April 22, 2024 • 33 mins
La cantante y compositora bogotana quien se viralizó con su canción ¿Cómo pasó?, estuvo hablando con Andrea Silva sobre su carrera, lo fan que es de Taylor Swift, cómo fue abrirle a Karol G y más.
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Backstage. From this moment on,a new backstage where the only restriction is
that everyone can enter. It opensthe door to what is not seen in
the entertainment industry. The time topass the lights, the cameras and the
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microphones to the backstage. It isa pleasure to have you in episode number
forty- four the Ataubert welcome backstage. You don' t know how important
it is for me to have youhere. No, or the honor is
mine I' m too excited tobe here. It' s your first
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podcast, you said it and outof microphones and first times in your career
from here on out. Yeah,but I mean, this is the debut
and I' m really happy it' s here. I have to say,
what kind of witchcraft is this thatI know you have butterfly is everywhere
and I get the hotel. Thepromo at the entrance is a giant butterfly
life seriously, I didn' tsee it. There' s a giant
butterfly in the whole entrance of thisone I think I said, it can
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' t be that I' vesquared it. He' s so perfect
in giant steel, I can't believe you, right now, I
have to see her, I didn' t see her. But that'
s a crazy story, because that' s why the butterfly started accompanying me
so much my whole life, becauseChiquita was the first words I said.
I used to say pyriposa. Okay, yeah, my little dog' s
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name is that' s what it' s called, so I did pyriposa,
and I started the first studio Iwent to. I had a butterfly
painted on the wall Then it waslike I am very energetic and with the
signals and very with God also thenI said already this is a sign where
it finds butterfly, it is alreadythere. That' s your connection and
that' s why you have butterfliesin the whole concept as an artist.
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Yeah, yeah, let' ssay, obviously, if I want to
get to that conceptual point, butfirst I want you to explain to me
a little bit what, the artisticchronology. I know your mom obviously took
part in the sound entertainment. Youcan deny it. I think you'
re very proud of this, butyou don' t have the name of
the daughter' s artist. Ifeel like from my side, yes,
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I know a lot of people likethat and I feel very apart from you,
like, on the contrary, youthank him very much, but yes,
there' s a timeline of isto get to this one. Her.
Yeah, yeah, not my momand I think so, it'
s very special and very important tohave made a part of some form of
this entertainment universe, because seeing mymom as a kid in everything she did
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saying. Besides, how amazing theywere all I was doing, it was
very fascinating. I loved seeing heron screen and learning things so fast.
That seemed crazy to me how Iimprovised and I think it' s amazing
because it was the first time.Actually, the first time I went to
a studio. It was that shewas working and a friend of hers and
some friends of them said walk themto a studio while my mom was working
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and there I recorded my first coverin life, an idea of him.
I said my God this is whatI want to do then. I think
that' s where my mom starts. Yes, it was a very big
engine in my dreams and in whatI wanted to do, because, because
if I hadn' t believed inme anymore, I' m not sitting
here. I mean, that wouldn' t have been possible. And it
' s the fascination with entertainment.You think the environment you grew up in
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with your mom. I think it' s important when one has as a
reference and as one is very influencedby the environment. I do believe and
besides that not only that, butin my home, my grandmother, for
example, that this I always tryto tell my grandmother dances flamenco and she
stood at the tables of restaurants todance and was spectacular. She is spectacular
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and in my house they always hearda lot of music. My grandfather also
kind of always been surrounded by maybea lot of music and my mom had
a brother who passed away. Ididn' t know him. He died
in an accident, but he wasa musician, he was a musician,
he composed, he sang. Thenhe said that ok I saw the dream
for my uncle and and I thinkit does come a lot from that place,
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somehow, that depth also that youare like from the energies and so
on from those sensibilities, that Ifeel that you are too sensitive and too
much I tell them too much artists, because in which we part this and
feel the music, yes like everybeat or every guitar or every lyrics we
feel so deep and so deep.It is also due to that artistic world.
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Or why do you think? Ithink yes, I do, I
confess that, I mean, Isuffered a lot because I was already already
too sensitive and sometimes I didn't know how to handle my smaller emotions.
It was very difficult because I wascrying for everything I see a dog,
for example, on the street.I couldn' t and didn'
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t and it was that all daycrying to tears. I mean, it
was like I can' t bethat I made it very hard and I
suffered a lot and I kind ofblamed myself a lot too because it was
like my God this is about mein life or maybe things that aren'
t in my control. So yes, I mean, I don' t
know if it has anything to dowith the environment. My mom tells me
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how every time she sees me verysensitive. It' s as I already
know, but we' re goingto let humans down because if I think
that for me, if everything movesme, everything is too sensitive. I
' ve learned to hold him asfond of the subject, but yes,
I don' t know if it' s about the environment. I'
m just like that. But andit has to do with shyness, because
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I feel that one is changing andevolving and sometimes one realizes that personality is
being forged to measure. Besides,you are in a spotlite that, then,
has been your turn to face yourfears, your shyness, your sensitivity.
And it' s your turn.I mean, I think there are
things that don' t go back, but, and suddenly they become your
ferteza of what I want to see, that is, as if, of
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that weakness that you see today howit became your strength or what it has
given you like that kick Pa let' s go I think that as you
maybe advance in this race, thatis, sometimes you imagine everything as I
imagined myself with Hannah Montana, thatI imagined everything as in the series and
well, in the movie, ineverything And really has many challenges that you
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don' t know, for example, that maybe a lot in the race
happens to you that they start comparingyou a lot and force you to compare
yourself to everything. So that's a mistake, because I always do
That' s ridiculous what I'm going to say, but I always
said OK. If you compare onelemon to another, ask for lemon,
which we did both OK, becauseit' s the same. Let'
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s see what tastes different. However, they are different, because they are
different touches. But you better comparetwo desserts, but two people, two
artists, three artists. I feelthat every human being has precisely its reality,
its past, that they can't, that is, you can
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' t compare two people because youcan' t, that' s not
valid. So I think the mostimportant challenges. Obviously, that' s
when I started to feel maybe atsome point not the audience, but people
around me. I started to feellike those comparisons with other people. He
gave me a hard time. Idon' t know if because of that
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sensitivity, but I fell into ahorrible hole. I don' t confess
anymore, I didn' t wantto do anything anymore. I said either
I mean it can' t belike it' s a comparison, like
physics or how I sang, likeI sang the way I wanted to express
myself many times to listen to myselfin an environment like this is very difficult,
because obviously it' s like thiscomparison and I remember that of course
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I fell into a hole where Ithought and I said" pucha".
Nothing I do is enough. NothingI do is enough. I can'
t sit down, okay? Iworked everything, I am very much of
sitting down to analyze, to study, to see what is happening in the
world, in every way. Imean, I' m trying to be
very clear, but obviously I feltokay with all this, that effort.
