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March 4, 2025 • 46 mins
Grace and Connor are introduced to the Pirate academy; a posh boarding school where children are sent to learn about stealing, murder, and how to eat caviar. These pirates are sounding more corporate at each page turn. Christina and Vittorio talk about the connection between Claddagh rings and 9-11

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A sexy day with Daddy is school. I'm and read
these teamble Mamma's book plus, so grab your buzzy and listen.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Boh, hey, guys, hey guys, you're mix Maoria.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Holding mic down. No one can hear you here. It comes,
it comes slowly, you like my bones. We're on the
episode three.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
With last episode we left off, Jezz died, resurrected career
Christina Inventorio shared very heartfelt funeral stories and then I
was like, well, Jess is alive again less than a
day later.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
So don't believe it. And just to follow on from
last episode, I did look up with the history of
the clatter Ring. Just for people who want that can pay.
I did look it up. So essentially the symbol itself
is from Clatta in Galway, shocker, and it was the
symbol of the fishing Kings of Clada. There's a symbol
before it was a ring. And then allegedly according to

(01:08):
clatterrings dot Com, there was a guy who was captured
as a slave and brought to Algeria where he became
like a goldsmith, which is a pretty dope thing.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
To be slave was another word for apprenticeship.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Apparently, anyways, not to downplay it probably sucks really bad.
But before he was taking as a slave, he was
very much in love with the lady betrothed, and so
he designed the clatter ring for her. And then when
he escaped and went back to Goalway, he gave it
to his beloved as a symbol of his undying love
for her, the symbol of strength and love and friendship.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Was she still single when he came back?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Apparently?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Do you want to talk about nine to eleven?

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah? Please please please.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Tell Clatterings dot com there's this beautiful long bit about
the Clada history. They never explained where the placement thing
comes from. It's just like taken as a thing. Yeah,
and then they jump into like clatter rings and nine
to eleven. The cluttering is a symbol of strength and
hope in dire times, and firefighters wore this ring to

(02:14):
show their their bravery in the face of danger, and
people wore it to show unity. It's like, whoa Like.
I never thought Clatterings had such a powerful impact on
nine to eleven, But here we are.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder if you could get away
with having a cluttering that looks like a plane.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh god, let's go, let's move.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
I'm sorry stealing an iconic symbol of the Irish for
your freaking local event.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, okay, cool people, local event nine eleven was a
little bit more than a local local events.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Three thousand people died and that was you know how
many people have died since then? Well, America copp had
bonded the Middle East in oblivion, and there.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Was some There was also something like a fun kind
of not fun, a fact that isn't fun. Were more
firefighters have now died as a cause of nine to
eleven than actually died in nine to eleven itself. This
is the first year as a cause of due to
like the chemicals that they were exposed to, and like yeah,
that kind of stuff, like the like the actual legacy stuff.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Proving once again that rist birators are actually important. I'm
just saying, oh sha.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
That's interesting, okay. Yeah, is what to let people know that,
as of this recording, nine to eleven was like four days.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Ago, so comedians just didn't go near it.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I know what what Paul always likes to say on
every November ninth, He's like, oh, this is Europe's nine
to eleven.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
There was actually a comic. You mention that, oh, this
is yes firus, Yes, but November nine. What's the issue?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
What our nine to eleven? Yeah, anyways, guy, nine eleven
is a is a topic that we will gracefully avoid
and move back to the vampires. I don't know why
you brought up nine to eleven. Christina was actually very disrespectful. Sorry, yeah,
jewelry especially you know how nine to eleven affects my family.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
My aunt's birthday is on niology. You don't want to.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Remember they attacked New York and in now Chicago was
on the target list.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
I'm always in Texas. I do want to say I did.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I did have a blonde moment the other day because
my aunt's birthday is nine to eleven, and I like
I got her. I got my uncle this like birthday
gift once. It was for his Yeah, for his birthday.
It was like the sports book of like every sporting
event that happened on that day. It was like newspaper
clippings or whatever. And my and my aunt is like

(04:44):
really into you know, US history and whatever. So I
was thinking, like, oh, I I saw this same book
online where you go and the Washington Post will print
out a newspaper article of every day of their birth,
so you enter the year. And I was telling Paul
about this, like, oh, this would be a great gift
for my aunt. And you looked at me and he
was like, your your aunt Mollie who's born on September eleventh.

(05:10):
He was like, you know, I was like, oh, right her, Yeah,
the newspaper articles get a little depressing.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Two.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
But she wasn't born on September eleventh, two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
No, No, but it would be like every year, every
like a book. So she's in her sixteenth.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Up until two thousand, it'll be fine, and then after
two thousand and one and just get a little bit monotonous.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
No, it's just on the day of your birth would
be like the first forty the first forty pages are
would be like oh dog rescues local boy. Sorry, And
then then it's only twenty one, So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
She was only twenty. If you was only twenty one,
then it would be only nine to eleven articles.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
I'm just pandering to I'm Molly. I'll always pander for
you at Molly.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, she's pretty cool. So I did not get her.
I got her. Are some tequila shot glasses instead's so
bad ass?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Can I start the episode with a question that I've
just been pondering for a little while. Are you pondering
if you guys could live forever? How long would you
live for?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (06:13):
I don't know about what part of forever? Did you
not do it?

