Star Wars AHSOKA | Mid Season Review | Eps 1-4 - BadCoyoteFunky: Geek Culture Podcast

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Hello everyone to welcome to the show. Tonight, we're talking about Star Wars
Asoka airing on Disney Plus and prettysoon movie theaters. Interesting. We'll get
to that little bit later tonight totalk about the episode Rebels and Clone Wars
efficient out or our very own dotChris here at my own lightsaber and absolutely
no forcibility. Yeah, and I'myour hose bad Cody series jo. So

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guys, Asoka, one of themost popular characters and Star Wars, finally
gets her own show, much tothe delight of Star Wars Rebels fans and
Clone Wars fans who've seen her grownup as Snips and the Sky Guy Zira
when she wasn't really like too ofthe warrior that she is now. So,
Chris, we have eight episodes thistime, as opposed to some of

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the six episodes the other series havebeen going through, like Obi Wan and
some of the other Marvel shows aswell. This time around, we're getting
a really fleshed out story from somethingthat has been going on for years now.
So people are calling it. Thenext season of Rebels is supposed to
just the standalone Asoka show. Weare four episodes in out of eight.
How are you feeling so far aboutthe series really good, but definitely having

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pacing itis, Like like almost allof the like Disney Plus shows that we've
seen so far, I like what'shappening. I don't necessarily love how quickly
it's happening or not thereof story isgreat. I feel like it definitely feels
more like the Sabine Show than aSoca show. That's not a bad thing,
It's just a weird branding. Butoverall, I'm like, I'm liking

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what's happening. I feel like thelast episode, like the you know,
the last few minutes had kind oflike a moment, but like overall hasn't
had like some hasn't had like theexplosive moments that I've been waiting for.
That doesn't mean it's bad, itjust means that it's been like, all
right, cool, This like reallydoes feel like Rebels kind of continuation where

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it feels more like the slower burnof that than like fireworks and whatnot.
So definitely solid, definitely liking it, but also I'm tainted because I love
Rebels as well. So you assomeone who hasn't watched Rebels, hasn't watched
Clone Wars, how are you feelingabout it? Well, well, I

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have watched the majority of Clone Wars, and then I kind of teetered off
whence you know, like everything lifefinds way, life happens. You know,
you got jobs, you guys.Things areting on. Uh. And
then I started watching the key episodesyou need to watch. And because of
this thing called Star Wars Rebels,I was coming up's like, okay,
I'm seeing some of the things arehappening, you know, I'm seeing you
know, like like a lot ofthe direction that was being taken to bring
into Rebels. And there with StarWars Rebels, you know, watched the

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first season what wasn't really for me? And that's okay, Basket Robinson sientified
different flavors. Uh. Then Iwatched the the key episode sort of you
know, like I'm a I'm ananime watcher, an anime and joan anime
fan. There's always filler, there'salways like the key episode you gotta watch
looking at you not aote on onepiece. So went back to watch some
of the key episodes of things thatwere going on Rebels before Asoka was even

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and now it's just because Rebels isStar Wars Cannon. As a Star Wars
fan, I want to be upto, you know, to speak with
what's going on in uh, youknow, this thing that I grew up
with, the thing that I love, and you know, not having watched
it from beginning to end, justsome of the key episodes and even some
of the things tying in on YouTube. So far, I am liking this
series. I like the tone thatDave Filoni is putting out there. I

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like he's making more more serious andless like you know, Chuckiley, less
like Kitty Like. I see thathe's trying to make a real Star War
which I appreciate. You know,he is a student of George Lucas.
He was the padawan and now heis the master. He was but the
learner. Now he is the master. And at the same time, there
are certain things that I do feellike I'm missing out on because I wasn't

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a Rebels fan, and I thinkalso aside from liking it, there's also
some things that I'm not liking becauseI think I don't have the rose colored
glasses, the vanilla glaze of Davefoloniens a lot of people do, which
is fine, you know, justlike how I'm a huge fan of Jim
Carrey. There are some movies peoplethink are terrible that I really like,

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But because I have Jim Carrey bias, I give my boy a pass.
I think some of that is growingout with Dave Filoni. But anyways,
so so far the continuation of thestory of Rebels. Here we have Asoka
in the Mandalorian, who is lookingfor grandam l Thron. Here it's sort
of the same thing, well,not really looking for Thron, looking for
Ezra through Thron, because I thinkit's easier to find, you know,

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Thrown. He's such a bigger presence, He's got, you know, the
whole fleet out there, lost amongstthe stars since last we saw him in
Ezra on the bridge of the Chimerabeing lost out there. So here we're
continuing her journey and it's interesting sofar the story. I think I'm enjoying

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it overall. But there are somecritiques I have, but a lot of
the things I am I enjoying.I think Rosario Dawson was a w pick,
absolute great pick for Ahsoka. Imean, even with you know,
the outlying you know, outer rimregions of the Star Wars fandom who don't
like a lot of main characters anda lot of people have in the added
to Star Wars. They've you know, even they outliers sink. Oh hey,

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yeah, she's doing a good job. You have some newcomers coming in
in order to play the live actioncounterparts here, like you got Natasha Boradisio
hope. I'm saying that rightists arebeing wren Mary Elizabeth Winstairs coming in to
play hera. We also have IvanaSakino playing Shinhati, a new Dark Apprentice

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and her master played by rest inPeace. Ray Stevenson playing Baalen Skull,
one of the Dark Jedi there,and of course the talented and incredible David
Tennant playing Hu Yang Man. Well, what an incredible cast here. I
mean there's so many there's so muchtalent here and you see it on display.

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I mean, my favorite character sofar are the Dark Jedi. We
don't know who they are. Wesee earlier in the series they come into
contact with the New Republic and theCommander there is like, wait a minute,
they're they're being their their code iscoming in his Jedi that that's not
right. There's just no Jedi.I think these people are fake. So
he goes, so he gives hishis his second rank. Hey, you

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you're in charge. Now I'm gonnago down there in person wait with a
small security team and find out whothese people are. And sure enough we
meet Bailin Scoll play Ray Stevenson andshint to play by Evana and men.
Do they go to work? Andwhat are they doing? They're breaking out?
If you remember her from the previousseries, Morgan Elsbeth, so dan
Elite Morgan Elsbeth. Yeah, it'ssuch such like a non Star Wars name

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because you have like Bailin sco herecomes Danielle like like her task else with
task is to bring Brack bring backGrand Admiral Thron. Why is she bringing
back Grand Nombal Thron? How isshe tied to him? What was this?

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Have we seen her character before Chrisand Rebels or Clone Wars We've not.
She is new. That being said, she is a night sister of
Dathamare, so she comes from kindof the same the same race, like
the female race of that Darth Maulawas. So instead of like just mostly

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straight up warriors, they are theirwitches. So they also interact with the
force, but in a very differentway where it feels more magic e and
spells and like you know, bubblebubble toil and trouble type of feeling thing
they do stuff with they it feelsvery like almost like decayed magic, like

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dealing with the dead. So itis pretty it is pretty interesting and pretty
dark. They're actually really cool.In fact, if you played through either
of the Jedi games, Maren fromthe Jedi Fallen Order or Survivor games is
also a Night Sister, one ofthe survivors of basically them coming in and

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our grievous coming in and just absolutelypretty much wiping out the entire planet for
the most part, we save aselect few. Yeah, so kind of
interesting there. So that's that wholeconcept of the Night Sisters is definitely like
a really cool and pretty well exploredin the Clone Wars, not so much
in Rebels, but kind of seta really cool vibe and it's awesome seeing

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them bring some of that into intolive action because when we first saw Morgan
Elsbeth in the Mandalorian, I don'tthink we knew that she was that she
was a Night Sister. I thinkit's probably it was a red con.
I just just displaying simple I mean, if you're growing up against you know,
all former Jedi like Asoka Tana,and you see outside of like the

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province that you are in charge of, that she's wasting your guys away,
and then she comes to fight youand you don't use any of your witch
magic, it probably your red conmore than likely. But also it was
probably like all right, if wewant to use this character, but like,
how can we make this character powerfulenough to go up against the Jedi
and hold their own It's like,all right, what about these Night Sisters

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that I came up with. Shelooks kind of she looks like not super
creepy yet, but like maybe alittle creepy. Let's just make her creepier.
I wonder if if she uses herpowers more, because she's displaying them
more and more as the episodes goon, that she gets more you know
in Tano looks more witch like.If that's the thing with the Night Sisters.
Yeah, I mean, she's gotthe she's got the like tattoos on
her face. I don't know alot about her yet, but you just

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know that she didn't come to play. It's interesting to see the red con
to make her a Night Sister becauseshe uses her magic on the mcguffin.
What's the mcguffin the item that thecharacters care about that we don't. In
order for grand Animal thrown to comeback, you have to find him because
he sort of went off into thefar reaches up space with Ezra Miller.

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There there's a Jedi Fallen Order otterfact. I don't know. I feel
like the lucasfilm Stur group is like, hey, you guys over Jedi Fallen
Order. In a response, youguys are doing a great job over there.
Can we get one of you tohelp out with the plot over here?
We need we need something? Uh, and the guys, I,
well, in video games there's alwayslike an item, there's a puzzle.

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What do you guys want there?Like, Okay, keep brains, keep
brains, brain story, keep keeptrying at me, keep coming at me.
As Dave Filoni like puts on hiscowboy hat and tilts it more and
uh, and he she's like,oh, okay, so we'll have this
like like fifth Element situation where yougo down into a temple, you do
a thing. Uh, this artifactcomes up and that's what you're going to
use in order to find this othergalaxy. Now how we knew that it

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was there? Not important? Notimportant. We got the mcguffin, We
got the item that will take usto one of the one of the main
batties in Grand Aamal Thron. Andif the general public hasn't seen Rebels and
hasn't read the Timothy z On books, Chris, who is Grand Admiral Thron,
So Grand Admiral Thron is an admiralfor the Empire or was whatever what

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have you. And he is likea master technician, so he's not like
a guy that or at least wehaven't seen him in in Rebels, be
someone that like you know, jumpsin and does the fighting himself, which
he can, he absolutely can holdhis own. But he's someone that uses
his mind to study his enemies andjust like absolutely annihilate them using like very

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sound tactics. So he has beenso he turns out being one of the
main enemies that they face in inRebels and spoilers, if you haven't seen
Rebels, we've had years too,and like, what the hell are you
watching doing talking about Asoka if youhaven't even watched a few first episodes,

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which kind of tell you that thefinale of Rebels is Ezra basically tricking Thrown
into getting stuck and pulled through hyperspace from these giant kind of space whales
called the Pergol, who have theability to travel at light speed and they
pull they basically blast off with thronin Ezra off to somewhere and kind of

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at that point, no one reallyknows where. So clearly Asoka at the
beginning of this has an idea that, oh, I think Thrown is alive
and he could come back, Sowe got to find him, and if
we find him, we're also goingto find Ezra. So that's kind of
the main, the main storyline thatwe're looking at here. But as but

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he's a he's a scary dude.He's one of the guys that talks very
very slow, lead deliberately and isjust terrifying because you know that as you're
talking to this dude, he's thinkingof six ways that he can defeat you
in the moment. It's great.Yeah, And along with Grandamal Thrown,
can you talk a little bit aboutbecause I think some of the general audience
is, you know, might bea little lost onto why we're looking for

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Ezra. So so as someone whohas watched like the main bits of Rebels,
I kind of get the gist why, but I have I have a
lot of people who only watched likethe live action Star Wars stuff, and
right now this this love letter toRebels fans. It is growing great for
everyone who's watched Rebels, but foreveryone else, And I kind of like
put myself in the seat of thegeneral populace right now in Star Wars for

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the first time watching a Star Warsproperty. Why Why is Ezra on everyone's
mind? Why is everyone like likelooking for him everyone as in like the
cast of Rebels? Then how ishe tied to Grand Animal Thron? So
Ezra was the main character of Rebels. He is a youth that ends up

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running into a ragtag group of asmall little cell of rebels fighting against the
Empire, in which Hera and Sabinewere a part of. Also included in
that group was a guy named KananJaris. Turns out Kanaan was a Jedi

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padawan who survived Order sixty six afterhis master basically protected him, so he
They end up taking in Ezra andfinding out that Ezra has force abilities,
so he ends up training Canan endsup training Ezra as a Jedi takes him
under his wing. So Ezra hasbecomes an integral part of the small rebels

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cell, which gradually joins the greaterrebellion. He was kind of key in
in working to actually free his homeplanet of Lathal, which is where this
show kind of starts off, wherewith the big City. He was able
to actually organize basically the eradication ofthe Empire on Lethal, in part of

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which in doing so, because thefinale of that was Admiral Thron kind of
leading a siege he would on Lethal, they were able to he was able
to trick him in wheezing the Pergolinto getting rid of him and his kind
of flagship ship to get him andall the rest of the Empire off the

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planet. So Ezra kind of akind of a rebel leader. For the
most part, he was part ofthat small group, so they were kind
of, you know, all misfitsthat became each other's family. So as
far as Hara Sabine, that's whohe was with most of the time.
Asoka pops in and out of rebels, so she is there, she is

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friends with all of them, butshe's kind of only in a few a
few key episodes for the most part. So I hope that's a little quick,
a little rundown of who who theheck Ezra is and why that was
great? That was great, absolutely, because as much as people are enjoying
the show, and you know,again being sort of like a general audience

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member, because I just watched keyparts of Rebels and that wasn't too it's
keen on it the show. WhileI am enjoying it, there are some
critiques, and one of them isthat it doesn't really do much to really
highlight some of the motivations of thecharacters in my view, and I've been
seeing an echo throughout some of theother people in the Star Wars fandom who
mainly just watched the live action stuff. So, I mean, we have

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even right here in the chat akick eating dragon. I watch some of
Rebels, but it was very muchfor a younger audience. I'm sure tons
of people missed out on the Rebelstory. Yeah, so so right now,
you know, there are tons ofpeople even you know, like people
like my dad and watch live actionstuff like, oh, who is this
Ezra guy? Why is this throngguy? So bad? I mean,
you know, like, is isDave Filoni riding himself into her corner?

