Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You wander the aisles of B Side Video Rentals, is
Huey Lewis reminds you that he's stuck with you, but
also happy about it. You grab your cassette of choice
and walk it up to the front, knowing you're being
judged for your sadistic taste in cinema. You sheepishly smile
at the cashier and say, it has my name on it.

(00:29):
I guess I have to watch it. She looks back
at you inquisitively and says, your name is Henry Portrait
of a serial Killer. Welcome to be Sad Video Rentals.

(01:09):
I'm Jeremy Briggs and.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm Jenny Wanger. It's good as a vacation and shot
a commercial I did.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I can't talk about it because I don't know when
it's gonna come out. I know they gotta they gotta
do all this like visual effects stuff. I got on set.
I was like, gosh, I hope they have like Jim
Henson puppets, and they didn't. It's just special effects. Its effect.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, it's just gonna be special effects herpes. Yeah, you
can have a normal life. I'm very excited. Okay, for
so many reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, at least you're enthusiastic.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, like this is like the creepiest thing to be
excited about.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
A little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, Like everything about it is wrong, but everything about
it is like relatable in a weird way. Because I've
dated so many psychopaths, I find.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
This movie, out of all the films we've watched, to
be the most relatable. Yeah, excuse me.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
What.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Casper is friends with Michael Rooker? Yes, Star, I've had
interactions with him through Casper, and then when me and
Genevieve worked at our John Photo lab, he was one
of our clients, so he would come in and we
would set up all his pictures for conventions and stuff
and nice. So we had a lot of really interesting
run ins with him. Yeah, and then like he knew

(02:43):
me out of context when he found out I was
Casper's wife, And it was an interesting thing because it's
just like, oh, you are just like this because he's
such a character.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, I mean, what do you get in this business? Yeah,
I want your characters, Yeah, with no boundaries or any
awareness to have we come up to other people. No,
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, it's a weird thing because like I'm working with
just theater people now doing a theater right type. They're
so different than us. They're just so different than us.
There's like a classiness that they have and like a
restraint that they have that I don't. So like one
of them actually like pulled me to the side and said, hey,

(03:32):
I want you to know that the things that you're
feeling that you just keep talking about, we all feel
it and we just go through. I was like, I
have to say it. I have to say how uncomfortable
things are.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I have to point it out. If I don't do that, it's.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Not real, right, Like you are just being professional and
keeping it to your soul. I would explode.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
No, not in this house.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
No. And even when you're on a set, we don't
do that, like you know what I mean, Like, in
between takes, we go to each other like something was, well,
I can't weird on'm that this guy was that weird
that he was in the eyeline and he was eating
a cracker, And I was like, can I do this
while he's eating like cracker?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
There are no rules on his set. You just talk
about anything and everything.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, And so like I'm getting used to like kind
of the the difference there and it's just I'm not
going to change.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
By the way, No, nor should you.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm in my forties. It's broken and we're not fixing it.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oops. I know you're always supposed to try to be
a better person, but fuck that.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I've justed a lot. They taught me how to do
a lot of things, and I'm done.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I'm that way with technology all like I was that
way in my early thirties, late twenties. I'm just like,
I'm not learning this.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Genevieve. Genevieve does my electronics for me? Like you before
we saw shold up in the video, like what does
this need to do?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Jai gow this right tidy or lefty? Loosey? Yeah, I'm
and then you're like, oh's loathy.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
So lucky to have her.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I have a four year old to tell me how
to do it.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah. Then they get it. They just get it.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's just weird. They're just stupid about everything else.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, they shift themselves, but they know how to turn
on the computer. Shall we get to the news.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Let's get to the news. Weuesday Steptember twenty fold in
nineteen eighty six and the so you're not so current events?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
The Senate voted on a provision allowing states to raise
the speed limit along rural stretches of the interstate to
sixty five miles per hour from the current fifty five
miles per hour, finally giving Sammy Hagar another number. He
can't drive.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Can't do it, Try try Sammy.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
According to researchers, women should be given different treatment for
alcoholism than men because women become alcoholics at a lower
level of consumption and are quicker to develop related diseases
and drink for different reasons. A representative women said, duh, duh,
whose fault is it, bitch?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
A federal task force has recommended increasing the quantity and
quality of Canadian television programs, partly by creating a new
public television channel, because nothing says quality like public television.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
We just need your donations to keep us going.

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Hey guys, we don't have anything to decorate the background
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Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, head talkie show. Right, it's not a.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Talking head show, it's a head. A White House spokesman
said today that President Reagan intends to veto a bill
imposing strict economic sanctions against South Africa. He then scratched
his jow something matter that everyone called him, Vito Coleone.
I'm gonna Vito they made they made me an offer.

(07:20):
A kind of feels unlimited back scratches for gone that
Hocomer feels.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
That Casser is the most mad man because I will
refuse to watch that. You've never seen it.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Just watched the third one. Just watch the third one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Maybe industrial solvents that escaped a flooded out chemical company
plant may have contaminated fish and other life in two
rivers and the Singinaw Bay. In a Ninja Turto spinoff
called the Juvenile Sushi Samurai of Sganhaw.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
How you pronounce it Sigina or Saginaw saga?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
How did you say it?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I would say Saganaw. But you know what, I don't know.
I just do what my parents say and they're are
they smart?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't know, And that's that's what it gets me
in the trouble that I'm in because I do as
my mom would say. The House of Representatives voted today
to make the Rose America's National flower. Afterwards, they took
four hours to vote on lunch and everybody got a
but long tomato sandwich. Important issues import issues.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
In the House of Representative, Okay, I read these or
the dangly one. Let's take a vote. A lawsuit file
today in Federal District Court said that the Army had
never properly accounted for containers lost five years ago containing
a vaccine and the infectious virus used to produce it.

(08:59):
An Army spokesperson said, we don't need to find it.
It'll find us, and he stared in the camera for
five minutes.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I've seen that movie.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
And they're like, is somebody a yell cut? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It cut the budgets on everything except the military.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
What right, let's get into that.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Perfect platform.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
A report that three house brand aspirin tablets sold by
right by a rite A drug store had been laced
with cinis proved to be false. Store officials immediately lifted
all sales restricting restrictions on the product, Which is why
I never take pills.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I smell an endorsement bill. The Justice Department has scheduled
a new interrogation of convicted Soviets by Arthur J. Walker.
His heritage came into question when he asked to use
the restroom. Interrogator said he was Russian on his way
to the potty, but European once he got there. And
that pissed him.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
The heck off wrecked the hack off. Oh you think
you're clever, eh?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
You know I Casper said that joke to a Russian
chubby suit. I'm never European. I'm always Russian. He got
so mad. He's like, do not call me European? And
it's like, oh, this is like an ongoing joke.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, do you know how many times I've been called European? No? No,
can I explain it? Can I explain it? You are
Russian peeing, You're peeing like taking a piss, You are
au peeing. He was not having it, nor should he.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Plans were a ten million shopping center on mark this
vineyard were rejected at a pack town meeting because of
fears the project might destroy the community's quaite village charm.
The town came together during work hours because daddy never
made them get a real child. Really, are we going
to serve.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Sprinzers at the town meeting? Oh my goodness, what is
the town meeting like that? I don't know what is
that town meeting? I want to go.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
The truth of the matters is I've never been to
Martha's spandyard, but everything that I've seen depictive of it
in movies and on social media. Tells me I don't
want to go. I'm not welcome there.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
The House of Representatives today voted three hundred and twenty
nine to four to strengthen the law protecting public health
and the environment from chemical pesticides. The four against the
bill immediately started splitting like Amieba's and will be in
office office until they're death at the ripe young age
of one hundred and thirty four.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, we're still dealing with those.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, they're still here. Three travelers who hitchhiked twenty seven
thousand miles from the southernmost point in South America to
Alaska claimed a world record today for what they called
the most important experience of their lives. Wait until they

