Shazia and Tarun do a Podcast - Episode 3

Shazia and Tarun discuss early days of Hollywood - getting invited to the Playboy mansion. Shazia gives Tarun dating advice.

Episode Transcript

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Hey, Hey, what's up.I love how you always like dressed stuff?
Am I? Yeah, I meanyou look better than me. We
coordinated. I feel like we're inour neutral fall winter colors. Oh,
how's the weather in Texas? It'sfreezing, it's breathing still. I think

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people are messing with us, screscrewing up the weather all around the world.
Yeah, it's been raining here inLa. Oh. Really, it's
always so like sad when it rainsin La. I feel like why,
I don't know. I always feltlike melancholy when I lived in La and

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it rained. Isn't it sad ingeneral? Though? In La? It's
a good point. That's a reallygood point. I mean, I think
it's an extreme. It's either reallysad or really happy in La. I
don't know that there's a middle ground. Feels very extreme over there. Somebody

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once told me, he goes there'sthis weird dichotomy of La because it's always
sunny, but yet it's endless rejectionand just despondency of going through the motions.
So it's like you're supposed to behappy, but you're constantly like getting
hit and hit and hit. Well, you don't feel like you've ever reached

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like your final destination there. It'sa constant rat race. And I think
if you're in the industry, nobodytalks about mental health for actors and models
and the fact that actors and modelsface rejection multiple times a day after they've

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given their one hundred percent, theirbest shot, everything have and it's no,
no, no, no no,And they're not getting any mental help
or any support for all that rejection. What are they supposed to do?
I feel like so many actors andmodels are so sad and suffering from mental
illness right now. And it's likepeople are like, Oh, just be

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happy you're in this industry. Youget to do something that nobody does.
I get that, but rejection everysingle day, it affects you. Yeah.
I just wanted to be improv likelast week or two weeks ago,
and I met this lady named ZoeFriedman who so Bud Friedman owned the improv

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and or his daughter he died andhis daughter, I guess owns it now
or whatever. But she has thiswhole thing it's like called Comedy Gifts Back
or something, and it's basically therapyfor comedians with all the kids are killing
themselves, and I was like,I've never even heard of this, so,
well that's really neat. Where isthat? What do you know more
about it? You just talked toher briefly or that's what I was like,

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Well, I guess it's like alsoa fun too if you need money,
like if you don't, a lotof these guys comics are inning out,
so I really I don't really looktoo much into it, but it
seemed like a nice gesture and theyhad like some benefits shown. These huge
comedians were on, like Sebastian,David Spade and all that stuff. Nice.

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Yeah. Yeah, I just mether briefly and we talked about that,
and she's like, you look likeyou need middle out and I was
like, Oh, isn't that obvious. I I just saw her. I
just started talking at randomly. Ohthat's cool, my dad started this whatever.
I wanted to ask you if yousaw the Emmys too, No,
nobody did. I just I catchedthe highlights. At this point, I

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can't sit through those shows too much. Did you ever go to the Emmys?
No? Only the after parties.One in the after party. Wow.
Yeah, well that's about that.Tell me about that. I'll tell
you later about that. No.No, some of the red carpet parties,

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I did get invited to many ofthem, and they were really I
mean crazy sometimes as far as likejust being so elaborate the food. I
went to one where I think Iwent to one at Seth McFarlane's house once
and it was like white tigers asyou walk in, just okaying out,

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you know, because why not havewhite tigers greeting people? Wow, Yeah,
you have to know celebrities to getto the party. I think I
was just invited by being in theindustry. I don't I don't, I
don't recall. I feel like myagents or my managers were like, oh,

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you got to go here now.Kind of one of those things.
I don't get invited these parties,at these crash parties pretty much. When
you crash parties, well I goto like I don't really go to a
level. I guess there was atime of I went to you know,
Paul Rodriguez's comedian. Yes, Iwent to his birthday party last week and

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I just crashed it. I justshowed up with a friend, right and
I was telling I was telling myfriend of mine. I felt like that
scene in three Amigos, but PaulRodriguez is like this famous comedian from the
eighties. But the scene in ThreeAmigos when Chevy Chase infiltrates El Guappo's like
secret base and if you remember thescene, and and Chevy Chase is dressed

