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October 17, 2025 80 mins
📼”Paganini Horror”
📼 (1988, Dir.Luigi Cozzi, Starring Daria Nicolodi, Pascal Persiano, Donald Pleasence, Jasmine Maimone)
📼B-Siders:
📼Hosts: Jenny Wenger & Jeremy Briggs
📼Editor: Genevieve Marie
📼Written & Produced by: Jeremy Briggs, Jenny Wenger, & Genevieve Marie
📼 Music: Jeremy Briggs

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0:00 - Cover Art Cold Open
0:54 - INTRO Music/Credits
1:20 - Welcome 
1:47 - Talkin Teeth
5:17 “Not-So-Current Events” 
14:54  - Jeremy reads reviews
40:38 - On Set Speculation 
1:10:45 - Movie MVPs 
1:11:56 - Remake, Reboot, Reimagining, Remaster, Sequel or Prequel? 
1:13:10 - Nostalgia of the Week 
1:15:55 - TOP 5
1:17:17 - Zodiac Speculations
1:19:05 - OUTRO CREDS
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
June sixth, nineteen eighty nine. The familiar bell chimes as
you step into b Side Video Rentals. You walk around
the store and decide that today you'll let the box
do the talking, and you find artwork that blows your
balls off. A creepy house, bloody sheet music, a couple

(00:32):
with their hair blowing in the wind, A stringy haired
skeleton with one eyeball playing a violin with a blood
soaked bone. Ecn Donald pleasants who filmed De Luigi Cootzi.
It must be Hagonini horror. Welcome to be Sad Video Rentals.

(01:23):
I'm Jeremy Briggs.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
And I'm Jenny Wanger.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Jenny, We're back, We're back.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
What I have been dying to talk about this with you?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh dying?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
So I had the most like traumatic Fourth of July
weekend of my life. Oh no, so I wake up.
My face is completely swollen, out of control. I was
scheduled for a root canal on Wednesday. The infection got
really bad. I went in and they had to do
an emergency tooth extraction on that Monday. Yeah, and then

(02:02):
I call you like traumatized, this happened to me and
you said same and I'm like, bitch, you can't do
that about something so weird and random, same.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Thing, same thing, opposite side of the face, both bottom teeth,
like I think, the same tooth, just just opposites.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Like yeah, I was just like we're mirrors.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Like I was just like, this is the weirdest simulation.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Weird, it's so weird.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
What are the fucking chances about that?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
So bizarre? It's so bizarre. I like had to talk
to people for like three d days. I'm like, you
will not believe what happened.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Me too, And they were like, what are the chances
of that? I said, well, let me tell you something.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
My dentist, my orthodontist told me ten percent of people
this ever happens to and it happened to us on
the same day.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
So weird.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, my Sunday night, all the way through the morning,
I was just like I didn't get any sleep. I
was just in pain. Like I woke my wife up
because I was punching my face because it hurts so bad.
It felt better to punch my face so that I
woke her up. I'm like, sorry, she.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Really hates in there's a man.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
And then I'm just like I just had to move
to the couch and then she's she like comes out
an hour later and it's just on the phone the
entire time. She's like, Okay, you're scheduled. I'm like, before what.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
A little dimo?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, because she knows it doesn't matter how much pain I'm.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
In, You're not gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm not going to do it. See.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
And for me, I was on the phone with my
sister who works in neurology, and she goes, Genny, people.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Die from that.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And I go what And she goes, it's in your
head and the infection can go to your brain.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Like, oh, fe okay, I'll go to the er.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Did she say it's in your head?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
You?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
But we're so lucky.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's a bottom tooth because I I did see one
person who was a pro wrestler and his was his
front tooth and he was talking on his videos.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I was like, Oh, that would be way worse.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Kind of high the fact that you know we're lacking.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, but Casper saying, you know you always do those,
he'll be the characters. Maybe you should do a real
right now. I'm like, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I don't want to expose that I'm talking like this now,
just show people don't know that shape.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Anytime a waitress or a server comes and stands over me,
I'm like, oh no, I.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Talk like this now.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
My tongue is completely covering my teeth and you can't
see anything.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, don't look do at me. I'm going to stand
up to order.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, that was that was our break.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
It was our break. Welcome back, and we come back
with a fucking boom bae many horror.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Heck. Yeah, before we get into the film, you want
to get into some news.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh you know, I have just been dying to do that.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
You've been dying again in the news Tuesday, June sixth,
nineteen eighty nine. And these are your not Stobe current events.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oliver L.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
North's secretary who testified at his trial involving the Iran
Contra Contra affair. Thank you, Jeremy, you're getting me special words.
Iran Contra affair. Has told federal investigators that she used
cocaine from nineteen eighty five to nineteen eighty seven, but
she insists they used each other.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
They used each other. Also, I love how you said investigators.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Investigator, well, investigator there, Florida, you gotta really hit that gator.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Hit the gate. If it's in the word, you gotta
hit it.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Thousands of people protested the Seabrook Atomic power Plant last
weekend due to disputes over whether spinach or kill are
the true power plant. Right, they are, but too much
spinach gathers in your feet and turns into crystals.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I learned that the hard way.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Excuse me, it does.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I was like, why's my feet crunching like spinach?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
You got damn foot crystals?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
President Bush announced tonight that he would appoint a President's
Education Policy Advisory Committee to help him carry out a
national crusade for excellence in education, because his history tells
us nothing bad happens in a crusade. The children are
gonna die. The US Postal Service is under fire for

(07:00):
a new but steel day stamp that's accused of puritanism.
The engraving shows a woman whose gown has slipped low,
exposing a breast but lacking a nipple. Finally putting a
name on my particular fetish.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, we started with barbies.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, what am I gonna say? I love a no
nipple titty.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, that's the first one I rubbed. I'm like nobody's
looking and everything got better after I started rubbing that.
Nancy Reagan said today that her memoirs would deal with
the main controversies of her eight years in.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
The White House. When asked to go into more detail,
she just said no.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Just said no. The drug thing, right, yea, yeah, you
get it.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Can you tell that? I said yes?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
As distributor has agreed to discontinue sales of Chili Bang Bang,
a juice that comes in epistol shaped package from which
children drink by putting the barrel barrel in their mouth,
saying we're doing it because we've had many complaints. Yeah,
that's their loss, because guess what we just added to
our merch list.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Whoa Chili Bang Bang? A troop of thirty five New
York City firefighters will perform the musical Guys and Dolls
at the John J. College of Criminal Justice. However, they've
changed the name to Guys and CPR mannequins instead of dolls.