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Or is everything going to be explainedlater on? Because you have these characters
who have motivations from a previous property, we haven't done the homework. Then
it's just like okay, what amI watching here? And then you have
some people arguing, well, Imean there are other properties that you know,
you have to watch stuff that camebefore. I mean it worked out
with marvel here. If you watchRebels, if you watch all Own Wars,

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then you know you're in good company. You know, Daveloni is running
a love letter to you. Butfor everybody else, it's like, you
know, just watch the thing.If you get it, you get it.
If you dealt within two bad suckit up, butter Cup. And
I'm wondering if if that's really goodstorytelling or if people cause i mean people
are following along, but it's apoint where it's like there's no explanation as

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to why we need is Ezra guyback. Just the only thing is like,
okay, he's a friend of ours, and as we see some decisions
are being made that could potentially ruinthe galaxy over friendship. But also this
Big Bad who we also haven't reallybeen explained or shown. He's out there

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in the wings and he can comeback and return. Why do we need
him when invaders around? So there'salso some some of critiques here with with
the show. So that aside.Another thing I really enjoy about is the
Dark Jedi. We have Balin Skulland Shinhati, great creation, great original
characters. We are getting a newTales of the Jedi, so I hopefully,

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I'm hoping. I was talking toa co worker about this, like
Chris, a Balin Skull and ShinhatiTales of the Jedi. I mean,
hell, I would love to seewhere they came from, you know,
especially like Shinhati. Everyone's been reallykeen on her, calling her you know,
shin Batty, Shinhati. You know, some weird people calling her forest
mommy. There's there's all sorts ofinteresting things that the fandom has come up

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with her. Balin Skull played byRay Stevenson rist in peace, great characteristic
so far, where did he comefrom? And also, Chris, how
do you feel about more and morecharacters knowing Anakin Skywalker and knowing that's turned
into Vader because Balin was in abattle with Asok in the least episode that

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telling Ahsoka, uh you know,I you know, Anakin spoke very highly
of you, you know, andfew saw what he become. Does this
make for a compelling story? Doesthis make for a character convenience? What
do you think about Balin's skull knowingAnakin? Knowing knowing that character? I'm

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okay with him knowing Anakin. WhatI do love about Balin is it seems
like this is a true dark Jedi, so not a Sith, but a
dark Jedi, someone who clearly seemsto be still following the teachings but maybe
using them in a different way likea lot of Sith. The Sith in

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their apprentice is a very adversarial role, but hear him and what seems to
be as Padawan, who even hasthe little like brain on the side,
seems to be more of like amentor mentee relationship, which I think is
great in something that hasn't been exploreda whole lot. So Balin clearly has

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been around a while, so Ithink it makes sense that he would know
Anakin. I was watching something thatthere was there's some companion book about the
Clone Wars that was talking about howlike actually well known that Anakin and Obi
Wan actually became kind of throughout thegalaxy, like they became like the here,
like the heroes, and became householdnames of like people knew who they

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were. So him being first ofall a Jedi, that means whether he
was directly I mean, I believehe was in the order at some point.
He may not have been a Masteror whatever, but him being a
Jedi during that time, of course, he's going to know who Anakin is.
That being said, knowing what exactlyhappened maybe a little sketchier, unless

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because right now we don't know whetheror not he had worked like underneath them,
Like what was that kind of inquisitorlooking dude, Marrick, Like he
kind of looks like an inquisitor,And we know that the inquisitors kind of
work underneath the Jedi, underneath DarthVader. So if he actually is working
with the inquisitors, then I guessthat probably might make sense if he's talking

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directly with Darth Vader. But wedon't have that connection kind of made yet,
so we're kind of jumping to conclusionshere and reading between lines that maybe
either weren't actually drawn or we're justwishful thinking that it wasn't an oversight.
But as far as him knowing whoAnakin was, I'm overall whatever. Weird,

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but it doesn't it doesn't break thebank for me. Yeah. See,
it's funny enough. I was talkingto a quark about this, who's
really heavy into Star Wars, Watsonof Clone Wars watch Olive Rebels, and
it's funny because he hadn't really thoughtabout it. It was kind of just
like when I asked him a question. He was like, huh, I
already thought about that. How doI feel about that? And I was

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telling how, you know, oneof my main grips at modern day Star
Wars and Monterey lucasfilm is that itfeels like a neighborhood far far away and
not a galaxy filled with different charactersand lore and things like that. So
does it make it smaller? Andwhat does he think of? You know,
everyone's starting to know Anakin. Wehad Reva, now we have Balin
in the next property. It's justlike, oh, yeah, that guy
Anakin who turned out to be vain. Oh yeah, you know that a

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classic chest and everyone knows about youknow, everyone, there's more and more
people Order sixty six, where itwas like at first it's like no one
survived Order sixty six, and nowit's like, oh now there's who did
they actually kill. There's so manymore Jedi and so many more people like
oh yeah, I survived, Isurvive. I survived too. Like wait

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a minute, it supposed to bethis big, devastating like genocide, Like
what's going on there? There's somany of us? I mean, is
it really a tragedy? Now,what's what's going on here? The first
episode of bad Batch talking about KananJaris from Rebels one kind of great crossover
things. You actually see the momentof Order sixty six where Kanan Jariss actually
escapes. It's pretty cool, bythe way, Yeah sick. Yeah,

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so so something that doesn't really ruinyou know, all of Star Wars for
me. But I just find Ijust find it fascinating how there's interesting story
beats that kind of uh, inmy opinion, sort of like delude to
the brand. As Baker would say, when it comes to mar you know,
so much saturation deludes the brand.When he was talking regards to Marvel,

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you know, stuffing so much,so many things into our franchise,
and it kind of kind of deludesit. So it's not ruining it for
me, but it is diluting itjust a little bit. Not that I'm
not enjoying Star Wars, but it'sjust like another person who Survivor or sixteen,
another person who said Darth Vader isanakate. Okay, more people that
know about Luke and Lee another perOkay, what are we doing here?

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But hopefully in Tales of a JediBalin Skull in SHINHATI will be flashed topic
is solfar art To me, Chrismost interesting, I mean by far in
my opinion, blowing it out ofthe water as far as like, you
know, motivation characters like like BalenSkull and Shan just overshadowing. I think
that the main cast here in myopinion, you know, I mean,

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like Harris is Sindula right, Likeeveryone's like, okay, Marrilys with the
windstad is coming into play her.I've heard some fans to be like,
Okay, well this is not reallythe same hera. You don't really know
her motivation, like a lot ofthe characters of their motivation. What's what's
going on here? I mean,she's a general, she's trying to do
her job, but she's also holdingmeetings with the council in order to investigate

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the possibility of the big batty GrandamMolthroon coming back. They found in a
facility where they're breaking down empire shipsand other things that there was a sect
of Empire loyalists who were sending offparts to a certain part of the galaxy.
And when she needs to look intoit, she holds a skype meeting

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Galactic Skype meeting to ask the NewRepublic, Oh, hey, do I
have permission as your main general togo investigate it. I'm like, go
go investigate. I would think thatwould that would merit, you know,
a general going off and finding out. But they're like, nah, it's
probably nothing. Are you sure thisisn't deployed to look for your friend?

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I'm like, what is what?Crazy? Crazy? But we do get
a cold ass line where she's justlike, hey, were you were you
around during the wars? Were youwere you and what were you doing now?
Or are you just you you justsit back seeing which side one.
I was like, damn, that'sa cold line. FLOONI was Flody was
cooking with that one doing me wrongssome critiques, But Feloni is cooking with
some stuff here. I mean,he is absolutely chef And I thought that

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was a cold line. The internetloved it too, It's already a meme.
I loved it, be man.But what do you think of the
topic of some fans from Rebels inClone Wars saying that the live action representation
of their characters aren't really what theyexpected from all the years of watching them
on screen. Well, what doyou think being a fan of Rebels and
Clone Wars? I think that thecharacter of Asoka has in Rebels has a

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bit more of a lighthearted feeling toher. Like Honestly, I think that
Harrah in this show seems to havemore of what the like vibe that Asoka
had, and that Asoka in thisshow has more of a vibe of what
of like how harr was because Harrain the show, because eventually she becomes
kind of rises a bit through theranks of the rebellion and and does follow

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orders, and a few times thatshe does break them does not do so
lightly, So I understand why shewould go to the like, you know,
do her skype meeting and figure outwhat can I do? And I
get that, but she definitely likehad more sas like open like defiance in
this than we would have seen.Like I feel like Asoka probably would have

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been a bit more open to belike yeah, let's you know, like
either talk back or like say likeyeah, we're gonna go do this because
it's the right thing to do.So that's kind of interesting. I don't
Yeah, I don't love Mary ElizabethWinstead as as Harrah, Like she's fine
then't had her do too too much. But I don't know, I just

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feel like the vibe isn't there,and a lot of the show, I
feel like a lot of the showis all about kind of bringing on the
rebels, trying to bring on therebels vibe, which is why there's like
a lot of slow, quiet moments. It's like cool, let's let's get
to the let's get to the actionnow, guys. So overall, like
again doesn't completely break it, butI do not I feel like the casting

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of Hara is maybe not the bestor just whatever the direction she got on
like on set is a little notnot quite what we got got out of
Rebels, but you know what whatever, Like that's my opinion, in the

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end, Dave Feloni is doing this, and Dave Feloni is the one who
did Rebels and Clone Wars, andit's his characters and he loves them,
so he signed off on it.So all right, but you know I
was looking forward. I mean,well, I mean in that same thing,
he's also human too, right,I mean there's uh, you know,
he could also you know, makesome mistakes. I mean he is,
I mean, he is a guywho came from the animated verse and

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he's doing live action. Sure,he's done some episodes of Mando and Bob
and stuff, but this is hisfirst big, like live action thing.
So I think he is learning lessonsas he goes along. And one of
the things I think he's learning isthat directing live action people is different than
the animated stuff, right, becauseI think he had the fortunate fortunes to
have a great staff of animators andspecial effects persons behind the scenes, people

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who are able to redo performance.Yeah exactly, yeah, redo performance,
able to emote the characters, right, So really he really didn't have to
like direct facial expression stuff that I'msure he had input. I'm sure he
was like, Okay, this iswhat the characters feeling and stuff like that,
But it really was the animators whobrought that to life, you know,
like some of the pivotal moments thatyou remember, some of the heart

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field stuff. Obviously like Foloni wroteit, and obviously Folodi, you know,
telling animators to the vibe that theyneed to get put across. But
it was the animators who put thattogether. So now he's writing live action
people, and I think from myfrom my point of view, I think
right now he's really learning a lessonof like how different animation and not having

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an animator make facial expressions and actuallygetting your actors to come across a certain
way, because there is a bigcomplaint across the Stars Fano, whether there's
rebels, fans or the general audiencethat the characters don't emote in this show,
and sometimes they feel too stiff torobotic, to droid like, and

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sometimes it's to the effect where Ithink there's a whole talk of where Asoka
is trying to be a Jedi master, so you know, the arms folded
people a contention with that, alot of staying around. But there is
a lot of scenes and I sawthis cut the other day. It almost
killed me of all the slow movingparts of the story so far in his

