Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989): Is This the Greatest Quest of Them All?

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Opening (00:05):
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Nathan (01:14):
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I am Nathan Shore and accompanying meare the extraordinary movie mavens,
Brianna Budworth and Sam Cole.
Hello.

Sam (01:52):
It's a pleasure to be here.
My, my heart is filled with mirthbecause I just got a new triple A
card in the mail, which will helpmy vehicle for a year to come, baby.
Anyway, off topic, but happy days.

Nathan (02:03):
You are living the life there, Sam.
Living

Sam (02:05):
the life over here.

Nathan (02:07):
Sam and Bea I was talking with someone who Who listens to our show,
but didn't realize that what we dohere is more than just, we rev, review
films, they seem to just listen andthen tap out after our main review.
And so they're not listeningto the whole thing.
There are literally, thousands ofpodcasts out there where you can just
listen to opinions about these movies,but it's always been our intention to

(02:32):
not just give our thoughts on movies.
that we feature each week, but to deliveran entertaining piece of content with
some banter and film recommendations andother things that we do in our lives.
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Trailer (02:53):
It's true.

Nathan (02:53):
Yeah.
Anyways, a few weeks ago, we dida fun game where we did our IMDB
game, which was a lot of fun.
So what I'm basically saying, stick aroundfor the entire episode because it's chock
full of surprises each and every week.
So what I'm going to start doing.
Is giving our listeners like atable of contents every week.
I'm not going to do a long, elaborateintro like I'm doing right now every

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week, but so on today's episode, we'regoing to have a discussion of the film
we're reviewing, make our importantdecisions on whether it deserves to
be saved into the precious confinesof a shelter or eliminated into the
vast wasteland of the pocket fallout.
Then something I think we on thepodcast are going to have a lot
of fun with our listeners at home.

(03:35):
And they'll enjoy, and that's goingto be a Harrison Ford movie draft.
We did this last year, onetime with a 1984 movie draft.
I think we have a lot of fun doing this.
We'd love to know the listenersat home, who you think got the
best draft of the three of us.
And then if time permits, we're going totry to do maybe a weekly highlight where
each of us will share maybe something fromthe last week that we watched or viewed

(03:59):
related to movies or not, it's always fun.
Depends on what we're in the moodfor, but that's what is going
to be on the show this week.
But before we get to that, Ihave a question for my co host.
It's a pretty simple one.
Required some math, but I don't thinkyou're really going to go to math here.
Oh boy.
It's important.
This has some big stakes.

(04:22):
Are you ready?
I'm

Sam (04:23):
scared.

Nathan (04:24):
Okay.
How many?
Reese's Pieces, could you fill theHoly Grail from this movie, this
particular grail that was inside ofthe temple of the sun, of course it's
intended purpose, and we all knowthat Jesus demanded no green M& Ms or
the, some PA's head was going to roll.

(04:47):
There's.
There's actually no real answer to this.
However, I did do a lot of researchon this and it's estimate, and this
is important information so you canmake your best guess and the person
who has the most accurate guess tothis number is going to go first.
First or last, I'm going togo first because only I would

(05:12):
think of such a ridiculous gamewith so much lunacy involved.
So I will go first in a review, but that'show we're going to determine the order.
So whoever gets closestwill go last and so forth.
But anyways, this is theinformation you need to know.
I, it's estimated on the internet.
And by the way, I used six different.

(05:32):
AI chat bots to figureout this information.

Bee (05:35):
Okay.
Okay.

Nathan (05:36):
There are eight ounces of liquid that can fill the
Holy Grail from this movie.
And the average size ofa Reese's Pieces is 0.
7 cubic centimeters.
So knowing that information, how manydo you guess will fill that Holy Grail?

Bee (05:55):
Okay.
You're saying Reese's Pieces,not Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
No, Reese's

Nathan (05:59):
Pieces.

Bee (06:00):
You mean like the little
B, there's a

Nathan (06:04):
Steven Spielberg tie in here.

Sam (06:05):
Reese's peanut butter cups would be like four of them.

Bee (06:07):
Yeah, okay.
I'm just checking.
No,

Sam (06:10):
I know, I'm just, yeah, I hear you.

Bee (06:10):
Okay.

Sam (06:13):
Fuck, I don't

Bee (06:13):
know.
I don't know.
103.

Sam (06:18):
I'm going to say,
so I'm seeing the cup and I'm seeingDouglas Holmes cinematography and
hearing Spielberg's voice, all right,I'm pushing for the dolly shot rah.
Um, um, I would say.
Well,

Nathan (06:45):
you're both pretty far off the actual number that's estimated from
six different AI chat bot things thatI averaged out is 467 based on you're

Bee (07:01):
trying to let the robots take my job.
This

Nathan (07:09):
is how I spent my Sunday doing this.
You're

Bee (07:12):
making me hungry though.

Sam (07:15):
I went again, my instinct was to go higher and there's a scene at the
beginning of Willow when Warwick Davislike doesn't trust his instinct and the
wizard is you should trust your instinct.
So I just can't wait

Bee (07:26):
for the day that you and I get high together and watch Willow
because I know we're both fans, butit comes out at the weirdest time.

Sam (07:33):
Oh God.
Yeah.
I look forward to that as well.
Yeah, it's gonna be good.

Nathan (07:38):
Oh because Sam, you were still the closest.
You are going to go third Sam, Ah, Bea,you're second and I have to go first.
That's my punishment.

Trailer (07:47):
I'm third for the three quo.
Er, back to the frame ratewith a joke saw coming all day.

Bee (07:53):
Oh my god.

Trailer (07:55):
Okay.

Nathan (07:58):
If you hadn't already guessed the film that we are
reviewing this week is Indiana Jonesand the Last Crusade from 1989.
Steven Spielberg, third film in thetrilogy, third film in our quest for
fortune and glory in this retrospective.
Can't wait to talk aboutthis with each of you.
Be the first time you've seen this movie.
First time you've seen any of theseFilms in the Indiana Jones franchise.

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If anybody's tuning in for the first time,but I let's start with a plot synopsis.
Let's pull this up here.
It is.
All right.
And here it is.
The intrepid explorer, Indiana Jones setsout to rescue his father, a medievalist
who has vanished while searchingfor the Holy grail, following clues.

(08:40):
In the old man's notebook, Indy arrivesin Venice, where he enlists the help of a
beautiful academic, but they are not theonly ones on the trail, and some sinister
old enemies soon come out of the woodwork.
A trailer

Sam (09:01):
somewhere.
Hold on.
I'll do the trail.
Dun.
Junior.
Dun.
Yes, sir.
It is you, Junior.
Dun.

Bumper (09:07):
All right.

Sam (09:07):
Here's the trail.
That's great.
We're about to

Bumper (09:09):
complete a great quest.
The Holy Grail.
Dr.
Jones, that's
This

Trailer (09:17):
is it.
Look, the shield is the second marker.

Bumper (09:22):
We found it.
Indiana Jones is on thequest of a lifetime.
But for some adventures,One Jones is not enough.
Dad?
Junior?
Don't call me that, please.

Sam (09:41):
Follow me!
I know the

Bumper (09:44):
way!
Race across three continents.
And in this sort of race, There's nosilver medal for finishing second.
Hang on, Dad!

Trailer (09:58):
Of the enemy, Nazis.
I hate these guys.
Ahhhhh!
Our situation has not improved.
In his search for the holy grail.

Bee (10:17):
How dare you kiss me.
Are

Sam (10:20):
you crazy?!
Don't go between them!
Go between them!
Are you

Nathan (10:28):
crazy?!
Okay.
That's a piece of the trailerfrom The Last Crusade.
Sam, hand it over to you.
Do you have some movie facts for us?

Sam (10:38):
Indeed.
Going right to the tonality ofthis movie this film is Spielberg's
and Lucas's answer and rebuke toIndiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
They go back to a lighter Moreopen aired, much more akin to
Raiders feel with this movie.
This film is obviously directed bySpielberg, Steven Spielberg from a
screenplay by Jeffrey Boehm, who Ibelieve wrote some lethal weapon films.

(11:04):
Two and three, two and three.
Interesting.
And he

Nathan (11:06):
did some other, he did inner space, the lost boys and the dead zone.
So he had a really good track record.
Oh, the lost

Sam (11:14):
boys.
Awesome.
I do the lethal weapon two better thanthree, but that's a side point, but
story by George Lucas and Menno Mayhays.
And this is based on characters byGeorge Lucas and Philip Coffin produced
by Robert Watts which I was actuallyreally happy about because he, I feel
like he was an associate producer.
On a previous installment.
And so I was it was, and I've watchedbehind the scenes all the time and

(11:37):
I just enjoy his general energy.
So I'm happy to see Robert Wattsis like the producer of this movie.
It's just he's

Nathan (11:43):
a fun interview always.
Yeah, he's good.

Sam (11:45):
He's ah, they wouldn't let us shoot that blur, starring Harrison
Ford, Denholm Elliott Alison Doody,John Rhys Davies Julian Glover as
the main villain, and of course, SeanConnery plays Harrison Ford's father.
Fun fact, Sean Connery was only 12 yearsolder than Harrison Ford and so for him
to play his father Yeah, but Harrison

Bee (12:05):
Ford is so hot.

