[Zombie] Death House

📼Jeremy & Jenny Discuss
📼”[Zombie] Death House” (1988, Dir. John Saxon, Starring Dennis Cole)
📼Hosts: Jenny Wenger & Jeremy Briggs
📼Editor: Genevieve Marie
📼Written & Produced by: Jeremy Briggs, Jenny Wenger, & Genevieve Marie
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* 0:00 - Cover Art Cold Open
* 1:06 - Open Credits
* 1:36 - Welcome
*3:15 - “Not-So-Current Events”
*9:35 - Review ”[Zombie] Death House”
*44:10 - On Set Speculation
*56:07 - Movie MVPs 
*57:57 - Remake Reboot Reimagining, Remaster or Sequel?
* 1:04:13 - Nostalgia of the Week
* 1:08:10 - credits
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Thursday, December one, nineteen eighty eight. Today is the very
first World AIDS Day. Information I'm only giving you because
it's true. And you've decided not to do anything because
you're afraid people will think you're celebrating AIDS because you're

(00:27):
a dumbass. So what do you do? You watch a movie?
But what do you watch? Scrooged, The Naked Gun, Yogi
and the Invasion of the Space Bears. Hell no, you're
in a Saxon type mood. You want to get all
the way Saxon up and you're in luck. John Saxon's

(00:49):
directorial debut on the Box, a pink and violet fleshy school,
stares directly into your soul.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
You're about to step into the zombie.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Welcome to be Sad Video Rentals. I'm Jeremy Briggs.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Come, I'm Jenny Winger.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Thank Jenny Way.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I'm so good.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh I'm so much better.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah you've had a week.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah I just moved surrounded by boxes and dirty clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah you said you still have things in your car.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yes, I didn't. I didn't unload it yet. I was like,
I got things to do, I got priorities.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I got to talk about Death House.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I got to talk about some zombie death House.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Which it was very different than I imagined it would.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Be very different.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, I mean I wasn't disappointed.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
It's like two or three different movies, yes, at the
same time.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, and I was on board for two of them.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
The third one.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I have some opinions that are probably going to get
me in trouble, but you know what you're.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Going to give them. Yeah, and then I'm gonna be like,
I don't agree. Somebody hire me? Yeah, see the crazy why?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
And then the people from my side are only hate listening,
like my family and Tennessee, they will hate listen to
this to pray for me.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
So it's fine, Well somebody needs to you. Hey, then
I am ah, you want to get into the.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
New why not? See what's going on? Why not.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Thursday December first, nineteen eighty eight and the so you're
not so current to veins.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
After six years of studying rival ideas for an international
deep space mission, the European Space Agency has decided to
explore Saturn's moon Titan to learn about the original origin
of life, which is a waste of time. If you
asked me, the origin of life is all about sticking
that p in the v they're talking about the wrong staff.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
You figured it out. We figured out a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I figured it out, and then I figured it out.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Good lord.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
The Consumer Product Safety Commission announced today that vapor samak
steam irons are being recalled because of their danger of
starting fires. Hell, I sure he's one of those on
my last camping trip.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Uh huh, got start to fire somehow. Tonight's edition of
forty eight Hours is about the poachers killing off black
rhinoceroses at a devastating rate, suggesting that the impoverished poachers
consider themselves more endangered than the rhinos, saying they'll shoot
anything and everything. In unrelated news, I'm taking my mother

(04:27):
in lawdo Zimbabwe jeary. Applications for the Concert Artist Guilds
International New York Competition must be received by January twenty seven.
The competition is open to all classical instrumentalists except organists,
those lying, filthy tricksters. I don't trust an organists, the

(04:50):
whole lot of them. You can't have my kidneys. Freaking organists.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I've heard about them on the black market. I'm not
interested in learning more. Not the met said yesterday that
they had told Gary Carter he would not be traded
this winter and would return as their regular catcher next season.
Nothing boosts your ego quite like being called regular.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
He's a regular.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
He's just that was also one of my nicknames in college.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's regular. Now she's a regular?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, regular what. Scientists said today that a series of
plutonium leaks at the government Savannah River plant near Aiken,
South Carolina were caused by gaskets and leaky seals. Although
I think blending leaky seals is a bit judgmental. It's
not like anybody's out there teaching seals how to kigle.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah. I mean we're all a little leaky sometimes, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Especially when you hit a certain age. I mean it
gets harder.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Seriously, though, seal keegels. The National Football League suspended Mark
Brown of the Miami Dolphins for one game yesterday as
additional punishment for a late hit. He would have gotten
away with it if he had just blamed his wife.
They make you late for everything. I would have been

(06:13):
on time, but she had to put on makeup. No
college hockey officials have worked hard to curb fighting, with
some success, their sport has less of the boring brawls
that are common to the professional game. Because these college
players know Kravmaga, it's not boring.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Antire bronze vessel used for an ancestral worship has, which
was reportedly stolen from a Chinese museum last June, has
been withdrawn from this morning's auction at South Bee's Ancestral Worship.
No thanks. Last time I got on ancestry dot com,
I found out I'm related to a racist, redneck rapist
riddled with raybans. That's a lot, but I didn't have

(06:59):
to find that mansestory dot com.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Good try.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
CBS has announced that it will develop a new weekly
comedy series, custom tailored for Valerievarpara called Desperate Women, where
she plays a woman who tries desperately to be taken
seriously by anybody, by anybody.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
But women can't do business. Men do business. Women have
no business in business.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I'm gonna do my business right on your fucking chest
if you don't shut up about them.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
These are chokes. Oh my god, it was so aggressive.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I'm a business lady.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Look at nineteen eighty eight ghetto. Now you are placed
preparations for the secret military mission of a space shuttle
Atlantis continued today as officials monitored the approach of eye
winds and threatened to delay the launching schedule for Thursday morning.
The mission is so top secret. The New York Times
is a detailed article in today's newspaper. Why didn't they

(07:57):
say it was secret?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
If you're trying to keep a secret, that's probably not
the blaze.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Maybe don't put it in New York Times. Although state
and local flu vaccine programs are increasing, only about twenty
percent of people at high risk of complications from the
flu are immunized against the disease each year. Because vaccines
make you crazy. I'll take one flu over the cuckoo's
nest any day.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
So many things to say here, like this is one
of those subjects where every time I talk about that,
I get in trouble. The New York Philharmonic's weekly radio
broadcast of sponsors who will be suspended after the December
twenty fifth program, the orchestra announced that it will seek
a sponsor to replace Exon. The decision was made after
Exon revealed its new slogan, It's better to be Exon