(30:15):
Soca, where everyone's just kind ofslow turning, slow talking, and the
dead space in between conversations, andI'm just like, this is hilarious because
there's so so much of it,because there's there lacks the George Lucas note
of you know, faster with moreintensity, you know what I mean?
And I think where we're needing thathere. The latest episode did pick it
up, but anytime the characters wastalking, especially a sooker herself, because

(30:37):
a lot of slow head turning inmethodical talk, and I'm like, can
we I feel like like like likethe Wizard of Money Python, get out
with it, Yes, get outwith it? Like come on, like
are we taking the piss here?Come on, move this thing along,
my guys. Being with the ORBkilled me. It was like five minutes

(30:59):
of her holding a gun to anORB, changing her mind several times with
her body language. But I waslike, okay, but but like,
can you just can you just doit one way or the other, Like
at this point, I'm pretty sureyou're going to hand over to him,
but can you can you just doit like that? Took so that took
so long, man, I thinkhonestly, they they could have edited episodes

(31:21):
three and four down to like one, just absolutely forty five minute episode.
That would have been like amazing.I feel like, you know, Feloni's
used to these, like writing anddirecting these half hour episodes, and now
he's probably like, ooh, Ican I can stress my legs a little
bit because I'm actually doing up fulla full on serialized story where you know,
Rebels eventually became pretty well serialized,but there was still some standalone stuff

(31:45):
and you can still you know,tell this part of a story in thirty
minutes. He's uh, you know, he's spreading his wings on this one,
and it's you know, let's don'tBoris get to the chorus. That's
what I'm saying. I don't Borisget to the or is Chris here cooking?
Because they're like, folone, let'sgo Yeah. But no, I
agree with you, Like the lasttwo episodes three and four could have been

(32:07):
put together is one, and youhave to think that maybe it was a
direction from uptop. Okay, wehere, we have Disney, plus we
gotta stretch these things out to havea certain amount of episodes. But it's
just like, you guys are incontrol of this whole thing, right,
so you can't see in the editor, you can't see behind the scenes.
Okay, what if we put thesetwo together and made like an hour long
thing. I think three and fourput together would have been a bang of

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an episode. It would have beentrending a lot more. But I think
they're trying to do these bite sizedchunks and I personally don't understand that that
direction. So so moving forward,I think, you know, I implore
the people making this stuff and putit together and those who actually do have
the final say, you know,because I think it is an executive decision,
that a felony creative decision to breakcertain things up. So it kind

(32:50):
of seems like Flone's just making likethe big chunks. He's making the story
and it's being assembly lined and sortof cut up or for consumption, you
know, because it is a businessand it is a company you know,
putting it out there. Yeah,it's that you have a certain people making
decision. It's a I think it'sa little tougher with this because it is
telling one big story as opposed toMandalorian, which, yeah, there is

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an art. There has been kindof an overarching story each season, but
for the most part, the waythat story was being told was probably like
five like there was like three orfour like full on, this is the
main story episodes, but then therewas probably like four, like four or
five episodes that were like mission ofthe week and maybe there will be like

(33:34):
little bits of unraveling a specific mystery, but overall, so you can kind
of do that, you can takeyour time with that because yeah, we're
just gonna go off and do this, but like you can't really do that
with or they haven't done that withthis show. They haven't been like,
oh, we're getting a distress calland we're gonna go check this out and
we're gonna go deal with this planetover here before we continue our mission,
which I feel like would have likeeven that, even though like I want

(33:57):
to see the story, like I'mloving the story, Uh, it probably
would have made the pacing feel alittle less jarring. Yeah, absolutely,
I mean hopefully in the future theyget that going there. So the main
story here is to get Admiral thrownback. Now, why are we bringing

(34:19):
him back? Because the empire isfraid and there are people who still believe
in its purpose. Uh, youknow, you'd find the galaxy under one
rule and apparently animal thrown to goeven though I don't know anyway, it's
like I don't know, Like what'swhat's part of the story. Well,
he was one of the top dogsin the empire, so now that they

(34:42):
know, but they like they're like, well, this dude's not dead.
Well we just lost friggin Darth Vader. We just lost the emperor, Like
who is smart enough to not justlead our group but also like make us
bigger and better than ever? Right, you to retaliate and that's Thron.
So there, it's kind of aHail Mary pass of trying to trying to

(35:06):
bring this dude back, which isweird because Asoka is trying to, you
know, stop that from happening,but also in order to stop them,
she needs to find them. Soit's that weird moment, just like just
like the freaking Indiana Jones movie whereit's like, well you're both gonna go
and do the same thing anyways,so no matter what we're ending up there.

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Yeah, it's it's so interesting,and I want to touch on something
that you said earlier instead of theAsoka Show. It sort of seems like
the Sabine Show. Right, Maybethe show should have been titled like something
with rebels and not just Asoka.But I think that's a marketing right because
she's so popular. You have astar power of Razario Dawson. But we're
really focusing a lot on Sabine.I mean, even from the get go,

(35:52):
we have, you know, thiswhole thing where there was this like
ceremony in her honor for helping defeatForce. He's of evil. Uh.
And then you know she's you knowthis this punk rocker chick who you know,
she's so bad? Like that scene, Yo, what did she What
do you think of that scene?I thought it was so cringe right,
Like Dave, like Dave Filoni,like God bless him, Like he cooks

(36:14):
with some things. But man,the guy reminds me that he's a nerd.
Dayloni reminds me that, And I'ma I'm a huge nerd to you.
But Dave Filoni, I feel likeI can take his lunch money,
give him a wedgie. I feellike I feel like like in comparison to
Day, it's so Dave Filoni.I feel like a jock and compared to
Dave Filoni because like he needs theaudience, who uh doesn't understand these characters,

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you know, the beautiful, wonderfulcreations of Sabine Randasoka. So we
have sin and you know they're lookingfor her in this like ceremony, thinking
her and you know the other peopleinvolved, and like, oh where is
she? And it cuts over tolike this uh you know jj abrams like
star Chek with like Kirk moment,you know where it's like this, uh
is space rock punk music and youknow she she's this girl who's like like

(37:00):
full of color, you know,in her hair, on her clothes,
on her bike. And we havethis like you know it's it's not an
English part. Yeah, I'm justlike bro, Dave flowing it. You're
a nerd, but I feel likeI can take your lunch trader, Bro.
Like it's such a it's such acringe thing. We're like, yeah,
it's so being wrench. She's badasking if you're a general UTITSCE member,

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you don't know her character. Look, we're playing like punk rock music
with like alien language in it,so you know that she's a fucking she
doesn't care about the rules or thelaw she's on this barren highway traveling down
with her murder. But I'm like, motorcycles without a helmet. You know
this, it's so so incredibly crazy. Hey, if you liked it,
more power to it. God blessyour soul. I think it was meant

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that scene was definitely meant to beechoing of the intro to Two Rebels.
It definitely mirrored, like there's athere's a bike chase scene on that exact
same highway. But like, yeah, we we saw that before. Like
if you're if you're trying to callback to the rebels, people like we
know that. We know that happenedbecause watch Rebels. And for those of

(38:07):
those that didn't watch Rebels, whydo we need to make this seat so
long? Is there another way andbesides oh my god, motorcycle check to
uh to convey the same information likeher, her introduction was longer than than
Asoka's. And here's here's an unpopularopinion that I'm gonna hit you all with
because they even kicking and dragon.It's like, yeah, that was a

(38:29):
good callback? Is it? Isit callbacks? These it references? Or
did Day follow when he gets thishomework assignment of making an Asoka show and
he is just biting off and copyinghis own chick. I mean, like
listen self cannibalism. I seen thisside by side where he's just recreating the
stuff that he did from Rebels andfrom Clone Wars. It's like, listen,

(38:49):
I get to the air callbacks,like like Star Wars is is not
as stranger to those things. Butwhen I'm watching people who do the cuts
this side by sides of split screens, I'm like, my managed just re
using and rehashing the stuff he's donein animation right there. I mean,
is that creativity from mister saving StarWars or is just the guy who was

(39:12):
just like, well, now thatI have a chance to do it live
action, I'm gonna do it liveaction. But brother, like people have
already seen this, and for thepeople who haven't, like once they find
out, like myself, like yousee the split screens, going, oh
buddy, could you not think ofa new scene? I mean you have
like since of being when she putson her men luring armor, she's walking
down the steps, she goes upto the mural and it's the same thing

(39:35):
from the animated series. You know, like as a Soca showing up on
my buddy, like, why areyou? Why are you redoing what you
are? What you already did?You have a new homework assignment? Their
pal? I mean, I meanhot dog, hot dog, diggity dog,
Buddy, buddy, old pal,mister, mister saved Star Wars?
What's going on? I mean tome, I'm just like wow, Like
I imagine myself if I was inthe role of Dave Filoni and I would

(40:00):
trenched the Star Wars right. Igot to make Rebels, I got to
make my own characters that people knowand love Asoka blew up popularity, and
now I have the chance for liveaction me personally as a creative, as
someone who does work in production,someone who does film an edit, like,
I'm not doing the same shit thatyou saw me do before. I'm
not going to take that risk ofof either the higher ups or people my

(40:22):
peers who see my work being likelike yo, coyote, certain like why
are you doing the same things youdo? Built Like like are you are
you checked out? Are you well? What's what's going on here? Buddy?
We already saw this already. Whyare you repeating that same thing?
Wasted so much time? It's itwasted so many times and in my and

(40:42):
in my view of the deciard,in my view, I think that time
could have been spent with new,fresh ideas, moving the story along,
getting us to where we need togo faster, and Monty Python get on
with it, you know, notsaying the guy, the guy you know
isn't talented, seeing the guy doesn'tknow what he's doing. But there is

(41:02):
this air to the empire. There'sthis air. And I gotta call out
the fan base, right, thereal staunch rebels clon Werce fan base,
y'all give Dave Foloni a pass.Y'all glaze this man head, y'all glazed
Dave Foloni, Oh my god?Like easy creative? Yes, has he
done some cool stuff? Yeah,But I mean if your guy's repeating the

(41:23):
same thing, I mean, isit real creativity? Is it real?
Mister safe star Wars. I mean, let's be real. Let's be real
here. If your friends were taskedwith creating a new property something for you
know, like the age is somethingthat should get the people going, and
they just copy paste some of thestuff they did, It's just like,
yo, buddy, why are youwhy are you doing that? I don't

(41:44):
know. Like if I was taskedwith doing that, my peers were like,
you've seen that already. I mean, hell, like, whenever I
edit packages and stuff, I don'tuse the same shots I did before or
trying to use different techniques. I'mnot trying to you know, I have
like a stagnant thing that you're watching. I mean, even if if I
do like a follow up story,I'm not doing the same shots. I'm
trying to make it fresh. I'mtrying to make it different. I'm trying

(42:06):
to give you something you haven't seenbefore. You know, if it is
an update on the story, Iwant you to be able to see that
it's an update. And instead ofyou being confused, like wait a minute,
do we see these same shots beforeand the last thing? Is this
an update? Are you just droppingface? Why am I watching the same
thing? Because when people watch thesame thing, they get or that's why
we change and switch things up aslike, trust me, bro, I
work in production. You know,people tune into something and they see the

(42:28):
same thing, they get more.They're just like, Okay, we've seen
it already. That's cool, ButKim, we moved the story along.
Please. I would love to seeGrand Admiral thron now soon. I think,
what if he did a bold thingin Lucas Film Disney plus Marvel,
if we didn't wait till the latterepisodes to get to the meat potatoes of

(42:53):
the story. People came to seethe advertising with Grand the animal Throne,
the advertiser with getting what if wewere what if we were? Oh man,
this might sound crazy, might thismight sound like I'm just coming after
you. What if we were creativeenough to be able to get to those

(43:14):
beats earlier and still have a showafter instead of doing that stuff later and
then waiting until we have to consumenext product. Okay, because I'm a
big fan Chris of get the storyout, now, tell the story now?
I hate this in gaming in DLC'sPart twos, whatever whatnot? Like,

(43:37):
hey, continuation in the next thing, Like we're not doing that?
You know, TV shows, moviescontinued in the next thing for movies like
into the Spider Verse. You know, it makes sense why there's a third
movie coming out. There is somuch happening in that fantastic, amazing movie
that is impossible to not make itfour hours long, you know, because

