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January 14, 2024 • 39 mins
Shazia and Tarun discuss living in Iceland, igloos and what if the world ended.
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(00:00):
Hi, Chazia Ding. How youdoing freezing? Oh my gosh, hold
in La. Yes, I meancold relatively. What's this temperature? Like
fifties, sixties, thirty? It'sin the thirties here, is it really?

(00:23):
Yeah, it's going to go downto like seventeen on Tuesday. What
is your go to temperature in thehouse. I like it at seventy Wow.
Really there's conflict in the house.Stuart likes to sleep at like between
sixty five and sixty eight mm.I like seventy to seventy three depends,

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just like Pakistan. You know,I got to keep it real. How
about you go to my roots?What about you? I think I like
it more on the otter side.I don't like being cold, yeah,
Like we're not built for that.They see, people aren't built for the

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cold. Imagine what do you Imean when you lived in New Hampshire,
Like were you shoveling snow? Howdid that go? Yeah? You know
what's funny. I grew up inNew Hampshire. I never thought about the
cold at all, Like you kindof just adapt to it like ignorance is
bliss. And then when I leftNew Hampshire and then I went back years

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later, I was like, I'mfreezing. I can't take this. Yeah.
I think if you grow up init, it's different, agreed.
I think humidity might be the same. Yeah. So if you grew up
in like Alaska or North Pole,like you were like an Eskimo, you'd
be like, oh my god,I live in an igloo. It'd be

(01:52):
totally normal for you. Have youever been in an igloo? No,
I'd like to airbnb one possibly inthe future. Yeah, me too.
That would be cool. Even thoughwe hate it cold, it's supposed to
be warm in an iglu. Itlike traps the heat, right, you

(02:15):
know, I don't know that soundsright. I'm just going to go with
that. Whatever you just said thatin iglu traps heat. Maybe someone knows
and they can let us know.Do you think there's like homeless igles,
like homeless Eskimos with like cardboard?I mean, do they make it?
What do they make them out of? You would think homeless people would all

(02:38):
have homes if they could make iglos. Yeah, it's true. Are there
homeless people in cold places where igloosare an option? That's another question I
have. If anyone has an answerto that, Well, these are the
universe's unanswered questions that could perhaps beexplored in a Netflix documentary. And do

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only little like shorter like vertically challengedpeople live in iglus or igloos something you
crawl into? Or are they atlike a six foot like? Do they
meet all the regulations from the firedepartment? Yes? Who's going to sleep
after watching the first five minutes ofthis? I mean these are that nobody

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knows, nobody knows, nobody caresto ask. I feel like we live
in a world where people just acceptwhat they're told and nobody asks. Nobody
asks questions about igloos. Some groundbreakingstuff is being discussed today. I can

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already feel the you know, mostpeople venture into the Iowa caucuses or the
Trump or abortion. We're touching uponigloos and midgets and iglus. What are
they made of? I'm sorry Ididn't call them that. I said,
do only vertically challenged people? It'sgood to know it's a blanket term.

(04:09):
It's an inclusive term for people wholive in smaller igloos. If there is
difference, if there are certain differentsizes of them, so like a bigger
iglooe than like a tinier igloo.I don't know if you'l like in my
mind, I remember, like Igrew up watching Chili Willy the Penguin.

(04:30):
It's a cartoon on when I waslittle, and he was a tiny penguin
who lived in a smaller igloo.So in my mind, it's either smaller
humans or little penguins. Well youcan go for are they like doghouses?
Smell of igloos like little ice cubesfor doghouses? Ooh, you think you'd

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have to have one for your dog. If you love your pet, you
would give them one. If youdon't love your pet, then you let
them sleep out in the snow.Do you even have a dog. Maybe
you have a walrus exactly exactly.Take India people, you know, like
the other countries, people have exoticpets that we wouldn't have in America.