(08:46):
Mobile than Exon crippled canceled.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's a terrible slogan. Well, that's a really terrible one.
Two health advocacy groups petitioned the FDA to ban the
use of drugs to stop milk production and breast engorgement,
which is sometimes painful in women who don't breastfeed after
giving birth. One of the groups, known as the Milk Daddies,

(09:09):
was quoted as saying, keep us the mute we want.
It's not treepy, it's neat. Yes, keeps us to milsies,
once to mirrors, and I'm so upset. Right See, this
is what happens when you don't pre read.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I didn't say iveroray should tweet that one because I'm
gonna vomit on camera?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And that because you're not so current events down there?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Who okay, zombie death house, let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Did you hear that one that things so loud like that?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
What? I got a message in it?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Dang? I think it's just my ear.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
That happens every time I get a boner. Sorry, your
boner works kind of like a triangle. Maybe I need
to get new pants.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, someone aren't made of wind chimes. The penis
coming through wind chimes. I would be very alarming. I
thought they were so peaceful.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
It was so peaceful until I was accosted. So where
were my goodness?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
We're in for it?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Directed by John Saxon, master Piece.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, I'm watching it. It was like my husband, because
my husband, for those of you who felt mo is,
he did a lot of television in the late eighties
and through the nineties. So watching this with him was like, oh,
I know, oh, I know her. Oh I've worked with him,
Like I just movie, I kind of have to say

(11:10):
things about it.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
You made him watch it? Huh.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I didn't make him. He wandered in and saw somebody's
boobs and sat down and kept.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Watching the first the first set of boobs.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, so he's like, oh, I love I'll see it.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
This is Wait a minute, what's what's this film? I'll
give it. I'll give it a chance. The boobs that
that come right up.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Top, really hard, nipples, really excited, they're they're pointing east
and west in a lovely way.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
So apparently, uh, this is the this is the only
John Saxon film directed by and he apparently they lost
their director, like at the last minute, and he's like,
I'll do it me.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
So was who was the one who you think put in.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
All the homo erott stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Is this This is like a really homo erotic film,
which is one of the parts of the film that
I love.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Like a lot of guys go to prison and they
make it like super tough guy and everything's really and
they're just.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Like, we're all fucking in here. You're beautiful. Hey, that
was a love story, but it was apparently he got
in h He's not happy with the film. Obviously the
producers in him did not see out of eye on
what the film should be. They made him put a
lot more gore in car chases in the film. I

(12:38):
think I'm on the producer's side.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
I like the gore and the car chases and the
homo eroticness saved it from the other.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Because it really feels like it's like, is this a
mafia revenge story? Yes? Is it a zombie in prison movie?
Or is it a chemical doctor movie? Yeah? Chemical doctor movie.
I agree? Know them lapoat words and me your friends,

(13:05):
lap coats classes smart stuff and just a full disclosure,
we're going to be calling these things zombies throughout this
even though they're not. They're not zombies. They're more days later. Yeah,
they're more twenty eight days later, infectious disease things and

(13:26):
flush eating goouls of the Romero.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Type with superhuman strength.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Though, yes, which is cool. So for the sake of
not being complete dorks, that's what we're doing. Yes, goodness.
We start out with helicopter shots in the middle of nowhere,
so that we know that it's going to be a
cheap film. Yeah, this is stock footage. This is stock

(13:53):
footage for sure, in the middle of nowhere. Uh. And
then we just get the like right away, we're bombarded
with it's like just the the laziest developing of story.
It's like we've voiceover flashbacks, We've got voiceover. We like,
he's this guy's driving with the best haircut you could.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Have, absolutely one of the heroes of the film.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
And it's just like constant voiceover and it's like, okay,
so now we know that he went to Vietnam and
now he's out and he was a hero. But he
from he's a chauffeur for a big time gangster because
that's the only job he can get.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, I mean, yes, of course not.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
So those are those always like voiceover always brings me
out and makes me just get so you're just trying
to fix a story at this.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Because not like we didn't film anything that supports this,
so we're gonna have him. It's showing him with his
match shut looking around and his voice talking into a
freaking mic.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Not even it's yeah, it's not even a a it's
not even a voiceover like a traditional like we're in
his head. It's like, no, we're playing a different scene
while you're looking at him, while he's yeah, okay, So
we immediately know, all right, he's a chauffeur, even though
we have to kind of figure out that he's a
big time gangster. We cut to this big time gangster.

(15:26):
Yeah and that.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
And he kisses his young hot girlfriend, wife's lady, and
I almost threw up because he she kisses him and
it's like this open mouth discussed.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, they go in for it, and she definitely Are
you sure he grabbed it?

Speaker 3 (15:45):
He had his hand on there and was leading it.
You think she chose to do that?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
I like that guy. I she unlike him. I know no.
I just immediately was like, okay, this is a gold
digging situation. She's she's got the mapia guy. I didn't
find it out of the realm of possibility for her
to just be like, I gotta keep him happy. Will
I go off shopping or whatever? Yeah, but she's not shopping.

(16:11):
What is she doing.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
She's meeting well, the chauffeur, Derek.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Derek the chauffeur, Yeah, picks her up and they have
a little uh men, immediately go to Bangtown bank Town.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Which it was like the Grosses Motel, and I'm like,
you're so rich, why are you going.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
To this hotel? So then nobody shopping money?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh, the Ceedy Motel. Like I'm like, this lady isn't
going to roll around in like rat turned sheets.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
You think she's too good for that.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah. Too, Well, she's she's hooking up with Derek, which
who I was like so confused at person, I'm like, wait,
is this the same guy? They had the same haircut
but a little the same guy, Yes, but it looked
like it was a different haircut that day. Oh, one
day they had cut his hair fresh and it was

