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Speaker 1 (00:08):
In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Bertie's
and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls
and Teas, your passport to the golfing universe, where every
swing tells the story and every part has its punchline.
Get ready to step onto the large screens and dive
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into the world of diveds, drives and delightful better.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
The magic. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, it is the year
twenty twenty five, and I have missed everyone that keeps
listening to this particular channel, which is Balls and Teas.
It is the one and only magician Tony Tony, a
boy with a love like Yes, I am a classic man.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Am I so excited to be here today when General
remarks the twenty second day, and I have to say,
it is going to be such a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant
start to the year because it rained for a couple
of weeks and then well, the heat is unfortunately with
us at the moment. So, ladies and gentlemen, now without
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any federal du listen, I've got my guests waiting for me,
and they are waiting in anticipation. I mean these guys
they started waiting, I mean ten minutes ago. And you know,
punctuality is the most important thing when it comes to golf,
because if you're not punctual, then you will delay the cause.
So ladies and gentlemen, please allow me the pleasure to
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introduce our guests for the day. Starting off in the
red corner it is Mesta Billy Silica and in the
blue corner we have Mesta Mote MOTOI okay, gentlemen, welcome
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to balls and ties. And am I so excited that
you are my first guests for the year.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a privilege.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Indeed, after the privilege.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Thank you, Thank you, gentlemen. I tried to introduce you, Jens,
but I don't think I did you justice. Can we
can we start with you, Mesta Selican, please if you
can reintroduce yourself in the most satamina and then just
give us a brief idea of how you got into
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this lovely game.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So that's difficult for me to answer that question, but
I want to try and be brief. I'm a professional
speaker born and Brandington Bisa and businessman mm hmm and
author facilitator, strategist, transational culture, but a traveler, a foodie,
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wine collector, and collector of small little funny things.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's a lot that's on your plate. I have
to say, sir, absolutely, And you still play golf.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I still play golf. I'm playing on the twenty nine
that Glendauer.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, and when do you when do you actually get
the time to I mean, juggle amongst all these things.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Well, here's what lot a lot of people don't understand
that a day twenty four hours. If you make it
in two minutes, it's on forty minutes. So that's a
lot of time. If you understand en of that. And
how you can apportion particular amounts of debt to personal, business, family, whatever,
you'll be amazed.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And how your life can be so isily organized.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I will take that tip and then I'll start applying
it on my daily life. Cool one hundred percent. Thank
you so much, mister. And then over to you, mister MOI,
thank you for joining once again. And I tried to
introduce you. The only thing that I could say was
to say, okay, please help me welcome mister. Please, if
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you can do the honors of fully introducing yourself as well,
and hopefully you don't have as much of a handful
as mister s as well.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Now minus Quere my name from a fairly big village called.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Zerrus in the Northwest.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I'm into tech industries. However, my interest has always been
in being able to put together solutions for some more
specific industries. In this case the pastor years had been
podcasting mainly within education. And then we have a specific
(05:02):
term that we use with an education technology is called attack,
which physically speaks to any technology that is being used
to allow or to enable hybrid learning, whether you're in class,
whether you're at home, whether you're in the car.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Lenning must continue, it must.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Take place, So we provide our solutions and that's what
I do and how I got into golf a few
years back two thousand and three, when I joined a
sales type of environment at the time was business connection,
and I think one of the biggest things that in
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my case, it was a new thing that I've done.
What I was doing at the time, I was coming
from it audit team going to sales, and but this
big weight around networking, networking, networking, and at the time
guys used to talk about Hey, one can at track
a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
In golf for playing golf.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
So that's how I've got into gold, Okay, But the
truth is I never got the hang of it. I
never enjoyed it at the time until I've got to
until I've got to meet good friends of mine who
are playing golf. Only then with a good company, I
was able to be hoped into gold.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
That's how awesome, awesome, awesome. I like the fact that
you were honest to say you never really enjoyed it
then up until you hung around people who you resonated with.
And I think that's one of the biggest things that
people don't understand about sports in general, to say, any
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sport can be enjoyable as long as the people that
you are engaging with in that particular spot are like
minded and the energy resonates. All right, thank you so much.
That high We've got another guest here that they missh Maluca,
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mister Maluka. All right, mister Maluca is still busy preparing himself.
You know, gentlemen are coming with big introductions, and I
forgot to introduce myself to the gentlemen. I am twenty
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two the only magician that is on the golf course.
