Shazia and Tarun do a Podcast - Episode 5

Shazia tells Tarun about getting cut out of a Doritos commercial and they discuss the trappings of Hollywood

Episode Transcript

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Chasi a dean. How are youdoing? Oh my god, I'm a
mess. Why I was outing comedy? This comedy is such a bad lifestyle.
I was out so late and wheneverabout late, like I'm just destroyed
the next day. But it's likethis constant, you know, culmination of

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just out being late doing shows.Well, your body needs rest, That's
what it is. That's what itis. Yeah, And I wake up
and I wake up early, andI think I talked to you in the
morning. I was at the coffeeshop, so got some coffee, ready
to go, did some coke.We're rolling, baby, take a vallium

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at night or whatever. I don'tknow. How are you going to get
rest? Are you back tonight?No? No, no, to night.
I'm off? Okay? Good?Actually needs sleep? What is sleep?
Well do you do you? Howmany hours of sleep do you get?
I get at least dight? Wow? Really all I've always been that

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way. I'm a sleeper. Theidea grouchy. If I don't get sleep,
I'm grouchy. Is that all?Naturally? You take sleeping pills?
Oh? No, I can fallasleep. I mean, listen, if
there's stuff going on in my lifeand I have anxiety. I can't fall
asleep. I do have those nights, but then I make up for it.

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I will sleep in if I can. Are you like Michael Jackson,
You're like I need my milk,proper fame, whatever you was taking,
and you're like cooked up? AndI watched that Did you see that new
documentary about where they filmed that songin nineteen eighty five with Michael Jackson and

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all the other singers. No,not band Aid, but the other song
about feeding the kids in Africa.Oh we are the world to that one,
Yes, we are the world andoh it's so good, It's so
good. Richie's in it, SydneyLauper is in it. And they talk

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and Lionel Ritchie tells the funniest storyabout when they were writing the song at
Michael Jackson's house and Michael Jackson hadall these crazy animals, like he had
is monkey, remember he had thechimpanzee, bubbles, had a snake that
had been lost for a while thatmade an appearance while Lionel was there.
And then he had like a talkingbird fighting with the dog. And I

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was just like Michael Jackson was likeno other human. Oh the guy was
the King back in the eighties.Wait, So Lionel Richie produced We Are
the World. Lionel so Quincy Jonesproduced it, and Lionel Richie and Michael
Jackson wrote it. It was supposedto be with Stevie Wonder, but Stevie
Wonder wasn't able to join in onthe writing of the actual so Lionel Richie

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goes through and tells what the processwas like coming up with the song.
It's a really cool documentary. Youknow, clips have been showing up on
my TikTok was was was wilind IsWilin Jennings, the guy Rother Dukes of
Hazard theme this the Southern guy.He like walks out halfway through. He's
like, this isn't for me.Yes, he did, absolutely, and

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they show that they show him walkout. It's when Stevie Wonder was like,
we need to put a verse inin Swahili. We all need to
learn this Swahili verse. And thenthe like the artists are arguing, like
but this is Ethiopia and they don'tspeak Swahili and Ethiopia necessarily, and so
there was this like creative argument andhe was like piece out, I'm out,

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Like no, this isn't for me, man. I remember when that
song came out, and I probablyknew all those singers back then. Even
back then I knew when I wasa kid, oh Cydy Lauper, and
this person probably a new eighty percent. If you were to show me today's
top musicians in a group, I'dbe like, who are these people?
I wouldn't even know who to youknow, totally. But that goes to

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show back then there were less artists. You know, there was network TV,
So if it was on the AmericanMusic Awards, then we knew them,
and if they weren't, we basicallydidn't know them unless you know,
I mean even like coffee shop bandsdidn't become a thing until the nineties when
Brune got into style. So butnow there's just so many musicians. How

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could we know them all? Butyou're right, I didn't know, like
the top trend being pop musicians oftwenty twenty three or twenty four. Oh
my god. I tried to watchthe MTV VMAs or just like the clips
of it, and I was like, who are these people? But I
knew them ten years ago. Itwasn't that bad. Ten years ago.
I would be able to pick themout. Now, I'm like, man,

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I don't know these people are AndI guess I'm just And I remember
being a kid like listening like mydad's music, my mom whatever, like
their generation. I'd be like,what is this? You know, we're
four seasons or she about whatever thehell they were listening to, probably more
Indian Ship. But I'm just saying, when you're a kid, you don't
understand your parents' music. And Iwas like, am I just becoming in