(17:04):
super short in the bangs and then the next day
it was like feathered. But they were the same day.
So I'm like, I'm confused. So seem playing bonner guy
and now he's playing Vietnam guy. And then it started
unraveling once I found out, like how pissed the guy
it was.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
So that's that's Derek and he's played by Dennis Cole.
And what I found fascinating is h two when we
did our thunder Run two episodes ago or whatever that was,
we talked about a movie called Pretty Smart because Jay
Levy did the music or that opening song Born to
Rock play. Dennis Cole is in that film.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I just full and I like his Vietnam that guy too,
So like after they bang it then shows him like
getting like talking with his Vietnam bet who's letting in
all blake, Yeah, stay with famine.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, crash on his couch or whatnot. Yeah. And then
pretty quickly, I mean, this stuff goes very rabid fire.
They're giving us so much information. You know, in the
first fifteen minutes there's tons of information. It's kind of
like up.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yes, Yes, it's very much that touching and impact.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
You know people say people say out and they just
talk about up and how just wonderful that ten minutes
is and how much information. But look, they should watch
this movie. They crank in. Yeah, a lot of hours
worth of Storre.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
So the thing that I love is they follow her,
they catch her with him. The mob guy is like pissed.
He's like, I'm gonna make sure that she pays well.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
But before that happens, he there's like a the other
gangster guys are like, you're gonna take us. We've got
some kind of a jewelry exchange, and go to this
jewelry exchange and it's a setup, a double cross, and
Derek is like, oh, I got to go help him.
So he goes out there. He has a Vietnam flashback

(19:03):
of him like snapping some guy's neck, and then he
snaps the guys yeah, and then he likes them.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
But then he sets the people who tried to kill
them free and they're like, oh, this is gonna be
bad for you.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Oh no, I want to see you. Explain that to
Murretti and then he's just like I thought my last war,
like I just saved you. He runs away and he
just like decides at this point he's going to go
into hiding. And this is where they follow Janelle yeah,
to find out that they've been hooking up to time it.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
To Simon and so this scene was really wild because
it was like she's in the bathtub and.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Which let's just talk about that tiling red with like
a like the tiling was on the floor, it was
on the walls. Job it was nice. I love that girl.
That it to me, that is success. That's what looks
like copulence.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
So he's massauging her. Oh, and she's like that's really cool. Oh,
you're hurting me. And then he starts like choking her
and then drowning.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Before he does that, he says, like my favorite line.
Then he's like, hey, give me that mouth. It's gross,
give me that mouth. And then he like they force
his tongue down her throat, blushes her in the water,
and that's when he kills her.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
And while she's dying, they had her just lift one
titty up out of the water because they needed that
last titty shot.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
They're like, as you're dying, can you just put your
nipple out? We need to do this again. We said
lean to the left, Yeah, you gotta arch your back up.
It was so we need this drowning to be sex.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
And what does he say, so long, baby, I'm gonna
miss those soft.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Lips, miss those This guy loves soft lips.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Soft lips. He says soft lips all the time.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
It makes nice.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I'm like, I'm gonna have that on repeat in my
nightmares for life. But what I also love is right
from here. It's the chase with the cops. Right yeah,
because he hears Derek Here's on the radio that she's
been killed, and oh did he hear that?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I thought he just ran for no reason.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
No, he heard it on the radio and he was like,
oh fuck, And I was like, the worst thing to
do is run from then when you know they're coming
for you for murder. It's like pull over and say
I didn't do it, Like this is a thing. But
it's like this guy owns the cops. He knows who
he is, and he knows this mafiosa guy and he
has no chance in hell.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Do you have anything to say about the chase itself.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I thought it was so badass.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I don't think they would have called him in real
life with the moves he pulled.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
My favorite thing about about that chase is like they
corner him and he has to like he stops and
he's surrounded, hit the the the way he like hits it,
So he hits his steering wheel soew like he's like
a twelve year old. Oh shucks, Oh oh they got me,
dang it a oh boy, this isn't good.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, it was so. But a lot of the stunts
were like that, like it felt like they were smack. Yeah,
you shut up.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
We don't want you guys to commit full of back click.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Your arms are made of rubber. But you find out
at the last second.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
So all of this happens at the first fifteen minutes. Yeah,
that is at the fifteen minute Marcus when.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
He SuDS to him and just a black room with
a light on him, and that's the car.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
It's the courtroom. It's so funny. It's just ten months
later him his lawyer, a table and then one guy
in the background was like a police uniform or whatever.
And it's like, that's not like wartroom.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
You're pulling absolutely nobody.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
It's so like they shot the movie. We were like,
oh shit, oh we forgot the courtroom scene. Hey we
got about fifty bucks.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Just spanning in a corner and put a line on.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, does anybody got like real thick duvatine And we
could just put it in the background a blockout.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
You can at least have gotten like an office and
like have like a nice tape.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
No, it's a black standing.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
They're all weird. So now he's going to prison.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Down send statey and uh more audio flashbacks.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, and then they let it know, we don't care
what your name is. You're now number nine oh seven
two oh no. Write that down and they never pay
that off ever again.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Why would they?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Everybody knows everybody's name, right, everybody introduces by name.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Stop calling each other by your names. We gave you
numbers for a reason.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
They told us we're numbers. In the prison guard we
found out later why he knows everybody's name.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Indeed, we do, like I was a scumbag. This is
where we finally meet John Saxon's character, very quick. His
name is Colonel Gordon Burgess, and all we know at
this point is he's up to no good. Yeah, and
I like that.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
As they're sending him in to be introduced to all
the other prisoners, the fat weird prison guard, who I
hate for multiple reasons, says if he messes up, we'll
tear him a new asshole. And boy does he like
really need that.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
He does. But also at that point he he like
puts his glasses on. Don't worry about it, Warden. If
he gives us any trouble aviator sunglasses, we'll just tear
him a new asshole. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I was like, I see where caruso about the CSI
Miami bit y.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, he watched Zombie death Houses. Yeah he's inspired. I'm
gonna do that, my god. Yes.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
So that he's introduced everybody, it's just like the weirdest
intros ever.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
But before that, like, I just have to point out
this set dressing in the warden's office cracks me up
because there is a full bookshelf that is completely empty.
There's not a thing on this bookshelf.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
I've been I've been meaning to put stuff up there.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I want to at least believe that this is an office.
Just put something in that thing better from the courthouse,
you know that's what they're like, should we fill the bookshelf? Nah,
we just gave them a black screen for a courthouse.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
They're fine, fine, the said dead guy. This was his
first sam last yop. But as he's walking through, everyone's
the horniest I've ever seen anyone. I'm want Becky, Oh
you're sixy O, can't wait to binge you where like
it's just like the like every single one of them
is like this, Like there's not a single one of them.
That's just like I'm just trying to do my time