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Like people have bears as pets inIndia. Oh that's what my dad told
me. He said he had aneighbor who had a bear like on a
leash and he will walk it.You know. You know it's funny,
though I'm being that serious. Ilive in Florida and one time we went
to the zoo. My mom waslike, oh, there's a zoo down

(05:38):
that like from we should go tothe zoo. We're like, this is
zoo here. It was in somebody'sbackyard and this guy just captured a bunch
of animals and put him in cagesand it was like it's like deer and
like there was actually a bear thathe had, and it's like stuff of
like this is clearly illegal, andwe just like walked around this guy's backyard
and he'd like they and cages.That's why, like when you read about

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people having like alligators and stuff,it's like a normal thing where that you
know that documentary that came out withthat Tiger Tiger King guy. Carol Baskins
is an Florida with her like whatevershe calls it Rescue her Tiger Rescue.
Yeah, so people have this.This is a reality. Yeah. Yeah,

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I guess I'm not interested in exoticpets, are you. I am
in theory, Like when I seelike these tiktoks. Like I saw a
TikTok and there was like a faralcat and it was like this wild it
was between like a lynx and likea bobcat or something, and I was
like, oh, that's cool tohave this little cat running around and then
the cat was like really protective,and it's like you're like, oh my

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god, this cat's your throat.It's like, oh my god. Maybe
it's not why sty a cat likethat? You know, I know,
animals are animals. I mean unlessthey're bred to be wow. You know,
see cats guilty. They're cats.They're going to rip your stuff up.
They're gonna you know, you needto play with them. You can't

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just have them. So I wouldthink a cat like that would require a
lot of area to play in sothat it could exercise its wild side,
and you know, you'd need to. It would be a lot of upkeep,
which is why it doesn't appeal tome. It's because I don't have
that kind of time. I'm gonnacats. Do you have two? They

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don't require any time. Their Persiancats they sleep all day. I'm filtering
my thoughts and say stuff Persian catsand sleep all day, because that's interesting
because Persians are pretty hard workers.Oh yeah, true. Not not in
the cat kingdom. They're not atall. I have lots of cats.

(07:53):
I've been a cat person, youknow. I was on that crazy documentary
called My Cat from Hell. Ohwhat is my cat from here? We
had that. Do you remember Bowie? Do you remember my well, you
remember me when I had Pandora andChristmas and everyone called Christmas Blanco diablo because
he was he would attack people.And then I had Bowie, who was

(08:15):
the same breed, because I wastrying to replace Christmas and he was biting
my kids. He was a wildcat. He needed the time and the
space to be exercised. They wantedme to build all these like shelves so
he could creep around around the houseand he needed to be up high and
look down low. And so Icalled the show. I was like,

(08:35):
listen, I think, like,my cat's a nightmare and my husband's going
to make me get rid of itif it doesn't stop biting my kids.
And you know, in true Hollywoodform, it came out and they made
Stuart and I look like the crazypeople, not the cat. Really,
Oh my gosh. I got somuch negative fan mail, but I'm like,

(08:56):
you know what, it was,no matter how they painted it,
that cat was a I am acat person. I have cats now,
they're great. I love them,but yeah, do they sound like a
cat whisper to come over your house? Huh, Yeah, and had his
name. He's got the big Mussta. She's on Animal Planet. I can't

(09:16):
think of his name. Did hecure your cat? No? No,
we had to home the cat room. We had to rehome the cat.
It wasn't a match for us.He just gave up. He was like,
ah, you know what, wecan't do anything. I put up
all the shelfing. We played withhim a half hour a day. But

(09:37):
he saw my kids I think ashis competition, and I think he genuinely
just didn't like the kids. Andso, you know, I found a
home where It was a woman inSilver Lake who worked from home and stayed
home all day and had no otheranimals and had no children. She was
a perfect candidate for Bowie, andshe took him. She took him,

(10:01):
and Bowie ended up killing her weekslater. Yes, but by that time
I had nothing to do with anyDo you want to plug this docu seriesly?
Where can we watch the Shazi's CatAdventures on TV? I don't know.
It's just my cat from how Idon't I don't even know what season
I was on. It was yearsago. This is pre COVID. It

(10:22):
feels like a lifetime ago anything beforeCOVID. Maybe there's there a movie in
there somewhere, like a like aStephen King movie, where what did we
do before COVID? No? No, by your cat, your nightmare cat
and it kills people and you justwant to rehome it. I yeah,

(10:46):
yeah, yeah, I do lovemy cats though, But there's certain animals
that belong in nature, not notin people's homes. Sorry, guys,
sorry, you know I used tohave There was this I used to work
in an agency and I used towalk this one dog every day. There's

(11:07):
like the shelter right in your nextto the agency. During my lunch hour,
go walk this dog. And itbrought me so much peace of mind
to have this dog. It wasalways excited to see me. And I
was like, I'm going to adoptthis dog because I was like, I
have a job now because I canfigure this out. And then one time
I went back to the shelter andit was gone. Somebody took me up,

