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June 11, 2024 • 29 mins
We find more damning evidence of how "Twilight" completely robbed from TVD. Elena goes full stalker on Stefan; she promises herself that they will both die if he doesn't return his love for her, and she makes her friends do a blood oath to help her win his heart. For some reason nobody thinks this is creepy and everyone still thinks she's the coolest blonde normal cheerleader that's ever lived.
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(00:00):
A sexy day with Daddy. Comeand read these team bo Mamma's books and
listen. So they're in a classtogether, and Elena smiles at him and
he ignores her because she looks alot like Catherine. So Catherine's in this

(00:23):
as well. And we find outmore about Catherine in this book later.
But and he can tell that Elenasmells like violets, okay, and he
immediately has a thirst for her.So violet juice. This is again fucking
Twilight. What was the first thingthat happened with Edward and Bella? He

(00:46):
got a whi and he was like, I want to eat her and stephan
same ship, except as violets insteadof strawberries. I guess Steffhanie Meyer,
I remember. I think it washer that she said that she just woke
up one day she had had adream. Yeah, she started writing toilet
And I'm like, did you havethe dream after you read the Vampire Diaries?

(01:07):
Because that's and here's the thing,like we've got one bad writer followed
by someone who decided to copy herand did it poorly, so like it's
just and then we got fifty shadesof gray started, Oh my god,
shades of gras just a copy ofthe copy. Copy of the copy is
like all fanfic just complete, justyeah, and then somehow you get somehow

(01:30):
it twists into fucking Harry Styles buyingyou from your mom. And guys,
you guys know what, this's fanfickwhat you guys don't Harry Styles buying me
from my mom? I know thissign up for that, so we raised
I know the new like her.The new movie with Anne Hathaway is meant

(01:51):
to be based off of Harry fanfic. Oh wait were you? Yeah?
Where it's it's Anne Hathaway like gettingwith a musician that she meets when she
brings her daughter to see them atCoachella, and he's like early, he's
like a teenager probably she's a fortyyear old mom. And it actually looks
no, he's not in it,but they're saying it's way based off of

(02:13):
the I love it. This isthe most like notorious story on whattpad.
You guys know what had Okay.Whattpad is like where all these like supernatural
fan fiction stories happen. You'll havelike Twilight fan fake You'll have like like
stories about like werewolves and vampires.And ship, and the most popular story

(02:36):
on watpad was like a girl she'slike sixteen, and she walks downstairs in
the kitchen and it's like her hermom is there with Harry Styles, and
her mom's like, I'm sorry,we're too broke. I had to sell
you to one direction. This ispopular as a sex flave. It's like
a sex slave thing. It isa sex li and I I've like reviewed

(03:00):
some stories like that, not thatone specifically, but like very similar things
like where it's like, oh,I was sold to the to the mafia
boss, or I was sold tothis werewolf pack house to be the Alpha's
breed mayor, and at from HarryStyles. All started from Jeffrey and did.

(03:24):
Apparently, if you're going to besold to anyone, why not Harry
Styles. I mean, you know, I feel would treat you, Okay,
I don't he would slip smack abitch. I don't think he would
would. I think he'd be niceLiam when we sell to him, or
I don't know about if I trusthim, say Nile like sportwear to god,

(03:53):
that's it. That would that keepsthe honest. I hate saying to
you, you guys gotta look upthe Harry Styles popular. It was so
bizarre. I'm going to look thatup. I'm just kind of worrying,
isn't it that sixteen year old girlswho were going, this is our fantasy,
right, getting kidnapped and see we'renot allowed to king shame. But
then you kind of get with usgetting a little no. But it's like,

(04:15):
where did that idea? Yeah comefrom? Really? But you know,
I like the I like the onethat the new movie is based off
of. Like, that's cool,obviously, very light. I'm all of
it. A forty year old womanhooking up with a younger lad Yeah,
sure, super famous pop start.Yeah, that's good. I think it's
I got the trailer because I haveso trailer that is so funny that they

(04:35):
took that and they were like,we're gonna make a movie. Yeah.
But yeah, I just want tosay I'm not I'm probably going to release
this like a month from from now, like edit and stuff. Yeah,
and just for the future, becauseright now it is April twenty first,
and as of this moment, PDiddy is still alive. For a month