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Okay? Well no, some people don't want to do that.
It's just an interesting It depends.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
I mean, what sort of life do you have? If
you've got an in vulnerable body, then that's one thing.
But living constantly until your ashes but you're still alive.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I don't feel like that's you know, you live like
you know, like fine, Like let's say.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
You have the health of like a thirty five year
old forever?

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah? Average, fine, a little creaky you was.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
A thirty five year old. Maybe I remember what I
was like around thirty five, and wasn't that good?

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah? Twinser two? But like nothing you know, keep you humble?
Ye know?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
The thing about being and only enough? It has come
up in the podcast what happens when you have nothing
but time? Eventually you just start becoming really eccentric, You
go crazy crazy, I'm really cruel. Oh yeah that was
because of vampires that lived for so long, yet they're

(07:07):
going after these young girls. Well, if you look seventeen,
and I think my wife mentioned this to me, said,
if you look seventeen, that's fine for you today, a
seventeen year old. And then your point was that exactly
if you don't have your mental capacity is so far
beyond a seventeen year old because you've seen so much shit,

(07:28):
you've hearn so much stuff. So it's the thing of
unless you somehow have an incredible curiosity and don't have
a megalamoniacal bent in you, you're basically going to be
an observer to history because you can live in an
area of like with the colors, you can live in
an area for twenty years and then you have to
move because you have to now explain why you don't age.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Some I've had a very interesting answer. It's not yours.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Obviously.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
That was kind of a pump about. Really, he gave me.
If you asked to my question was a question, Well.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
If I had to choose, I mean, if I had
to choose how what form of living forever, it would
be Vandal Savage from the DC comic books. He was
a cave man ten thousand about ten thousand BC or more,
meteorite crashes into the ground. Everybody else flees. He sleeps
next to the fire pit that night. In the radiation

(08:17):
he absorbs, it renders him in vulnerable. So he just
lives forever. And he then, throughout history tries to do
all his various shit, like he deposes at Olf Hitler
and uses technology from the twenty first century to win
the Second World War, and so the world becomes this
completely different place. And so I think of having that

(08:37):
sort of a life force. The only reason I would
want to live that long is I want to see
how humanity story ends. I want to see if we
actually screw the pooch, or if we become the Federation
from Star Trek we actually venture on to beyond the stars,
or do we find something out there that is so
terrifying we decide, you know what, Earth is just fine.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I don't. I have zero faith in us becoming like
the Federation par Federation.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
I mean, it's gonna be vampirates guys to stick around
for those I.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Think I'd want to maybe like five hundred.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, I think so. I give it a good go.
But I've had answers from whenever my loved ones die,
I'm I'm out. But then like the idea with that,
you're constantly making new loved ones. So like, at what
point do you you know, you have.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
To deal with the reality that whoever you love is
going to die. Yeah, that would you get to watch them? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
You know some people can you know, find peace and
beauty with being able to like kind of you know,
you get I assume you get so used to that
concept that you were able to like guide people through it.
And then some people were saying, you know, some people
were saying like, oh, I'd wait till I was called
by my creator something like that.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's very interesting finding I think, finding some kind of
purpose with the unique situation you've been given. So you're like, Okay,
I'm gonna have to be five hundred, I'm gonna watch
all my loved ones die. But I can also like
guide my lineage.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I am like something something interesting. It's like a little
little fun thing top.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I think you would need to have developed some incredible
level of zen and being able to completely live in
the moment that no matter which loved one you are with,
that you're with them during that time so that when
they go, you have spent time with them, and you
are thankful for those moments because once they're gone, they're gone.
It's that the ending scene of the Green Mile, where
it's is if he could make a mouse live for

(10:26):
so long, how much time do I have? Everyone's on
their own green mile? And you know the green Mile
seems so long when you have nothing but eternity. And yeah,
that that scene always sits with me. It is a
mouse can live that long because of John Coffee's power.
So how much time do I have? Is this is

(10:48):
my punishment? I have to watch everyone I love die?
That's it is a rough Well.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
No, my my my grandmother, my paternal grandma, who died
a year ago, she would just kind of sit there
and say like I'm the only one left, Like she
outlived her friends and siblings and cousins, and it was
she was just kind of waiting for death. But I
think another part of that is like because she was

(11:14):
so like her physical condition, she couldn't leave the house.
So there's that as well. I feel like if maybe
she was if she had you know, a better physical
body against Yeah, it's like a thirty five year old
or something, she could go out, engage in the community,
make new connections.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
But yeah, I mean, it's quality of life is what
you want. But also, five hundred years is a long time.
Think of all the random crap that can happen to
you in five hundred years that you would would you
even reach that long? Because we had shit happens could
be a card then disease.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
You could find yourself in a nine to eleven.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Yeah, bring it back right back to it.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Okay, how long? How about you? Christina? How long would you?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I would give it a good go, But I'm also
like the depress you all, but I'm very disheartened by
the state of the world currently.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh yeah, I feel I really.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Like, you know, if I could live forever, who was
like guaranteed to me that I could live forever and
nothing like? You know, then you're kind of a free agent,
you know.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
What I mean?