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an adult? Right? I don'tunderstand kids music? I think so I
think that's the process of life.What are your kids listening? Like Taylor
Swift? What do you what doyou listen to? So my girls actually
do listen to a lot of eightiesmusic because that's the station that I have
on in the car, So theyknow a lot of eighties music. But

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my girls are into like Christian rockbands like their dad. Yeah. Yeah,
Like Aurora loves Lauren Dagel so muchso she wants to go to her
concert. Who doesn't love Lauren Dagel? Yeah that is I didn't either until
my daughter started listening to her everyday all day. She's pretty good.

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Yeah, it's I I feel likebecause comedy is very hard. And then
I look at musicians and I'm like, this is way harder comedy. Because
I would do shows sometimes in thesecolleges or like a US military tour,
and it was just me and amicrophone. But the bands would like to
show up with their instruments and soundchecks and amps, and I was like,
this is so much production for oneperformance. My first boyfriend was a

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musician and a glass flower, butI had a truck in high school.
I inherited my father's Nissan pickup truckand I was the roadie for their band.
So all the equipment will go inthe back of my truck and I
take them to their gig. Andthen yes, even the way they have
to wrap the wires. You can'tjust messily wrap up wires. You have

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to like there's a whole process andthe way you tie them to put them
into the car, and the organizationwas like tetritz of like the way the
equipment will go into my truck.It's a lot of work. And we
should say Shazi was dating the leadsinger of Metallica, so she was the
roading from Metallica and just I wasreally into Motley Crue when I was in

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junior high school. Sure, theywere huge and they went well, they
went to my junior high school.My junior high school used to be a
high school and the garage band thatstarted there was Motley Crue. So they
were kind of still of Glendora andCobina, California, where I grew up.
And yeah, so I was superinto them, and then I met

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Nikki six. I think like whenI was twenty two years old at a
convention that was super cool. Yeah. I've only met one rock star and
that was Richie Sambora and he wasan ice work at Spin City's TV show

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in the late nineties early two thousands. I was an intern and Heather Lockley
was on the show and she wasdating Richie sand Bora, and Heather lock
Layer kind of sucked, but RichieSambora was always like super nice. Oh
I love that. So, yeah, rockers are a different breed. They
aren't like actor celebrities, I mean, musicians. It's like another world.

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Would you be a mean celebrity ifyou were I know, we always go
back to if you're famous, wouldyou be like a mean person? No?
Why? I mean unless someone wasimposing on my privacy. If I
was going through a hard time andpeople were trying to like get into my
home or threaten my safety, Idon't know that i'd be mean, but
I would definitely be a mama bear. I would. I would defend myself.

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I would try and protect myself amazingbecause I see a lot of celebs
and I feel like people are justmorons, Like they just invade your social
space, your private space and theydon't care at all. Like I'd see
people just like just I'm there.I think selfies with celebrity, I'm like,
dude, are you insane? Likethere's like boundaries, but people don't

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respect must drive you insane after awhile. Yeah, I can't imagine.
I would never run up onto acelebrity force a photo with them, know
why they're human. Yeah, Ithink I'd be a kind of kind of
a dick just because I'd want thatcarrier. Like, honestly, there are

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comedians and they do like meeting rootsafter shows and they charge money for that.
Yeah, you got to charge paylike an extra one hundred bucks to
meet them. And I was likeI kind of get it because not to
sound like I'm not famous at all, but some of those after shows,
you're exhausted talking to people, Likethey always come up to you and they
want to talk and they tell youwhat their life story, like the time

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they did comedy, or they knowtheir cousin knows so and so from God,
and you're just like listen, andit's it's mentally exhausting, Like you
do a show and then you've gotto sound like a bit here, but
then you got to talk to everybody, and it's like draining like everybody.
For them, it's a big deal, like one on one. But that's

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like to that over and over andover, and like, man, I
just want to go home, youknow, especially after you've gone up there
and done a whole performance. Youneed to be in your own space.
Yeah, so expect you guys tostay after and well you're trying to excel
shit to them after the show merchandise. But at the same time, even