(04:57):
from now, I'm just gonna sayP Diddy did not kill himself. Oh
my god. We're here, it'sApril twenty. First, I'm saying if
he did kill himself, he didn't, he ends up. Yeah. Yeah.
So we end chapter two where Elena, you know, she's she's mad
that Stephan didn't smile at her back, and she's like fucking fuming. It's

(05:18):
been like four hours since she's knownhe's existed, and she's just gone full
psycho. Oh wow. And sohere's a quote. She'd have him even
if it killed her, if itkilled both of them, she'd have him.
Oh my gosh, you'll get getYou don't need to die. What's

(05:41):
gonna do? What? Alright,that's the end of chapter two and we're
gonna start on chapters three to five. Okay, so we're back at Stephan's
point of view, and everyone's alwaysgoing on about like how he dresses so
well. We saw the unusual leather, usual cut jacket, which we all
read on is probably yeah, exactlytestyle of nineties rocket, you know.

(06:08):
And Steffan goes to explain why hedresses so well. He'd always dressed his
best, not merely out of vanity, but because it was the right thing
to do. An aristocrat should dressas befits his position. If he does
not, he is showing contempt forothers. Everyone had a place in the
world, and his place had oncebeen among the nobility. So that's why

(06:32):
he's wearing a peplum. Again wejust assume. But yeah, him and
Elena are made for each other.Already talking about nobility in fucking suburban Virginia.
I well, you could almost understandthat pasn't crap and the royalty coming
from him but not. Yeah,he at least grew up through times.

(06:55):
But yeah, that was the world. But yeah, at the same time,
it's like that was more than onehundred years go, dude, moving,
Yeah, they do feel like ifthey are cellmates right now though,
Yeah, yeah, because they're bothvapid. And so Stephan has a flashback
to a time when him and hisbrother Damon they were human. They had
each met Catherine, and Stefan thoughtlike that him and Catherine had had a

(07:20):
thing that that, you know,they were like flirty and they were gonna
be together forever, but she toyedwith him and his brother Damon, and
that was just a kind of abrief flashback that was several hundred years ago,
And he basically lets the reader knowhe's still not over it. Uh,
men need therapy, Yeah, vampiresneed therapy, therapy especially, So

(07:46):
Elena goes to Matt's house to dumphim before school the next day, and
he's actually really mature about it,you know, but he immediately asks like,
is it the new guy? Andshe's like, now what just because
the entire school saw me ogling himand I loudly declared in front of everyone

(08:07):
that he was gonna be mine.Oh, you're fucking crazy, Matt.
So she's just gaslight. She's soemotionally abusive dude. And then Matt's like,
okay, fine, let me buyyou a donut. And so then
at school when they go to school, there's these two characters named Dick Carter

(08:31):
and Tyler smallwould remember Tyler from theshow yea, yeah, Tyler, And
I don't know if you guys rememberthis from the show Tyler Season one absolute
dickhead like antagonist, and then theychange his character arc, which I don't
agree with because in the book he'salways a dickhead. But also like,
this is my little little tangent,like I saw one of the I was

(08:54):
rewatching some of the show yesterday.Do you guys remember how he tried to
rape Vicky. Yeah a little bit, yo, And I've watched it sequentially
and I managed to wipe that memoryout of my head watching season two because
I'm like, oh, I likedyeah, oh my god, yeah he
almost he was like angry episode orsome third episode. Yeah, and then
Jeremy steps in and just spoiler away, he pulls the same ship in the

(09:16):
in this in the book. That'swhere they got it from the book,
Okay, And I know and Iknow that he has like a redemption arc
and everything, but I'm also like, no, don't give the rapist if
redemption arc yeah, yeah, oryeah, just don't take it that far
in the first like you can getangry or something with her, but not
too yeah, Like he like pushedher up against the tree in the show
and she said no and he keptgoing, and then she she actually said

(09:41):
like stop, you're hurting me.Wow, and he still kept going.
So he was like full on gonnarape her. And I'm I mean,
I feel like the only way youcould actually give me a redemption arc is
if he like got hit in thehead and had a completely new personality from
that. Doesn't feel like that's whathappens right in the show. It does.
Yeah, I mean if I'm wrong, because I haven't gotten this far