I did like three videos a day, singing, doing everything by writing with
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my friends, everything and nothing wasenough. Then and I think I fell
into that hole I hope never tocome back from, but nothing. My
mom reminded me of a phrase shetold me when I was younger that happens
a lot, I was very shyright now that you said I was too
shy. Joke. I feel thatbecause I feel I identify from some point
to continue with the story, becauseI feel that sensitivity with a subject of
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introspection and shyness, I was toofeared. My mom was the one who
made me sing in public. Ididn' t want, I was like
not doing this to me that inmarriage, that at the party, that
in the fifteens, that why itgoes on, why not of everything And,
obviously, when that already, obviouslybecause it was advancing and already that
I started to lose it like thatfear, thanks to her, because if
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not I would, that is,after singing to thousands of people. This
if I couldn' t do it. But yeah, I think that kind
of thing, like the comparison.Going back to that is it' s
very is, very difficult, becausefor me to get out of that hole
so difficult that it was the onethat made me write a song that was
called growing up, which was thefirst song that I can really say I
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wrote for myself. That song wasn' t coming out. That song was
for me because I didn' tknow how else to express to the people
who love me that are worried aboutme, that I was really tired of
this, of how I felt,of how they made me feel, not
them, but in the place whereI was surrounded by people who maybe didn
' t want the best for me. And obviously, I think what you
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did teach me from that moment totoday was that I had two options or
I had two options or I hadto sink and not go on and get
back here and I don' tknow what it would have been like for
me to study something else or sayok gets aberraced. Looks like my mom
traveled all the way out of thatbed It was like nothing we' re
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gonna do. I don' tknow how we operate and I feel that
that sensitive reitivity, even though it' s still in me, I feel
like the skin is starting to geta little thicker, that is, it
' s starting or not like you' re using that sensitivity to handle it
differently. The phrase your mom toldyou about my mom' s phrase was
that when I was younger and Iwent to an academy or a program to
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compete with other kids, I toldmy mom no. Not my mom,
I mean, this can' tbe me, not me, I mean,
you listen to me, you mean? I don' t sing like
that and I can' t competeagainst those kids and my mom tells me,
you know what you were gonna say. Maybe you don' t sing
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like he does and I don't, so thank you, then I
' m good. If I don' t sing like him, I know
I don' t, he hasto remember. But he tells me,
but you know he doesn' tsing like you do. She doesn'
t sing like you and you don' t sing like her because they'
re unique and unrepeatable both of them. No one can sing like you and
you can' t sing like themeither. And everyone has their own special
thing. Sure. I remembered thatI had it back there and it was
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like that. That' s whatit is, and it' s just
that I feel that the subject isvery cliché about self- esteem, but
I think all you' re talkingabout is that we build ourselves all the
time or we deconstruct ourselves all thetime with that lack of self- esteem
of wanting to be like someone orbecause we kind of don' t take
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it as an inspiration, but thatcomparison, that lack of self- esteem.
And all of a sudden you,with that voice and not literal,
but with that power that you haveand not literal, can come right with
these messages, not as total,which is important, yes, and also
to you has happened, because itis that the people who believe it is
from night to morning that you arrived. Surely, what you' re doing
today is thanks to those moments.Don' t doubt it, no and
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I think obviously, already after alot of sitting down, analyzing me,
studying me and taking that sensitivity thatI always ask me is how my super
power never when you do analyse andyou love yourself like not if you study,
because, for example, when youlike someone, you don' t
focus and you like the other personwhat, but you never know each other.
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I' m enough and I didmy homework. I did the homework
and hug myself and love myself withmy sensitivity, with my vulnerability, so
much so that all my songs areas vulnerable as possible, because I want
to leave my heart and my honestythere and what I like as my super
power. Then I understood that thereare no more people ready, maybe they
will see it as I see it, but if there are people who feel
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like I feel, and that forme is all I mean, that'
s enough and draw very clearly andgiving like the horses that my mom tells
me with her eyes. So ofcourse, don' t look anywhere and
draw the dreams and draw that innergirl who has dreamed her whole life of
singing and doing songs, and thatone who danced in the room with Taylor
Suit and super happy. That's the girl I want to protect whenever
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all of a sudden the race theclear artist hits bottom to get to know
each other, know what they want, explore constantly producing sounds not like understanding
your date with other people. Imean, it' s hard knowledge,
but I also think there are otheredges that need a lot of money to
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move around, to not know fora lot of things. It takes a
lot of financial resources today to startyour career or you can just viralize a
song from your home room. Imean, I think there' s two
faces to that. I do.I think, anyway, always chasing dreams
is going to be a big challenge. I mean, I do think I
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don' t know. Example,when I went to America, my mom,
that is, she was my support, but there came a point where
I had to help her, becausewe couldn' t both alone. Then
I got in and started teaching singingclasses in the United States to children and
I was also doing my videos withtwo, watching my songs, but all
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in one. I mean, Ikind of feel like anything' s possible.
But obviously, I also had myeffort and help my mom and my
family, because that is an effortnot only of one, but of all
the people who love you. Nowthat, obviously, yes, I think
there is today, yes, thereis an ease and a blessing that with
discipline is achieved that it is mein pandemic made three videos a day and
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published them everywhere studying and everything withoutneed. I didn' t show my
face on social media. I,before, I mean, it was a
mystery, I would go up coversrecording like the landscape and put the voice
in the background. Yeah, yeah, and then, since I kind of
started showing my face, I startedputting up songs and so I started creating
like that beautiful community that today iswhat' s called our shelter. And
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that' s been like the biggestchallenge. But yeah, I think today
you can have your cell phone,so whatever it is and upload a video
every day and I think it's again if it brings fruit to me.
Thank God. I think my experiencehas been that the constancy. There
are days when you may be dawningand I don' t want to do
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anything at all, but it's my turn, I mean, I
don' t let you earn meanything. That' s how you already
have laziness. Well, it's gonna take you ten minutes of twenty
- four hours a day to doit. I am already very curious always
about creative processes. I think thatevery human being doesn' t care what
is dedicated if you cook, ifyou are an engineer or architect, you
have a creative process to dress,to cook, to fix your house,
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to decorate. I don' tknow for artists. Evidently, it arises
from the nothingness of silence to listento a lot of music, to read
books and calls me a lot ofcuriosity, because it is also as all
the time as well as very observantand very much of what happens and also
of one' s own experiences.How you create your songs, what is
your creative process that inspires you.Better I, so far, has been
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very nice to me is to findout how that shelter in songs and more
power, how to tell those storiesthat maybe at the time I didn'
t have a chance to write themor share them. I feel that that
' s a way to close thecycle or heal then as long as every
time we sit down depends on thesong, it depends on the process,
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but lately it' s to sitdown and I return to my inner teen.
