Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse - Movie Review

the sequel to one of the best Spider-Man movies of all time is here! join the gang as we discuss Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse

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Well everyone, and welcome to theshow tonight. We're talking about Spider Man

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Spider Verse two Across the Spider Verse. Tonight we got our very own TV's
Casey. That's right, my veryown spider Sona this evening. Yeah,
and I'm your host back here,guys. Spider Verse to Electric Google.
My guys. The first one bleweveryone's mind with its animation, it's storytelling,
and some people saying it's one oftheir favorite Spider Man movies hands down,

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period now one of the best comicbook movies ever made. Bro absolutely,
and I would contest that in myopinion, this was better than the
first one. I like it alot better than any other Spider Man movie,
hands down. But before we getto farm Hendry's olse, Casey,
what is this one? Across theSpider Verse? About about a year and
a few months after the end ofthe previous movie, Miles Morales is doing

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his Spider Man thing, and he'strying to juggle both lives. Can he
be there for his parents and hisfamily, for his friends, but can
he be Spider Man all the timeat the same time. It's a delicate
balancing act. Any superhero with thesecret identity, so as he, of
course battles a new enemy, avillain of the week, or so we

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think the spot a villain of hisown creation, who is also in that
collider accident in the first film.And it's a It becomes a little bit
of a wild goose chase. Whetherhe tries to find himself inside an army
of Spider People. Is he boundto the Canada events of his universe?

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You know? Can he withstand betrayalfrom previous Spider People who seem similarly bound
to this web of life and destiny? Can he escape from Spider Man twenty
ninety nine, the man tasked withgoverning the Spider Verse itself? And can
he even conquer himself in a paralleluniverse where there never was a Spider Man.

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So much going on in this movie, somebody, new characters, so
much great stuff. I gotta takethis mask off and reveal my secret identity.
It's too much. How long isthat? How long we'll keep it
up, We'll stay in We'll stayin the spirit of things. Oh my
god, he's committed. Absolutely.I don't know how Spider Man rolls up

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his actual mask, but boy wasthat uncomfortable. Bro And then imaginely he
drinks coffee out of it. Hedid you making beef patties? Like,
well, he drinks, he drinks. He can drink the coffee through the
mask. That's the nice thing aboutthis material. It's very breathable, so
good, Oh my god. Butyeah, no, uh, it's he
There's a lot for our characters todeal with in this movie. And and

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one of the coolest things is itactually starts out with a cold open with
Spider gwenn Um. She's you know, she's doing her own web slinging thing,
and she runs a foul of amisplaced Renaissance era vulture um and teams
up with Jesse Drew, a Spiderwoman from another universe who's pregnant and riding

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a motorcycle and kicking ass, andof course Spider Man twenty ninety nine,
who would become one of the movie'ssecondary antagonists. But it brings all of
our characters to a very interesting placefrom the last movie, at least the
main three. The other three havesort of taken a sideline. Gwen is
having a lot of issues, youknow, coming to grips with having to

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tell her dad who she is,and you know, a lot of people
have picked up on this as asort of coming out or trans allegory,
which I think is pretty cool.They leave it open enough for a lot
of interpretation of her character, whichI like. We find Peter b is
in the throes of starting a familyand you know, very much committed to

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this this group of Spider people,the Spider Society, but still carrying his
daughter in an out of dangerous situationsand miles of course, trying to juggle
the double life. There's still there'sa lot, you know, everything,
It's bigger, everything's bigger. Theanimation is taken up to the next level,

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with characters like Spiderpunk animated in likeeight different speeds to completely throw people
as visuals off, you know,all the intricate little details that go into
something like Spider Man India's universe.I mean, even all the little effects
with the spot looking like he stillhas some of those animation gridlines, like

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you know, like story he looksstill storyboarded even when he's fully animated on
screen. There's there's so I mean, we could talk about the visual of
this movie for for so so long, but everything comes together in this movie
in a nice little package. Umyou know, the characters have set goals,
there's conflict, there's resolutions, andyet it still manages to end on

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a cliffhan and be a part oneof two for a movie that comes out
in what nine months? Yeah,Beyond Beyond the Spider Verse. And that
was the thing surprised to everyone becauseI know when I saw that, I
was shocked. I was like,wait part one because as the movie is,
uh, sort of the ending,You're like, wait a minute,
there's so much happening here. There'sno way you're gonna wrap that. Okay,

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you're not wrapping it up. It'sjust because because you can kind of
feel the movie was coming to somesort of climax that the music was swelling,
it was cutting in and out ofevery single storyline that we were having,
that the animation was ramping up,the stakes were ramping up, and
then it's like boom, see youin Beyond the Spider Verse. I mean,
in case like you s the animationalone in this movie. I mean,

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I think the industry movie industry asa whole needs to take notice of
this movie. I mean, likethe acting top nod to animation. It
is absolutely insane. It's as ifthe studio was just like, hey animators,
hey, creatives, go yeah,go crazy. We can't tell you
what. I don't know how tolike convey to you what you need to
do for this movie. But doeverything we need to do, every possible

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thing, every possible comic animation style, animation trick in this one movie.
Get it done, and they doit even live action elements like some who
framed Roger Rabbit thing absolutely insane.And the story, dude, I mean,
like the movie nothing without a reallygood story and this movie has that.

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I mean I saw it twice intheaters. Um, once on like
a like a like a pre openingnight, so like like a Wednesday night
before it even Thursday, and anotherwith family who really enjoyed the movie.
I'm shooting for my third viewing thisweekend. It's like, oh, what's
coming out the Flash Now, I'lljust see Spider Man again? Fuck them

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in incredible Uh And if we havea time after, if you want to
talk whether you did do but umye yeah man, I mean I have
so many That's that's what I loveabout in the residential nerd. I have
so many people who are just like, hey, have you seen it?
Can you come see with me likenobody else. They look to us.
They have questions. Welcome to myweb. You have questions about the Spider

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Man, dude. There were somany questions, and I think one of
the biggest ones you can answer too, and a lot of people had casey
was who is Miguel O'Hara. SoMiguel O'Hara is the Spider Man of the
future, or rather the future ofwhat nineteen ninety four Marvel Comics thought twenty
ninety nine would be. The interestingthing about Miguel is that he did not

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get his powers from a spider bite, which you would think, Okay,
this is part of the Spider Manlore, like what are these classic cannon
events, right? You know,you get the bite, maybe you get
the dead girlfriend, you get thepolice officer friend who gets shot. You
know. It's still very touch andgo. We don't know how true it
actually is, but it's something thatMiguel certainly believes. I would argue Miguel