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up like this Mexican guy and Alguappo'strying to figure out he's going through his
lineup like thieves. He's like,hey, and you we did this together.
And you we did this together.And he sees Chevy Chase and he's
like in you and Chevy's like,yeah, we uh we pillaged the village,
Like yeah, I pillage the villageand we drank yeah, drink liquor

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because we raked the cows. He'slike, who the fuck are you get
the you know, I feel likethat that Like Paul's like looking at He's
like, and you happy, britthanks for coming you, Like, yeah,
we did the inprov we're eighty seven. He's like, yeah, it's
like this guy you know at thisparty. But so you didn't get kicked

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out, you got to stay.He was pretty cool. He's a nice
guy, and uh, you know, it wasn't like a super celebrity thing.
But he's a pretty decent. He'ssuper funny. And it's also like
he's like sixty nine. It's comingthe older side too, So it wasn't
like a white Tigers what white.Yeah, I mean those were years ago.

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I'm not I'm not trying to actlike I'm still twenty five going to
trying to get into the parties.I mean, let's face it, I
think a lot of those parties invitedyoung models and actresses back then that were
quote unquote hot or good looking.Right, they just wanted that ambiyonce around

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at these events and parties. It'sstill good looking. We'll be talking about
you could easily go to these parties, thanks darn. But you know,
I'm not. I'm not a springchicken anymore. I'm not trying to be
one. I'm kind of digging thewhole. Pamela Anderson, just like grow
old and own it. Like stoptrying with all the plastic surgery and the

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makeup and the like. Stop justbe the age that you are. It's
okay, we accept it now.You know. Fifteen years ago, I
think that Hollywood marketing, TV allof that was still about like being pretty
and being aspirational and people were beautifulif they were on TV or in ads,

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But over the last fifteen years there'sbeen a gradual change towards it's not
believable. If you're too pretty,no one's gonna buy. That's if a
beautiful woman is in it, everyonefalls out of the storyline unless it really
specifically calls for it. If youwatch television commercials or you walk into a

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mall and you look at ads,the majority of the people are relatable to
unique and quirky, not necessarily whatused to be considered pretty fifteen years ago.
That is kind of outdated. Sothat's been interesting to see. That
was a tangent. I went on, sorry, no, I actually feel

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like it's the opposite in comedy becausebefore I like really noise comedy, but
before you have to kind of havea certain quirky look. But now there
are guys like Matt Rife. Idon't know if you know, we're right.
I think in comedy it's gone theopposite and the opposite, and now
you can be like really good lookingand do comedy and people are like,
oh, this is interesting. It'sweird. It's like it's weird dynamic,

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it's like shifted. It absolutely hasit, absolutely has. Yeah, because
I wanted to do comedy when Ifirst started, and everyone was like,
well, you just don't look funnyenough because you know what is your cat
there? Huh? No, youknow what I got. Let's see.
Oh are we doing a live unboxing? I love those. No, we

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got to hear the ASMR. Weneed to hear like the sound of everything
because you're like an espresso pods.Oh and so I have like an espresso
espresso machine, so I basically makemy own espresso. That's nice. Is
it like those pods that go intoCuig but for an espresso? You know

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the guy who invented that technology orwhatever, like he sold it for like
nothing to Cuig like an idiot,And then now he's come out saying,
oh, I regret it because it'scaused causing so much plastic waste on the
planet. Thank you, random randomcoffee pod stuff. I didn't think about

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it. Do you have any addictionsthat you addictions? Vices? Because I
feel like mine is coffee? Wow? So many? Yeah, I have
so many. I do I need. I like to have like my morning

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structure the same, so I haveto have either tea or coffee in the
morning and then I need to workout. You work out today, I
will work out when we're done.Yeah, in that sweater? Yes,
of course, doesn't everybody work outin sweaters like this? I go to
pilate's. I could work out inanything. Do you feel like as you

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get older you can't do what youused to do when you were working out
because I've cut my workout scheduled tremendously. Yeah, Like, what do you
mean? Like I was be ableto run like every day, and I
can't do that anymore. Like Ifeel like I feel like things start to
hurt, and so I was like, this is I'm pushing my body too