(12:22):
try sex. Just kidding. It's not that good at least
not how I do it.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well. It works, kids, Yeah, kids, it works.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know what. My wife's disappointed every time.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, it may look weird, but the alcohol is really nice.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It looks really weird and it's not. It's not comfortable
for anyone.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
So you have some reviews to read, Yes, we do
have some review Yeah, Oh, jeremy, listen, there's a.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Jeremy reads review.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
So rock and roll, so cool. These are all from Letterbox.
If you if you're not on a letterbox, get on letterbox
because it helps you find our movies that we watch.
You just go, oh, what movie are we watching that?
And then it shows you, Oh it's on two b Oh,
it's on Prime. Oh it's on whatever. It's very helpful

(13:35):
to find the movies for me.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, I have a voice remote and just say Henry
to have a serial killer.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't do that. Actually I only did that this
one time. Usually did get up on letterbox. Anyways. Anyways,
Men on Film wrote a bleak and miserable eighty three
minutes five stars. Yeah frames of Nick said, why did

(14:08):
I watch this in the eighth grade? I feel like
I scarred myself three stars, three three stars. Hey we
got we got a few here? Would Oh said, I
love horror shot on sixteen millimeters. There's something about it.
It's bad quality that makes you feel like you shouldn't
be watching it. And I totally agree with that.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Four stars.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I just I was like, yeah, I have to say
that because I completely agree. You feel dirty? What just
the brain of everything is so dirty? Cat BB said,
men killing people groundbreaking two stars, and I'm only gonna
read a few little sections. This one's a long one,

(14:54):
so I'll just read a few little spots here. From
Jack Robinson Alien Face, he said, I really vibe with
this movie at all. I don't think this is a
very effective horror film and a weak portrayal of a
serial killer. There's no tension that's built up throughout the
experience because most of the kills are off screen. The
movie must have had a low budget because it looked

(15:15):
like a TV movie and the score is not thrilling
at all. It felt like a drama about an abusive,
dysfunctional family. Then it did a serial killer thriller, and
you kind of nailed it on that end part because oh,
we said one and a half stars. But he nailed
it on that last part for me, because it's not
really a horror film to me.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
No, it's not like a horror.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Film is intended to jump scare. It's or not necessarily
jump scared, but like get you on the edge of
your seat, and you know you're supposed to care about
these things happening. This movie's made to make you feel uncomfortable. Yeah,
and I totally disagree with the score. I love the
score in this movie. Yeah, I love score.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's a portrait of a serial killer. I think that
dysfunction is what creates serial killers.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Oh, I think it could be part of it. Yeah,
I think there's just something inherently wrong from the get go.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, Like the brain is bad.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's a bad brain.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
There are things we're gonna get into. But like I
definitely think, like I would have imagined the woman, the
thing she was talking about her becoming like the next Eileen, right,
you know, like when when you look into the psyche,
Like the first time I watched this, that's the direction
I thought it was going to go. Oh, they're gonna

(16:40):
fall in love and kill people together, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I mean it is. I mean, do you just want
to get into the movie and we could talk about
everything as we go along. Let's I'm gonna be honest.
I've seen this movie now four times. Yeah, and I
can't say that I necessary like it. And the reason
is it just makes me feel gross and comfortable every time,

(17:05):
which means it's doing its job. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I think that's why I like it exactly. In my twenties,
like I would watch anything that I thought was gonna
like stay with me.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, it does. Watching.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, and there's one scene in particular.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
That just okay, I'm already aware of which scene you're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, it's like, fact, this is too much, and it
kind of lands itself the guy, the guy who says, Oh,
they don't show a lot of stuff, but the ones
they show let you know, like how brutal. The other
ones were, yeah, and unhinged.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
And and and the point isn't too necessarily like you know,
in horror, a lot of times, there's build up. There's
tension in this and and that's why we're we're kind
of like living in that, we're experiencing our emotions. And
but this it's meant to just go like, no, this
is who this person is. We're going to explore the

(18:04):
psyche of it. And you know, he that person didn't
agree with whether it was a good portrayal. Even though
every everything you read about.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Like serial killers or serial killers.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Or just people who like you know, psychiatrists or whatever
who rank movies who get it right, it's always number two.
It's always in the top two. Yeah, it's never below
number two.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Because I'll even tell you this, like the most vile
person that you know thinks they're charming, yeah, and thinks
that they're relatable and you can tell by the way
my head right either. Yeah, so they they think that

(18:48):
they're like the hero, and I think that's what was
nailed with this What's wrong with You? It's like, dude, seriously,
the opening is like one of the most beautiful women
I've ever seen. Oh yeah, so it's like starting to
close up on her face and the first song, I'm like, oh,

(19:09):
I hope she's okay, I hope she's not dead yet. Yeah,
and you see him out.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Before we get fully into it. Okay, yes we should.
We should note that this is technically it's based on
the confessions of Henry le lu Lucas, who is a
known as the confession killer, who had he confessed to
over six hundred which they're like, that's malarkey, insane, Yeah,

(19:35):
it's malarkey. They're like, these are reasonable numbers he was
convicted of I believe eleven, where they're like, he definitely
be these eleven, but he conflated a whole bunch, so
he was a notorious liar, which they do go into
a little bit in the film.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
They show there's a scene that really shows that part
of him big time.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Three of our leads are based on these three people,
although I don't want to get too into the weeds
because it's more disturbing than the film is. Actually.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, there's two, there's four movies about him. There's some research,
two feature documentaries, a five part Netflix docuseries called The
Confession Killer. If true crime is your thing, it's not mine.
But if that's your thing, go for it.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Wow, you don't lie true crime.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I don't really, I don't need. I don't need to
live in that. I mean, mobster stuff I'll enjoy. But
serial killers know my thing.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, because like I was super fascinated by super serial killers. Yeah,
for a long time I was, And I just thought about,
like how many of them I probably went out with
and was rude too and left. I've gotten the same
vibes from many of the men I dated in Los Angeles. Yeah,
probably fucking kill people. Bye, I'm walking out. Well it's busy. Still.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Wait, I'm having a bunch of flat Why all those
women left?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, you have Manson Vibesma, No, you have Dahmer vibes.
Do you have like Dahmer vibes. Okay, so we opened
the film on the lady's face, we're zooming out. And
let me tell you, I was sitting with Caspar and
this was his first time seeing it, and he's like,

(21:25):
you can almost lear pussy, what in the world this
other starting it?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I'm not shining up to this.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
He gets very creeped out by that kind of stuff, like,
I mean, anybody should, but I'm like a little desensitized
to it. How much I watched that stuff? Yeah, yeah,
because it's like a that's let's see it.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Doors two.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
They leave the woman in an embarrassing state. They want
her to be embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Not only this one scene that you're talking about with
the naked woman and the ass blood all over our stomach,
but this whole scene is kind of a cut back
and forth between a dead woman and then we see
Henry a diner buy cigarettes and he's like, you got
a real nice smile, walks off. Then we cut to

(22:18):
a liquor store and old an elderly couple is just dead.
And then you over the top of that, you hear
like the scene gunshots, yeah, screaming. Then it's like, you know,
Henry driving eyeball and women like.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Are you the one?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Then we cut to a hotel with the bloody sheets
and water running in a dead.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Wola sex worker.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
With a bottle shoved into her face, and then over
the top it's just yeah, so it's very abrasive. And
then it's just him driving.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, I'm just a guy.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
And then there's a woman faced down in water as
this real artsy milk jug drifts pastor.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, and you can hear him like drowning her.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yes, So you hear all those things over the top,
and they do that a few times throughout it, so
it's like, yeah, you can say some of these things
were off screen, but you're looking at a dead body
and you're hearing it happen.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, And I have like a very strange.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Oh no, not now, I know.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
So you you know, you know I'm vegan. I'm vegan
and I have not had a problem eating. Began like
I don't miss as miss bacon. I'm like, I don't
miss anything.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I remember you eating bacon one time in mac and Cheek.
You're like breaker, Yeah, it was like, oh, I've been
deal with this now, no, I know.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I was like, that's a bad body to me. I
just ate a friend. No, but that's true. Like that's
how intense I feel about it. And I just told Catherine,
I said, the strangest thing is I had the first
time that I missed going to a diner and just
get ordering scrambled eggs and toast, watching that scene of

