February 2, 2026 • 43 mins
In this episode of B-Side Breakdown, Brett Johnson talks with Johnny Laberda from Battery Eyes and Andrew Cahak of Unstable Shapes about “Upside Down,” a collaborative track that stretches beyond both bands’ usual comfort zones.
Born from a casual conversation at Minneapolis mainstay Mortimer’s, the song evolved into one of the most anthemic and stylistically distinct moments on Battery Eyes’ upcoming album zero three.
The discussion digs into the song’s “Frankenstein” creation process—written separately, then stitched together through trust rather than traditional co-writing—and how shared vocals were designed to blur identity and perspective.
Johnny and Andrew unpack the song’s central idea of reframing situations, looking at problems from new angles, and embracing found interpretation over fixed meaning. The episode also highlights the importance of scene-level collaboration, thoughtful studio production, and why “Upside Down” feels just as much about creative process as it does about the lyrics themselves.
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Born from a casual conversation at Minneapolis mainstay Mortimer’s, the song evolved into one of the most anthemic and stylistically distinct moments on Battery Eyes’ upcoming album zero three.
The discussion digs into the song’s “Frankenstein” creation process—written separately, then stitched together through trust rather than traditional co-writing—and how shared vocals were designed to blur identity and perspective.
Johnny and Andrew unpack the song’s central idea of reframing situations, looking at problems from new angles, and embracing found interpretation over fixed meaning. The episode also highlights the importance of scene-level collaboration, thoughtful studio production, and why “Upside Down” feels just as much about creative process as it does about the lyrics themselves.
Follow Battery Eyes:
https://batteryeyes.bandcamp.com/
https://www.instagram.com/batteryeyes
Follow Unstable Shapes:
https://unstableshapes.bandcamp.com/
https://www.instagram.com/unstableshapes
Follow Cloudland:
https://www.instagram.com/cloudlandtheater
https://www.cloudlandtheater.com/
Thanks for supporting B-Side Breakdown — where the song is just the start of the story.
Brett Johnson
Host, B-Side Breakdown
https://www.patreon.com/c/bsidebreakdown
https://www.instagram.com/bsidebreakdown
https://linktr.ee/bsidebreakdown
#JohnnyLaberda #BatteryEyes #AndrewCahak #UnstableShapes #UpsideDown #ZeroThree #MinneapolisMusic #Collaboration #CreativeProcess #CloudlandTheater #BSideBreakdown #BrettJamesJohnson #MusicPodcast
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Free tros B Side Breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey everyone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown. My name
is Brett Johnson and I'm your host. This is episode
forty eight of a podcast where I talk with other artists,
musicians and songwriters about a song they've written that's meaningful
to them that they can give me permission to play
in its entirety on this episode so that you the
listener can hear it before we get deep into the
why behind it through our conversation throughout the episode. All right, cool,
(00:29):
So today I'm gonna be talking with Johnny from the
band Battery Eyes about their song Upside Down, featuring Andrew
from Unstable Shapes on vocals. So let's get into it.
Here is upside Down by Battery Eyes.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
With no les cut into the testyard the guy despite
the bat side of the podcast, flip around upside the bag,
(01:19):
focus up time, upside Down, time outside down, outside down.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
When I say we're not down, if you play on.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We're a fucking out this blas, then that's got through.
It's from that point of.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You, Hi bos godess, w do was you got it down?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
My jazz God time? Despite the big to the side
of the focus back up, tick down and up big
on the side of focus back, upside Down, timeside Down Time,
(02:52):
upside Down Time, upside down.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Bright.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
All right, and that was upside Down by Battery Eyes.
We're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come
back and chat with Johnny and Andrew about the song
and uh, what's going on with the collaboration. All right,
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Speaker 5 (04:02):
All right.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Thanks, all right, and we are back. Let's bring in
Johnny from Battery Eyes and Andrew from Unstable Shapes to
talk about the song upside Down. Hey, guys, thank you
so much for taking some time to talk to me.
This evening about the song. Thanks sir, Yeah, thanks for
having us absolutely so this is really fun. So Andrew,
(04:24):
it's fun to have you back again. I had talked
with Andrew and the guys from Unstable Shapes before, and
then to hear this collaboration of What's happening here, it's
really a great song. And you know, looking at I
just have to say, I mean, like looking at your
band photo and seeing the Seventh Street Entry T shirt
just makes me like miss Minneapolis and miss playing Seventh Street,
(04:46):
and and of course I involuntarily just imagine seeing you
guys there and playing this and hearing this through that
system in that environment which I is so near and
dear to me, and I love it so much that
I just all of a sudden it became like a
you know, like, holy shit, I really want to fly
to Minneapolis and some come see you guys. I'm super
(05:08):
stoked about it, and I'd love to hear what Why
did you guys want to talk about this song? And
how did this come about?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
That is a wonderful question. Well, it's.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Mostly because it's one of the singles on our new
upcoming album zero three Uh that's coming out in February.
But it also and probably more importantly features our good
friend mister Andrew Sahawk from Unstable Shapes on vocals with
the songs. So we're really trying to you know, put
(05:43):
that in the limelight with our our our friends that
we've collaborated with in the in the Minneapolis music scene.
Battery Eyes kind of press each theme of our of
our albums, we've tried to bring in friends and and
people that we really admire from the music scene. And
Andrew was one of the people who was name in fact,
(06:05):
and my vote was the first when we were working
on zero three to uh to collaborate with.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
So yeah, it was, uh, that was super cool. Like
I remember we were we were hanging out at Mortimer's
and I think Johnny, not to not to expose you
too much, but I think you were kind of drunk
and you were like, we just wrote a song, man,
and uh, you should you should do some vocals on it.
(06:33):
And I was like, yeah, Like I I really love collaborating.
I think it's so much fun. And I remember a
lot of the music that I listened to when I
was you know, a teenager had guest vocals on it
all the time, and and and sometimes it would just
be in a sort of a backup capacity, and it
was just kind of so cool because to be like, oh, hey,
(06:53):
you hear that guy just shouting something in the background,
like that's so and so or whatever. I always thought
that was really cool. So I'm always happy just to
even just to throw stuff. I think there's another song
or two that I do some some like weird stuff
on them on on this record too. But but this song, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(07:14):
because we just spent the day in the studio and
it was that was really a fun day. But you
like you were really pretty early on into the writing
of this record. I think you were like, hey, we
got a song we want you to do something on.
And I was like okay, but you like you never know,
like we're I'm like unstapleed ships, are good friends with
the Battery guys, Like i'd say that we're you guys
(07:35):
are some of our best friends in the scene, and
so like I was like, oh, yeah, it'll happen, but
like you never know, because stuff falls apart all the time,
and you know, I was just like, hey, whenever you're ready,
and you're like, no, it's coming, dude, don't worry, it's coming.
And then he said it to me and I was like, Okay,
we're actually doing this, and yeah, it's great. I was
(07:55):
excited to be offered the chance to do it, and
I had a lot of fun doing it, frankly, and
it was really a great experience just in the studio
hanging out with you guys and Andy who who worked
on the recording. It's just a great experience overall.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
No, that's awesome to hear the and that also just
you know, speaks to the I love that collaboration, just
how that works and how that worked in the Minneapolis
music scene and how it's still working today. Like I
love that the fact that right you're at Mortimer's and
that's where this kind of comes up. And then it's
right just you know, seeing friends doing doing spots on
(08:36):
each other's records. Like, I think it's awesome. So where
I listened to it a bunch of times, and frankly,
I think your voices blend pretty amazingly together because I'm like,
wait a minute, like Andrew, where are you singing in this?
Because I can't know I'm hearing you or Johnny or
both or what.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, I think Johnny usually does the beginning of the verses,
and then I'll do like the end of the verse,
and then during the chorus, I'm doubling Johnny, and then
I kind of do like the post chorus part two.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, So it really it was.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Kind of a cool thing, like like Johnny sent me like, hey,
here's what I've got, like you just like right around
and so like what was really kind of fun was
they didn't know what I was gonna do until I
got to the studio. So I had been working on
this and I knew what I was gonna do, but
they had no idea what I was gonna turn up with.