(08:39):
Through firefighters, I want to explain every joke for you.
I really like. A New York state law that prohibited
inmates from entering into marriage while serving life sentences has
been struck down as arbitrary and irrational by a federal judge.
The judge then kissed her grip and ran off to

(09:00):
the conjugal trailer to share a snickers and a bone.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Oh hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
The beaches at Hope's Hampstead Harbor on Long Island's north
shore were closed this weekend after a pump station and
Roslin malfunctioned, sending thousands of gallons of raw sewage spewing
into the parking lot and cascading into the water. Florida
representatives weighed in by calling them weak little pussies.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, you can't swim in poop.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, come on, mensa sum close a beach. A hospital
nurse has been charged with stealing narcotic painkillers meant for
the patients and then injecting in an effective saline solution.
And that's how Genevieve ended up being our editor day.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
So happy to have so happy. She hasn't stolen anything
from us, at at least not to make she works remote. Yeah,
for a reason, she's got an ankle brace. Alan C. Junior,
the leader of the anti litter group, has passed away

(10:10):
at the age of eighty seven. Out of respect. Cats
have begun defecating on floors? Are you anti litter? France
is banning imports of ivory to help save African elephants. However,
they seem to have overlooked the classic French staple elephant
meat baguettes.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I don't know why it's so sick.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
And that's the reason why I sent this to you
five minutes ago, so you would be like, can we
not do the elephant met joke and those where you're
not so current of then.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
You know, my.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Neighbor when I first moved to Florida, they were like, oh,
let's have you ever and get to know you over
some snacks and stuff. And I said, well, I'm a vegan,
so you don't have to do snacks for me. And
they said, oh, well, we'll try to figure out something
for a vegan. They did a turcudery board. It was
half meat and cheese, so they had like some nuts
and grapes for me. I was like, oh, okay, I'll

(11:23):
just focus.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
On this side. And then told me stories about going
on safaris, like that's.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
The first time I shot a giraffe in the neck.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
I just sit there, I'm looking at They're like, oh, okay,
why did you bring me over here to tell me this.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I think people just don't even think about that. I'm
giving them the benefit.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Of the doubts. Yeah, let me tell you a story.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Do you know about vegan life anyways?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
So we you mentioned it earlier. We watched a little
film called Paganini Horror.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
I loved it. Yeah, do you know I always I
always love the blood.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Bond movie Blood Bond, Yeah, where where you have to
like you're bonded to something because you sold your soul
or shit.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
And for those who don't know about Paganini, a little
history lesson. He was accused of selling his soul to
the devil because he was good at the violin and
he let me see if I have all this information here. Yeah,
they speculate he had Marfan syndrome, which is a genetic

(12:41):
disorder that affects connective tissue. So he was really really
tall and tall and long and long fingers and kind
of like dummy. Yeah, it looked a little unique. He
didn't like to use sheet music, so he would dance
around the stage and memorize things, which was very un usual.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
And so people are like, nope, he's he's the devil. Yeah,
and Apparently he really enjoyed the mythology being built around him,
so he's like, Okay, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's so awesome that I'm working with the devil.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Sure I look unique, therefore I must be touched by Satan.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, we we all know how history treats people like that.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
And.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, good point. I wouldn't have. His film is directed
by Luigikoti, and he he did special effects for Dario
Junto's Phenomenon. He directed Star Crash Contamination, and uh, the
most fascinating one he did to me, at least is

(13:59):
in the seventies. In the mid to late seventies, he
wanted to bring Godzilla to Italian theaters because it never
played in the theaters. So the only things he could
get the rights to is the American version called King
of Monsters. So it's a recut. It's all got American
actors spliced in. And then he decided he's gonna do

(14:20):
a recut of that movie and colorize it, and he
put in like different films. He would like cut up
other movies and put them into Godzilla.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
And I hope he used some of his lines because
his lines, these one liners are incredible.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
But that version of the film is often called Cotzilla,
as in his last name Cotzilla, which is funny to me.
But yeah, before we actually break down this movie, let's
do some reviews. Jeremy reads review. All right, so I

(15:03):
got all of these from letterbox. These are all letterbox reviews.
And here's the first one. A stumbling exercise and running
on fumes. Italian horror, the Italian horror industry. Despite rock
and some truly metal poster art, the actual film halfheartedly
saunters through the motions with little effort placed into well

(15:26):
much of anything. Really, the kills are laying, the monsters
look like a homemade Halloween costume, and even the original
music's were lazily disguised knockoffs of pre existing eighties prog
rock songs, namely Shot through the Heart by bon Jovi
and ELO's Twilight. I totally hang that poster on my wall, though.

(15:47):
First of all, First of all, I have a bone
to pick with that, because the name of the song
he's thinking of is You've Got lo you give love
a bad name, not shut through the Heart. No, okay,
And also you call bon Jovi prog rock one star rating.

(16:10):
Here's the next one. The Italians do it best, and
by it I mean produce a very very bad horror
movie half a star. This movie is awesome. Forget the
low scores, forget the Italian horror noncept descriptors. This is
Italian horror nonsense at its finest vintage. Yes it's more

(16:32):
than a bit silly, but it's the perfect camp film.
Camp is achieved when people make something not good with
full sincerity. This is a gem. Four stars and finally
the late eighties euro horror trash. I never knew I
needed four stars.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Hell yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
It's just funny to see the spectrum of how we
enjoy films.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, on a like, and that's that's been the whole thing,
like to me. Like, one of the most important filmmakers
of all time is Dario Argento. But I talked to
people and they're like, oh, I've never seen anything, and
I'm like, what, how can you like horror movies and
you've never seen anything?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Phenomena is probably my favorite of his. I love that film.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Anyways, those are that we can just go ahead and
get right into it. What do you think, Yeah, let's
get it, get it it. So we open on some
nice little wide shots, maybe on water first, but then
get some white wide shots of Italy.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'm so excited because this opening, like this spoke to you.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I love it. It's just this little girl and she's got
this bomb in it, walking walking around holding a violin case,
walking through the streets, and then goes and takes a
gondola ride.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
And I could already tell she was like gonna do
some evil bit shit.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
This little bonnet headed girly is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I was like, this girl's gonna be an evil little bit.
Somebody's about to pay.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
She goes home, practices violin while her well, mommy takes
a bath. Yeah, she like pours rose water or something,
and yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
She's having the full fantasy.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
It's mommy spa day, Yes, totally. And the little girl's
got this really ugly doll, which I guess is Paganini
because they have ugly Paganini dolls. Yeah, in this time,
in this world, and the mom says, you're going to
be a famous violinist, just like your father.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
But she was being a little fucking critical of her mom.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, the mom she's being like, do you think you're
practicing that up or whatever?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Like she was like, Okay, you're fine. You're allowed to
play now.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, exactly like you have to put in your work. Okay.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I'm like, oh, look at this, bitch. You do not
want You're in a tub, bitch, did.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
You just justify murder? Which is funny because she takes
a little doll and is dipping the doll's hair in
mommy's bathwater, and I'm like, that's, first of all, that's
a gross that's probably real dirty.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, that's an old ass doll.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
And then she's then she decides to blow dry its
hair over the bath and Mommy doesn't think anything of it.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
No, she's basically she's on a few zannies.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Mommy's on the Zanni. Yeah, and the inevitable happens.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh yeah, she fries.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
She fried, Mommy, Mommy fries.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
And electrocution is so good.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I love eighties electrocution.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, it's just in front of them.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, and then we kick into the film. This is
you know, where we get the first taste of we're
following a band.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, the recording studios in.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
A song called Stay the Night. And this is the
one that everyone keeps mentioning, the bon Jovi song.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
And I liked it.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I liked it a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I was like, I love this song.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
There were so many people on the letter box that
were just like the music sucks, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Like, what what were you listening to?