(24:27):
him right after he saw the dead body and then
he's in the diner, and I thought, going to late
night after you just get hammered with your friends and
then you go to a diner and you all order
breakfast to kind of sober up. Yeah, So that was
the weirdest thing for me from like not eating that
way for like over a decade, Like, yeah, I haven't

(24:47):
had eggs in so long, and I was just like, gosh,
scrambled eggs with toasts and butter.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Henry, Henry, what are you doing boy?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Anyways, that was my little confession. Henry made me hungry.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
So now we see Henry, so we kind of finally
get out of that sequence where we're going back and forth.
Henry parks outside of them all and he's scoping out
his options.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Oh, this him off because he had three pretty good options,
and he made his gamble and followed her.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yea and dry.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
He follows her home and she has this moment, how
do you not know he's following you?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Like you.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Because yeah, there was that moment where she's busy, she's
got her stunglasses and then she looks directly at him
and she's like, you fucking creep and then drives off
and it's like he's had length behind you.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
He's gating you.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Although I will say he did a great job on
that shot that they had because she's pulling in and
then he you could see him pull out to the
side to find it, to find the camera. Yeah, like
he was driving the car to find his find his line.
I was like, dude, that's awesome. You nailed.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's an actor right there finding his light. You know.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I found that very not like noticeable where it was distracting,
but I was like, oh, I know what you did.
You're finding your But.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Also like for me, like there's I was back and
forth on two things with Casper, the conversation of this,
just like a woman back then before the internet, we
always were aware of our surroundings.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh you were you remember your surroundings before the internet.
You had to when you were like sixteen fifteen years old.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, when I was a teenager. Do you know how
much men follow young girls?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And you have to know, I guess I just don't
keep track.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
No, you you like in that time, you know, like
all we did is here about missing girls all the time, like,
oh this happened, she's dead. Oh they came and took her.
She's said, like we heard these stories all the time.
So if you are out and about, like the first
thing you do when you feel somebody creeping on you
is you go to the most crowded place and you're like,
I'm not leaving this place until I feel okay.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, but the most crowded place is a slaughterhouse where
you're from.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
You're You're right, Yeah, you're right, You're right. You know,
I'd be like, get me to Walmart. I just got
to get to a Walmart and then.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I'm okay fast and once I see that greeter, I
know I'm safe.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Breathe yeah, Don's going to call the police. So yeah,
So like there was this thing of like, I I
don't believe that she wouldn't have noticed him, but Devil's advocate,
there were those people who thought it will never happen
to me.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Sure, just oblivious, so he does follow her, makes it
to her house. Her husband meets her at the car,
helps her with the groceries, and he's like a bit.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
He's sitting there rock hard, like the fucking is great,
trying to turn his steering wheel.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
You can't even do it twisting to this set. I'm
so ready, Dear mister Ruker, I apologize for talking about
your penis.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, penis. He he loves when you talk about this penis.
When I when I was hanging out with him at
a bar with Casper after a convention. We were sitting
down having like our nightcap together. Of course I'm having
ginger beer because I'm an alcoholic in recovery. But he
said to me after he found out that I like

(28:44):
Henry goes, what's your favorite part?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
We're doing it's the part where you had it to
a hard time with the steering boner.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
He said, come on, tell me about your favorite scene.
And I'm not doing this because my husband's here. I
don't want to, like, I'm trying to keep this guy
on my side.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
He doesn't need to know the deepest. I'll share most things,
but there are some dark corners.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Some things that we're just gonna keep luck that. I'm
just complimenting you on your work. Let's just leave it there.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Let's leave that there. I don't need to go into
the places you may or may not have gone to
whilst performing this.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, and he's like, well talk about it and let
me just put my hands in my pants.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I love the Stocker music. While he's following her the music.
I really enjoyed the music.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, that was good tension music.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
And so he has to drive away because he's like, nope,
I'm not getting involved. It's too risky.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, So he leaves there, but he sees a hot
babe with a guitar.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Hitchhiking hitchhiking, and you know what My favorite part of
this little section here is that he has a bumper
sticker on his car. That's the moose is loose.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I mean that bumper section. I'm like, we kept zooming
in on it, and I'm like, this is gonna mean something.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
He is the moose.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, so this is now where we need that.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yes, Becky and Otis, so we just kind of close
up on Becky and Otis comes in.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
The worst hat I've ever seen bey r Otis, both
of them, both of them ranked them. Now Otis is
an accident. Somebody chose to do that to Becky. It
is like Polly Pocket, trailer Park, polly Pocket.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I totally get the reference of Polly Pocket.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I was like, do you not have a sister?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I don't I have two brothers.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
They have two brothers.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
You.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
So Polly Pocket was a really let me tell you
to polypocket traumatizing. It's a little shelfing that you open
and it's a whole world for her, like you could
pick out, like if you wanted it to be like
a diner or a ballet or her bedroom or whatever.
And then you had your little polly pocket. I put
Polly in my mouth and my aunt said you better
stop it. You're gonna get checked on it. So I

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hid it under my tongue to scare her. Eh And
when I did that, it went don't want to I
turned blue. I was like going unconscious. They were throwing
me around and everybody was hitting my back. I am
about swallowing it, and they had to monitor me for
until a few days until last. Yeah, you don't.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Say passed, Jenny. You don't get to say past You.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Were shitting you shit from your butt, and Polly was
coming out of your Peepy's like, hey, I can't breathe.
So that's what Becky looks like, the Polly pocket that
I pooped out. I keep saying that Michael Ricker is

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an interesting person. Uh, there's there's something going on up
here with you, honey.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
At least you're in therapy.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
So good. All right, So she has a terrible haircut.
She's talking to Otis. He like, is always trying to
bang her.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well, he's very He's constantly like he picks her up,
and we don't really know who they are to each
other because the way he introduced he's like Becky and
he's like Otis, like, you're you know, your sister your siblings.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, not buying that.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
So they go back to their place, they start drinking
coffee or no, they're driving.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
And first of all, he's fifty and she's like twenty.
I'm like, she was a miracle baby if you are
a brother a sister.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
In real life, she was his niece and Henry. She
was eleven when she meant Henry. So that's why I said,
it's a little more disturbing than to move.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I forgot that that was the true elements.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, anyways, I didn't want to talk about that. I'm sorry, sorry,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Let's move on.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
He was just like, what are you gonna do for work?
I mean, but besides dance naked? What you moving on?
Henry gets home and he has a guitar for otis No,

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no hitchhiker.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Where did you get fat? I just picked it up.
I just picked it up after I killed someone.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
It killed a stupid hitch hacker. She's pretty, though.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
He is like charm like. He's like quiet and reserved
and around becky shy, very shy, very shy. Oh a girl.
It's like, and you went not and shy around those
other girls.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
No really, And.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So this is the thing where I think it's so relatable, okay,
because so many men are like this. They are a
disgusting animal, but if they see something that they like,
it's like, look, I'm so nice, I'm just what you need.
I'm just what you would like.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I failed for that so many times. They God I
didn't get murdered. I think my thighs saved me from
getting murdered a couple of times. Yeah, because I really
big fies yes, so he's got somewhere to be. They

(34:49):
want him to hang out with them, but he's got
he's got somewhere to be.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
He gotta go to work because he's I.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Gotta go do some stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah. So he goes to work as a pest controller.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
So he's going around spraying a house and then he
talks to his boss and the boss is like, it's
just not busy right now. I don't have much work.
You never know, it may pop up. It that's people
wait till the last.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Minute, hands him a wat of cash and lets him
keep the fucking poison in this spread.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
He's like, just hold on to it as a retainer.
You'll just hang on to the poison. I'll use you
when you when I need you. Just in the hell
psychopath pesticide. Yeah, and to my disappointment, I mean, I
guess it would lead. It could lead back to him.
But he decides, I'm gonna go kill somebody because I

