
this one of the first songs or the later songs
that you y'all wrote for this, or how did that
come together?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So we only write sequentially, so oh, okay, no, I'm
just kidding I much like me. First it's the it's
the first song. And if it's not the you know no,
uh no no. It probably came about midway through writing.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
There was there was a bunch of demos that fly around,
and I was throwing some some demos out to the
guys and and uh out to our Ryan, our producer,
and Butterflies came in. And it originally didn't have that
what I referred to as like the poka beat or
the two step that like really punk boop about boo
about that type of like drum beat. Had more of
(15:32):
a straightforward rock beat, and that was cool, but it
definitely had a different vibe to it. And and Ryan
had suggested, like, hey, listen, let's let's you know, do
you know all gas no breaks type of situation and
let's just make this thing fly. And at first I
I was like, hmm, I don't know if I like
that eat to it, but now I can't imagine it
(15:54):
not being in there. So so yeah, it came together
about midway through writing writing pitter patter and uh, like
I said, after the after the tune played earlier in
the in the in the episode here, it was just like,
came up with the riff that first, like dude that
that that type of riff, and then just kind of
(16:15):
went with it and kind of let, you know, whatever
improvisation came out of it, did some trimming of the
fat type of situation, you know, kind of kind of blocked.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
It out in a way.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
But but really, like I said, it was like, yeah,
sometimes you're like, I don't know where that all came from,
and I like it, and I'm glad I hit record
on my phone when I was recording the demo, you know,
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
No, that's that's that's cool, got it. So, So, one
thing I wanted to ask about lyrically, and I always
find this an interesting subject because everybody comes at it differently.
The so I think of one artist that I used
to like a lot, and I still love his talent
(16:58):
and ability and disrespect his his songwriting is seal from
like his first couple of records, way way way back when,
and I always loved that. I never understood what the
hell he was saying. And I remember in an interview
he was saying, that's kind of the point as well,
that I don't want necessarily you to know, because I
want you to form your own conclusions and how it
feels to you and what you think it means and
how it you know and all that. I'm like, I
(17:19):
totally appreciate and love that approach. But at the same time,
I love that you shared the lyrics with me for this.
Is there a specific I mean, is there is there
anything specific you want to talk to about this? Or
is it just is it you still just leave that
up to the interpretation, because I mean clear to me,
there's okay. I mean, yeah, I can conceptually think of
some things that you might be talking about here, But
(17:41):
the specificity is is is not there? Which I think
might be completely intentional. I just wanted to ask about it.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Sure, I mean, I'm happy to I'm happy to dive
into the lyrics. If you want to ask specific questions
about it, that's that's totally fine. But I do I
do agree with mister Seal and you're talking about the
kids from a Road Seal, right, the.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Guy I am talking about that guy, but primarily the
record before that, the head Crazy on It and Future
Love Paradise in those songs.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Got it okay, okay, because yeah, there's definitely definitely Kiss
from a Rose has those moments where it's like, you know,
and you're like, all right, I'm not quite sure what
you're saying over there, but I definitely subscribe to the
the philosophy of universally specific, and I realized that's an oxymoron, right,
(18:31):
where it's like, how how how can you get really
specific to paint a picture and at the same time
be vague enough to make it applicable to as many
people as as possible. And it's not like it's like
and it's not like I'm like, oh man, everybody needs
to latch onto whatever I'm writing here. But it's also
(18:52):
like you, I think, if you get to, like, for example,
Mountain Goats, the band Mountain Goats hyper specific on their laers,
and the Mountain Goats are great, but there's a certain
there's a certain turn when you when you get that
specific because it's so tightly and beautifully written that it's
(19:12):
like you're reading a novel set to music and and
uh and so you're kind of put in that world
that that is is being painted and that's cool. There's
you know, there's definitely a ton of value in in
that type of songwriting. I just I can't write lyrics
(19:33):
that way. What I what I and I I like
writing lyrics that are you know, left open for interpretation
and left open for you know, like what does it
mean to you?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I know what it means to me.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
But I'm but there's certain things that that are specifically
written to just be like you could take this a
couple of ways. And I and I like that when
I really like that in songs that I listen to.