(26:00):
and get out of here. Everyone's like so horny.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Hey man, I've been in here for six weeks. I'm horny.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
And then you meet the Mafiosa guys.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Franco Moretti. Franco played by Michael Pataki. He was in
Rocky four, Halloween four, and Graduation Day, Vic's little brother,
the top Dog.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
It was insanely gay, like over the top, over the top. Hi,
this is my boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
You just meet him.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
He's in a crop talk.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
He's wearing a black wife beaters. Wait too short, it
looks like a bra.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
And he's like, you know, is it Sean? Sean's his lever.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Sean is his love.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Here's his lever with feathered, beautiful hair. And they let
them sleep in there together in their made up room
that looks like their apartment.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
And they just cuddle. They just cuddle.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
They're really cute together.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I do love that someone actually vocalizes welcome to the
death house. Yeah, somebody actually said welcome to the death house.
I wish he said Welcome to the zombie death House.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, it's like, oh my might as well.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Might as well. But John Saxon was like, I don't
think so, guys, that's taking it one step too far.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
He like didn't even agree for it to be zombie
dead house.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Right, Yeah, he's like, this is just death house.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
No, people love zombies. We're just gonna make it zombie dead.
People love sobies. So then he goes to like his
like it's almost like solitary confinement, right, it's on the
death row area, and it's like nothing, like they had
these beautiful cells that look like condos, and he's in
this terrible one across from.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
His name's Adams, prisoner Adams. But like Derek goes to
sleep and he wakes up with a plastic cockroach on
his face. This place is infested with plastic cockroaches.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, he's smacks it like believe it's alive. But we
get a little bit of an exposition from Adams about, oh,
it's likely everybody's kind of back to the little stupisa. Oh,
they make everybody drink that and it makes them stupid.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
So I just don't know they're handing out behavior. They've
got a behavior modification program, but he does tell you.
He says, I don't do that, but the people that do,
they all get booze and pussy.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, okay, but then they're two. They're too out of
it to even enjoy you.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
He said, though. Yeah, and for some reason, this guard,
who we just know and love so much, he hates
prisoner Adams. He hates Adams. Yeah, he says, you know, Adams,
when you fry, I'm gonna make sure you fry real slowly,
like a chicken in my barbecue. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
And Adams, I don't know if it's here or later,
but I love They said make sure you marin ain't me.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, it's cool. I like him. Yeah. Adams is not
impressed with his guard, not at all.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
So that one of the experimental guys. So at this point,
Saxon's character is going to up. Like they change the dopsitions.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
The drugs, change the drugs entirely.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, but I forget what his H one H sounded
like HB eight. I was like, this sounds really close
to the pink H one N one But yeah, that's right.
So he's changing it and they're like, well, is it
going to be kind of the same no, it's going
to be completely different, not explaining.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, and the doctor's like, no, that's enough information. Nope, no,
no I'm not doing that.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Your funding will be pulled.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, I'm not doing it. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I got in this to help people.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, we're not crazy. Yeah. So what does he do?
He he give it to the guard, the predictable guard
who yep, he'll do anything.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, he needs his funding, so he goes along with
it and the guard gives it to that. You kind
of think they're going to give it to Adams or Derek,
but then they go back to like the biggest, strongest
looking guy in the place.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
He just doesn't sticks them.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Bit.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's just the guards sneaking around needling Randos with a needle,
which is what I do on a tuesdayn Kouanga correct.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
You can actually get very popular that way in Lollywood.
Well like stick me, it's.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Hey, what are you ben out stuffs?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I just want to get in line. So the guy.
What I love though about it is when they go
to check on him, it's like he's got a nosebleed.
That's the first sign first the infection, and it seems
like a really big headache. So what I was thinking
is maybe he's been taking the stupid boyson because he
like lost all of his vocal abilities and a superhuman strength.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Right. He gets out and he's start tossing guards like
I tossed salad, and Derek is just watching the chaos
unfold from his cell. I don't know how, but I
gotta get out of this place.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Well, Saxon meets with our guard one more time and says,
I need one more more. They need one more and
he hands on the and he goes to prisoner Adams
because they're like, he's gonna die in a day. He's
on death row. He's being killed tomorrow at midnight. Yeah.
We then find out because we go to a church.
He's being killed at midnight on Christmas. Yeah, like what

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a horrible place and the Christmas we're gonna murder you.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And they called in the reporter lady with her camera.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Guy, yes, is she a reporter?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Scientist?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Saxon calls a sexy lady in a penthouse that's my
note in silk Row. Yeah, oh I didn't finish typing.
That is Taine McClure, daughter of Doug McClure. Yes, for
give me the full thing oh.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
He told me, you know the song Faithfully that's written
about her, And I was like, what the hell? Really,
it's like, yeah, I know her.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I was a big fan of her dad's and so
he yeah, it's it's very unclear. It's like she was
a great scientist. Yeah, and just was like, I'm going
to give it up for journalism. Yeah, I'm no longer
interested in science.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Just like two completely different degrees.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
But she agrees to come help him because well, she
was part of this HV eight. She helped create it
and like design it or whatever. And she but she
gave it up because she's like, no, I'm not going
to do this anymore. I want to, you know, write
for a local newspaper. Yeah. And then she's like, well,
if you give me an interview, this is my phone,

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this is this is a phone, this is a this
is not a this is a banana, and then the
sex and immediately hangs up the phone and he's like,
she fell for it. Yeah, why did she fall?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I don't Why are you sending her there?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Like he plays such a weird game of chess. He
like the people he sends in and the reasons he
doesn't make no sense to me. He's just like, hey,
how about put another person in there?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
So then we cut. Then we go to church.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
We go to church and it's.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
The warden and his family, everybody's there and some disgusting
dude preparing the wine and Crackford.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Be sure, well this is the age old classic scene,
right with the old preacher who bleeds from the nose
into the communion juice. Classic scene.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
I was sitting here like what my auntis some brain
almost broke, like now it's not this was disgusting. This
was a new upset for me, and I was just like,
oh God, please don't let people actually do this. And
I just I can tell you if I would have
even been there the day that they were doing that trick,