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if you're not selling, you justwant to engage with your fans, you
know, yeah, because you knowthey came out, they bought a ticket,
they bought a hard dollar, spenda hard dollar to go to your
show, So you want to appreciatethem. But at the same time,
it's like dude, I'm exhausted,and it's it takes a lot out of
you. Yeah, that is atough balance. I can't imagine that not

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for me. When I leave aset from working all day, No,
I am straight to bed. Idon't even want to go out and like
network and go to dinner. It'slike, no, I need to get
home or like get on a treadmillor go for a walk or something.
Get on a treadmill. What aboutlike when you go for like shoots and
stuff, I mean even the makea sure. Are you like one of

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those people who likes to talk tolike everybody when you show up on set
or are you just I find avery delicate balance because I've been on sets
where like that guy shows up who'slike, hey, I'm talking to everyone
of friends with everyone, how youdoing, oh man, blah blah,
And it's like exhausting to even watchthose people. Yeah, so I got

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that. But I'm also not completelyquiet, but I do make conversation.
I try and connect with each individualperson. I'm also very grateful I know
how hard and stressful it is tobe on a set at give any given
time, because there's so many creativedifferences happening on a set, so and

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b. There's just so much moneywriting on every minute, and so I
respect them money that's writing on it, and I let people do what they
need to do creatively. I trynot to get too much in the way
that has that has bit me inthe behind. Before I had booked well,

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I had booked a Dourto's commercial andit was going to be me and
Enrique a Glcias and I'm this girlthat he pulls out of the crowd while
he's performing and we eat Dorito's together, but he actually just wants my Dorito
and I think he's pulling me outbecause I'm eating Dorito's in the front row.
It's about everyday circumstances that happens toeverybody, right. I each Dorito's

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in the front row of a concert. And I booked this job and when
I went to the audition, Ilooked, you know, like a teenager.
I had braids, no makeup on. So I get to set and
there's a lot of strass because EnriqueGlacias is only available to shoot that day
for one hour. He's not goingto be there all day, so they're

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all stressed out and hair and makeupstarts doing my hair and makeup, and
they put so much like smoky darkeyes, big glossy lips, lots of
contrue. They did my hair likethey teased it and made it huge.
And I did tell them once.I said, by the way, here's
how I looked at the audition.I showed them a photo. I was
like, pigtails, like no makeup, Like yeah, but you're you're like

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the star, You're the girl.He pulls out of the crowd, going
ry. Que Glycias gets there,they're ready to shoot. They bring me
to set and the producers are like, who is this? Like a victorious
secret model? What did you guysdo to her? They sent me back
to my trailer, and since theyonly had one hour, they picked a
girl from the extras and they gaveher my part. I lost that commercial.

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I went home. I got paidfor the day that commercial came on
so much. I probably would havemade like sixty grand off a bit easily.
And I lost. You lost?What's that commercial? Wasn't it?
They made the extra the principle becausethey didn't have time to take my makeup
down. God Enrique was there forone hour. They needed to shoot it.
As soon as he got there,and as soon as they brought me

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to set, they were like lookingat her and makeup, like, what
did you do to the girl wecast? This isn't the girl we cast.
And I realized, then I doneed to speak up more. I
do need to speak up. Andnow I'm so crazy about it. Like
when I show up to set,I'm like, here's a picture of me,
Here's how I look, here's myaudition's take, like, this is

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what I look like. And Imake sure that they asked the client before
they start putting makeup on me,because me with a lot of makeup on
is transformative. I look like adifferent person. Anyr agents were nuts.
It was oh my goodness, itwas my agents wanted they wanted to go
after the makeup artists. But youknow, it's I should have spoken.

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It was just a combination of thingsthat went the wrong way. And and
maybe that girl who got that commercial, you know, maybe it was her
time and she needed it more thanme. That's the only way I can
really justify making sense of what happened. But well, you're a better person
than I am. I would nevereat to Redo's again. Probably after that,

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Well, yeah, I don't needto reados anyways, but now that
person is j Low. That wasthe extent. Yeah, No, I
mean I don't know who it was. It was an extra. It was
her lucky day. Well, Ithink we all have those moments where we're
like, it just comes so closeto things. And national commercial is a

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big deal, by the way,it's youird. I don't think you make
the same money to make sixty grandoff of commercial nowadays. I've heard it
changed a lot. Even I thinkI booked a commercial a couple of years
ago. I don't make close.I think I made like ten grand off
of it. That was it.Yeah, I think the average now should
be around thirteen because that's usually thecycle of it running. You get about