Speaker 4 (12:13):
And I feel like maybe maybe it would empower me
to do more, Like Okay, you're gonna arrest me, fucking fine,
try it, do you? I mean, let's see how you're
gonna have to make new laws for me because I'm
gonna Oh you got me for life?

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, what does this you speak of? It means that
there's gonna be a line of scientists sway to meet you.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, oh true, true true, Oh scary anyway, all right,
vampires hit me with.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
It, so right, So Jezz died was back to life.
But the pirates on the Diablo don't know this obviously, right,
So they go to mock Kettles to again do like
the celebrate Jazz's life at the pub. As we were
talking about that, a lot of Irish people do it
funerals here and you guys remember Mack Kettle.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Oh yes, lady with the flags on a suit made
of flags.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, it's run by Kitty is her name, or they
call her Ma as well. And it's just this pub
that a lot of pirates go to and hang out.
It's like the only pub actually that pirates seem to
hang out at. And so when the Diablo arrives, there's
loads of other pirates there from like other ships, and
everyone is so sad at Jess's death, like they're acting

(13:26):
like he's some sort of hero, but he was just
some twenty three year old dude that was like just
a in a in a duel, which I feel like
pirates do all the time. And they're acting like, oh,
this was so unfair, this tragic thing, which again we
all agreed that Draculist was actually kind of sound.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
But foolish, but like fair but like it could have those.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Works could have had. I feel like he had every reason?
Does he harsher? So then, like all these other pirate
captains are going up to Wrath and they're like, oh
my god, this his death was so tragic and untimely,
and Ma of ma Kettle's even like gives the entire
crew free drinks, and I'm just gonna sit in there, like, economically,

(14:14):
how does this work for her? Because pirates die all
the fucking time and more tragic ways, I'd imagine, and
more heroic ways. And she's like.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Seriously shivering some timbers.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, what's the pirate version of Diagio soot. It's the
one of the biggest like liquor and like drink distributors,
and yeah, I think so there's a.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Black Spirit, a brand of liquor, and I know the
crunk and rum that's supposed to be really good. I
mean Captain Jax, maybe this is Captain Morgan. Captain Morgan,
Captain Morgan.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, but yeah no, yeah, financially very irresponsible.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Very responsible. You can't just give like a crew free
drinks every time someone dies, because again they've all even
said like pirates rarely live past.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
The turnover rate there is pretty high. She's going to
be everything, definitely because she's shock enough.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
I mean she's the shittiest, most watered down crap ever,
like one consignment last.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Do you know.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Sorry not to make it about like other things again,
but one of our researchers, Susan Flavin, she did like
this project with food cult I think it is where
they investigated how alcoholic was the beer of olden times,
like fifteen fifteen hundreds. It was the same, Yeah, it
was equally a strong, very strong. Yeah, it was like

(15:40):
the same as like a regular beer. And they were
it was like they went through like research, like actual
like written down stuff right where like obviously being drunk
was like not a really like good hang wasn't something
that society really like was hands up, like thumbs up,
like good about But these people who are working in
the fields, that's what they got is like sometimes payment

(16:01):
or part of the payment. They would be drinking like
ten pints a day, and there was like they had
to like slashed so it's like it brought up a
lot of different questions of like drunk labor and like
how would they like stop themselves from being like that.
Did they save some of it that it drink it.
It was really really interesting because you always think it's like, oh,

(16:22):
it's not as strong, it's not as strong. It was
definitely a strong things.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
People used to drink more because water wasn't safe, so
it was it was better for you, safer for you
to drink the alcohol and.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Life was more miserable.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, I mean it was perfectly normal for as I
watch you think about prohibition and there would be this
huge cask which was full of cider and you would
take a scoop of that, like when you would come
in from the fields as a break and you take
your scoop of cider and go back out there. Because

(16:56):
there wasn't a thing of water because algae would grow
in water. Yeah, so you can't just have this thing
collecting rain water and whatnot because it's not safe for
humans to drink. Yeah, so booze was the thing. And
also it happens even now the fruit growers in South
Africa and the Cape. There's a big thing there because
of the inherent alcoholism. It breeds because people were being