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I wouldn't have been able to drink the.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Drink just from the thought of it. And then Derek
of course does not take communion, which you know, I felt.
So I felt that he was so relatable to me
at this moment because I never did and I always
let her walk go buy me.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I mean, I fell for it because I want to
bench use.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So I was like nice, it was like sugar, Yeah,
I just felt so creepy. I just felt weird. About it.
I was like, I don't I.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Don't know who put this in a year. I don't
know where these cups.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Aren't understand Yeah, I need more information.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
And even even the idea of we're eating his flesh
and blood? Why oh so, why.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Is this warden bringing his wife and kid? His wife
hates this, hates it. She hates it. He's like, but
we do it every year, So why I've told you
that I hate it every year. I don't want to
do this, but it's tradition.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Here's where I get in trouble. As almost like feed
that little girl too. She I'm my last nerve every
time there's a shot that lacross that sat I probably
wants to be a child after somebody put her there
and said just do this. And she's like, why they
just do it?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay, why I don't understand, mommy? Ah. So, Taine finally arrives,
also known as Tanya in the film. Her name is Tanya,
and she immediately wants to interview him. She's like, gets
out of the back of the cab and it's like
start rolling, yep, let's go. We're kind of getting ready

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to uh see Adams execution.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, but first of the family argues in front of
the daughter. I had that written down.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Had to do that right. I really need to talk
more about this daughter and the argument.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
She's just sitting there and they're screaming at each other
like I'm just like, why moms and dad at least
wait until I went in my bedroom with paper thin
walls to yell at each other like this. I would
listen to it from the other room. As they're fighting,
they come in and tell there's an emergency.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Oh saxon is He just says, Okay, we're locking it down.
Nobody out, nobody in locking it down. He puts her
in there immediately says we're logging it down. Yep.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Just seeing her in there.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I don't like her years ago. I never forgave her
for ditching me.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
We were on a date. She wasn't pleasant. I paid
for everything.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
She was my lab partner.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
There was a vendetta there. The warden is raping someone
or not the word in the prison.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Prison guards who we immediately loved. This is what you
were referring to earlier about the tearing the new asshole.
He decides to rape Sean.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, which this is such a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Why Are you raping Sean? First of all, he's bleeding
from the nose. Yeah, But he says to him, you
bend over for Franco, You're gonna bend over for me.
And I don't know why he's doing it because it's
not romantic. There's no Yoyoma playing in the background.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
No, it was horrible. This was a bad scene for me.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Really, you find rape scenes up setting. People can love them.
They're a fan faith for Red.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
But for me, I'm just like, he's in love.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
How could you do this to him? He's in love
with Franco. And now we have Adam's execution going underway,
but he's been jabbed already yep, with the super juice,
and he hulks out.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
As he's taking him though to get He looks in
at Derek and says, beat your meat.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Interesting, like, whose choice is this? So he begins to
hulk out as he's gets getting We've got some wonderful
eighties bladder effects going on on his forehead. Barrow blow blow,
and uh you know he he gets out and starts
freaking havoc zombie Adams. I love that he grabs a

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guard and like jams him into the prison. Bars, throws
him by the ass. What I wanted to talk about
was when Adams slams the guard into Derek's prison bars
and he like pushes him so far into the things
he just dangles there, yeah, dangling by the head. And
so Derek grabs the keys, unlocks it, and starts unlocking

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everybody's cages.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
And remember that Adam still is coherent and speaking, is
he Yeah, he said this is mine and takes back
his instrument, and you know, like he's talking the other
guy's oh, and he's like, this belongs to me. This
is my book and this is my instrument.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
So this is when just chaos ensues. Prisoners kill each other.
Guy slices the throat of a guard and says that
pig deserved it done.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, and somebody says we're going to have a party.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Tanya comes running in and takes charge. She's like, everybody,
stop fighting, I'm gonna make it back. See yes, And
everybody's like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Dude, do whatever you want to do with your time.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
And also, how did Derek all of a sudden become
a leader, Like he's the designated leader. These people don't
know him. It's been a day. Yeah, They're just like, yeah,
we'll follow this guy. We trust him, years of trust
built up.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah, he kind of does have that kind of hair though.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
He has the hair that is demanding to respect.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Like if that guy came in and started saying we
need to do this, it's like, yes, feathered mulletman, whatever
you say.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
The group all go out and they demand to be
let out. They have hostages.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, they said, don't kill the guards, we need them.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, and so they Derek comes out and they all
come out and Derek's like, I have a demand, deliver me.
Vic Moretti like what, Yeah, why is this a choice? Yeah, okay,
they'll give me vic Moretti.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, he's gonna admit that he framed me.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
And but I love this moment where our guard, our
real classy guard, drives up, let me out, let me out,
and they're like no, we're in lockdown. And then Adams
pops up behind him and put it's him in a headlock.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Headlock until he's decapitated.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
He decapitates him with a headlock. I love it.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, so good. And they won't let the warden's family out.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
They're pissed. They won't let anybody out. There's like long
down is Londown, Deal with it? And like, I love that.
Someone says to Saxony's like, what do we do about
Moretti's about them that Moretti demand? Let me worry about Moretti.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Is this where we cut to hit the mafia guy in.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
A restaurant, Yes, yes with it? Where he repeats the
line again, I'm a sucker for soft lips because he's
got a new bombshell.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
And he's got just a replacement lady who's got the
same hair and everything as the lady killed.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
So he's just telling this tale to his cronies.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
And everybody's turns to their seat.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, we love He's like belittling Saxon's character, saying that
he helped him out when he was at his lowest,
and then he you know, he owes.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Him kind of yeah, I'll never let him forget it.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
I never let him forget it. Saxon says, do this
for me and I'll get Frank go apart. And so
what is vic deal? He shows up. Yeah, I'll go
into the prison and talk to this guy.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Because he doesn't tell him about the contagious environs.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Somebody goes like, what'd you guys talk about? He's like, oh,
you know, he reminisced about old times. I guess I
forgot to tell him about the virus.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
You're going in there to die? Yeah, haha, I don't
have to be in your pocket anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Like he's just throwing people in there, willy nilly, Yeah,
are you want to go in there? Hey? Will you
do it?