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much. My body's telling me tocut back a bit. I feel like
that absolutely. I used to dohit workouts and spin cycling classes, and
that kind of workout doesn't work formy body anymore. I have to do
yoga, pilates, and I dowhat I walk. I get my steps
in, and when I do atleast ten to fifteen thousand steps a day

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it consistently like every day, thenI'm in the best shape of my life.
But it's been so cold that Ihaven't been walking so and I feel
it like I feel it in mybody that I'm not getting my steps in,
Like, like, how cold doesthe gate outside in Texas? Well,
earlier it was twenty see what itis, I'm serious twenty three in

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Texas. Yeah, it's forty oneright now, so I'm not going to
go walking and it's going to rainthe rest of the week. Yeah.
I think this is like the aftermathof the storms, like the winter stuff.
I think there's like a cold frontmoving. By the way, you'd
be a good weather girl, youprobably Do you really think about that,

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like going to going into the weather. Yeah, no, never a Why
I feel like you would have beena good weather girl. Like just seeing
you in front of that screen behindyou, I could see you. It's
like rain today and all week we'regoing to have rain in southern Texas.
Go inside and get your umbrellas.I have my electric blanket. Have you

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used one of these? No?I find them too dangerous. What do
you mean like with water? Water? Like what if I drink expilm my
water on it, electrocute myself?Oh? I never even thought about that.
You think I could electrocute myself ifI spilt water on my blanket easily?

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Easily? Probably not hazard. Okay, no, they really work,
like really work. Before we getoff on the topic of you going to
celebrity parties and seeing Tiger's do youever go to the Playboy Mansion? Did
I ever go to the Boy Mansion? Tell me what that's like? Come

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on, said, I know you. Wait, hold on, I'm going
to get something for you. Playboyissue number six hundred and five, The
Women on Walking Street. I can'tbelieve I have this, but I recently
was going to get rid of allof this. Okay, So back in
the early two thousands, in thelate nineties, if you were a model,

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you were invited to Playboy Mansion party. We didn't I plan this.
I asked you a question. Theselike way, boy man, these photos
that you want to play Shadia,you are invited to halfs New Year's Eve
party? When was this? Itdoesn't say, oh, two thousand and

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one. She goes in one.Look how creepy this one is? That's
the card that was the invitation.Wow, come and joined the fun at
Haaps Midsummer Night's Dream. Ooh looktwo thousand So yeah, there's a lot.

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So how do you invited? Isit through your agency? Did you
you hefner. Oh, this one'scool. Yeah, it was, uh
oh, here's the map. Wealways had to park at UCLA and get
shuttled in. It's always weird.Another two thousand. Yeah, it started
off with my agency, and thenonce you're on the list, you're on

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the list, so you get invitedall these crazy events. But I never
did Playboy, and they never offeredit to me. They never said,
hey, do you want to trytesting? Because I had friends who tested,
like they would do a shoot totest to be in Playboy or be
a playmate, but that was neveryou know, my trajectory was not without

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clothes on. Is it really hardto get in the Playboy the party or
in the magazine? In the magazine, I think there's a whole process,
like they really kind of vet youpretty hard. I had friends, well,
acquaintances. I had acquaintances who wouldthey would have to come down,

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go to a party. They'd beinvited to, like a smaller event like
a dinner in a movie, andthen they would do a test shoot where
they would kind of see how theylooked on camera, and then from then
they would be offered and there wasdifferent deals like either just like a centerfold
spread in the magazine like an editorialwhere some of them were offered, Okay,

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now you come and live, oryou get a contract where you have
to be at events dressed like abunny. I don't know it was I
was close to, but I wasn'tin sure I was there. Well,
I think back then it was adifferent market. First of all, I
think Playboy had a way more cachethan did now, especially with you after

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her being gone, But also backthen, I mean it could really launch.
I mean Pamela Anderson you mentioned her, didn't she start as a Playboy
model and then she got Home Improvement. She did start well, actually she
was found at a sporting event wherethey kind of panned the camera onto her.