(10:01):
in the rewatch yet where it waslike it was like he was like,
oh, I actually was like adickhead because my werewolf powers were boiling beneath
the surface. So that's why Ialmost raped VICKI I don't Yeah, yeah,
that is of what it's excused bythat. It's like this the animal
anger issue is actually part of thewerewolf werewolf thing. I mean, you're

(10:24):
like, is it because you justseemed like a douche by? We're not
gonna paint all were wolves with thesame No. Are you gonna call me
a werewolf racist? Because I havebeen called that. I know I've told
this story a few times on thepodcast, but I have an author reached
out and literally called me a werewolfracist. Oh my god. I was

(10:46):
like, you're fucking right. Iwould wear that with pry. Yeah.
I was like, I don't thinkwe should. Let I wouldn't want a
werewolf dating my daughter. Absolutely,according to Vampire Diaries, he's gonna fucking
raper in the woods. That's whattheres I don't think is what you want
them to bring home sorry, theysmell that that too, like wet dot

(11:07):
all the time. Name are perverts. So the Werewolves you know we're going
to be Yeah. Oh this hasmade me really torn now because I had
managed to wipe that out of myhead. But I do remember. I
know that you say it. I'mseason three D but I oh, he's
very attractive, Like yeah, yeah, it's so annoying for Vicky the way

(11:33):
he was treating that that character sobadly. So I thought there was potential
there. I thought there was goingto be a nice something for her.
I know. Yeah, they werelike, no, let's have a really
unhappy but she's the one. Shedeserves a happy ending, and instead they
give the rapist who fucking uses her. Because then there was also a scene
where like for some reason, Vickyruns back to him even though he almost

(11:54):
rated her in the woods, andthen like Tyler goes to Jeremy and he
was like, why are you sosad? You can have her when I'm
done with her. Yeah, itwas really sick. They were like dating
in that episode. You know,a girlfriend, okay, and also your
best friend's sister. Right, That'swhy I feel like no. So his

(12:18):
name is Tyler smallwood. I guesswe know what the small wood is.
His best friend is Dick Carter,which is Dick. So at school the
next day, Dick and Tyler whistleat Elena as she walks by, and
she gets like really upset with it, which is fine, I get that.

(12:39):
I'm just not based on yesterday whenshe was like every guy and if
they don't, I'm annoyed. Yeah, yeah, one. And she's like,
men shoul whistle at me? Andthen she's like no, I and
I mean being upset at someone whistlingat use. A normal response, just
based on the original bit was whatdo you want? Figure it out?
Figure yourself out. Look, shewants to be objectified, you know that's

(13:01):
her right, but just figure outwhat you want. Get your life together.
So Dick and Tyler they see Stefanas like the new hot shitt in
school and they're threatened by this,so they try to block him from entering
the classroom. And Matt again,who's now Elena's most recent ex confronts Dick

(13:22):
and Tyler and he's like, hey, guys, quit being well Dix,
and he actually starts befriending Stefan,and he knows he fully knows this is
the dude that Elena dumped me for. But he's a new guy, and
I feel bad. I'm like,Matt is actually like a really really nice
guy. Okay, I think inthe show they kind of portrayed him as
like being really aggressive towards Stephan atfirst, which is not Yeah, he

(13:45):
was jealous of them, but he'sjealous. Yeah, he still calms off
like a nice guy. Yeah,mostly, but yeah he does get jealous
of them. Yeah, yeah,So that's another slight discrepancy. So Matt
being nice to Stefan immediately makes stuffand really mopey, and he like straight
up says to Matt like, well, why should I be welcome here?

(14:07):
Like what? God, dude,get some lexapro. I mean, I'm
gono is great, I guess.So Matt then asks Stefan like, hey,
you should join the football team.Elena gets insanely jealous that the boys
are bonding. W weird. No, it's not about her. Of course

(14:31):
she should be fighting over me,right right. She's one of those types
that doesn't want her man to havefriends. He has to run them off
in that kind of way. SoStephan initially turns Matt down. He's like
I'm too busy, and we endup finding out that Bonnie kept Caroline away
from Stephan in the morning so thatElena could have a chance with Stephan.