So I got back at that timeit' s like what I lived,
what this was and there are specificthings that maybe that teenager would have
loved to hear songs that would havetold his story exactly, like what happened
to the most recent song, whichis being able to tell detail by detail
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in what I lived. And it' s very nice, because anyway,
these songs come more than anything froma very nice team process as well.
I mean, it' s notjust me ever, I mean, whenever
I can say it, this isfrom a very big teamwork. How is
your good team, my creative team. Speaking of the creative part, we
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' re good Kevin, who's my producer, who' s my
key in everything with him, wealways sit down and with him as a
psychologist. Besides, because you haveto deal with all these strong stories and
well, we always call friends invitedto write these songs, but it'
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s always the two of us andalways what we do in our creative process
is or what we need to talkabout your life, so that' s
what it takes to say. SoI feel like you live so many things,
every day, so many emotions,I' m so sensitive and I
feel everything triple. There' salways a little book full of things that
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I know I want to say Ineed to write with days is by hand.
We always do, we all doit by hand, too. Either
or or well, it also happensto depend on what you feel. Sometimes
it' s the cell phone.Sometimes we' re on the street and
something comes up like no more orit' s time to have it already,
but if it' s us andwell, it' s a team
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already, obviously already extending it,a giant team of friends that today I
can call friends, but they're a beautiful team, that take care
of specific tasks of the project,that make the project grow and be her
project, but it' s everyone' s project. I mean, it
' s very special. And thatsound. Not how you gradually found that
sound, because if I hear it, I know it' s hela and
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that I think is that identity fromyour authenticity, what you said as she
doesn' t have two and it' s a sound. I call it
a little dramatic, because there islike one, like some. I don
' t know how to call themlike a scream of passion like a passionate
voice and even the sounds, likethey start the songs, get to those
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sounds and especially today that you're so viral where what I think is
more viral, we' ve beenturning the reggaeton over to it for many
years and it comes this lyrics andit catches us all, because I feel
it' s amen. Not fromthere, well. I really feel that
for me, at this point inmy career, I also think that I
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' ve been a very young popgirl since I grew up, I'
m swifting. I mean, youknow, being the biggest fan of all,
well, I was already with HannahMontar, I was wearing my wigs,
that is, Mily, all theAnglo music. Even though I hear
everything, I listen urban, Ilisten pop, I listen danced, I
hear everything, but I was alwaysa pop girl that is me, I
always loved those lyrics. I livedmy first tesa with rex without having it,
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i e all bad, i eI was that kind of Persian that
I listened to the songs. Isaid poor, but I didn' t
live it then, but I understandyou I love you and so I think
it really was a very nice processwhat I said about hugging me a lot
of understanding and that for me itis important to be able to transmit that
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one. I don' t knowif it' s angry, if I
' ve fallen in love, ifI' ve been in love, if
it' s because they broke myheart. So, it' s ugly
to convey that rage that gave mea broken heart. And if it'
s sad, because it sounds untilI' m crying in the song now
that you say you' re SWIFTand I don' t know if you
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' re sure you have, becauseif you study everything that' s going
on in the world, you've studied the Taylor Swift phenomenon, which
is all the relationships you' vehad and just a little while ago I
listened to a theory that seemed interestingto me, because everyone questions themselves.
I mean, I' m notsuifte, but I do get a lot
of attention. I connect with somesongs, but especially as a phenomenon,
I say what happens and that's what it is is teen singing stories
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that have no voice, that weknow him all the boyfriends, but that
she doesn' t say it towidow voice, but I did it with
her songs, her fandom not andalso your closeness. I feel like you,
with your community, built it awesome. Yeah, not me with Taylor,
sharing my experience as Swifty. Tome of the memories that I remember
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most, it was the computer thatchubby before watching YouTube and watching her videos
and feeling her like a princess.I already visualized her as a princess,
as if she were from Disney,I mean, like her songs and the
way she sang and told her storiesinspired me a lot, I mean,
it was more than anything, likethat way to keep the inner child alive.
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It' s that yes, thetheory is basically that it' s
a very well told Disney story,that goes for all ages and that you
can see it at any exact momentand it' s timeless. I mean,
I' m gonna be a fanuntil I' m ninety- five,
I mean, that' s notgonna change. And that' s
what we say. It happens tome a lot, too. Let'
s say now with the people whosupport me and with the people who allow
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me to fulfill these dreams that Ihave since Chiquita, that I tell them
that those are our dreams. Ialways make them part of because without them
there' s nothing. It's been very nice, because they'
ve seen from scratch the growth we' ve had together, because they'
re part of everything. They chosesometimes choose and on this occasion how it
happened, they chose the name ofthe song. I mean, they'
re part of a whole creative processas well and in the way I express
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myself, the way they make mefeel about them. It' s all
about it and in the end,when we released the first song, in
which I was too sad about whatI was telling you at the beginning,
when there were so many people connectingto a song so I wasn' t
supposed to leave my room. Thatwas the moment when I realized these people,
I' m going to take themin a little drawer for my whole
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life and they' re going tobe part of my life forever, because
they made me feel alive and accompaniedand that I wasn' t a weirdo
that was feeling bad alone look attalking about weirdo. I think it'
s important to be a weirdo abouteverything and defend that authenticity. Yes and
you connect with the eleven or eleven, with the butterflies, with the energies
you feel perceived surely that sensitivity hasgiven you that too developed intuition and elevated
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manifests grow that in the manifestation,you visualize, you write what your technique
is and speak to me all thisscroll. Well, I, from Chiquita,
the eleven and eleven I found it, just like with the butterfly,
everywhere, but with my mom wehave the game and in the family it
was to see some signs, itwas to make a wish. Then we
all have to make a wish andmanifest something. And I believe a lot,
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I am very much of God,of my energies. I protect them.
I take care of them because ifI think the word and the energy
has a lot of power, sixmonths ago I recorded a video of me
with how it went down almost cryingbecause you felt it had a lot of
faith, I mean, with alot of faith I look at myself in
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the Chamber and I say someday I' m going to sing this song in
a stadium. I promise. It' s going to be amazing and this
is going to happen one day,three doritos after punk cat of yes happens
this way and you saved it foryou there is not I raised it and
I shared it because of course this, for me, that' s how
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you' re already putting it aloneand it' s me I think this
is about the exact universe. Ido believe, I believe a lot in
that and I do believe that thereis a very important power to be positive,
to dream, to believe, tohave an intact faith in what one
does. I don' t doubtanything. I say smart, let'
s do this. Okay, I, I have fans or, I have
faith in people, I have faithin everything, because I do believe that
that does call good things and thatbesides, not only that, but I
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also feel like that' s mybelief that if you have so much faith
and I have someone who looks atme every day and takes care that it
' s my official sponsor, ifI have so much faith in, that
doesn' t have, why nothappen. That' s how it'
s gonna happen. We' regoing to work hard. But yeah,
I think there' s a veryimportant phase, because it' s believing
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in you that what you want towalk and happens happened to me and it
keeps happening to me and it's going to keep happening to you.