So I was really I was like, I think they're
(09:31):
gonna like this, but you never know. So I was like,
let's see what happens. And thankfully, I think it worked out.
I mean, I don't think we really had to rework
any of it that I can remember, so but yeah,
it was like I really was trying to play off
of what Johnny had already laid down, because he did
send me a demo with vocals on there. So I
(09:52):
wasn't just like it wasn't just like taking a stab
in the dark, like I knew what he was working with,
both lyrically and and like for for what he was singing,
so I could kind of build around that, which made
it really fun awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So then Johnny talked a little bit about like you
were saying, like, you know, hey, Andrew, we got this song.
We want you to, you know, basically do guest vocals
on it. But where did this where did this originate?
Is this just one of the gems that come out
of a just a practice you know, you're just at
your practice space and here it is, or was it
something specific that someone started and how did it come about?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, this, I would say the latter.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Absolutely, this song and I think you know we Andrew
would attest to this. This, this particular song is not
like any of the other songs on the our album.
It's not like anything I think we've ever recorded before
as far as like a Battery Eyes esque type song.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Yeah, it's and that was the that was the fun part.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
That was that That's when when Andrew was talking about
at that you know, that time at Mortimer's. It was
that spark of saying, hey, I got something and it's
not just a you know, this is a different song.
This is something different that we're going to try to do.
So that was where the you know, the excitement came
from with that one of let's see what happens with this,
(11:15):
you know, let's get a little let's let's kind of
frankenstein this together. I had, I had ideas I wanted.
I was going for something, you know, musically wise, not
lyrically wise or singing wise, but just the music.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I had something like, what if we did something anthemic,
what if we did something that was a little more
stands out and and a little bit different from a
punk song, and it's something that can you know, where
the riff kind of stands on its own, the opening
riff of guitar and whatnot a little bit different than
what we've done in the past. And then you know,
(11:50):
what kind of strong voice can we put on this.
I'm not the lead singer in Battery Eyes. Aaron LeMay
are our drummers actually does the majority of the singing.
I sing on a few of the songs. But I
was like, you know, to Andrew's point earlier, let's get
some let's get some something. Someone else's voice on this,
who has that delivery and that powerful voice and kind
(12:14):
of a style all their own, and that's where Andrew,
you know, came up with that for him to be
on this. And then also I knew, you know, unstable shapes.
He writes great lyrics is everything.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
So it's like, what twist can he put on this song?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
If I gave him, you know, my stuff, how can
he add to this Frankenstein song to to turn it
into something else?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh that's cool. So it wasn't like you had it all.
Here's I mean, here's like the music, here's the vocals,
here's the lyrics. Now, hey man, will you sing on
these parts? And like you take the second half of
the verses. But this is more or less the melody
or anything like that. It was just it sounds like
it was more of a sketch, but it was a
kind of more than a sketch. But I mean, you
(13:02):
had a lot of it together. But then it became this,
like you say, Frankenstein, like a like a just a
true collaborative thing where like Andrew, did you add did
you write lyrics into this as well?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah? So yeah, it's a true like sort of exquisite
corpse kind of thing. I mean, like I got a
I think it was an album recording, but it had
scratch vocals on there, so I knew what Johnny had
already put down. But I think you did end up
reworking in the vocals a little bit, the lyrics a
(13:34):
little bit. But yeah, like I wouldn't say we like
collaboration is not actually what we did. We didn't collaborate,
but I think they trusted me to fit what they
were doing, and I knew that they were going to
make something that I could throw down on, So like, sure,
(13:55):
we didn't really need to collaborate because we we just
knew that we were each going to bring the complimentary
pieces to make it work. Sure, sure, okay, got it? Cool?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Cool, And we definitely.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Didn't write it together, Like yeah, like the important thing
is understand we didn't write it together. We wrote it
separately and then brought it together, right right, right right?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
No, I get that that makes sense. So then where okay,
so when did the magical mortimrous conversation happen?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
How long ago is that? God?
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I think it was. I mean, it's got to be
like two years ago because we recorded it over a
year ago. Oh okay, you recorded in January of twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
This song has been fashionably late, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Got it. I mean, you know, records always take forever
to come out to so you know, like but I.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Really like two years ago. I mean that's two years ago.
So you recorded it because January twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Because I vaguely remember when we had that conversation at Mortz, Johnny,
you were wearing like a winter coat, so like it
had to been wintertime twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Wow, okay, I mean, like, yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
It was a while, like you know, and and so
like and the other thing it's very interesting is like
Johnny was saying, this is not the kind of song
the Battery, I sipicly writes, it's also not the kind
of song, but I typically sing on sure, and so
it was really fun to kind of stretch that muscle
a little bit and just do something like, you know,
(15:26):
the kind of vocal that I'm doing is sort of
similar to what I would do in Unstabled Shapes, but
the type of song is very different, because yeah, it's
like and the and the content is also very different too,
Like most of the Unstable Shapes record is pretty personal
and you know, and maybe it's universal, but it is
really about personal experiences, and this song is more I
(15:52):
don't know, instructional or uh, it is very anthemic, Like
Johnny said, it's more it's it's more trying to appeal
to you, know what, like how do you get through
something specific to you? I guess I don't quite know
how to articulate what I'm saying, but it's just a
(16:13):
very different experience from what I usually do. So that
was part of the challenge that I found really fun,
is that, Hey, this is something very different from what
I would normally do.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Sure, got it, got it, got it?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So then when so then when when was the recording session?
So if this all started in winter twenty twenty three,
but it got really it got finally recorded two years ago,
is it was it a long recording process or was
it like a one day thing?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Sorry, not two years ago? If we recorded January twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
My bad?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
God, that was my bad? Yeah. And the reason I
know that is because I get I have a little
app on my phone that helps me weed out my photos.
So every every day it shows me all the photos
that were taken on that that day of the year.
So many throughout all the years and just a couple
of weeks ago is when I saw the photos from
that recording session. So yeah, so it was what's that, Johnny,
(17:11):
You have photos from that one? Yeah? I got a couple.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I mean I didn't take a lot because we were like,
we were just hanging out and I didn't want to
like spoil the vibe. But yeah, I have some. I
could send them to you.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Oh, yes, that's photos help you know, like, yeah, jog
the memory.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
They help with.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah. No, I probably sent him to Danger and you
know danger. He probably just didn't distribute them to you.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, that's you know, the inner band. We don't we
don't always get the memo.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And hey, that sounds like a band.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Wait a minute, right exactly?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, No, I hear that, got it?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
So what studio was just done it this?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
We recorded all of our album at our last two
albums actually with a man named mister Andy Matheson at
Tree Speaks Studios, which is in Columbia Heights, Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And we yeah, we we booked a few days and
we had Andrew come in on one of the days.
Kind of we had everything ironed out, you know, he
and he and I were texting back and forth with
with lyrical idea and had you know, demos in hand
and kind of had an idea, but there was it wasn't.
I mean, I don't want to speak for Andrew, but
(18:26):
like I purposely and I didn't maybe Andrew, you might
this might be the first time you're hearing it, but
like I didn't want it to be solidified one hundred percent.