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thirteen and then and then it renewsin cycles of like four grand. But
I think it's like thirteen to twenty, just depends. Did you ever grow
up for like those big hosting Likedo you ever see like those jobs like
the flow girl or the spokesperson.I didn't, but one of my friends

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had booked the Lincoln Mercury Girl andit was a huge paycheck. I mean
it was it was crazy. Itreally launched her career, so I was
so happy for her. But yeah, I never went out for a spokesperson
for a brand, you know,because I was just at a coffee shop

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with a friend and he was comparingNew York to LA and he said,
I like LA better because it's NewYork's too busy, And I said,
well, the difference is everybody inLA. They're almost like everybody in this
coffee shop, like versus New York, there's like a work ethic. People
have normal jobs. But LA,it's like we're all like delusional. You

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need that delusion a little bit toeven have a shot in LA because people
are crazy, Like the goals theyhave here are just ridiculous, but once
you attain them, it kind ofit's all for not know. Everything's kind
of swept aside, Like people youthink are crazy coming up and then they
achieve it. They're like, oh, I guess it's it happened. Yeah,

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we've all seen it happen, soyou're like, it's it happened,
so why won't it happen to me? Yeah. I did the show a
few days ago at this Mexican comedyclub and there was a comedian there.
I'm want to say his name,but he's twenty six and he's huge in
Instagram and he just sold it outlike they were over sold. And this

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kid's walking around bulling out and he'stwenty six, and I'm thinking he's like,
he's just he's such a sweet kidbecause he doesn't know anything difference,
but he's like, oh, yeah, you know, this is what he
must be, like, this iswhat it's like show business, because he
just blew up so fast, likewithin two years and is selling out a
club like or any self like everwherehe goes. And you just think,

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like, maybe, I guess it'spossible, like people can just reach another
level of I've start him out herein LA that's well, when they reached
the stardom fast, I think there'sstill experience to be gained. And the
difference between him today and him nextyear, two years from now, five
years from now, he's going togrow if he stays relevant, which that's

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a whole other thing. How doyou you know a lot of these people
make it, but they have ahard time maintaining relevancy. Have you seen
people fall from grace? I thinkI mean not people that I personally know,
but I know people that you knowhave stepped aside and decided, hey,

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wait, this isn't for me.I had so many ford mean article
recently on Yasmin belief for that girl. Yes, yeah, and I guess
they watch, yeah, they watch. Well, my friend knew her because
I guess his kid and her kidwent to the same school. And he

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was like, she's like totally unrecognizable, And I was like, you know
what she's also like in her fortiesand stuff, like what do you expect
you think she's going to look likethat her entire life? Like who knows
what she was, But I guessshe had a big coke problem too,
So well that always ages you.But people age, it's it's natural.
These women on Baywatch are in theirfifties. It's okay. And I think

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it's really hard the pressure on thesewomen to stay at their status of what
they look like in their twenties.That's unrealistic and it's not fair. I
do think there's people changing that rightnow. But but for a long time,
it was like you weren't allowed togrow old in Hollywood. See you

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fell from grace or you went intohiding, and then you know, paparazzi
get the worst photo of you andthey're like then and now and isn't double
standard because I feel like guys haveit easier than girls because there are so
many I mean, look, Isee so many movies with guys and dudes

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who are like in their seventies andtheir love interests is like twenty years younger
than them, or fifties with twentyyears, Like really, seriously, I
mean, I know it's a guything, but I think it's more unfair
for women. Like what's your perspective? I totally agree, but I think
that's I think we're moving away fromthat. But like in the last decade,

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even the men, I think peoplewere being really mean to, like
Brendan Frasier, or if someone gainedweight or let people live their life.
People are going to gain waight,They're gonna lose weight, They're gonna go
through hard things. They may bebattling addictions. People are gonna get wrinkles,
they're gonna lose their hair, they'regonna it's just life. Why can't

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we just embrace it because it's gonnahappen to everyone. Well, there's nothing
better than the comeback story, thoughin Hollywood, when someone comes back.
When Tribolta came back, or MichaelKeaton. I mean those are all guys,
but I think when you fall oreven who you just mentioned, you
love the Brenda Pracher, Like hewon an oscar right and people were rooting