And you didn' t open upexpensive Gis because she' s the best
friend of Gi cars. Precisely thatpeople believe how easy ay is to have
it. Obviously, it' salready viral. Then it' s not
like that. No, no,no, no, it was an equal
conversation, very nice between the twoteams, but I can say that of
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the nicest things that left me allthis, especially because I sang Carol'
s songs at school with my friends. I mean, this is like and
I have been two or three yearsalso since I entered as already professional artist
level, to enter the place inthe guild. For me, I'
ve always been watching her the wholetime. I said I admire her very
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much. I really want to belike her someday. She' s very
hard, that' s discipline,she' s got her family around.
She' s a good person.I mean, the amazing showstans. I
couldn' t believe that night beyondeverything was being able to meet him and
thank him for inspiring me every day. So I do, I think it
was, I mean, he didtell you punctually that you' re never
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gonna forget. I think for youto laugh, I' m gonna start
crying. And I mean, itwas really her and I loved that I
told her I' m going tocry, I mean, ripping them off
like I' m going to cryand she tells me you don' t
drop your makeup and you can't cry. I mean, she has
to be perfect and contact me andthat sounds silly to me, but I
was saying. You' re absolutelyright. Don' t cry any more
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about what we' re talking aboutsensitivity and magic tugo, already, already,
now, no more, then,yes, I think more than anything,
for me that moment was also ofpower at last to thank you in
person for what I was saying toyou. Thank the person, not only
for allowing me to accompany him onhis night, but the inspiration, the
inspiration he is and his sister,also Jessica, to whom she has two
gold and who also it was forher that I was there tonight too.
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It' s a lot of hardstuff. They' re tough, tough
family, green. Wow. Myrespects are incredible. I love them and
admire them very much. I don' t know if you' ve heard
the butterfly phrase related to love,and it' s that the more you
chase is a butterfly that moves furtheraway than love, and it' s
like you stand still and soon thebutterfly gets on top of you? Or
Way, I haven' t heard. I love that, it' s
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true, and it' s likelove if you stay still, suddenly it
gets on you? It' strue what you think today about relationships and
love, because obviously, we alreadyknow that you fell in love with almost
something and you didn' t tellit about what happened and I think it
' s a very common story.But how you see it, how you
perceive it and, above all,suddenly your friends. I think counting my
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life already, what do you callit personally, I think that little girl.
I feel like I made a mistakeof maybe idealizing a lot when life
isn' t about that and Ithink it' s the same all,
maybe or all, if in everyoneI don' t exclude anyone that everyone
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always feels when it' s thatfirst time, because that first time you
feel something for someone different, yourparents or your mom, which is the
people you love, that is,you love them. Those first times you
don' t know what to door how to act or how it works.
So it did happen to me that, for example, the first times,
or it was when you start tobe or that you are very intense,
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then that you were also taught intonces those processes that you are not
so intestate. Let him talk ifhe lets you talk for two hours,
stop talking for three. Then Isaid strategic, what is this so crazy,
and until that moment I said good. I confess I did, but
it was like I don' tfeel good doing this is stupid. As
it is possible, if you're supposed to be happy talking to someone,
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then being happy, obviously not acting, rar, not being intense,
not being weird. But, Imean, I did think like because it
can' t be so easy anddo things, simple things, because to
do the most difficult, most interesting, when already, obviously, for me,
among all these learnings grow and obviouslyI already hope and believe that he
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already, at twenty- four yearsold, I feel and see things very
different, that things are not ascomplicated as he didn' t do before.
I was very complicated and we madethe decisions, but it' s
important to make them and fail.Yeah, we' re a lot closer
to a good decision soon. Yeah, well, as my grandmother said,
it' s been a little whilesince we' re in a broken heart
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less than finding the work of ho' s life, yes, I think
it' s necessary, yes,it' s super necessary. If you
don' t learn, you don' t learn from anything, I think
that, yes, is very important. I love shitting her. I mean,
I don' t love you,but with life. It' s
important in life. Without that,you don' t know how to move
forward. It' s very important. And yes, there' s another
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thing I loved that I heard onceand it was that success is kind of
grounded on failure, I mean,there' s failure and so there'
s success, then you have toshit or. And finally, I want
to close a bit with the movingBogota because I feel that Colombia, even
culturally, socially, in the economicpart, in all the music, has
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taken us to another level that is, without a doubt, Colombia has the
best artists. It' s notbecause I' m Colombian, but I
just feel. But I do feellike we have the best artists. I
feel that sociocultural or that what theconcerts move, the artists, we are
on a super important level and Ithink that the artists have put us to
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speak a language, a language hasmade us dress different. In other words,
entertainment and music in Colombia have beenvery important. I have no doubt
about this, but I really likewhat' s going on in Bogotá,
which I feel needed to be raised. Yes, I think it' s
very nice, especially because I alsofeel I don' t know if I
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' m wrong what I' mgoing to say, but that I'
ve always felt Bogotá, as wellas a pop cunita and it inspired me
a lot, that is, tosee how the artists who are from here
and that I admire Morat example thatI was in school, I saw them,
I said Guau, that is tosay I became a fan of one
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and yes, I think it's very nice, because it' s
very beautiful also especially I who amaway from home and being able to tell
about the city where I grew up, where that inspiration came from, where
those dreams came from, of power, that is to take away this city
that really gave me and gives meall the time to be able to represent.
That' s very cute and Ithink it' s very important also
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maybe for me to give like thatmessage to young people who also want to
be an artist, who are here, in this city, because I feel
that many times what happens to me. Thank God, it didn' t
happen to me that maybe I don' t know dads who say no.
I think you better not study that. I think out of love, because
obviously I feel that many times noteveryone knows the options, the way or
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the ways to maybe get to thiskind of dreams. But, but yeah,
I think it' s really nicepower maybe to represent those people who
dream of doing this and let themknow from my side that here' s
a friend who can inspire them andyou can tell them hey. You can
either way, but you can andwe come from the same place and here
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you have a friend forever. Butit makes me very happy, very happy,
very happy to be able to leaveand to be told you have a
super role accent and I do,I do have the days and you physically
represent the woman from Bogota. Sodon' t thank you totally or yes
very hy her. I loved talkingto you. I think you' re
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going to accumulate a lot more stories. You' re very viral. How
it happened. You represent us notonly in Bogota, but Colombia, women.
There' s a language of empowermentand they opened the doors for us
and I think you can open othersthat you' re probably going to keep
doing. So this is your Episodenumber forty- four on Backstation. Thank
you Oh, I loved it.I love you so much, and forty
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- four gave it to me,that' s food. I didn'
t love it. I loved itthanks for the space. Very happy.