(17:16):
paid in wine and not always in cash. So it
kind of can't imagine how that's going to cause a problem. Oh,
random domestic violence and run away alcoholism and all the
half problems that over there.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I miss I miss wine, dude, I miss swine. I'm
thirty one weeks pregnant right now. It's it's I was
at a hen party last night, and yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Should do that thing, don't. People Some people get champagne
for the birthing room, so like when can I guess
when you give birth? Yeah, but there's also people who
need to consider like this, considerations about breastfeeding. So yeah,
because some people just switch straight to formula and it's fine, No,
I will be I will be bress.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, you've got to get the gloss press milk. Yeah,
that's so much of the nutrients.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Welcome to Breastfeeding by book Breastfeeding.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I just yeah, yeah, Oh, I actually did researches because
I'm like I told, I told Paul, I will get
wasted on Christmas Day, like you're on baby duty because
I birthed him, so I'm getting drunk on Christmas Day.
And I did you have to research, like, okay, well
I will be giving him like breast milk. Sorry, guys.
If this is getting gross like a pump, I don't

(18:27):
like the day before refrigerated, He'll be fine. And also
if a little dude needs like formula for a day
or so, he can fucking handle it, like why is
it so needy?

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh my gosh, like like oh my god, this is
giving me the ick?

Speaker 5 (18:43):
What am I a cow for you?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
My baby's giving the aches?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
So needy? I don't Yeah, so my kettle kettle. So
they're there, and Grace happens to run into cheng li
at monck Kettle's right, and well they get along like
she Grace to women and media to sexy.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Why who's the runaway and one is the chick from
the academy. It just senses that one should look at
the other and go, I'm a kick.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
They both like it because they're both like the Diablo
ain't shit is like what they unite on common enemy?
Yeah yeah, because Grace is like I love vampirates and
Chinley is like I love my Harvard pirate stuff. They
both have weird ideas of what it is to be
a pirate. So Okay, So Grace runs into her. They

(19:30):
have like their own little corner and their own little
private conversation, and she's uh. And Grace is like, by
the way, people talk a mad shit about you on
the Diablo because like you, you're kind of a fucking
boot liquor in a way. You're like sucking up to
the Federal Pirate Federation and the Pirate Academy and you're

(19:51):
bougie and all blue blooded. And the Diablo goes against
the grain when it comes to piracy, unlike other pirates.
They don't follow the rules, right, And Chanli is like, ah,
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
I was feeling that the world government is like this
really uneasy alliance between the Pirate Federation and the race
of the world.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, but she was also an active spy, Like, of
course you're gonna have a much shit talk about you
if you're gonna be spying for Like what is the
pirate government?

Speaker 3 (20:21):
The pirate government?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Anyways, it's such a contradiction.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
She's lucky she has been stabbed.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah, genuinely, Well, this.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Is more of like Grace kind of like warning shangle.
This isn't her being like fuck you, this is just like, hey,
by the way, no, but on the street.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
She should have just expected that you can't do that
shit and think everything is going to be hunky dory.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Oh yeah, right now, Actually.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
You're not in your dorm anymore, Chinli.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
This podcast not sponsored by Honky Doors yet yet, Get
out me Tato. So then Grace, after she's chatting with
chang Li, she's like, I feel like I can trust her, right,
and she tells tell her some of her concerns about
her current situation. She's like, listen, I don't want to
be on the Diablo forever. I think Connor is getting

(21:08):
too enthralled by Captain Wrath. He's drinking the kool aid
a little bit. And he also signed these quote unquote
articles which basically binds his loyalty to Wrath for life.
It's like he signed, dude is fourteen, He's find a
life pledge.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Basically he's a landlord.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah yeah, And Grace was like, maybe it's just me,
but I feel like that was made a little too hastily.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
And all the best father figures in your life make
you sign contracts for life, right.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, that's totally Connor was groomed in his own way,
both these kids are like getting groomed in different ways,
and they're both looking at the other one like you're crazy.
I was like, no, both y'all are crazy. You're twins.
You have so much in common, which is again being crazy.
But then your own father keeps saying sometimes madness is wisdom,
so you don't fucking realize how crazy you're being.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I think at some point that their dad must have
just gotten so tired of them and got wow, both
of you are, so I'm going to give you life
life lessons that are just going to completely screw up
your day.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
But it's like they've.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Taken so as a dad, you've probably know this. Now
you're starting to develop it. But like sometimes I guess
as children, you ask like so many questions, and like
at some point, like your parents start just saying like
bullshit to you just to get you to shut up.
My parents one classic was when you're old enough, you'll understand.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Oh I hate that. They would say that to me too,
but I hate I hate I hated that because I guess, like.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
All this kind of bullshit like made uppy thing to
get you to just shut up, and they took it
so serious.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
I mean, like I get that that's that is true.
Doing old enough, you'll understand. But because that was so
annoying to me, I'm going to try to think of
something else to say. I don't know. Yeah, oh so
maybe I'll just be so fucking tired. I am like,
it's not procept me as a child.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
You're like, you're just trying to learn, and then you're
told you're too immature. Somebody's kind of insulting to you
as a kid, even though you probably shouldn't know at
that point. But it's just tricky.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, look, some of the questions I'm waiting for some
of the I'm worried about not being able to answer
the simple questions, whatever those might be. I always said,
like that not the why is the sky blue sort
of stuff, like simple questions about why people behave the
way they do because they're not got to dial down
my cynicism and related to him in a way that

(23:20):
is you know he's going to understand.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, or the hard like the hard questions like how
does the TV work?