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got this thing a pesticide.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
That lady let me in her house.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
All easy, Yeah, I'll go into this one. I just
wanted him to kill someone with pesticide. And then he
doesn't know and he does it lead. It could lead
back to him and his whole thing that he talks
about later.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Is doing it different everywhere and not yeah, not not
being able to be traced.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
So we do another thing where we see him greeting
the woman and then we just see the aftermath with
the voiceovers and.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Why is this woman's corpse watching cartoons?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, and Caso said, I see her belly moving, she's breathing.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
That was that was one who was like hard not
to kind of like I kept it going, like is
it is she breathing? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
He was watching for their bellies movement's liar, You're not dead.
You're not dead, you liar, damn liar. Oh yeah, And
he walks past some kids playing football, you know, like
he's just.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
A normal guy. He's a normal guy.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I like that. It always shows like the worst thing
ever and then him just being a dude.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, I'm just out here. And that's the point of
the film, yep, which is why when the guy was
like it's the it's a terrible horror film, I'm like,
that's not the point of it. This is the point
of it. To see his like in the world, he's
living in the world, moving around, and then he does
something completely vile, and then just is living in the

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world again.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, and so it's now, yeah, that's the whole fucking point.
So now we see Otis at his job doing asifucing
lutely nothing. Oh I opened the.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Check my Oh that's good, thank you, and takes the money.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
So then a little kid, little kid, he was a teenager, teenager,
It's like, hey, hey, you got that stuff you had
last week? He'll get up.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, and I like it. I don't I want you
to hang around practice.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
They sort out a deal and I like that. He
calls him a fucking perverse he does. So they make
a deal that he's going to meet him, meet.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Him tomorrow at the fields.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
So then at night Otis is playing the guitar horribly horribly.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Becky's gutting a fish in the sink and asking Otis
how how he met Henry and then we kind of
get a little background. They meant in prison, and then
he says something he's like, oh if she's like, how
did you met? Oh what was he in for? Did
he kill his mama? Yeah? What did he do? But

(38:34):
don't you ever tell him? Don't you ever? Yeah? He
was very just like, I swear to God if you
tell him you're Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
So then Henry comes in.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
They eat fish, Otis takes off.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
This is where they connect.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yes, Becky and Henry.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
After Otis asked her, please don't tell what does the
bitch do within the hour? Did you get your mom
within the hour?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
So the first thing, she just like starts the conversation
and she's asking about her dad and he's like, oh,
he used to drive a truck before he got his
legs cut off, hold on, and.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Then he bought him a bicycle.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, it bought him a bicycle and then.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Didn't but I never got to ride it. Oh, why you.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Didn't get to ride it? Because he sold this?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, what happened to your brother dad of a bone disorder?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
And I love I mean, there's a reason I love
this little section of their conversation. It's horrible. Yeah, there's
a very specific reason I love it. So she's basically
says like, oh, let's talk about my dad now.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
But you're sitting here like the twists and turns of
your story are just wild, And she's like, you know what,
I'm going to one up you.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
There's this one time I drop. He bought me ice
cream and I dropped it, and then he made me
eat it off the floor. And then also he raped
me a whole bunch.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, but the way that she built up to it
was so nasty. He just came home and he asked
me to take my top off to see how I
debel it.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Since he paid for everything, he had the right, That's
what he said.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I'm your daddy, I have the right. Yeah. I feed you,
I clothed you, I'm your daddy.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah. And then she's just like, I was just scared
I was going to give birth to a deformed baby.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
And that's the part that bothered me.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, that was the part. What if I get pregnant
and the baby's deformed? Yeah, and then she's like, I guess.
She says, I never would have gotten married to Leroy
if I hadn't wanted to get away from Daddy so much. Yeah.
This is why I love this conversation is because Henry

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at this point, after the whole thing, and she, you know,
there's time between her mention of Leroy and.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Your daddy didn't get along.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, are you not listening?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Told you if I could break me all the time, didn't.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Get along with your daddy. Huh.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Well, I think he thought we got along just fine.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I think your communication skills are a little off. Henry
can't read a room. Yeah, it like nothing came through.
She's admitting this whole horrific that's happened to her, like
just the worst, and he's just like they're like daddy, huh,
which tells us a lot about him. Yeah, it really does.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Is it my turn to talk?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yet nothing came through? And then she just this is
the point where she just immediately disregards Otis's Please don't
ever tell him I said anything. Do you really kill
your mama?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I think you an hour to rat your brother out.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, Massa treated you good.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
She was a whore, she brought men in and out.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Did you really kill him with a kill her with
a baseball bat? No? I stabbed her, stabbed her.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
And then here's the scene, right, it shows like his
like pathological.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah, mama was a whore.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Oh, but I also love it she made him wear
a dress and that's the takeaway, Oh she made you
wear it.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, So the whole the whole thing is like mama
was a whore. It ain't it? Ain't what she done
is how she done it. She'd make me watch and
she goes, oh that's creepy.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Oh creepy.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
She beat me and make me wear a dress and
make me watch her while she's doing it, and then
they'd laugh at me.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
She made you wear a dress.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's your takeaway, that's the part you're focusing on.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, And she's like, now, I feel like I've known
you a long time. Do you feel that?

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I guess I do. Yeah, this is like where we're
supposed to. They're holding hands well cause she's.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Like, I feel like I've known you forever. And he's like, yeah,
I killed my mama. She hit me with a whiskey
bottle and I shot her. I shot her dead.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
You just said you stabbed her.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, I guess I did.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah. So he just like spits it out. It's because
usually the person isn't alive long enough to hear him
tell the story again. It was his fourteenth birthday.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Too, he said, I didn't write that down. So then
we cut to Becky wandering the streets with some like
really cool sitcom esque music.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Oh yeah, it's in a different movie, ye different.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
She's just strolling through and it's like this a.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Girl in the fucking city.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
It's like perfect strangers, like walking through the city.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, new life.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah. And she gets a job, not as a dancer,
as a shampoo girl at a beauty parlor.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
And I was like, baby, I've taken one look at
her hair and gone, Nope, we don't need the customer
seeing you.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Uh not unless we switch this up, chop, I'll take
the thing that takes about forty five seconds to do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
So now she's working at the beauty parlor.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
They have dinner. The three of them have dinner once
again at their house, and Otis keeps talking.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
About her you like it better than dance and naked.
He just keeps he's obsessed.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
He's obsessed, and it's it's quite it's quite creepy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
And Henry's like, don't I like your hearings?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
He tries to change pretty earrings on.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
And and she admits, like, I didn't dance naked. I
mean I wore a costume. It was a small costume,
but it was I danced at a club and and
then here once again, Otis is just like, you gonna
dance for us, and she says with the Pope peas
in his hat. Otis, Yeah, I'm back, what trash? So

(45:14):
what kind of mouth is on you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
So she calls Henry a gentleman and then says, I've
got something to show you guys.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Such this is class. So she goes where I think
you find it relatable?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, She's like, I'm gonna go get the thing I
got today. So she goes and she gets a T
shirt that says I love Chicago and I love that.
Henry goes, what does it say? Okay, so she tells
them what it says, and then oh, you need to
try it on. She's liked. Well, then turn around, you

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just went in there to get it. Well, don't you
go in there and change you weirdo.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
She has to do it right next to them, and then.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Her brother's trying to peek ye gross.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And then he asks her to get a beer. Ain't
your ma, just get a beer for your brother?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Just get your brother?

Speaker 1 (46:10):
So she is fine, fine, and like Otis didn't even
have to leave his chair to get that beer. He
could have just reached this is a tiny apartment. He
could have just opened it in his chair. And so
she's like, fine, I'll get you a beer, brings him
a beer, and what is this gentleman of an Otis do?