A lot of people call me a classic man. I
just keep it simple all the time. I see mister
Maluga is here. Now, camera is on. Mister Maluka, how
are you saying? You're on mute? You're on mute at
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the moment said.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Hi, everyone is everyone okay?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
All is well?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
And last hey, yeah, good to be here, guys, Good
to be here.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
One hundred percent. Mister Maluka, I just puts and on
the spot now to say, you know what, for as
much as I mentioned your name, I don't think it's
a it's a well zeved introduction. I was hoping that
you could actually reintroduce yourself thoroughly to our audience and
also just give us a hint of when did this
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back start at taking.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You hey, I am everyone. You a couple of years
ago while I was still at school.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
When these things started actually by share accident where a
friend of mine invited me to to.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Go kady so we can make some money to.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
You know, to buy some of the things that we
want that parents cannot buy us, for instance, techies and
you know, nice shirts and things, because our parents then
they just put the school uniform and the Christmas clothes.
So we had to hustle to get money to buy
the other things that we needed.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That when it started, and I went to White River
Country Club as a.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Rookie caddy and then I carry it there for a
month before I met up with my father's boss was
a golfer and I was.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Not aware of it.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
So the moment he saw me say hey, there's Charlie's son,
then he called me says going forward.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'll be his caddy.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Lovely.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
So yeah, until I finished high school and then I
came up to job that was in White River. Then
I came up to job and I was also a
soccer player, quite good at that. I met up with
friends that were playing soccer here I think in Tembisa,
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where where I stayed at the time, and so we
played soccer. We played up to Bela league my team,
so we're quite good at it. And after that, you know,
after being kicked all around.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You feel tired and from soccer.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Okay, now now now I'm not playing soccer, so okay,
and go watch.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
At the stadium soccer. And so that was my hobby
for every weekend.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
But then a friend of mine says to me, mish,
why can't we play golf and then I said, really,
I couldn't believe I could meet someone who wanted to
play golf with me. So I got some clubs and
then we started practicing and and the rest is history.
So we've we've been doing this now since and like
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every weekend since two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's quite well.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, And I've been doing it for a long time.
And then until I joined the BISSACLF Club and where
I was elected the captain. Yeah, so it went on
until November last year. Away I said no re election
anymore for me. Let's get the younger guys to come in,
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you know, so we cannect to them to push the
club forward.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So at the moment, I'm a member of Tenbisacle.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Club and and Messrsiligan is one of them, been one
of our sponsors, is one of our members, respected member,
and yeah, disa golf club.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We love him so much and he knows it as well,
you know. Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
And after that, before I joined them BISA, I hooked
up my wife and said, no, you must come.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
We need to play.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Because women don't allow their husbands. Wives don't allow their
husband to go play. Some of them don't understand so
they think there's women involved and all these things.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So I had to rope my No, you must come
and see.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yeah, I said, I'm going to play alone today, so
don't be surprised. But how can you play golf alone?
I said to her, look and come and see how
I can play. So I played one round the first
man and the second line I asked, do you think
you can do it? Says, I think I can. So
I gave her seven nine, put the bucket of balls.