Sam (12:10):
They did a good job making their appear more of an age gap there.
Returning cinematographer DouglasSlacombe, who did the previous
to Indiana Jones, also the thirdone as well, of course, edited
by Spielberg's main collaborator,Michael Kahn music by John Williams.
And this was a big success.
The budget was 48 million.

(12:30):
474 million worldwide.
According to this, I, it says it'sthe biggest film worldwide of 1989.
I thought that was Batman, butI guess, I don't know if it's

Nathan (12:41):
Batman came in number two.

Sam (12:43):
Oh, really?
Wow.
That's amazing.
So yeah, including worldwide gross.
And I always thought it was Batman.
That's impressive.
So yeah, more lightheartedthan the first this.
Had this they really wentglobetrotting this film.
They went to Italy all the desertscenes were shot in Spain Where
they did the scene with a tank?
They went to Petra in Jordan, whichis the like the what's it called?

(13:05):
The Temple of the Sun is it?
That's

Nathan (13:07):
what they call it in the movie and the movie.

Sam (13:09):
Yeah I'm

Nathan (13:11):
blanking what the actual called and it's in the, I'm
blanking now, but I'm sorry.

Sam (13:18):
And just random thing here but the two temple of doom writers, Willard
Huck and Gloria Katz, who collaboratedwith Lucas on American graffiti.
They chose not to return due toboth having other commitments
and feeling satisfied withtheir work in the second film.

Nathan (13:32):
Other commitment was Howard, the duck.

Sam (13:35):
Oh my god, I did not know that.
Wow.
Wow, what a quack.
You gotta get your prioritiesstraight, you know what I gotta say.
Which I feel the difference in thewriting and I actually like Jeffrey
Boehm's script and just, I can feel thetonality difference to what I'm saying.
He, Spielberg this isactually, it was fascinating.

(13:55):
Due to Spielberg's commitment tothis film, he had to drop out of
directing Big and Rain Man, bothfilms, which he was interested in.
I'm, Rain Man by BarryLevinson, I really like.
I, it would have been a totally different,Steven Spielberg had directed that.
It might have been great, I can't evenimagine, but the film that was not to be.
Interestingly enough, Lucas had initiallywanted to do a Haunted House movie.

(14:18):
And Spielberg was not huge on the idea.
But they do incorporate that into thecastle in the film which is on the border
of Germany and and Austria and Austria.
Yeah.
And so they do have sort of sequences.
It's not literally a haunted house,but that's the closest to haunted.
They get Lucas was the one thatwas pushing the idea for the grail.

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And Steven Spielberg was concernedabout that it would come across
too close to Monty Python and theHoly Grail, and that it would be
associated with too much silliness.
It was Spielberg that pushed theidea that the search for the Grail
is the search for the Father.
Spielberg loves this movie becauseof the father son relationship
and the humor and the tone.
And he said before in interviewsthat it's his favorite Raiders film.

(15:03):
He refers to all the IndianaJones movies as Raiders films,
because obviously the first one.
So he likes it a lot.
Temple of Doom is actuallyhis least favorite.
And that's what I've got at the moment.
I'm sure I'm missing, I feela little unprepared tonight.
I was cooking chicken and I burntit, so otherwise I would have had,
what, 20 more minutes of prep.
No,

Nathan (15:21):
that's very good facts you dropped on that, so thank you.
Bea, were you going to say something?

Bee (15:27):
Oh, he said, just Steven Spielberg, it was Temple of
Doom was his least favorite.
It was his

Sam (15:32):
least favorite, yeah.

Nathan (15:34):
I just, upfront, I just want to say that it's so wonderful that
there's the continuity with thesethree movies with, director, producer,
cinematographer, composer, editor.
And of course, you can feelthat you really do feel that,
especially in this third movie Yeah.

Sam (15:54):
Get my Asperger's out.
Fuck, fuck, shit.
No, just kidding.

Nathan (15:58):
Yeah but as I was saying, yeah, you really, as Bea, you also
mentioned, you feel the continuity ofthe cast and crew, both sides of this
camera, you really feel it in this film.
A few things I justwanted to mention here.
You mentioned the budget of 48million in 2024 dollars, that would
be about 121 million if shot today.

(16:19):
Wow.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the 474 million box office.
This was released on May 24th,1989, almost five years to
the day after temple of doom.
That was on May 23rd, if memory serves.
So that I think it's also Memorial.
These traditionally comeout Memorial day weekend.
Do anyone remember what?
Raiders was, I don'tremember offhand of that.

Sam (16:40):
I feel like Raiders opened later in June was the one outlier.
I feel like it was

Bee (16:44):
a summer movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Firmly summer.

Nathan (16:48):
I was also looking at the box office.
I'll do this really quick.
And people that, audience.
Let us know if this box officerundown is dragging or not.
But I love looking at thisbecause I think it gives context.
What was going on in the box officethat weekend in Memorial Day is
always a fascinating weekend for me.
But Indiana Jones debuted at number one,37 million, see no evil, hear no evil.

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And it was third week, 6.
3 million.
Anybody remember?
That's a

Bee (17:12):
fun movie.
Is that the Gene Crowley?
Yeah.

Nathan (17:15):
Yes.

Bee (17:15):
Yes.
It's a great one.

Nathan (17:17):
Feel the dreams in a sixth week of release 5.
6 million.
I love feel the dreams.
Yeah.
Again, rest in peace, James EarlJones, his role in roadhouse
number two, what a great

Bee (17:30):
week.
Yeah.

Nathan (17:33):
Number five, a movie I saw in the theater probably a week
after this was pink Cadillac ClintEastwood movie was in this as well, 4.
4 million.
Number six was canine with 3.
1 million.
I think that's the JamesBelushi police dog movie.

Sam (17:52):
That's right.
And Turner and Hooch with TomHanks came out later that summer.

Nathan (17:55):
Yes, exactly.
This made the box office top 10.
Okay.
Yep.
And in his fifth week of releasein seven number seven in a
sixth week of release, making 2.
5 million was pet cemetery numbereight in its eighth week of release.
1.
4 million was major league movie.
I saw twice in the theater.
I loved it so much because I lovebaseball movies, two baseball movies

(18:18):
in the top 10 this week and dogsrain, man, that number nine this week.
1.
2 million in its 24th week ofrelease and number 10, a movie.
I don't remember at all.
Scandal just made under a million dollars.
I don't know.
I'm sure

Sam (18:35):
that

Nathan (18:35):
is

Bee (18:36):
what's crazy is that outside of.
The second baseball movie and scandal.
I have seen everythingexcept the last crusade
until this week

Nathan (18:51):
at the 62nd Academy Awards.
This was nominated for best score,best sound mixing, but in one best
sound editing, they liked the sound.

Sam (19:03):
And by the way, totally random comment.
This is just me.
I'm like obsessed with the clock,but this last crusade is like,
Between seven and eight minuteslonger than its two predecessors.
Yeah.
Raiders is hour 51, Temple of Doomis hour 53 and Without credits.
Last Crusade is two hours and one minute.

(19:24):
I go, I'm just, I'm obsessivewith, I'm fascinated by time.
But so Raiders, if you really likeIndiana Jones movies, there's more of
Last Crusade, about eight minutes more.
I

Bee (19:36):
think you can feel it.

Sam (19:38):
Yeah.

Nathan (19:39):
So I think we get now to our thoughts on this film.
I guess I'm going to take it away.

Bee (19:47):
Nathan.
All

Nathan (19:47):
right.
I will take it away.
Okay you know something?
I'm gonna say something I thoughtwould never come out of my mouth.

Bee (19:57):
Is this your

Nathan (19:58):
favorite?
And it's not really a hot take,but typically for people of my
generation, this may be blasphemy.
I think Indiana Jones andthe Last Crusade, Is the
best film in this franchise.
Yeah, I've heard that a lot from people.
And after watching his firstthree movies my entire life, it

(20:19):
doesn't mean that it's my favorite.
It's teetering, but I thinkthis is by far the most put
together film in the franchise.
Actually still, it might be my favorite,but I think it may, maybe that I'm
looking at this with, shall we say,there's some personal baggage as well,

(20:43):
as I watch these first day films.
I think it's obvious we're goingback to the Raiders of the Lost Ark
of it all, and it has all the feels.
Of great action and locationset pieces that Raiders had.
It's got that mystery.
It's got great villains, but alsocrusade gives us, I think, a version

(21:04):
of Indie we've never seen before.
And it does this in a coupleof ways, two ways, basically.
And first, we got that great.
Prologue.
I think it's great.
Some people don't like it.
They find it fan service y, but Istill think it's a wonderful opening.
And it does this with an, but alsodoes this with incredible father
son storyline, which makes Indymore than just an action hero.

(21:28):
It transforms him into acharacter with real emotions.
In Paraders and in Temple of Doom, heis, I feel like he's strictly an action
hero and he's Given so much more to feelin this movie, the father son storyline
gives Indy emotional vulnerability, makinghim more than a archetypal action hero.