(46:33):
He grabs her and tries to stick his tongue down
her throat?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, disgusting.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Henry is pissed, very affected by this. Yeah you know
so Henry has like no morals, but this is the
line for him. Yes, that's your sister. He grabs Otis
and it's just like, don't do that. She's your sister. Yeah,
tell her you won't do it again. Yeah, he goes,

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He goes ballistic, and there's like this.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Really awkward sit and then she's like, let you to
go out and grab a beer. Think you too need to.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Go make up? Yeah, I'll do the dishes. I'm fine
with that. And Otis is so fun hurt. I love
how but her Otis is in this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I really didn't think I would be the one pushed
Jaba this.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah, he's just kind of like, Okay, I guess you
want to do that, Otis, you want to go get
a beer? I mean, I guess I gotta go change
my shirt.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And I love that. He goes and puts on like
a Dan Flash's shirt. Je said, shiny, what this is?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
So it feels so against his character to do this shirt,
but he went for it. He's like, we're gonna go clubbing.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
It's a complicated pattern. Signage Jesus says, live bait, continuous
enter tow. We're going through. We're seeing like, yes, we're
in a CD part of town of Chicago. Yeah, so Chicago.
These two weirdos on the brow pick up a couple
of hookers.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Oh no, yeah, please, they're called street.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Walk max workers canceled.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
They take these street walkers.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yes, we're gonna explode Genevieve sex workers.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Okay, so these hookers and get in the car with
these psychopaths. Yeah. They park in an alley and get boozer.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah. And Susey's telling them, hey, listen, buddy, calm down there, Tiger,
you're getting a little rough.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I love that you called her Susie because we don't
know the other one's name. We do know Susie though,
but Henry. We kind of get a little insight on
Henry in this moment. Dude can't do sex. He it
triggers something in him where he's just like, I get horny,
I have to kill Yeah, at least that's that's kind

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of the takeaway that feels like it comes back a
little later.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
It's kind of attached to mama.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Okay, but he's mama.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Sex made him the murderer he is, I.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Think, well at least to his tall tales.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, for that live world.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah. So they he ends up strangling her and then
snaps the neck of the other and they dump the
bodies off, and Otis is like.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Otis is sitting there kind of stuff. He's like, get out,
I'm gonna drive. So he makes him get out. He
gets in, get in, they get in. They're just driving around.
It's like, listen, have you never killed somebody before?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
He's like, what's gonna happen to find the bodies? Nothing? Nothing.
He's so like, dude, have you not done this? Let's
go get burgers and fries and coffee. Yeah, Like have
you not?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Is this your first time? Are you a newbie?

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah? And he's just like, well it was it was
self defense.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Basically, he was saying it was mearor him.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, well basically he was like it was miror him.
He's like, it's always the same, it's always different. It's
always them, and like you can see Henry just working.
Otis of like yeah, trying to convince him everything's okay,
this is a good chill out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, do you want some fries?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah yeah, And then they go back to their place
and they're still talking about it. Otis is still a
little iffy and he makes him feel comfortable, and I
think Otis at this point is like, okay, yeah, I'll
just go along with.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
This, and he's like this is something I love. He's
like yeah, yeah. He goes. He comes back just with
one cracks up and just drinks it in front of him.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
And then he like hands it to him. He's like,
let's share left. Yeah, we're sharing saliva. This is us
making a deal. This is our pack drink. Yeah, drinking
from the same beer. It's symbolic, Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
It's very symbolic. It's like, we're together and this is where.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
You OUs go together.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
This is gonna end badly. Yes, these two weirdos should
not be friends.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
So then we kind of got cut away to Otis
trying to watch TV.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
No, this was the salon.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Oh did I miss it? I just ignored the salon
because it.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Was this gross, fat white lady complaining about people who
can't speak English.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah, that's what I chose to ignore it.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
This is a terrible job. And then we cme back
to otis getting pissed at the TV Snacks Nights.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Smack Smack's back is getting worse the more he heads it.
And then he puts his foot through it because.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
That's what you do.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
That's what you do. What TV's fuzzy. I gotta put
my foot in it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
So then Henry comes, He's like, what the fuck man?
We need? We need a TV? Said, I do? I
do need TV? Well, I guess we gotta go shopping.
I'm like, oh, make every montage they're going shopping together.
We're gonna get that sitcom.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I went, I would love these two want to make over.
It's just shopping just with his like teeth hair.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
I'm moted.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
But instead of doing a fun shopping montage, they go
to like some U haul storage.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Back Ali storage unit.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, this disgusting guy. Easy, they're hangling. We got fifty bucks,
can get fifty bucks? And TV? What's as big as
your face?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
This TV? This back Alley TV salesman is exactly the
back Alley's TV salesman you'd expect.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, which, I wonder what he did with his career
after this. I wonder if he does inventions. Yeah, so
what's the man? You don't trust me? Plug it in? Yeah,
you know, going on, that's black and white, we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Get I absolutely loved the part when he's like, what's
the matter. You don't trust me? Look around? What is
trustworthy about to get all this? This entire operation is
shady as well.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
We are not in radio shack.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
No, I do not trust you.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I'm gonna have to sample the product. So then they
asked him, well, what would you get for one fifty this?
And you could get this for like five or six hundred,
and it's like a.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Campy yeah yeah camquarder thing.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, oh that was pretty good. Well we will say
we only.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
This guy gets very impatient.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
You've wasted my fucking time. Why are you asking about
all this?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
And he crosses Henry.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah, he calls him idiot.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Henry was so ready to move on. Yeah, he didn't
want to kill this guy. He was not horny for
murder at this moment.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
He said, he got shit in your ears?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
And this guy crossed Henry.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Do I got shit in my ears?

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
That's he's gonna regret asking him about this here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Like, I shouldn't admit that shit in the ears is
a fetish.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Some people like it. I'm not saying I'd googled it.
So now he stabs with a swoldering iron. He stabs
the guy and then he takes the fifty dollars TV
and smashes it on his which was great.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Great, Which you think it ends there? You think the
head smash is the end of it. Yeah, No, God,
Henry doesn't do anything half assed.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
No, we gotta plug it in.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
And see, Otis got a little like excited when he
said plug it in. Yeah, we had to show us
his teeth a little more.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah. And so they take the good set with the
camp coorder.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
And immediately we cut to like playing with the camp quorder.
What you did in the eighties when you got a
cam quorder? Is you just dance?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
And Uh it's a weird scene. I don't think it's
necessarily unrealistic for the time of the novelty of a camera.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, it's it's very real. Yeah, it's it's real to
a horrible degree.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I have cassette tapes to prove it.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
But Otis is, do more? Do more? Are you kissed?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Otis is really obsessive with the camp quarder. He is
very into this cam quorder.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Enough Henry, Henry starts getting pissed, like turn the flag off,
like he's bizzed. No more Otis and Otis. It's like
Otis kind of has to know this guy is fucking
You've watched him killed a ship out of people.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
And yeah, this guy like nothing passes like I don't
know the fact that you're still friends with this guy
and he introduced you to this murder lifestyle. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, move kind of remove yourself from the situation. So
then we go from this to the parole officer.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Who definitely cares about Otis. Could not give two ships.
What's going on without it?

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Give a ship?