Like the the idea of this song you kind of
alluded to is like it's situational. It's, yeah, the ideas
of a of looking at things from different perspectives. I mean,
(18:48):
it's the song is called upside Down, but it's it's
it's about found interpretation. I guess if I could like
sum it up well, and I think you know, when
you and I were texting, I actually was trying to
go back.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
And look at because we have like notes and things
like that of it. Yeah, it's it's you know, it's
not like to point you know.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I know that you're you do a lot of more
personal introspective things like that, but I wanted with this
song it was about getting outside of comfort zones and
trying a little more, you know, can can we you know,
implied interest. Uh, you know, interpretation versus like creator interpretation
(19:34):
versus discovered or found interpretation. So the song, you know,
I I was I loved when I sent it off
to Andrew and was like, I can't wait to see
his take on this and what he because I know
what I think of this song, but I want to
know what he thinks of it and what he does
on it, because that's kind of the essence of the song.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
So got it.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
If I could, if I could wrap it up in
a pretty little box.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Then you know say that No for sure, No, that's
that's that is awesome.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Cool, so.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Awesome. Frankenstein job Like, I'm a huge fan and I
can't wait for the record to come out. So I
know this is coming out on a record called zero
three is kind of the name and convention of your albums, right,
and so when is zero three supposed.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
To be out?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Zero three? We actually have it comes out.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
So our release show happens in Minneapolis at the venue
cloud Land, and it's on February seventh, and everything should
be so this particular song, upside Down, will be available
a week before that. I don't have a calendar in
front of me, but a week before February seventh is
(20:51):
when this will be up on streaming. Okay to listen
to it and whatnot. We actually even have another single
right now out from the zero three record called Hail
Hail You have two Critical too.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Oh yeah we did.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
We did Critical Too, which is another collaboration. But yes,
thank you Andrew Andrews on the more on the ball
than I am with this. But yes, so our show,
our our release and everything is officially out to the
world and everything on February seventh.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Awesome, we're pressing vinyl. We'll be doing that.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
That will be available via you know, hit us up
on Instagram, hit us up on any of the social
media if you want to buy, and then also streaming
and everything.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
So got it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Is there a particular location I know, depending on the
day and who I'm talking to, bank campus in favor
or it is not. But is there is there a
place where this album is going to be sold generally speaking?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Or is it? Like for real?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Hit us up on instag if you want to buy one.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I mean, as far as the vinyl, we will, you'll
be able to go.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I mean, we were we're realists, you know, we're we
need to sell it where we can and so you'll
be able to to buy it on the streaming service.
But I mean also absolutely, I mean hit us up
and via Instagram and say something nice to us or
(22:27):
something nice to us, and.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Record so awesome.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
And I just want to say, like having heard the record,
because I've I've had this record for god, I don't know,
eight months now. I don't think very many you've heard it.
It's really really good. Like I remember just being in
the studio that day and you guys have played me
a bunch of other stuff, and I was like, yeah,
this is, this is great, Like this is people need
to hear this. So I really have tried to be
(22:53):
as big of an advocate as I can about this
Yeah record because I'm I'm proud to be on it
because I just think it's really good. I think it's
I mean, it's the best thing you guys ever done,
which I don't mean that is to you know, disregard
your other work. I'm just saying like it really does
feel like a big step forward. And I think it's
(23:17):
just such a cool thing that you have because like
you have Nikki on a on a couple of songs.
I think, well, you ever critical, and then I don't
know if she's done anything else, and so I just
think it's cool that you, you know, you guys have
expanded out your sound a little bit, but like it's
it's still a Battery Eyes record though too, Like it
still sounds like you guys. It just feels like the
kind of maturation of what you've been doing since you started.
(23:40):
And it's just it's really cool to be on it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Oh, this guy, he's too kind. This is why no, Andrew,
you know, this is what friends are for.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
So thank you. I appre we we appreciate that very much.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
We put a lot into the writing, into everything with this,
and you know, it's also like you guys are the reason,
you know, there's We wanted our friends obviously on this,
but we wanted people that were specific of like you know,
you know, people who have specific style and delivery and
(24:17):
are you know, have something to say, and people that
we want to collaborate with. And Andrew, like you said before,
is on a couple songs on this album, so not
just this particular song, but he sings and adds in
on a few others. So yeah, definitely definitely had a
fun time with that and love having him on the record.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
That is awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So is there anything else about the song, specifically how
the process came together with the other bandmates or the
Frankenstein sort of not collaboration, collaboration in the studio, anything
else that you wanted to talk about specific to the song.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just the lyrics. It's
it's I thought about this song a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I mean, it's been out for a little bit and
we haven't collect you know, worked on it for a while.
But the more and more I've been listening to this,
gearing up for for this and whatnot, it's kind of
it's taken on new meeting, which is exactly what the
song out. So it's like, it's it's kind of odd
that it's it just keeps kind of recycling.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
It's it's meaning to itself.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It's about found interpretations, about taking up you know, you're
looking at something and you don't necessarily like maybe what
what's going on or whatever? You know, find a new
way to look at it. Sure, I'll find a new
find a new light source, turn it, turn it on
its side, look at it from a different perspective, and
see if you can find new appreciation for it, you know,
(25:53):
not just this song, but you know, any situation, and
that's kind of what we uh, that's that's that was
my initial of the songs.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I think one of the things that's really interesting too
is you can also apply it to the actual creative
act itself. I know for myself. You know, I'm an
interdisciplinary creative person. I do all kinds of different things.
And part of being able to do that is you
kind of just have to train your brain to think creatively.
(26:26):
And part of that is if you get stuck on
it on a project, think of it in a different way.
I mean, there's I've written lyrics that I was like, oh,
think of this lyric as a magic trick, right, so
you have the setup and then you have the reveal. Right,
So that's part of like lyrically, what this song is
(26:46):
about is like you have to sometimes if you get stuck,
you have to take yourself and reposition yourself so that
you're viewing this thing was stuck from a different point
of view, and all of a sudden you can see
a way into it or a way through it or
out of it. Or whatever the case may be. Awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
No, thank you guys for sharing that. I love that
and that message really comes through in it, and you know,
it's a good application for me to practically, you know,
and in practice I should say, change my vantage point
deliberately to see it in a different light. That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Well let's do this.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Let's take a quick break and let's come back and
find out what you guys are working on next.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Cool, great, cool, awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
All right, we are back with Johnny and Andrew talking
about the song upside Down that's coming out on an
upcoming record from Battery Eyes. Thank you guys again for
chatting with me about this. So just to recap a
couple of things. We know that the the record release
show is February seventh at cloud Land in Minneapolis. That
(27:49):
is the year twenty twenty six, and you are both
performing on it, so it's a Battery I show. But
I know in Stable Shapes is going to be there
performing as well, and that you guys are gonna be
for will be performing this song live then, But you've
also done this before, Yeah, we played it.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Oh so when we did the the the Unstable Shapes
album release show, Battery Eyes played that, so we did it.
We did it at that show, and then so Battery
excuse me, Unstable Shapes has been on a little bit
of a hiatus right now, and so our last show
was in September, and we played it with Battery Eyes
(28:30):
on that show as well, so I came up and
did that too. So we've actually played it twice, which
is funny because I think we were under the ampression
that like, maybe we'll do this, but like, who knows
if it ever happened. So it is kind of fun
that we have played it a few times already, and
you know, I'm always down to do it. One of
the things that's a little tricky by doing it live
(28:52):
is I have to go back and re like re
remember the song because I did write it in kind
of a quick and like some type of this stuff.
I don't like to belabor it, like I kind of
like to go with my first instincts, but then I
have to, like when it's about remembering it, I actually
have to like drill it because like I said, I
(29:12):
didn't write the song. I just wrote like half of
the lyrics. So that's always a fun experience of being like,
oh yeah, Okay, I gotta remember this part because I think, like,
like Johnny, your part on the second verse is twice
as long as it is on the first, So I
have to be like, oh, yeah, wait a minute, let
him keep going because he's got to do this other
piece before I come in. So that's always a fun,
(29:33):
fun little challenge.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I mean, I'm thinking about this now, Andrew, I don't
know if you've thought about this.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
We wrote, you know, we collab got pseudo collaborated on this,
and then we did in the studio, but we didn't
record it live. You went in and did you know isolated.
The first time we ever did this the way that
the song is intended to be, where like we actually
are singing together, was that the I think it was
at your Unstable Shaped show.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, it was our release show.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
We were and we also had never done u a
rehearsal beforehand, Like we played that song on stage that night.
We had never done this before. We had never get together,
so that was like the first time. I'm just realizing now,
it's like jeez, okay, yeah, and I was.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Like, oh man, I hope I don't make a fool
of myself because then I have to come back later
and be like the cool guy. I'm like, I hope
you don't remember that I fucked that up earlier. But
luckily it went. It went totally fine. It was fun.
But yeah, it's it is always uh yeah, it's it's
very interesting to be like, oh, we're just gonna weigh it.