My first podcast, Backstage from nowon, a new backstage where the only
restriction is that everyone can enter.It opens the door to what is not
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seen in the entertainment industry. Thetime to pass the lights, the cameras
and the microphones to the backstage
Backstage. From this moment on,a new backstage where the only restriction is
that everyone can enter. It opensthe door to what is not seen in
the entertainment industry. The time topass the lights, the cameras and the
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microphones to the backstage. It isa pleasure to have you in episode number
forty- four the Ataubert welcome backstage. You don' t know how important
it is for me to have youhere. No, or the honor is
mine I' m too excited tobe here. It' s your first
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podcast, you said it and outof microphones and first times in your career
from here on out. Yeah,but I mean, this is the debut
and I' m really happy it' s here. I have to say,
what kind of witchcraft is this thatI know you have butterfly is everywhere
and I get the hotel. Thepromo at the entrance is a giant butterfly
life seriously, I didn' tsee it. There' s a giant
butterfly in the whole entrance of thisone I think I said, it can
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' t be that I' vesquared it. He' s so perfect
in giant steel, I can't believe you, right now, I
have to see her, I didn' t see her. But that'
s a crazy story, because that' s why the butterfly started accompanying me
so much my whole life, becauseChiquita was the first words I said.
I used to say pyriposa. Okay, yeah, my little dog' s
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name is that' s what it' s called, so I did pyriposa,
and I started the first studio Iwent to. I had a butterfly
painted on the wall Then it waslike I am very energetic and with the
signals and very with God also thenI said already this is a sign where
it finds butterfly, it is alreadythere. That' s your connection and
that' s why you have butterfliesin the whole concept as an artist.
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Yeah, yeah, let' ssay, obviously, if I want to
get to that conceptual point, butfirst I want you to explain to me
a little bit what, the artisticchronology. I know your mom obviously took
part in the sound entertainment. Youcan deny it. I think you'
re very proud of this, butyou don' t have the name of
the daughter' s artist. Ifeel like from my side, yes,
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I know a lot of people likethat and I feel very apart from you,
like, on the contrary, youthank him very much, but yes,
there' s a timeline of isto get to this one. Her.
Yeah, yeah, not my momand I think so, it'
s very special and very important tohave made a part of some form of
this entertainment universe, because seeing mymom as a kid in everything she did
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saying. Besides, how amazing theywere all I was doing, it was
very fascinating. I loved seeing heron screen and learning things so fast.
That seemed crazy to me how Iimprovised and I think it' s amazing
because it was the first time.Actually, the first time I went to
a studio. It was that shewas working and a friend of hers and
some friends of them said walk themto a studio while my mom was working
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and there I recorded my first coverin life, an idea of him.
I said my God this is whatI want to do then. I think
that' s where my mom starts. Yes, it was a very big
engine in my dreams and in whatI wanted to do, because, because
if I hadn' t believed inme anymore, I' m not sitting
here. I mean, that wouldn' t have been possible. And it
' s the fascination with entertainment.You think the environment you grew up in
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with your mom. I think it' s important when one has as a
reference and as one is very influencedby the environment. I do believe and
besides that not only that, butin my home, my grandmother, for
example, that this I always tryto tell my grandmother dances flamenco and she
stood at the tables of restaurants todance and was spectacular. She is spectacular
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and in my house they always hearda lot of music. My grandfather also
kind of always been surrounded by maybea lot of music and my mom had
a brother who passed away. Ididn' t know him. He died
in an accident, but he wasa musician, he was a musician,
he composed, he sang. Thenhe said that ok I saw the dream
for my uncle and and I thinkit does come a lot from that place,
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somehow, that depth also that youare like from the energies and so
on from those sensibilities, that Ifeel that you are too sensitive and too
much I tell them too much artists, because in which we part this and
feel the music, yes like everybeat or every guitar or every lyrics we
feel so deep and so deep.It is also due to that artistic world.
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Or why do you think? Ithink yes, I do, I
confess that, I mean, Isuffered a lot because I was already already
too sensitive and sometimes I didn't know how to handle my smaller emotions.
It was very difficult because I wascrying for everything I see a dog,
for example, on the street.I couldn' t and didn'
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t and it was that all daycrying to tears. I mean, it
was like I can' t bethat I made it very hard and I
suffered a lot and I kind ofblamed myself a lot too because it was
like my God this is about mein life or maybe things that aren'
t in my control. So yes, I mean, I don' t
know if it has anything to dowith the environment. My mom tells me
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how every time she sees me verysensitive. It' s as I already
know, but we' re goingto let humans down because if I think
that for me, if everything movesme, everything is too sensitive. I
' ve learned to hold him asfond of the subject, but yes,
I don' t know if it' s about the environment. I'
m just like that. But andit has to do with shyness, because
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I feel that one is changing andevolving and sometimes one realizes that personality is
being forged to measure. Besides,you are in a spotlite that, then,
has been your turn to face yourfears, your shyness, your sensitivity.
And it' s your turn.I mean, I think there are
things that don' t go back, but, and suddenly they become your
ferteza of what I want to see, that is, as if, of
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that weakness that you see today howit became your strength or what it has
given you like that kick Pa let' s go I think that as you
maybe advance in this race, thatis, sometimes you imagine everything as I
imagined myself with Hannah Montana, thatI imagined everything as in the series and
well, in the movie, ineverything And really has many challenges that you
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don' t know, for example, that maybe a lot in the race
happens to you that they start comparingyou a lot and force you to compare
yourself to everything. So that's a mistake, because I always do
That' s ridiculous what I'm going to say, but I always
said OK. If you compare onelemon to another, ask for lemon,
which we did both OK, becauseit' s the same. Let'
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s see what tastes different. However, they are different, because they are
different touches. But you better comparetwo desserts, but two people, two
artists, three artists. I feelthat every human being has precisely its reality,
its past, that they can't, that is, you can
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' t compare two people because youcan' t, that' s not
valid. So I think the mostimportant challenges. Obviously, that' s
when I started to feel maybe atsome point not the audience, but people
around me. I started to feellike those comparisons with other people. He
gave me a hard time. Idon' t know if because of that
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sensitivity, but I fell into ahorrible hole. I don' t confess
anymore, I didn' t wantto do anything anymore. I said either
I mean it can' t belike it' s a comparison, like
physics or how I sang, likeI sang the way I wanted to express
myself many times to listen to myselfin an environment like this is very difficult,
because obviously it' s like thiscomparison and I remember that of course
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I fell into a hole where Ithought and I said" pucha".
Nothing I do is enough. NothingI do is enough. I can'
t sit down, okay? Iworked everything, I am very much of
sitting down to analyze, to study, to see what is happening in the
world, in every way. Imean, I' m trying to be
very clear, but obviously I feltokay with all this, that effort.