(14:54):
I'm just saying this because it's likeBonnie, Caroline, Meredith, and Elena
are all supposed to be like friends. Yeah, but then as soon as
Elena says something, they all immediatelylike throw Caroline under the bus. So
I kind of understand why Caroline isso salty towards Elena. Yeah. Yeah,
I feel bad for her because evenlike her friends don't act like her

(15:15):
friends. They're like, yeah,if Elena says to sabotage you, we
will, even though we've been friendswith you for ten years. But also,
like, how insecure is Elena thatshe's like, you need to keep
this supermodel looking girl away from thisguy because if he gets a sniff of
her for two seconds, he'll bebored of me, even though you have
won all of your competitions before nowexactly she and she thinks she's me Yeah,

(15:37):
yeah, ridiculous. So she's parentlynot that confident in herself yet if
she's like, I need to dosome sneaky little ploise just to talk to
Stefan for ten minutes in history class. Okay, so after class, Elena
openly tries flirting with Stephan in frontof Matt, her recent x of like

(16:00):
less than a day. He doesn'tcare, shameless and I love this.
Stephan straight up blanks her, likeshe starts talking to him and he just
doesn't even look at her and justkeeps walking. Oh wow, so I
like that. Elena ends up havinga cry about Stephan's rejection at her parents
cemetery in the graveyard. Oh mygod. Yeah, that's what's going through

(16:22):
your mind when you're at your parents. Yeah. Yeah, it's her parents
symetery. Yeah, you haven't diedthat long ago, right here, months
ago. You're at the grave andyou're crying over you're not thinking about dying,
You're not thinking about guys after that? Yeah, yeah, what what
the hell? I mean? I'msorry. If I was her dead parents,
I'd be like, I've been deadfor two months, girl, and
like, yeah, Jesus. SoBonnie and Meredith show up to soothe her.

(16:49):
Bonnie at huh at the cemetery.Yeah, they find out the cemetery.
They're like, where does Elena go? She's a mopey bitch's she's full
of drama. Of course she's gonnaact like this hanging by the grave Jesus
Christ manipulation tool. She's like,I become comfort me over a guy not

(17:11):
talking to me. Yeah, yeah, I think that's exactly. She's full
on being manipulative. It's it.So Bonnie goes on more about how she's
psychic, and then she says thatshe's descended from the Scottish Druids. So,
yeah, you were right, andso here's here are direct quotes that
I feel like, Luis, Oh, I mean, I know you're not
You're not Scottish, You're Irish.But people do similar ship with the Irish.

(17:33):
Okay, okay, the trigger warning, so be prepared. In Scotland,
they keep up with the old traditions. Elizabeth, you're also Irish too.
I'm sorry getting I'm already like,oh yeah, they keep up with
the old traditions. You would notbelieve some of the things my grandmother does.

(17:56):
She has a way to find outwho you're gonna marry and when you're
gonna die. And then Elena isstill thinking to herself about like Stephan rejecting
her, and she thinks and shesays to herself, she knew one thing.
She wasn't going to let Stephan Salvatoreget away alive, alive, alive,

(18:18):
alive. She sounds like the vampirehere now. And if he doesn't
love me, but wow, thisis and this is a young adult novel.
I'm so glad this is the shipbeing peddled to kids well back in
the nineties. If it was genderswapped, if Elena was a dude instead
a girl, she doesn't come withme, I'm gonna kill her. Yeah,

(18:41):
full, it would be full insultvibes and romantic. Everyone would like
immediately report him to Homeland Security becauseshe's a pretty teenage girl. It's like
she so cute, right right,yeah, yeah, so, And then
Elena tells Meredith and Bonnie when they'retrying to soothe her about like Stephan,
like, hey, come on,dude, it's been like less than a
day. Also, if he doesn'tlike you, his loss whatever, And

(19:04):
Elena says, I do still wanthim, and I'm going to have him.
I'm going to wow after one day, after one day, I don't
know how yet, but I am. And until I come up with a
plan, we are going to givehim the cold shoulder. By the way,
Bonnie, you can't have him,he's mine. Just oh wow,

(19:25):
because I think Bonnie made a commentof like, yeah, he is kind
of good looking, and she's like, hey, bitch, bitch, oh
wow. I just can't believe thatthis got published, I know, right,
And then and then fucking Stephanie Meyerscopied it as well, and so
then I forgot about this. Theyliterally take a blood oath in the cemetery