(30:46):
But you know what thought I mean, like, I really
do try not to be too precious about this stuff.
I want to be I want to be dialed in.
I want to be professional, but I also want it
to be you know, to feel right and not overly
rehearsed and feel I think this song is like that
in already, So it doesn't really benefit from being super
(31:11):
tight and drilled in to the max, like you want
to be dialed in, but it doesn't have to be perfect.
It can be a little sloppy and it's just as fun,
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, Oh that's awesome. That is cool. So then also, Johnny,
you were talking about that there's some are you making
some music videos for any of these songs off the
new record?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Yeah, we've got a few.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
We've got a few videos that we're going to be
coming out that we're working on with some local visual
artists and whatnot for the couple of songs on zero three,
and then I also this popped into my head. I
have to, uh, I got to call out my band
members because yeah, probably it'd be you know, they'll probably
give me the cold shoulder for a little bit or
(31:56):
but anyways, so yeah, so Aaron may Our drummer and singer,
and Battery Eyes and then Nick Danger the bass player.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
They I mean, Andrew and I worked.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
A lot on this song.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
But those guys are just as every bit is into
this as well, and sure kind of mixing their own
little recipe into the the you know, Frankenstein concoction as well.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
They you know, they definitely are you know.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Battery Eyes is like a tripod and you know, we
don't survive without those those two guys.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
They play probably in bigger part than I do and everything.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
So and I want that day we spend the studio.
I really did. I mean I kind of already knew
this going in, but I really got a better feel
for like how you guys work together, and it really
does feel like you guys do You're really open to
each other's ideas. I mean, like even I would be like, Hey,
I got an idea for this vocal part for you.
(32:57):
Aaron like give it a shot, and he's like, cool, yeah,
I give it a shot. Like, you guys really are
great about extending that courtesy to each other, and that's
really awesome. So I just want to shout that out
because it's always nice to see that.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Well, thank you for noticing me me.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And you know, when you're doing a band, it's like,
you know, we're not we're not making you know, bank
off this, Like let's let's make it a fun experience
when we write. Let's make it a fun experience when
we write, and let's let you know that's part of
the reason we brought you in as well. Let's make
this a really great experience, you know, because otherwise, what
(33:35):
the hell are we doing?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
You know?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah, I mean, studio is always a fun place to be.
And I think when you realize all the possibilities you
have in the studio and what you can do, it
really I mean, for a band that writes like punk
songs like you guys do, I think you do a
really good job of also maximizing what you could do
in the studio to add little pieces. I mean, like
(33:59):
on this song up side down the song the version
you sent me didn't have it, but on the final
version you got these like you're doing like the trem
arm on your I think you have tremolo on your
your guitar parts where it's just coming in and on
a tune like I'd never heard that from. Like that's
super cool, Like and you know that's not something you
(34:20):
would expect from like a punk band, but like that's
the kind of thing. You guys do a really good
job of taking those things you can do in the
studio and applying them to your to your sound. I
think it's really just fantastic. Like I said, I can't
say enough good things about this record. I think you
guys just really killed it.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Like I can't really quick full credit for all that
we like to add and sprinkle in little bits of
you know, non punk type stuff into punk just to
yeah fresh and funky. But I got to call out
Andy Mathieson for that one.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
I mean he produced for sure. I mean that was
that was his.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
You know, he's he definitely sprinkles in his uh and
he's an amazing engineer and he's the you know, the
reason we work with him is because he does those
little things.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
The whoa is that really happening in a punk song?
Like is that my hearing this?
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
That just made me want to listen to more of this.
So he's an extraordinary He's the extraordinary of those kind
of touches on a record.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So, yeah, guys like that are not the always the
easiest to find either. And it's funny that he's in
Minneapolis or from Columbia Heights. I know a couple other
dudes from Minneapolis that I've worked with in old records
that exactly are like that too, And so I don't
know if it's something in the water there, but man,
it's like those guys when you find them and they
can help pull those things out of you or or
(35:45):
guide it in a different direction that you didn't see before.
You know, just to add those elements in is just
such a gift when they when they contribute to it.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yeah, And some some producers will will find a way
to pull that out of you by being confrontational or
being like pushing you beyond your comfort zone. And Andy
really doesn't do that. Like Andy's like, no, it's already there,
Like let's just like with Andy, it's almost you almost
feel like he's just removing, you know, like things that
(36:13):
are in the way to give you the ability to
just kind of coast through it. Like I had a
really great time working with Anna. Think he's a sweetheart
for one thing, and just yeah, like I feel like
for you guys in particular, I think it's really great
that he just kind of allows you. It's almost like
you know that there's that what do they talk about
(36:34):
Michaelangelo's David Like he's removing the pieces of the stone
that isn't the statue. That's kind of what it feels
like Andy is doing with you guys, is he's removing
the pieces of it that aren't battery eyes, and what
you're left with is something impressive after he's done. It's
really cool. That is cool.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
So then Andrew, you said that Unstable Shapes has been
on hiatus since September, and then now you're kind of
picking back up on the show February seventh. Is this
like a a return of Unstable Shapes or is this
still or is this sort of just to drop in
and you're still kind of we kind of.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
So we have some stuff that's I don't know if
it's something I can talk about. It's nothing crazy or
anything like that, but we just we've got some stuff
going on behind the scenes that we're that's kind of
keeping us a little bit busy. You know, we had
a big year. Uh, twenty twenty five was a big
year for us, like with our album release and and
all that stuff. So you know, we're kind of taking
(37:31):
a moment just to you know, see what we do next,
and like, you know, we have some ideas so awesome,
we'll see where it goes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Cool, Well, we'll look more for or from Unstable Shapes
as we get into twenty twenty six after the show.
Awesome man so right. Record release coming up February seventh
at Cloudland in Minneapolis. Everybody who's listening, you're gonna hear
this before that show happens. So if you're in the
Twin Cities metro area or in driveable distance, please go
(38:01):
to that show and shure your support. Guys, thank you
so much.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Can I just say a little bit more about Cloudland
solid Land cloud Land is event is a smaller venue
that's owned and operated by musicians. It's a fantastic venue
in the Long Fellow neighborhood, and so we encourage you
to come out not just to see us, but to
support them because they're doing great things and giving a
(38:26):
lot of people a safe space and a great place
to make music. And also like this, it's a small,
small venue, so it's very intimate and it feels great
to play this kind of music in that space. So
you should take advantage of it. You should come out
and join us because it will be worth it.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I just to add on that too, Like you know,
with you know, we can't ignore what's going on, not
to get into you know, everything else. But Cloudland is
definitely you know, they pride themselves on being a safe
space in Minneapolis, a place where artists can can come
together and support like how we you know, Batteries and
Unstable Shapes.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
There's a billion other bands that are that are good friends.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
You know, We've got our other good friends, which I
feel I have to I have to say, like, you know,
we've got Laura Larson on our release show on the seventh,
who plays in Scrunchies.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
She's amazing. Larsen is amazing, exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, Scrunchies is like we've band is amazing. That's a
whole other on that we've got in Lou. We mentioned
earlier on the podcast, Nikki Post is the lead singer.
He is a guest singing on at least one, maybe
two of our songs.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
I think, yeah, I think she's on two of your songs.
And yeah in Lou rules too.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
He's a really good friend of ours.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
You know, we've played shows within Lou before. You know,
we're all we're all trying to support each other. And
these were the bands that we when we were like yep,
release show these know, hopefully they don't have any conflicts
like we got to play you know. Yeah, So it's
a it's Laura Larson doing her solo stuff. It's in
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lou and it's Unstable Shapes and us and yeah, like
it like what Aaron thing about Cloudland. You know, it's
a place where, it's a safe place where and it's
a great venue to play at and they always treat
us well and we love that we get to do
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the show there.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
And I'll say this, I haven't played a show in
four weeks, four months, so I have a lot of
energy to burn. And it's yeah, like like Johnny's saying,
the city of Minneapolis is going through a lot right now.
There is a lot of there's good reasons to gather
together and be amongst your friends. So I'm I personally
(40:54):
am very excited to get to have that experience with people.