Speaker 1 (56:51):
How's work going good? Oh, I gotta deal with this
other guy.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
If it gets down to less than two days a week,
just let me know. Okay, all right, short mating, We'll
see you next month.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
It's like this guy don't get.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Fun, he doesn't care. He's getting paycheck.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
This is best case scenario for a criminal.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
So now the little drug quink that came to Otis
earlier is.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
By you're just gonna like pass by that you just
said that. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna acknowledge it because
that's how I speak.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
He's a drug twink.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
What else would you call him? Okay, we' all have
a describer.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Yeah, you're gonna go out to like some weird ass
big guy at a gas station for drugs. You're a
drag twink. So what I think is telling is, so
he gets the drugs and then the boy is like,
he's like, do you want to try it? Oh?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah? Like what he lies up and then he starts
trying to rub the boy's leg.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yeah, he gets on.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
You just don't give a shit out of you will
fuck your sister, you will fuck a teenage boy like
you are just so worked up.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Well, this kid nailed him, right, and excuse me, he
didn't nail.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Him, like fucking pervert exactly. But you got in the
car with this fucking pervert because you needed drug so bad,
so bad. Look, you know what, he didn't have a
card back then. You didn't. You couldn't get a card,
Like I got headaches, Like you had to like approach
the weirdest person around if you wanted pot. But so

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he punches otis in the face and runs out.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I mean I got headaches. I didn't want to get stoked.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
I don't want I mean when I supposed to do
just like go to work with a headache. No, uh,
I don't think so wonder Woman had a headache and
wonder Woman needed the tirro was tight? Okay? Uh yeah,
because I used to work on the street as wonder Woman.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
By the way, you were a street walker.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I was a street stan what I worked for tips,
but not in a weird way.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
No, I mean it was weird.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
It got very very weird. You're putting on the way
you're thinking. So I had a card, got it. I
didn't need an Otis. But Otis comes back and he
is whacking the blood and like telling Henry, I just
want to kill.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Somebody, want to kill He wants to kill this kid.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
This kid, And Henry has to talk reason. I'm like, okay,
you're gonna kill a teenage kid? Yeah, and people have
seen you together. Yeah, that's stupid. You don't do that.
And he starts kind of like giving him one oh one,
like this is how you serial kill murder?

Speaker 1 (59:36):
One oh one.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
So he's like, I want to kill somebody, and he's
like say it again like an inspirational coach. All right,
let's go, let's go hunting. You're gonna go kill some people.
And then this is.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Just like a long drive. They just drive on Whacker.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
That's what the street name is, Whacker Drive under a tunnel.
I thought that was so good. And I'm like, one
of the chances that Whacker Street is into a tunnel.
How lucky was that for these filmmakers. So they go
in and they pull into like this underpass, it's like

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an overpass like underneath, and they open it up the
car like, oh look, we're having car trouble, and Henry's
trying to wave someone down and just like the nicest
looking guy ever, but like why are you here?

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Why are you here? I do love how this little
thing here. He's like, do you do you guys need
any help? And I love when Henry just says, I
don't know, Otis, you need any help? I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
And he pulls up the kill this guy, this poor
just like he looked like he was coming from a.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Pisia good Samaritan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, bless his heart. He's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
You feel better, Otis? Yeah, I doude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Yeah, ny jib off. So now is this the part
where they're watching videos of homeless people fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, and this is again kind of him breaking down
more of why or not why, but how you get
away with all of this? Yeah, you know, don't do
the same thing, you know, break it up, do a
bunch of different things. You don't want to do the
same thing over and over. Because patterns is how cops

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will put put it together. And that's how you get caught.
And I love it because Otis is like, well, we
just used a gun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
It's a different one. Everything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
You can't use a gun, you just don't use the
same gun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
I told you guns are easy to get.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Yeah, that was a fun thing before he was like,
where'd you get a gun? He's like, nobody can get
a gun. I can make a phone call. It's easy, done, done.
I got a gun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
And I love that. While they're talking about this, he's
eating a submarine sandwich. Henry is so hungry. He is
always eating. But to keep those muscles.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, there were some scenes where he looked pretty good.
I will say good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yeah, it's like a trail of shit out us, like
the blood droppings from a deer that you shot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
So is this where we cut to the scene.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Yeah, this is the street. Yeah, it's so nice house,
and this is the scene.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
They kind of travel through and they find a nice
house because they're on the prow. We can tell they're
on the prow because the music is eerie, and then
we don't actually enter the house. This is kind of
a a cool way to deliver the atrocities. Yeah, that

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transpire because we're watching the video, the recorded recording on
a TV, and so it's grain it's even grainier than
our grainy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
So it's a home invasion scene that's very uncomfortable, which.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Home invasions always make the most uncomfortable the movie Strangers,
Like that is one of the most terrifying things to me,
Like there's nothing you can do, especially if you're like secluded,
There's nothing you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
And this is a very it's a it's a pretty brutal,
uncomfortable scene. You know, Otis has.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
You first see Otis with the woman and she's struggling
and he's open her blouse, says him. He rips open
her blouse, pulls up her bra to expose her kits,
and then like looks down at her husband.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yeah's got like a bag, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
I always had. The bag is very bloody, so he's
already like not able to help her. And this is
the worst way, like to be helpless on the floor
like that, listening to your wife being sexually assaulted. And
then what happens, but their son.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Their son walks in the door.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
He's like as a fucking kid. So Henry has to
struggle with the kid, take the kid to the ground,
kills the kid in front of me, the in front
of the mom, and she's sitting there like, okay, so
there's my husband. Beat the shit. He's gonna die, and
my kid is dead now, and this guy is just
like rubbing on my boobs like a fucking disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
He's like, Otis snaps her neck, just like how Henry
snapped the kid's neck, and then they laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Jo But then Otis starts trying to get fresh with
the dead body, and Henry gets pissed. You don't fucking
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah, you're gonna leave DNA evidence, you moron.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah, do not stop that now because I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Put it like, let's be on it in real Henry
Lee Lucas definitely, yeah, did that did that? That? That
was something he did.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
I don't know, he just picks weird moments to like
suddenly be clear, like, hey, don't do that well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Because you do have to because we all in some
way have a quote unquote moral compass. There are lines
that we all are like you can justify all these things.
He's justifying these things, but he has lines, yeah, to
give us some sort of I guess connection as a character,

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because if you don't have I think it just kind.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Of shows me he still thinks he's the good guy
in a way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Sure. Still that's the thing about I think humanity and
writing in general, like how having that them believing that
what you just said, like them having that like, no,
I have morals, Yeah, I do have them that they

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don't see where other things are not. Okay, Yeah, they
have to have something.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
To I come back into reason.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Exactly, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
So then they so they're watching this videotape and it
goes to the hair Slung where Becky gets a call
and she talked to her mom about her husband, the
guy she was with being in jailed, her husband, ex
husband whatever he is. Then she talks to her daughter
on the phone and it's like God, like I remember,
it's like when I was a kid. Like, people just
get pregnant and not meant to be moms. People just

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get pregnant. It's like, this lady should never be a mom.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
There's so many people that should not be parents. I'm
one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Oh my gosh, you work. But like you hear that.
It's that trope in the South where the grandparents raise
the kid like it's like, oh, you are not suitable
for this, and I'll just take care of it and
you live your life and we'll do the best we
can here. And it's that kind of situation. Yeah, it
sounds like the kid is kind of begging her, like, hey,
you said we would see each other. Yeah, and she's like,

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put your grandma back off.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
I love you. I'm done talking to you, a little
baby girl.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah, mommy's not going to deal with this. I'm at work.
I got heads to shampoo, okay, I got racist heads
to wash wash and and I you know, and I'm
sure the grandma's like, why don't you come back here
and be in it in our life, Like what are
you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Just come here, we'll fix it. We'll solve whatever it is.
I can take care of that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Yeah, And then it cuts back to the street day
where they're going around having camcorder fun.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Henry and otis, Yes, real, Horny's yeah, start it starts
some moving. I love the way fabric just blows in
the Wii.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
So then he hits something and he's like, why were
you hanging out the window? And then he just throws
the camp are just throwing it. I could have tried
to fix it, Oh are you a camp quarter fixer?

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Now? The only thing that I could focus on was
just like what was on that video footage?

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Yeah, somebody's gonna give it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
What You guys have found some real interesting content.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yeah, And then I love it that Otis is like,
you want to get a beer? And he's like, you're
gonna get a fucking beer?