(21:54):
It turns them into someone that wecan all relate to someone dealing with
unresolved family issues, longing forvalidation and ultimately finding peace.
And in that relationship rather than thetreasures that he's seeking and to keep,
to keep the short I love all the coursecorrection that Spielberg and his team are

(22:17):
doing with this film after temple of doom.
The comedy in this film is great.
Connery and Ford's chemistry is amazingand surprising because on paper.
This shouldn't work.
Neither of Con neither Conneryand Ford are known for their
comedic chops and their timing,but somehow, It's amazing how

Sam (22:37):
good they just, their dynamic, like, how the f I'm like, when
you see it, it's my god, theseguys really are great actors.
They come off as

Nathan (22:45):
Like a comedy team that could go on the road.
They're that good.
I, you would never think ofthese guys as non comedic actors.
This is the funniest HarrisonFord movie ever by a long stretch.
And this is not really a straight forward.
Actually it is a comedy.
It's an action comedy.
It really is.
But he's never been this funny.
He's never had this great comedic time.

(23:08):
The, comedic timing.
I have a lot more to say about this, butalso the, I'm happy they shifted away
from slapstick humor and more towardsite gags in general, funny banter.
I think was the right choice.
There are a few nitpicksI have in this movie, but.
It's just a stellar entry in thisfranchise, in this movie, more than

(23:30):
ever, I think from where I am in life,means the world to me, and I will talk
more about why that is in a little bit.
This is a five star movie.

Bee (23:41):
I love it.
Yeah, we're so back.
Yes, I.
Loved this movie.
I thought I was just so happy watching itthe whole time I was screening ear to ear.
I think you're right.
It is an adventurecomedy, an action comedy.
I think this is a wonderful, delightful,and whimsical blend of camp, And

(24:06):
action that we don't get to see alot and it nearly crosses the line
into being too much a few times andthere's it perfectly reigns itself back
and I think it just toes that line.
The entire time we're backwith amazing set pieces.
I loved that intro.

(24:27):
With the circus and the railroadcars, a bittersweet reveal for
me with it being river Phoenix.
I didn't know.
Yeah.
I was like, Oh my God.
And, but over and over this movie setsup Indy, the idea of India, someone who
might not always be a good guy, but who'salways doing it for the right reasons.

(24:48):
And we see that.
I think the prologue setsthat up really beautifully.
It's a great sequence.
It's really fun.
It's action packed and also rightaway you see the score is going to
be for me the best of the three.
I had a wonderful time listeningto the John Williams score.

(25:08):
It felt like we were moving again.
My big issue with Temple of Doom isyou take this great action adventure
hero and you put him in a hauntedhouse and it felt claustrophobic and it
felt like it dragged on for too long.
Great to be out in the wild again,sprawling and traveling and seeing Indy
challenged in element after element,not just tortured in a haunted house.

(25:32):
That was really fun.
And the casting is spot on.
Like you mentioned, Nathan, there'sshe talks in her sleep, might
be one of the best line reads.
I It was so much fun.
Sean Connery turns the everyman thatWillie was in the last movie on its head.
He's not helpless.
He, in fact, is the helper.

(25:53):
And he gets Indy where heneeds to be in the end.
I think Elsa's a great turncoat.
That is, I love that every timein this movie when there's a love
interest, we get a totally differentdimension and type of woman.
That's just a treat for me.
We get to see John Rhys Davisagain, that's incredible.
Sorry, I feel like I'mtaking forever on this one.
I just, I love, I loved this movie and Ilike, The connection that Spielberg and

(26:21):
Lucas are drawing with the with the HolyGrail and that sort of search for purity
in intention that becomes, that later youcan backfill to Temple and to Raiders.
For me, it's a four and a half.
I think Raiders hit the five star markfor me, but I thought this was wonderful.

Nathan (26:41):
All right.
Thank you.
Great.
Sam.

Sam (26:43):
I agree with everything you guys said.
I love the movie.
Few interesting things.
When they did a first cut of the filmSpielberg felt, That there wasn't enough
action or he felt not, or what he saidwas he felt that we weren't giving them
as much action as the audience expected.
So that motorcycle chase right after theyget out of the castle, that motorcycle

(27:03):
chase was done after the fact in MarinCounty, California, right near Lucas
Valley ranch, and it's excellent.
And it's perfect thatchase happened there.
Cause I think what originally would havehappened is that you just see that get gag
where the Nazis are going into the boatand they like zoom by in the motorcycle
and knock those two guys into the water.

(27:24):
I think that was the original cut.
And I'm so glad they added a chase there.
I love the movie a lot.
I, it is really.
If you go online and look at debates,if they're like ranking Indiana
Jones films, Last Crusade and Raidersare always neck and they're both so
good that it's really hard to sayone is much better than the other.

(27:46):
If for me personally, I think just becauseRaiders was the first and it introduced
this type of like modern action adventure,Raiders to me has the slightest edge.
But I love Sean Conner in this movie.
I love the characterlike their relationship.
They seem not only is there, isit comedic, but they seem like.
A real father and son.

(28:07):
And I like how annoyed like Harrison getsat his dad and he's come on, dad, come on.
It's just so realistic.
And I appreciate that a lot more now.
This was the first IndianaJones I saw in the theater.
It was like the last day of first grade.
I was like eight years old.
So I went to see it with mydad and like a matinee show.
Just amazing.
Obviously as an eight year old, I'mnot going to get a joke about Get,

(28:29):
understand the joke of Andy and hisfather sleeping with the same woman.
That's something, figured out later on.
And but like the visuals, the geniusof Spielberg is like, love that movie
as a little kid, and obviously Icouldn't pick up on everything I picked
up on now, but I could pick up on thevisuals and the movement of the story.

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And it was just wildly entertaining.
There's so much

Nathan (28:52):
momentum in this movie.

Sam (28:53):
There's so much momentum.
They're moving.
I think I to me, I feel like this is moreof a bit more of a chase film where like
Raiders, I like how Raiders spends a lotmore of its time at the Tannis dig site.
Like I like that mid section.
This movie is more like,like globetrotting adventure.
I love it.

(29:14):
I would say if I wasbeing nit pieces, I don't.
Some of the set pieces Ilike better than others.
For some reason it's clever and I likethe thing with the boat propeller, but
the boat chase in Venice, I've alwaysthought that's good, but it doesn't
for it for some, for other set pieces.
I put that, that more lower on the bar.
But what makes the movie and whatelevates it and what this movie

(29:38):
needs is a an incredible set piece.
And I think the tank.
Rivals, the truck chase inRaiders of the Lost Ark.
They're both about eightand a half minutes long.
All the stuff that happens on thetank, all the, that's amazing.
Them escaping the fireplace withthe revolving door is amazing.
So when the set pieces are at theirbest, they're incredible in this film.

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I think everything looks good.
Like the catacombs under Venice.
I just the, this movie has a very.
epic feel because they're like literallygoing after the holy grail and it's
like dangerous and far away in a canyonin the desert and i love the climax
when they're in that place and theyhave those three challenges i mean i
think the breath of god the word ofgod the path of god My favorite is when

(30:24):
Indy literally has to jump into thatimpossible chasm on a leap of faith.
And I was

Bee (30:31):
on the edge of my seat.
That was so well done.
I was so tricked by

Sam (30:37):
no, it was incredible.
And but the stakes are sohigh at the end of that movie.
It's like his, he is justrekindled with his father and
his father's life is on the line.
He has no choice.

Nathan (30:47):
That's what's great about it.
You've added the tickingclock element into this.
It's not about Indygetting the holy grail.
There's major stakes to this becauseof that, the urgency now, it's a
brilliant, it's a brilliant move, major

Sam (31:01):
stakes, incredible.
And this is a piece of set design.
I have always been obsessedwith like cliffs and

Nathan (31:06):
not just like world saving stakes, it's personal stakes, personal

Sam (31:10):
stakes.
Yeah.
It's like character driven stakes.
Yeah.
I think.
I don't know why I'm obsessed withit, but that cliff that Indy has to
do the leap of faith on, the shotwhere he comes out and you're looking
down at the blackness of that cliff,that place was epically terrifying.
That temple and those challengeshas the most supernatural,
spiritual, otherworldly depth.

(31:31):
dangerous feel to it in these, in justthat places in my, I love the night.
I love the humor.
I liked the Sean Connery gets tomeet the night because his academic
quest is fulfilled and he, they can'tcross the seal, but he waves him.
The ending is just perfect.
It's epic.
I would give it four and a half.
I just, because Raiders has thatedge, but like I can arguably see

(31:53):
this as a better movie than Raiders.
That's why it's a challengefor me because I just, for me,
it's just Raiders being first.
But to your point, Nathan, one thing Ithink Spielberg or the cinematographer
said in this film, because of itspersonal character driven nature,
there are a lot more closeups ofIndiana Jones, like extreme closeups
on his face and his father face.

(32:14):
He's not in as many closeupsin the first two films.
There'll be closeup shots, but it'smore like wide or him talking to
people in last crusade is a very,is the most personal of the three.
And I can honestly see why Spielbergat that time wanted to end it there.
Cause it's like the perfect trilogy ender.
It's just perfect.
It is, it

Bee (32:34):
sticks the landing more than the other two.

Sam (32:37):
It really, they literally ride off into the sunset in the last shot.
How perfect is that?
They're riding into the sunset.
That's the shot.
They actually ride toward it.
It's And it also gets

Bee (32:46):
your comeuppance, which I really liked.