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for this guy forever whenever I sawhim, like because there's a time he
can just show up and use allfat and stuff giving interviews. They're like,
oh, this poor guy looks beaten. I think I get a horrible
divorce and everything health problems. Letthe guy have health problems. Geez,
people are mean. I think it'seasier to criticize other people and point out

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their flaws and have to look inthe mirror and be like, whoa,
I'm not I'm not really being agood person right now, or look at
your own flaws and work on them. And we got to shift that.
Well, it's impossible now because ofthe Internet all these YouTube warriors, when
like keyboard warriors is saying stuff,does that affect I guess? I mean

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you're an Instagram hiatus right now?I am was that spurred by I'm let
me tell me why. Yeah.I felt like I was under a lot
of pressure all the time to interactwith people, you know, comment on
if I didn't comment on someone thatI know's posts, they would text me

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and be like, Hey, iseverything okay? Just checking in on you.
I saw that you saw my post, but you didn't say anything.
I'm like, oh my gosh.It might have scrolled by while I was
changing a channel or doing something elseand I didn't even see it, because
you know, they're like scroll ifyou don't stop them. And I just
thought, oh, I don't likethe way this makes me feel. It
makes me feel like I owe somethingto someone. And I also didn't like

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not having control of the energy that'scoming at me. And right now I'm
trying to like shift a few thingsin my life, and so I needed
to clear myself and have less peopletalk happening that I don't even know about,
because I really believe that your wordscarry power, and so if you're
saying words that are negative or positive, even towards another person, it's affecting

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that person. And so sure enough, I'm on a social media fast and
now all these wonderful things are happeningin my life, and I think it's
because I've stopped a lot of negativechatter or or just chatter alone that was
coming at me through social media.Good for you, because I don't I

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don't know how I can ever getoff of it. I feel like it's
it's important like what I do,Like I've got to be constantly putting myself
out there and I'm not even aninfluencer yet I feel like this pressure all
the time, like you've got tobe posting and you got to be Even
clubs like they're messaging me, hey, did you promote the show? We
have X amount of tickets sold forthis show, And it's like you got

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to put it out there and thenother people see you on other shows say
they book you. So it's likeit's like it's a machine that never stops.
It absolutely is and everyone is aslave to it, and that is
not going away and it's not goingto be reverting. So I think we
just on need to set healthy boundarieswith it and accept it for what it
is. It's a page for promotion. If you are taking it personally seriously

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and your emotions are involved, it'sgoing to be a hard road. So
I think that you know, evenin high school, they should have like
online social media training, like Okay, this is a way to promote yourself
or your business. This is notwhere you go to get likes and find

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friends and have emotional support because andnot to say there aren't coaches on there
that do offer emotional support and thatthere aren't positive messaging on there. It's
just it's hard. It's hard todifferentiate and it's hard to not go down
the rabbit hole. Once the algorithmpicks it up, it doesn't weed out
bad from good. It just throwsit all at you. Yeah, I

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think we're all slaves to an algorithm. That's the most insane thing of it.
It's just it is you're fighting somethingwhich is kind of abstract and there's
no solution, and that algorithm canalso make you a star as well.
It's crazy how the flip the switchcan be flipped so quickly. And I

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wonder, like, would you getwould you go into this business if you
were twenty years old today knowing theI guess it wouldn't be possible. I'd
be able to understand, but Iwould. I see, I would be
very timid going to this business ifit was today, or maybe i'd be
encouraged. It may be the opposite. Yeah, I don't know, you
No, I can't. I can'treally put myself there. This business is

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I've done this business longer than Ihaven't. At this point, I've been
you know, I started doing commercialsright like my senior year of high school.
So I've been doing this now.I've been SAgs since nineteen ninety eight.
Sad, sag. Oh, sad, it's sad. No, that's

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sad. I've been SAG since nineteenninety eight, which is a heck of
a long time. So it's it'sall I know. I do love the
industry, but man, has itgone through changes. It's not what it
was back. It's not what itwas five years ago, it's not what
it was totally different from ten yearsago. Yeah, And the thing is,

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it just constantly evolves and changes.Like not to be morbid, but
I was just reading about Carl Weatherswho passed away, the guy from Oraqi,
you know, that black dude,and like I was such an icon
of like of all these movies andTV shows growing up, and then he's
gone, but like the business keepskeeps moving on without him, you know,