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I said, continue, I'll play the other nine on my own.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And that beat her.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
Then up until now she's one of the good golfers around,
houting lady golfers around outing proper. And it assisted me
to train my son to learning and trend him.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Until I could see that he's very good. Then I
send him to golf school in George.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
And then he came back and played a couple of games,
went to buy a couple of times, went to Malaysia
and everywhere else, and he came back.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I can tend the pro.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
So although he.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Lost, he is cut at the moment.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
But yeah, eye that that's my one of my achievements
involved and making new friends in golf business people meeting
business people in golf, making deals in golf. So you know,
the list is endless.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
As a golfer, you know, your home in a golf course,
home in.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
A you know, everything goes, it goes well. And the
worst one.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
That I want to highlight is I won the two
thousand and eight Spence Cup in Blue Belly, and you know,
and after the city Spend.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Gave me all the prices and the whole two tears,
send me to the palaces for a week. I spend
a whole week in sun City and you know, driving
the top of the range messages bend that way.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
They said, just shoot anyway, taking the guy I want
to drive, So.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
I just throve around, rusting back in these big messages bends.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
For a whole week.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
You know, come the final where we had to play
to go to Germany where all the messages bands winners
around the world were meeting.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So I lost my three stroke stroke. So that was painful,
but the experience was enormous. Was really so you know,
even now I think back about it, you know, you know,
I feel the tills.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
It ran down my face because yeah, it was like
I'm saying, the moment I'm still involved even after I
decline being voted back into being a captaining TISA.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But I'm still involved with with.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
With the youngsters that I'm assisting because golf, you know,
we're going to start at the crassroots for you to succeed.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If you don't, you will struggle.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
But they start elie like Tagaways did, like the rest
of them did. The chances of them achieving is there,
although we still have problems a little bit about funding
in South Africa because but in Africa sure, and unfortunately
when it comes to us black guys, we don't each
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other match, but the white guys the assists. Yeah, that's
why the kind as the kind. So we still got
a long way to go there.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
But talent we have. We have plenty of talent.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
One hundred yes, Oh mister Maluka. Firstly, let me say,
I think you've you've done your part in golf ths far,
and I like the fact that you are still pushing
to do more within golf and both personally and outside
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your personal space. You you've from what from from what
I'm hearing, you've actually expanded yourself to make sure that
the spot grows, especially within black communities. You've given people
hope through the spot. Uh and uh, well, like you said,
three three strokes, but the experience, I think that's the
most important thing in life to say, you know what
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I tried, and this is what I experienced. Although I
may have been a bit shot, but you are still
a champion. You are still a champion, regardless of what
the outcome was when it came to the finals in
Germany or the route to Germany. So I just wanted
to share that with you first, and then secondly, this
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goes out to all the gentlemen joining us today, Mestkani
and yourself, mister Maluca. This is the first episode of
twenty twenty five and uh, I am delighted to have
the three of you gentlemen with me today. And if
if if you noticed the topic it says the Wizards
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of the Fairways. So I think it's it's a it's
a very big and bold heading to say the Wizards
of the Fairways, because for me, as a wizard, is
classified as correct that if I'm if I'm wrong there, no,
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that doesn't doesn't. So it's up, which means someone who
understands things more than the naked I would actually see.
So with that being said, I'm very excited, and uh,
I would like for all of us to engage in
an open conversation. And yeah, let's let's hear the stories
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that happened. I mean December, it was there was a
lot of rain, and that's the first thing I want
to find out. Who was playing golf in December? Where
were you playing your golf and what was the outcomes
because that remember that December has a particular buzz around it.
Even though you don't even think about it, it happens
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that your energy changes in December and things either go
the right way or the wrong way. So so why
I'm asking this question, Well, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
You know I belonged to both the clubs. I belonged
to Mbiza es Brahma said, you know, actually a golf
course club was started by my father and his friends
over fifty five years ago, so wow, it's sort of
like a family legers of some sort. And I also
belonged to Setty because that's where I sort of stay.
I belonged to the pin high Setti club. So December
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plays Setty and you know, remember it was rain in
the grass was quite high. Yeah, and knows the serenety
crass is not very forgiving. It's not very forgiving. You
must carry an extra packet of balls and you're gonna
donate the class there, you know. But I then played Pezula,
which was fantastic. You know, the weather was beautiful and
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you know, of course if you play such a golf course,
you have to play very early game.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
So we did off at seven.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And it was beautiful and I mean, I had a
beautiful time. It was a social game with some friends
from overseas, and it was just a lot of laughter.
And the fascinating thing about golf. If there's a lot
of laughter and bent and people enjoying themselves, you play
better golf.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
And when you play with people that.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Are competitive, you know, and I want to win, want
to you know, so well, man, they make it very difficult.
But when you play in a social setting, when people
have fun, he also learned so much from other people
because there's no competition. Gul say, hey, I saw your part.
If you do this is to become quicker.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I saw your drive. Maybe change your stands, your direction.