So I hope people will come out and have it
with us, yep.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
And being you know, from Minneapolis originally and spent a
lot of my you know, musical years there, Like, I'm
just grateful that I get to, you know, help facilitate
this discussion, to get it out in advance before the show,
to help kind of help that cause along too, because
it just sounds like Gas are doing really good work
in a lot of areas and with what cloud Lane's
doing as well. So all that's super dope and warms
(41:24):
my heart and I'm just super grateful that, uh yeah,
that we got to chat today. So you guys, thank
you so much for coming on and doing this. I'll uh,
I'll get this out and uh we'll get you know,
as many people to the show as we can. But
thanks again, and uh yeah, man, I just really appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Thanks Brett. We appreciate the opportunity to talk about it.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Of course, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Trust beside breakdown all right, And that wraps up another
(42:28):
episode of the b side Breakdown or I want to
thank Johnny and Andrew for coming on to talk about
the Battery Eyes song Upside Down Andrews from the band
Unstable Shapes and with guest vocals on the track. It
was great to have you both on, and you know,
everybody please go out to their show coming up. In
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Speaker 5 (42:48):
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Speaker 5 (43:10):
All right.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Thanks well
Free tros B Side Breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey everyone, welcome to the B Side Breakdown. My name
is Brett Johnson and I'm your host. This is episode
forty eight of a podcast where I talk with other artists,
musicians and songwriters about a song they've written that's meaningful
to them that they can give me permission to play
in its entirety on this episode so that you the
listener can hear it before we get deep into the
why behind it through our conversation throughout the episode. All right, cool,
(00:29):
So today I'm gonna be talking with Johnny from the
band Battery Eyes about their song Upside Down, featuring Andrew
from Unstable Shapes on vocals. So let's get into it.
Here is upside Down by Battery Eyes.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
With no les cut into the testyard the guy despite
the bat side of the podcast, flip around upside the bag,
(01:19):
focus up time, upside Down, time outside down, outside down.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
When I say we're not down, if you play on.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We're a fucking out this blas, then that's got through.
It's from that point of.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You, Hi bos godess, w do was you got it down?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
My jazz God time? Despite the big to the side
of the focus back up, tick down and up big
on the side of focus back, upside Down, timeside Down Time,
(02:52):
upside Down Time, upside down.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Bright.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
All right, and that was upside Down by Battery Eyes.
We're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come
back and chat with Johnny and Andrew about the song
and uh, what's going on with the collaboration. All right,
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Speaker 5 (04:02):
All right.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Thanks, all right, and we are back. Let's bring in
Johnny from Battery Eyes and Andrew from Unstable Shapes to
talk about the song upside Down. Hey, guys, thank you
so much for taking some time to talk to me.
This evening about the song. Thanks sir, Yeah, thanks for
having us absolutely so this is really fun. So Andrew,
(04:24):
it's fun to have you back again. I had talked
with Andrew and the guys from Unstable Shapes before, and
then to hear this collaboration of What's happening here, it's
really a great song. And you know, looking at I
just have to say, I mean, like looking at your
band photo and seeing the Seventh Street Entry T shirt
just makes me like miss Minneapolis and miss playing Seventh Street,
(04:46):
and and of course I involuntarily just imagine seeing you
guys there and playing this and hearing this through that
system in that environment which I is so near and
dear to me, and I love it so much that
I just all of a sudden it became like a
you know, like, holy shit, I really want to fly
to Minneapolis and some come see you guys. I'm super
(05:08):
stoked about it, and I'd love to hear what Why
did you guys want to talk about this song? And
how did this come about?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
That is a wonderful question. Well, it's.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Mostly because it's one of the singles on our new
upcoming album zero three Uh that's coming out in February.
But it also and probably more importantly features our good
friend mister Andrew Sahawk from Unstable Shapes on vocals with
the songs. So we're really trying to you know, put
(05:43):
that in the limelight with our our our friends that
we've collaborated with in the in the Minneapolis music scene.
Battery Eyes kind of press each theme of our of
our albums, we've tried to bring in friends and and
people that we really admire from the music scene. And
Andrew was one of the people who was name in fact,
(06:05):
and my vote was the first when we were working
on zero three to uh to collaborate with.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
So yeah, it was, uh, that was super cool. Like
I remember we were we were hanging out at Mortimer's
and I think Johnny, not to not to expose you
too much, but I think you were kind of drunk
and you were like, we just wrote a song, man,
and uh, you should you should do some vocals on it.
(06:33):
And I was like, yeah, Like I I really love collaborating.
I think it's so much fun. And I remember a
lot of the music that I listened to when I
was you know, a teenager had guest vocals on it
all the time, and and and sometimes it would just
be in a sort of a backup capacity, and it
was just kind of so cool because to be like, oh, hey,
(06:53):
you hear that guy just shouting something in the background,
like that's so and so or whatever. I always thought
that was really cool. So I'm always happy just to
even just to throw stuff. I think there's another song
or two that I do some some like weird stuff
on them on on this record too. But but this song, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(07:14):
because we just spent the day in the studio and
it was that was really a fun day. But you
like you were really pretty early on into the writing
of this record. I think you were like, hey, we
got a song we want you to do something on.
And I was like okay, but you like you never know,
like we're I'm like unstapleed ships, are good friends with
the Battery guys, Like i'd say that we're you guys
(07:35):
are some of our best friends in the scene, and
so like I was like, oh, yeah, it'll happen, but
like you never know, because stuff falls apart all the time,
and you know, I was just like, hey, whenever you're ready,
and you're like, no, it's coming, dude, don't worry, it's coming.
And then he said it to me and I was like, Okay,
we're actually doing this, and yeah, it's great. I was
(07:55):
excited to be offered the chance to do it, and
I had a lot of fun doing it, frankly, and
it was really a great experience just in the studio
hanging out with you guys and Andy who who worked
on the recording. It's just a great experience overall.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
No, that's awesome to hear the and that also just
you know, speaks to the I love that collaboration, just
how that works and how that worked in the Minneapolis
music scene and how it's still working today. Like I
love that the fact that right you're at Mortimer's and
that's where this kind of comes up. And then it's
right just you know, seeing friends doing doing spots on
(08:36):
each other's records. Like, I think it's awesome. So where
I listened to it a bunch of times, and frankly,
I think your voices blend pretty amazingly together because I'm like,
wait a minute, like Andrew, where are you singing in this?
Because I can't know I'm hearing you or Johnny or
both or what.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, I think Johnny usually does the beginning of the verses,
and then I'll do like the end of the verse,
and then during the chorus, I'm doubling Johnny, and then
I kind of do like the post chorus part two.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, So it really it was.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Kind of a cool thing, like like Johnny sent me like, hey,
here's what I've got, like you just like right around
and so like what was really kind of fun was
they didn't know what I was gonna do until I
got to the studio. So I had been working on
this and I knew what I was gonna do, but
they had no idea what I was gonna turn up with.
So I was really I was like, I think they're
(09:31):
gonna like this, but you never know. So I was like,
let's see what happens. And thankfully, I think it worked out.
I mean, I don't think we really had to rework
any of it that I can remember, so but yeah,
it was like I really was trying to play off
of what Johnny had already laid down, because he did
send me a demo with vocals on there. So I
(09:52):
wasn't just like it wasn't just like taking a stab
in the dark, like I knew what he was working with,
both lyrically and and like for for what he was singing,
so I could kind of build around that, which made
it really fun awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So then Johnny talked a little bit about like you
were saying, like, you know, hey, Andrew, we got this song.
We want you to, you know, basically do guest vocals
on it. But where did this where did this originate?
Is this just one of the gems that come out
of a just a practice you know, you're just at
your practice space and here it is, or was it
something specific that someone started and how did it come about?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, this, I would say the latter.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Absolutely, this song and I think you know we Andrew
would attest to this. This, this particular song is not
like any of the other songs on the our album.
It's not like anything I think we've ever recorded before
as far as like a Battery Eyes esque type song.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Yeah, it's and that was the that was the fun part.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
That was that That's when when Andrew was talking about
at that you know, that time at Mortimer's. It was
that spark of saying, hey, I got something and it's
not just a you know, this is a different song.