(19:47):
to do whatever Elena asks in relationto Stefan and to keep it a secret.
And then Elena swears not to restuntil he belongs to her, and
they do this in blood. Herparents great father is so weird, right,
this is so broken up with aboyfriend yesterday, yesterday, and now

(20:10):
you're you're getting your friends who areclearly like just like followers. Yeah,
I know they're read oath. Solet's you can do anything parents, dude,
Like the soil is still fresh,Like this is so creepy, and
it makes Elena hateful, hateful,Like how can you root for a character

(20:33):
like this? How can you makean I don't know, I never liked
I didn't like her from the starthateful? So on the way home,
Bonnie enters into a trance and thenlike you do as you do as normally
trance, don't you. I meanyou're you're You're Irish, which is Celtics.

(20:53):
So surely you've entered into and Istarted doing you know, we can
try. Oh my god, Ohmy god. So she tells she's in
the trance. She tells Elena someoneis following her, and then sure enough,

(21:17):
this huge creature. I thought itwas gonna be a crow. No,
no, it's not a crow.It's a huge creature. They don't
know what it is. It's likedark and looming, and it's and they
can hear it. It starts chasingthem through the cemetery. They cross a
river bridge and then they know thatthey're safe. I wonder if it's because
vampires can't cross running water sort ofthing. Right, so there was a

(21:38):
vampire chasing them, Okay, Iactually can't remember if it was Damon or
Stephan. I will find out later. I think the crow is meant to
be representative of Damon, right,yes, yeah, Damon is a crow.
Right. Actually, actually no,it wasn't. No, I find
next sentence it was Stefan. Stephanwas the one chasing them as doesn't now
he's going to stalk her back.Yeah, and now he's talking. I
mean he was like, you wantme to go? You got away from

(22:00):
her violets and in her blood,she made a blood oath. I'm not
going to stop. Yeah, it'slike you summoned me and Daddy's home.
I made you a cocktail to bloodyMary. Yeah. I do love bloody
Mary's just as well quick tangent.I I don't know if it's like a

(22:21):
Texan thing. I've had the bestbloody Marris I've ever had were in Texas.
I think it's because y'all had likethe spices a little text next to
it or something. Yeah, andI'm sorry, but the bloody Marys in
this country suck, don't. They'reterrible Unless I make them, they're terrible.
Yeah, I mean it's not justit just seems like tomato juice,
like Irish people exactly. Irish peoplesay that, though my mouth is getting

(22:45):
water, you've never had a goodone. And I went, I went
to make my partner one for thefirst aid. You've never tried one.
And I was so proud. Iwas like, I have the best bloody
mark. He's in the world,and I gave it to him and I
made mine and then I was like, it's a bit tangier than I remember,
and he hate. He was like, this is awful tomato Jesus expired.

(23:06):
Yeah, that's a little bit ofpenicillin and THEO. But anyway,
they make them in Texas. It'sa whole nother level. But not trying
to be funny. But if Iwas a vampire, I would be drinking
bloody marries all the time with theblood in it, and the tamatag is
going, what I'm just having bloodymary exactly. You know, cover perfect

(23:26):
dam should be drinking bloody rather andthey can look really cool bloody marries all
the time. I love it islike it is like a spicy cold tomato
soup, but it's good. It'slike steak and a glass, you know,
right, Oh I don't really it'slike steak and a glass. Yeah,
because like that you can't put likevery savory. Okay, you can

(23:48):
put like a like a like apiece of jerky or like a sausage or
something in it, hallopen celery.I would be a good vampire, do
you know? My? You gotthat? Translu Sans the skin. No,
my cousins. They straight up fortheir and they my cousins in Texas.
For their engagement party, they hada bloody merry bar. It was

(24:10):
so cool, but sorry, Ijust wish that there were better options for
bloody marys than I. So,so they made a bloody Mary in the
cemetery. In the cemetery, Stefanwanted to join and being rude anyways,
So yeah, Stephan was the onechasing them. It turns out he was