Sam (32:47):
Exactly.
Yeah.
I love the ground splitting apart therewith all the I remember being a little
depressed after I saw the movie whenI was a kid because I was so blown
away by Indiana Jones's adventures.
I was like, Dad, I wantto go on adventures.
Like, how do I get to do that?
And he was like it's a movie, but yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Nathan (33:03):
Yeah.
There's a point I, I was thinkingabout as I'm watching this, that it
stuck to my ribs as I, I couldn'tshake there is a divine force that
seems to be watching over Indy.
And I love that the film isacknowledging that in this moment.
In, in, in this version, in, in this filmhere because Indie this film is in, on

(33:26):
the joke through the first two movies.
No matter what shenanigans befallhim, he's going to be okay.
And it's not just that this movie'sacknowledging that there's a
mystical presence or maybe it's aguardian angel that is with him.
And it's going to throw back hishat at the end of the scene as well.
And this movie is in, isfinally in on the joke.

(33:48):
It knows who the audienceis and what it is.
And it's for the first time, Ifeel like it's really comfortable
in its shoes and it knows how to.
Write the perfect movie that isaddressing that because I, and I
love how it's embracing kind of theridiculousness in a lot of ways that
this guy's gonna be okay no matter what.

(34:09):
He's not gonna fall off a cliff and thehat's gonna blow right into his hand.
He's gonna fall, jump into the water, andhis hat's gonna float right over to him.
And we, I love when this

Sam (34:18):
hat just blows back in the ciid

Nathan (34:20):
and we think nothing of it because that's just.
He is just always going to have thatkind of luck or a guardian angel
or something or God or whatever.

Bee (34:31):
He's a very like faith based filmmaker.
And I think he does a great job inthis blending the ridiculousness.
That is faith sometimes,

Sam (34:41):
but, and you talk about the humor or like his faith or Indiana Jones always
had, like having divine interception.
I love it when he like survives the tankthing and his father's happy to see him.
But Denholm Elliott is likestanding in the background didn't
he just fall off the cliff?
He's he can't, he's like,how did that he, they're
acknowledging how ridiculous it is.

Nathan (35:01):
I will say I wasn't.
necessarily thrilled with what they didwith the Denholm Elliot character in this.

Sam (35:07):
I feel like they turned him into a total doofus, he's
not a doofus in the first one.
Yeah, he's

Nathan (35:13):
not.
And I think the movie needed thatkind of comic relief, but he really
is a bumbling buffoon in this movie.

Sam (35:21):
And the moment that gets a huge laugh I will, cause I saw it, my,
it's not even a complaint, but Isaw this movie way too many times.
I love it, but I almost know it toowell, but I, in the theater, what
always got laughs is when it's thecameras pushing in on Indiana Jones.
He's Brody, you'll never find him.
He'll blend in, disappear with any luck.
He's got the grail already.

(35:41):
And then it just cuts to Marcus Brody.
He's Oh, does anyone interpret it?
I speak ancient Greece.

Nathan (35:46):
I have to say it is my, one of my favorite quotes from this movie.
I did capture that audio and I wantto play it because this just speaks
to the quality of the writing andthe comedy in this, which is so much
better than the Temple of Dubai.
Oh, let me play it here.

Trailer (36:01):
He's given them to Marcus Brody.

Sam (36:03):
Marks.
He didn't drag poor Marcus along, did you?
He's not up to the challenge.
He sticks out

Trailer (36:09):
like a sore thumb.
We'll find him.
That hell you will.
He's got a two day head start onyou, which is more than he needs.
Brody's got friends in every townand village from here to the Sudan.
He speaks a dozen languages,knows every local custom.
He'll blend in, disappear,you'll never see him again.
With any luck, he's got the grill already.

Bee (36:30):
Does anyone See, I thought that was Indy bluffing, I thought he yeah.
He's

Nathan (36:37):
totally

Bee (36:37):
bluffing.
He knows, he's just trying to throw the

Sam (36:40):
Nazis off.
You know what's interestingtoo, I feel like It's a bit

Nathan (36:42):
later, it's a bit later where he's talking to his dad like, yeah,
he'd get lost in his own museum.
He tells his dad that, yeah.
What's

Sam (36:48):
interesting with this movie Like Raiders, Spielberg himself actually
seems more interested in the story as adirector, so when there's like expository
dialogue, when they're explaining things,there's like, when he's with Donovan at
that like cocktail party, they talk aboutthe plot and they talk about how to find
the grail and it's very focused on it.
In Temple of Doom, Every time there'splot forwarding moments Spielberg was

(37:12):
always undercutting it with Oh, here'ssome gross out comedy or here's someone

Nathan (37:16):
God.
Yes.

Sam (37:18):
And Raiders and crusade.
They actually they focus on the Theylet the story, they don't, when it
comes to expository dialogue, theydon't, the movie doesn't like try
to make you not pay attention to it.
It just focuses on it.
And it in and of itself is interesting.

Nathan (37:34):
I'm so glad you brought this up, Sam, because this is something I
wanted to mention the last two movies,and I kept forgetting to do so because
in Raiders of the Lost Ark, there'sa very important expository dialogue
that happens where they're talkingabout where the Nazis are digging.
And it's something that I.
Always never really paid attentionto because at the same time it's

(37:55):
when Indy has the poison dateand all you're doing is watching.
Is he going to eat the date?
Is he going to eat the date?
But him and Sal are talkingabout where they're digging.
The Nazis are digging in thewrong place in the back of the

Bee (38:07):
coin.

Nathan (38:08):
Exactly.
And I have, I had to watch itprobably like 15 times to start paying
attention to that bit of dialogue.
The other thing in temple of doomThere's this whole conversation about
the thuggy cult happening at the dinnerthat I'm not paying attention to because
I'm watching all the gross out foodthat's happening, but there's a lot of
information going on at that scene that noone's paying attention to in this movie.

(38:33):
One of my biggest complaints was thatthey're dumping all this expository
dialogue, and no one's paying attentionto it because don't listen to this.
Look at this.

Sam (38:41):
I think Spielberg himself said too, that like he, he often
he'll do a lot of meticulousstoryboarding on action sequences.
He did a lot less storyboardingwith Temple of Doom.
He said that he was underuncomfortable with the darker nature
of the story, and he didn't quitetonally feel comfortable with it.
So he said that he went out of his way.

(39:03):
To interject as much humor as hecould to lighten up the movie.
And you can see those tones atodds with each other in that film.
Whereas this film, the wit and theaction, it's like, it feels just like
everyone's on the same page this go roundjust, and I thought I was, I forgot.

Bee (39:21):
I think that speaks to the comfort.
That you mentioned earlier, Nathan,there's just this, we've lived in
this character's skin, everyone who'sworked on this movie has followed
along and grown with the characterand thought about the character and
they're growing in the same direction.
And there's a confidence And storytellingthat comes from that, I think that

Sam (39:44):
like tank chase, it means a lot because it's just that this movie has
that desert, like a B you talked aboutin the first film, how everyone's
like really dirty and grimy and dusty.
Like

Bee (39:54):
the 80s were the sweatiest time to make

Sam (39:56):
this film goes back to that, like the dirt and the light.
Desert and like vehicleskicking up dust and horses.
It's got that it's back to that.
That third act really helps make the moviefor me because to the grandeur of it.
I love everything else, but Ilove how big the ending gets.
It's just their quest.
It's huge.
Yeah.

Nathan (40:17):
Yeah.
Man, what else?
I actually have some thoughtson the ending and you might not.
Like all my comments on it, butI don't want to jump there yet.
Cause there's a few things I thinkis also important to mention that,
the course correction with the lesseremphasis on blood and gore is a big thing.
It's funny that temple doom is rated PG.
This was PG 13 and there is not.

(40:39):
Barely a trace of blood in this movie.
I think the only blood we seemight be on River Phoenix's chin
in the beginning of this movie.

Sam (40:46):
It might just be the anxiety that like all the decapitated
heads in this movie might bring.
That could be it.
Like a

Nathan (40:53):
lot of people, perhaps.
But.
I, so there's that.
What else?

Sam (40:58):
I will say one nitpicky thing, and this is just I totally love
this movie, but I wanted to, Nathan,you know how you'll sometimes talk
about okay, so I've never noticedthis ever watching it before, but
when they're tied up to the chair.
In the castle.
Yep.
And he's let's me kill them now.
And then Elsa's no, they might be useful.
They all leave the room.
There's no guard.
Like they just left them there.
What's that was a little bitlike, that's a little convenient.

(41:19):
There's little

Bee (41:20):
plot holes like that.
Like in the.
Airport or like off the blimp orwhatever, when they punch the guy.
And then it's that's neverreally followed up on.
There's some stuff like that.
That just doesn't comeall the way full circle.
It doesn't distract me, but I noticed it.
This was the first time I,

Nathan (41:37):
go ahead, Sam.

Sam (41:38):
Oh, no, I was gonna say, I know it's meant as like comedy, but with the
first time when he like bumps into AdolfHitler in the theater, I was terrified
because I was like, Oh my God, he's goingto like, take, he's going to find out
who it is that he signs his autograph.
And you're like, Oh, like that,that, that scene is tense.
But it was funny

Nathan (41:54):
going back to the blimp for a moment.
This was the first time I noticed,and this was like probably looped in
dialogue in post that Indy destroyedthe radio on the Zeppelin afterwards.
I never heard picked up in that.
Yes.
I noticed that too.
Yes.
And because I always waswondering how stupid, like this
doesn't make any sense at all.
If he's throwing general Vogel.