Speaker 5 (23:26):
How does the TV work? I don't actually answer that question.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Please don't. I want to keep it as like there's
little people in the little box, No tell us all
the TV works.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Which one the cathode ray ones as old ones.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I thought you just said the Catholic Catholic TVs cat
you open it an insight, there's an angel. There's an
angel in there. She just put visions.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
You didn't know. You're welcome. So the old televisions used
to have a cathode ray gun and inside it and
the screen was coated with a folm. I don't know,
I can't remember what it was. The pixels, individual pixels.
Each of those is basically a color point, like an
electrical switch that gets turned on and off. That cathered
Reagun scans each one of those once. I think it's

(24:10):
thirty times every second. That's why you got ice trained
from those old ones. Okay, so when that goes above
thirty six a second, that's faster than we perceive color.
So that's why sixty frame per second and eighty frame
per second on the new monitors doesn't hurt your eyes.
Because if you ever pointed a camera at an old
TV and you saw those bars, grain cuts, But those

(24:31):
bars are the scans. So yeah, that's what it's saying.
It's going to so it scans that up and down
and that's how it projects the screen.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
And how does this how does it get the images
through waves? That's I don't know, probably see that's all, okay.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
It's basically broadcasting an electrical signal. It's probably got something
like it's a processor that changes it from one form
to another and projects the image. I mean, the original
television as far as I wasn't even a television. It
was made back Equal Fonds with The image was that
big and you could vaguely see what a person looked like.
But it was this enormous contraption to generate this image

(25:09):
that big.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
So cool, thank you, Victorial.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
It's about two inches by.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Two inches, like the size of your palm, kind of
even probably smaller.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, nobody got my joke. That's okay.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
It's two inches is the average you've been encountering that.
I'm concerned.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
No, don't talk to me, Just let me have my
funny joke.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
It was just the podcast.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
I was concerned for you.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
I hope your boyfriend doesn't listen to.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
What he's going to do. I need to disclaimer. Let
me think. Let's just talk about pirates. Okay, So yeah,
I'm very happy in my relationship.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Moving on.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
So Anyways, Changley when she hears about like Connor's enthrallment
with Wrath and the Diablo, she's also a little concerned.
And she said, as you know, the word on the
nautical newswire is that Connor is a pirate prodigy. That's
that's a direct quote.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
It's not like other pirates.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, okay. So she's like, yeah, it's kind of
you know, kind of yeah, basically he's an orphan and everything.
And so then Grace asks chang Lee, like, by the way,
Dracula said that you were a spy, is that true?
And chang Lee basically admits that it's true. She's like, yeah,
I'm totally a spy, Like I was totally spying on

(26:30):
Captain Wrath.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
She's honest.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
And here's a quote. I do work for the Pirate Federation.
The Federation exists to further the cause of piracy throughout
the world, to consolidate the power we have on the oceans,
and to develop a global network of pirate fleets working
in peaceful cooperation. Wrath fails to respect other captain sealans.
He is motivated solely by the lure of a quick

(26:53):
buck and colorful adventure venture to swell his ego.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
That sounds straight out of a pressure release.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
But it's also like he he described a fucking pirate.
He's he's motivated by like money, buy money, and adventure.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
He's acting like an og pirate. We need him to
be a corporate pirate. Yeah, that's the problem. He's an
independent operator in the world where the big can glins.
So this is essentially Walmart pirates. Yeah, yeah, this is
the story.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
And she's clearly been brainwashed by big pirates.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, she's been brainwashed.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
Who are you, mister no longer captain? I upgraded doctor, doctor?

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yes, doctors get your PhD in piracy? Like, oh god,
I love it if they brought like a modern Somalian
pirate to this and just fucked shut up.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
I don't think so, but carry on.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
So Chengley ends up scaring Grace into thinking like, look,
I if Connor is gonna stay with the Diablo, he's
gonna die, even though it's like I feel like all
pirates everywhere again are gonna die at a young age,
it's not unique to this particular ship. But she's like,
well you can, you should convince Connor to join the
pirate Academy and while he's there, he could potentially find

(28:08):
a new captain, so again not quitting piracy, just I
don't know, just yeah. So Grace is like, that's a
good idea. We can you know, it'll be a good
time to separate him from his weird obsession with Wrath.
So Grace finds Connor and she convinces him to try
out the Pirate Academy for just a week. She's like,

(28:28):
by the because I'm like really concerned about your safety.
And then in the same conversation, he's like, okay, cool,
a week at the academy, that's whatever. We'll both go
and then we'll go both go back to the Diablo
and I'll do this because you're so concerned about my safety.
And then she's like, okay, we'll go to the Pirate
Academy for a week, but you'll go back to the