(44:00):
it's telling a huge creative story.Of course, it has to be a
next one, another Spider Verse movie. But they did a good job at
the first one, sort of makinga whole coherent story, and then said,
okay, we can make another onethat sounds good. So here,
I get that we have a streamingservice. I get that we have people
that need to subscribe and watch,but man, I'm tired of being led

(44:22):
onto. Okay, this is thisgoing to lead us to consume nixt product,
Please wait till this concludes in thenext thing. I'm a big fan
of tell your story now, peopleare watching, now, people are interested.
Now, same thing I said withthe Game of Throne's House of the
Dragon. I thought it was great. I thought it was good. It
does leave off for a second season, but I think for the most part

(44:45):
they told a coherent story. ButI'm like you guys, waited to see
if audience would like it. Ifyou believe in your story, you thought
it was good, continue on.So now we have to wait like another
like two years to get the nextseason of that thing. A bigger pointed
of show us the story, now, give it to us things today,
like you aren't going to get asequel tomorrow. Exactly and then crazy idea,

(45:07):
crazy idea, I know, becreative enough to have more story afterwards.
You have the talent, you havethe people. We can still get
to the point up front and giveus kids. I mean, this slow
burn, man, it's killing alot of people. Slow burns really getting
a lot of people checked out ofthe show, you know. And again
I'm enjoying the show, but someof the slow burn, the slow head

(45:30):
turns. The dialogue, I mean, episode three, it was anime filler,
you know, like that could havebeen cut with this one. But
man, let's talk about the mostrecent episode, man, I mean,
holy crap, we got a wholebunch of stuff in here. So we
find out that there is a big, gigantic device being made the Eye of
Ssion not to be confused, Eyeof Sara, being made in order to

(45:52):
get Grandamaton. It looks like oneof those like, yeah, essentially,
you know, it looks one ofthose big you know, like like drives
that the Jedi used to propel themselvesfor the galaxy with their Jedi fighters.
So it looks like that thing onsteroids to get grandmal Animal thrown ship the
kimeraback. So we find out that'swhat the Empire. Empire sympathizers were doing

(46:15):
in that deconstruction shipyard. They weretaking down drives, they were taking down
certain things and materials that they needand huge engines in order to build this
thing to get animal thrown back.So we get there, we find a
holy crap, this this is amistake. They're going to bring thrownback of
this thing. This is insane.We have to got to stop this thing.
So we had this. We hadthis great Jedi uh moment with Aska

(46:37):
where she's being chased by Shinhatien inthe Inner Fighter. They sort of get
disabled in their ship and Ahsoka putson a space gets out in their ship
and it starts deflecting ship lasers.That just happened. I was like,
what, but our aren't the shiplasers? I mean conjed, I mean,

(47:01):
it's it's the other It happened inin in the Kenobi show too,
where the speeders we're firing at Revaand she was deflecting their fire, Like,
are the those things meant to gofrom ship to ship? I mean
a Jedi hitting those back? Mean, wouldn't that like has some crazy rick
is shared? Sure, I don'tknow, I mean for story taking convenience.

(47:22):
It's cool, it looks cool.But aren't those ledgers meant for other
ships and to breach other ships anddestroy them. So if they're able to
punch through shields and a ship's hulla Jedi deflect, I don't know,
it seems like a lot of alot of punch there. Well, we
got we got a live action shopper. Let's not worry. Let's not split
hairs here. I'm very happy aboutthe live action shoppers. Worry about that.

(47:45):
We got her flipping around in spacehot or about there? We got
she have grab boots ee. Thatdoesn't matter. That's cool, Yeah,
that doesn't matter. It's it's StarWars. They go down on a very
cool planet. Also look a likelike listen, like, y'all are biding
a lot from j J Abrams.Here we have the James Tibeer's Kirk moment,

(48:06):
you know, and now we havethe Star Trek planet. We have
this big red fours yea from theStar Trek into Darkness? Is j J
there in the back rod like nodicgoal? Do we saw those assets from
that Star Trek movie that I name, you know, I'm in the Star
Wars family. You guys can usethat here you go. Just okay,

(48:27):
okay, brother Felonia, I seeyou out there, man biding not only
your own style, but the othercreatives as well, mister Star Wars creatible.
Oh man, I think it's great. So we get down to to
this planet, we get shot down, and we have this cool moment where
you know, sis A Bean andah Soca sort of have to come together,
right, put their differences aside,you know, whatever animosity they have

(48:51):
between each other to try to getEzrabec. This is their closest chance.
They have to get down to theplanet. They have to get to where
this map is to his location,and they have to go through these these
dark Jedi and Morgan in order toin order to get it. So Balin's
skull since out SHINHATI to go andretrieve it. He is guarding the mcguffin

(49:13):
map, and we got a prettycool cool fight scene here with Sabine and
Shin and Balin and Ahsoka. Now, Chris, here's here's the question I
got for you and from the rebelsfans. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
How proficient in Jedi lightsaber combat isSabine ren because she was trained by

(49:35):
a Jedi, but how proficient isshe? How much training has she had?
So she actually has had She's actuallybeen trained in lightsabers from several Jedi
at this point, actually because partof the story of Rebels is that they
end up on Dathamere and she endsup finding the Dark Saber, and because

(49:59):
the Dark Sab was wielded by aMandalorian, she actually has the Dark Saber
for quite a while, and Kanan, who had been teaching Ezra, decides
that if she has the Dark Saber, she should probably learn how to use
it properly. So there's a wholething where she they're trying to teach her
as you know, using a Jeditechnique, and she's just not having it.

(50:22):
And then another another Mandalorian who's withthem is like, hey, like,
you're a Mandalorian. I get thatit's a lightsaber, but you got
to fight like a Mandalorian. Soshe kind of is. So she starts
to kick some ass when she kindof combines the two different a little bit
more of the two different styles,like being careful because it is a freaking

(50:43):
lightsaber, but also being able tolean on the Milliondalorian stuff, so ay,
she's had some training already on usingthe Dark Saber. She ends up
actually handing the Dark Saber, sayto Bokatan later, and then of course
we know that she has joined withthat or that Asoka has taken her under

(51:04):
her wing. And one thing Ido want to talk about is I actually
kind of like this idea that we'reseeing someone that's trying to be a Jedi
but not doing a very good jobat it, because we're so used to
seeing these folks that just have likean innate talent. They come into it
and they just like pick up theForce and they're killing it, and they're
like, yeah, this guy's justimmediately Jedi. It's kind of cool.

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That's the two cool things that Jedithings that we're getting at the moment.
One is, okay, let's seesomeone that isn't a depth with the Force
that's trying to follow at least someof the Jedi path, and then also
let's see some dark Jedi. Theseare two real cool things that that Asoka
is bringing us. So I getthat, like Sabin actually is pretty proficient
in a lot of different weapons.That is part of her character, so

(51:51):
it's not unheard of that she cankind of hold her own. She's not
the greatest at it, but she'salso not starting from zero. She's not
like like you know John Boyega fromthe Force Awakens, who just picks it
up and just haphazardly. It's like, oh my god, what do I
do with this thing? Yeah?I asked it because it seems like for
some reason, we're we're we're Whywere you training Sabine with with the lightsaber?

(52:15):
I mean she she used the darksaber, right, and she was
I would say, what, like, what was he like mid tier to
proficient with it with a dark saber? I mean? And there's also that
green dark saber, I mean thatgreen lightsaber she has apparently from from somewhere
like where where what does that comefrom? That's Ezra's lightsaber. So she

(52:37):
uh so she had the dark saberlost, gave the dark Saber away.
The lightsaber she's doing now is actuallyEzra's lightsaber, sorry, Ezra's second lightsaber.
So. Ezra actually had originally madethis kind of crazy lightsaber that also
was like a blaster as well,but he lost that in a fight with
the Grand Inquisitor, and then whenhe came back that was like a season

(53:00):
finale when he came back, hehad a green lightsaber, so another one
that he had built, and heactually gave being that lightsaber before because he
knew that in order for his planto work, he had to he had
to get taken away with the Pergolalong with Thrown, So he actually gave
her the lightsaber, so not hisnot so that was his lightsaber that he

(53:20):
gave to her. So that's whatshe has been using. Interesting now,
because it seems like in the showthat she hasn't used it for some time,
like some some years, right,I mean that's what they allude to,
that she hasn't really picked it up. She sort of like kept it
in a trunk, you know,along with her. The last communication looks
like, so let's talk about thetimes in a little bit, because I
think that's important about So we're now, so this is taking place after the

(53:43):
events of Mandalorian season two, right, So that Mandalorian season one takes place
three years after returned the Jedi,and then I believe season two and three
are like two years after our likean additional two years after that, and
Rebels kind of takes place pretty muchleading up to the Battle of Yaben and

(54:10):
or rather than you know, Rogueone leading up to that stuff. So
we're talking about probably like a whata six to eight year span something along
those lines between between the end ofRebels and where we are now. So
then between that time, clearly shehad been training with Ahsoka, but also

(54:34):
it's been a while since she's beenwith Asoka, so she hasn't touched that
lightsaber in a while, and sheis she is gonna be kind of rusty.
Yeah, So from so sixty eightyears and then it seems like you
have behind the scenes of off cameraoff of the season, Ahsoka kind of
took around her wing to train herbecause she called her, you know,
her master and stuff like that,and apparently something happened between them and it

(54:55):
just didn't work out. You know. She was, I guess it too
sad about as Rosy. She wassmoking about in her tower, Kake eating
dragon whater Bratt sitting on one ofthe best weapons in the galaxy. And
just let's say collect does because shesaid her friend's gone bro her not love
interests sort of love interest, butDave Filoni said people can have relationships without
being in love with each other andstuff like that, but it seems like
there's a little bit more there.But he's also saying that that's not I

(55:20):
don't know whatever. So I askedthat to say, in that amount of
time, wherever in part of thegalaxy, there was Balin Skull in Shinhati,
right like Balin Obviously he said heknew Anakin, he was a part
of the Order, he was aJedi. He's very proficient. I mean,
this guy is a tank dude.I mean he's he's a huge,
big old like looks like an oldschool night. You know. I love

(55:42):
the references to what George Lucas sortof bass Star wars off on. You
know that Kira course, sawas Samuraimovies, the spaghetti westerns, the cereals,
you know, like Knights of theRound Tables, hints that I Night
and some of the things here youknow, your your Space Wizards, that
whole thing of Merlin and Camelot,you know everything that he loved growing up
to see. So along that lineyou had Bilin Skull, who somewhere along

(56:05):
the line found Shinhati. His PaddlewanLearner trained her in the ways of the
Force, trained her in ways ofthe Sabers. So she's a very proficient
force user. I mean earlier onthe series, we see that when he
was breaking up Morgan, he wentdown to the brig to go get Morgan
himself, and he sent her tothe bridge. He sent her to their

(56:28):
brains, the operation of the ship, where there's going to be the most
security, the most heavies, andthe commanding officers. He was like,
okay, a print, paddawan,you go up there and I'll go downstairs
and I'll break out, because youknow there's gonna be some heavy security down
there within the brig. But yeah, you're you're a badass. You can
you could end SHINHATI went in thereand she wrest shot just just with a

(56:53):
plug. She wasn't even looking insome of the directions. She was just
deflecting Sabers force pushing, just murderedan entire bridge. Hell, even when
she landed on the ship and BalinSkull was talking to the commander there,
she went off immediately just destroyed everybodyaround the commander and Balin and went on

(57:13):
her way. He sent her upstairs. So she is a bad I love
her character. So far, Avanawho's playing her, is doing a bang
up job. Sort reminds you ofGrimes a little bit, and I seet
it to say. You know,so, she's tasked now in this episode
with keeping Asoka and her ill herlot away from the map. Right,

(57:34):
this map, this ancient thing hasto sort of beam its coordinates up to
the eye of sign above the planetso they can get those precise coordinates so
they can jump over to thrown again. Because if you don't have precise coordinates
in Star Wars, then bad thingsgonna happen. You can end up in
the middle of a planet or whatever, even though the Rise of Skywalker just
blew it out of the water,just didn't care about it. Whatever.
So she's off to go destroy them, right, She's not. Chinahati is

(57:59):
not off to go toy with SabineWren. She's not off to play kate
her her master sent her stop themfrom coming here. You know it that
we just destroyed a ton of people. We've been doing this whole time.
We've been working as mercenaries this entiretime. So my four sensitive, my
more than capital badass destroying killing peopleapprentice is going up to and up with

(58:28):
a Mandalorian who has had some trainingwith a lightsaber but hasn't used it in
years. And this person, SabinWren, is able to keep up with
shinhat a dark Jedi mercenary who's beenproficiently working this entire time, while Sabine
hasn't touched a saber. And whilehu Yang, the android who's been around

(58:50):
for what a thousand years plus,has trained Jedi. He even told Sabine
and told Ahsoka to their face.Yeah, so being not a good I've
trained thousands of Jedi, she's nota good candidate, should be the worst
candidate for the Jedi order. She'snot forced sensitive. I've trained thousands of
Jedi. I've been around for athousand years plus. She just doesn't cut
the mustard. But she's able togo up against Shinhati. I'm like folowing

(59:15):
Man. Listen. Listen, Listen, listen, listen listening. Star Wars
is a lift in world. It'sa believed in world. We love it
because we can believe in it.Right, how am I supposed to believe
that Sabine Ran. It's also aquestion, your Chris, how is Sabine
Ran able to go up against Shinhati? And let me just say for all

(59:36):
the fans out there. Oh no, so Shinhati is playing with her torn
with there, No shut up,idiot, No she wasn't. Balin Skulls
said go stop them. There isnothing Shin needs from Sabine whatsoever, or
Soca Asoka and Sabine are there tostop them from getting too thrown Dude,

(59:58):
they're going to stop them, toget the artifact and go do it themselves.
Go off in their own thing,right, Morgan has a directive stop
them. We're gonna go do everything. We're gonna bring thrown back whatever.
So people talking about, oh,well Shiton was touring with her. Oh
it doesn't really want to kill her, that's all cap. You guys are
watching a different show. This isthe glaze. This is the floated glaze.