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is very much an anomaly. He'svery different from your classic Spider Man,
and that's by design. So Ibelieve he was created by Peter David and
Rick Leonardi. In ninety four,they launched a whole line of twenty ninety
nine books, but this was prettymuch the flagship. Miguel is a scientist
who works for a company called Alcamax, and this is a world that is

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so deeply entrenched in the future.There's no superheroes about anymore. And it's
not that life isn't very interesting,but there's a certain crave for a better
time, for a golden age ofsuperheroes. And he's put himself to the
task of essentially recreating a superhero fora new age. And his company has

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got him under the gun. Youknow, he's working hard, he's put
his notes to the grindstone. He'sgot a fiance, he's juggling. You
know, this guy's got a shiptogether. Career scientist, handsome. You
know, he's got a partner.Like it's all he's he's supposed to be
everything that sort of Peter Parker isnot. And they're testing this new like

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gene splicing machine on prisoners and stuffwho volunteered for this and he and Miguel's
like, you know what, thisisn't cool. I'm not really down with
the exploitation of the you know,the system, man, I'm not here
for it. And he's considering quitting, but his boss drugs him, throws

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him into the machine, and spliceshim with spider DNA, so no bite.
But his genetics are all scrambled up, and he's got a lot of
cool things, and he's missing afew things that Spider Man have. So
for one, he doesn't stick towalls the same way. He's got talents
on the end of his fingers,just like in the movie. He does

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not have a Spider Sense, sohe doesn't have this sort of preternatural day
you're where he can feel it coming. But he does have extremely enhanced senses,
which is why when you see himin this movie he's in the dark,
he keeps his face covered. Youknow, he always seems kind of
bothered by, you know, aloud noise or you know, something bright.

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You know, his his It's likehow they describe it in the MCU
with you know, the Tom HollandPeter is that his senses are dialed up
to eleven um, even though heclearly has Spider Sense in those movies,
Mcguild's not um. And most thatthose details from the comics just came through
the movie because as you were listeningto those off I was like, oh,
yeah, that's that's exactly what Isaw. They don't explain it.

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They don't, they don't. Theydon't give Spider Man twenty nine the old
let's do this one last time,you know, comic book flip intro.
You know, they give him.They give you as much as you need
to know why he's doing what he'sdoing. Um. You know, you
also get little snippets of he's injectingyou know, a little serum into his
arm, which kind of leans intothe whole. His jeans are unstable,

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he probably needs some kind of supplement. Um. And of course there's the
biggest thing about him is that hehas fangs and a venomous bite. Um,
yeah, what's that about? BecauseGwen alluded to him being sort of
a vampire, Like, yeah,I think the vampire thing is just a
joke to make him look you know, scarier in the comics. It's just
like, spiders can bite people andsome of them are poisonous, and he's

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genetically part spider, so this isone of the things he has. He
also has he also has organic webbingin the movie. They make it,
you know, part of his suit. You know, he's got like energy
webs, which is visually much moreinteresting. But um, they come out
of his body in the comics.So no shooters, no web shooters for
him. It's all it's all organic. He's he's really he's more man than

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Spider. I know. He doesnot he does not have him. Miguel
Tingle if you're if you've been onTwitter and Tumblr lately, there's a lot
of Tingle for this man. Tellyou, I tell you for mcguil.
Everybody across all across their Spider.Yeah, and I mean I can go

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into Jessica Drew two real quick ifyou want another Spider character who is very
much an anomaly. Um got herpowers originally, uh the you know the
high evolutionary from Guardians of the Galaxythree. Yeah, so imagine he took
a Spider and made it into ahuman woman. Right, Yeah, it's

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weird. It's pretty weird. Butthen they're like, oh, no,
she's just you know, her fatheror her mother experimented on her while she
was in utero with Spider DNA,and then it gets all mixed up in
MESSI she's got like fake memories.Was she always a hydra agent? Like
who knows the history of Jessica Drewin the main universe of comics is a

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hot mess um but again not aspider bite on whatever level or whatever origin
you subscribe to, or maybe atthis time of which I'm not sure,
it's genetic experimentation. She's got pheromonepowers and she could shoot venom blasts out
of her hands, and she canfly. She can just fly. What
was it's sick? Yeah, shecould just fly. It's like no problem.

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Or maybe she could she has likeyou know, the the web armpits
where she can glide, but I'mpretty sure she can fly. Yeah,
that's another thing. The pregnant versionhere comes from a run about maybe eight
or nine years ago where she wasactually fighting crime while pregnant, which was
a pretty interesting take on the character. And you think like, oh,

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she's putting the baby in danger,and it's like, dude, that baby
could probably kick through concrete, likeyou know, if a regular thug is
going to try and punch this womanin the stomach, like they'll probably break
their hand. Like it's just youknow, it's just because there's a lot
of people who aren't familiar with hercharacter were just like, wait a minute,
why is there there's a prettiant Spiderlady. Isn't it dangerous? Because

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you know, everybody like they don'tknow any of this stuff. I mean
I didn't know this either, Soit's just like the pregnant version. That's
so such an interesting version of herto do, because when I googled her,
I was like, wait a minute, there's like different versions. So,
yes, we're doing this. Wantto make it interesting? Yeah,
do more the family aspect because you'vegot Peter who has his baby. You
got Her who has a baby insideher. I don't know, they're more

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family, I guess, so youknow. And again so again total anomaly
there. I mean maybe they've rewrittenher history to be something totally unique,
which is very possible. I mean, I've never seen the web shoot out
of the fingers before. That's apretty cool trick. Yeah, I think
it's a pretty interesting look. They'vereally they really went out of their way
to make all these Spider people visuallyand like power wise very distinct. Um,

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I'm a I'm a big, bigfan dude. Like, in a
movie with so many Spider people,spider persons, they all have their unique
individualities and you can kind of grabonto one like you see people now who
have different fan bases from what they'veseen the movie, Like a lot of
people who didn't know about mcguil,like, Okay, it's my favorite one.
I'm Cole's playing him for the nextcomic con, you know, or

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like, you know, there's somepeople who were growing up now for the
younger general reason who just got onto Gwen to ghost by They're like,
oh wow, that I didn't knowshe existed. This is awesome. A
lot of people also forget her codenameis Ghost Spider Spider, Yeah, is
there a reason why it's Ghost Spider. So originally I guess the origins of

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Spider Gwen were they were throwing GwenStacy on all of these covers, right
like it would be like, oh, it's a Gwen Stacy variant. Here's
Gwen Stacy as Captain America and GwenStacy as the Hulk and Iron Gwen,
Oh, it's the Genders. Andthen they did Gwen Stacy as Yeah,
then they did Gwen Stacy as SpiderMan, and the idea kind of took

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traction and they did a little storyabout her own universe and they wrapped it
into the actual Spider Verse comic andthey just made it a thing. Um,
you know, it's also where yougot stuff like Gwennpool From, who's
a fairly popular character to a lotof people, you know reading the Marvel
now. But yeah, so thecostume was great, the book took off.