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and it's like, oh, Iguess that's that so well. I
think the right dog finds its personalways, So when there's a dog out
there for you and you're ready again, your dog will find you. Just
you know, in a similar waywhere you're like, I wasn't even looking

(11:50):
for a dog and then blah blahblah happened. Or were you looking for
your cats? No? So well, the second one I was, but
the first one I got from ashelter and the ones I have currently.
I've had lots of cats that havelived. I mean I had a cat
that lived when our family cat livedtwenty three or twenty four years? Oh

(12:11):
my god, a long time,isn't it? For a very long time?
But you know, we spoil ourcats. They live a good life.
My cats eat good. They havescrambled eggs, they have like pumpkin
pury. I give them raw chicken. Right. I'm you know, I'm

(12:33):
definitely allergic the cats, So Ithink your cat would end up killing me
in some So was my husband.But I just trapped him for and he
was like very very sick for likethree months. Every day he was taking
allergy pills, and then his bodylike regulated itself to not have the cat

(12:54):
allergy anymore. So he is takelooking. The human body is amazing.
It'll adapt. So if I trappedyou in a room with a cat for
three months, I promise you wouldget over your allergy, you should not
be a doctor. I mean,unless you have some autoimmune disorder that keeps

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you from antibodies. You are definitelyalert of the cats. So here's a
solution. We're going to trap youin this room with this cat for the
next three months. One of youwill come out alive. I mean not
to be controversial, but isn't thattechnically what vaccines are? Like here you

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go, you don't want this,but we're going to give it to you
in a smaller form, and you'regoing to build an antibody to it,
and then you'll be fine forever.It's a very similar concept. Se No,
this is Texas speaking the Great Stateof Texts trapping people in rooms and

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cats, and you know you couldbe onto something because my brother's a cat
and every time I go there it'sless. I was really sick and then
but I'm also like hyper aware though, so I don't know if I'm subconsciously
keeping my distance from the cat.So no, if you have an allergy
just because the dander is everywhere,it's not about being next to the cat.

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It's about being in a room thata cat has been in. So
you probably are building a good immunityto it. You should go over there
more often. Do you feel likelike when you got married, because I'm
not married, like you would likecompromise like stuff like that, like cats
and stuff. Because I have afriend who had a dog, who got
a dog and her husband, herhusband was allergic to the dog, and

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she said, well, we're gettingthe dog. And I feel like there's
a lot of more so the guysto compromise for the wife. To be
honest with you, you know,I think it took a few years before
I was like, no, we'regoing to try this, but I'm always
open, like let's just try it. Like even moving to Texas, I

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was like, that was not myidea. You know, I have a
career, a life. I spentmy whole life in California. But I
was like, all right, wellif it doesn't work in a year,
we'll just move back. Like nothingis permanent, you know. I feel
like you got to take risks andtry things in life because you can always
go back to the way it wasusually depends no, you're you're absolutely right.

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I always think about that because sometimesI don't want to live in La
anymore, but I'm like where elsewould I go. The only place I
want to that seems like very newto me is Hawaii, Like this seems
totally different. But then I ranit by my dad and he's like,
no, there's not a crime there. You're going to die. And I
was like, oh, really oneon the island you're on. But yeah,
I think you would blend in.You know where I want to move

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and I've been researching lately. It'sgoing to go back to the IGLU thing.
Wow, Iceland. Oh Iceland.Why I read that it's one of
or it's the most safest place tolive. And the healthcare is amazing,
the schools are phenomenal, the educationis good, Like there's zero crime.

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I don't know. So I startedlooking at houses in Iceland a couple of
weeks ago, and my kids werelike, are you moving us to Iceland?
Well? Are you that scared ofcrime in Texas? Is in Texas?
Pretty everybody's armed in Texas? Right, aren't your kids like running around
with guns and stuff? My kid'srunning around with guns, But isn't it

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My point is, isn't Texas asafe state to live in? I think
it all depends on where in Texasyou are. And yes, it does
feel safer knowing that people are notjust armed, but they're trained in how
to be armed, at least insome most parts of Texas where if you're