(42:16):
Out of the Zeppelin, why isthe Zeppelin still taking off?
Like, why aren't they likecalling the come back?
Like, why is it taking them likea half hour to figure this out?
And I never picked up on that, that loopedin dialogue when they're going through
the belly of the Zeppelin afterwardsuntil until this past week, like 30.
I know

Sam (42:36):
It's amazing.
Like I've noticed little bits of dialoguethat like the first time watching
temple recently, I actually did notfocus on all the gross out stuff and I
listened to the expository dialogue andthey explained a lot about the thuggy.
I was like, man, I'dnever knew that before.
This is only my 40th time watchingthis movie, but I hear that.
I, and, but there'slittle things like that.
I love it when Sean Connery shootsthe tail of the plane, but when it

(42:59):
shows the wide shot of the plane.
Yes.
The tail's fine.
Like it's,

Nathan (43:03):
by the way, there are like four major action set pieces in this film.
There's like the boat chase,there's the motorcycle chase.
There's the plane dogfight in the tank chase.
The plane dog fight.
It's really cool.
And I love the banterbetween him and his dad, but.
It looks awful.
Like those hats, they couldn'tbother to have like even the

(43:24):
tiniest little fan blowing themto show that there is some wind.
I

Bee (43:29):
was just watching this so happy because I was like, man,
these guys fucking love planes

Nathan (43:34):
like

Bee (43:34):
their

Nathan (43:35):
hats off or something, because it just, it shows that
they are clearly not fine.
And the funny thing is.
Steven Spielberg did another movieinvolving planes that same year, and that,
those flying sequences look a lot better.

Sam (43:48):
Yeah, they're, yeah, no, exactly, that was Christmas 89, that's incredible
that's Ellie's favorite movie, sorry,sorry Ellie, I couldn't resist but yeah
but even in 1989, That plane chase wasvery entertaining, but even as a kid,
it looked, I could feel like I couldn'tarticulate it back then, but it looked a
little wonky, but I like, I do love the,yeah, I love it when like the Nazi flies

(44:10):
into the, under the bridge and like clipshis wings and just slides past them on
like under the top of those hilarious.
That was

Nathan (44:16):
amazing.
I know you mentioned the tankchase, but like you said, I love
that you said that tank chase ison par with the chase in Raiders.
I think I agree.
And Harrison Ford ridinga horse, chasing down.
I think, my God is Is there a better,is there a more natural combination
of two mammals on screen with,

Bee (44:35):
I can't think of, I can't think of it.
You are forgetting about onegreat set piece though, Nathan.
And it's the first oneit's with River Phoenix.

Nathan (44:44):
It is great.
It is great.
That's amazing.
I

Bee (44:47):
love you get so much good backstory not to drag us all the way
back to the beginning, but there'sso much good stuff that happens.
Yeah, I'm taking us along.
Learning that Indy gets the scaron his chin from fighting a lion.
That's pretty cool.
Perfect.
And I just the whole circuscar chase I thought was great.
And then getting to see his dad andhow that sets all that up was perfect.

Sam (45:11):
Yep.
I also love the opening shotof the mountain, like the
Paramount logo on the mountain.
The movie starts like I just love thevariety of Indiana Jones movies opening.
Cause it depends on what mood you're in.
If you want like a big splashynightclub scene, go see Temple.
If you want this epic desert, beautifulshots in Utah and there's always,
there's like singing at the beginning.

(45:32):
I don't know if it's, if that'slike the Boy Scouts or like Native
Americans in the background.
I never knew what that was.
Cindy

Bee (45:37):
was a Boy Scout.

Sam (45:39):
No, but there's there's audio at the beginning and there's
like singing and drums that youcan hear behind the mountain.
And I've always loved that.
I never know what that was supposedto be, but it sounded cool.
I can't wait

Bee (45:48):
to rewatch these movies because you, sometimes you both say stuff
about them and I'm like, there's somuch I'm sure I'm not picking up on.

Nathan (45:57):
I want to talk a couple of things about the end because I do have
a couple of nitpicks with the end.
I love this movie through andthroughout, but there's a couple
of silly things at the end here.
Donovan and Elsa enter this chamber.
First of all, they're ignoring this700 year old man dressed like a knight,
just, chilling there and maybe talkto that guy for a minute or two.

(46:18):
I don't know.
He might have something.
They're Nazis, Nathan.
They're bad people.
I know, but it's, it makes,paints them as just not very.
Interesting villains, they're not,and here's what silly is that Donovan
goes through the effort of sendingin his minions into these trials
one at a time to you do this so thatI don't die, but he so cavalierly

(46:43):
drinks from the grail, and Wait, so

Sam (46:47):
you mean when they enter the grail room as villains, they just seem like dumb
or cartoonish or I didn't quite understand

Nathan (46:54):
what I'm saying, what I'm trying to say is maybe I didn't explain it
properly because I do that a lot of times,but Donovan is sending in all his minions
and Nazi soldiers in one at a time intothe trial, like the first one, the breath
of God, and they're beheading them oneat a time and that's smart, don't do it
himself, he's sending in other people.

(47:14):
To do it, which is also weird.
It's not about thepenitent man must kneel.
The penitent man must kneel and roll,which is, I don't know if that's
supposed to be, but anyways, so he,but once Indy goes through, apparently
that trial has been triggered.
You don't have to ever do it again.
He's able to do somehow.

(47:34):
He also knows he can do the word of God.
I guess he heard Indy.
His dad tell him how to do that partabout, Jehovah, he, even though Indy
did the bridge, he was able to do that.
I know he put some pebbles and stuffover it, but he didn't, he only did
like the first five or seven feet of it.

(47:55):
And that's like a 30 foot bridge.
And he was, he would still do that.
But even after he gets to the Knightschamber, he gets in there and.
He is so cavalier about, I can't decideand else's Oh, I'll choose for him.
Maybe not.
Maybe I'll have one ofthese other guys do it.

Sam (48:19):
In that moment.
Yeah,

Nathan (48:21):
exactly.
And I'm like, it's just turnedhim into such a stupid character.
I get it.
I get it.
It's great for the film.
But when I thought about it,I was like, you know what?
It's just, it just doesn't work.
They needed it for the story, butit's a, I always thought I always

Sam (48:36):
had this like alternate hilarious ending in my head where the night is
so glad that someone's there that likethe night runs away and Indiana Jones
is forced to be the new guardian.
So he's just stuck in thatroom for the rest of his life.
And like the movie ends witha taciturn Harrison Ford, like
sitting on the night's chair.
And he's just shit, and then thecamera pulls back and that's it.

(48:56):
I

Nathan (48:56):
just feel bad.
They fucked up thatnight's house, like I know

Sam (49:01):
she's still stuck there alive, technically forever.
And like his place.
I was like, do

Bee (49:06):
we think it reset?
He doesn't

Nathan (49:09):
have the grail anymore, does he?
The grail fell into the pit.
It's just that it's still there.
It's on that ledge.

Bee (49:13):
It fell underneath.
It's just,

Nathan (49:15):
so the knight can just swoop down and go get it, put it back, you think?

Bee (49:17):
It's I don't know, it's still on the foundation, that would be such an

Sam (49:20):
inappropriate mood killer if, after the end credits, it cuts back to the grail
on the ledge and you see the knight reachfor it, but he just falls in and he's

Nathan (49:28):
Does the knight, does the knight die?
Yeah.
I

Sam (49:30):
feel like the grail force field is still protecting that area.
So I think he's just stuck there andhe's got all the time in the world.
So he can slowly chiselaway at that pillar.
That's like blocking the exit.
He's got some, he's got somemaintenance jobs to do in there.

Nathan (49:46):
The last thing I just want to say, I think these, we talked about.
The scene where Elsa is hanging fromIndy's hand and soon falls and Indy takes
her place and his dad is holding him forme is the most important scene in this
entire
film because throughout we've been told that Henry only cares about

(50:08):
the grail and his son is secondary.
That's what the essence of whatwe've been led, what's going on here.
And Indy desperately wants to havehis dad's approval and affection.
And he has that opportunity tograb the grail and his father
calls out, Indiana, let it go.
And in that instant, Henry is bothacknowledging that It's not worth it, but

(50:35):
you are, and basically you're not definedby your treasures, but by being my son.
And in that instant, like alltheir shit is resolved and it's
such a great bit of writing.
It's a great moment.

Sam (50:49):
And it's the first time he calls him Indiana in the whole movie.
He's always called him junior.
So it's it's, I have literallyjust said the same thing.
Spielberg loves the scene.
And I think he.
Yeah.
Loves the movie becausethat moment like just

Bee (51:04):
it's this is a great double feature with the Fableman's

Nathan (51:07):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Sam (51:09):
Interesting.
Yeah.
I love

Nathan (51:10):
it.
He's working out a lot of stuff.
A lot of issues.
Daddy issues.
For sure.