(01:00:20):
I'm talking about the glaze in thisman because it makes no sense.
The only way it makes sense isthat you, unfortunately have to break their
fourth wall and think, well,only just needs his beautiful, wonderful character
creation to look cool and to havea cool moment. So he's fighting up
against another, you know, anothercombatant with the saber that she has Ezra,

(01:00:45):
and so what it makes it Itdoesn't make sense within universe. I'm
sorry, so like it's it's justit's ridiculous. Its ridiculous. I mean,
I mean, I mean, Chris, am I crazy. You might
have a different take on this,but do you see Sabine keeping up with
Shin. She did lose the fight, but if we watched that fight,
I've watched the fight multiple times.She's going up to Shin. They're fighting

(01:01:07):
each other. She's proficient in sabercombat, which she goes up against Shinhati,
who's in Dark Jedi Mercenary, who'sbeen doing this thing for a long
time. She ticked out a wholebridge, she ticked out a bunch of
people. She stormed, She damnMary like Bamin didn't even to be there.
She stormed a whole republic ship,like a capital class ship, herself
essentially, and Sabina and who hasn'ttouched a lightsaber in years, He's like,

(01:01:30):
no, yeah, I can fightyou. Yeah. I mean,
I mean, I would say shepretty much lost the lightsaber fight, but
it wasn't her proficion to be thelifesaber that actually won. She had to
throw some Mandalorian shit to to knockher down. That's my one thing,
am I saying is completely plausible.I mean it's a stretch. That's fine.

(01:01:52):
I'm not whatever, but I don'tthink it's like she's not helpless.
She's probably has like ten years onthis Padawan of like fighting experience. So
yeah, she's not good with lightsaber, but then she used her Mandalorian like
what she shot her in the facewith like the smoke or something like that
to knock her down, and likethat's what actually really ended the fight.

(01:02:13):
Yeah, she she used her herMando stuff, which I agree she should
used more Hermando things. I don'tknow why we're training her to Jedi when
as a Mandalorian they're trained to takedown Jedi and they had her own.
She has her own, like hercool stuff. She's a proficient engineer,
right, She's like sort of agenius in that regard. Right, She's
a more than capable Mando. I'mlike, I wanted to see a Mando
her as a Mando fight. Butlike she breaks out the lightsaber and you

(01:02:36):
know, so before that moment ofher shooting the face and stuff, before
her using Hermando stuff, she wasgoing tote toe with which Masion hate,
Like, like, what's she doingsomething Anakin flips. Now you know what's
she doing? Somebo we want flourishesnow. But they were going, like
if you watch it back, theywere going peretty neck and neck with each
other, and then you see offthe distance Ashoka Asoka taking down Marrow,

(01:02:59):
which I so funny, so funPeople were just like like theorizing who that
character was. I'm like, that'snoboddy. What are you talking about?
It doesn't matter, it's just crazy. It's stark killer. I'm like,
wow, why are you thinking it'sanyone? It's no, he doesn't have
a face. He's gonna die.Yeah, and I try to be no
one. We're gonna bring up Iwas gonna say, I will say.

(01:03:20):
I am confused why they decided thatSabine was training under the Jedi arts at
all. I don't think they've givenus a good enough justification for like,
yeah this is why, So Idon't I'm hoping we get something more tangible
than we've gotten already, because likealso, like Asoka left the Jedi Order,

(01:03:43):
and like while she's trained as aJedi, she's not really a Jedi,
so why is she trying to teachsomeone who is also not a Jedi.
Also when she was training under anotherJedi specifically specifically was like, yeah,
I don't I don't want to dothat as a Jedi, Like I'm
a Mandalorian. I want to fightlike a Mandalorian. So confused. I

(01:04:05):
don't know if they're gonna tighten thatup at all. But at the moment,
it's just like, okay, wellbut but why yeah, that's the
hard killed a swallow At the momentagain, there's still time to justify it.
But at the moment, it's alittle weird. And wasn't it a

(01:04:26):
line she said something about, youknow, I want to fight like a
Mandel. Wasn't that something that shesaid? She's yeah, she said something
along those lines because she I meanshe was. Her mom was like a
high up on Mandalorian as well.She has always trained as a Mandalorian,
was an engineer. She did everythingfor all intensive purpose. She's the Mandalorian.

(01:04:46):
But yeah, I'm just curious whythis is necessary and maybe we'll get
a good reason of of why itis, but also maybe we won't.
We did that. He's so terrible. It's just like, no, but
we just wanted to to be havea cool moment. We need more Jedi
cool. Yeah, we need moreJedi so it looks cool. Every everyone

(01:05:09):
has a force. Everyone everyone hasa force. Everyone's proficient. You just
gotta train. It's fine. We'rejust gonna recreate all the moments from Star
Wars and just put it in here. You know, we got the you
know, l Luke training with thewith the with the helmet, with the
blaster shield over. We got thesame thing going on here. We got
the space the space battle dog fightwith with Han Solo and Luke. Ok

(01:05:29):
now, like, oh I gotone. He don't get too cocky,
kid. We got that going onhere, except the line delivery is not
as great. He did it socolored board During that, She's like,
all right, that's great. Allright, So Bean, what do you
what do you need from me?Okay? Great? Like yeah, just
keep shooting him all right. I'mlike, what is that? Why is
this such a weird direction? She'sso strange. She was a much more
engaging teacher in the Clone Wars.Yeah, so so strange but cool.

(01:05:54):
Cool moments like down there on theRed Star trek into Darkness planet there so
sooka dispatches Marr, which it's sofunny. Everyone was just sort of thinking
there was somebody gets gets the dathof mirror, smoke comes out, so
we had some dath of mirror andwhich match going on there? She runs
off ahead to go to the starmaps Bean and Shinti are still going at

(01:06:15):
it, and she's real quick whenshe dispatches Marek. It's very reminiscent of
how Obi Wan took out took outMall at the end, same thing like
one strike build up, just boom, one strike and done. And it
was like all right, she pickedup some tricks along. You see the

(01:06:35):
and you see the smoke come outof him, kind of like Svago Press
when he was just like again,it's a moment where Feloni is just doing
the hits right, He's plays playinga cosy gays. Remember this one and
now for my my famous hits.So you guys like that one? It
cars like yes, we love it, Floni and closing with free bird right

(01:06:58):
now incredible on gray job, Ohmy god. So it's Akay gets over
to Bayalin and man, I lovethis fight and I love this whole scene
with Balin and Ahsoka hats off likethis is what this is the taste the
season that I was waiting for.I feel like this is a taste you're
waiting for. You know. Wehave this interesting conversation with Balin, like

(01:07:19):
doesn't seem like like like a badguy. Seems very pragmatic, which is
why Ashoka tries asker, tries talkingto him like, hey, you seem
like a reasonable guy. You wouldthrow the whole galaxy into chaos by bringing
Admiral thromback. You would start war. And he's like, I won't start
war, that key will. Butthere's you know, he's a means to

(01:07:40):
an end, and you're like,wait, but let's watch it. And
I like that mystery of like whatdoes he mean? Like what is what
is Bland's goal here? Because hejust kind of acknowledged that yes, war
will come, Yes, like darktimes might happen again because of Throng coming
back. But he's like there's areason why. And he doesn't seem too
batter. Maybe when he's talking toMorgan and uh, you know she sends

(01:08:03):
him down to go up against Asokaand and you know, destroy her essentially,
he's just like, know, youknow, there's very few of us
left, and she's like oh sentimental, Oh no, truth the guy.
I love the character he's not misterevil, bad guy henchman. He has
some flavoring to him, you know, And I think it's so great samething
with Shin. She seems so unsureabout Morgan, and every time Morgan gives

(01:08:27):
an order, she looks at Balmlike, Master, what are we what
are we doing with this lady?I mean, you know, we can
just kill her. We don't haveto listen to this, like, what's
what's going on here? And uh? And there's something interesting going on there
with Shin, like you know,there's some thought behind her eyes. But
nevertheless she does when her master tellsher. So Asoka shows up and they
have this you know, this thislittle conversation and then they start into the

(01:08:48):
battle because Belin's like, listen,I can't let you through right, like
join me or get out of myway. So they start having this lights
of her battle man like the forms. This the the George Lucas throwback to
what he was basing stars off ofthe Samurai movements. The different forms of
the sabers absolutely on display, Asokausing one saber in which people are like,

(01:09:11):
oh, like she respected him anddidn't use two, knows because he's
a strong opponent, and it's betterto use one than focus for energy and
her power using one saber than two. If you played any games, you
know that you know the double saberis lesser. It's built for multiple enemies
and great for dispatching blasters, butone saber is always more powerful. So
it wasn't respected. It was like, this guy's a problem. This guy's

(01:09:34):
a problem, and I need todeal with them. And man, like,
what do you think of this wholescene? Dude? I loved it.
Like what was your reaction when youwere watching it? This whole episode
was just a great episode for Balin, where it's like this guy is he
feels like he knows what he's doing, he knows what his mission is,

(01:09:56):
but he doesn't feel like completely uncaringabout anything else, right, Like it
seems like he knows he's got todo something and he knows the weight of
it. I just think he's suchan interesting character, and I feel like
one of the reasons we're gravitating tohim, he's a lot of the other
characters, like we know their backstoriesthrough other means, but Balin we don't.
And he doesn't seem like a traditionaljust like Evil for no reason,

(01:10:19):
and he doesn't. He doesn't.You're right, he doesn't seem evil.
He just is like he knows whathe's got to do and it's not great,
but he's in it. Yeah,I mean he knows how to manipulate
people. Clearly, he's like tryingto read people's minds half the time.