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in a restaurant or in a publicplace, you know that if there was
going to be an active, youknow, person coming trying to do bad
stuff, that there would be somany people that could take that person down
the second they even pulled something out. So there is some peace in that.
But you know, it's controversial.I mean, I feel like you're

(17:23):
safer in Texas than Iceland, youknow, because who's going to have a
gun or a bag of ice?There's nothing happening. It's like who has
beef with Iceland? Who? Whatcountry is? Like, oh my gosh,
those icelandic people like screw them,screw their policies. Like what policies
or politics do you hear about?People are like oh Iceland? Ew No,

(17:48):
I don't think anybody wants anything todo with Iceland. I've never even
heard anyone talk about it. SoI was like, maybe that's where I
want to go. And if theAliens were to like Land, like they're
saying, like Iceland, they wantto like know about people in La celebrities
or like people in Vegas. Whyare you gambling? Like, what is
this all about? Well, peopledon't know you actually lived in Switzerland,

(18:11):
right, Yeah? What was that? Like? That was? Well,
I lived very close to Stern,which is energetically has what is Stern?
I don't know what Stern is.Cern is where the that's where they do

(18:32):
all those experiments where they're trying tofind the God particle in that giant collider.
Oh look, I'm sweating in thatgiant collider. I mean that is
you don't know about the experiments you'redoing it. Certain they did the shiva,
They did the Shiva ceremony on therooftop because I feel I feel like

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you have that life experience already,like you've lived like in different places like
Switzerland and Iceland, or I haven't. I haven't lived in I've lived in
Blaine, Washington, like Vancouver.I lived in Switzerland for a little bit.
I think that was at a timewhere I didn't have children, I
didn't my hut Stewart and I weren'tmarried yet, and I don't think I

(19:15):
was quite done leaving la. Istill like, like we talked about last
time, You're like, oh,do you miss the lifestyle right now?
No? But back then, yeahI did. I had to get back.
I'm dead serious because I feel likeI feel like life is so short
and yeah, but then I was, I was. I get bored.
Wherever I am, like, Iget bored, doesn't matter. It's like

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having a job. You're like,oh, this is a good job,
or a relationship like this is acool new relationship, and then after a
while it like where's off. You'relike, this is the same shit over
and over again. Are you alwayscraving the next new thing? I think
so. Sometimes I am like,I know I did that with clothes sometimes,
like I'll be like, oh mygod, I got up and I
feel like it's my modeling days mylife, you know, the crime of

(20:00):
these nice clothes all the time andyou're like, oh my god, this
is so cool and I'm not reallymodeling like I used to. So now
I like I'll buy like random shit, like and you have that dope mean
rush like when you have like packagecomes, Oh my god, I'm gonna
get this thing that's sitting in mycloset, Like what am I gonna wear
this shit? And look at me, I'm dressed like a hobo right now,
Like I'm not wearing nice clothes now, but I have that excitement to

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Like, it's that the Amazon thing. Right, So you have a closet
that's full of clothes that you don'tnecessarily wear, and you stick and you
end up going for the same exactthings. Well, you're keeping the new
stuff pristine. I always throw onething away when I get something new,
so I'm always like giving away.I'm very similar. That's why I ask.

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I give away a lot of stuff, and then I'm like, oh
I need that, But I'm Ilike thrifting and I like vintage, and
so at least I'm in that recycle. Like I feel good about like the
fact that I'm constantly giving and thenI'm taking, and it's you know,
I have certain friends where we exchangeclothes and it's just a good it's a

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good little system. I can't imagineat in a thrift shop for some reason.
Yeah, I don't know why.I can't imagine you're going through a
Walmart rip shop or up in theback like, oh my god, this
is sail for sale. I can'timagine you doing that. I don't know
why. Hey, hey, hey, I didn't say, Walmart, I
just but I do go to theI go to the Goodwill, especially if

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I'm in a town that like Ifeel like, ooh, there's gonna be
some treasures. Like I was justin Midland, Texas a couple of weeks
ago. I stopped into the Goodwillthere. I got so many great things.
I got a cat backpack. Youget bored in Texas, honestly,
I mean, are you just likewhat am I doing here in Texas?
Sometimes? No? Never, no, wow, No, that's incredible.