I did like three videos a day, singing, doing everything by writing with
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my friends, everything and nothing wasenough. Then and I think I fell
into that hole I hope never tocome back from, but nothing. My
mom reminded me of a phrase shetold me when I was younger that happens
a lot, I was very shyright now that you said I was too
shy. Joke. I feel thatbecause I feel I identify from some point
to continue with the story, becauseI feel that sensitivity with a subject of
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introspection and shyness, I was toofeared. My mom was the one who
made me sing in public. Ididn' t want, I was like
not doing this to me that inmarriage, that at the party, that
in the fifteens, that why itgoes on, why not of everything And,
obviously, when that already, obviouslybecause it was advancing and already that
I started to lose it like thatfear, thanks to her, because if
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not I would, that is,after singing to thousands of people. This
if I couldn' t do it. But yeah, I think that kind
of thing, like the comparison.Going back to that is it' s
very is, very difficult, becausefor me to get out of that hole
so difficult that it was the onethat made me write a song that was
called growing up, which was thefirst song that I can really say I
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wrote for myself. That song wasn' t coming out. That song was
for me because I didn' tknow how else to express to the people
who love me that are worried aboutme, that I was really tired of
this, of how I felt,of how they made me feel, not
them, but in the place whereI was surrounded by people who maybe didn
' t want the best for me. And obviously, I think what you
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did teach me from that moment totoday was that I had two options or
I had two options or I hadto sink and not go on and get
back here and I don' tknow what it would have been like for
me to study something else or sayok gets aberraced. Looks like my mom
traveled all the way out of thatbed It was like nothing we' re
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gonna do. I don' tknow how we operate and I feel that
that sensitive reitivity, even though it' s still in me, I feel
like the skin is starting to geta little thicker, that is, it
' s starting or not like you' re using that sensitivity to handle it
differently. The phrase your mom toldyou about my mom' s phrase was
that when I was younger and Iwent to an academy or a program to
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compete with other kids, I toldmy mom no. Not my mom,
I mean, this can' tbe me, not me, I mean,
you listen to me, you mean? I don' t sing like
that and I can' t competeagainst those kids and my mom tells me,
you know what you were gonna say. Maybe you don' t sing
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like he does and I don't, so thank you, then I
' m good. If I don' t sing like him, I know
I don' t, he hasto remember. But he tells me,
but you know he doesn' tsing like you do. She doesn'
t sing like you and you don' t sing like her because they'
re unique and unrepeatable both of them. No one can sing like you and
you can' t sing like themeither. And everyone has their own special
thing. Sure. I remembered thatI had it back there and it was
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like that. That' s whatit is, and it' s just
that I feel that the subject isvery cliché about self- esteem, but
I think all you' re talkingabout is that we build ourselves all the
time or we deconstruct ourselves all thetime with that lack of self- esteem
of wanting to be like someone orbecause we kind of don' t take
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it as an inspiration, but thatcomparison, that lack of self- esteem.
And all of a sudden you,with that voice and not literal,
but with that power that you haveand not literal, can come right with
these messages, not as total,which is important, yes, and also
to you has happened, because itis that the people who believe it is
from night to morning that you arrived. Surely, what you' re doing
today is thanks to those moments.Don' t doubt it, no and
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I think obviously, already after alot of sitting down, analyzing me,
studying me and taking that sensitivity thatI always ask me is how my super
power never when you do analyse andyou love yourself like not if you study,
because, for example, when youlike someone, you don' t
focus and you like the other personwhat, but you never know each other.
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I' m enough and I didmy homework. I did the homework
and hug myself and love myself withmy sensitivity, with my vulnerability, so
much so that all my songs areas vulnerable as possible, because I want
to leave my heart and my honestythere and what I like as my super
power. Then I understood that thereare no more people ready, maybe they
will see it as I see it, but if there are people who feel
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like I feel, and that forme is all I mean, that'
s enough and draw very clearly andgiving like the horses that my mom tells
me with her eyes. So ofcourse, don' t look anywhere and
draw the dreams and draw that innergirl who has dreamed her whole life of
singing and doing songs, and thatone who danced in the room with Taylor
Suit and super happy. That's the girl I want to protect whenever
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all of a sudden the race theclear artist hits bottom to get to know
each other, know what they want, explore constantly producing sounds not like understanding
your date with other people. Imean, it' s hard knowledge,
but I also think there are otheredges that need a lot of money to
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move around, to not know fora lot of things. It takes a
lot of financial resources today to startyour career or you can just viralize a
song from your home room. Imean, I think there' s two
faces to that. I do.I think, anyway, always chasing dreams
is going to be a big challenge. I mean, I do think I
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don' t know. Example,when I went to America, my mom,
that is, she was my support, but there came a point where
I had to help her, becausewe couldn' t both alone. Then
I got in and started teaching singingclasses in the United States to children and
I was also doing my videos withtwo, watching my songs, but all
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in one. I mean, Ikind of feel like anything' s possible.
But obviously, I also had myeffort and help my mom and my
family, because that is an effortnot only of one, but of all
the people who love you. Nowthat, obviously, yes, I think
there is today, yes, thereis an ease and a blessing that with
discipline is achieved that it is mein pandemic made three videos a day and
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published them everywhere studying and everything withoutneed. I didn' t show my
face on social media. I,before, I mean, it was a
mystery, I would go up coversrecording like the landscape and put the voice
in the background. Yeah, yeah, and then, since I kind of
started showing my face, I startedputting up songs and so I started creating
like that beautiful community that today iswhat' s called our shelter. And
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that' s been like the biggestchallenge. But yeah, I think today
you can have your cell phone,so whatever it is and upload a video
every day and I think it's again if it brings fruit to me.
Thank God. I think my experiencehas been that the constancy. There
are days when you may be dawningand I don' t want to do
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anything at all, but it's my turn, I mean, I
don' t let you earn meanything. That' s how you already
have laziness. Well, it's gonna take you ten minutes of twenty
- four hours a day to doit. I am already very curious always
about creative processes. I think thatevery human being doesn' t care what
is dedicated if you cook, ifyou are an engineer or architect, you
have a creative process to dress,to cook, to fix your house,
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to decorate. I don' tknow for artists. Evidently, it arises
from the nothingness of silence to listento a lot of music, to read
books and calls me a lot ofcuriosity, because it is also as all
the time as well as very observantand very much of what happens and also
of one' s own experiences.How you create your songs, what is
your creative process that inspires you.Better I, so far, has been
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very nice to me is to findout how that shelter in songs and more
power, how to tell those storiesthat maybe at the time I didn'
t have a chance to write themor share them. I feel that that
' s a way to close thecycle or heal then as long as every
time we sit down depends on thesong, it depends on the process,
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but lately it' s to sitdown and I return to my inner teen.
So I got back at that timeit' s like what I lived,
what this was and there are specificthings that maybe that teenager would have
loved to hear songs that would havetold his story exactly, like what happened
to the most recent song, whichis being able to tell detail by detail
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in what I lived. And it' s very nice, because anyway,
these songs come more than anything froma very nice team process as well.