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Some product line was like who wasthe girl in the blue, and
so they used her in like thisswimsuit ad and then Playboy saw her there.
So people were getting discovered back thenin a different way. But you
know, Pamela couldn't break out ofthat ever. I mean, that's all
we ever knew her at and we'restill talking about her, and you know

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that she got started doing that,So I think it was really hard for
those girls to break out of thatmarket. But she became a huge,
huge TV star, I mean withinlimited acting ability. She was no Baywatch
the lead actually Baywatch. She didso many things. I mean, my
first guest star was on her TVshow VIP. That's the first guest star

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I ever booked, and she wasincredibly kind and so welcoming on her set.
She had me come to her trailer. She asked me if I you
know how I liked my hair andmakeup. She had her makeup artist redo
my makeup, make sure every thinglooked really good. I actually did that
with Sarah is it Silverman? Yeah, the scene with her and we were

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on VIP. Pamela is actually apretty good actress. But again, because
everyone knows her as this bombshell playboygirl, nobody would take her serious.
You must have had some pretty majorguest star for her to say, hey,
you coming, how do you wantyour makeup done? Was there not
a makeup person too? I hadto make a person, but she wanted

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her personal makeup artist to make sureI looked really good on her TV show.
It reflects her. It was reallyneat. What was your part on
the show. I played a modelwho Sarah Silverman is convinced is a hit
woman, and so they're kind ofstaking me out, and then the cops
run up on me, ready toarrest me, and I'm like, dude,

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I'm just a model, a lesbianmodel. Why I mean memories he
was saying that because he said that. I'm only saying because you said you
told me on the phone that youkeep going out for lesbian worlds. I
think it since I cut my hair. It's like, my agent will send
me something and they're like theme sexcouple. I'm like, why what is

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that the vibe I'm giving off rightnow? I don't know. Maybe I
am. There's this great book,not the change topics here, but there's
this you know who Fred Stoler is. He's this comedian who's been a bunch
of stuff, and he wrote thisbook about being on guest stars and all
these TV shows, and he basicallywrote about all these experiences doing guest stars,

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going show to show to show toshow, because he was in all
these shows in the nineties. AndI don't know if you've done it.
I'm sure you've done a number ofguest stars, but it's almost like you're
part of their machine and you goto the next one and there's like a
certain you know, like friends orwhatever, like and everyone treats you differently,
like some are great experiences. Ishould plug this book. It's called

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I Think Maybe Maybe We'll Have YouBack by fret Stole. It's really and
I really love those inside the Lookbooks that really hold nothing back. It's
pretty cool. Yeah, that soundsright up my alley. You can write
a book about modeling and going tothe Playboy parties. I'd buy it.
I think if you were a modelin the late nineties and the early two

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thousands, you were invited to thePlayboy Mansion parties, it wasn't something unique
to me. It was unique toanyone in the industry. I guess I
was never invited. I was acommercial lifestyle model. You were a man.
You still are? Well, Idon't know, are you? I

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don't know. It's twenty twenty three. I don't want to assume, right,
I know. My pronouncer he himbunny. Ooh okay, So like
the Playboy midlife Crisis, dar himBunny, Are you having a midlife crisis?
Yes, you had life crisis yet? Oh definitely? Are you kidding

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me? What did that look likefor you? Mmm? Cheers? I
almost bought a motorbike at one point. You have a weird thing for motorbikes,
don't you. I feel like onthe CEOC you were always like trying
to ride a motorbike. I know. I was like, really, I
want to buy a motorbike, andthen I realized I was gonna kill myself.

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So la and motorcycles they're not agood match. No, they're not.
Especially now, like I've got thisthing where like I don't want to
be dependent on anybody, so likeI feel like I seriously injure myself.
I don't want to be in thehospital of like self reliance, I know,
And nobody's gonna come help me hopingby myself. That's my worst fear.