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Lets him kicks him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Out particularly Yeah, they're in a fight. If you want
a beer so bad, I'll just go ahead and go
get one, kicks him out. He peels off and leaves
otis sitting there on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
He comes back home and sees Becky.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Becky a notice. They play cards or Becky.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
And Henry cards cards, and she says, Oh, I quit
my job, I'm gonna move and she tells him that
like Leroy is in prison for murder her husband.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
She's got on track dail.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Yeah, she has a she has a type for a
million dollars. His bail is a million dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
What the fuck did this guy do? What kind of
murder was this?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
And she's just like, please come with me when tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah, and she's like, I don't. I don't want to
bring my kid here, she'd get lost here. Let's just
go there. Can you just think about it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
And he's like, yeah, let's just go eat a steak,
I got it, credit card.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Dinner where I got me? Avisa, Lisa card.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
You think you're hanging out with I'm a I'm an
upstanding man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Where are we going to go? I don't know. We
come on, so they're going out on the date.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
We don't get their day, do we? We just come
back home with Otis passed out on the couch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
And I love that she picked up on this, that
she was playing solitaire. She says. She feels like it's
symbolic to her repeatedly monologuing at Henry and making up
her own stories about him. And he is as involved
in the conversation as he is in that car game, like, oh,
you didn't get along with your daddy, just.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Very vacant, like he obviously has this connection with her,
but it's not really there. It's a very like I
don't know, it's it's he is putting an effort there,
but it's so empty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Yeah, like this, I'm being a nice guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Yeah, I am a good guy who's taking interest in
a beautiful young lady.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Yeah, I'm the biggest step dad.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
I'm a real life person.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yes exactly. So they come back and Otis has falling
asleep watching the murder videos and in slumper. So Henry
just like turns it off, like we don't need.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
To show, don't need she doesn't, Becky doesn't need to
see this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
They return, Becky s to p Henry turns it off,
takes care of everything before she gets back, and then
they go into the curtain room.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Yes, now, your count, I hear my cat going crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
They kind of make count, but then he gets real
messed up when she starts taking her chart off.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yeah, she gets like we're gonna, we're gonna do it.
And like I said earlier when they were with the
sex workers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
H.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Oh yeah, kitty man, my cat's going crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Yeah, did you mention Peessy uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
So, just like I was mentioning at that point, it's
like he can't handle this, can handle those moments. So
she starts to try to get sexy time with him,
and you can just see him struggle, struggle because he's like,
I don't want to murder you. Yeah, this ends with you, dad,

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And I don't really want to do that, but I'm
gonna do it. I don't have up choice.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
But he was saved by the bell because the gross
brother interrupts then and he's like, I need cigarettes. Here's
the stuff about not since Superman died.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
He's so proud of that comment, and I'm just watching it, going,
what what I don't understand?

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
What do you mean here? What are you going for
with this comment?

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
And he's so proud of it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Yeah, and he leaves, so Otis gives her this disgusting look,
how about getting your poor old brother beer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Which we all know with that, we all know what,
we all know what he's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
And for me, I'm like, if every really gave a
shit at all, he would have left her alone there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah, So he leaves just to collect himself. Really, because
to be fair to Henry, to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Be fair of him, we need to be.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Very psychopathic serial killer. He was. He has to bring
himself down before he murders her to no fault of
his own.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Wow, he doesn't mean.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
It, so he has to come down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
So he goes the convenience story and he's like two
packs of cools. So the guy gives him a cigarettes.
How about those bears? He's just fuck the bears?

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Okay, okay, I was trying to be friendly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
I was connecting, but me, dude, Fine. So he goes
out and there's this amazing woman, this amazing she's an amazing,
amazing makeup. I love everything about this woman. Everything about
her is incredible. And he asked her about her dog,
and she's very condescending, very hines. Her name is Loris,

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and we gotta go by now. And he follows her
for a second and he turns around and he's like, okay,
do I murder I just need to go back home?

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Yeah? Do I murder her? Or let it go?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
So Otis is now raping the sister, and it's like
a clip between him coming home, him pumping up the stairs,
him getting to the door, and the rape. All right,
So Henry gets in. He takes a sweet time getting
back but he finally gets back and screams like he
comes at him like a fucking viking. Fuck, this is Sparta.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, he's just beating the crap out of Otis. But
Otis is not a small guy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
No, so Otis good licks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Yeah, breaks the bottle over Henry's face. He's just yeah, yeah,
like we see it all the time in movies. But
like if you really did that with really old bottom
and it broke, you hit him hard enough for it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
To break break on his face.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
You're not coming back from there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
No, so Otos hits him in this twigging berries twigging berties.
So then Becky stabs Otis and the eye, and he's
very with that, like going around like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
What the fact look to be fair to Otis. If
you get stabbed in the eye with its shard of glass,
you were going to be preoccupied.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Yeah yeah, yeah, a fragg and ship. So then Henry
stabs him the rest of the way, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
The rest of the way. He gets his chest.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Yeah, yeah, dies. I like seeing the lights go out.
So becky'shysterical, almost called the police. He's like, no, we
do not do that. I'm gonna drag this body in here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
He gets mad because she's like she's having a fit.
She's in hysterics. And Henry's like, just I have to
figure this out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
I need to like think, bitch, Yeah, let me think.
He drags owed us into another.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Room, sort son his head off, just like it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yeah. And the audio on this is great. Interesting of
the guts being cut up. Yeah, because he's cutting in
into little pieces and putting him in trash bags. First
piece is head puts his head in the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Trash bad, just working on his arm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Disgusting, he saw, he saws everything. Okay, So then they
load the suitcases into they load the stuff into the car,
right her stuff, and they put the body in the trunk.
There's a jump scared monster sound, but it didn't get me. Yeah,
you want to listen to the radio, he asks her.
It's like, I'm freaking traumatized.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
She's just trying to make it normal. He's like, this
is normal. Yeah, he's doing the same thing with her
that he did with otis this is fine.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Well, what are we gonna do now? We're gonna keep moving, Yeah,
And he tells her the fairy tale about his sister's
ranch full of horses and sending for her daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Yeah, because that's definitely real.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Oh, this is gonna be It's gonna be a great life. Yeah,
I love you Henry. Well, I guess I love you too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
I guess I love you too. Where are we gonna go, now,
super passionate.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
We'll find a place. You want to listen to the radio.
It's a girl. If you haven't figured out that he
needs that radio on, he needs that stem right now.
He needs to like regulate. It's in your best interest
to let this man regulate.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
So they get to a motel. Yeah, this is kind
of the iconic shot. I think it's on the cover
or wherever. He's just sitting at or standing at the
sink with his arms against the wall the mirror. Yeah,
it's all quiet, Beck. He's fiddling with the guitar and
she's just as good as otis. Oh yeah, I used

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to play the guitar, did you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
I bet it? Go to bed now, girl, you don't
want to go to He's trying to get him in bed,
and it's like this is going to end badly for you, honey.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
So the next day Henry shaves and then he's going
out to his car.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
By himself, by himself.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
I think, I know what happened here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Gets in the car, drives down an isolated road, pulls over,
waits for some cars to pass, opens.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
The trunk, stuff that trunk.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Pulls out a suitcase very similar to the one that
they stufft Otis in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Yeah, this is her pretty suitcase though. That was like
her luggage that she carried in the beginning. And now
she's being carried off in it and dumped and you
can see blood streaks on it. You just know what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Wait a minute, she's dead inside of it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Becky's in there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
I didn't realize.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Yeah, so it's it's the end of the biggest trope
that us women faced. I cat I can fix him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
And as he's throwing the suitcase on the side of
the road, we get a little bit of audio. It's
not a lot of audio. It's kind of very solid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Yeah, screaming. He didn't want to do it, He didn't
want to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Do it, he didn't want to do he had to. Yeah,
And that's the film. Theme music plays from the same
music from the beginning, from the title plays at the end.
It's very good music. We didn't get any onset speculation here,
and you know why because I only have one and

(01:19:59):
it's not speci. I believe that the entire crafty was
just uh, water and trisc its.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
And he said vodka, which okay, yeah, there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Was something type of alcohol.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
It was alcohol and triscts. That's all the crafty that
they had on this film. It was just kind of
a running gun. Everything about it felt running gun, but
very well done. Running gun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Yeah, oh honey, your kiddy's upset me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
He wants to go outside and that ain't happening.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Oh yeah, it's not safe for kitties outside.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
No, it's like one hundred degrees upside.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Henry's out there. Henry's out there, and that should bring
us to a movie and v.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
P the moment you've been waiting for your movie.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
I don't possibly see us having different MVPs on this.
You know, it's Ruker, it's Rooker. He's so good in it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
He's so good in it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I mean. My honorable mention is the music by Robert McNaughton,
stephen A. Jones, and Ken Hale, because I really do
think that the music is great, but Michael Worker's so fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
He's so good. Another honorable mention as director John McNaughton.
He did a great job at blending reality and perception
and fiction and hyperrealism and symbolism within the overtop murder Fest.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Yeah. So, like I said at the beginning, like I
don't love this film because I just don't like watching it.
It makes me uncomfortable and it's doing exactly what it's
set out to do. So I will say it's a
good film, it's just not one I I enjoy watching.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Do you want to do Top Five?