I mean, it' s notjust me ever, I mean, whenever
I can say it, this isfrom a very big teamwork. How is
your good team, my creative team. Speaking of the creative part, we
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' re good Kevin, who's my producer, who' s my
key in everything with him, wealways sit down and with him as a
psychologist. Besides, because you haveto deal with all these strong stories and
well, we always call friends invitedto write these songs, but it'
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s always the two of us andalways what we do in our creative process
is or what we need to talkabout your life, so that' s
what it takes to say. SoI feel like you live so many things,
every day, so many emotions,I' m so sensitive and I
feel everything triple. There' salways a little book full of things that
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I know I want to say Ineed to write with days is by hand.
We always do, we all doit by hand, too. Either
or or well, it also happensto depend on what you feel. Sometimes
it' s the cell phone.Sometimes we' re on the street and
something comes up like no more orit' s time to have it already,
but if it' s us andwell, it' s a team
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already, obviously already extending it,a giant team of friends that today I
can call friends, but they're a beautiful team, that take care
of specific tasks of the project,that make the project grow and be her
project, but it' s everyone' s project. I mean, it
' s very special. And thatsound. Not how you gradually found that
sound, because if I hear it, I know it' s hela and
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that I think is that identity fromyour authenticity, what you said as she
doesn' t have two and it' s a sound. I call it
a little dramatic, because there islike one, like some. I don
' t know how to call themlike a scream of passion like a passionate
voice and even the sounds, likethey start the songs, get to those
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sounds and especially today that you're so viral where what I think is
more viral, we' ve beenturning the reggaeton over to it for many
years and it comes this lyrics andit catches us all, because I feel
it' s amen. Not fromthere, well. I really feel that
for me, at this point inmy career, I also think that I
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' ve been a very young popgirl since I grew up, I'
m swifting. I mean, youknow, being the biggest fan of all,
well, I was already with HannahMontar, I was wearing my wigs,
that is, Mily, all theAnglo music. Even though I hear
everything, I listen urban, Ilisten pop, I listen danced, I
hear everything, but I was alwaysa pop girl that is me, I
always loved those lyrics. I livedmy first tesa with rex without having it,
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i e all bad, i eI was that kind of Persian that
I listened to the songs. Isaid poor, but I didn' t
live it then, but I understandyou I love you and so I think
it really was a very nice processwhat I said about hugging me a lot
of understanding and that for me itis important to be able to transmit that
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one. I don' t knowif it' s angry, if I
' ve fallen in love, ifI' ve been in love, if
it' s because they broke myheart. So, it' s ugly
to convey that rage that gave mea broken heart. And if it'
s sad, because it sounds untilI' m crying in the song now
that you say you' re SWIFTand I don' t know if you
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' re sure you have, becauseif you study everything that' s going
on in the world, you've studied the Taylor Swift phenomenon, which
is all the relationships you' vehad and just a little while ago I
listened to a theory that seemed interestingto me, because everyone questions themselves.
I mean, I' m notsuifte, but I do get a lot
of attention. I connect with somesongs, but especially as a phenomenon,
I say what happens and that's what it is is teen singing stories
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that have no voice, that weknow him all the boyfriends, but that
she doesn' t say it towidow voice, but I did it with
her songs, her fandom not andalso your closeness. I feel like you,
with your community, built it awesome. Yeah, not me with Taylor,
sharing my experience as Swifty. Tome of the memories that I remember
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most, it was the computer thatchubby before watching YouTube and watching her videos
and feeling her like a princess.I already visualized her as a princess,
as if she were from Disney,I mean, like her songs and the
way she sang and told her storiesinspired me a lot, I mean,
it was more than anything, likethat way to keep the inner child alive.
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It' s that yes, thetheory is basically that it' s
a very well told Disney story,that goes for all ages and that you
can see it at any exact momentand it' s timeless. I mean,
I' m gonna be a fanuntil I' m ninety- five,
I mean, that' s notgonna change. And that' s
what we say. It happens tome a lot, too. Let'
s say now with the people whosupport me and with the people who allow
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me to fulfill these dreams that Ihave since Chiquita, that I tell them
that those are our dreams. Ialways make them part of because without them
there' s nothing. It's been very nice, because they'
ve seen from scratch the growth we' ve had together, because they'
re part of everything. They chosesometimes choose and on this occasion how it
happened, they chose the name ofthe song. I mean, they'
re part of a whole creative processas well and in the way I express
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myself, the way they make mefeel about them. It' s all
about it and in the end,when we released the first song, in
which I was too sad about whatI was telling you at the beginning,
when there were so many people connectingto a song so I wasn' t
supposed to leave my room. Thatwas the moment when I realized these people,
I' m going to take themin a little drawer for my whole
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life and they' re going tobe part of my life forever, because
they made me feel alive and accompaniedand that I wasn' t a weirdo
that was feeling bad alone look attalking about weirdo. I think it'
s important to be a weirdo abouteverything and defend that authenticity. Yes and
you connect with the eleven or eleven, with the butterflies, with the energies
you feel perceived surely that sensitivity hasgiven you that too developed intuition and elevated
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manifests grow that in the manifestation,you visualize, you write what your technique
is and speak to me all thisscroll. Well, I, from Chiquita,
the eleven and eleven I found it, just like with the butterfly,
everywhere, but with my mom wehave the game and in the family it
was to see some signs, itwas to make a wish. Then we
all have to make a wish andmanifest something. And I believe a lot,
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I am very much of God,of my energies. I protect them.
I take care of them because ifI think the word and the energy
has a lot of power, sixmonths ago I recorded a video of me
with how it went down almost cryingbecause you felt it had a lot of
faith, I mean, with alot of faith I look at myself in
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the Chamber and I say someday I' m going to sing this song in
a stadium. I promise. It' s going to be amazing and this
is going to happen one day,three doritos after punk cat of yes happens
this way and you saved it foryou there is not I raised it and
I shared it because of course this, for me, that' s how
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you' re already putting it aloneand it' s me I think this
is about the exact universe. Ido believe, I believe a lot in
that and I do believe that thereis a very important power to be positive,
to dream, to believe, tohave an intact faith in what one
does. I don' t doubtanything. I say smart, let'
s do this. Okay, I, I have fans or, I have
faith in people, I have faithin everything, because I do believe that
that does call good things and thatbesides, not only that, but I
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also feel like that' s mybelief that if you have so much faith
and I have someone who looks atme every day and takes care that it
' s my official sponsor, ifI have so much faith in, that
doesn' t have, why nothappen. That' s how it'
s gonna happen. We' regoing to work hard. But yeah,
I think there' s a veryimportant phase, because it' s believing
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in you that what you want towalk and happens happened to me and it
keeps happening to me and it's going to keep happening to you.