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No going to help me. Somany friends, you have so many
fans, I know, but i'dbut my friends fands the misery. Here's
your waffle, you know what I'msaying. At least like you know,

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like people say, don't rely onyour kids to take care of you when
you get older, But I dothink you have to figure out like as
you get older, like you becomeyou know, less functional. That's just
what's going to happen as we getinto our seventies and eighties. I know
that's far away, but but I'veseen it. It's I know you've seen
it. Yeah, it's a crazytime, and yeah, I don't I'm

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not. I'm not even going tothink about it right now. We have
store. Give your kids. Theydon't have to worry about that. You
got your You got your cat,Sheba, whatever your name is. Yeah,
my cat would totally come take careof me, Sheba Chicken, Chicken.
I should have posted your link though, for my cat's my worst nightmare?

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What was that show? A Catfrom Hell? I found the link
and I sent to the Shasia.I said, I found I found the
show. You can actually find it. Sorry to plug a Shazia, but
you did fantastic on it, bothyou and Stewart. And the cat was
from hell. The cat was reallymisbehaved. I hope he's living about our
life now. I mean, Ireally found the right home for him,

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and I have two wonderful cats thatmatch my family. I think that show
fails to show that, you know, sometimes it's just not a match.
It's like dating. You're not goingto just settle with everybody you date.
Not a match. I think thedating, though, is a lot different

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if you're a guy and girl,and you know, since you're here,
we can ask you. Because asa pretty girl and I talk to my
friends all the time, I feellike, if you're a pretty girl,
it's just way different. Guys arejust taking after I just saw some posts,
some girl posts that she goes Ihave in my groceries in two years

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because I go in six dates aweek to get free meals. I was
like, oh my god, likeliterally, girls can do this. They
can go on dates. Guys willfeed you and you can go home and
like, I'm going to see thisguy again, and guys are like,
what happened. I think it takesa specific type of girl to do that.
I remember I had this job outof high school at a hair salon.

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I was a receptionist and one ofthe hair I was really struggling because
I was living on my own.I had my own apartment. Like my
senior year in high school, Igot my own place, and I had
to pay all my bills, andyou know, I was just suddenly on
my own and I'm eighteen, andso sometimes the hairdressers would help me.
They bring me grossery. And oneof the hairdressers said when I was your

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age, I didn't pay for myfood. I would just go on six
dates every you know, six datesand go out to dinner, and then
I would figure out how to getsomeone to buy me groceries're in the
week. She's like, you shouldn'tbe paying for food. You're young and
you're pretty. Just just have guysdo it for you. And I just
was like, that's not me.I don't know, I don't know how

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to do that. So I wasnever able to quite accomplish the getting the
free step. Somehow. I alwayshad boyfriends that I was paying stuff for
back then. I don't know howthat happened. Maybe it's your fetish we're
homeless guys, I do. Yeah, I think you're right. No,

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but seriously, you don't know ifI don't feel like it's kind of unfair
or like, and look, Itotally understand how guys are insane. In
fact, there's so many like comediansto talk about this, how it's an
insane thing. Hey, I'm gonnago out with this crazy guy who you
could be insane, who's like aIt could be some big strong dude who

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could be like a rapist, whoknows what goes on you. You pull
your your full of faith in thisdude. But at the same time,
as a guy, it's like,and there's so many pretty girls here in
LA. It's like you're on thisrotation of just everywhere LA is pretty girls.
If you're a pretty girl anywhere inthe United States, you moved to

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LA to try and make it inthe business. However, I'm gonna say
pretty isn't necessarily in right now inthe marketing world. What is your definition
of pretty? The definition of prettyhas changed, which I think is a
good thing. Honestly. Well,I just sent a clip of Stephen A.
Smith and he was talking about likedating. I don't know why I'm

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listening to Stephen you know, StephenA. Smith as the sports analyst,
and he was like, He's like, go with a strong seven. He's
like, the nine will always leaveyou the eight. You know, I
just think she's the nine or whatever. He goes the strong sevens where it's
at, And honestly, I kindof agree with it because every time,

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but is there a universal strong seven. I mean, what you're imagining in
your mind and what I'm imagining inmy mind at a seven might be two
different things. Well, they definitely. What's a seven in your mind?
I mean a seven in my mind. Numerically rate yourself, Shadza, Where
do you see yourself? Where doI see myself on the scale? Well,