This is something different that we're going to try to do.
So that was where the you know, the excitement came
from with that one of let's see what happens with this,
(11:15):
you know, let's get a little let's let's kind of
frankenstein this together. I had, I had ideas I wanted.
I was going for something, you know, musically wise, not
lyrically wise or singing wise, but just the music.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I had something like, what if we did something anthemic,
what if we did something that was a little more
stands out and and a little bit different from a
punk song, and it's something that can you know, where
the riff kind of stands on its own, the opening
riff of guitar and whatnot a little bit different than
what we've done in the past. And then you know,
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what kind of strong voice can we put on this.
I'm not the lead singer in Battery Eyes. Aaron LeMay
are our drummers actually does the majority of the singing.
I sing on a few of the songs. But I
was like, you know, to Andrew's point earlier, let's get
some let's get some something. Someone else's voice on this,
who has that delivery and that powerful voice and kind
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of a style all their own, and that's where Andrew,
you know, came up with that for him to be
on this. And then also I knew, you know, unstable shapes.
He writes great lyrics is everything.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
So it's like, what twist can he put on this song?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
If I gave him, you know, my stuff, how can
he add to this Frankenstein song to to turn it
into something else?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh that's cool. So it wasn't like you had it all.
Here's I mean, here's like the music, here's the vocals,
here's the lyrics. Now, hey man, will you sing on
these parts? And like you take the second half of
the verses. But this is more or less the melody
or anything like that. It was just it sounds like
it was more of a sketch, but it was a
kind of more than a sketch. But I mean, you
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had a lot of it together. But then it became this,
like you say, Frankenstein, like a like a just a
true collaborative thing where like Andrew, did you add did
you write lyrics into this as well?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah? So yeah, it's a true like sort of exquisite
corpse kind of thing. I mean, like I got a
I think it was an album recording, but it had
scratch vocals on there, so I knew what Johnny had
already put down. But I think you did end up
reworking in the vocals a little bit, the lyrics a
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little bit. But yeah, like I wouldn't say we like
collaboration is not actually what we did. We didn't collaborate,
but I think they trusted me to fit what they
were doing, and I knew that they were going to
make something that I could throw down on, So like, sure,
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we didn't really need to collaborate because we we just
knew that we were each going to bring the complimentary
pieces to make it work. Sure, sure, okay, got it? Cool?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Cool, And we definitely.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Didn't write it together, Like yeah, like the important thing
is understand we didn't write it together. We wrote it
separately and then brought it together, right right, right right?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
No, I get that that makes sense. So then where okay,
so when did the magical mortimrous conversation happen?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
How long ago is that? God?
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I think it was. I mean, it's got to be
like two years ago because we recorded it over a
year ago. Oh okay, you recorded in January of twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
This song has been fashionably late, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Got it. I mean, you know, records always take forever
to come out to so you know, like but I.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Really like two years ago. I mean that's two years ago.
So you recorded it because January twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Because I vaguely remember when we had that conversation at Mortz, Johnny,
you were wearing like a winter coat, so like it
had to been wintertime twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Wow, okay, I mean, like, yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
It was a while, like you know, and and so
like and the other thing it's very interesting is like
Johnny was saying, this is not the kind of song
the Battery, I sipicly writes, it's also not the kind
of song, but I typically sing on sure, and so
it was really fun to kind of stretch that muscle
a little bit and just do something like, you know,
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the kind of vocal that I'm doing is sort of
similar to what I would do in Unstabled Shapes, but
the type of song is very different, because yeah, it's
like and the and the content is also very different too,
Like most of the Unstable Shapes record is pretty personal
and you know, and maybe it's universal, but it is
really about personal experiences, and this song is more I
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don't know, instructional or uh, it is very anthemic, Like
Johnny said, it's more it's it's more trying to appeal
to you, know what, like how do you get through
something specific to you? I guess I don't quite know
how to articulate what I'm saying, but it's just a
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very different experience from what I usually do. So that
was part of the challenge that I found really fun,
is that, Hey, this is something very different from what
I would normally do.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Sure, got it, got it, got it?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So then when so then when when was the recording session?
So if this all started in winter twenty twenty three,
but it got really it got finally recorded two years ago,
is it was it a long recording process or was
it like a one day thing?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Sorry, not two years ago? If we recorded January twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
My bad?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
God, that was my bad? Yeah. And the reason I
know that is because I get I have a little
app on my phone that helps me weed out my photos.
So every every day it shows me all the photos
that were taken on that that day of the year.
So many throughout all the years and just a couple
of weeks ago is when I saw the photos from
that recording session. So yeah, so it was what's that, Johnny,
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You have photos from that one? Yeah? I got a couple.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I mean I didn't take a lot because we were like,
we were just hanging out and I didn't want to
like spoil the vibe. But yeah, I have some. I
could send them to you.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Oh, yes, that's photos help you know, like, yeah, jog
the memory.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
They help with.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah. No, I probably sent him to Danger and you
know danger. He probably just didn't distribute them to you.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, that's you know, the inner band. We don't we
don't always get the memo.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And hey, that sounds like a band.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Wait a minute, right exactly?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, No, I hear that, got it?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
So what studio was just done it this?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
We recorded all of our album at our last two
albums actually with a man named mister Andy Matheson at
Tree Speaks Studios, which is in Columbia Heights, Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And we yeah, we we booked a few days and
we had Andrew come in on one of the days.
Kind of we had everything ironed out, you know, he
and he and I were texting back and forth with
with lyrical idea and had you know, demos in hand
and kind of had an idea, but there was it wasn't.
I mean, I don't want to speak for Andrew, but
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like I purposely and I didn't maybe Andrew, you might
this might be the first time you're hearing it, but
like I didn't want it to be solidified one hundred percent.
Like the the idea of this song you kind of
alluded to is like it's situational. It's, yeah, the ideas
of a of looking at things from different perspectives. I mean,
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it's the song is called upside Down, but it's it's
it's about found interpretation. I guess if I could like
sum it up well, and I think you know, when
you and I were texting, I actually was trying to
go back.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
And look at because we have like notes and things
like that of it. Yeah, it's it's you know, it's
not like to point you know.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I know that you're you do a lot of more
personal introspective things like that, but I wanted with this
song it was about getting outside of comfort zones and
trying a little more, you know, can can we you know,
implied interest. Uh, you know, interpretation versus like creator interpretation
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versus discovered or found interpretation. So the song, you know,
I I was I loved when I sent it off
to Andrew and was like, I can't wait to see
his take on this and what he because I know
what I think of this song, but I want to
know what he thinks of it and what he does
on it, because that's kind of the essence of the song.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
So got it.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
If I could, if I could wrap it up in
a pretty little box.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Then you know say that No for sure, No, that's
that's that is awesome.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Cool, so.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Awesome. Frankenstein job Like, I'm a huge fan and I
can't wait for the record to come out. So I
know this is coming out on a record called zero
three is kind of the name and convention of your albums, right,
and so when is zero three supposed.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
To be out?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Zero three? We actually have it comes out.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
So our release show happens in Minneapolis at the venue
cloud Land, and it's on February seventh, and everything should
be so this particular song, upside Down, will be available
a week before that. I don't have a calendar in
front of me, but a week before February seventh is
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when this will be up on streaming. Okay to listen
to it and whatnot. We actually even have another single
right now out from the zero three record called Hail
Hail You have two Critical too.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Oh yeah we did.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
We did Critical Too, which is another collaboration. But yes,
thank you Andrew Andrews on the more on the ball
than I am with this. But yes, so our show,
our our release and everything is officially out to the
world and everything on February seventh.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Awesome, we're pressing vinyl. We'll be doing that.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
That will be available via you know, hit us up
on Instagram, hit us up on any of the social
media if you want to buy, and then also streaming
and everything.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
So got it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Is there a particular location I know, depending on the
day and who I'm talking to, bank campus in favor
or it is not. But is there is there a
place where this album is going to be sold generally speaking?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Or is it? Like for real?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Hit us up on instag if you want to buy one.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I mean, as far as the vinyl, we will, you'll
be able to go.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I mean, we were we're realists, you know, we're we
need to sell it where we can and so you'll
be able to to buy it on the streaming service.