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I mean I'm not a spraying chickenanymore. Dar And I you know,
I think like it's also made me. I think in La too, we're
always like being in the entertainment industry, you're like chasing youth, or you're
chasing something you're not. You don'teven know what you're chasing. Sometimes and
coming here, I'm like, oh, I can rest, I can calm
down. I don't need to chaseanything. I don't have to look young,

(22:22):
stay young. I don't like,I can just exist. And that's
been really healthy for me emotionally.That's because I was living in Florida and
I'd get like, God, Ineed more, I need more stimulation for
some reason. I think I'm justlike a coke addict or something like you
know what I'm saying. Well,and then it drives you crazy. But

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like it's like this ying and yanglike like necessary evil. It's weird,
like it makes you addicted to shitout here, like that's stimuli. Yeah,
right, I do. I'm not. I mean, I don't be
right, but like you know,I'll do. I'll go to this coffee
shop like next door, and it'slike literally like five bucks six bucks for
a coffee, wasting so much moneygoing there. I've been going there for

(23:08):
years. People are like, whydo you go there? I'm like,
I'm going there just to like bepart of the energy of like this coffee
shop and just talk to people andjust you know, it's almost like a
jolt of like my personal because otherwiseI'm just secluded, like like I don't
know Henry what's his name? Amillionaire, gut billionaire who like hangout.

(23:29):
He wouldn't come up out of hisroom, he'd like slip notes. What
is the name? I forget theguy in the twenties. It'll come me
later. But I feel like thatsometimes where I'm just like secluded. So
when I leave my place. Sothat's why I feel like La. It's
like generally wherever you go, you'realways like just in this like shit storm.
LA very much has that. AndI think you know, I'm a

(23:51):
mom and I have I'm very busywith my kids. Oh right, I'm
a wife, and I have allthese things I need to do for the
house and the kids and work thatI feel like I could even go slower
and more. Like I live ina pretty like fun little town in Texas.
I almost feel like I can moveto the countryside and live on a

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ramp at this point, like mentally, huh or the North Pole or the
North Pole? Would do you know? People are not allowed to fly over
the North and South Pole. Youget shot down out of the sky.
No, I know that. Yeah, we we're not allowed to know what's
there. See. I don't thinkpeople realize that Shazia has this whole conspiracy

(24:41):
side of See. People don't knowthis is this is this is the side
I think fans would would love toknow, you know that she's actually just
some wackos in Texas. Wow,maybe maybe I'm a conspiracy side. I

(25:02):
have an open mind, and Ihave a curious mind, and so I'm
open to anything that someone sends meto be like, Okay, well let's
check this. Let's see. Youknow, someone told me, hey,
you know they're doing crazy things inthe North and South Polo. It's like,
come on, let me check itout. I'll get a flight up
there. And no they were.I mean, like I don't know what

(25:25):
they're doing, but I know thatpeople can't go up there, like you
have to have super high government clearancelike Antarctica. H I know there's like
random cruises that go there and takepeople there, but like generally speaking,
you can't just go Do you evergo to Ah? What is that silo

(25:47):
roswell? And isn't there? Whatis it that's in New Mexico, Mexico?
No, why would I go there? I don't know if it was
when you were in your LA,like you can just drive up there and
just no. I used to goto the Integratron, which is that those
two NASA scientists that discovered the wartexthat was happening in Joshua Tree and they

(26:08):
built a dome over it and it'slike a naturally occurring vortex and they do
like sound baths and yoga classes andhippy dippy retreat things there from my old
days of being super into that stuff, but that place is neat. Did
you go by yourself but with likea boyfriend. I went with my husband.

(26:33):
Your husband. You were like,hey, let's go on a trip
to integrity. Yeah, I'd rathergo to Vegas. You're like, nope,
No, we're doing a sound bath. Oh my god. See this
is why I k be in arelationship. I swear to god. If
a girl said that to me,we hab to go take a sound bath
and integratron, I'd be like,all right, you know, there's the
door. Have fun. I'm gonnago starn. One week later, you're

(26:57):
going to be there calling me beinglike I should have done this sooner.
I don't even know what to soundabout this. I'll be honest with you,
like, I don't know what thatmeans. It's the singing bowls where
there's that it created like certain gigagigaherts like kind of mess with your brain
waves in different ways. Did youwatch the World We Left Behind that new

(27:22):
movie? No, it's on mymy cue of movies to watch. We
can't talk about it, okay,No, I'm kidding, I'm son my
cue at all I don't even knowthat is what is it? What is
it? Oh, it's that movieabout where the grid goes down and they
start blasting this set. Well,I did see with Julia Roberts. Yeah,
and they blast that frequency sound thatstarts making everyone sick. I did