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I think there's much more to considerthat ends up showing on the outside.
You're asking a mom to talk aboutbeauty. This is I'm asking you
to give yourself a number one toten. I can't give myself a number
one to ten. Ten Jarzy tosay at ten. I think there was
a time I was definitely a ten. However, I didn't know I was

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a ten looking back and I'm like, wow, I've how do you know
you're getting invites with the Playboy mansion? I mean everybody who was a model
after was getting I never got aninvite to the Playboy because you had a
male body part. I'm not backthen, Okay, I don't know that
because you weren't a seven or above. I guess what do you mean not

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back then? If you're asking me. Girls have so many options that they
can just go from guy to guy, you know, and it kind of
it kind of messes up. Itmesses up guys because you know there's a
whole like like like in cell movementof dudes who were just like just angry
because they've gone through life like rejectedby girls and stuff. So but at

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the same time, you know,I always tell this is more like dudes.
But I always tell my friends comingup, I was like, you
got to really focus on yourself,you know, really just make the best
version of yourself and then and thenthe right girl will come along. But
don't girls. That's just I thinkI think it goes both ways. You
know, there's girl there's a lotof girls who get used by guys throughout

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their lives. So as much asmen are looking for hot girls, hot
girls are looking for rich dudes.Like it's just the way that it's working
and worked out. So I thinkI think there's just two sides to the

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coin. You know, a lotof girls have been done wrong by a
bunch of guys who are looking toconstantly upgrade. Especially in LA. It
always feels like when you're a womandating in LA, that the man is
looking to upgrade and he has thoseoptions, especially if he has money,
just like the really pretty girl isperhaps looking that grade constantly. I couldn't

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deal with that. I feel like, yeah, it's a tough dating world
out there. No, it sucks. I mean, I mean, look,
I'm sitting by myself. But atthe same time, I also knew
see I watched The Indian Matchmaker onNetflix, like the preview, and I
was like, oh, you knowthat kind of sounds appealing now, Like
if I was not married, Imight just be like, okay, Matchmaker,

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you figure it out for me,because clearly I got it all wrong.
Well look, I think I'm nottrying to defend my life here,
but I think there is a beautyto being by yourself, and there's a
beauty to having a family. Right, there's so many frozen cons to both
sides. But like I said,as you get older, I think that

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might shift, Like what our needsmight be different, especially when we're in
her twenties, Like what we're lookingfor. We're just totally different people than
who we were when we were youknow, eighteen, nineteen twenty five,
even last year. I'm a differentperson. Oh my gosh. Yeah,
completely, I want different things.And you know, I feel like as
you get older, you just wantsomeone you can grow old with that's like

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really freaking cool, like someone thatyou could just be like chilling with,
laughing with, be able to belike gypsy life with Does that exist?
I mean, I know you're married, but see as you get older,
I'm like, I don't even knowif that exists anymore. I don't know
if I believe in that. Ithink it does. I think maybe what

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is your age range that you're yourdating pool, because you might need to
make Yeah, that's where you're doingit wrong. You might want to step
it up too closer to your ageand I think you will find that woman.
You're out there and you're listening andyou're super cool and you're at solid
seven and you like to laugh alot and chill and oh no, no,

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no laughing aloud, no laughing,no laughing aloud, laughing, it's
got to be morose. Okay,there you go, Please right in right
into me, and I'll vet youbecause I'm actually pretty protective over Darren.
He's quite the catch. Ladies,you're doing a horrible job now, you
know. I meet girls all thetime. I just it just doesn't spark

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anything anymore because I'm like, it'sgot girls. Yeah, but my friend's
got this great joke, Josh Wade, and he's he's like, basically dating
is like going to Ross Ross's He'slike, who's left the people on the
floor and stuff, you know,which is kind of true. I mean

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that's what the dates of the vastwasteland of you know, heartbroken singles and
stuff like people are divorced with kidsand we're like alcoholic fucket, you know
what, and they settle. Peoplesettle. I mean, this is a
whole other conversation. But people settlein life. I think so. But
I'm going to say that some peoplewho are divorced, they aren't washed up

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Ross Goods. I think there's someNorch solid norse Strom rock designer stuff where
you tell me where you just youneed to You need to be introduced through
a friend. Maybe you have afriend who has a widowed best friend or
something. Are you talking about.Shady tried to introduce me to her friend

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who's widowed in in Florida. She'slike, you got to meet her,
and I'm like, you should meether. You need to be open.
That's the problem. You're not opento it. This I'm not open.
That's what it is. That's whatI'm not open to it. That's what
it is. Yeah, So youneed to shift your whole mindset. I
have this conversation with my friend who'slike, I keep meeting these jerks.