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And You're like, that's and Ilook at all like the comedy stars
or whatever that I kind of lookedup to when I was in my you
know, fourteen fiftie you know,like David Spade or like Adam Sandler and
stuff, And these guys are pushingsixteen now right, which is kind of
crazy that I think, like there'sa whole new crop of people coming up
right, Oh, and they wantpeople. They don't know who these guys

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are. They don't know who AdamSandler is, they don't know who David
Spade is. Yeah, so it'slike it's almost like it's so niche now
these like social media, like youraudience is niche, Like there are people,
millions of fans, but they caterto a very cecific demographic. When
we were coming up, it wasjust a wide net. You know.

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Now you got to think, well, who's my niche? You know,
who's your niche? Who Doshasia appealto? Yeah, I think it would
be women my age moms and hornyteenagers were into like milk porners. You
have to do it right, youcan't help yourself, No, I think

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I do. It's for the momswho are yeah, fighting like this aging
thing too. I think I'd liketo be an advocate for like it's okay,
we're still hip, We're still cool, we're just older. Well,
let me go back to what Iwas saying because I have to finished this.
So do you can know my lotby like younger dudes who are like,

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you know, like older women?Uh? I I have, Yes,
I have. How come it's notlike that for guys because I feel
like in less like, well,maybe it is, let's talk, you
have like a lot of money,but I feel like girls know what,
Yeah, if you're an older dudegetting hit on by a younger girl,

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chances are it's because you have alot of money. That's about it.
But it's not the same if you'rea female. I feel like some guys
are just in an older women.Perhaps I don't know that mentality or that
world, but I can say thathas happened to me with my wedding ring
on. I'm like, are youwhat is it going on? I was,

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I've been I've been confused, butI guess it's a thing. You're
right, Well, I've written abook about it, so I was gonna
plug my book about not getting toobook incoming book now. I was just
curious because I just feel like Idon't want to like switch topics to here,

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but like there's so many like sexualdeviations. Oh you know, you
live in Texas. It's a differentworld out here, it is. And
so I was going to say,the times that that's happened to me has
been within minutes of landing in LosAngeles, within minutes really, at the
cart in the shuttle, then atthe car rental place. So much so

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that I thought, am I ona hidden camera show? What is going
on? Why is the guy?Why are these like what? So confused?
Because in Texas, especially where Ilive, I live in a very
family oriented part of Texas. Idon't get hit on really say, like,

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guys are just animals. In general, LA is its own beast?
Is it La or humanity? Ithink there's certain cities where the energy is
different and it's like everyone wants tobe single and be in this like hookup
scene, like I feel it inMiami and La equally. Sometimes I'll watch

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the open Mics or something where likenew comics, you know, and I'll
see these guys mostly it's dudes,and they've it's already spent their lives in
these very respectable professions like their doctorsor lawyers, and comedy is so raw,
especially when you're starting out you reallydon't know how to so you just
like for some reason, people justthink they can say whatever they want on

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stage, like they watch too muchBill Byrd. They'm like, Oh,
I'm just gonna talk about how Ireally feel, and they're saying the most
fucked up, like perverted things onstage like these like lawyers and doctors trying
to do comedy. I'm thinking,man, this is your inner monologue,
Like this is what you keep insideof you all this time, Like you
just realize everybody is like a freakof nature. You know what I'm saying.

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It's like he ant tracks it andthe people who don't vibe with it
usually leave. See. I justfeel like that's everywhere. I don't think
it's just I don't think you canseparate it by the state. I think
it's I think so much stronger itis. You can feel it, trust
me. It's when I land inLA. There's something different, and I'm

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super sensitive to it now because Ilive in Texas where it's not that way.
It's a different electricity in the air. So there you have it.
If you want to come to LAand be a sexual deviate, come to
Los Angeles. We will welcome you. With open arms. It comes to

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that's how it goes over there.I think Miley Cyrus wrote a song about
it, didn't she. Well,I mean, Jesus, look at I'll
talk about the new stuff. ButI don't know if you've follow that Vince
McMahon stuff from WWE. Yeah,we got the text messages, so basically

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you don't know. I guess therewas somebody he hired and he was hooking
up with her and he was havingthreesomes with her, but like he was
sending her the most sexually explicit textmessages and it was like ridiculous, and
he actually resigned from the board andeverything. But I just think the truth
catches up with you. All thisstuff catches up. People need to be