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I love going under those things after I watch it,
because I'm like, man, I loved this, and then all
of the hate, I'm like, yeah, I do. I live
in a different world.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Maybe, Yeah, that's literally.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
I was sitting here like I feel like I have
good taste, Like I feel like I love things that
fucking rock, like these women are shredding shred I love it.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'll mention something later during the scene right after this song,
but yeah, the whole thing and the drummer, the guy.
So it's three girls, uh, one of the lead singer
of the bass player and the guitar player, and then
there's a guy on drums.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
And I was like, you should be that stoked and
energetic with these babes.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, right, First you're in this band. The guitar player
and the bass player are dare I say, smoking.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Smoking hot, smoking hot, and so fashionable.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
And then we get these cutaways and there we see Lavinya,
who is their producer. She's sitting there talking to the
sound mixer and she's just hating it. Yeah, what the
hell is this music? I hate it?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
And probably her problem isn't that the camera guy just
keeps zooming in on everybody's crotch and butthole.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's not the problem.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Can we get four more shots of that? Is what
I kept asking.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, can we get a tighter lens?

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I need I need to see the seams. Yeah. So
then she just stops them and it's like I've heard enough.
Get in here. And this is when she brings Kate in.
Kate is the lead singer.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, the least hot one.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
And I feel bad for her because it's like it's
not that she's ugly, it's just like, you're here for your.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Voice, right, And what we will learn her acting chops,
her prowess, Yeah, and how she knows how to deliver
a line.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
That is just wild, a wild line.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
She will commit to that terrible line no matter what.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
And you know, like I always say, like you can
tell a lot of people are uncomfortable with a line
by watching their eyebrows. Okay, and her eyebrows did not
give it away. She kept she held her eyebrows because
sometimes when I'm saying a really weird line, I like,
do a lot of eyebrows stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
You're trying to really present that work, sell this.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Shit saying it. She's so stoic in her delivery.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
And Kate, she she runs in, She's like, I know
what the problem. I know it's the violin. But the
violin is important to the sound. I want to point
out there is no violin in this song. No, but
they do have a violin on set, like in the back.
It's just placed there.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
But she's like, we should do that if there.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Was violin, the volume was all the way down violent.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah. So now we're at a port after this.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
But we did before we do that that. He's like
yelling at her, and then we get this like kind
of zoom in shot on the drummer. Oh, the drummer
has a nice he's got a plan, a bruin. Yeah,
in that sexy noggin of his.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
He takes us to the port where there are barges
and other ships.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
And who do we meet there? None other than Donald Pleasants. Yeah,
it's always pleasant to see Donald Pleasance.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, he's kind of like he's like he's kind of
like Satan's Hinchman.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Well, we don't know that yet until he tells us
the combination of the briefcase. Least.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, he's got this briefcase and our drummer, who I
don't Daniel, Daniel.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
He gives him all this money and he gives him
the brief briefcase, and he's.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Trying to understood why people do this in duffel bags?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
What hold it like money?

Speaker 2 (25:01):
In double back.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Like they're they're like cloth, Like why wouldn't you get
like something more durable to hold a bunch of money?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Area a gun safe with you? So he's still in
the he's telling Daniel how to open the briefcase and
he goes the combination is six six six. Yeah, he's
so good, and I'm like, I need to change all

(25:33):
of my passwords. Yeah, oh boy. And then so that
cuts away and he's Donald Pleasant's character is just like
as he walks off with the thing, immediately cut into
him playing the piano like a wizard.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Wax sealed sheet music.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Oh yes, it's wax sealed. He has to break it open.
It's original punchment.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
He's like totally coming for this arrangement. I love it.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I was like, he plays with all these hot girls
and what does it for him.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
He is breaking wait on parchment.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, so he plays it for the girls and they're
just like.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, oh, they're so like. Lavini is like, Okay, we
can definitely make something into this. And I love all
of the exposition on this, this whole scene here. We
can turn this into uh whatever, a piece for Kate.
Yes we can. Wait. Oh, you said it's Paganini, so

(26:49):
we can't use it because everybody knows Paganini.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Hold on, wait, this has never been used.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's never been used. Why has it never been used? Why? Hmmm?
Because they used it for Satanic rituals. But we're gonna
use it.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, And they discussed Michael Jackson's.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Thriller they do.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, we'll hire Mark Singer, the director, the King of
King of Horror.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
This is the best exposition. We can shoot our video
clip here. And this is they always call a music
video of video clip is delightful.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Times it's a different translation, like this is an Italian
they say it different, and then they just translated it
and it did not work.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
So they're they're kind of bouncing ideas back and forth
and they're like, yes, I know where we could do it.
We could do it in this old house where all
famous composers used to live in the eighteenth century. Yes,
I know the person who owns that house.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
What, she's a reasonable she's a reasonable woman.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I think she says she's a reasonable woman. I think I.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Think, like, what a weird way to describe somebody.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
But like, let me, Oh, I've got this brilliant idea.
We could shoot it at this place, this random place
with all this history. No way I know that person.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, what are the chances?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh, what are the chances that our teeth fell out
at the same time?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I was like, I've been hitting the lottery lately.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Then we hit lear. We cut into what seems like
a dream sequence. We're not really sure it takes as
a beat.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
It's a lot of blue.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Kate sleeping with like thirty candles around her. Yeah, Like
you don't go to sleep with candles, like, girl, don't
leave no candles.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah. And she's had a bridal dress too, like she's
getting married and.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
She has to go like who put me in this dress? What?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:08):
And another one of the many curtain rooms we see throughout.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
The set design is just this house with thousands of
bed sheets draped everywhere.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh, we need to design this. Oh, here's still the curtains.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Again I have experienced it was like the sound person
was like, oh I know how to do that. Yeah,
I need to hire somebody else. What you owe me?
And then half of.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
That, yeah, I can't reach to throw the curtain.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
And then there's a shadow violinist.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yes, hearing things, And so she's wandering the house the
mysterious music is it Paganini?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Okay, come to me.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
And this goes on for like five minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, it's a long sequence. The script was probably like
eighty pages, and they're like, well.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
We gotta like, well, we gotta stretch this one out.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
We've all been there.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
We gotta stretch this out like our our set design budget.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, you know, you do what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
You do what you gotta do. And so she heads
into a room that's completely empty except for another fifty
candles that are unattended. Come on, that gave me anxiety.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, I know. I'm just like, this is a mess
because back then when.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
All these sheets are gonna go.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Up and you can see that it's dusty as fuck,
like something's gonna catch Like you're in trouble.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, you know, you know their hair is just like
it has so much hair spraying so much.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's a lot of awquanet place.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
He's gonna go up, that's gonna go.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
But she approaches this room. There's a casket in the room,
and she approaches the casket.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
And I scream laughed when he bursts out of the
casket and this weird skull, crazy hair mask with like
a fucking top hat.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
It gets I can handle.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Before she sees this, like they say a dozen times
a parchment, which is a signed deal of Paganini and
the Devil, And she's like, huh. And that's when he
pops out. That's my paper stabbing. Tummy's stabbing going on. Yeah,