Bee (51:15):
A lot of his movies have big child of divorce energy,

Nathan (51:18):
Yeah.
You know what?
There is, there's anotherclip that I want to play here.
Then we could probably take a break here.
Okay.
I know we're going backwardsfrom the climax of this movie
here, but there's such a, there'sa lot of subtle moments here.
I love all the quiet dialogue that Indyand his dad have, and there's the great
scene on the Zeppelin, but there's thescene also where after the tank falls down

(51:41):
and Henry thinks he lost his son and hehas that scene where I think I thought
I lost him and all that and he sees thatHe lived we already talked about this a
little bit You But for a few seconds, hebecomes his father and he hugs him and.
It's one of the, it's such a greatmoment where Indiana Jones, he smiles

(52:02):
and he's being embraced by his dad.
And honestly, it's the first time I watchthis movie where I actually started to
cry because I know that feeling, to seekthat affection from someone and then.
Five seconds later, it's like back towork, and it's almost I didn't mean to
get that sentimental, so it's such, itwas a home hitting moment in a lot of

(52:25):
ways for me, but yeah but that was theessence of this whole movie and then
it culminates in that ending, but yeah.

Bee (52:31):
It's a perfect ending.
It's, like I said, the endingout of the three that sticks
the landing for me the most.
Especially, I really didn'tlike the ending of Temple, and I
think this is so much stronger.
It does a couple things.
What you're talking about withthe father and son relationship,
Nathan, I think is spot on.
It's so validating, not just that theyfind each other and have affection for

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each other despite their differences, buthow they're two pieces of a puzzle, and
their work complements each other so well.
That they are that they work together.
And that they're this greatcombination and that together
they can solve these problems.
And I like that the diary is thesort of prop throughout the film

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that tells the story of distanceand then bring each other closer.
And then it's just a tool that's used,pages are ripped out, but that bond is
still the same and that togetherness.
And you get such great storytelling atthe end because you see Elsa fall and
you see her It comes back to intentionagain, and yes, it's the moment of

(53:37):
Sean Connery Henry saying, Indiana.
It's I choose you.
You're my priority over this, but it'salso the character development for Indy.
It's what we get to see him grow as toand saying, I'm going to put family first
and the intention behind this first.

Sam (53:57):
Also, one quick thing that I was just thinking that I really like, but
the story structure is even though theMacGuffin is the grail, I like cleverly
doing the script where it's like thediary, but Brody has the map, but they
go back to Berlin just to get the diary.
It's not quite straightforward.
And I like the twists andturns are entertaining there.

Bee (54:18):
Some great accoutrements.

Nathan (54:20):
Great accessories.
Yeah.
This movie is just so smart, lean,and we're gonna wrap this up.
I, one of the things Ithink just makes this.
Just wonderful filmmaking being the thirdfilm in this franchise is that The things
that were, Already familiar, so familiarwith the Indy character in the universe.
We, we don't have to keepseeing over and over.

(54:42):
Like for instance, what I'm trying tosay is like when they get to Berlin
and Indy overtakes a guard to get hisuniform, we actually only see a quick
moment of some feet being dragged.
It, Indy steps outdressed as a Nazi soldier

Sam (54:56):
and the camera passes by their motorcycle.
And it's just Oh, they're here.
And they punched a guy out.
Got it.
Yeah.
Okay.

Nathan (55:02):
We can fill in the gaps we've already seen so many times
having watched him sneak up onenemies and do this sort of thing.
It saves us from having to watch it again.
That's keeping this, themomentum moving forward.
We can picture it in our mind'seye, how that exchange went down.
Spielberg was smart enough totrust the audience did not have

(55:23):
to show us another instance of.
Indy sneaking up on somebody andpunching him and taking him out.
We didn't need another fight sequence.
We got what we needed toin those little moments.
So it is it's really well done.
Yeah.
I don't have anything else.
I don't know about you guys.

Bee (55:40):
It was great.
It's a good movie.

Nathan (55:44):
All right.
Let's take a quick break.
So thanks everyone for joining us.
We appreciate you to the Maximus.
Don't let the theme of our show fool you.
We are all about connecting with ourlisteners and we'd love to hear your
thoughts on the films we discuss.
If you've seen Indiana Jones andthe last crusade and want to share

(56:07):
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That is the best way ofhelping us grow our fan base.
So we would appreciate it.
Okay.
So we're going to come back andget to our decisions on whether
Indiana Jones and the last crusadeis going to be saved in a vault.
For future generations arepurged into the fiery apocalypse.

(57:16):
Seems like there might not be a lotof suspense here, but I will go first.
Cause I went first on my review.
I, like I said before, if I thinkthis is a better movie than Raiders
of the Lost Ark, and I said thatwas a perfect film, then absolutely.
This movie has to be saved.
If these were the only two Indiana Jonesmovies ever made, then they would be.

(57:37):
That's all I would ever need.
Yes, this movie must be savedin our vault, a hundred percent.

Bee (57:46):
Yeah.
I totally agree.
I, I was a little on the fence earlierbecause Raiders is just such a perfect all
encapsulating film, but this movie justtouches on so much character development
that I do think if you're going tohave multiple Indiana Jones movies in
the vault, these are the two to have.
The differences are important enough.

(58:07):
So it's a yes for me.

Nathan (58:08):
But B, you haven't seen Crystal Skull yet, so we don't know.

Bee (58:12):
Sure.
Maybe we can have three.
I don't know.
My mind's open.
I know literally nothing about it.
Are there still Nazis?
I don't know.

Sam (58:23):
We shall find out.

Bee (58:25):
Okay.
I was surprised to see them back.
I was like, ooh.

Sam (58:28):
Though I truly love this movie, I don't, I would not include it in the
vault just because, no I'm kidding,I would put it in the vault, yeah.

Bee (58:36):
I totally believed you, Sam.
Me too.
Yeah, I was like, alright.

Nathan (58:41):
You should trade a fuck with us.

Sam (58:43):
Yeah, pretty much.
But I can't say, yeah, like I agree.
It's if I, it's almost as good asRaiders, it's of course, like I
can't, I also, when it comes to, ifwe did the Star Trek franchise, I'd
be doomed because I'm a completionist.
So even the shitty ones, likeI need to have all of them
on a shelf so I can have the.
To choose.
If one movie's missing, as terribleas it is, that's the one I'm going to

(59:04):
want to watch because it's not there.

Nathan (59:09):
All right.
That was, I think, that was areally good discussion of this film.
Thanks.
That was Thanks guys.
All right.

Bee (59:16):
I'm so glad.
Something that will never happen.

Sam (59:18):
Oh, no, what were you going to say?

Bee (59:19):
I was just going to say, I'm so glad to be watching these finally.
And.
Thanks, guys, for going along anddoing a rewatch for me, because
I really wanted to see these.
It

Nathan (59:30):
only gets better from here.

Sam (59:34):
It's true, and one thing that will probably never happen on the show, but
if you want to talk bad threequels, ifwe did threequels from 1983, we could do
Jaws 3D and Smokey and the Bandit Part 3.
Awful movies.
That'll never happen, butlisteners stay tuned for when

Bee (59:50):
we're
all together to watch Jaws next year.

Nathan (59:54):
Let's get this in the room.
I almost forgot to do this.
Here we go.

Bumper (01:00:07):
All right.

Sam (01:00:08):
Junior.

Bumper (01:00:09):
All

Nathan (01:00:13):
right.
It is time to get to our HarrisonFord movie draft and check out
my snazzy new movie draft bumper.

Bumper (01:00:24):
Truth wise, you take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland and I
show you how to beat the radicals.
I reprogrammed the simulation soit was possible to rescue the ship.
What?
You cheated.
I don't like to lose.
Come on.

Sam (01:00:40):
Yes.
I I am all about Captain Kirk fromStar Trek 2, The Wrath of Khan.
And that audio quote, incredible.

Nathan (01:00:49):
I had

Sam (01:00:50):
some fun.
One thing that's missing is you shouldhave had, he chose P P P P Pauly.

Nathan (01:00:55):
Maybe I'll do a remix of it.
Need some help.
Anybody want to do someaudio editing out there?
Email us.
All right.
I'm a busy guy.
I'm a busy guy.

Sam (01:01:06):
That was actually really well done.
Yeah.
Okay.

Nathan (01:01:08):
Okay.
So rules of our Harrison Ford movie draft.
We're in the middle of ourIndiana Jones retrospective.
So why not do this?
The rules are this.
We are each going to draftfive Harrison Ford movies.
And we cannot draft this.
Once a movie is drafted,it is off the table book.

(01:01:31):
Off the table.
It is and we just want toget our five feet movies.
I'm excited.
All right.
And Saint, this

Sam (01:01:40):
ain't no joke.
This is gonna be epic.

Nathan (01:01:42):
Yeah.
So what's funny is Ilooked at his filmography.
He is not the most prolific.
Actor out there.
He's been around since the earlyseventies, but man, he, and he is a

Bee (01:01:57):
little bit of a journeyman too, right?
He just takes job.

Nathan (01:02:00):
Yeah.
So let's see what happens.
And I had to do this.
Did you, I know I didn't, I sprungthis on you, but do you have any
particular strategy you wanna share?

Bee (01:02:11):
No.
I'm not telling you.

Trailer (01:02:13):
Poker, puh, poker face.
Okay.

Bee (01:02:18):
Alright, speaking of my fave, my favorite hair is important.

Nathan (01:02:21):
To do this in a fair way, this is how, we will do a random number for
this, cause I don't have a better system.
No, I like the order we were in.
1 to

Bee (01:02:35):
20?

Nathan (01:02:36):
We'll do 1 to 20.

Bee (01:02:39):
11.

Nathan (01:02:41):
He has 11.
16.
And I'll do, and I'll do 2.
And it is 18.
Woo!
So Sam, you are going 1st, Bea, youare going 2nd, and I'm going 3rd.