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careful. Women are speaking now andeven if they were in on it back
then, they're like, don't throwyou under the bus. At this point,
I think people need to be carefulwith that stuff. But I don't
think it's a male female thing.I think I'm sure there are female CEOs,
you know, gorgeous. You know, I think power, you know

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that Machiaveling Coote. Power corrupts perhapsabsolutely. I feel like when people feel
like they can get away with stuff, they go ape shit. So now
I wonder if if I had thatpower, would I be like that?
I don't know. I can't speakto it because I've never experienced that,
right, hopefully, I know Iwouldn't. I know for a fact,
I wouldn't. How can you saythat? Because I have a moral compass,

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and so I put that first inmy life. There's no way I
just lay my head down at nightand be like, I feel good about
everything I did today. See,but if you believe the universe is total
anarchy and chaos, then there's norules to it. That's where I'm coming
from. Yeah, we have adifferent moral I don't know. I feel

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like you're you have good morals.I don't. I have good morals.
But but my, my, myuniverse has been flipped upside down. But
there was a Stephen Hawkings quote thatreally resonated with men. He goes,
the universe is just a matter oflike physics. I'm paraphraising here, and
that made more sense to me becauseI just see so many atrocities and think,

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I'm you know, it's just theworld is so messed up. I'm
sorry it is. It's it islike Lord of the rings or the matrix.
There is a constant battle of eviland good that is existing in the
matrix quantum world around us at anygiven time, and we're super susceptible to
both. And so you if youare living consciously and you're making a choice

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every day to be in the highwayof good, then you will detour from
the bad. But if you're notmaking that conscious choice to be good,
you may fall onto the bad trackand not even know that you're in it.
So for me, it's a choiceI make every day. But I
think that like all of those scifi you know, even like the Dark

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Crystal, all of that stuff appliesto my life. I feel like at
any given time, in a worldthat we cannot see, there is a
battle of evil and good, andwe are subject to being drawn into one
side. And I think if you'renot making the choice of being on one

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you will automatically be drawn to thedark. Because it's enticing, it's it's
it's enticing on a physical level toso many people. You know, that
life seems more fun than a goodthan like a wholesome life of you know,
homesteading, farming, like I want, I don't I don't know.
I don't know if I can.I used to believe in good and bad.

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Now I just think everything just islike even because I deal with a
lot of bad people in comedy,we just can't stand like bookers and stuff.
And I'm just like, that's justthe way it is. Like there
are just people who just are wretchedindividuals and you have to deal with them.
And I wish, I wish therewas a thing like, if you're
just a virtuous person, then everything'sgoing to work out. But hey,

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I didn't say if you're a virtuousperson everything's going to work out. I
think that everything will work out withinyou as far as is peace, But
it doesn't mean you're not going tocome face to face with darkness or people
that are mean or awful people.That's part of this existence on earth.
We are going to come across thosepeople. But the way, the choice

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that we make and the way thatwe react is everything. Yeah. No,
I've heard that many times. Iguess I just struggle with that.
Still you're in it. You're likein the chaos. I mean, I'm
in the deniminiquity here in Los Angeles, and you're in the night world and

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in the night world, even moredark creatures come out. That's like,
you know, you just got tolearn to react and how to deal with
it. Yeah, I don't knowif I'll ever learn. I just see
too much and there's too much jealousyand avarice and green just you're just surrounded

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by it all the time. Iguess, I don't know. I mean,
that's why breaking water right now.This is you got to like figure
out the bright spots of the day, right You have to look for the
good and you have to make aconscious choice. It's active. It's not
if you're not actively choosing good lightand peace. It's not just coming to

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you. You. It's a crazytime right now. You have to look
for it and choose it and walktowards it and block out the negativity,
block out the things that don't bringyour joy and the people that are challenging
you. That's a great Shasia,that's a great that's a great message,
and on everybody, just don't worry, choose your light and find peace and

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join Shasi as Carlton, Texas andeverything's going to be okay. Please,
yes, thank you, Shasi.A good talking to you as always.
Do you want to plug anything.I love a good drink tea, drink
tea. Uh go go see myshows and buy my books and Ghazia,

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good talking to you. Ah,have fun being pretty cooking stuff, all
right, all right,