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People really liked the style, andyeah, wait, what was your
question? I lost myself in aramble and tangent like why she's called ghost
Oh yeah, so I think theyjust didn't want to call her Spider Woman
or but you can't call her SpiderGwen in universe because she has a secret
identity. In the first movie,she describes herself as Spider Woman, right,

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but then in the comics her codename is Ghost Spider, presumably because
Jessica Drew as Spider Woman had thatbook at the time, and when they
were going to relaunch Spider Gwen,they thought, well, we can't keep
just calling her volume Spider Gwenn.We need some brand recognition, so they
called her ghosts Spider, which ispretty rad. But also it belonged to

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a parallel universe version of Spider Manwho would lure other Spider Man into his
universe and kill them so he couldbecome more powerful, like like Jets the
one. Yes. Yes. Fora while in Marvel comics there was this
weird they've they've done it at leasttwice where if you kill a parallel universe

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version of yourself you get stronger,just like Jet Lee's the one, which
I'm not ready. Yeah, Sothis Spider Man, he ended up killing
so many versions of himself. Hewas like Superman for a hot minute,

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and then you know, he eventuallybecame like a ghostwriter. Like he's all
white and he's got a like ablue flame white skull. The costume is
the costume is in the PS thePlace station game, but I think they
renamed it as Spirit Spider. Youcan look that up. I don't know
if you want to pop that onthe people. That's what that is.
That's in the comics. He wascalled Ghost Spider's insane too, and then

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they had Spider Gwen take the name. So it was good, incredible stuff,
absolutely incredible stuff, man. Yeah. Yeah, and uh and it
was interesting too. He said,do they have like a like a like
a Disney Junior type show with likethe three three Spider people got Peter Miles
and uh Gwenn and kids love itlike my knees is go crazy, uh

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for it, And I'm like,who's your favorite character. She's like Ghost
Spider. Like ghost Spider, youmean Spider Grin. She's like, no,
it's Ghost Spider uncle, don't theydon't. They also give Miles a
different name in that show. Yeah, yeah, I forget his name,
but yeah, it's it's not Miles. Um, I remember, forget what
it is and I think Ultimate SpiderMan. They called him Spy hyphen d

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like spi D. It's it's notthat, ye what it is, Yeah,
but it's um. It's like hecan't have two people called or is
it kid Arachnid or spin I thinkit's spin in Spidy and his amazing friends.
Yeah. You know that's the wholething about legacy characters. You know,
you either have him replaced them sothey can just carry on the name.

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So Miles can be Spider Man becausehe's the only Spider Man, which
makes sense, especially in the contextof this movie. In his universe he's
the only Spider Man. But ina show where he co exists with Peter
or in the comics where he coexists with Peter, you know, it's
always like, is he Spider Man. Is he Spider Man two? Is
he just Miles Morales? Is hethe Black Spider Man? Not because of

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his skin but because of the colorof his suit? You know it's you
gotta be careful, you know,you gotta be I love how in the
live action you know that you hadJimmy Fox's electro. He was just like,
man, like, You're like,you live in New York, you
help poor people. I thought,how thought you're applying. Oh, I'm
so sorry. He's like, oh, it's party Black Spider unea. But

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uh, speaking of all these othercharacters, man, I mean this movie
has so many Spider People, andwe have like some other villains too.
Like it starts off with like aDa Vinci version of The Vulture, which
was pretty sweet and has Green's fightingand he's, well, you kind of
been out of paper. I wouldn'tshoot these missiles and fire and he's destroyed
what is he destroying? The Museumof Modern Arts? So it's like this

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is an art and it's like,well, we're talking. We're talking about
it, aren't we. Just thecommentary it's so good, dude, from
start to finish, the story,the jokes, the quips, the stakes.
I mean, you feel so muchin this movie. Um like just
like the drama the family aspect,and I've seen so many families who love
like the parents. And you seesome older people, you know in our

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parents generation, who are just likeoh yeah, like you know that that
mothers me, that dad's me.You know, I have my friends who
are Puerto Rican and have kids,and then oh yeah, like that mother
is me, Like that's exactly howI am. And I had the fortunes
of of seeing for the first timein New York. So all the New
York is ms played like crazy whenhe when he did that bit where she's

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like, hey, you think youthink Spider Man's Puerto Rican and Miles is
like, no, I think he'sDominican. People were hollering crazy when she
snapped her fingers and it was aPuerto Rican flag, like yeah, yeah,
it was crazy. In the momentwhere he's sitting in the school's office
and he's talking about and she's saying, how oh you want to go to

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print like New Jersey's too far.New Jersey's too far. People were dying,
it's my theater, you know,like when they splashed like like Brooklyn
across the screen people were like,if you guys are from New York,
I mean it's just it just playsdifferent. I mean the New York audience
was absolutely insane. It made itso much better, absolutely, like so

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much better. Especial people were mumbattanyeah, yeah, the Universe of Manhattan
like dude, like that was sosick. You know, here's traffic,
traffic over here, traffic. Allthe British stars now yo, that killed
absolutely just people who knew like laughthe heart. You either laughed at that

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or you stay quiet. And peoplein certain theaters you know like uh it
killed or some people were really laughing. But it was so funny. Um.
And then that character was awesome too, like he was his own like
yeah, intelligent, amazing, andhe's like, oh I love how being
Spider Man it's so easy. Solike every Peters like I was so hard.