Then you walk out both.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
With a very good camaraderie but also having shifted some.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Of your skills.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
At the end of the game, and that's what golf
is all about. It's about gentlemen playing, connecting, learning and
growing together.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well said mister s. And I couldn't add more to
that because for me, like you said, if it's too competitive,
then it takes away the fun from the spot. Yeah uh,
the motor on your side. There. Where did we play
this December?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
In fact, I think I played the last week of
November and the bulla and last week there was supposed
to order that that game was still okay.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
One of the it took golf tournaments.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
It played over the weekend and just I just slam,
I'm a I'm a typical social golfer in a.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Time that.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
How how the wizard will apply in my case will
be on the flooring, but in in in literally enjoying
the game and making sure that I'm constantly with the
brothers on the on the on the greens, on the fairways.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
And then and joying the game. So I think we
had a beautiful weekend.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
My my, I think the outcome of the of the
scores where typical. Typical also and and I'm mature type
of a golfer didn't play that well. However, I had
a beautiful day like I said, I'm a typical uh
an easy player golfer, so so.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
We still had a good game.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Then the first weekend of December, I was supposed to
play I renly for the kid the golf Golf golf
Day and for that to miss on that so I
think I ended up traveling a lot during the December
and missed a number of gates. But truth is, I
I didn't play much over the first if I was
doing that of traveling, And I think I'm looking forward
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to starting playing now this this year hopefully beginning of
FAB is always not being busy as well, but that's
not looking forward to planning fairer.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And you know, I was going to ask you about
this year, to say, Okay, what is it that you
actually want to change in your game this year, because
I believe it's it's always good to have an idea
or of the direction that you want to hit, whether
it be from a professional aspect, from sports, from a
personal aspect, it's always good to have an idea of
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what you'd.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Like to be absolutely absolutely, Look, I think in my
game one of the biggest things is, like I said,
I'm for the longest time, I've been a typical golf.
I think one of the things that I want to
do better this year as much as I won my
disocial but I just elevate the game a bit in
terms of spending.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
More time on the.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Practicing, spend more time or rather between work and and
other things, and just make sure that it is once once,
once or twice a week. One one one is that
the driving rains and at the same time it least
start playing more of my games this year compet to last.
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So I think last year I was more like, okay,
maybe more on the website more than the golf side.
But I think this year I want to have a
bit more again on the golf side, but they'll be
able to do what I need to do from the
web point. So definitely improve my game and be able
to not play much better.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
No hster on your side, uh you you you love golf,
you leave golf.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Definitely definitely.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So I would presume that your December was packed with
a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Not not quite not quite. You see, we.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Were preparing for my nephew's wedding, oh lovely in so
we've been traveling can Forth, Bumbela, back to Campton pack
Umbella and back to Campton Pack, but.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I managed to speeze three golf games. Yeah, and the
one was.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Just after after the wedding, which I played in Morfontine
because it.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Is beautiful, you know, as you know, as you might know.
It's a champion of course, and it's very challenging.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
And in one of the holes I've got a team
because of the pink placing closer to the war.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
As a golfer, you hit the ball, he bounces just
after the pin in the water. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Another one. I did that you four times. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
When I finished, then Moryfontine had finished me.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, but it was one of the it happens, It
happened to anything else. It happens to all these guys.
It's not just me.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Yeah, Gusia Garsia went into what I don't know how
many times and this guy is paid, paid to play golf,
but it happens to them. So I just laughed because
you know, I'm playing with my bodies that I play
with all the time, and I had fun. And then
the following one we're celebrating one of our members, doctor
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Babell House days in in serengateds Well, so I played
Stergated and.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Like probabily said that you need a bag of balls when.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
I think I lost about seven balls one of the
whole almost similar things that happened in Mo of the War.
I went into the water.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't know how many times I.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Enjoyed pengate because the latter rounds I played them so well,
but the damage was already done. And then the last
one was backing our home course, which is Canton Park,
where play quite well they you know, really, even if
I was wanted to give you to give up playing
after that round, after.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You got in fire.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Yeah. So so it was nice and until last week
we played Jemeston and I was pushing my card and
I was finished because of the walking and the pushing
and the heaviness of the golf course. And as we know,
Jamestone is quite long as well. So last week was
hectic for me, but it wasn't too better. I played
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quite well as well. I was happy with my game
towards the finish. That's what golf does. Towards the finish,
the letter round, you start playing so well you think
if you come back next to you could do.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
The same with allows the case.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Yeah, and so I'm looking forward to this Saturday at them.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
So having these.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Tabeks where we accumulate points from Januar to descenb. And
there's the Top twelve shootout lovely and it happened last
weekend at Segetti and they couldn't finish because of the
lightning and the rain to stop. So it's going to
be Blue Valley this coming Saturday. Anyone wants to watch
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my Top twelve players playing, they must come to Blue
Valley this coming Saturday from eleven o'clock. We're going to
have them there, but the press giving for that will
happen in Canton back.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
On Sunday after our game on Sunday there.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
So yes, that's so far how I've played, But I'm
looking forward to really now concentrate on my game because
while I was in the office, by the time I play,
my mind is all over the place.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I couldn't concentrate.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
So now that I'm of the office, I can concentrate
on my game and lower down my handicap. So yes,
that's my my year resolution so far.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, no, no, Like you know, when I when I asked,
you said, now you didn't play so many times, But
when you started speaking, that's when you realize Okay, I
played Mother Fontaine, I played See, I played Chemistine, I
played Kempton Park. That's quite a handful.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
And then taking into consideration from January up to December,
all the games that I've played, I think I missed.