(28:51):
Diablo and I'm gonna go find the vampirates after. And
he's like, the fuck you said you're concerned about my safety,
like you're trying to make all these decisions for us.
But then you're like, I'm gonna go hang out with
some vampires when we're done.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, like double standards.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
So she's going to the law academy.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Oh you got him all those lawyers listening burned.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, and he keeps He's telling her, He's like, why
are you saying your word about my life when you
want to go rejoin some bloodsuckers? And she's like, Oh,
that's just your opinion. You don't know them like I do.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Is that an actual line?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
No, No, I'm just paraphrasing.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
God.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
So the next day they go to the Pirate Academy
because yeah, Captain rath Connor's like, I want to go
to the Pirate Academy for a week. Wrath is like, yeah, no,
worries go have fun.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
They just yeah, they've got is amazing.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
That's both true.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Okay, that's both kids.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Gotta get some book learning.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
It is like a hog It is like Hogwarts, but
for pirates, like it's very bougie. It's very immaculate.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
They wear like a ship to where ships a ship's
bell and sorts them. They have to ring it three times.
It says, what do you want to be? You're in
this house, you're.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
In the Yeah, what would be the different houses that
a pirate academy?

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Wang the yard?

Speaker 4 (30:15):
I always say that would be the different seas that
beat theos the Atlantic House.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Then there'd be like seven houses. That's going to be
a long movie.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah why not.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I mean, like this guy, it's your book. You can
know as many houses as you want.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
But yeah, I think, yeah, it's interesting that they're all
like fuck the system, but also yeah, go to school, buddy.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, they're like fuck the system, but also obey the system.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
It's the kids are The kids are reading these books,
kids are reading you. That's why.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
School.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
This is Hogwarts. This is like Harry Otter but with
pirates is what this is. So the school's motto, which
is printed on the front is plenty andieta. She I
can't believe. I can't print. Oh this is are you
coming s A t I E t y like st

(31:05):
A I E t y, like say like sat eight,
like satiated, like satiated. But I don't think that's associated
plenty and saety.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
I'm looking at it.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Oh, I'm the host of a podcast that talks about books,
and I can't work.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
All right, can we get it to play on one second? Sorry,
this is really good for your audio podcast.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Society.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, like satiated the first Plenty and Society society.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
There we go so lots of stuff and you're satisfied.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Pleasure and ease, liberty and power, those are the that's
the I don't like when they're talking about.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Pleasure in a school.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't child. No, there's like six year olds at
this school.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
No, I'd rather you didn't do that. Actually, I think
that means the ethos there needs to be revisited.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
They are pirates. It is a school, but pirates.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
There's a school. If they did almate there.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
They don't know what they're about. They really don't know
what they're about. It's just so many contradictions. So because
in Cheng Lee explains the motto to the twins and
she's like, taking everything you want and then everything else. Besides,
of course, these days, piracy is much more complex and
subtle than that.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Why do I get the feeling that this is a
stopgap measure? What do you mean to stop that piracy?
The corporates to the world needed to find a way
to keep the pirates under control. So the Pirate Federation exists,
the Pirates School exists. I'm probably injecting way more thinking
into this than Sampa did. But you know, if you're

(32:43):
going to have something like this, at least you know
you need a reason. I see a conspiracy pretty much anyway,
says the Ring of Trump's head.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I gave both Christina and Vittorio Trump mugs, which
were both given to me as gag gifts. I did
not spend money on these mugs, but yeah, I thought
you guys would appreciate it. So they met the headmaster
of the Pirate Academy all this, Dumbledore.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
No, I wouldn't have been surprised, Like when you said that,
I was very accepting as that.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
No, it's this guy named Commander ku Oh, and him
and Connor get along really well. Ku O ku oh
k u oh. Yeah. Yeah. So he's talking to Connor
and Grace about the Pirate Academy. He's like, our students
come from the very best pirate families. We have rigorous

(33:35):
entrance exams and interviews.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Okay, which considering that most pirates were illiterate and joined
it because well, there was no other way to survive.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, Like, if you're very if you're incredibly educated, then
why won't you go be a doctor or something.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
If you want to join the navy, get a commission.
If you were wealthy enough, you could buy a commission,
so you could be in charge of a ship without
ever having gotten any real understanding of shit.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
It's so annoys, like, yeah, it's this like kind of
last chance saloon kind of option for people is like
so elite now it's like, oh we're yeah. It's very
like classes in alas.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
What's it called when a bunch of rich people move
into like a low end This is like gentrification of
the streets, gentrification that they've gentrified. Pirates should be a tile.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Yeah, you gentrified pirates, twits.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
So there's some of the classes are combat workshop, marine biology,
oh okay, practical piracy, ocean firing, parcy one on one,
maritime survival, Yeah, scurvy.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Enemy orangs are your friends.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
So Chang Lee introduces Connor to this other student named Jacoby,
who is the top student at this academy, and it's
quite obvious that, like Cheng Lee is trying to stir
some kind of friendly competition between them, like, oh, Connor
here is a prodigy and Jacoby is a top student.
Ha ha, you guys got a lot of and it works.