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Miles was like, dang, Igotta juggle stuff. And he's like,
oh yeah, this is awesome.I just do this, do that.
I look really good. I'm puttingthe hair pods like that don't work
out too much because I don't wantto get too Bollywood star. He's just
like incredibly handsome with that beautiful hairthat they have. It was absolutely awesome.
I was just like, yo,that that's so freaking dope, just
effortlessly, just having fun while Milesand Peter are just struggling to be spider

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people. Um but yeah, man, like I want to really hand it
to the creators, who to therights produces, directors. I mean,
they knew what they were. Imean, it's such an incredible movies.
Movie was a bag of cats.It was just like snakes in a little
you know, like bad the handleon it. Don't you made a bag
of spiders back. That's terrifying,A bag of bag of absolutely you know

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they're supposed to There was supposed tobe some sort of like gigantic spider somewhere
in the movie, but they tickit out because like, oh yeah,
people have a rack in neophobia,so let's let's not let's not use that.
Let's not freak him out too much. Yeah, let's also not do
the wild bold wist thing. Let'soh that that would be Superman movie where
he didn't fly and there's a giantspider. And Kevin Smith was like,

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I can't believe somebody wanted to makethat. Um and yeah, and then
he did. But Casey, whatwas one of your your favorite aspects about
the movie? Oh, I mean, I probably so many, it's really
tough to count. I mean,there's not a dull moment in the movie.
Even where that it slows down alittle bit to have Miles interact with

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his parents, it leads in withthis like great shot of him. I
mean, it's got the whole montageof him with the cakes. But the
scene where he gets into his apartmentbuilding and he's getting changed into his normal
clothes and he shoots up the staircase. It's just stuff like that that really

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reminds me like, this is doingstuff that a live action film never could.
You're not going to have that sortof slow pan up montage and then
a sling shot through the staircase witha live action Spider Man, Like,
You're just not going to see stufflike that. I love the whole idea
of turning a joke villain into aserious threat. That's a number one trope

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in my book for me. Allthe stuff they do with the spot in
this movie where it's like you're avillain of the week, Like they're they're
pointing out all this tropy nonsense youknow, even the discussion about cannon events
and what have you. It's like, it's just this is coming right out
of a comic book reader's mouth.You know. The whole angle with with
Miguel and everything, you know,is he's just echoing criticisms of Miles Morales

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from people who didn't want to readabout him when he first debuted. You
know, you don't belong. Youknow, you're not you're not a real
Spider Man, like all that stuff, you know, presumably without all the
racist connotation that came from a lotof terrible white comic book fans. But
I'll leave that, you know,to the side. Um, but I
do love how they do, likeput that in the movie. And yeah,

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and the creator and in the leadactress Shika Moore and the director actually
said, yeah, that's that's exactlywhat that was. Yeah, we were
HARKing back to that time where peopledidn't accept Miles as as Spider Man.
I was like, that's awesome,Yeah, it's really great, good that
they put in here. Yeah,I love the I love the take that
they do with Spider Man twenty nine, twenty ninety nine in this movie.

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He's not really like that in thecomics. Um, he's he's not.
I wouldn't say he's funny. Hemakes bad jokes, but it's like,
oh god, it's dad jokes SpiderMan, like, like it's something that
really sets him apart. Like he'sgot science stuff and all kinds of great
things in his own right, buthe's not this like dour weight of the
world on my shoulders kind of SpiderMan that's here. And I think Oscar

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Isaac does an incredible job, youknow, as a as a voice actor.
I mean he's a he's a bigtime actor on screen, so is
Hailey Steinfield, but you know,he really brings it. And he's certainly
my favorite character in this movie,which I didn't think anybody would ever outclass
Peter b but they put so muchinto him, and he's so intense and

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so visually striking every detail from thesort of Mesoamerican designs on his costume,
which you know, people who arefamiliar with his Complot costume, it's pretty
close. But it's also like,well, why does Spider Man have like
a weird skull design that doesn't makeany sense? Right, He's not like
the Punisher or anything. And it'sbecause Miguel O'Hara got that costume from like

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a Dia de los Muertos celebration,and he just repurposed it as a Spider
Man costume. Year they make it, they make the skull look more spiderlike.
It's got, you know, thearms and stuff that's pretty typical of
a Spider Man. He's got asort of diamond shape on his back that's
reminiscent of like a black widow Spiderand things like that. So they definitely
spidered him up a little more,but they also kept these interesting cultural roots

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and things like that. Just everythingabout him, every little technological detail and
wiggly woo that happens to, youknow, when he gets electrocuted by Miles
midway through the movie. Just everything, his theme song, the presentations.
He's so great, you know.The chase sequence, I think is really
the best single part of this movie. I think that's hard to argue.

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Ever since people saw the trailer wherethere's just a million and one spider people
chasing after Miles, you knew thatthis was going to be a huge bombast
at climax where you're going to seeall kinds of stuff. There's millions of
cameos from Spider Man we already knowfrom the comics, you know from other
animated properties and things like that.You know, it's just a real it's

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a real treat for people who havebeen fans of Spider Man for a very
long time and people who are justgetting into Spider Man, either through Miles
or you know, through the MCUfilms and things like that. It's a
great, great place and a greattime to be a Spider Man fan.
Dude, everyone who is a SpiderMan fan who's casuallytingto with the absolutely eight

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in this movie with no crumbs left. I mean, they gave you every
possible thing. They caught on allthe Spider people, and the crux of
the story where there was a Spiderfrom another universe that came into Miles's universe
that shouldn't have been there, andthen the original anomaly, and you know,
Miguel sort of holding everything together,really harping on Miles just being this

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thing that shouldn't exist. Also,the commentary of real life and Miles Morales
came out and people saying, youknow, something along the same lines.
I love the fact that they thecreators of this movie also pull stuff in
from real life, like this SpiderMan pointing me, Yeah, I love
they put it in here because youknow, at this point of the movie
we have you know, my Mole'sbeing told it's like, hey, you

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can't go anywhere. This is whatit is. So spider people are supposed
to go through trauma. That's whatmakes us like Spider Man and Moles is
like, well, I can't allowmy own my own dad. You're gonna
you're just gonna let my dad Likeyou're gonna you're gonna tell me my dad's
gonna die, and then you're gonnasay you can't do anything about it.
That's crazy, dude. And thesame in the same looking over at ed
Gwayn Stacey, it's like, isn'tyour dad about to be captain? Like

(29:26):
what are you gonna do? Andshe kind of just looks down like she
just accepts it, like Okay,if this what needs to happen so the
universe doesn't explode or emplode on itself, then whatever. And he's like,
no, I'm gonna do things myway, and then he escapes and I
love them girls like wait stop,Spider Man, and they all pointed at
each other. Yeah, you know, like that played so every time I
saw this movie, absolutely, becauseeveryone everyone just is into the zeitgeist of

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Spider Man and memes. Even ordinarypeople like just they recognize the meme if
it wasn't even just put in likea Facebook chat and text chat or something
like that, it's just permitted into the psyche. And and talk about
the cameos hermony. We have evensomething where you had Donald Glover the live
action problem. I would love tosee him fight in in an MCU movie,

(30:11):
but I mean, I'm just gladwe got it here. Yeah,
seriously, we also had you know, like Toby maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider
mcaun. This is you know,the Sony verse loves it. Dude.
Everybody was like oh when they sawAndrew, yeah, dude, he played
so well in that last movie inNo Way Home. Oh yeah, you
know, like everyone just his felfare, especially them giving him another moment to