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And then this is when we realize what's happening. It
pulls back and we realized this is their music video.
It's the beginning of this music video that they're gonna film.
The director.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
They're discusting how Paganini killed us.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Why, But he's just like, that's it, that's great. Hit
her harder.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It's like, this is the king of horror.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, he's just got a camera, he's alone alone, photographer.
Just yeah, yeah, stabber get her in the.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Billy hard Yeah, he's so weird.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I love how they later just constantly refer to him
as a genius.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, he's like, I killed a genius. Instill his camera
just showed up.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Then we cut back and we meet Sylvia and she's
talking to Lavinia, the producer. Sylvia owns the house and
she starts explaining this is allegedly the spot where Paganini
signed his deal with the Devil and killed his wife. Yeah,
and you're like, wait, I thought this was just a
house that old composers I know.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
And she's just the grossest thing. He played out of
the strings of her guts.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, he took her intestines and made them his strings.
The becks. This violin had quite a unique sound. All right, ladies,
get ready for filming your music video. Go to the
makeup trailers.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Call them girls too, which is g and me. Both
of them like these are women, bitch, And for.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Me, I was like, yeah, I would say the same
thing girls. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
And then we see David was the mask man, and yes,
Selvia's complimenting the director. That's my job as a soundmaker,
one of your favorites to scare people.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
And this part is really funny because Lavinia when he says,
this is that's my job to scare people. It goes
into Lavina and the camera work on this part. She says,
and it's my job to pay, pay and pay, And
when it's doing it, she has this weird, creepy smile

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that doesn't make sense the context of what's happening, and
it like slowly pushes in on her and it's like
what because she constantly mentions how much money she's wasting
on these women, and.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
She at this point she's just like, Okay, whatever, just
I'll say it.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Just zoom in whatever. Hi, I'm doing it. I'm doing
the thing you want. You want it great, And.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Then we have a wonderful, wonderfully odd scene with Donald Pleasant.
He's on a gondola ride and he's hugging the bag
of money and he's like petting it. He's totally just
petting it as he got He's like, yes.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
First bag of money. I feel like you've had a
bag of money before.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
You seem like a guy who totes around bags of money. Yeah,
duffelds of dollars.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Demons.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah. So he goes up to the top of the
roof of a cathedral and he starts throwing the money,
and he's gone demons, little demons. So from what I understand,
which is what he kind of says in a voiceover,
is like all of these little dollar bills are little
demons that are going to turn into Paganini's demons or

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or something. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I was like, it feels like your spell is like
not that great if you have to like get the
money and then throw it away to get the spell
to work.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Well, it's like it's the intention. It's the selling your soul,
and the selling of his soul turns into demon problems.
I don't know, it's it's a it's a it's a concept. Yeah,
but I did.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Love the shot and.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Sitting down there and there's just like money raining down
on you.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
And you're like all sad and you grabbing it and
says like this, it's a demon. This movie money chat,
I got my hope shove and everything you O'donald Pleasures.
It's not so pleasant.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, the first time you get movie money, though, you
like it. It's like I like this, and then you're like
this is stupid. I could just get this on eBay.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Like stupid. So then we cut away from that and
we are now in the video clip.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Video clip, Yeah, I like the mannequins with the tool
draped over them.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah. We start with this like mask and the red cape,
like dancing this man mask with like a goatee or whatever.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
And then it's like a devil. It's like whenever you
would see.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
The devil, like in human form, that's what I used
to see in like it as a kid, a.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Lady body with a demon face. Because she opens it
up and you're like, first of all, this this sexy
pink spandex outfit.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Oh so good. It's like, I love it. It's my
favorite outfit.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
It's the best outfit.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, it's my favorite outfit.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
And then you get a real nice close up on her.
But yeah, we d I mean it's really just like
a round pink it's so close that you're like, what
am I looking at? Oh, it's her, it's good. Yeah,
we're so close. I can't make out the details.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
And what I loved about this dick shot is we
we revealed in Kate, the lead singer, with like this
weird braid and it keeps hitting her in the face.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
But she's playing it off, not hitting her in the face.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
And I love it because the girls are playing. The girls.
I just said it, you said it.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
We're women, they're hot.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
What have I done? I shouldn't be online? And your
wife and so they're playing, but there's nobody on the drums.
Their drums are playing, but there's nobody behind the drums.
And the first time I noticed, I was like, wait,
why isn't he behind the drums? And then they pant.
The camera pans and you see him holding a fog
machine like on the fog guy, Like you couldn't hire

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another person.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, and again it's just really close shots of asses
and pussies, just over and over again.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh, I think we got to shry. It's like, literally you.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Could just repeat over and over again the shots you
have if that's the whole video.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
No, you can't. We need am moving in different ways.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, we need new pussy.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Shots, we need different angles. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
But then I love how abrupt it is. Cut That's
enough for me. Oh they're not.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Like this song is like two thirds of the way done,
and they've got all of these mannequins. They've got a
bunch of mannequins with just like silk fabric over the
top of him. That's the music video. I have to
point that out because when they go to the all right,
ladies go to a makeup trailer.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
This is yeah, but this is where he's just a
horrible thing. And I just wrote, puke. You're very very
very great girls.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Oh yes, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Would have to leave immediately if someone said that to me.
It's like, I can never see you again.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Here's the thing. He's a genius. So we put up
with it. That's fade, it's fine, it's society, get over it.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
But he says he doesn't think he get finished today,
and I love the Lavinia says you have to and
she's like, I A'm gonna have to pay the rent again?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
And then I, oh you know what, No, we'll make
you pay only half the rent.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
The rent Like what have you ever heard anyone say
it that way?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's like it's.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
There they're renting an apartment or an airbeat Like, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
What would you say rental fee? Feet you still are
renting it.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
It sounds like the way that we say, oh, I
got to pay my rent this month.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Right, right? So the ladies at this point go up
to the makeup room, which is just a dirty room.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, just talking about what a genius Mark is shutting
out of.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
This is my onset speculation on set speculation. This entire
scene was improvised. Am I wrong? This entire scene was
just a director going like, well, we need something that
you guys need to change. This was like put in