(35:14):
Connor's like, Connor sees right through this, but he's like yeah, sure,
like I like this guy, will be friends, but also
I gotta beat him for the best to be number one.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Meanwhile, while they're going on this little tour, Grace passes
out on the academy grounds. Everyone's just thinks she's taking
a nap, right, so really presented, and so she passes out,
and then she is astrally projected to the Vampiate's ship.
It's not explanas this, this happens.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
This is what happens when you hang around shitty jewelry.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, so she goes hangs out, she finds Darcy and
she's like, guess what, I'm the one who see through now,
And Darcy's like, look, the vampire captain found out I've
visited you, and he got really mad at me and
he told me that I'm nothing but a useless piece
of driftwood.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Okay, so much to unpack. How the fuck did he
find out?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I don't know, And.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
What a horrible thing to say.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah, you're just a piece of.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
I just once would like her to warp through to
Darcy when she's just the figurehead. So it comes to
this Darcy face for an audio media.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
He pulled a great face. Guys, that was just like
the front of a boat.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Just this is just so well, I get the feeling
that you're making fun.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Is it not a comedy podet?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
It is a comedy podcast.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Sorry, Victoria. I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
He'd be a beautiful, beautiful figurehead for a ship.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
You would, I'd prefer to be one for a company,
for your head for a Yeah, just stand there and
let everyone look good.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Joh yeah, like president of Marlotte. I love that little guy,
such a cute little forever. Yeah he will, he will anyway.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
So Grace goes to Lorcan's cabin and he's happy that
she's there, but he's sitting in complete darkness.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
And I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Sorry, okay, she just she just like floats in and
she's like, what's up?

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (37:25):
He talks, She talks, okay, once he's done cleaning the
of his pants because his random voice appears in the darkness.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah, just and he's like, hey, what are you doing here?
And she's like, no, I'm ast really projecting, and he's like, okay.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Did oh yeah, you just learned that because oh god.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
There's like really no explanation as to what triggers this
or how she's yeah. So he's like, yeah, I'm really
happy you're here, but you need to leave this ship
for your own safety, right, And she says to him like, hey,
can you turn the lights on in here because there,
you know, lights some candles because it's quite, and he
gets super emo and he's a direct quote. He says,

(38:04):
no candles. There's the difference between us, Grace. I need
the darkness, not the light.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
I think I've had my point proven. Yeah, just on
that note, by the way, recently I did spent I
bought something to make these feel better. I bought a
candle outbra and I just say it, actually, Jane changed
my life for the better. It is one of the
best things I've ever bought. Is it looks like luny

(38:32):
air from beating the beast. And that's what I've called
it because I like to name things in my house.
And it is just genuinely a thing of such joy
and light obviously because it's and yeah, in the shop
next to me, the candles are really cheap. I got
like three of them for like a euro or something.
Three like sticks to me and it's amazing. It really

(38:55):
brings like an element of lux surely looks sury. Really,
I would like, it's something I never thought of buy,
and then I did it. It was amazing. I would
recommend it is of course it is.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
You have to do this thing that is light, all
the candles on it, switch with all the lights, go
to your man and go the bridge is washed out.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I've already done something like that, but I just walked.
I was like, hello, just holding it. Hello, is there
anybody there?

Speaker 5 (39:30):
You can keep it?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:31):
I think I need to get one of those old
timey like roads, you know, the gal like the white one.
So I look at him ghostly, and then just had
to wander my apartment for my one bead apartment. Not
much to wander, but I'll be there. I actually have
there's a ghost in my apartment. So there's this natural,
real ghost there. So that's quite funny, okay.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
And so you've got a candle ever for them to
play with.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Well, you know, surprisingly, I would have thought he would
have played with it a little bit more, but he
absolutely hasn't touched it. I thought that would flicker more,
you know, but it has it's very strong flames.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I mean, it's not from his time. He's probably just
like just because I'm from the past, doesn't mean I'm
from that past. Yeah, assuming all ghosts are from eighteen
hundreds ghost.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
It maybe maybe he likes to do other things for listeners.
I do have a genuine, genuine ghost, So yeah, my
house is a protected building and I have a ghost
called Michael, and he's just real and which makes him
sound fake. But I've had friends and myself obviously have
like supernatural experiences that haven't been being able to explain.