(30:36):
save an MJ. Gwen like typecharacter, you know, jumping after like
Dandea, like rescuing her, askingif she's okay, and everyone everyone in
the audience was like crying. Andeven now I was, I was like,
oh my god, whoever did thisas a genius. Yeah, vir
genius. I can't believe they didthis. I mean there's so many I
mean, and people are going onsocial media's absolutely raving with this movie and

(31:00):
absolutely just having their minds blown.Like wait a minute, there's a spider
t rex. What what's you canjust look it up. You can just
look at me and you'd be like, oh shit, because people are going
out to her like wait this.There isn't like a spider X thing here
that I saw in the movie,right, like the spider Cats. That's
just like exploding in popularity of peoplewanting plushies and all sorts of things with
that, coffee mugs and certain things. I mean, if they didn't make

(31:22):
merchandise off every single thing, they'regonna make so much money off of the
merchandizing alone. Myrandizing absolutely insane.There's so many things to eat from from
this movie. I mean, wetalked about the animation being ten out of
ten, top notch, absolutely insane, Like shout outs to the animators.
I mean they're definitely given like freeraid because even though directors and producers have
a hand in this movie and thewriters too, like you can't possibly imagine

(31:47):
what their creatives can do, andthey're probably like, Okay, we know
these animation tricks and secrets and allthese different styles that come together, and
then to wrangle all that into acoherent, continuous movie is absolutely insane.
I don't know how you do that. Like Sony needs to give the keys
to the kingdom, you know,to the absolute incredible direction that is,

(32:15):
go find their names here, PhilLord and Chris Miller. Yes, there
we go. Don't get all folks. Yeah, Phil Lord and Chris Miller,
they should be given the keys tothe Kingdom. I mean they've done
great with like every project that they'vedone, and in this movie, it
proves that you can have an incredibleSpider Man movie that has nothing to do

(32:36):
with an expansive man. How shouldI put this? I like that this
movie has its own identity, right, and the Spider Man in this movie,
Miles Morales, has his own identity. Albeit yes he is sort of
Spider Man Spider Man, but he'snot trying to be another character like in
the MCU they were trying to makeTom Hollins Spiderman, like Tony Stark a
well Iron Man's junior. You know, they were giving him all these different

(32:58):
advantages the Iron Man has given issued with an AI, you know,
and then what do they do withthem? They take it all away.
They take it all away because Imean, like so somebody there had you
know, there was an adult rumorwho's like, hey, this is kind
of getting nuts. Why are youmaking him iron lad? You know what
I mean? This is ridiculous,Like Spider Man doesn't have an AI.
It's like the Spider Man that weknow, Peter Parker like doesn't need that

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stuff, Like it takes away whatmakes him a Spider Man and him being
such like a young kid, misterstarerments to start this movie really exemplified,
like have the character just be theSpider Man, haven't be himself. I
mean, even Miles saying stuff likeI'm gonna do my own thing. Everyone
keeps telling me, you know,my story, And I love that part
of the movie where you know mcguelsaying you shouldn't exist, This shouldn't be

(33:40):
a thing. You know again youknow the directors and everybody's saying, yeah,
that was echoing you know what peoplewere saying when they when we you
know, introduced Miles into the comicuniverse. Um but man, I absolutely
loved this movie. I mean thedrama way with the family, him trying
to juggle being a superhero and tryingto you know, be like a good

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kid with his parents. I mean, the whole scene where he goes from
the Spider Verse like web Web Centralback to quote unquote his universe. Tries
to tell his mom in such aheart warming moment that he's Spider Man,
let like coming into and she's justlike, okay, is that one of
your Is that one of your things? Like that's that's cute, Like what

(34:22):
are you what are you talking about? And he's like huh and then he
glitches out and you're like, oh, he's not in his universe. Yo.
He's like wait a minute, thisand then like his uncle walks in
just supposed to be dead. It'sthe Prowler, like old snappets a Prowler
and then he's like, come on, let's go go to the rooftop.
He's like, oh, this isa universe without a spider this is the
spider that bit mean came from here. This one does not have a Spider

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Man. There is crime everywhere.There's out there. He gets knocked in
the face and then wakes up andhis sins grided his uncle. He's like,
hey, listen, listen, I'mnot supposed to be here. I
like, let me explain. Andthen the Prowler comes in. He's like,
wait a minute. If he's atthe Prowler, then then who is
And boom, it's himself from thatuniverse. He's the Prowler and he's staring

(35:06):
at himself and and oh man,it's so crazy how everything is coming into
fruition and then and then boom,part too beyond the Spider Verse, absolutely
insane. I mean this Morales willreturn, dude. There's so many good
parts of this movie. You havethe relationship between him and Gwen, you
know, sort of being her friendshipto a little bit more, but but
nothing too too crazy, because it'salso like a kids movie, you know,

(35:29):
like I like how they didn't golike one hundred percent. Oh yeah,
these two are gonna be like smoochyou, smoochy, lovey dovey.
You know, they're they're friends.She's trying to keep him at like like
a distance, you know, likeI learned, I learned a new word.
I follow this guy f D signifieron YouTube and Twitter, and he
really opened my eyes to a lotof stuff about what, you know,

(35:49):
movies like this and Black Panther,you know, really mean to the Black
community and how that speaks to them, which is obviously an experience that I
don't have being a white person.But I found out out that there is
a term to refer to this sortof relate interracial relationship as the swirl.
Wow, you, I've never heardof this. I think that's so funny.

(36:15):
Yoh yeah, yeah, the swirlor dipping in the milk. People
are just start throwing it at him. It's like, fty, how do
you feel about the swirl in thisfilm? And I'm like, wait what?
And He's like, I think theyhandled it pretty well. And I'm
like, okay, all right,yes, interesting. Interesting. There are
there are people in the black communitywho also don't like the relationship between Green

(36:36):
Stacey and Miles Morales because there's somany negative portrayals in media and in movies
and TV shows on Black love wherethere's always some sort of caveat there's some
sort of you know, like thehusbands are hoodlum and then the wives are
nourished or something like that. Yeah, you know, they're a bus to
each other, and you know,you know, even you know, like
pointing fingers at certain black creators likeTyler Perry shit Shana rhymes of black people

(36:58):
in power who do make some ofthese things and not having a positive outlook.
So you have even like you know, like like black mother groups who
are just like, oh, youknow, I took my little boy to
see it, you know, likeI love that there is like a black
you know, spider women in thismovie. Miles Morouse is black. My
son's obviously black. Then you haven'tgo for like the white girl, Like
why isn't there another like like blacklike Spider Girl. There was one of
the movie like where couldn't be likesome positive black and black love. So