(01:10:39):
He seems like a guy, youknow. He tells Sabine like, you
give me this orb, I'm gonnaI'm you're I'm gonna protect you that,
like nothing's gonna happen to you,and you feel like he means it.
He's not just doing whatever he needsto, he's actually owning up to his
word. Just really great acting,really cool character. I am. I

(01:11:00):
do want to see more of him, figure out like how did you get
this way? What was your rolein the Jedi Order before this? Like
is he someone who's an inquisitor?Pretty much? All the inquisitors have those
crazy spinning circle he lightsabers and hedoesn't, so I feel like he's not
quite with them. And again itseems like he's still following some parts of

(01:11:21):
the Jedi Order. It's it's justsuper interesting and a cool and different take
on the Jedi. So loving it. I want to see more. I
really love the dude's hair and beardas well. It's on point. Ray
Stevens voice is killer. Everything aboutthis character is perfect, absolutely incredible that

(01:11:43):
he's such a menacing character. Hejust towers over Ahsoka, you know,
like towers over Morkan. He's thisbig, broad guy. Even like his
fighting style is just so like it'salmost like he's wheeling like a broad sword,
like like an English night you know. Yeah, like like like his
lightsabers on like the hardest like setting, you know, because every time like
he swings, it just feels likethere there's a power there and a force
and owing Asoka, who's you know, she loves battle, you know,

(01:12:06):
she she revels that someone has asmirk when she's fighting him. She knows
how to deal with things like that. And just like Yoda said, it's
not about size, It's not aboutthis. It's you know, like through
through the force, you can wieldcertain things and be able to go up
again speak opponents like that. Andthere's an interesting little little tidbit, uh
that we get here where Ray Stevensonyou know talks, I mean where Balin's

(01:12:26):
skull sort of talks about Anakin.He's like, oh, Anakin spoke highly
of you, Katada YadA, Andthen there's a part where they cross sabers
and he's just like, your legacy, just like your master's is one of
you know, like like like Iforgot to say, it's being a like
destruction and dormlow whatever. He's justlike, bro, like you're like you
in my way is what's going tobring the downfall of everything, and you
yourself have been a part of theseAnd I was like, oh, what

(01:12:49):
is this. He's like challenger onher ideals and what she's done and what's
and what there is to be.And I really like that that part of
the flat because it just gets intothe head. And Balin seems to have
this power where he can get intoyour head and sort of see your turmoil
and see it use against you becausehe sort of poses his eyes for money

(01:13:10):
and he sees Anikin, he seesthe regret that she has, like maybe
if she didn't leave, Anakin mightnot have fallen. Maybe she could have
been there in his lonely times.Maybe she could have been there, you
know, to be his snips,to be his you know, the right
hand, you know who knows.I mean, she does have that regret
in her. So he's like usingthat against her, you know, because
as as a former Jedi, she'snot going to use her anger. I
mean it does come out every sooften because she's no longer Jedi, but

(01:13:33):
you know, she's still uses someof the teachings. So but for him,
it'll fuel it. He makes itmakes no difference. And you see,
uh, you know, like Shinshow up and then Alsoka sort of
lose it. She's just like,oh no, like if Shin's here,
that means that Sabine's gone. Andthen she kind of uses her rage to

(01:13:54):
just freeze Shin in her tracks,sort of a Kylo freeze, you know,
when Balin tells her to get themap and flings her up against a
rock wall and oh my god,this knocks her out. I was like,
gosh damn. When Ahsoka uses herfeelings like that, holy guy,
she's powerful because like she Shin's prettystrong too. Byska is like, nah,
I'm your senior. Get get thiswork, get absolutely handled. Holy.

(01:14:19):
One interesting thing about Asoka is thatshe because she was trained like Anakin,
she has a lot of similar traitsas far as like bending the rules,
maybe using her anger more than sheshould. Things like that, And
like when when she sees Anakin,it's like or like he finds out what
happens to him, it's like,whoa that like could have been me,
like real easily. The only reasonshe left the Jedi Order was because she

(01:14:42):
got screwed over where she was framedfor murder and then she had to go
on the run. The Jedi Orderwas after her and didn't believe when she
said it wasn't me. I wasframed. That's why she ended up leaving
the Order. But she's like seeingall this stuff going down to me like,
yeah, that that could have veryeasily been me. That's the guy
that that taught me. That's theguy who I model, Like, that's
how I resolve issues is the sameway. So like, clearly Anakin is

(01:15:08):
obviously a sore spot because she seesa lot of that in herself. But
which is why you see you seethe rage come up every once in a
while, because that's kind of howshe was taught to give a little extra
boost. It's crazy, we've seenthat moment, the moment was sick where
it was already like and that's thething when it was already emoated. When
she's like even when she's going upagainst Bailin, when he's like taunting her,

(01:15:29):
and you see it come out witha Feras was like, yes,
there we go. There's this seasoningon this chicken we've been wanting here.
I mean that fling was just like, gotcha, Oh my gosh, she
tossed her so hard. I waslike, oh I felt that one.
Bro. I was just like Katy. I was like her. You think
she's like Katy, get her,show her, show her what's up,
show her what the force really is. And even Ship was like oh,

(01:15:59):
but then Sabine, let's show upto being dust shop. She's like,
oh, Saban's alive. And shegrabs a map and she's like, from
Soka, I'm gonna destroy the map. I'm shooting it. And you see
Asoka like do it, do whatmust be done, because that's Asoka.
Do what must be done for thegreater good. Destroy that map. It's
Sela dar sorry to the fire,toss the ringing to the fire, rand

(01:16:20):
the mountain doom, you know,and you see her the struggle she has,
and and it kind of goes whenyou said to that earlier like it
takes a while for her, andshe's tussling with it because you kind of
see she's like, well, thisis the way to you know, my
buddy, Ezra, my not loverelation religion, you know, because you
go that hard for her friend.Uh, it's like Sabine, so it's

(01:16:42):
the bean as a whole was veryhard to get along with. So like
she when she finally got along withEzra, it's like, all right,
that's a brother, I would say. You know, it's it's a line
between whether it's like my brother ormy boyfriend, can't really tell. But
but that's why she's she's so adamant. It's like it's like that fine line
of they like like each other,but it's not really in the in the
cards for them or something like that, like they're afraid to go through with

(01:17:03):
it because they're friends the type deal. All I'm saying is if we get
like another like Rise of Skywalker endingwith how that all resolved, I'm gonna
but whatever, it's a rail ofyeah, uh yeah, like this is
Sabine, Ezra likes Sezra. Imean, listen, if it happens whatever,

(01:17:24):
but like, oh my god,I hated that and anyways, oh
man anyway, so so so Bale'sjust like gotcha. And then he just
like hits a sooka off of thecliff, just like one one swoop,
just just powers it, just usesthe force he can in his saber and
just knocks her off. And man, this is such such a Disney Star

(01:17:45):
Wars thing that that slash. Imean, my god, we're where we're
so afraid of people losing limbs,of their getting any sort of mortal whatever.
The way he slashes her with thatsaber like he hits her saber,
but it's he's so big. Hissaber is so big that swing it hits
no other part of a soca,just her saying like okay, all right,

(01:18:06):
what everybody anyway, and she shegoes off the clip like like Saban's
like no Soca, you know,kind of like kind of a Darth moment.
And then Balin turns around and sinceit Bean doesn't one of the dumbest
things you can do to a forceduser to lights but you just starts shooting

(01:18:27):
him. But they're black and heactually the way he moved was so it
was like a terminator, dude,the way he was moving his lightsaber deflecting
her blast and just slowly walking towardsMy god, that was incredibly terrifying.
Girl. I was like, thisguy is an animal. Let's go bailin.
And she's like, okay, letme stop shooting for a second.

(01:18:47):
Then he talks to her. He'sjust like hmmm, I sense and he
goes into her mind sort of likeyou know, like like like a dark
Jedi sort of like stiff move,you know, like we'd be seen it
with Kylo Ren where he goes intoDamon's mind and he sort of like you
know, sees where things are,like plays on the weaknesses even even with
with ray and rays it back tohim. Uh. He's like, hmm,

(01:19:09):
you're your faith for your friend.Like listen, if you work with
me, come with me willingly,like I'll you'll see your friend again.
You'll see Ezra. He's out there, he's with drawn. Let's let's let's
do it, you know, andno harm will come to you, I
promise you. And I was like, damn, like and and you can
you can feel that he's being sincereright, like he's not he's not a
menia because she kind of sees thattoo. She's like, well, this

(01:19:30):
is my only option. Sure,And were you surprised that Sabine gave it
to him? No? What wasit? Was that a shocker for you
or was it like a gas momentfor you? Or were you like?
I mean, I think it makessense because like what would have happened if
she destroyed the thing, then hewould have just murdered her because there's nothing
that she had that he needed anymoreand would have been bested like that was

(01:19:56):
she would have given away he wentbargaining ship and like her main goal here
in all that, she doesn't reallycare about thrown. She wants Ezra back.
So it's either she hands it overbecause she's not escaping, or she
loses Ezra. So you know thatwas of course what was gonna happen.

(01:20:17):
Yeah, I mean it fans acrossthe Star Wars fandom were shot. They're
like, my Sabine, what andit's just like, damn, surely wants
an Ezra back. W Ezra,I man has another galaxy and got her
stuck. My man, my man, my boy. We'll do something over
there. So he puts he putsthe map back in there. It gets

(01:20:41):
a coordinates up to the eyes SIon Morgan's like, oh great, uh,
you know, Balin has rectified thesituation. Okay, send a shuttle
down for him. He's like,all right, let's go destroys the map.
Well before he does that, shouldn'tlike she she revives in the background
and you see somebody start choking inthere. Shouldn't like you freaking did use
you got the best to me?How using your little Mendalorian tricks? Huh?

(01:21:03):
How you like this? And Iwas like, waited, why didn't
she do that earlier anyway? Becauseyou know it would have been too convenient
anyway, because we wouldn't have hada scene if you and again breaking the
follow me. Man, there's somany fourth while breaking things where it's like,
okay, this works if you thinkabout your script needing its work anyway,
starts choking her, and Balin's like, hey, shouldn't release release her?

(01:21:26):
Stop it stop? We need Igave her my word, you know.
It's kind of Wolverine talking to Xtwenty three. Stop come down,
put it down your likes kid,you know. And she's like, oh,
okay, you know, and itshows short shows the revenge she has
for her master, Like damn,she's really into the the Jedil arts and
the force there. She really adheresher to her master, like it's it's

(01:21:47):
incredible to see. I mean italso shows how powerful baling is. You
know, if someone like Shinhati islike, okay, you know, acquiesced
toe to your leadership here, andthey're like, okay, destroy the map,
takes her in its prisoner. Theygo up to the ibasion. Morgan
looks over like, oh, who'sname we got? Okay, y'all capture
one of them aracle, all right, let's uh, let's let's do this

(01:22:09):
thing. Also, they bring herright to the bridge anyway, so they
start to to to to blast off, and Harrah comes in with with a
rogue squadron. Here. You know, she's like, listen to the council,
won't listen enough for these politics.I'm in general. Let's go.
So she takes it. So someof these uh these X wings with her,
and one of them's what's the namethe guy who was in Amanda Carson.

(01:22:30):
Yeah, we get to see him, so that that was real meat.
And he's like, all right,we're with you, and you're like,
yep, that's the rebel spirit.And she takes along uh her son
one of this dangerous Why I don'tknow, because hey, regarding this dangerous,
treacherous mission, where we go,we're gonna find out, we're gonna

(01:22:51):
to the location where these Empire sympathizersare building something in order for Grandamal Thumb
to come Grand Animal Throw to comeback, my friends might be in grave
danger. Hey sonat why why didyou come along? Come along with mommy?
Come on, take your child toa work day? Why? Bad

(01:23:12):
guys in the face? Here yougo? Because again fourth Wall Feloney just
needs him to be I guess forthe one line of I got a bad
feeling about this. I guess becausehe's more sensitive because the dad and I
don't know, he knows, fixknows, especially being an uncle. It's
just like there's no way here tobring kids in those situations. Whatever.

(01:23:35):
Anyway, it's it's it's cool.It's for the line. Who cares.
It's Star Wars. Don't don't thinkabout it too much. Don't they just
enjoy the product. Chopper was sittingthere in the background and he was delightful.
Yeah, yeah, I don't thinkabout it too much, even though
there's so many times where they giveyou things to think about anyway like whatever.

(01:23:59):
So Harry comes in and she's like, holy crap, look at that
what like, what is it allthat's gonna bring back the holy crap that
we gotta stop that thing. Thehead's true. They're about to jump into
hyper. Yeah, they're about tojump into hyper They're spooling up. They're
like, oh crap, they're gonnajump. Oh ma grow And the moment
you're like, what's going to happen. What's going to happen to Harra and
to the rest of the ships,and they jump and then what a beautiful

(01:24:23):
island? What a beautiful vision thatshow? You go, this this is
what? Yes, this this issome Star Wars right here. Just the
beautiful imagery of it being blast offand because there's nothing in the middle of
the ship kind of just like goesthrough the squadron there and you see some

(01:24:45):
of the ships get exploded. Youknow, there's like some lightning in there,
really cool effects. Of course,Harra is perfect, like people,
people are people on the other oneX wings are dying, and Hair's like,
I'm one of the main characters.I'm fine that her son was decapitated,
though he's fine too. We're probablyof course we're not gonna go we're

(01:25:10):
good here again. Fourth while breaking, Yeah, we're good here because so
the theory blast off. But man, what what an episode you have?
I mean, back on the planet, you have the robot, you have
Hui Yang that the droid is justlike trying to heal Ahsoka, trying to
heale Sabine. It's not finding bothof them. What's happening here? Sort

(01:25:32):
of the zoom out of the forest, so he's down there not knowing what's
going on. Soban's off, blastedoff to go get Ezra. And then
we cut back. What did happento Asoka? She dead? They came
her pans over the ruins where theyjust were with the map over the shore,
and we sort of get this nicefade into again island killing it here
into the stars, into this pathwayand we see Ahsoka on this illuminated pathway.