So that's what I tried to do with these lyrics.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Got it it, No, totally get it?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
And yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I used to stick back on some of the records
from my past where I would approach it exactly the
same way, even though I would write songs specifically about
a person or an event that I just have to
work out like for whatever reason, so I'm doing it
through the song, but I still will make it vague
(20:25):
enough where it's like you're not going to know who
I'm writing about, even if you know me kind of thing.
But still it kind of has cast that wider net
without like you're saying, trying to be all things to
all people. It still has a kind of specificity to it,
but universally, as you say, which I liked, how you
said that, that's awesome, I have to ask. So it's
(20:49):
rare to come across bands that will do a Chumble
one but cover. And obviously I know Tumble Onoem has
been around since forever ago, and I saw them back
in nineteen ninety on the tour when they played or
ninety two is when they played Minneapolis, and and I've
kind of been a fan of them for a while,
but they've sort of fell out ever since the kind
(21:11):
of the hit they had, that sort of I haven't
heard really anything much since, even though I know they've
put out of the records. I was just curious, how,
how did how did it? What was going on with
on the day the Nazi died? And why was that
the single.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
First of all trumble wumbad kicks ass there's if if
anybody has not listened to the night it was it
nineteen ninety three or four of the record Anarchy.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
That record top to bottom is a masterpiece, full stop
and hearing. I think on the day the Nazi died.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
The studio version they have a live version where they
do at a cappella and they have a studio version
that that is more in line with what we covered.
I mean that we covered that and twenty twenty three
and I had like an acoustic version of it that
was more in the style of AJJ that band where
(22:08):
it was really kind.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Of like folk punk.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
But I always knew I wanted to do a cover
of it, and while we were recording Dork Factor, I
was just like, hey, let's let's record this as well.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And if we use it, we use it. If we don't,
we don't, okay.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
And it was around that time where I mean, look
what we say live when we introduce the song is
is we're gonna do this?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Is?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
The next song is by Chumbawe, But and we go
and then we say it's not that song. But what
we do say is they introduced this as basically saying
it's a bummer that they still have to play this
song and they need to play it until it's not
relevant anymore. And we gladly would take that torch up
(22:53):
and play the song, even though it's like, you know,
it comes in the middle of our set and it's like,
we don't mean to be a bummer, but listen, you
know they're here and there, there, and they're everywhere. Especially now, Yeah,
in twenty twenty three. There was a way before that,
and unfortunately you know, long before that too, But it's
(23:13):
such a it's such a poignant, visceral song when you
could dive into the lyrics of it, and we really
wanted to put a our our spin on it, and
you know, it's just a it's unfortunately very relevant, and
that's why.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
We play it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Got it no great and thank you for playing it,
and thank you for sharing all of that. And again
for anyone who's interested in that, that is also on
band camp, so you can go there to find that too,
as well as all of their other releases. So please
go to band camp on band camp Fridays and buy
all of the Snort stuff so they get all the
money the uh so. So the record came out in
(24:01):
October twenty twenty four, right October last year is when
Pitter Patter came out, and what are you I know
that you have. You've released another single since then, I
think in March, the Walking Into Walls. But that song,
I think that song is also a little bit older
because I saw it from some live video that you did,
(24:24):
I think somewhere mid twenty twenty four. So has that
song been permeating while or is that on a different
record or is where where did that come into play?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Walking into Walls is off of a dork factor.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Oh okay, before Pitter Patter, we had an acoustic version
kicking around and we were, you know, we were like, hey,
it's always in the back of my mind. I think
it's always cool when bands are like, hey, here's a
kind of a different flavor of that song that maybe
a few years old, and we wanted to put that
out and that's why we did the acoustic version of
(24:57):
Walking into Walls and thought it was only appropriate to
the electric version on the on the single as well.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
But that's off off a dork factor.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, okay, got it, got it cool? Cool? So is
there anything more specifically about the song Butterflies or the
record Pitter Patter overall that you want to touch on
that we haven't talked about yet.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I just Uh, yeah, Butterflies is uh. Butterflies was described
to me.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
This way from a friend of mine recently, where he's like,
that song is a very much a you're riding the
lightning type of song, and I agree wholeheartedly because it's
for us. It's one of the harder songs for us
to play live, but it's a it's really fun to play,
and I really like the the journey that that the
(25:47):
that we can take the audience on because it starts
so aggressively and it has that kind of big chorus
that goes into another another spot there, and it's it's
always fun to see what the crowd does with that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
They'll either.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
Most recent we had a couple of shows where started
a circle put and then the song stops and we
do like a thing and you see you see the
circle pit startups and then then stop and then start
up again and give as the stop, you know. So
it's it's always fun to see what folks are doing
to it, and it's it's definitely a trying to hang
on for dear life while we're playing that song. So
but it's one of my favorite songs that that we've
ever done, and I hope that folks listen to it
(26:22):
and dig it, and if you don't, that's totally cool.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
You don't have to like everything. It's totally fun.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
No, I hear it? Cool man, Thanks Erin. Well let's
do this. Let's take a quick break and we're gonna
come back and talk to you more about kind of
what's coming up next for you the Snorts and and
what y'all are working on going forward. Cool sounds good, awesome.