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there are people from the black communitywho who were okay with it, didn't
mind it. Some people who arelike oh whatever, I didn't even think
about it to some people in theblack community, even like like black mother
groups who are just like, oh, like why is he going after?
Like why could we be seeing thistrope so many times in Hollywood where like
you know, the Black Boy,and there there is there's like I'm not
gonna go into a deeper conversation,but there is like an over hyper sexualization

(37:42):
of black meals. It comes fromslavery times bread to be like you know,
like you know, cattle and breedingstuff like that, and it still
sort of permeates too. Yeah,it continues today in adult media and all
kinds of stuff. It's really it'sit's terrible. Yeah, so so,
but but I personally I liked it. I thought it was you know,
I saw it as them as likedoing like sort of showing kids that you

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can just like you can be friendsand have a good, healthy relationship with
with somebody that that you like oryou know, you're not necessarily full going
fully in and be like worthing agirlfriend or whatever. Because you can kind
of see Miles as into her,and she's she's into into Miles too,
but at the same time like sortof keeping that sort of like distance because
Gwen's like, well, in everyuniverse, you know, Gwen Stay does
fall for Spider Man, but inmost of them are often not it doesn't

(38:25):
work out. Yeah, falls inoff a bridge, down a clock tower,
several all the horrorrendous stuff, andGwen's is like, damn it all
all the best that happens to BigI don't want to hell. And that's
apparently. What's that's gonna apparently bea big feature in the next movie is
is we see parallel Gwen's and stuff? And it's they will probably show something

(38:49):
I've been dying to see, whichis, yeah, pretty much? Uh
is Peter Bee's version of Gwen Stacy. Now, by all accounts, Peter
B. Parker is your classic SpiderMan, Right. Everything that's happened to
say a comic book Spider Man hasprobably happened to him, right, you
know, the full relationship with MaryJane now having you know, may I

(39:14):
think that he had a Gwen Stacyas a kid, and he is just
completely avoided talking about it with GhostSpider because how are you gonna, like,
how could you possibly bring it upwhere it's like, hey, so
this is weird. You look likethe sixteen year old version of the girl
I loved when I was sixteen.You know, there's no okay way to

(39:37):
talk about that, right, It'slike you're you're my dead girlfriend who's standing
right in front of me again.I'm just trying to get my life back
together here and and now I haveto see like what's happening, what's going
on? You know, And itwould be I can understand why it would
be a weird thing to put inthe first movie, because it's really about
him getting over his own personal hangups and you know, rekindling with Mary

(40:00):
Jane, who is his you know, the true love of his life,
the true living love of his life. Um. But if they're if they're
gonna explore what happens to Gwen Stacy'sin the multiverse, I need it.
I need I need some acknowledgement thatPeter b had a Gwen in his life
and he is just so deeply repressedit. You know, Yeah, because

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even in like the Spider Verse,like Central there there weren't create for him.
Wrong, there weren't other gwen Stacieswere there as far as we know.
I mean, there are a lotof Spider women there who were fully
masked so you can't really tell.But and some dummy thick ones too.
I was gonna say that I alwaysnoticed the one that was really really the
thing they had her in the FORECRD. Her suit when it came out was

(40:45):
amazing. What the hell she lookedlike? She looked poison is, she
looked deadly, She had like abunch of eyes. And that was the
one with the Blue Carapists. Yeah, yeah, I think she's Yeah,
I think she's supposed to be likea spin on Iranya. Um, that's
a pretty it's a pretty cool thing. I mean, I've been following a
lot of these artists and animators onTwitter and they're showing all these behind the

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scenes looks at at you know,the designs for even these tiny, you
know, infinitesimal background characters. Somuch work went into this movie, and
it's no wonder that it took likefour or five years to create absolutely roots
and maybe they'll have an intre Garfieldsaving mg mover for Peter B. Parkery

(41:27):
in beyond the Spider Verse. Idon't think we need to put this man
there anymore. He's been Spider Manfor twenty two years. Like it's I
don't know if he's the oldest onein that room, but I mean the
fact that Miguel puts up with him, um has got a stand for something.
He might be the biggest veteran SpiderMan and out of all of them,
which is I think so because becausehe even like you know, well

(41:50):
but like like like Peter B's equippingand kind of whatever, and you know,
his kids just going all around,you know, like the mcguel just
sort of takes it. He justsort of just like yeah, accepts it.
That does and tell him to shutup or like you know, get
out of here. And you knowhe sort of like has like an air
of like reverence for him too.Yeah. And also he was there for
Miguel when the universe was collapsing aroundhim. That's a that's a pretty big

(42:12):
thing to stand by your guy.Yeah, because I guess he's supposed to
be like like the like Peter,you know, the one like through responsibility.
Yeah, I would love to haveseen Nicholas Cage is uh you know
Noir back in here. I lovedhis character. The next one, Yeah,
I got the band back together.I can't wait. I absolutely love
that one. And some people likemissed that crew from the last one.

(42:34):
But I think there were so manycharacters and the story here kind of worked
without it. I mean you hadlike the like the Japanese like GP one,
like towards the end, you know, they're released too much. But
I think I think she went througha couple of cannon events since last I
really put her through the ringer.Oh man, what was your favorite sort

(42:54):
of cameo Easter Rigg was there onethat really like blew your mind or I
mean, twenty ninety nine isn't reallya cameos since they made him a full
character, But when he was teasedin the last movie, I was really
looking forward to what they'd do withhim. Um, a couple of fun
ones. I love that they gotthat fourteen year old kid to do the
Lego Spider Man segments. I thinkthat's what an amazing elevation of fan to,

(43:16):
you know, actually working on thesethings that story. Oh well.
So so when they put out thetrailer for Spider Verse a couple of years
ago, this kid on YouTube whodid a bunch of who does a bunch
of YouTube you know recreations, youknow in lego of film trailers, did
the Spider Verse one. And thensince the film was still in development at

(43:36):
the time, I guess they justhired him to do that you know,
minute long segment where the you know, the spot pops into his universe.
That's lots of watch yeah see,oh yeah, um, you know,
and then he since he since goneon to remake a bunch of scenes like
shot for shot from the movie,which I think is really cool. Um,
but it's so I mean, theyjust grabbed some kid who's just been

(43:58):
doing it on YouTube, but likehis work is incredible. Like I've seen
a couple of stop motion you know, Lego stuff before, but this kid
really goes by the book in thesame way like the Lego Movie does.
Like you know, in animation,they have these little transitions, you know,
like where things get like stretched,you know, like if a cartoon
character moves really fast, there's likea big smear is what they call it.