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after the fact because they realized that Kate took her
jacket off. Yeah, They're like, why didn't you have your
jacket in that scene? We have to justify it. Let's
go film something. And because like the only dialogue is
just like okay, just talk about I don't know how
genius Mark is go.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, and I really also love that their outfits are
all leotards.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Was just ship on top of them.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
So they reveal, oh, I'll take this off, and that's
just I'm just in a leotard and you're in a letar,
Like everything's just like aerobics outfits.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Because like it doesn't it doesn't feel like any I
guess there is a point in this scene because it
is it does get Rita away from the pack. Yeah,
so it does do that, but like in the weirdest way.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, it's like you you have spent all this time
doing like weird uh information dumps and then you go
in here and say absolutely fucking nothing.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
There's a there's a line that there.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Exposition lines are just horrible.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
That Eleena says, who's the one in the pink spandex
She she says a line where she's like, I love
how he used the dummies, had us move around the dummies.
And then Kate's like, I told you he's a genius.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Girl, like, you are so impressed by nothing, girl?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
And so they decide, well, we better get back down there,
and uh, Rita is like, well, tell Levinnia not to worry.
I'll be down in a minute. Telling Levinnian not to
worries like telling a fish not to swim.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Oh good.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
So they go downstairs and they're just gossiping. They're just gossiping.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Girls, gossiping girls, and.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Rita, the hottest one, is doing her makeup in the mirror.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Have that a little bit of alone time?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah? Get away because she's not doing anything important, she
just needed to get away from everyone's bad energy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
So then a mast freight comes in and she's like, oh, hey, Daniel,
how come you came back up?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Ain't Daniel bitch?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
And then he just he has a violin and a
knife shoots out of it like a wiener.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
What a great stupid weapon a knife violin?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah? Yeah, and I love she doesn't even try to
get away a knife. You just go, oh no.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
She does this thing where she's like stop, no, wait,
and then she just closes her eyes and just stays
there waiting.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
And the way he cuts into her skin is like
cutting cake. It look like is it is it her?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Is it cake? And we're gonna get Mikey day again,
get him in, get Mikey in. So they cut her
up and now the hottest one's dead. That really pissed
me off. I was very upset.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I'm like I needed to see more of her in
this moment. I felt like I wasn't going to.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
You were, but you felt betrayed in this moment.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
And then in another room, Daniel, don't you recognize me?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Well, before we even get there, before we get to
read it, we have this whole scene of them going
like we don't know where she at, we can't find Rita.
Oh well, I guess Daniel has to dress up play Rita. Yeah,
and he's like, what, like, I'm just gonna wear a
wig and.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Lips you know, I can't.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Do that unsigned to another label.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
But what what is going on?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
But wearing a mask is fine, but I can't wear
lipstick because I'm on another label.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
It's like you were playing drums in the original video.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
What's happening now?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
You can't do this? It's weird. And then they say
they're going to do mannequin orchestra right.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Because they're like, you just she said it Manniquin's like
they didn't have thirty Mannikins ten minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
You've already been using those.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, that's the entirety of the video clip.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah. So then now we see hot readay again.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
We do Daniel walks off in a huff, and I.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Have to get ready to see her again.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
It's very unexpected. She is in a white.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
A gorgeous white calftain, like a lace caftain. Oh my god,
it's so hot, and her hair is.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Like wet, but like not too wet, but like just
the right.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Amount of wet. Yeah, And she's like and he's like, Rita,
why are you dressed like that? I'm like, bitch, don't
talk to her that way.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Excuse me, but she could be dressed.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
However, the fact she wants okay, and she wonders down
the hall and he follows her as anyone would.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Do, you would have to.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
And I love that. Jes say it was bisexual lighting.
Maybe he laughed so much.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Because the different tones of the room are like the
colors of the bisexual flag. And I'm sure they didn't
do that on purpose, but it was so good.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
And he interests and just sees an hour glass.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yes, he's trying to follow her. She's gone. There's a
not only an hour glass, but it's like three feet tall.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
He then gets attacked by a shadowy figure.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
A shadowy figure. Yeah, yeah, we don't really know. This
is an off dude, Yeah, this is an off screen kill.
We just yeah, kind of go okay, and.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Now where we get a shot at the mansion? Day
for night?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
I guess, yes for night. I actually recently watched a
French film called Two Orphan Vampires that did the exact
same thing, but they justified it really well. Yeah, because
the vampires could only see at night and they only
saw it in blue. And I'm like, you did that
just so you could shoot day for night, but you

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justified it, so I don't care.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I'm fine with it. And they're screaming for Rita.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Bit.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
You ain't gonna get an answer, especially out there.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
But at least because at first I was like, why
does nobody care that Rita's gone? Like like, she's gone,
What do we do? I don't know, look for her?

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, you know her, you work with her, she's part
of your band.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
I'm assuming a friendship must go on. And so at
least this point, I was like, oh, no, they are
not going to actually look for Daniel in a way
that they didn't look for Rita, because Daniel Daniel Rita.
And I was like, oh, thank god, thank god, thank god.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
He's so predictable?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Is he is? He?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
He's been doing some really wild shit. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
He brought devil music into your house in your band.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
And I love this. Sylvia calls them back in, but
they say.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
One more yell Okay. Then they yell for them one
more time and then go back in, and.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Then they kind of go into, uh another room. Did
they see her screaming? At this point, Sylvia brings oh,
Sylvia brings them in. Sylvia is like, you guys got
to check this out.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
They're kind of going down a hall and all you
can hear is the clumping of their footsteps.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, and I think.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
About all those times on set where they're putting that
foam stuff on the bottoms of my shoes.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
But I hated it.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Ruined every pair of shoes they ever did it too.
But I was just like, could we have like tried?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
They have not giveing fuck.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
So she brings them to this thing. Is this where
they do the line about a strange light.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
It's more than strange, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I even know that strange and weird had like a
different level.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah, that's the same thing. That's fine. And then they
go into the math equation room.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yes, and there's like ash on the floor in the
shape of a human and.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
It's Daniel's ring is in the ash.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, there's no way that could happen, even if the
devil himself came out of the floor. And what happens.
The floor opens up.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
It's a sinkhole.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Sucks.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I love that the person is Oh, Daniel's playing a
choke on us. It's like, hell, bitch like, but oh,
the floor is falling apart. This place must be rotten.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Help her, like she falls down and Lavinia and quick
she falls down. Yeah, and Lavinia and Elena back up
and they're like help her. Mark.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, marking doing ship.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
He's like home home on the Master of Horror.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, I don't do that ship. No.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
So he goes down, puts his hand down there, and.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
I interrupted you no, no, no, go ahead, because what
you're saying is before.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
He puts his hand down there and there's this green
light that comes out, he gets electrocuted. Yeah, he's like, oh,
hell is going loose.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
But I love how quickly like Lavinia is like, that's
my product down there.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
I got to figure out how to get her out
of this ship.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
But he well that that happens right after this little
scene here. So he gets electrocuted, and Elena is like panicked.
He's like, we have to help Mark.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
There's not a single thing we can do for Kate.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, we have to help Mark. Yes, screw We're got
to help him. So she grabs Mark. It just takes
him to the car and they run off in the car.
And they drive off in the car and then all
of a sudden, there's like the electrocution, the blue light
invisible invisible force invisible wall or a force invisible car