All right, everybody hang out, we'll be right back. All right,
we are back with Aaron from The Snorts and we
were talking about the song Butterflies earlier again. If you
(26:50):
want to check that out, please go to bandcamp dot
com sorry the Snorts dot bandcamp dot com to see
all of their releases there. Aaron, I wanted to ask
you then, so what I saw? You know, we talked
about the recent single you got, but that's off an
old record and it's an acoustic version, which is cool.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
But is there.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Between the shows you've played in that you have coming
up and any new recordings, kind of what's coming up
next for you as a band and and what are
you all working.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
On working on? We want to do a full length record.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
We've had a couple of EPs, five or six song EPs,
a couple of singles come out, and we really wanted
to like buckle down and write a full length, you know,
at least ten songs and try to press it on
vinyl and go from there.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So we do have.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Actually, there is our show.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
A couple of weeks ago in June, we played with
hell Beach Meghan from work and a band called Mia
Miao out of Poughkeepsie, and that was recorded live by
the record label DCPC.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah cool, Yeah, and so.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Scott from d c PC recorded that that show and
that will be put out on vinyl. I don't know when,
but that that is in the works as well. So yeah,
that that's that We're we're really excited about that as well.
We felt we we felt we we played well and
excited to hear what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, that's great. Scott is super cool. I just had
him on a couple episodes back and it was really
fun talking with him about five or four plan and
just what he's working on. But that's badass that he
got that recorded and I look forward to seeing that
too or hearing that when that comes out. When what
do you what are you all doing in terms of
kind of regional or or more extensive traveling and touring
(28:39):
and shows and things like, are you ever coming down
to southeast into the Atlanta area or Florida.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
So we played we played fest a couple of years
ago or fast twenty two whatever whatever that was last year,
and no, we weren't. We weren't able to apply for
for festivals this year for for a number of reasons,
personal personal reasons.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Got it and.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
So the goal would be to apply to fest again.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
There is Camp punk Sylvania that is, uh that we'd
love to play, and that's they're taking submissions in opening
up submissions for the next year's show in the Poconos.
If you've never been to Camp Punksylvania, man, that is
that is a blast. It is in the middle of
the mountains in Pennsylvania and it's a full on I
think next year will be their sixth year, and we're
(29:32):
we'll be applying to more festivals for twenty twenty six.
Right now, it's like we're in writing mode and trying
to which means like we'll play we'll play some some
shows within a two to three hour radius or you know,
or maybe maybe four hour radius depending on on on
how it goes. And but really we want to try
to like buckle down and and get a record out.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, that makes a ton of sense. And yeah, look
forward to seeing you whenever I get a chance in
a hopefully can come up to either your way or
in a couple of years I'll see you come down
more southeast and hope to catch you. So what what's
the timeline on that, uh DCPC live record coming out?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
It's a great question for for one mister Scott over at. Okay, Yeah,
I'm not sure, but I know that I know that
Scott will uh you know, he'll he'll deliver when when
he's ready. He's got he's got a bunch of really
awesome records that that just came out. The laus Kitziers
just put a record.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Out with with d c PC. Definitely check them out.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
And he's got a few other ones that I don't
know if I'm able to h to announce, but but
Scott's always cranking him out for sure, So definitely keep it.