(27:45):
see it. I didn't. Idon't know what the title led movie was.
I just started watching it. Yeah, that's scary. That could be
real. That could legit happen.If it does happen, I just want
to be one of the I justwant to die early. I don't want
to be survivor. You don't haveenough bunker. You're not trying to bunker.
I have like three bottled waters myapartment. I've got a box of

(28:10):
cheerios. You're not a prepper.You're not prepared me neither. See.
But I feel like Texas is bettersuited to, uh for like disasters like
that. I feel like, Ihonestly feel like that people in like rural
states are just better off, likeknow how to They're more in tune with
life versus like if something goes downhere, I'm not going to get a

(28:33):
biscotti at the coffee shop, youknow, Like there's no biscotti is you're
gonna Yeah, you would be thefirst to go because you're worried about the
biscotti at your coffee shop. Youdon't have to worry. I'm pretty sure
you'd be people. Yeah, mycat allergies, I wor glasses sometimes,
you know, so like I'm justhandicapped. Yeah, if you can be

(28:59):
killed by being in the same roomas a cat, yeah, I don't.
I don't know that we need youryour lineage to continue. Sorry,
no, it's okay, I meanit's probably not going to continue with this
right anyways. But there's a bookcalled called The Road. You should really

(29:22):
check it out, and it's reallyabout uh, it's about that at least
a father and son and there they'retrying to survive and it's literally like this
dystopian life like those movies. I'mlike, wait, what what would I
do in that situation? Like Iwould a turn into a bad ass,

(29:45):
and then I would defend my family. I seriously, I do think like
this is where like family is importantbecause you would do anything to keep your
kids alive, right, I mean, so it's for my kids, it's
not for me. My whole worldexists now for my children. Yes,

(30:07):
that's what we're different, because likethere's nothing for me to live for essentially,
so you actually have your kids toyou know, go out and forge
berries and stuff. I will forgeberries, yes, I do, hunt,
hunt soap and shampoo so they're clean. Yeah, I can make that
stuff. I think it's important toknow how to survive without having to buy

(30:33):
things at a store. You couldreally do that, Honestly, you could
survive without buying things at a store. I mean if I was equipped,
if I lived on my ranch,you know, and I had chickens and
I had goats, and I hadsome cows, so I knew how to
make you know, then I canmake butter, I can make soap,

(30:53):
I can make food. If Ilike, what, can you start a
fire with the right pools with sticks? I think they could maybe with like
a prism or a mirror and maybehave you ever started a fire with a
prism? This isn't a TV show, Shazia, I personally have not,

(31:19):
But I think if I needed toand it was a dire situation, I
would figure it out. I thinkI could figure anything out if if the
situation was right. Don't you no, I'm you know, I did this
thing called outward bound in high schoolwhere they send you the woods with like
a bunch of kids to like campduring winter time. The first day.

(31:41):
No, so I didn't. Ididn't do that. I couldn't have no
cell phones back then, it's thatold. But they give you like rations
of food, right, so yougo out with like groups of seven,
right, and you start out withlike, well the whole junior classmen not
and if they break you up inthe groups of seven and you have food,
and I remember I stole more foodfor my group. It's because I
was like, I'm not going tothey spend you spend three days by yourself,

(32:05):
you know, in the woods,and you got to like type flags
up outside your tree to make sureyou're alive so people can like check up
on you. And I was goingcrazy. I was like and it was
like probably pretty easy, but it'slike February, it was really cold,
and I just remember thinking, man, I am not cut off with this.
This is horrible. Wait, howold were you? Sixteen? That's

(32:27):
really neat that you got to dothat at sixteen. Oh, I'm very
spoiled. I mean I think thatshould be a requirement. You can still
do it. I mean, look, you can do it tomorrow. Go
go in the middle of the woodstomorrow with some peanut butter, some flags.
Not me. I think that childrencould learn a lot from just just

(32:49):
a little reality check of like allthe amazing things you have around you and
how comfortable your life is, andbe grateful for the small things. I
think that you know what's funny isI was watching Skater Girl, which is
a Bollywood film. Have you seenit on Netflix? So I'm like,
c after it really really good.Yeah, and my youngest daughter, who's