But I mean also absolutely, I mean hit us up
and via Instagram and say something nice to us or
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something nice to us, and.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Record so awesome.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
And I just want to say, like having heard the record,
because I've I've had this record for god, I don't know,
eight months now. I don't think very many you've heard it.
It's really really good. Like I remember just being in
the studio that day and you guys have played me
a bunch of other stuff, and I was like, yeah,
this is, this is great, Like this is people need
to hear this. So I really have tried to be
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as big of an advocate as I can about this
Yeah record because I'm I'm proud to be on it
because I just think it's really good. I think it's
I mean, it's the best thing you guys ever done,
which I don't mean that is to you know, disregard
your other work. I'm just saying like it really does
feel like a big step forward. And I think it's
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just such a cool thing that you have because like
you have Nikki on a on a couple of songs.
I think, well, you ever critical, and then I don't
know if she's done anything else, and so I just
think it's cool that you, you know, you guys have
expanded out your sound a little bit, but like it's
it's still a Battery Eyes record though too, Like it
still sounds like you guys. It just feels like the
kind of maturation of what you've been doing since you started.
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And it's just it's really cool to be on it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Oh, this guy, he's too kind. This is why no, Andrew,
you know, this is what friends are for.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
So thank you. I appre we we appreciate that very much.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
We put a lot into the writing, into everything with this,
and you know, it's also like you guys are the reason,
you know, there's We wanted our friends obviously on this,
but we wanted people that were specific of like you know,
you know, people who have specific style and delivery and
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are you know, have something to say, and people that
we want to collaborate with. And Andrew, like you said before,
is on a couple songs on this album, so not
just this particular song, but he sings and adds in
on a few others. So yeah, definitely definitely had a
fun time with that and love having him on the record.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
That is awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So is there anything else about the song, specifically how
the process came together with the other bandmates or the
Frankenstein sort of not collaboration, collaboration in the studio, anything
else that you wanted to talk about specific to the song.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just the lyrics. It's
it's I thought about this song a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I mean, it's been out for a little bit and
we haven't collect you know, worked on it for a while.
But the more and more I've been listening to this,
gearing up for for this and whatnot, it's kind of
it's taken on new meeting, which is exactly what the
song out. So it's like, it's it's kind of odd
that it's it just keeps kind of recycling.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
It's it's meaning to itself.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It's about found interpretations, about taking up you know, you're
looking at something and you don't necessarily like maybe what
what's going on or whatever? You know, find a new
way to look at it. Sure, I'll find a new
find a new light source, turn it, turn it on
its side, look at it from a different perspective, and
see if you can find new appreciation for it, you know,
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not just this song, but you know, any situation, and
that's kind of what we uh, that's that's that was
my initial of the songs.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I think one of the things that's really interesting too
is you can also apply it to the actual creative
act itself. I know for myself. You know, I'm an
interdisciplinary creative person. I do all kinds of different things.
And part of being able to do that is you
kind of just have to train your brain to think creatively.
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And part of that is if you get stuck on
it on a project, think of it in a different way.
I mean, there's I've written lyrics that I was like, oh,
think of this lyric as a magic trick, right, so
you have the setup and then you have the reveal. Right,
So that's part of like lyrically, what this song is
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about is like you have to sometimes if you get stuck,
you have to take yourself and reposition yourself so that
you're viewing this thing was stuck from a different point
of view, and all of a sudden you can see
a way into it or a way through it or
out of it. Or whatever the case may be. Awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
No, thank you guys for sharing that. I love that
and that message really comes through in it, and you know,
it's a good application for me to practically, you know,
and in practice I should say, change my vantage point
deliberately to see it in a different light. That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Well let's do this.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Let's take a quick break and let's come back and
find out what you guys are working on next.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Cool, great, cool, awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
All right, we are back with Johnny and Andrew talking
about the song upside Down that's coming out on an
upcoming record from Battery Eyes. Thank you guys again for
chatting with me about this. So just to recap a
couple of things. We know that the the record release
show is February seventh at cloud Land in Minneapolis. That
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is the year twenty twenty six, and you are both
performing on it, so it's a Battery I show. But
I know in Stable Shapes is going to be there
performing as well, and that you guys are gonna be
for will be performing this song live then, But you've
also done this before, Yeah, we played it.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Oh so when we did the the the Unstable Shapes
album release show, Battery Eyes played that, so we did it.
We did it at that show, and then so Battery
excuse me, Unstable Shapes has been on a little bit
of a hiatus right now, and so our last show
was in September, and we played it with Battery Eyes
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on that show as well, so I came up and
did that too. So we've actually played it twice, which
is funny because I think we were under the ampression
that like, maybe we'll do this, but like, who knows
if it ever happened. So it is kind of fun
that we have played it a few times already, and
you know, I'm always down to do it. One of
the things that's a little tricky by doing it live
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is I have to go back and re like re
remember the song because I did write it in kind
of a quick and like some type of this stuff.
I don't like to belabor it, like I kind of
like to go with my first instincts, but then I
have to, like when it's about remembering it, I actually
have to like drill it because like I said, I
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didn't write the song. I just wrote like half of
the lyrics. So that's always a fun experience of being like,
oh yeah, Okay, I gotta remember this part because I think, like,
like Johnny, your part on the second verse is twice
as long as it is on the first, So I
have to be like, oh, yeah, wait a minute, let
him keep going because he's got to do this other
piece before I come in. So that's always a fun,
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fun little challenge.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I mean, I'm thinking about this now, Andrew, I don't
know if you've thought about this.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
We wrote, you know, we collab got pseudo collaborated on this,
and then we did in the studio, but we didn't
record it live. You went in and did you know isolated.
The first time we ever did this the way that
the song is intended to be, where like we actually
are singing together, was that the I think it was
at your Unstable Shaped show.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, it was our release show.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
We were and we also had never done u a
rehearsal beforehand, Like we played that song on stage that night.
We had never done this before. We had never get together,
so that was like the first time. I'm just realizing now,
it's like jeez, okay, yeah, and I was.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Like, oh man, I hope I don't make a fool
of myself because then I have to come back later
and be like the cool guy. I'm like, I hope
you don't remember that I fucked that up earlier. But
luckily it went. It went totally fine. It was fun.
But yeah, it's it is always uh yeah, it's it's
very interesting to be like, oh, we're just gonna weigh it.
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But you know what thought I mean, like, I really
do try not to be too precious about this stuff.
I want to be I want to be dialed in.
I want to be professional, but I also want it
to be you know, to feel right and not overly
rehearsed and feel I think this song is like that
in already, So it doesn't really benefit from being super
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tight and drilled in to the max, like you want
to be dialed in, but it doesn't have to be perfect.
It can be a little sloppy and it's just as fun,
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, Oh that's awesome. That is cool. So then also, Johnny,
you were talking about that there's some are you making
some music videos for any of these songs off the
new record?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Yeah, we've got a few.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
We've got a few videos that we're going to be
coming out that we're working on with some local visual
artists and whatnot for the couple of songs on zero three,
and then I also this popped into my head. I
have to, uh, I got to call out my band
members because yeah, probably it'd be you know, they'll probably
give me the cold shoulder for a little bit or
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but anyways, so yeah, so Aaron may Our drummer and singer,
and Battery Eyes and then Nick Danger the bass player.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
They I mean, Andrew and I worked.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
A lot on this song.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
But those guys are just as every bit is into
this as well, and sure kind of mixing their own
little recipe into the the you know, Frankenstein concoction as well.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
They you know, they definitely are you know.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Battery Eyes is like a tripod and you know, we
don't survive without those those two guys.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
They play probably in bigger part than I do and everything.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
So and I want that day we spend the studio.
I really did. I mean I kind of already knew
this going in, but I really got a better feel
for like how you guys work together, and it really
does feel like you guys do You're really open to
each other's ideas. I mean, like even I would be like, Hey,
I got an idea for this vocal part for you.