Speaker 3 (41:46):
So he comes in and it's like the Wads part
the prison waves because it's yeah, Derek, our hero, the
waste part, and then there's Moretti at the end, like
lit up like the Godfather.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
While he did like he does go through, he gets
like a guide to go through, and he sees all
the dead bodies and he's like, what's going on over here? Though,
like you don't want to know. It's like the plague
in here. And he's like so you see him finally
start going, oh wow, what's going on? It was like tricked,
I should not be.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Here, Yeah, I shouldn't be a part of this.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Oh my goodness. So this is like Vic kind of
realizes in this moment that he's outmaneuvered. He's there by
himself except for Franco, who he's trying to get out.
But he's like his only option is to try and
run away. Yeah, but as he tries to run away,

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our first guy who died apparently the zombie he like
died and then came back to life and murdered a
guy in front of Tanya.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Also, is that before or after when Morelli finds his
brother and says that we're going He goes, I'm not
going anywhere without Sean.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Well, okay, this is that that scene where he's like,
I'm not going anywhere out.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Of and he looks at shot kills o.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Rinco is hysterical, just destroyed.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
That's the love of his life.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, that is the love of his life.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
And he just watched him brutally murdered by his brother
and he cannot process it. It's like too much for him.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Because during this whole thing, uh vic, he grabbed the
little kid with the gun into the gun to the
warden's kid's head, and the warden convinces him to take
him and his wife instead and leave the kids.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, he knows where there's a tunnel where.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
There's so he's gonna lead them out to this tunnel
and so off.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
They go, and then the zombie guy comes.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yes, then the zombie comes and they just like shoot
him a few times and he's dead. Like, this is
not a zombie. You have to shoot on the head. Yeah,
you don't have to destroy the brain. You just had
to shoes kill him. This kill him.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
The lady in the lab calls Gordon and says, twenty
percent infected.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
And this is a part that I would like to
do an on set speculations A The warden's wife is
kind of leaning back against some bars, nobody's behind her,
and all of a sudden zombies come up behind her
and grab her from behind and start choking her. One

(44:27):
of the zombies, uh stage right, reaches in full on
boob like just grab.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Too, and it's the second grab boob grab. So I'm like,
what was because in the office there was a boob
grab when Derek was leading the scientist lady out and
it's okay, well come on, I'll shut We're gonna work
on this push turns were boob around on leave, So like,
what is going on on this set? Everybody's getting their handful.
What I want to say is like, was this a discussion?

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah? Can I was this? Did this happen? Like? Was
this like a direction from Saxon who says, okay when
you come in grab her boob or was this just
like a zombie gude just going just to just having
his moment extra, his zombie extra. He's like, I have
been waiting, I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna
do it. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
They said we have one take to get this.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, and so like it's just it's I hope there
was a conversation, because it didn't feel like there was
a conversation.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
But it was the eighties. There was not a conversation.
She was just as shocked as when it slides on
the other lady. She was like, these guys were like, oh,
this is how I get told to leave the room.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, this way, man. You know, acting is all about strong,
bold choices.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
It's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Just put it somewhere and in the chests with all
the other terrible memorycently it when you go to the
new meetings. So no, I don't think there was a conversation.
I think that this happened and she's and because this
lady looks actually really classy, like up tight, I want
to just watch the behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Seven that's my husband, Brey. Yeah, he's such a prankster.
So now Vic and the warden get in a fight, right.
The Warden's like, now we uh, I gotta go check
on my wife. She wandered off. Not good news, not
good news. So Vic's like, you're not no, no, you

(46:30):
keep working. You keep hitting that wall with a pickaxe, dude.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Then he gets pissed and kills him and says, I'm
gonna do it myself.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yep, pick axe through the belly.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
And Franco's not doing well.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Franco is not doing well. He keeps he's worse by.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
The moment and that was exacerbated by killing his love.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, yeah, you know what, you did that to yourself.
And then we cut back to Derek like trying to
take charge. Well, Derek's trying to take charge of everybody's else.
All right, really, let's let's take all these these bodies,
these infected bodies, and we're gonna move them all to
like that side of the room. And one of the
guys like, you would get me to touch any of

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those guys. This skin's falling off, and shit, I agree
with that. Pick him up, walk them over there.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I'm not a natural leader. I mean, I was just
banging some guy's wife and I give them up on life,
Like I'm just saying shit for us to do.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, I just want to keep us busy up at
the wall.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
So then he ends up backing the lab with her
and she's trying to figure it out, but he has
like this weird montage, this.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Weird dream sequence. Yeah, weird. Like, well, what I think
is that it is entirely necessary to the plot. Boob shot,
dang the cure. It's extremely necessary to the plot that
he has a dream sequence of her flashing.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Us and then turning into this And I was like,
was it her boobs or the boobs from before, say,
have the same haircut.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
No, that was definitely hair boobs because she was like
standing there in full because it was like a bay suit.
And then all of a sudden she's naked and turns
to her.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Why did they do that to her? Like she has
a famous daddy, she should not have to show her
titties for list, but whatever, maybe she wants you know what,
they look good right now?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
They look good right now? Yeah, you know what, they
never looked bad up on its Well show them off.
Get the shots are you sure you want to do this.
It has nothing to do with our story. Get my
damn titties in frame.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Somebody's going to masturbate me. But then she figures it out.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
They figure it out together. She said something and then
he says something, and they go back and forth and
they have this thing which is totally I completely buy this.
Lughead helped her. A brilliant scientist.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
So she's gonna go give the answer though, and the
antidote is gonna go to the little far.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
All First, they all start taking their shots of grapefruit juice.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Franco is outful on freak cazoid, and the Colonel Saxon
decides it's time.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
To blow the whole thing up. Yeah's gonna blow it up.
Scorched earth is what he says. Our only option is
scorched dirt. What a military man.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
I've sent more people in there, and now I need
to blow everybody what.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
I need to bring another three or four people in
there for no reason whatsoever. But Tanya Radio's in and
it's like hey, and lets him know, I got the vaccine.
I figured it out. We're gonna do that. We just
need supplies to.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Too late, too late, and she's like, why don't you
fucking inbove me him this?