I missed about three games because of.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Death in the family. But I played all the games.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Sure, so all the four games, because we played thirty
four games passon for this particular competition. And there's other
ones as well, like your club champs, like your meat competition,
like your Chairman's carp and all that over and above that.
So years the games are many many.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
No, no, no, that's a lot, and uh master out
to some.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
In that.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
But man, at least, because what I tried to do
this make sure on my Fridays Fridays, and I leave
them open so that I can start playing more golf.
But I think between morning and afternoon at least my
fellow range an hour. So with bye by Easter, I
should be able to play Brandish.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
After YouTube, gentlemen, can we take a two minute break
just to grab some water and then when we come back,
we're going to go deeper. We're going to go deeper
into this golf meta.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Cool thank you very much two minutes. Indeed, thank you
sir all right.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
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The Magician. All right, ladies and gentlemen, will come once
again back to the one and only Balls and teach.
As you know, I am Tony Tone the bowl with
a lot of I am a classic man. Yes, I
am the Magician. And the reason they call me the
Magician is because I play a spot so difficult that
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any man can cry and smile and laugh at the
same time. So, ladies and gentlemen, as you know, I'm
joined by three guests today, mister mish Maluca, mister Billie Selekani.
So let me get them back on a gentlemen, welcome back.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
We're back.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
As I alluded prior to our short break, gentlemen, I said,
I will go deeper. I will go deep, Apapa, so
that people can actually understand where we stand with golf.
The reason I'm saying that is because a lot of
people would say, now people only go to the golf course,
maybe because it's one spot that allows you to have
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fun while you're playing it. So I'm like, no, no, no, no, no no.
The reason we go onto the golf course is to
build a community amongst ourselves, is to build each other
as individuals, because there's a lot of wisdom and knowledge
that we pick up from other individuals on the golf course.
So with that being said, gentlemen, you have been you've
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all been on the golf course many times, and there's
a lot of things that you've seen that some of
them were good things, some of them were bad things. Now,
I just want to get an idea from all three
of you, gentlemen, to say, when you look at the
landscape of social golf amongst our black communities, what would
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you say is still needed to actually make it a
more approachable and more available spot in our communities at large?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah, I think you know, we we've got to look
at country clubs that are well established and in the
proximity of townships. You know, let me give you an example.
In these two cases, I'm going to make two examples.
You've got Kempton Park and I've got Segetti. Both of
them have got proximity to Tembisa. Kempton Park traditionally has
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been supporting Tembisa because Tebsa has been supporting it, but
I sometimes feel that Segi is not doing enough to
reach out supporting Tembisa as a community. And of course
everybody runs a business different it's a business at the
end of the day. Because I still don't understand up
to today why Serengeti doesn't allow keddies, So there's never
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going to be young people coming up from Tembisa to
come and and cady in surrogate and therefore connect with
the affluent.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
And as you know, it's an opportunity base.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
So I think we should be able to have this conversation,
as uncomfortable as they might seem to those that are
in power. But you cannot consistently have you know, the
haves in one in one corner and they have not
in another corner, and there's no opening of a door
for they have nots to come in. And I think
that we need to challenge it. You need to be
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open about it. We're not going to dictain on how
people should run their businesses. But certain Getty is close
to tell me some of us who staying certain Getty
come from ten Visa, so I it doesn't make sense
that it's not support as support if it is supposed
to be so, we need to be bold enough to
challenge those these establishments to really be proactive in making
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sure that they have a development serenetys a development agenda.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
What is that development?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
You know we've got a lot of corporates that are
spending money in seringetty. They should also be asking certingetty,
what are you doing for the kids in Tembisa who
are interested in golf?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
And I don't see that conversation happening.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah and uh, I mean it goes back to the
saying that says one hand should watch the other. When
you're empty water into a class, you should be able
to take that very same class and empty it onto
another class. Mister Montor, sorry I interrupted you when you
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were about to speak there.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
No, no, no, not at all, No, no, not as of so.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I think you cast on one point where I believe
I become to be a wizard on the fairways, intu.