(24:30):
like feeding on some animals in thecemetery and they cut themselves. Oh yeah,
he was like staring at them thewhole time they were at Elena's parents
graves. So he full on nose, like Alena wants me, I'm just
gonna he's there, like teeth ina little bunny. Yeah yeah. And
actually so during the run, Elenadropped a hair ribbon. Stefan ends up

(24:55):
grabbing it and takes it home andstarts smelling it like a weirdo. Also,
girl wears a hair ribbon and shethinks she's the queen of high school.
Are you twelve? Yeah it's nottwenty four. Yourna's all right,
bitch? Yeah cool at that,Sime no, it was not. Also,
they can't hold your hair up forshit. No. So then here's

(25:18):
here's another quote that kind of remindedme of Twilight. It's from Stephan's point
of view. To be in thesame room with her at school, to
feel her presence behind me, tosmell the heady fragrance of her skin all
around me, was almost more thanI could bear. Again, it's like
the fella stink making Yeah. Yeah, he had heard every soft breath she
took, felt her warmth radiator againsthis back, since each throb of her

(25:44):
sweet pulse. This this's a bitof a masturbation metaphor, for his tongue
had brushed back and forth over hiscanine teeth, enjoying the pleasure pain that
was building there and encouraging it.That is, it's not just me,
right, that's a masturbation metaphor oflike, I'm like rubbing my fangs as

(26:06):
they grow bigger. He's edging.Yeah, God, I'm so disappointed in
l J. So the only reasonhe's straight up doesn't eat the girls is
because he ends up finding a homelessman under the bridge instead. So oh,
so he isn't a vegetarian vegan andthe vampire in the book that well,

(26:26):
he's still feasting. He is,but he isn't He's trying not to.
Yeah, I think, yeah,he's trying not to. But I
think he got so tempted by theirweird, little creepy blood oaths. Okay,
it was like, I mean,it was kind of like like when
I was a vegetarian. There werelike a handful of moments where I'm like,
I just really want KFC. Yeah. Yeah, So he found a

(26:47):
homeless man and snacked on him instead. Yeah, it's the fine. We
don't care about homeless people. That'sjust organic. Yeah, so just do
really casually throwing away the Human Lifebook is so classic, isn't it.
Oh yeah, I'm just gonna eatthis vagabond. We don't care. Yeah,
it's god. That homeless guy probablyhas more personality than Elena I was

(27:11):
gonna say, and probably better ethicsand morals as well. Most definitely like,
yeah, it wouldn't be heard.I forgot the next part. It's
so stupid. So Elena goes homeand she's like, I'm gonna start executing
my new plan to get my manright. She stays up till one am,
one am making this plan. Shegoes The next day, she goes

(27:32):
to school and she pretends like,I'm not interested in Stefan anymore because I
have a new boyfriend. He's twentyone years old, he's French and his
name is Jean Claude. Everyone fallsfor that, sus. Everyone's like,
yeah, of course, of courseyou because I think she like went to
Paris over the summer or something,so that's why. Wow. And she's

(27:56):
like sixteen Jean Claude, twenty oneyear old French guy. And people at
her like lunch table are like,but you were obsessing over Stephan yesterday,
yeah, yesterday not Also, youhad you had a boyfriend three days ago.
Yeah you didn't, So you cheatedon masks when you came out,

(28:18):
didn't tell them about she's made ofFrench guy. Yeah, oh my god.
It's like, it's so what yourfriends would have called John when you
started cool. Instead it's like,she's so cool, isn't she? And
so she and then so they startquestioning her and then she there's a quote
she says, if I'm going toeat continental, I prefer French to Italian

(28:41):
every time. Burn. Oh yeah, so bad. That's the first I
think that's the first good thing shehas said. Actually, that's the first.
That's the funniest thing. And it'sactually quite a clever line. I
think, even though it's awful,it's very clever. I'm going Continental if
the seventeen year old girl walks aroundthinking like that, If I'm going to

(29:06):
eat Continental, I don't need toin French. Spoiler alert, this is
Elizabeth Holmes when she was in highschool. It's just like there's a lot
of sessions and everything there. Yeah, yeah, okay, guys, that's
the end of that section, Sothe next next episode will be chapters six

(29:27):
through eight. Thanks for listening toBad Book Fash. Vampire Diaries is written
by L. J. Smith.Our comedian guest stars have been Irish comedian
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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