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She's super successful. Maybe you needto meet her. She's super successful,
educated, owns her own business.She's like, but she's like dating these
jerks all the time who ghost her. And I'm like, it's because you
aren't open to it, and peoplefeel that, and so you attract what
you put out there. You're puttingout there that you're not, that you

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have all these walls up and you'renot serious. Hey, since since you
brought it up, I've always wantto know this, Like, are pretty
girls attracted to jerks? Because mostguys are simps and they're like buying you
free shit, and then like thejerk guy's like, you know, I'm
just gonna do my own thing andnot text you back. Is that more
attractive? I think it's I thinkit depends on where the pretty girl is

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on her spiritual journey, because ifshe has stuff that she's still dealing with
from her childhood, then she's probablyattracted to the jerk who isn't giving her
the attention because she masks everything withoh, you're so pretty, you're so
pretty, you're so pretty, andthen suddenly she meets a guy who's kind
of like, well, you're pretty, but and then she like is trying

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to win him over. But Ithink someone who's really further along on their
spiritual journey and they have found aninner peace and their connection the universe,
then they aren't going to deal witha jerk ever. They're going to know
there's who's got time for that bea good person. What's wrong with you?

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Wow, we're living in two differentworld Shazia. Why what do you
mean? I don't know. Ijust feel like I feel like if I'm
too nice to a girl off thebat, if she's really pretty. By
the way, first of all,I don't date models anymore. That's just
I don't know if I even Ifelt it was invisible sometimes, But when
I was dating girls who were likesuper attractive, it was like I always
felt like they were in a candystore, Like I knew every time they

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went out, guys were always hittingon them, and I'd see it right
in front of my face, andI was like, this is just ridiculous,
And this is you dating people inLos Angeles and Miami. Let's have
you come to Texas for a month. DoD dating extravaganza here. Nice.

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Yeah, let's introduce you to anice Southern girl who has a good spiritual
foundation. Good spiritual foundation. Ithink that as you get older, right
now, that is what you're Thatis the key ingredient you're lacking in your
dating pool. And it doesn't meanit has to be a specific religion.

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I'm just talking generally speaking spiritual.I feel like Ellie does have that spirituality
thing, right, I mean theyor is it just new ag tipanga.
I saw a shaman, he gaveme ayahuasca, and now my life change
it. I gave up all myLouis Baton's to the Goodwill. We're in
the same page here. Yeah,it's a different spiritual there. Trust me.

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I was in it. Oh I'mstill in it. Me. I
am. You're in the middle ofit. You're in the thick of it.
Hey, this isn't about my datingproblems. This is about Shasi.
Is how do we get Shazi backinto the Playboy mansion. I don't want

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to go to the place. Iknow, I know, you know,
I'm just saying, but I'm sohappy at being in this age range.
You know. I got an auditionlast week and they were like looking for
epscale women in their fifties, andI was like, I mean, I
am not close to fifty, butheck yeah, I'm good audition for that.

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Like that makes me excited. Iknow that the talent pool is so
much smaller too, so why not. But I'm owning this. I don't
mind growing old in Hollywood, olderand old eventually, I think it's a
good thing. Well, we're allenjoying their ride, Shazia. We get

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the best in your and your beautyand acting talent and now your conversation,
so appreciate you. Anything you wantto plug or anything before we wrap up.
I actually think you should watch thePamela Anderson documentary. All right,
everyone, Yeah, it's really good. It's very nostalgic for that era that

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I think we were both in Hollywoodpursuing our dreams. All right, everyone,
check out Pamela Anderson's documentary and we'llsee you guys next time. Take
care, bye,