Trailer (01:03:00):
Okay.
A trilogy of people.

Nathan (01:03:05):
A three quill.
Alright, so Sam, you get thefirst pick in our movie draft,
Harrison Ford movie draft.
And I want to do this also let's likea timer, like 10 seconds at most.
So let's do this fast.
So keep this entertaining,

Sam (01:03:21):
sounds good.
So I, when I was born in 1981, formy first choice, I would choose the
excellent Peter Weir directed filmWitness starring Harrison Ford.

Nathan (01:03:36):
Okay.
Witness at the table.

Bee (01:03:40):
Dammit.

Nathan (01:03:43):
Already done.
Not happy.
All right, B.

Bee (01:03:49):
Blade Runner.

Nathan (01:03:51):
Blade Runner.
Oh, you guys, I don't know what's

Bee (01:03:54):
wrong with me.
B's second favorite movie.
Okay.

Nathan (01:04:00):
I am, I'm going to go with Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Bee (01:04:05):
Dammit.
All right.
It's fine.
I'm fine.

Nathan (01:04:09):
You're fine.
You're fine.
We're fine.

Bee (01:04:11):
I'm fine.
It's fine.
All

Nathan (01:04:12):
right.
I got my Indiana Jones in.
All right.
And are we doing snake?
We're doing snake.
I didn't mention that before,but we have to do snake.
Do what?
Snake order.
Snake order.
So I have the fourth pick.
The third and fourth pick,we do snake order throughout.
I'm just bringing the sign in now.
Oh.
You know what I'm saying?

Bee (01:04:30):
Yeah, either way, I'm in the middle, doesn't matter.

Nathan (01:04:33):
Right.
I want to witness, but that's okay.
I have to get in the two of thebiggest franchises he was in.
But I, he's, he was never cooler.
In a Star Wars movie than hewas in Empire Strikes Back.

Bee (01:04:51):
Mm hmm.

Nathan (01:04:54):
Okay.

Bee (01:04:55):
I'm going Last Crusade.

Nathan (01:04:58):
Last Crusade.
I'm gonna take the movie

Bee (01:05:01):
we just watched.

Nathan (01:05:05):
Last Crusade is off the table.
All right, Blade Runner LastCrusade, we are all in the 80s still.

Sam (01:05:15):
Wait, do I, It's the early days.
I go now, right?
Or do I not?

Nathan (01:05:19):
Yes, you and you pick two.
You get two picks, Sam.

Sam (01:05:23):
Oh, wow.
Options.

Bee (01:05:24):
I'm gonna.
Are the middles really.
I'm

Sam (01:05:26):
gonna.
I'm gonna.
So I can choose two rightnow is what you're saying?
Yes.
Yes.
That's incredible.
I'm gonna do a one, two PhilipNoyce punch from 1992 and 1994.
That would be.
You aren't you?
Patriot Games and Clearand Present Danger.

Bee (01:05:43):
I was going to do Patriot Games.
Oh, I was going to do Patriot Games.
Okay, it's fine.

Sam (01:05:52):
I had those two available to me.
It was all too clear.

Bee (01:05:57):
I'm doing The Fugitive.

Nathan (01:06:03):
The Fugitive.
Tommy Lee Jones.
All my favorites are being taken away.
Joey Pants.
Okay, my top tier isgone, all except for one.
But, I don't know if I want that one.

(01:06:24):
Yeah.
And okay, this is going to sound likean odd pick, but I think this is an
extremely underrated movie, and Ithink the only time he ever played
a villain, and I love this movie todeath, and this is What Lies Beneath.

Sam (01:06:39):
Ooh, good one.
Good choice.

Bee (01:06:42):
Never seen it.
I love the variety.
You'd like it, it's

Trailer (01:06:45):
scary.
I would.
I love this.
It's actually really good.
Yeah.

Nathan (01:06:49):
And I can't, I had to go with that because I've got
the other franchise covered.
Nobody's picked theother anyways, it's okay.
I know B, you're not goingto take any Star Wars movies.

Bee (01:07:03):
I like Star Wars.
There's no reason that I wouldn'ttake any Star Wars movies.

Nathan (01:07:09):
All right.
Oh, I've got another pick.
I think I have another pick.
All right.
I get another one.
Hmm.
I can't, I don't want twoStar Wars movies in my pick.
I want variety.
And you've taken all the ones that Iwant, so I am gonna go down another tier.

Trailer (01:07:25):
You sure it's not Return of the Jedi
. Nathan: Sorry man.
And I am going to here's okay,this is gonna be a little weird Be
you took Blade Runner and I am agiant fan of Blade 20 20, 20 49.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was gonna take

Bee (01:07:40):
it.
That's a great, it's a great legacy.
Cool.

Nathan (01:07:43):
Yeah, I'm done with that.
I love

Bee (01:07:45):
that movie.
Fuck.

Nathan (01:07:49):
All right.
I only got one pick after this.
All right.
How many

Bee (01:07:53):
picks do I have?

Nathan (01:07:54):
You get you're up, you got two picks.
These are your lasttwo, , you got one pick.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're in the middle.

Bee (01:08:00):
Okay.
All right.
This is tough.
This is tough.
I'll go Star Wars.
Let's do the OG Star Wars.

Nathan (01:08:09):
Alright.
Sam?

Trailer (01:08:15):
Get off my plane, Air Force One.

Nathan (01:08:22):
Air Force One.
Can't believe none

Bee (01:08:24):
of us picked Sabrina.

Nathan (01:08:26):
Yeah, I've seen that.
And Sam, you have your last pick.

Sam (01:08:36):
Ah,
fleppergast.

Nathan (01:08:39):
The Devil's Own.

Sam (01:08:41):
I, completely, I can't believe I'm going to pick this movie.
This I, this is I'm committing blasphemy.
This movie is a guilty pleasure for me.
Give you a hint.
He co stars in this film.
One of his co stars is David Schwimmer.
I'm of course referringto six days, seven nights.
I

Nathan (01:09:00):
didn't expect that.

Sam (01:09:01):
Yeah, neither did I.
Yeah, I

Nathan (01:09:05):
did not expect that.
I haven't seen it.

Sam (01:09:08):
So it's ridiculous.
I love it.
It's like Diet Coke,Indiana Jones, basically.

Nathan (01:09:15):
Okay,
be your last pick.

Bee (01:09:20):
Oh, I got one more.
I thought that was my last one.
You have Blade

Nathan (01:09:23):
Runner, Last Crusade, Fugitive and Star Wars.

Trailer (01:09:26):
Let me guess Force 10 from Navarone?

Bee (01:09:30):
Nailed it.
Obviously it's Cowboys and Aliens.
No, it's not.
It's not.
It's not.
It's Not his biggest, but he's in AmericanGraffiti, it's not a vehicle for him, but

Nathan (01:09:43):
it's not, and I thought about that because it's a really
great movie, but he's, it's not a

Bee (01:09:48):
Harrison Ford vehicle, I be tempted to do Working Girl or something,
but I like American Graffiti better.
You did

Sam (01:09:53):
pick The Fugitive, right?
She has it.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
I'm just glad that movie hassomeone has to acknowledge that.
Yeah, that's a great movie.
Yeah.

Bumper (01:10:01):
Yeah.

Sam (01:10:03):
That's like quintessential Harrison Ford on the run.
God, it's great.

Nathan (01:10:09):
And that leaves my final pick.
And I'm looking like, do I have anythingin the second, third or fourth tier?
And it's, man, it's like moreStar Wars and Indiana Jones films.

Bee (01:10:25):
You can pick those though.

Sam (01:10:27):
I think you should pick the Rise of Skywalker because he's in it
for 10 minutes or like 10 seconds.

Nathan (01:10:33):
Honestly, the movie that I have, okay, here it is.
This is actually a really good movieand I almost forgot all about it.
And it's the film that he met RiverPhoenix on to, To suggest that he become,
he be cast as the young version of him.
And that is the mosquitocoast, really good film.

Bee (01:10:56):
I want to see that.
I've never seen it, butI think I would like it.

Sam (01:11:00):
I think also a Peter Weir film, I think, right?
It is.
It is.
Yeah.

Bee (01:11:04):
Yeah, I know.
Cause I was going through Peter Weirstuff when we were doing our Mad Max.
It's

Nathan (01:11:09):
low in my tears because I haven't seen it since probably 1988 or so.
But I remember.
I don't know if I was liking it backthen, but I was 14 or so when I saw it.
So I don't, it might sit verydifferently with me then.
I'd like to watch it again,I think it's really good.

Bee (01:11:26):
I like Harrison Ford as an actor, but he is either in movies that I
really or movies that I really are sonot up my street at all, I don't know.
I totally hear that.
All my

Sam (01:11:36):
choices are essentially like Harrison Ford vehicles, like he's such a good
movie star that like, you see the moviesthat are like Ford, center, whatever.

Nathan (01:11:48):
Honestly, there's his last one, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine, 10, hislast 13 movies I've only seen.
Over the last 13 movies, likeDial of Destiny, Blade Runner,
Force Awakens, and Crystal Skull.
If you go back before that,I stopped watching his movies

(01:12:09):
after K 19, The Widowmaker.
Everything after that, I've barelyseen anything like Firewall,
Hollywood Homicide, Crossing Over.
Firewall, oh

Trailer (01:12:17):
man.