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah, what this seems entirely unnecessary.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Sir already gives a proposition to somebody.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Like oh it's his name? Is uh? Hector, yes, because
he sees this is this guy who's dying one with
a thick vaccent. He's like, he's bleeding from the nose.
And he's just like, man, I can't turn into those things.
I can't die like that. Don't let me die like that.
Shoot me, you know the classic zombie. Don't let me
turn into the zombie. So so Hector he's like weeping

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kills him and victim He's like, hey, that was pretty good.
He's like yeah, he's like weeping that was yeah. He's like, yeah,
that happens sometimes.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Listen, I got a preposition for you. He's like, oh right, okay, yeah,
and I need something to take my mind off this.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Can he come use this pickaxe? I prefer if you
take your shirt off and you can take a few
swings with this wall.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
It gets work on that.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
The warden's son knows where this knows where this tunnel
is because his dad used to take him.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
So he's taking them he's.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Skateboarding them through the hallways.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yes, and then one random guy gets killed the wall
of zombies.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I think that's a cool look, insane.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
It's a great sign, that wall. It's so it's for them.
There's like a hallway. One is just a straight wall
and the other is lined with prison bars and there's
just endless zombie arms reaching out and they have it's
like a four four to five foot hallway. Yeah, so
they barely have any room obviously. The guy that we

(51:24):
don't know his name dies and.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Then they go buy a room and the kid sees twinkies, twinkies,
and then there's a major freak twinker.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
He's like a zombie chef with a butcher knife. My
colink gage Saxon's crew comes in and starts to place
at C four everywhere, Yeah, and they get attacked.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
They get attacked. The hero team finds their way to it,
but then the cameraman sacrifices himself so they can make
it the distance. Yes, he's like, I'm gone anyways, Like
my nose is bleeding.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Nose, he's bleeding, He's like, and actually it's just because
this guy gets nose bleeds. Yeah, He's like, this happens
to me all the time. Guys for me. Yeah, he
sacrifices himself to shoot the zombies as they approach. Yeah,
and uh, finally Vic and Derek. Oh wait, the Derek's crew.

(52:22):
They they find this wall they're trying to break through,
and Derek shoots Hector in the head. Shy wow.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Outside the Colonel they're all leaving and he's like, no,
I'm gonna stay with it. Why what I sacrifice all
of these people in and now you're like, I don't
even say and blow myself up too.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Well, he's told about this possible escape. One of his
dying soldiers is like, they're trying to get through the tunnel.
He's like, okay, look them. So he's gonna go blow
up the tunnel as well.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
So advises himself but wants to kill the like it's
just like it's wild. It's like you seem like the
most selfish person ever. And then now it's like, no,
I'm gonna make sure and finish what I started.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
We's got a lot of character development in the Colonel. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
So the tunnel entrance gets clear, but Vic and.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Derek have their little their little face off. Yeah, got
they've both got guns. They start shooting down. They're like, no,
no guns. They toss their guns. Classic been waiting a
long time to fist fight you. And then they just
toss on the floor.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
For a bit and like a special light where you
can see it really good.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Obviously, the kid sees his dead dad. Yeah, very upset
about that, which distracts Derek. Distracts him because he knocks
out Vic. But then the kids sad, so Derek's like, oh,
let me give you a little jail something that.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
He's all hard, you guys.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Vic grabs a gun and he shoots fires at Derek
just grazes him grace yep.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
And then who's coming in to try to kill him
but zombie.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Brother Zombie Franco.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah, I knew he was gonna pay for that ship.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
And then six more zombies come in and attack, but
he runs like a panther with diarrhea.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
This is another biblical daughter.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
What is with you and this daughter?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
I know I said it was going to be an
unpopular opinion. So they're shooting and they get found out
because of her going, well, can you just shut up
and not get us killed?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Right now, Saxon is getting attacked by these zombies and
he's he dropped the detonator. So the sea force everywhere
and he dropped the detonator. Derek and crew are running
to get out of this cave. Yeah, he grabs the detonator,
it blows it up. Eric is blown out of barely survives,

(54:47):
barely survives that thunder goodness or was that the explosion
of the cave?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
It was.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I was like, is somebody doing sound off?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
And do we then cut to the Pentagon, a stock
footage of the Pentagon.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yes, they're listening to the radio, and then it's and
then it's a guy in the Pentagon who's like denying
everything happened, and they're like, what the heck? And we
have a freeze frame on the guy in the Pentagon.
Bloody knows, bloody knows, we know that. And then the
ending song out of nowhere is Chemical Warfare by the

(55:26):
Dead Kennedys, which crushes but like, you don't have a
sense that this movie would ever have a Dead Kennedy song.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Yeah, very fitting title for this film. It should have
been Chemical Warfare prison.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
It didn't really fit the film because it would just
there's so many things about it that.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Just feels should have been like them.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
But in its defense, I think all all films should
end it's a dead Kennedy's, Like the Notebook should have
a Dead Kennedy song in it.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Naturally, Naturally, I why not?

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Naturally? Who do you got for a movie MVP on
this one?

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I mean, this is a tough one for me, the.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Movie and I agree with you, I agree with a
tough one. I sat there for a while and I
think I'm gonna go with the dead Kennedy's.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
I think for me the movie MVP would have probably
just random ass sleep and the relationship between Franco and Sean.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Oh okay, I'm not the extremely necessary to the plot
breastshot of.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Day when I'm down just saying boobies, just bov Yeah.
I mean the MVP was tough because because for me,
it's like I was, like, of course I had fun watching.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
It, because there wasn't enough consistency, and there was. It
was so disjointed and like all of the performances felt
a little confusing at times, not always most they all
had moments that were really good, but they just the
consistency was because is this a mafia movie or is

(57:10):
it a prison drama. Is this a sexy prison drama
or is it a zombie movie? I don't know what
it is.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
You know what I have my MVP. Oh, Adams's headlock
the capitation.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Oh that's pretty great.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Only part of the whole baby that I went.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
You're like, yeah, you're I agree, Like I honestly I
think you're right because that was a cheer moment for
me too. I was like, I have to rewind this
because like, I hate that they just did a headlock decapitation.
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Just pop that sucker off like it was popping a
champagne bottle.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
If we've never seen that. Just you're right, that's my MVP.
Remate reboots, reimagining, remaster or they all right, do you

(58:15):
have a thought? I have a thought? What's your thought?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Reimagined in the trilogy?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Oh see that I went with reboot. And the reason
I went with a reboot was because I feel like
the difference between a remake and a reboot is the
intention to start a franchise. And that's why I said reboot,
because I'm like, this is a franchise.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yeah, it's a trilogy.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Well to me, I mean it could it could go
on and on and on unlimited like Phantasms, not Phantasm,
but like any of those other sequels that just go
on and on and on, Fantasmic one of the It
was a big because those are those aren't needlessly like
they don't go on and on and we're like, who's

(59:02):
making this one? Now? It's all the same guy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
For me, I wanted to say, you know those Netflix
or HBO Max shows where each episode like kind of
like Morange just New Black each it dives into a
different Oh, I would imagine actually being like all series,
each episode you look into a different cell block and
kind of get that story. Okay, so it's okay the