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just explodes. Marc is dead.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Marcus Fried. Yeah, she jumps that they got microwaved too much.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
So they're like, oh, what happened? I don't know, an
invisible wall and then there's screaming from inside.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Levini and Sylvia there coming running out yep. Yeah, so
now they're assessing the damage.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
And then that is that when there's more screaming coming in.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
They then they hear Kate. Yeah, they hear Kate. So
they're going back. They're back in the hall again.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
There's a lot of this, just like back and forth.
They're like, what is the point of us like going
We can't just like stay in one spot. We have
to just keep returning to that spot. Yep.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
So they're looking for Kate in the glowing sinkhole. And
what I've wrote here is like these bitches love splitting up.
Oh love it, Like that is the last damn thing
that I would be doing. When people's disappearing splitting up,
It's like, no, we all fucking stay in eyeshot of
each other. You got better chances of a numbers. Yeah,
this house has always had the reputation.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Of being haunted. Sylvia says, okay, and Lebnia She's.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Like, I'm going I'm gone down there. This is what
you were talking about.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, it's amazing. Like how she just like, Okay, I'm
gonna go in there. I'm like literally for no one.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Well, like you said, it's her product. Yeah, she she
put all she has invested so much in these Yeah,
women like nope, I've invested too much. I have to
do this.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Stay here, no, no, bitch, I'll be all right. And
she just calls Sue and I love that she got
it a still skinhole maybe Yeah, So she goes in
to the hole, Kate Kate, and she's yelling and going through,
and then Christy and Sylvia hear a screen.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Upstairs, so they gotta go check that out.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Well, what do you call?

Speaker 7 (53:12):
I got?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I have Eleena written down here for you. You ever named Christy?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I had Christy and Sylvia that's what I had, and see, I.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Don't know, I thought it was Elena. Anyways, Sylvia decides
you stay here, I go upstairs. Yeah, and yeah, Pink
Spanex is like, I'm staying downstairs. You go upstairs and
Pink Spandex.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, she's got like the weird shit growing weird?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
What is this on my arm?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I guess we'll find out soon.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, sorry girl.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
And so when Sylvia goes upstairs, she doesn't really see anything.
She looks out the window.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
It's Eleena on IODB. There was like a weird dubbing issue.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Okay, she just said, okay, so what does she see
out the window? But Daniel doing this like.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, come on, he's inviting.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, he was very inviting. Yeah, and so she runs
after him, but he's gone, and then we hear some moaning. Yeah,
and it's Kate chilling in an empty pool. It's not
pretty empty.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
By the way, it's so gross, like you're filling an
independent film. They tell you have to get in there
and lay down, Like you put me in a motherfucking sinkhole.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
You put me in this dirty ass swimming pool. Ugh, Sylvia,
this house is haunted. Yeah, no fucking ship genius.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
But she like wakes upone's like who are you?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:54):
This is my house.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yeah, I've been here the whole time, Like hello, this
is the room I started in.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Oh, yes, so Lavinia comes, Vina comes back. Yeah, it
gets to the end of it, pulls out glow.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Yeah, this room I started. And so she's going in
circles up there. She runs around screaming for Sylvia. Yeah,
and then we're back.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
In the math equation room, right.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
That's where she pops back out of and uh then
they do find each other.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Wait, Kate, Yeah, Kate and Lavinia arrive and they all hug.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah. And then at this point they're like kind of
freaked out of like, where is she? Where is she?

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Something rattening in this house, something monstrous. Time and space
have their own rules.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
There's some insane times and uh so they realized that
Elena is gone, but why it's impossible she has to
be here? What happened to her? So they go out
and I love the scene where they're kind of freaking
out about where she is, and then Kate just screams

(56:09):
like bloody murder because she sees good.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Oh yeah, it's so random when she screams from that,
it's like after everything that's.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Happened, seen a little bit of dirty stairs, like.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Sher rd screaming. It's just And what it looks like
is they follow this trail. It looks like they just
grabbed a bunch of like kids finger paints. Yeah, just
like dumping it out.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
And then they're gonna make it run to the baking room,
heavy breathing in there, A very hideous Elena jumps out
at them, looking like ketchup and mustard monster, Ketchup and mustard.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Toad is what I'm like. Anytime you can say.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Told girl, yes and no one wants to touch her,
and I don't blame them.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Disgusting, she's groady and she ends up dying and they're
all like, what is this? How could this? How did
this happen so fast? Nothing could do that? And Lavinia, oh.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Lavinia talks about the eighteenth century fungus she saw on
a TV documentary special.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
And so they were like, yes, that's it. And they
talk about how that there's this wood that they used
to make strata various special special wood they used for
violins that had.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Different Yeah, it's some terrible curses out to kill us
one by one.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
As is Lavinia.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
She's so knowledgeable about wood fungus. Lavinia and Kate decide
Paganini and the Devil and shit are involved.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Okay, yeah, they just decide this.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
They decided, and we have to fight the monster with
his own tools.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
You don't think he sold his salt to the devil
to you?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
So I think they're realizing they need to play this
music on the violin.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
And also we didn't point this out when they played
this song, the new song, which was pretty rocking when
they were doing the music video, it didn't sound anything
like the piano. It was a completely different, completely different song.
But we're supposed to buy that these are the inspired
by this piano music.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Okay, it's something like a mathematical problem.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
She gives this insane justification. I can't even go into
it because there's all of music.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
In metaphysical music theory, astronomy.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
And there's a belief that our whole society was built
on the mathematics of music. You're talking about.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
It's very Devil went down to Georgia. Yeah, it seems
like the planet is going to be They have to
like outplay the Devil.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Yes, they have to play the music in order to
send them back. And here I'm going to place another
on set speculation, if I may, not a single person
knows how to play music instruments. Not only that, not
only that, they definitely did not have music for the