Nathan (01:12:18):
Extraordinary measures, morning glory.
I never saw Cowboys and Aliens.
I never saw Ender's Game.
I never saw Call of the Wild.
So all of these are very fascinating.
How come Call of

Sam (01:12:27):
the Wild didn't get picked tonight?
Yeah, I've seen those all.
Yeah.
Some of them aren't so great.
Ender's Game,

Bee (01:12:31):
I liked the book a lot.
I wasn't thrilled with the movie.
It was fine.
Yeah, there was just There's some stuffthat I'm just like, yeah, it's just.

Sam (01:12:40):
Ender's Game, the movie was like,

Bee (01:12:42):
that was good.
Technically a movie.
All

Nathan (01:12:47):
right, let's just recap our list here.
Sam, run down your movies.

Sam (01:12:51):
My movies are Six Days, Seven Nights, Witness, Clear and Present
Danger, Patriot Games, and Air Force One.

Nathan (01:12:58):
Bea, run down your movies.

Bee (01:13:00):
No, I didn't write them down.
I will run

Nathan (01:13:03):
down your movies.
You have Blade Runner, Indiana Jones andthe Last Crusade, The Fugitive, Star Wars,
A New Hope, just to clarify, the firstone, and American Graffiti, the first one.
I have great taste.
And my five movies were Raiders ofthe Lost Ark, Empire Strikes Back,

(01:13:24):
What Lies Beneath, Blade Runner2049, and The Mosquito Coast.
Listeners at home.
Who won this draft?
Let us know.
Obviously it was me.
Obviously.
It's not even a contest.

Bee (01:13:36):
So sorry guys.
And

Nathan (01:13:39):
our, so we're going to end this episode with our weekly highlight, where
we just talk about anything that wewatched this week in the world of movies
or not, if anyone has anything they wouldlike to mention, I have something, but
would anybody else like to go first?

Sam (01:14:00):
Go for it.
You go first.
I'm thinking, I'm sure I saw something.

Nathan (01:14:06):
You guys already mentioned last week that you saw Tim Burton's
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, butI did finally catch up with it.
Oh, nice.
This past week.
I'd like to say it's the bestthing that Tim Burton has done in
decades, but honestly, I've barelyseen anything he's done in so long.
So I can only speculate that this isthe best thing he's done in a long time.

(01:14:28):
I have watched Wednesday the Netflixshow, which I do think is well done,
which of course he's behind that.
This film though, I liked it, didn'tlove it, definitely think the second
half is stronger than the first.
And maybe that's becauseit spends a lot of time.

(01:14:48):
Introducing a lot of characters upfront, but I think it's to the film's
detriment way too many characters, waytoo many subplots and several, which
they could have just done away with.
And I think the filmwould have been stronger.
What I did like though, in thesecond half is that this, it does

(01:15:08):
just completely go bat shit crazyand really happy about that.
And I'm glad they didn't, stilldid not make Beetlejuice like.
The main character.
And I was worried that this iswhat a lot of legacy equals do.
Oh, the thing that everybody loves.
We're going to make that the thing.

Bee (01:15:26):
Yeah.

Nathan (01:15:27):
And, but I did read that if you do clock it, michael Keaton's Beetlejuice is
like in the first movie, like 20 minutes.
He's in this movie 40 minutes, whichis significantly more, but it still
didn't feel like it was overused.
Keaton's still awesome in this movie.
I thought shined in this.

(01:15:47):
She was my second favoritepart of this movie.
Me too.
I thought Jenna Torgo, Jenna Ortegawas born to be in this franchise.
Winona Ryder, I don't know, I wasreally mixed on her in this film.
But anyways I did like the

Sam (01:16:00):
story element where the daughter, when the kid that she's interested
in turns out to be like a dead,

Nathan (01:16:06):
I loved that.
I love that because when that, whenthey were first, let's not spoil it.
Let's not say a lot ofpeople have not seen it

Sam (01:16:12):
Without giving away anything, I'll say when that character was first.
Introduced, I thought, I was like,oh God, this is so cliche and boring.
And I like that.
There's more to it than that.

Nathan (01:16:22):
Yeah.
But yeah, I'm just, I am happy.
It's not terrible, but it wasas good as I thought it was.
I not good best way.
I, it's about what I thought itwas gonna be on the quality level.
It's serviceable fun.
It's fan service.

Bee (01:16:38):
Yeah.
But I'm a fan and I was serviced.

Nathan (01:16:40):
Yeah.

Bee (01:16:41):
Like
I.
I think the movie suffersfrom too many plot lines.
Like I think it's two moviesthat are clashing often.
I thought it was

Nathan (01:16:52):
five movies that were, I

Sam (01:16:53):
hear that.
I feel like it didn't

Bee (01:16:55):
bother me.
I still loved it.
I

Sam (01:16:57):
enjoyed it.
I feel like the first film had thenovelty of like their perception
of what the afterlife is like,that it's like very bureaucratic.
And like you see it for thefirst time in that film.
So the concept is fresh where Ifeel like this movie Oscillates
back and forth between the ghostworld and the regular world.
And it's busy.
It has a lot going on,

Nathan (01:17:17):
but yeah, but

Sam (01:17:17):
I hear you.
Yeah.

Nathan (01:17:20):
I'll leave it there.
Cause we're not doing like a fullreview on it, but I had a good time.
I had a good time and I thought itgot stronger as the movie went on.
But anyways, that's, Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice it's in theaters right now.

Bee (01:17:37):
I did not watch something new this week.
I watched something very old from 1947.
I watched Orson Welles, Ladyfrom Shanghai, Three to Hayward.
Oh, it's so good.
You guys, it's so good.
It's a little noir.
It's a little, it's very fun.
Very fun.
Yeah.
I don't want to give it away.

(01:17:57):
Cause I hate to spoil a nearly a hundredyear old movie, but please don't.

Nathan (01:18:00):
There are people are hanging on their seats, trying to, I don't want
to, I Anything Sam, that you did no,

Sam (01:18:08):
I saw last crusade, but it's a crazy week, but not much.
Yeah.
I meant to continue watchingrings of power season two.
I didn't get to it.
So definitely next, next week I'veonly seen the first two episodes.
Yeah,

Nathan (01:18:18):
I did see the new Jeremy Saulnier movie rebel Ridge on Netflix.
I, I do like his films a lot.
I'm a huge fan of GreenRoom and Blue Ruin.
I like, I did like it.
I like go crazy over it.
There's a lot of love for thisonline right now, but I thought
this was a really good entry.
If you like First Blood, SylvesterStallone film, this is like.

(01:18:41):
In that tone, although much less violent,but it's like a similar type of character
in a, in that kind of situation.
It's well done.
It's really well done.
Not if you look at like the Netflixcover art, you would think this
is just some generic action film.
It's.
It's more than that.
It's got Don Johnson.
It's got Don Johnson

Bee (01:19:02):
in

Nathan (01:19:04):
a great role.
I like him so much.
Jeremy Salonier is a really good director.
And his stuff is excellent.
That's awesome.
So I recommend it.
And yeah that's really whatI've been doing this week.

Bee (01:19:21):
I'm going to start a Coen brothers rewatch and go through their filmography.
I've seen most of it.
There's a few key ones that I'mmissing, but I think I might
just start at the beginning.
Do it again.
I rewatched a true grit, theirremake of true grit, which is one
of my favorite Coen brother movies.
It's

Trailer (01:19:40):
a little beef.

Bee (01:19:43):
It's a perfect modern Western and it was so great to get lost in it.
I just thought, I shouldjust do all these again.

Sam (01:19:50):
I love that movie and Dana Carvey made the, did the funniest impression.
Of, I can't name, I haven'theard brain is, it's, the guy
from, The Jeff Bridges in Jeremy.
He did an impression of him andhe said that he sounds like he's
digesting an enormous amount of foodwhen he delivers any line in the way.

(01:20:10):
Cause

Trailer (01:20:10):
he's

Sam (01:20:12):
Digesting like steak, it's perfect.

Bee (01:20:16):
I love that movie.
I think I saw it likefour times in theaters.

Sam (01:20:21):
That's a great movie.

Nathan (01:20:23):
Okay.
I think that about wraps it up.
Next week, come back, we are gonnabe wrapping up our quest for fortune
and glory with Indiana Jones.
In the kingdom of the crystal skull.
What

Sam (01:20:39):
folks, what'd you say, Sam?
Saving the best for last.

Nathan (01:20:43):
Saving the best for last.
It'll be a, it'll be a fun discussion.

Sam (01:20:47):
It will.
All right.
That's the show.
Be is like.
Trying to decode that.
She's I don't know what they mean.
That's the fun of it.
Yeah.
No, I

Bee (01:20:54):
think you guys are being sarcastic, but I'm still on the, I
don't know if there will be Nazis again.

Sam (01:20:59):
We'll see.
Never know.

Nathan (01:21:02):
Never know.
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Bumper (01:22:02):
We're about to complete a great quest.
The Holy Grail, Dr.
Jones.

Nathan (01:22:07):
Wrong button.
How about this one?
I

Sam (01:22:12):
did it on purpose.

Nathan (01:22:12):
No.
There we go.
Podcast.
Podcast.

Sam (01:22:18):
Podcast.
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want you to know it's over.
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