(33:13):
ten, because they were showing avillage in India, in Rajasthan that's very
poor, and she's watching it andthen the first scene the girl pulls up
in a car, and or waslike, Mommy, they had cars back
then. I said, back then, this is right now. People live
like this right now. This isn'tolden times. There are people who are

(33:35):
very poor. You are such alucky little girl, like you have no
idea what other people are going through. And so I realized in that moment
that I need to show her howother people live so she could be more
grateful for what she has. Ithink sending them out in the woods for

(33:59):
three days and being like like fooddoesn't come from a grocery store, it
comes from earth. Someone is pickingthese berries somewhat like it's important. I've
only taken them to the ice creamfactory out here, like oh wow,
ice cream is made like this.I'm like, wow, I need to

(34:19):
show them way more, send themthe rajasthan for a couple of weeks.
Yeah, maybe maybe not, butI love. I would love to live
on a ranch or a farm.Really, I would. I would.
I think you're saying some stuff thatin reality it might not be. Uh,

(34:42):
I'm telling you I was the sameway, and look being serious like
I'm always like I'm gonna move toWisconsin or some log cabin and just right.
And then when I moved on,I'm bored out of my mind again.
I need like stimuli, even thoughI'm kind of like a person with
you, Daram. That's what youneed. You need a homie, a
homie or a homegirl. Ho it'sso funny, Yeah, do you go

(35:08):
crazy like like that's why people weregetting divorced during COVID, you know,
but they were like secluded where there'ssignificant other, Like you need, you
need other people and just your homemadehomegirl. Yeah you need a tribe.
Yeah, tribe. When I sayI want to move to a farm,
I mean I want to move toa community of people who have like,

(35:30):
you know, that are like minded, that have other farms where maybe I
have the bees, you know,and they have the whatever the quails,
and the other person has the youknow. So we're like, it's a
what is it like a homestead community? A cult? I wasn't gonna say
that, but I think maybe thatit could be similar to what you're just

(35:51):
what you're saying in description. Butno, not if you described Heaven's Gate
and where those people they like arewearing like nikes and they like all kill
themselves. Oh in San Diego,in like Texas, wasn't it in Texas?
No? I think you're thinking ofthe Waco, Texas ones. Were
they having skate David Koresh is thatthe name? I don't know enough,

(36:13):
but yes, that was in Waco, Texas. I've read some weird stuff
about that. See see this iswhere Texas gets a blemish. And again
I'm not judging Texas, but likeso much weird shit has happened in Texas,
like cult stuff, and well lookat the size of Texas. It's
the largest piece of land in America, so it's gonna have a lot more

(36:39):
things happening. And you know,it's like China. Being my daughter,
one of my daughters said, Mom, do you know that Meanderin is the
number one most spoken language in theworld, And like, yeah, because
it's also where the most amount ofpeople live the world, So stats have

(37:02):
you know, there's different factors thatgo into it that you got to look
at. You can't just take thisstat at fate's value, Like, is
there weird stuff happening in text?Well, yeah, it's just weird stuff
happening everywhere. Yeah, I don'tsee it, but that's not to say,
you know, I did the Idid a job up in Midland,

(37:23):
Texas, and it took me eighthours to get to it. Eight hours
and I was still in Texas,in the middle of Texas. Like that's
how big Texas is. Yeah,I'm not faulting it, I think.
And anybody who joins a cult thatkind of get it. You know,
at some point you're like, youknow, let me just change out my
life a bit. And even ifyou join a cult freedom like a few

(37:46):
months, you can always get outof there. I think humans that join
cults or gangs are looking for family. We're tribal in nature. We want
people around us. So when wefeel lonely, it were subject to being

(38:07):
falling into a gang or a cultbecause we want to belong somewhere. So
it's it's kind of like doing apodcast. Yeah, we invite people into
our audio cult, our audio cultso we can feel like we belong.
I do feel, like I saidon one of our lastcasts that I do

(38:30):
feel creatively alone out here. Sometimeswe're in La there's actors everywhere, and
there's storytellers everywhere, and over hereit's like, oh where do everybody go?
Some then that you know, that'sthat's a nice note, like if
you want to be part of ourfamily, please watch us and come back

(38:52):
and watch anything you want to add. For a wrap up, No,
I want to know if someone hasthe answer to guys, please let us
know. Leave in the comments service, drop us the line, and we'll
talk to you guys later. ThanksShas
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