(59:18):
actors on set. There was no inspiration, there was no
it was just pretend just play the violin. And so
she has to do this thing. And the matching up
of her playing the violin to the actual violin music
being played is so insanely off, like her bow movements
and the music it's playing is like, that's crazy insane. Yeah,

(59:43):
and it happened with every musical performance there.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Just no one did any research about it at all.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Not only did they not do research, it was like
you had no music track to go on. No, all
the music was given to you after and.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
It's like they finally they're playing this music that they've
played at least three times.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
She's got to have the sheet music. Mm hmm any reads.
I just had to point that out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yeah, and now let's see what happens. Nothing's happened.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
They go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Nothing's happened. Things are just the same as before.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Well, what do we need to do. We need to
go check and see if the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Take a look and see if the invisible barrier is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Just take a look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
You see anything invisible with your eyes. So they walk
into the darkness and now we're out in the night again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
It's blue, yes, yes, rising she checks it's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
But you can hear birds chirp and dogs barking. This
is a very like live place that they're filming that
they're trying to pretend like they're so secluded. They have
the same conversation they had, but now in the blue
light they just repeat it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah, yeah, did.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
We get that. We'll fix it in post, will you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
So they're gonna they're gonna go walk over the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Car and if it's gone, we're all free. Okay, we're
gonna check this invisible invisible barrier. So Kate Lavinia get
zapped and Sylvia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Pulls them back. Why why way? So we go back
into the foyer after this, and the women have an argument.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yes, this is my favorite bit of acting in the
entire film. Yeah, because just the way that Kate is
it's so it's this weird monologue that she has where
she's like, what am I doing wrong? What's the problem?
I know it's in the music. Am I playing it wrong?

(01:01:52):
Of course? How could I be so stupid? You have
to play it backwards exactly, That's what I'm talking about.
And she like grabbed and he said, don't you care me, Lavinia.
The only way to get Paganini and is fucking music
out of here? Yes, I need it out of this
fucking Nike maarish place.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Oh my god, she's brilliant. She did it. She finally
did it. She showed us her audition scene.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
This is what this is the thing that book. She
just gave everything we had. She had to this like
weird dialogue and she's like.

Speaker 7 (01:02:34):
In it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
So so she goes to play the music backwards and
then bursts into flames.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Also like you're such a great musician, you can sight
read back backwards.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Yeah you yeah, believing it, believing it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
It burns Levinia's hand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Yeah, flames, right, it goes up in flames. Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
You are so right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Okay, And I just want to point that out right now. Yeah,
because there's something in about two minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah, Lavinia gets crushed by the forest filled.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Yes, this is a great death.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Hand to mind to death.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Legit gets to my death's great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
And her blood splatters everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
She gets smashed, my favorite death of the whole thing
for chands down. So Sylvia gets back to the corner
by the bastards violin and the knife.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
They haven't used the word bastard in this film, but
they really wait, but at this point they're like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
He's the bastard.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Can we get thirty bastards in here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah, we need to just get this out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Paganini finally breaks out his violin knife again. Yeah, don't move, bastard.
I like how Sylvia is like, don't move, stop moving,
don't move. It's like, is that how you're gonna stop
a killer? Just stay their best.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
It's like this weird knife violin thing does something to women.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Bastard.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yeah, they can't just like run away, so they we're
back to day for night blue VI.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Oh, go ahead, continue that zoom from boarded up window,
assuming the window to the room.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
The women are the are in. I guess that's what
this shot is, right, they're boarded up in there. The
sky they show that it's a full moon. And now
we're on a hot set dance hall, mannequin room.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
The mask man is setting up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
He's setting up. He's got a base case. Uh huh,
a giant base case.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Yep ka tall bloody they got. They were watching the
Geneve clock.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
You see the brand name of it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Okay, there you go, shout out, shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
The mass weird wird.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
I was carrying the cello to the middle the mannequin
room and he drags Kate and puts her in the case.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
In it it's it's pretty big, it's pretty big, and all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
The clomping in the room is still clomping, clomping.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
And so he just sets up and he starts playing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Yeah, and he's terrible too, pretending to play, and mind you,
he's working it so funny and it's a slow fucking song.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
There's no communication. And then his his violin playing starts fires.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Yeah, and she's in the case waking up and like,
oh ship, I'm in here. I'm still you bastard. She's
panicking in there. Clock strikes, the sun is up, and
so then the guy, I guess it's like a vampire thing,
and yes, it's like a vampire.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
But also I love how fast the sun comes up
on this shot. Yeah, it's like it's starting to come up.
You see, just the very top of it cuts back
to him for three seconds, goes back and it's way
up and not even fully up, way up. That went fast. Yeah,

(01:06:17):
someone from here to here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Yeah, So Kate gets out and there's like ashes, but
in the shape of the music.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Symbol gets out because the sun magically unlocks bass cases.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Yeah, of course, of course, of course, So.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
I was sitting here like, okay, so I guess maybe
in the fine print he only had till sun up
to do this or else.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Everything else is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Fine, comes back to normal. But not only is he gone,
but he turns into a pile of ashes in the
shape of a treble clef. Yeah, okay, but also at
this part, the violin goes up in flames, and then
the sheet music, which already went up in flames, goes

(01:07:01):
up in flames. And it's bloody this time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Because like, bitch, you had a backup copy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
You're making these kind of soul contract deals with backup copies.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
That's not cool this. I thought this was an original parchment.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah, you whack sealed this, you bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
So Kate. Finally she escapes, gets out of the house,
Son is up. She's relieved.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Yeah, a woman in red steps out, and we've revealed
that the woman in red is Sylvia.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Sylvia, I don't understand. I love this whole ending because
the way that they tell us that it's not difficult
and it's easy to understand, it's such a simple concept,
and then go on to explain this ridiculous like justification,
and she's like, I don't understand that. Well, it's simple. Really,

(01:07:58):
why didn't you It's not really this justification you're giving. Yes,
So Sylvia is our our little girl from the very
beginning of Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Yeah, she's that crazy girl in the bonnet from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
And she works with mister Pickett. And he says, Daniel
knew me as mister Pickett. Perhaps I don't have a name,
Perhaps I have a thousand names.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
And he's like, do you understand? He said that, perhaps
I have a thousand names? Do you understand? No?

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
No, why would I understand that? This is really weird, weird.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Riddle to just throw on somebody who's dealing with trauma.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Yeah, let's say I'm the organizer for Sylvia's own private
hell ah, oh okay, why didn't you just fucking say
that first?