And you didn' t open upexpensive Gis because she' s the best
friend of Gi cars. Precisely thatpeople believe how easy ay is to have
it. Obviously, it' salready viral. Then it' s not
like that. No, no,no, no, it was an equal
conversation, very nice between the twoteams, but I can say that of
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the nicest things that left me allthis, especially because I sang Carol'
s songs at school with my friends. I mean, this is like and
I have been two or three yearsalso since I entered as already professional artist
level, to enter the place inthe guild. For me, I'
ve always been watching her the wholetime. I said I admire her very
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much. I really want to belike her someday. She' s very
hard, that' s discipline,she' s got her family around.
She' s a good person.I mean, the amazing showstans. I
couldn' t believe that night beyondeverything was being able to meet him and
thank him for inspiring me every day. So I do, I think it
was, I mean, he didtell you punctually that you' re never
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gonna forget. I think for youto laugh, I' m gonna start
crying. And I mean, itwas really her and I loved that I
told her I' m going tocry, I mean, ripping them off
like I' m going to cryand she tells me you don' t
drop your makeup and you can't cry. I mean, she has
to be perfect and contact me andthat sounds silly to me, but I
was saying. You' re absolutelyright. Don' t cry any more
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about what we' re talking aboutsensitivity and magic tugo, already, already,
now, no more, then,yes, I think more than anything,
for me that moment was also ofpower at last to thank you in
person for what I was saying toyou. Thank the person, not only
for allowing me to accompany him onhis night, but the inspiration, the
inspiration he is and his sister,also Jessica, to whom she has two
gold and who also it was forher that I was there tonight too.
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It' s a lot of hardstuff. They' re tough, tough
family, green. Wow. Myrespects are incredible. I love them and
admire them very much. I don' t know if you' ve heard
the butterfly phrase related to love,and it' s that the more you
chase is a butterfly that moves furtheraway than love, and it' s
like you stand still and soon thebutterfly gets on top of you? Or
Way, I haven' t heard. I love that, it' s
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true, and it' s likelove if you stay still, suddenly it
gets on you? It' strue what you think today about relationships and
love, because obviously, we alreadyknow that you fell in love with almost
something and you didn' t tellit about what happened and I think it
' s a very common story.But how you see it, how you
perceive it and, above all,suddenly your friends. I think counting my
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life already, what do you callit personally, I think that little girl.
I feel like I made a mistakeof maybe idealizing a lot when life
isn' t about that and Ithink it' s the same all,
maybe or all, if in everyoneI don' t exclude anyone that everyone
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always feels when it' s thatfirst time, because that first time you
feel something for someone different, yourparents or your mom, which is the
people you love, that is,you love them. Those first times you
don' t know what to door how to act or how it works.
So it did happen to me that, for example, the first times,
or it was when you start tobe or that you are very intense,
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then that you were also taught intonces those processes that you are not
so intestate. Let him talk ifhe lets you talk for two hours,
stop talking for three. Then Isaid strategic, what is this so crazy,
and until that moment I said good. I confess I did, but
it was like I don' tfeel good doing this is stupid. As
it is possible, if you're supposed to be happy talking to someone,
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then being happy, obviously not acting, rar, not being intense,
not being weird. But, Imean, I did think like because it
can' t be so easy anddo things, simple things, because to
do the most difficult, most interesting, when already, obviously, for me,
among all these learnings grow and obviouslyI already hope and believe that he
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already, at twenty- four yearsold, I feel and see things very
different, that things are not ascomplicated as he didn' t do before.
I was very complicated and we madethe decisions, but it' s
important to make them and fail.Yeah, we' re a lot closer
to a good decision soon. Yeah, well, as my grandmother said,
it' s been a little whilesince we' re in a broken heart
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less than finding the work of ho' s life, yes, I think
it' s necessary, yes,it' s super necessary. If you
don' t learn, you don' t learn from anything, I think
that, yes, is very important. I love shitting her. I mean,
I don' t love you,but with life. It' s
important in life. Without that,you don' t know how to move
forward. It' s very important. And yes, there' s another
(29:52):
thing I loved that I heard onceand it was that success is kind of
grounded on failure, I mean,there' s failure and so there'
s success, then you have toshit or. And finally, I want
to close a bit with the movingBogota because I feel that Colombia, even
culturally, socially, in the economicpart, in all the music, has
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taken us to another level that is, without a doubt, Colombia has the
best artists. It' s notbecause I' m Colombian, but I
just feel. But I do feellike we have the best artists. I
feel that sociocultural or that what theconcerts move, the artists, we are
on a super important level and Ithink that the artists have put us to
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speak a language, a language hasmade us dress different. In other words,
entertainment and music in Colombia have beenvery important. I have no doubt
about this, but I really likewhat' s going on in Bogotá,
which I feel needed to be raised. Yes, I think it' s
very nice, especially because I alsofeel I don' t know if I
(30:55):
' m wrong what I' mgoing to say, but that I'
ve always felt Bogotá, as wellas a pop cunita and it inspired me
a lot, that is, tosee how the artists who are from here
and that I admire Morat example thatI was in school, I saw them,
I said Guau, that is tosay I became a fan of one
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and yes, I think it's very nice, because it' s
very beautiful also especially I who amaway from home and being able to tell
about the city where I grew up, where that inspiration came from, where
those dreams came from, of power, that is to take away this city
that really gave me and gives meall the time to be able to represent.
That' s very cute and Ithink it' s very important also
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maybe for me to give like thatmessage to young people who also want to
be an artist, who are here, in this city, because I feel
that many times what happens to me. Thank God, it didn' t
happen to me that maybe I don' t know dads who say no.
I think you better not study that. I think out of love, because
obviously I feel that many times noteveryone knows the options, the way or
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the ways to maybe get to thiskind of dreams. But, but yeah,
I think it' s really nicepower maybe to represent those people who
dream of doing this and let themknow from my side that here' s
a friend who can inspire them andyou can tell them hey. You can
either way, but you can andwe come from the same place and here
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you have a friend forever. Butit makes me very happy, very happy,
very happy to be able to leaveand to be told you have a
super role accent and I do,I do have the days and you physically
represent the woman from Bogota. Sodon' t thank you totally or yes
very hy her. I loved talkingto you. I think you' re
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going to accumulate a lot more stories. You' re very viral. How
it happened. You represent us notonly in Bogota, but Colombia, women.
There' s a language of empowermentand they opened the doors for us
and I think you can open othersthat you' re probably going to keep
doing. So this is your Episodenumber forty- four on Backstation. Thank
you Oh, I loved it.I love you so much, and forty
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- four gave it to me,that' s food. I didn'
t love it. I loved itthanks for the space. Very happy.
My first podcast, Backstage from nowon, a new backstage where the only
restriction is that everyone can enter.It opens the door to what is not
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seen in the entertainment industry. Thetime to pass the lights, the cameras
and the microphones to the backstage
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