Definitely go subscribe to d c PC on Instagram, Go
check out the website. He's got a really amazing community
that he's that he's putting together in in the Hudson
Valley of New York.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's awesome. That's awesome, and thanks for the plug. When then,
are you targeting potentially your new record coming out? Is
that something you're Is there any scramble to get that
done before the end of this year or are you
just letting it evolve as it does and probably hopefully
sometime in twenty six.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Probably twenty six. Yeah, there's no scramble for the end
of the year. We've got We've got a.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Bunch of you know, a bunch of songs in the works.
Is that cliche right where you're just like, you know,
you've got got a bunch of them and it works.
The record's going great, you know, but like.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
So so so, Yeah, but nothing yet. What I do
know is we want to you know, Pitter Patter was.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
A little bit of a departure from what we did
with with dork Factor and Late to the Party. Every
record has something that we're trying differently. Late the Party
was very much early two thousand's, you know, type of
you know, pop punk iss asque type of thing. Dork
Factor had some some more aggressive elements to it, with
some more emo elements to it that we were exploring.
(31:58):
Peter Patter leaned really heavy into an aggressive side on
most of the songs, so we know that the next
one is, Okay, what's the next evolution that we want
to do with this? How do we get And the
word that keeps coming up is like, how do we
get really fucking weird with it? And keep our keep
our you know, still snorts sound that yeah, we've cultivated
(32:19):
and so trying to push the buttons more and more
and figure out you know, where the where the uh
you know where all that stuff lies.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
So I love it. I love it. It's always great
to hear artists pushing their own envelopes and expanding and
exploring all that. That's great. Yeah, cool man. I definitely
keep my eye for that too. Can't wait to hear
the new record when it's done, or when you get
any singles released. Even so, where is then for all
the listeners that are now chopping at the bit to
(32:49):
get everything the snorts? Where's the best place to find y'all?
Is it just Instagram is kind of the primary place?
Or band camp or where should people look.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
For you first? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Definitely check us out on Instagram it's the The handle
is uh the snorts dot band.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
B A n D. So say what's up, say say hello,
give us a follow or or check it out.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
And we also you can also check us out at
www dot thesnorts dot com that has all the links
to our streaming platforms UH and and band camp. Band
Camp has all of our merch up there as well.
I say all, but we have two shirts and UH,
so you can go check out the two shirts that
we have for.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Sale and and and do that at bandcamp for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Awesome, awesome, and I'll make sure to include all of
that into end of the posts and when I published
this in the next couple of weeks, so that is
great eron It's it's awesome talking again, and I hope
we get to do this again when your next record
comes out. I love the band and I can't wait
to see it live and experience it live sometime. But
(33:57):
thanks again for for making the time again to to
I'm over and chat with me about all of it.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
You are very welcome, Brett, Thank you very much and
happy to chat anytime, and we can do it two
or three times in a row, doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
You let me know and we'll go from there, but
thank you for all the support, and it's been it's
been a blast man. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Awesome thanks.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Three Crows says beside break Down, spit.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Youse happen, There's something else?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Start these stakes?
Speaker 7 (34:44):
You got back in is you can?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Jackson had now.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Soon listening the seas been honesty can a week could
be something.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
All right? And that wraps up another episode of the
B Side Breakdown. I want to thank Aaron Stokert from
the band The Snorts for coming on to talk about
their song Butterflies. In the background, you're hearing the song
Missing You for Days by the band Johnny Rook. If
you like what you hear, please go back and listen
to the previous episode because that's what it was all about.
I just want to thank Adam Coolong and Carry Bosel
for helping me put together the jingle you hear at
(35:37):
the beginning and the end of this episode. Up next,
I got a song called All I Need by the
band Exactly No, and I'll give you a taste of
that at the end of this episode. You know, thank
you so much for you continued support. Please subscribe to
this podcast wherever you get your podcast, stay safe and
staying out there, and we will catch up on the
next one. Thanks.
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I don't know what you just know I swear it.
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I'll be kids.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Your best story is a plotform?
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Can you just slip right in?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Will you carry in this waveless
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