(59:25):
John Genres. More are we all talking about like this?
Are we talking about like the same incident happening or
is it like a through line? Well for me, it's
like the season finale is always in that prison while
the outbreak is going on, but we do flat like
scenes of why this person's in here, what happened with
then that brought them to what their relationships are?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
So exactly like you said before, but I just ignored
you with the or is a New Black Black? Because
that's what they do. They show you how they got
there or they're I just ignored you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Uh you're a man, it's in your DNA to NARNI,
I'm just a stupid woman.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
See for me. Like like I said, I think you
get one shot at this big one and then the
rest of them are just kind of read different takes
on it. But you know we're yeah, it's another different prison,
or it's a different type of thing with not as
good of a lead or whatever. I think you you

(01:00:32):
focus on one thing. Forget about this mafia stuff, not
this Vietnam story. We just need a loner character, don't
give it, you know, like a Roddy Piper and they
live or Hell comes to frog Town like that type
of character. Like I just if we could get Roddy Piper.
I get Roddy Piper because this guy was definitely a

(01:00:53):
poor man's Roddy Piper. Sorry sorry, but.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Right we know who you were inspired by.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
So like, I think we need that type of traveling
bad ass because we need more traveling bad asses. And okay,
I'm gonna throw an name out there for the lead
in this thing. It's Connor McGregor because his insane role
in in the Roadhouse. Else I think you just you

(01:01:24):
you have to like manage him and just be like, hey,
don't do anything, don't do anything, no character, not this.
I just want you to deliver this cheesy line. Yeah,
that's it, and then kick ass because that's what was
That's like, he was just stoic and he had something

(01:01:44):
that just gravitated to it. And I think Connor does
that first one, and then you just have any random
uh c W star. Yeah, and then there are new
you know, lead for this new prison or whatever. But

(01:02:04):
I think we go heavy on the zombies and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Yeah, we're off on that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
One of the interesting things about it is like when
I was watching it, I got so many vibes of
Assault on Precinct thirteen. Yes, I got so many Assault
on Precinct thirteen vibes from it, but like and wanting
it to kind of go where that went because and
you know what's interesting is that Assault on Precinct thirteen

(01:02:34):
had a tenth of their budget, according to it, one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. This movie had one point
five million, and it doesn't show up on screen. It
doesn't have what in certain ways Ai Kitty kiad Chaggon

(01:02:55):
one Men's continue if it had that like tension like
it just it should have that like cross between Assault
on Precinct thirteen and a zombie movie, like it should
like mixing those two vibes. I think would yeah, would
have really been great. It's just you know, I think

(01:03:15):
John Saxson was thrown on the deep end. He immediately
was like, I want to do it. I want to
I want to direct. Let's give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
And then I do want to find out who one
of the homo ebotic vibes. So this is important to me.
I just want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
How do we find out who? Do we email? Oh?
It has to be handwritten, doesn't it for this kind
of an inquiry.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Words from magazines, different letters. I need to know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I need to know who put the gay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Yeah, let's to be like one of those psychotic fan
mail from the nineteen eighties and nineteen ninety like in
The Bodyguard.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
I never did that. I didn't either, all right, I
think Dad will take us to Nestogogia. And this week's

(01:04:27):
guest for Nostalgia of the Week is x con Dwayne
Little d.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Seam ever told you was succulent mouth. It's a good
thing that you used that mouth in your work, because dang,
it'd be a shame to let that go to waste.
My name is Dwyane or Little D because my daddy
is Big D. God Resty saw he died in lawnmow
in accident and not the way you're thinking. But I
just wanted to make that clear that it's not Little

(01:04:55):
D because we're junk is little because it's not. But
you know what, thank you, because bullying grows hair on
your balls. Okay, So that's what made me. What kind
of tough strong man that I am is going through
like Ben called Little D every day. So the nostalgia
I want to talk to you about is this this

(01:05:17):
theory that soap on a rope in prison, when you
drop it, it's bad. I heard all about it when
I was a kid. Everybody said, if you ever go
to prison, don't you drop your soap in the shower.
Well I did, and it was the best thing that
ever happened to me. It changed me for the better.
I'll swear on the Holy Bible on that every day,
Marcus was looking for Jesus and he famid him in
my butthole. We found each other that day and from

(01:05:41):
then on now I was known in the prison as
the prison prize. I was a golden dunglaugh And if
you don't know what that term means in prison, it
means that multiple men tried to fight for the honor
of my butthole, and Marcus protected me, and he won
that honor over and over and over in you now,
I was in for theft and a little bit of

(01:06:02):
drug stuff. But Marcus, he was doing hard times, so
he's still in there. He had to go on without me.
But there's on Christmas that goes by that I don't
cry in the shower and I drop that soap just
to pretend I can feel Marcus breathing on my neck.
And Debbie, she's a good woman. That's my wife, the
mother of my children. She is a good woman, and

(01:06:24):
she doesn't ask me questions about my time with Marcus.
She just accepts that it changed me forever. It made
me a softer man with her. It makes me try
harder to be sensitive with my children. So listen, all
I'm trying to tell you is everything that people tells
you is bad, it ain't that bad, And sometimes something
really beautiful can come out of that ugliness. Back to you, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Now, Okay, I'll do us this week. Yeah, I mean, like,

(01:07:11):
unless you have anything else to say, No, I think
what I love is like I've been where your kids
finally stop screaming now that they were recording, of course,
So I'd like to apologize, formally apologize shoot everyone out
there for my wild kids not taking a nap.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
If you're on the fence and you're considering do I
have kids or don't I have kids, we hope this
episode helped you with your choices. I am like basically
a barren woman. I had trouble getting pregnant and there
were times I felt bad about it, but today really
helped me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
It really helped me get through all of the past
trauma that I've been dealing with.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
It's like, well, then it worked out for the best
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Hey, look that's why I'm daydrinking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Huh Hey, just a little miscarriage talk here for this podcast.
We love you guys. We hope that you come back
and expect more of this genius behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
All right, it's good chatting, good chatting. I'm Jenny Wanger,
I'm Jeremy Brigge. Alright, I need to try to do

(01:09:59):
another thing. They're and crazy I'm sorry. It's ruining, it's
ruining the entire Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
H m h m hm m hm m mmmm. This
just confirms our choices. Gee see all that booze behind him?
Yeah h m hmm