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
You got talking riddles?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yeah, just tell me about And Sylvia seems to like
it though, because she's like, smilingly, Yeah, this is wonderful,
it's great. There're the people who come here have already
been condemned.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yes, and it's kind of they explain, it's this weird
cycle that Sylvia has to bring people in every single
night for them to die so that she can relive
her punishment for killing her mom.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Yeah, and then we see another car pull up and
a new family get out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Perhaps the only innocent is the child, and she might
she might get away. And that's when Kate's like, wait
a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
I'm not dead.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
I didn't die. Still alive doesn't mean I can go
for ree.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I'm safe? Am I good?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
I don't like people who sell their souls for money
and success.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
And then he stabs Kate in the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Belly he trebled cleft knife.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Yeah, and it's like, I'm miss the part where she's
the one who sold her. He had nothing to do
with your deal with Daniels's Daniel And it's another Kate
belly shot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Yes, but I do wonder because when Kate knew an
awful lot about this sheet music when he brought it
to her, but it felt like she knew it just
on her own time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
This is a big Paganini fan.

Speaker 8 (01:10:12):
Yeah, and I love He says goodbye little Sinner, goodbye,
little Sinner. Go on, Sylvia, talk to them, don't play
hard to get and then he goes to Kate, you're
gonna love being here?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Why why would I love being here? I hate it.
I have been trying to leave.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Don't you understand what I was doing this entire time? Yeah,
the family goes inside, door closes, and that's the end of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
The real enchantment.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Divine, and I think that will What do we have
for the moment you've been waiting for your movie? What
do you wardrobe? That's a great one. Yeah, that's great. Okay,

(01:11:12):
I didn't go with wardrobe, but I fully am on
board with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
I went with It was a close one with the dialogue,
but the wardrobe I went with Vince Tempura.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
This the composer who did all the music. I loved
the score, not just the music, the rock and roll music,
but the score. It was I just had a blast
with that score. It was a really good one. It's
good Italian scores because they can be weird in like
the best way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Yeah. I love when it feels just unhinged. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:11:52):
So now do we remake, reboots, reimagine, remass, sequel or
prequel or didn't they already?

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Well, I'll be honest with you, I flip flopped on
this one back and forth, just because it's like, is
it a remake or reboot for me? Because remake for you?
Because I wonder about that endless loop, like can we
play in that? Oh yeah, that's good, or like how

(01:12:31):
many different ways? Is like Paganini really the bad guy
in everyone? He'd have to be, So I don't know
if I am on board with the Paganini being the
but the cycle I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
That's why I was like, is it just the remake
or like the people who get dragged in then become
a part of the haunting, then we get more of
hotty pati rita.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
There you go, that's how we do it. That's how
we do it over with her at.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
The time, a different cool see through outfit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Great, it's a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
We didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
And this Assault of the week, we have our special guest,
professional air musician Michael Ulrich.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Hello.

Speaker 10 (01:13:32):
My name, of course is Michael Ulrich, and I am
a professional air musician, an artist, a street performer, et cetera.
Most people only know air guitar or air drums, but
he's so much more than that. Now, my nostalgia is

(01:13:55):
for a time and a place where people gave damn for.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Their art form. The film you watched.

Speaker 11 (01:14:04):
Paganini horrible, disgusted and offended me and my entire profession.
The musical mimicary was unrefutably inadequate. This motion back and
forth like a spastic oranguting is a fiddle, not a violin,

(01:14:25):
you twit. This is a guitar, This is a bass,
This is a guitar. This is a bass, saxophone, obo, flute, clarienet, trumpet.
If you are going to commit to the part, don't
accept the role. There are those dedicated to the craft

(01:14:46):
who have spent twenty thirty years grinding air music scenes
across this great country, begging for their chance to show
their mastery of musical mimicry. There you are skating by
your arrogant ignorance, slide.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Whistle because oh tambourine.

Speaker 12 (01:15:11):
Him me, damn it someone, I'm a one man imaginary orchestra. Now,
if you'll excuse me, I must find a corner to
go busk with my make believe banjo.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Ding dong ding dong, ding dong.

Speaker 7 (01:15:27):
Ding dong doom Back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
All right? That was a weird individual, Yeah, and that
trings us one new segment What jitny one? Top five?

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
So these are the five our five favorite lines from
the film.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Yes, It's great dialogue At.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Number five we have Yeah, you're right, I've heard of
the special wood before and it's special sounding violins.

Speaker 10 (01:16:23):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Number four cut, that's enough for me. You are very very,
very very great girls.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
And at number three we have to go take a
look and see if the invisible barrier is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Yes, number two. No one has ever done anything like that,
remotely like it before, except for Michael Jackson with Thriller
and his fantastic video clip.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
And you're our number one, number one favorite line of
the film. This is the fungus for sure. I saw
it in La in a TV documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
It's large in a TV documentary. She had to deliver
some bangers. This one did.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
And we have also Zodiac speculations.

Speaker 13 (01:17:14):
Oh yes, zodiac speculations with Jenny.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Okay, so here we go. I think Lavinia gives Capricorn fearless.
She does fearless, business oriented, not mail centered. Time is money,
she don't play, but loyal to a point where she
was going to go back in there and get her there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Sylvia, I think is a Taurus, rock and bod and
obsessed with her house. Paganini, elusive and vindictive, Aquarius or
cancer man vibes. Hmmm, Daniel, he sold his soul to
impress a chick who wasn't even the main contractual band.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Capricorn for him because

(01:18:10):
I dated a Capricorn.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Who behaved that way.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Rita is the hottest one, but Quiet doesn't like to
be a part of everything, stayed behind to look at
herself in the mirror, So I think she's definitely a Burgo.
Kate is Sagittarius, in your face, commanding, excited about new
big ideas like bon Jovi. Alternately, if it's not Sagittarius,

(01:18:35):
it's aries because you and I we both have that
same kind of like vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
And that was so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I'm with all of the four star reviews on that,
and it was fun. It was really just very very silly.
I love to I love to live in those types
of worlds. Yeah, well that'll do it for us. Thanks
being glad to be back. Yes, thank you, welcome bag.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
I'm Jenny Wiger, I.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
I'm Jeremy Brave, thank you for joining us and be signed.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Video Rentals hosted by.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Jenny Wanger and Jeremy Briggs.

Speaker 9 (01:20:09):
Written and produced by Jeremy Briggs, Jenny Wanger and Jenevie Marie.

Speaker 13 (01:20:14):
Edited by Jenevieve Marie, music by Jeremy Briggs.

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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

The Brothers Ortiz

The Brothers Ortiz

The Brothers Ortiz is the story of two brothers–both successful, but in very different ways. Gabe Ortiz becomes a third-highest ranking officer in all of Texas while his younger brother Larry climbs the ranks in Puro Tango Blast, a notorious Texas Prison gang. Gabe doesn’t know all the details of his brother’s nefarious dealings, and he’s made a point not to ask, to protect their relationship. But when Larry is murdered during a home invasion in a rented beach house, Gabe has no choice but to look into what happened that night. To solve Larry’s murder, Gabe, and the whole Ortiz family, must ask each other tough questions.

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