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In the Lego movie, everything wasmade out of Legos, even things
like the smear effects, and thiskid does the same thing. You know.
It's really like you got to reallylike pause frame by frame and look
at some of this stuff because thedetails impeccable. But for a kid to
do this sort of thing, Ithink is amazing. And I think they
recognize that too, and they andthey put them in other great cameos.

(44:45):
I love Mayda Parker. I mean, I'm a huge fan of the Spider
Girl run of comics and that wholeMC two universe where you get to see
you know, Avengers Next and theX People and a whole bunch of of
future superheroes like Dark Devil. Umthat's the universe she comes from. And
really where they're kind of pushing PeterB into that sort of successor universe.

(45:08):
Um, you know, my originalthoughts for this movie is, you know,
they'd go to recruit Peter B forsome you know, for some you
know, adventure across the multiverse,and they'd they'd see him and he's like
sixteen years older. You know,he's got a gray streak in his hair.
You know, he's working for thepolice department or something. And he's
like, no, no, no, I'm I'm fifty four years old.

(45:30):
I'm too old to do the SpiderMan thing anymore. Green Goblin blew up
my leg with a bomb, LikeI'm not I'm retired. You know.
My daughter's sixteen, she's Spider Girl. You take her. I'm not doing
it. You know, I couldthat, I could see it in my
mind. Um you know that.Yeah, I mean, but that would
be a thing if like, youknow, then it gets complicated where it's

(45:50):
like, oh, in in oneuniverse, you know, Miles and everybody
else only aged a year, butfor Peter it was sixteen. And it's
like, you know, they probablywant him in the movie more they the
idea of why he had may becauseof Miles, the kind of person that
he wants her to become. Ithink it's better shown with her just as
a baby instead of a fully grownadult or not fully grown adult, but

(46:13):
you know, like an active superheroteenager. You know, I don't know.
I think it could have It couldhave been great. We may still
see it. I mean, wecould get an epilogue in this next movie
where we see what is spider Whatis Miles Morales like as an adult Spider
Man, right, you know,you see him where he's been Spider Man
for sixteen years or something like that. You get to see you know,

(46:36):
may Day inherit the mantle, inher universe. It's very possible we'll still
see it. But I was inmy in my mind, I thought that
would be a very interesting twist anda good way to write Peter be out
of these movies because his arc ismore or less complete. Um, you
know, he's fully entrenched in hisrole as Spider Man, a multiversal Spider
Man. He's he's got the familything worked out, you know, he's

(46:58):
raising a kid like things are goingreally good for him. He really turned
it around. Um. Absolutely,it's it's it's so crazy what this movie
has done. Like thee industry needsto take note of this movie. Did
you you've seen the trailer for NinjaTurtles right, yeah, Oh it's the
same thing. They totally like cribthe animation style, you know, oh

(47:19):
we're animating on the tubes, Likeit looks similar. I was like,
yeah, he inspired much. Theyknow what people wanting. They like,
you know, I can't tell youhow funny it is to me that after
seeing Spider Man in Civil War intwenty sixteen, which is seven years ago,
which I can't even that's crazy.How does it anywhere? How does

(47:43):
Tom Holland look exactly the same,And there's seven years but I I,
you know, after after you knowas great and and I love the Redemption
arc that Andrew Garfield is on forhis work as Spider Man, But after
those two not really that great movies, seeing a proper Spider Man in Civil
War and then really good in Homecoming, You're like, all right, why

(48:04):
doesn't Sony just give Marvel the keys? Right? Then twenty eighteen rolls around
into the Spider Verse comes out,and I'm like, no, let's Sony,
let's Sony cook, Let him cook, Let him cook. You know,
they're they're making an animated movie thatlooks like nothing else. It's exploring
the deeper mythos of this character thatthe MCU is never gonna touch or is

(48:25):
too afraid to touch. Like imagineI'm trying to roll out of Gwen Stacey
at this point. You can't doit, Yeah, I mean, I
mean impossible. We have to introducethis whole character like you gotta. Yeah,
Like there's so much like like backbuilding, you know, and that was
gonna leave me to talk into.Like you know, there was this whole
other verse in the Marvels American universe, but Tom Holland Spider Man you got,

(48:46):
you know, he's guy in thechair NT and you got his own
MG. It's just like this weirdelsewhere. I always thought it is this
like elseworld story, like I Iand because because his his trilogy was okay,
it's so yeah, and you haveto watch you have to watch three
of the funny thing about the SpiderMan trilogy is you have to watch another

(49:07):
movie before you watch his movies.You must watch Civil War before you watch
Homecoming. You you have to watchum uh not Infinity War. Another one
that came out right before No WayHome, um, you know, or
not no Way Home far from Home, you know, and then No Way

(49:27):
Home you have to watch Infinity Waran endgame. Like it's just you know,
I appreciate the Shared Universe, butit's like, you can't enjoy these
Spider Man movies in isolation anymore.Yeah, except for these two. Except
for these two, which are likeself contained stories. And that's really a
problem with with the MCU, Like, even though they did something incredible that
Northern Studio has done before and everystudio has trying to copy since, it
really does make it messy, likeyou say, because there's so much involved.

(49:53):
If you miss one of those things, you're like, oh, well,
what are they referencing, or like, why is this thing happened?
Or why is this person different orthis person you know, like sit saying
this, and then you see theSpider Verse, you're like, man,
this is the Spider Man story.This is Spider Man more than like the
Tom Holland stuff. And you know, we have a rider strike going on

(50:14):
right now. So the next TomHolland like Spiderman movie was put on a
hole because after the last one madeso much money, which that one was
supposed to be the last one.To just give us more money. Yeah
you got three Sney made over abillion dollars and just like, oh yeah,
we're making another one. These thingsare so profitable. Um. But
because the Rider strike, it wasit was on hold. But I was

(50:37):
just like, I hope everyone fromthose movies, everyone involved, watch this
one. Yeah, this is howyou do Spider Man, not mister Stark.
Mister Stork. Oh, I'm alittle boy. I don't want to
be Spider Man more. I wantto go to a field trip with my
friends. I'm like, give mea freaking break. Which the age of
the teenage Peter Parker is over.If you're doing a young story about Spider

(50:58):
Man, use miles, just doit. Give absolutely give us. If
you want a story about a matureSpider Man, a family man, a
man who is living check to check, trying to juggle every goddamn thing in
his life, most of his fansare between the ages of twenty five and
fifty. It's just the way itis with people reading comic books. Old

(51:22):
people want an old Peter Parker.Just I want to see this man struggle.
I don't want any teenage bullshit.I want him being like, oh
god, I didn't pick up theroast for dinner, like, but I
have to punch the shit out ofthe rhino, like just real shit,
you know. I mean even evenhad that in this movie where he was
he needed to bring the cakes tohis dad's promotion. That's great, and