(01:25:59):
It's just waking and what seems tobe and you'll have to explain this
the world between worlds now before weget to the very conclusive ending, what
exactly is the world between worlds?On my tertiary look here and just watching
some key stuff like it's it's nottime travel it's a world that's impossible to

(01:26:19):
get to. It exists beyond timeand space. Yes, so this was
so the reason this whole thing isincredibly interesting is that Dave Falone had set
up this idea of of these beingsinvolved with the Force, the Mortis family.

(01:26:41):
There's Mortists and who's kind of neutral, son of Mortis, who's like
a dark side, and daughter thedaughter of Mortis, who is like the
light side, and they're kind oftied to the Force throughout the galaxy.
There's a whole episode where Asoka Obiwan an Anakin land on that planet,
they have a whole interaction with withall of the balance gets kind of thrown
off. They've kind of established thesecharacters that these are kind of the apex

(01:27:06):
of all this. So just likereally like high level for stuff going on,
like just really like core just thepurest essence of the forces, like
these folks. So cut to Rebelswhere the Empire is looking into these is

(01:27:27):
looking for something. They're basically lookingat these ruins of this temple that was
on lethal and part of the templeall these like, uh, these pictures
that they were looking at is actuallythe Mortist family. The three of them
being depicted in a photo. Ezraends up finding a way in. Basically,

(01:27:48):
he finds a way to get throughthis painting or this picture that is
really a doorway, and he endsup in this world between Worlds, which
is kind of like a place thatexists outside of space and time that seems
to be tied to the force.So we had been here before. In

(01:28:08):
fact, there was a previous ina previous season, there was this phenomenal
episode where Kanan and Ezra and Asokago to investigate the Sith Temple. They
end up teaming up with Darth Maultrying to get get inside and find basically
find the Holocron that's that's hidden atthe center of it. Throughout this,

(01:28:30):
Darth Vader ends up showing in,showing up, and it's the first time
that Asoka has seen Darth Vader.The two of them start fighting and basically
she tells everyone to leave, She'sgot this one. They leave, and
as they all leave, the buildingbasically explodes collapses, seemingly with Asoka inside
it. That happened like a seasonbefore in this so later when they end

(01:28:54):
up in this world between worlds,one thing that Ezra ends up finding a
door way that leads him to backto that Asoka fight, and he's actually
able to pull Asoka in through thedoorway before the building completely collapses. They
have a bit of an interaction Asocaends up going back through the doorway now

(01:29:15):
that the building has already been collapsed, and then we pretty much don't really
see her for the rest of thetime. So we've seen this area before.
We know that it is involved withsome sort of time metaphysical time travel
outside is base and time, Soshe's been here before, so that's why
it's not as super surprised. It'snot the first time that we've we've seen

(01:29:35):
this. So what's very interesting aboutall of this is that if we look
back at the Colin Travero original scriptof the Duel of the Fates, the
original bad guy was supposed to bethe son of Mortis, which is again
the basically purest dark energy. Sothe fact that we are now we had

(01:30:00):
this amazing episode in Rebels that kindof brings back this whole concept. We
knew that that was a part ofthe original script that got dropped. I'm
actually wondering, my big theory isI'm wondering if Feloni is trying to bring
back that big concept and trying toalmost wreck con and bring those ideas back,
because we're actually bringing in some ofthese theories, these big picture,
greater force ideas that he had establishedbefore. I find this all super interesting

(01:30:26):
and it would be awesome if that'sthe direction they go in here, But
I don't know. We're gonna seewhat happens. That's kind of the the
big thing there. I know,I just ranted like a chit ton.
Hopefully it happened. That made no, no, no, no. That
was great because because me not watchinglike Rebels, I mean I saw that,
you know, there was that momentof you know, Ezra sort of
saving a circa before she gets killedby vaders. So wait, which is

(01:30:48):
also confusing because I saw an interviewwith Felony where he talked about how the
world between worlds isn't time travel.It's supposed to be sort of like like
a library. But at the sametime, it's like, well, Ezra
pulled literally saved her from from thatmoment. So it is sort of because
in the same interview he also said, you know, you know, he

(01:31:09):
doesn't want it where where they're breakingthe rules of Starry he was very methodic
COVID's interview with what he said,and I think it was like an official,
like a Disney thing where he doesn'twant to break the rules where you
have time travel where you're rewriting thingsand you're doing Star Wars history and that's
not what happened, but she alsokind of did. Yeah, but I
mean, it's what happened here,but it isn't that kind of what happened

(01:31:30):
when Ezra pulled her. I mean, she was supposed to die there,
but but she may not have beensupposed to die, so he saved her.
But it's not like she died.He goes, oh my god,
her debt. She's been dead.I'm not going to go back and save
her. It was like kind ofan accident. But also it did save
her, but she did continue.She did go back, right, So
she went back there. I actuallythe first time I watched Rebels, I

(01:31:51):
forgot that she went back, soI was like, did she just jump
like three years and but but no, she goes back through there. So
but he was always supposed to saveher. So part of the reason of
so there's a whole thing throughout Rebelswhere there's this owl that shows up every
once in a while with these inthese big force moments, so that owl

(01:32:11):
kind of indicated because the owl showsup at these moments means he was always
supposed to find that entrance and hewas always supposed to rescue Asoka. So
that's what was supposed to happen.It wasn't that they lost her and then
they brought him. I don't know, kind of sounds kind of sounds like
some time traveling convenience. They're like, no, he was. It's not
too easy, you know, Soit's definitely time travel. I don't know
what he smoked on a time job, because it's definitely a door. It's

(01:32:34):
it's definitely time it's not it's it'sdefinitely Time's definitely time travel. But but
under the assumption that what happened,it's all under the same timeline. What
happened happened, and you're not changingwhat happened. And if Felonia is smart
enough, he's just like, well, no, he was always supposed to
save her. But it's still timetravel. The person it's always supposed to
intend to do it. It's likeif like Marty McFly was always supposed to

(01:32:58):
do what he did but he's notime travel right, here's where it's still
he still traveled through time like thathappened. I know this because two seasons
went by and then we were backin the same room. So so there's
this air now of before we getinto that. So she's in the World

(01:33:19):
between Worlds, which is time travel, but not really time travel. It's
a library to where you can peerinto different moments in time. You know,
you can see you know, themall fight with with w One,
you can see the Clone Warriors,you can see a lot of the OG
stuff. It's not time travel.It's a can an event from the Spider
Verse. That's great. And Asokaends up here in at the end of

(01:33:41):
the last episode. So that's whereshe is now. She's in the World
between Worlds. Is she dead oris she alive? And she just where
she pulled there because we see wellwe hear her voice calls out to her
Hello Snips and people were like,no, wait a minute, that that
can't be. It's impossible. Andwe get to review Oh boom, Hayden
Christensen in a weird PlayStation looking PlayStationmodel not even like not even deep face,

(01:34:08):
because apparently the guy they brought ontoDeep Fake, who did an amazing
Luke Skywalker for for Boba Fett didthose great episodes. Is not there anymore?
Kind of strange because I think Kathleensaid they don't. He doesn't want
to do that stuff anymore, andalso done with the Skywalker anyway. Uh,
but yeah, we see you seeAnakin standing there and uh, you

(01:34:29):
know, he's surprised that he was. She was there so soon in the
episode cuts and there's so many questionsnow and it's grown around the internet.
Right, we see Anakin Skywalker,we see Hayden Christensen's and they're looking like
a video game character because I don'tthink it's him on set. I think
one, the effect looks okay becauseit's dark, but two, I think
it would have been better if youhad Hayden Christensen. If it was him

(01:34:50):
on set, you know, yougive him the wig, you date him
a little bit. But it looksway too CG. We'll see in the
next episode what happens with that.It could have where very well beat him
and that was that one off shot. But yeah, like so when she
went off the cliff, when Baylenjust slashed her, Oh got out of
here, gotcha? Off the cliff. Did was she pulled into this world

(01:35:12):
beyond worlds like Ezra pulled her into. Is she dead and now that's the
afterlife for a Jedi? You knowshe typically a former Jedi. What's going
on here, Chris, Well,what do you want? I mean,
clearly she was supposed my head issaying she was supposed to be there.
But clearly there's a bigger purpose wheresomething's going on. Who the fuck knows
at this point, Like, Idon't know, this is a it's such

(01:35:35):
a weird like high concept thing thatit's like, I don't know, it's
weird that like there was a wholebig thing where they had to go through,
like it it was very specific inthat spot and they had to figure
out how to work with the pictureand they had to go through the picture
and that's how they got there.And then this one she got thrown off
a cliff and somehow ended up there. H Okay, I don't know.

(01:35:57):
We're gonna see what happens in thenext episode, but I mean again hopefully
wait wait you want you want troubles, So you know, I don't know,
it was a whole big thing whenlike it took them like two episodes
to get into like into that world. So I don't know, I don't
know what they're doing here. Idon't know. We'll see what happens because
clearly like we don't know. It'swe like have a passing understanding of what

(01:36:23):
that plane, like what that planeis. But like also like why is
there all of a sudden Anakin whois dead at this point showing up also
with his droid arms. Yeah,like you know, like you see his
glove he has, So that's Idon't know, post count Dooku hand being
chopped off and that's his And hedoesn't look did you look like a Force

(01:36:47):
ghost? I don't think he lookedlike a Force guy. No, he
just looked at guy. He didn'the didn't have the glory or anything.
It looked like like he was standingthere, you know, looking like uh
yeah. Like episode three, youknow, he even has his his saber.
It's with resaber. It's very interesting. So it's like, what's going
to happen here, Like did sheget pulled in? Is she dead?
Is she alive? Were between worlds? I don't like the concept of time

(01:37:10):
travel in Star Wars. I thinkit's a bit too much. I know,
like like Star Wars is a spaceopera, it's fantasy, you know,
it's based off of a lot ofthings. But I think time travel.
I mean I heard some rebels fanstoo, were not too keen when
the world's between worlds was introduced inthe animated series, because when you introduce
time travel in any property, notjust Star Wars, it gets messy.

(01:37:30):
It gets really messy. You leavea lot of room for error, because
then you get into a web ofwriting that you if you don't untangle things
for the audience in the right orderand the right way, if we can't
follow along with it, or ifit just puts all the rules we've established
to the side, then nothing meansanything and it's just okay, well we

(01:37:50):
can just use I mean that's whythe Marvels universe there's also in peril right
now, because okay, we cantime travel. We can just nothing really
matters. We can go between worlds, there's multiverses, there's no stakes,
there's a different universe, there's amulti verse we can travel through. Well,
we'll see. I mean it soundslike because has been like this isn't
time travel, Well it is timetravel, But I think it's gonna be

(01:38:13):
like uh, Harry Potter, Prisonof Azkaband Rules, where what happened happened
and if if you revisit it doesn'tchange what's going to happen. It was.
It always happened, even though you'rethere's two versions of you there,
which is interesting. So that's mytake on it. Again, still time
travel, You're just not changing anything. Still still app still time travel.