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Aaron like give it a shot, and he's like, cool, yeah,
I give it a shot. Like, you guys really are
great about extending that courtesy to each other, and that's
really awesome. So I just want to shout that out
because it's always nice to see that.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Well, thank you for noticing me me.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And you know, when you're doing a band, it's like,
you know, we're not we're not making you know, bank
off this, Like let's let's make it a fun experience
when we write. Let's make it a fun experience when
we write, and let's let you know that's part of
the reason we brought you in as well. Let's make
this a really great experience, you know, because otherwise, what
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the hell are we doing?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
You know?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah, I mean, studio is always a fun place to be.
And I think when you realize all the possibilities you
have in the studio and what you can do, it
really I mean, for a band that writes like punk
songs like you guys do, I think you do a
really good job of also maximizing what you could do
in the studio to add little pieces. I mean, like
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on this song up side down the song the version
you sent me didn't have it, but on the final
version you got these like you're doing like the trem
arm on your I think you have tremolo on your
your guitar parts where it's just coming in and on
a tune like I'd never heard that from. Like that's
super cool, Like and you know that's not something you
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would expect from like a punk band, but like that's
the kind of thing. You guys do a really good
job of taking those things you can do in the
studio and applying them to your to your sound. I
think it's really just fantastic. Like I said, I can't
say enough good things about this record. I think you
guys just really killed it.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Like I can't really quick full credit for all that
we like to add and sprinkle in little bits of
you know, non punk type stuff into punk just to
yeah fresh and funky. But I got to call out
Andy Mathieson for that one.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
I mean he produced for sure. I mean that was
that was his.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
You know, he's he definitely sprinkles in his uh and
he's an amazing engineer and he's the you know, the
reason we work with him is because he does those
little things.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
The whoa is that really happening in a punk song?
Like is that my hearing this?
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
That just made me want to listen to more of this.
So he's an extraordinary He's the extraordinary of those kind
of touches on a record.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So, yeah, guys like that are not the always the
easiest to find either. And it's funny that he's in
Minneapolis or from Columbia Heights. I know a couple other
dudes from Minneapolis that I've worked with in old records
that exactly are like that too, And so I don't
know if it's something in the water there, but man,
it's like those guys when you find them and they
can help pull those things out of you or or
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guide it in a different direction that you didn't see before.
You know, just to add those elements in is just
such a gift when they when they contribute to it.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yeah, And some some producers will will find a way
to pull that out of you by being confrontational or
being like pushing you beyond your comfort zone. And Andy
really doesn't do that. Like Andy's like, no, it's already there,
Like let's just like with Andy, it's almost you almost
feel like he's just removing, you know, like things that
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are in the way to give you the ability to
just kind of coast through it. Like I had a
really great time working with Anna. Think he's a sweetheart
for one thing, and just yeah, like I feel like
for you guys in particular, I think it's really great
that he just kind of allows you. It's almost like
you know that there's that what do they talk about
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Michaelangelo's David Like he's removing the pieces of the stone
that isn't the statue. That's kind of what it feels
like Andy is doing with you guys, is he's removing
the pieces of it that aren't battery eyes, and what
you're left with is something impressive after he's done. It's
really cool. That is cool.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
So then Andrew, you said that Unstable Shapes has been
on hiatus since September, and then now you're kind of
picking back up on the show February seventh. Is this
like a a return of Unstable Shapes or is this
still or is this sort of just to drop in
and you're still kind of we kind of.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
So we have some stuff that's I don't know if
it's something I can talk about. It's nothing crazy or
anything like that, but we just we've got some stuff
going on behind the scenes that we're that's kind of
keeping us a little bit busy. You know, we had
a big year. Uh, twenty twenty five was a big
year for us, like with our album release and and
all that stuff. So you know, we're kind of taking
(37:31):
a moment just to you know, see what we do next,
and like, you know, we have some ideas so awesome,
we'll see where it goes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Cool, Well, we'll look more for or from Unstable Shapes
as we get into twenty twenty six after the show.
Awesome man so right. Record release coming up February seventh
at Cloudland in Minneapolis. Everybody who's listening, you're gonna hear
this before that show happens. So if you're in the
Twin Cities metro area or in driveable distance, please go
(38:01):
to that show and shure your support. Guys, thank you
so much.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Can I just say a little bit more about Cloudland
solid Land cloud Land is event is a smaller venue
that's owned and operated by musicians. It's a fantastic venue
in the Long Fellow neighborhood, and so we encourage you
to come out not just to see us, but to
support them because they're doing great things and giving a
(38:26):
lot of people a safe space and a great place
to make music. And also like this, it's a small,
small venue, so it's very intimate and it feels great
to play this kind of music in that space. So
you should take advantage of it. You should come out
and join us because it will be worth it.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I just to add on that too, Like you know,
with you know, we can't ignore what's going on, not
to get into you know, everything else. But Cloudland is
definitely you know, they pride themselves on being a safe
space in Minneapolis, a place where artists can can come
together and support like how we you know, Batteries and
Unstable Shapes.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
There's a billion other bands that are that are good friends.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
You know, We've got our other good friends, which I
feel I have to I have to say, like, you know,
we've got Laura Larson on our release show on the seventh,
who plays in Scrunchies.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
She's amazing. Larsen is amazing, exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, Scrunchies is like we've band is amazing. That's a
whole other on that we've got in Lou. We mentioned
earlier on the podcast, Nikki Post is the lead singer.
He is a guest singing on at least one, maybe
two of our songs.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
I think, yeah, I think she's on two of your songs.
And yeah in Lou rules too.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
He's a really good friend of ours.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
You know, we've played shows within Lou before. You know,
we're all we're all trying to support each other. And
these were the bands that we when we were like yep,
release show these know, hopefully they don't have any conflicts
like we got to play you know. Yeah, So it's
a it's Laura Larson doing her solo stuff. It's in
(40:09):
lou and it's Unstable Shapes and us and yeah, like
it like what Aaron thing about Cloudland. You know, it's
a place where, it's a safe place where and it's
a great venue to play at and they always treat
us well and we love that we get to do
(40:30):
the show there.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
And I'll say this, I haven't played a show in
four weeks, four months, so I have a lot of
energy to burn. And it's yeah, like like Johnny's saying,
the city of Minneapolis is going through a lot right now.
There is a lot of there's good reasons to gather
together and be amongst your friends. So I'm I personally
(40:54):
am very excited to get to have that experience with people.
So I hope people will come out and have it
with us, yep.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
And being you know, from Minneapolis originally and spent a
lot of my you know, musical years there, Like, I'm
just grateful that I get to, you know, help facilitate
this discussion, to get it out in advance before the show,
to help kind of help that cause along too, because
it just sounds like Gas are doing really good work
in a lot of areas and with what cloud Lane's
doing as well. So all that's super dope and warms
(41:24):
my heart and I'm just super grateful that, uh yeah,
that we got to chat today. So you guys, thank
you so much for coming on and doing this. I'll uh,
I'll get this out and uh we'll get you know,
as many people to the show as we can. But
thanks again, and uh yeah, man, I just really appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Thanks Brett. We appreciate the opportunity to talk about it.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Of course, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Trust beside breakdown all right, And that wraps up another
(42:28):
episode of the b side Breakdown or I want to
thank Johnny and Andrew for coming on to talk about
the Battery Eyes song Upside Down Andrews from the band
Unstable Shapes and with guest vocals on the track. It
was great to have you both on, and you know,
everybody please go out to their show coming up. In
the background, you're hearing the song Through the Shadows by
the band Dead History.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
If you like what you hear, please go back.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
And listen to the previous episode. It's about that song,
and I chatted with David Jarnstrom from the band all
about it. I want to thank Adam Coolong and Carrie
Bosel for helping me put together the jingle you hear
the beginning and the end of this episode. Please stay
safe and staying out there. Thank you so much for
your continued support. Please subscribe to this podcast wherever you
get your podcasts, and we'll catch up on the next one.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
All right.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Thanks well
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