(51:45):
fights armadillo. You know, it'sa bunch of other stuff going on.
So they even had that too.It was absolutely incredible. And and I
understand that they do it younger,and they geared the story younger, but
I think it was a huge mistepbecause when I was a child, I
used to be a little boy.I mean I had like the nineties Spider
Man and in that one, hewas in college, you know, like

(52:06):
he was in university. You know, he was with like Doc Connors,
and it had a incredible like metaltheme with the guitar the World's Worst polo.
Yeah, insane nineties Spider Man zeroDrip. And then we had the
toy Toby McGuire, which was thequintessential Peter Parker Spider Man struggling stuff like
that, like so and and again, like we were all young when we

(52:29):
saw that, and even even tothis day, I've seen reaction videos of
like this younger generation. We're talkinglike like like teenagers from the Toronto to
TikTok generation who have been doing YouTubereacts and Patroon reacts to the Toby McGuire
one, and they love it.They're like, whoa this is I don't
know, the Tom hollow when thisone's incredible. Let's just see just to

(52:49):
see their reaction of just like Ikind of like this one better. Like
I saw this one with this girlshe's like nineteen, and her older siblings
were like, watch this one,this is my Spider Man, and she
liked it better. And the TomHolland ones, What does I tell you
what? I don't know, Idon't know what that tells you? She
was just like, oh he kindof this kind of felt more like like
Spider Man was capable, like hewas stronger. I don't know, but
but anyway, I mean, lookeveryone, yeah, oh sorry, I

(53:13):
was gonna say, look no furtherthan No Way Home to tell you,
Okay, we need to give TomHolland a doctor out to push in a
green goblin to fight. Well,how could we possibly do better than two
thousand and two and two thousand andfour with Alfred Molina and Wilhelm Dafoe.
Let's let's we don't have to We'lljust get him and smear a little Cgi

(53:35):
jelly on those faces makes him younger. Oh my god. So it's any
wonder. I wonder if if TomHolland and the rest of his uh his
you know crew who puts some moviestogether, saw this across the Spider Verse,
because in recent news, Tom Hollandtalks about quitting being Spider Man.
In a recent interviewer talking about youknow, long story short, he you

(53:55):
know, he said he's the luckiestkid alive if you know he got to
play him for the res to hislife. Um, he said, you
know, they did the character service. He thinks. I think as long
as we can do Peter Parker Justice, as long as we can keep elevating
and making the films better and makingthem mean more, I think I'll be
there. It'd be stupid to saythat I wouldn't be the luckiest kid alive
if I got to do it again. There's stuff going on, but we'll

(54:15):
have to just wait and see whathappens. I mean, I listen,
if I was in that camp ofyou know, like Spider Man Homecoming,
you know, a home you knowfor far from Home, And I see
this movie, I'm like, howare we going to make the next one?
The next live actor? We gottafollow this because like people are like,
are seeing this movie there, justlike this is a great spider and
movie period, one of the bestspider movies period. How do you then

(54:39):
go back to a Tom Holla onewhere he's just like, oh, I'm
so sad that Tony starts my secretidentities. Nobody knows who Peter Parker is,
who I am, a little alittle baby, you know, like,
what do you even do? Imean, they rebooted him finally,

(55:00):
you know, with none of theplucky sidekicks that were necessary. I mean,
I don't know how you write thenext live action one. So I
don't know if I'm just being messyright now, I'm just being messy and
saying that he saw this one andhe's just like, there's no way we
can do but I gotta quit millionsof dollars. The last one was great.
The next one I have no ideahow the next one will be better.

(55:22):
This movie's a banger. There's noway we can write a better script
than this one. It's I don'tsee how we're gonna give it to Timothy
shallow May. Yeah. Oh that'sthat's a good. That's actually a good.
I write an interview I think todaywith Tom Holland joke that he feels
so lucky that he gets to beSpider Man in a world where Timothy Shalom
is also an actor Spider Man,you know, web selling it on a

(55:46):
worm baby, dude, he coulddo it too, because I mean,
like he's he's a fantastic actor,absolutely just and for a young guy too.
He's great and everything that he's inso far, Tom Holland will never
be James Bond. Will he's playingSpider less, he gets a James Bond
role. I don't think like likelike Jammes Bond that movie. Um it's

(56:07):
owned by but by a family,um unless they give the right. So
I don't think they sold the rights. There's a time the Broccolis are gonna
own James Bond forever. Yeah,they they're they're not gonna do that.
They owned it for seventy years.They're not They're not doing it. Yeah,
James Bond has does a certain lookand feel and and and knows what
to tim to Holland. But he'slike this young kid. I mean look

(56:28):
at him as like Nathan Drake andand you know he's a baby heart.
I mean, I mean, howdid that play out for everybody? But
in any case casey um across theSpider Verse, fantastic tut ten amazing,
amazing, absolutely incredible. It's notun a ten for me at one minus
one point for being a part two. That's the only thing I see.

(56:52):
That's the only because I haven't seenthe ending. I haven't seen the ending.
Empire Strikes Back also ended on acliffhanger. Let's not for very true,
very true, very true, verytrue, one of them one of
the best stars movies of all time. Um, but yeah, man,
I I would say, you knowit's it's playing in theaters everywhere. I'd
say, this is absolutely full price, bring your whole family, has something

(57:14):
for everybody. Every every one themthat I left the theater with love the
movie. Random people that I talkedto were raving about it. You know,
you hear people on the train andthe bus wherever you are raving about
about this movie. And it's greatto see, you know, like like
young people seeing themselves up on screen. There are so many like little black
boys who were dressed as Miles Moralesin a both theaters I went to.

(57:36):
You know, they're in the costumeslike they got the popcorn bucket. Yeah,
you know, it was man,it was. It was a career
they got just got to see themselvesand to see so many people who are
just like, yeah, you canbe like that. That's that's that's what
it is. Um wis by representationmatters up on screen, So everyone,
Uh yeah, that's it for SpiderMan. Across the Spider Verse. I

(57:57):
would say full matinee price. It'sone hundred percent worth it. If you
hadn't seen the first one, theycatch you up in this one, so
you can just absolutely just dive intothis one. But dude, try to
see the first one and then comingto this one. It really benefits.
But yeah, Casey and the lastwords for across the Spider Verse go see
it and until we'll be back herein nine months to talk about the sequel.

(58:22):
Yeah, hopefully come sooner than later. That's it for us, guys.
We'll see you later. We'll seeyou another time.