(40:35):
So the big one was my friend Alina and I
were hanging out one night and I jeans drying on
the back of a chair. You know, jeans when they dry,
they get like really crispy. They're not like they're quite sturdy.
They're not really malleable, like by wind or something. These
jeans lifted off by themselves, lifted off the chair and
threw them on the floor. And I'd like to think
that's Michael saying I needed to put the way the

(40:55):
laundry because it has them drying there for three days,
or wanted the chair, oh the chairs to join us.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Actually, for sure you didn't leave a feet open for him.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
That was so true. He when play when the place
gets too messy, he starts throwing things, like he'll knock
over stuff like a cat. That's kind of weird. And
I think he has a dog as well, because twice
I've like switched on the bedroom light and something will
run at my feet, which is very terrifying. But then
on reflection I'll see like ears, like little floppy triangle ears.

(41:26):
I think it's like a Jack Russell, something like a
Jack Rustle side.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Let's just wind. Something ran at you as you physically
see something.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Something run like a like a black mass run at
my feet, like just as I switch on the light.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Yeah, at that point, I'm fucking very frightening.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
I'm pretty I'm very comfortable. I really like him. I
really enjoy his company. And but there's things that I
obviously won't do, like I don't do weed aboard things
I don't want to. I say, sometimes it gets in
a weird energy. I think from city Center living. I
have stage the place a little bit just to calm
stuff down a little. Yeah, but it's not an unpleasant to.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Get somebody into the house that does not know the story.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
It's not all the time, so it just happens.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
He sounds like a bit of a sexist being, Like
why aren't you cleaning up a woman? He's feeling he
can he can clearly lift your jeans up, and can't
fold them and put them in the drawer. I have
to do, I have to I make the mess.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
So he was just a carpenter. He's like, I wasn't
taught this. Give me a hammer.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
He doesn't know how he can He can build shit,
but he can't fold a pair of jeans.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
I went looking, So I went looking for like the
census records to see if I can find like a Michael.
But unfortunately, because of the Great Fire of nineteen twenty two,
there's like literally nothing left. I have some friends in
the virtual records treasury that I'm going to see if
I can dig something out of. But what I did
find was that a woman in the building where in
like nineteen one was named Christina, like the exact same

(42:52):
name as me. She had a really tough life. It
was really I feel kind of sad for her. She was.
She lived there with like her husband and like six
kids and her mother in law. And then ten years
later they did another census and she her mother in
law died, her husband was dead, and one of her
kids died as well. In the space of three ten years,

(43:13):
and so like I guess her older. It was just
really and like I've told people this and people are like, well,
that's just what happens in nineteen hundreds. I'm like, that's
so sad.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Common ish back in the day. But it's still fucking sad.
You're still a human being.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah, she's still go like five kids to try and
raise and like in from this, I think her oldest
it was like twenty at the time, so he's probably
like contributing. Yeah, so it's just really interesting to see,
like in ten years how somebody's life changed quite dramatically,
really interesting. Would recommend just something fun to do, look
up the census records for your house and see who
was living there. Was kind of fun yet cool.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I might do that actually for this place here. Yeah,
this place is kind of old. So not gonna say
where I'm located.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Alway, So he's in the darkness.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Sorry, yeah, he's in the darkness. And then Grace is
very abrupt hurled back to the academy and wakes up
right back in her body, like you know, apparently taking
what looks like taking a nap underneath a tree on
the lawns and Chang Lee is sitting there and again,
by all accounts, it looks like Grace just took a nap.

(44:17):
So but she wakes up and she's like, oh hi,
chang Lee, and chang Lee is like, I know there
was something stuff going on, Like she didn't try to
wake up Grace or anything, but she just looks at
her and she's like, there's something weird about you and
you need to tell me and spill the beans, and
so yeah, under on a sunny day, you bitch, you.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Swe She's an mpath. Okay, she gets it, she feels it.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
It's just yeah, there's no explanation as to how chang
Lee knows that something else happened.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
She's read the book.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
So Grace is like, ah, you got me, and like
spills the beans on her spirit journey to the Vampirate ship.
Just tell chen l everything. And then chang Lee like
hears her, and she's like weirdly supportive, and she's like, yeah,
I understand, Like why you want to go hang out
with these vampires? I know no one else gets you
and everyone thinks you just have Stockholm syndrome, But I

(45:14):
get you, girl, and yeah, you know what you should
do instead of like running away from the vampires. Like
literally everyone is telling you you should try as hard
as you can to keep spiritually projecting, and you should
try to find them. That's where your calling is. Obviously.
Grace's little fourteen year old.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Girl apparently the villain there.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Yeah, Chang Lee's kind of yeah, like like yeah, yeah,
I mean it's it's portrayed in these chapters like, oh,
she's just like Grace's friend and confidant. But then take
a step back and you look at it. No, she's like, no,
she's encouraging the weird delusions and Stockholm syndrome of a
teenage girl. And she's yeah. And then she's like, I'm

(45:59):
gonna help them, give you some advice on how maybe
we can experiment and try to find a way to
force these spirit journeys to happen for you. Oh God, Okay,
all right, guys, I'm gonna say that's the end of
this episode. Ah, thank god, And we're gonna take a
quick break and then I'll record the next all right, guys,

(46:27):
stay tuned for next episode.
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