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Were gonna do Top five? Or remake? Reboot?

Speaker 6 (01:22:07):
Oh yeah, you remake, reboots, reimagine, remaster, sequel or prequel
or didn't they already?

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Now they shouldn't, but I can definitely see this getting
the American horror story, okay, like the way they make
it sexy and appealing, you know, like this kind of story.
But they shouldn't. For me, it's just remaster because nobody

(01:22:50):
else is going to do it the way Rooker.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Right, Yeah, and for me like they are like we
added that new thing this year or did they? And
for this, for this one, they did a sequel in
ninety six. I have not seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah, I haven't either.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
And The Arrow did put out a four K restoration
of it. I couldn't find it through them, but there
I could only get it through third party retailers. But yeah,
I would say just leave alone. You could, but I
feel like the way that they do the Henry Le

(01:23:27):
Lucas has been explored multiple ways. Yeah, I think leave
it alone. That's my opinion, So deal with my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
I like your opinion and I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
All right, now we could do top So these are
the top five suitcases to hide the body of a
loved one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
At number five, this one's more of a dog crate
than a suitcase.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Suitcase Number four carrot tops prop suitcase.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Number three for the loved one who deserves the absolute,
absolute best, the sixty one thousand dollars crocodile trolley bag
by Stefano ricci M.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
That's a good one. Number two a bedazzled ed hardy suitcase.
Nobody's looking in that thing unless they're looking for axe
body spray.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
And they're the type that will definitely touch the boobies.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Oh, they'll be touching those dead boobies.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
And at number one the bread suitcase that subtly says
your victims are tastes your toasts. And I think we
have a guess waiting to do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Let's let them in.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Let's let them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
And on this week's Nostalgia of the Week, we have
a very special guest. This is Becky's daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Oh, thank you so much for having me on your program.
You know, people are really shocked to meet me and
see that I kind of turned out normal. But that's
the beauty of grandparents raising their children's children. Even when
they're like abusive, crazy people for some reason, they just
completely turn it around for the grandchildren and they dedicate

(01:25:36):
their lives to making the grandchildren feel like they're a saint.
So it's like shocking when they hear about what their
mother or father's childhood was like. But for me, I
didn't hear anything from my mom from the day she
abandoned us and left for the city. She had big
dreams and she was going to chase them, and Grandma
picked up where she left off. She said that her

(01:25:58):
and my uncle that I also never met, we're just
living big city lives. And I wouldn't have thought anything
else about it, except for later in life. A lady
contacted me and said that her son found a VIDHS
recorder that was left on the street, and he had
spent years fixing this camcorder up and reviewing the footage,

(01:26:22):
and he was reviewing it when she saw said, hey,
that's the girl who shampooed my hair that day. And
she said she remembered her specifically because my mom reported
her for being a racist in the shampoo chair. But
she turned out to be an okay lady, like a
lot of racists do, like they don't think they're the problem.

(01:26:45):
But through this racist lady, we actually solve some murders
because not only was there like video of my mom
and my uncle dancing and my mom kissing my uncle's
weird room mate, Henry, there was like footage of murders.
So we helped the police department figure out who some

(01:27:07):
of the victims were. They were pretty prominent cases. And
now I'm Facebook friends with a lot of the families
of the victims. So we've created a great little community
out of this. So you know, I'm nostalgic for when
people used to find trash on the street and make
it a treasure. Okay, So don't be afraid of bad

(01:27:27):
bugs and stuff like that. Go out there, find something
in the trash that appeals to you and make something
great out of it. Okay, back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Okay, my cat was not okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
No, cats are sensitive to those kind of things. Do
you do you have a horoscope?

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Yes, zodiac speculations with Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
So in my opinion, I think he's a Gemini. You
think he's a Gemini, Yes, because the only thing that
made me not think it is because like I was, like,
he's probably the dumber one. But I think that he's

(01:28:38):
been smart enough in the ways where he's smart to
get away with it, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
He's been doing this for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Yeah, because Geminis usually are like they come across pretty intelligent.
But I think that his intelligence is just different because
of his start out in life. But I think he's
a Gemini, and I think he like there are those
two sides to him. And the thing I always say
about people that I think gemini is like one bad
side and one great side, or you know, like they're

(01:29:07):
two faced, but it's really just like there are just
two aspects of that person. And I think there is
that aspect of him where he's really thinking, oh, I'm
an honorable guy, and then it's like, but you do
have to kill people to get your rocks off sometimes,
and the majority of serial killers are I think Virgo, Sagittarius,
and Gemini. I think that's what it is. She can

(01:29:31):
probably there's some that are Pisces like her. Let me
just double check that because I want to be totally
clear on it, because I know Sagittarius gets a lot,
but they're the ones that are more like charming, like
the Dahmers. Yeah, cancer Pisces, Sagittarius, Scorpio are the most common.

(01:29:51):
There's a lot of Geminis too, But now that I'm
looking at that, he might be a cancer because cancers
are so mes g G. Do you think cancer or
do you think gemini bottom corner is exposed? Oh? Shits,
she just I just now read her message at my
bottom corner is chair or your camera. We usually talk

(01:30:21):
to each other about it beforehand, so I don't oh,
but I will tell you I think Becky is a Libra. Oh,
because I have never met a Libra that didn't go
it's fine and the house is burning and they're like, no,
it's fine. Becky is a Libra.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
She just said, what did I say, like my grandma
and my dad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Yeah, she thinks Henry is scorpio. Oh good, But the
only reason why is because scorpios are usually very sexual.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Oh he's not very sexual.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
And he doesn't come across sexual to me, but maybe
he was before the trauma and that's why he has
to kill because trauma with Yeah they made up trauma
with his mama. Maybe possibly, but yeah, so there's a
there's a geevo scorpio. And I'm going to say cancer

(01:31:19):
because he actually sex death. Yeah, that's that's true. His
the killings are kind of connected to sex. But because
someone that I dated was a cancer and they were
this kind of pervert and they were this kind of
like snap on a dime. I'm going to say cancer

(01:31:41):
and they get really emotional about it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Cool. One of my you you mentioned too, My daughters
are both, oh really cancer and Sagittarius.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Yeah, but you don't have to worry as much about
the girls because yeah, like look at your serial killer lists.
I mean, they're mostly men. Girls Usually we imagine killing
them and then we walk away.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
So why you drink?

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
That's why I did drink.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
It's funny, let's laugh it off.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Great episode, Okay, well, this was wonderful. This was something.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Yes, we worked through our own issues. We talked about things.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
There was an exchange that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
This was almost a therapeutic episode for you, not me.
Now I know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Yeah, we traded. I was gonna all right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
I have nothing more to say to you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
I'm gonna stop, and I'm gonna leave people alone and
I'll see We'll see you next time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
Yes, thank you for listening to our insanity.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
I'm Jenny Wayger.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
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(01:34:02):
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Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
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