(01:38:36):
So yeah, so hey, whoknows? So leaving off there with the
end of the episode, the lastthing we're gonna talk about here is Chris.
The next episode, episode five ofThe Ahsoka Show. This is very
interesting, but is in general lazygentlemen. Episode five out of eight airs

(01:38:57):
next week. But here's the kick. The next episode of The Asoka Show
is also going to be playing inmovie theaters. That's right, fright,
everybody, It's going to be playingin movie theaters. How crazy is the
next episode of Disney Pluses star WarsAhsoka that Dave Filoni said, Hey,

(01:39:19):
this next one is going to beon a big screen. Okay, And
unfortunately it's not every single theater acrossthe globe, but even in America it's
select theaters. I mean up herein the Tri City area of New York,
New Jersey, Connecticut. It's youknow, very select to like one

(01:39:41):
or two theaters. It was immediatelygone when I went to select it.
You know, the AMC Empire inManhattan rip because that's just you know,
millions of people looking at that allat once, ripped to that. Up
in Boston as well, where Chrisis, there's there's a there's one theater
that's showing it ultra rip millions ofpeople as well looking at that. So
wherever you are, it was probablygone before you even knew that he was

(01:40:04):
in a movie theater. Too late. But man, I mean, I'll
be one sort of did the samething, and some of them, but
it's never happened where I think itwas like a mid season type thing.
I think Game of Thrones did itwhere it was an episode or two from
the beginning. I think the finaleof either a House and Dragon or Game
of Thrones Student as well, butnot like a mid season I mean,

(01:40:26):
we're we're at the halfway point here, We're getting episode five next week,
Chris. What is happening next week? I mean, we made the jump
into hyperspace, so we're going toget Thrown the next one animal Thrown appearing.
Are we going to see Ezra?I mean movie theater is Chris next
episode? What? Yeah? Man? I I mean fingers crossed that they
the reason that they've been going soslow is that they know that they're going

(01:40:48):
to be putting into high gear inthe second half, which would be awesome.
I'm into it, but also historyhas not shown that to be such
so cautiously optimistic. I think it'sthat gets me hype that you know they
are wanting to show some of thestuff in the theater, which means,
I mean, hopefully we get somegood stuff. I do think it's interesting,

(01:41:09):
like we just had kind of abig episode, and usually after a
big episode, there's usually a lotmore exposition filling in the gaps that we
were missing in the first few episodes. So is this going to be so
action packed that it demands at theater. I don't know. I can imagine
that we're going to get some amazingstory beats because we're finally like this whole

(01:41:30):
four episodes is trying to figure outhow are we going to get over to
save Thrown and Ezra? And wellguess what they're going now? And I
don't know about you, but Hyperspace, I think it's pretty damn fast.
So we're probably gonna get there,if not at the beginning or middle of
the episode, at the end.So that episode six, we're gonna be
there. But like also we're aboutto have a conversation with friggin Darth Vader,

(01:41:51):
like what a Darth Vader in DarthVader's padawan, like what is about
to go down? Anakin Skywalker andAsokatano. Yeah, that's its be interesting.
I mean I can on even imagineLone his part probably gonna start off
the next episode very Star Wars likeright, like maybe the Eye of Sion,
that that huge ring that they werebuilding in order to get Throns thrown

(01:42:12):
back, you know that that sortof like blast in from hyper Space.
Uh, you know they're sort oflike this big they show the size of
it on screen, taking up thewhole screen as it comes forward, you
know, it cuts over to tothe bridge where you know, if they're
getting readings. It seems like acode of similar to uh, you know
the Chimera you know, the nameof a Grandama thron ship and then h

(01:42:33):
you know, like them docking withthe ship thrown coming on board B we
see that, but we see thatover the shoulder shot in the trailer of
him walking on and we're gonna seehim from behind him in the shadow and
seeing something along and something It tookyou long enough, and then the frontal
reveal of the shadow being lifted andboomed. There he is all chis looking
with his blue skin and red eyeyou know, throws are No, that's

(01:42:55):
his uh, that's that's sort ofracy. Is he's a chiss. And
then we're gonna get into the wholeworld between worlds with Andy Kan and Ahsokatano.
I mean, it's it's it's crazy. I hope, I hope it's
an hour long. I mean itcan't be like I think it's fifty nine
minute. I think it's a it'ssupposedly a full hour. Mm is that
with credits because they were doing likesix minute credits and garbage. Yeah,

(01:43:15):
so might be forty nine minutes.Hold up? Oh no, I mean
imagine going to theaters. But butI if it's all, if it's all
full of content, I think it'sgonna be great. But man, Dave
Foloni said, listen, I'm cooking. We need this thing to be played
in the theaters. Let's go andthen it's funny enough. I was talking
to a buddy of mine. Theydidn't even know it's going to be in
theaters. I'm like, yes,man, the next episode is going to

(01:43:39):
be in select movie theaters as wellas released on Disney Plus. I mean,
how incredible. Hey, hats offto the people who actually were able
to early enough. I don't knowhow people found out so early that you
were able to click on go Phoboand get like and it's and it's a
free ticket. You just you justhits like you get in there, bananas,

(01:43:59):
maybe some friends, family, we'reallerted to. But yeah, I
mean it's gonna be amazing seeing thatin a theater. I mean, like,
I'm pretty sure there's gonna be agigantic shot of the Chimera Grannabelle Thron's
Star Destroyer. You know, it'sprobably gonna look huge and looming. You
know, the guy himself is gonnabe larger than the life on screen.
And we're gonna have Michelson there portrayingthe character in live action as he did

(01:44:20):
in the animated theories. So it'sgonna be crazy. I really hope we
get something substantial where this whole seriesgoes. Obviously it's going into for those
who don't know, a movie isgoing to be coming tying in the Disney
Star Wars streaming verse with the Mandalorian, with Boba Fette, with all those

(01:44:41):
characters. There's gonna be a moviemade by Dave Filoni, who's making this
series. So that's where this isall headed to. Hopefully this whole series
doesn't end off an episode eight withthe cliffhanger tune into the next product.
Will we get a pretty good substantialending, But who knows, Maybe the
movie itself is gonna be thrown.Maybe that's when like the war starts,
free starts whatever, and you know, uh, the thron said something along

(01:45:03):
the lines of, you know,we need of the empireties to be coming
back, but we need to reestablish shit, and this is your first
order, you know, saying somethingcorny to like introduce like the first order
line or something. Some kind ofhot tub time machine, yeah, my
favorite lines, some kind of asoh my gosh, he looks into the

(01:45:27):
camera, some kind of time machine. He said, the name of the
movie in the movie, you know, I love one of my at that
moment gets me and I die laughingevery time. So sort of hot,
can do no wrong. God blessCraig Robertson. His comedic timing is impeccable.
That line gets me every single time. It's so stupid, it's so

(01:45:48):
dumb. I love it. It'sgreat, Chris, next episode, what
do you want to see? Whatdo you want to see? Go down?
What are what are the main meatpotatoes here? Man? I Well,
first of all, I don't knowif it's unpopular opinion, I don't
really care that Hayden Christensen is backin this show. Those I know there's

(01:46:12):
some fans out there right now whoare like, listen at at not Chris
at Nortelia, listen listen. DaveFiloni did wonderful things with the Anakin character.
It was great, awesome, butI'm still I feel like I'm still
burned from obi one on on thecharacter, Like no, I just I

(01:46:34):
just don't care, h like letthe dead be dead and kill kill it.
I'm There's so much more, likecool strands and stuff that they could
be exploring right now, Like dowe really need her to have a conversation

(01:46:54):
with an again? It was thesame reason like in in Kenobi that mid
that mid season fight. I hatedthat so much, Like why like it
just it just took it took thebite out of the later fight and which
also then took the bite out ofwhat happens in the new Hope. So
I don't know, man, Idon't know. I don't know what to

(01:47:14):
expect in the next episode. Ihope it's great. I'm I'm excited for
where the story is headed, butI'm excited that she's in the world between.
I'm more excited about where she isthan who she's talking to. Let's
put it that way. I justI don't know, I don't know what's
gonna happen. I'm excited. I'mready for it nine o'clock on Tuesdays.
Man, I'm in it. I'mI mean, your boy didn't get tickets

(01:47:36):
to the theater, but you knowwhat, Like, I'm gonna see it
the same day anyways, and I'llbe on my couch, So I'm not
exactly knocking it. Man. Ireally echoed that sentiment. That's a good
point with with the Kenoby Show,because man, a lot of us who
who watched you know, uh,that Kenoby Show, we're really sort of
disappointed with, you know, likeit's outcome the way the characters were treated.

(01:47:57):
I remember I was. I wastalking to my dad about it.
He was a man, the mannob we want to sissy like that's only
won Canobi Like come on, like, what are we doing here? Oh
man, we had him. Wehad a really fun conversation about it.
But yeah, I mean you haveAnnie Kin, you have Hayden Christensen.
It's just like you wasted it lasttime. Yeah, I had him there
and he should have been. Theyshould have been the main focus of that

(01:48:20):
story. So it's like, Imean, maybe maybe Foloni's the guy to
actually do something with it. Imean, he knows him very well,
like he's crafting this story. Butagain, I mean I pointed out in
this podcast a lot of conveniences,a lot of fourth ball breaking stuff,
whereas things want to work. Ifyou think Folony just needed to work for
the script, and I don't know, the guy is cooking. He's doing
some good stuff. I'm liking whathe's doing, but there are some questionable

(01:48:42):
things here, right. I don'tblaze the guy, but if it serves
the story, I'm all for it. But but bringing him back just to
bring him back because we haven't reallyseen Hayden Christensen be Darth Vader post Darth
Vader, with the exception of Kenobi, but that was you know, quick
hits, and we didn't really seemuch of the Anakin character he with the
exception of that that final Showdown episode, which again like who actually asked for

(01:49:06):
that? Like, I just tellus how you really feel? Oh my
god, I would have been fine. I would have been perfectly fine if
it Darth Vader, like would neverI would okay with the Darth Vader being
in that show. But like thefact that they actually met up like twice
in that show was dumb. Thatthey should have been always cat and Mouse,
just missing show the whole time,big fight with Riva at the end,

(01:49:29):
skip the whole end thing with Luke, and I would have been in
a much better shape this again,Do something good with the character, make
him make it matter that he's back. Don't just have him being like you've
come a long way Asoka, I'mproud of you, I'm sorry what happened,
Fade into the black, never tobe heard from again. Like that's
dumb, but that's probably what's goingto happen. Let's be perfectly honest.

(01:49:49):
Or the other theory is uh inthe realm of the March is he is
the Sun, so he's one ofthe you know, the embodiments of the
Dark Side, is not actually Anakin, it's actually it's another being there too.
That would rule coming showing up inthe form of Anakin that actually is
actually one hundred percent on brand.I would love I think I said this

(01:50:10):
before. I would love for themjust to do like duel the faith,
like, just do the script.Just do the script. The only thing
that's different is Kyler Run's dead,but like everything else basically falls into place
and you're still good. So I'mvery interested to see where this is going,
because, on one hand, inboth The Bad Batch and in Mandalorian,
they kind of hint at the wholecloning thing and the Empires looking into

(01:50:32):
cloning tech, seemingly trying to retconand make the fact that the Emperor came
back like a thing. I'm wonderingif Feloni was just like, maybe that
didn't work, Let's do something simpler, Let's do the world between worlds.
And then someone goes in, reachesin and fringing pulls like snaps. Palpatine
out of the air and bam,he's back on the board. It would
be kind of dumb because I'd rathersee something interesting happening with the cloning thing,

(01:50:56):
because they've already again established it intwo shows, which has still yet
to have any pay off. ButI could see him him trying to do
it this way because Feloni's big jamis being like, all right, let's
take the gripes that people had withthe sequel trilogy or the prequel trilogy,
and let's let's fill in those gapswith my show the Clone wars and rebels
and things like that and make itinteresting. And I think he could do

(01:51:16):
it. He could be up tothe task. But you're right, like
time travel gets messy. No onewanted the Emperor to come back anyway,
So if you're trying to take ashortcut just to snag amount of the air
in the world between worlds, that'sdumb. But if you are telling me
that son of Mortis is just showingup in anakin form, I'm on board.
Let's do this. Let's friggin blowpeople's minds right now. Let's freaking

(01:51:41):
go. Yeah man, So hopefully, yeah, the next episode is a
banger. I mean, it kindof has to be if it's in theaters.
Hopefully they do something with anakin ofsubstance. Just like Chris said,
probably definitely gonna see Thronomy. We'dbe blasted off into hyperspace. It would
be crazy if it's being shown intheaters. We don't see thrown. I
think this is a moment's specially becauseeach of these episodes, just like the
other DC play shows, are eachdirected by different directors. I mean,

(01:52:04):
there's an overall writer so here it'sDave Filoni, but Feloni is helming the
next episode that's going to be intheater, So I can't wait. Man,
I think it's gonna be something goodto sink rtez in two we're all
going to be staying up and thankgoodness, it's no longer like a been
night three amra release of these shows. It's actually a good time for us
here in the East Coast night atnight, so we can actually like watch

(01:52:27):
it and have a good amount oftime to see and you know, like
not have to avoid the Internet andall that good stuff. But yeah,
man, what did you guys thinkof Ahsoka? So far, so far,
so good. I think a lotof people are enjoying it. There
are some grapes from some of thegeneral audience, even from some of the
Rebels fans, so Star Wars fandomssort of mixed on it. But I
think overall, it's been a goodseries so far, giving some good Star

(01:52:50):
Wars contents for us to chew.It's good. It could be better,
but it's still good. It's stillway better than Kenobi and way way better
than Kenobia. And if you areto be a betting man and and go
back in time and be like,okay, bet in the future, which
one of these shows would be thebest Obi Wan Kenobi Boba fett you know,

(01:53:13):
or or Ahsoka, Like, there'sno way you would put money down
on Asoka being the better one,true, true, true, Sure,
let's go back in the past andwhen Ahsoka existed, but but yeah,
let's let's let's say one of theone of those shows. There's no way
you would bet on Asoka being thebetter one out of all of them,
which is insane, but yeah,that's the times that we live in,

(01:53:36):
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