But on the community side of of golf, which is
the upset of it. I think as well as personal
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like literally gained a lot and gain a lot in
my case, is nothing as other than over the years
having built a community of golfers, some of them who
happen to be professionals in their own rights in order
what they do.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And over the.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Years and over time, we start understanding of what we
do as individuals and guess what happens based on that
fairway or tear shots we someone just you know what,
there's this thing based on you just said I want
to I think you might have interested in it. Maybe
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let's get involved in it. So for me, then, as
a first layer part of my my alcohol it milestones
are borne out of that type of relationships, some of
them that might not be the same guys giving me
that opportunity as part of the community. However, they're able
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to say, there's this other guy that I know, I'm
going to connect you with him. And the good thing
about that type of a community and I like the
word community because it's not a for relationship mainly focusing
on business next aspect. It starts with liking off each
other based on personalities and energies, and through time it
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translates into other opportunities and in this case not only
just business to business. However, things like my child needs
to my child is in grade eleven as part of
what they need to do.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
They need to.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Undershedole a professional, whether in technology, whether in plexic empactic surgery, and.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Then can you help me?
Speaker 6 (38:33):
So it has It has, honestly for me personally helped
me to be a call away from each and every
help that I do.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
That's the first thing.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
But secondly, which makes to we speaks to not building
up communities. For me, the biggest part of it has
always been seeing how different labs have gone out of
their ways to try to encourage people of our color
to start being exposed to the sport, not only by
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by by taking one or two, three, four children and
taking them.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Through practices or.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
Some responsors in some of their games, however, also making
sure that in there's more places, whether it's Karagua, whether
look for one or two three kids who already show
interest in playing, and we support them up to a
point where where possible they become professionals. But what we've
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also seen with golf, it's not only about you becoming
a professional player, it's also about hating a community outside
of your day to day work and which can be
availue both professionally and somehow reccreationally as a part a person.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
So I think for me.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
That is the I think that is like, if it's
anything that I'm a presenting about golf is the parent community.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
And I really that a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Thank you, Uh mister Malka over to you say.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Yes, that topic is a touching one, the one we
bend there were venturing into right now.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
You see, access to courses.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Is the biggest problem we're facing right now in NISA.
All the kids needs to go to Campton Park, where
as members of Campton Park they are today. Like Brabilia's
just said, seegate is doing it's not doing much for
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for Tbisa as far as well saying and and and
that it's a said it's a sad situation because even
workers segated, most of them are coming from Tennisa.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
And people staying in seagated, like Brabilius said.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
They come from more so than there are those that
are coming from Tunison. And it's a problem. We've been
trying as an executive of Tembisa Golf Club to try
and you know, speak to e. G. You who are
in charge of golfing a guru lane and they say
we must talk to the clubs.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
They can give watches.
Speaker 7 (41:23):
After we're spoken to the club after we agreed with
the club. Some of the clubs, like James, then they
allow us to play a reduced fee because of this
situation where we under privilege and we're having some old
cadies that are not that cannot afford to patrin and
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fifty three undred and ninety five hundred or nine undred
like they pay in surrogating nine and red.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Friends.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
These guys cannot work, but they love golf so much.
I'm talking about their adults now, and we love golf
so much, but they cannot affair to afford to go
paying an undergrandgate seregated a good golf course, challenging. It's
good to you know, to measure your games. I guess
against such golf courses. But you know who can afford
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to go playgate?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
No one can.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
We need to try and say, probabili, can you try and.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Organize a discount for us as senate? And then they can.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
They said, the discount with a golf cart because you
serve an underground. Yeah, you know, we're still lucky that
Captain Park is charging us like under the under twenty
rund to play the under fifteen rent to play a
game of eighteen holes at Campton Park. We're still lucky
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that but after a lot of hussles with them back and.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Forth, we ended up agreeing.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
But golf courses like Sgate can do the golf courses
like Irene can do that, you know, access to our
juniors because now the golf for for for me personally,
my passion.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Is the juniors.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
To see the juniors going up to a level where
they can compete with other juniors of other colors. Now
change because these juniors will go to a golf course,
they get there, they don't have food, they don't have drink,
some of them don't even have transport together.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And now it's about club.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
We we we set ourselves up that we're going to
assist where we can.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
When our juniors are going.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
To play wherever, we'll support them with the transport, support
them with it.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
But from from what you know, we're strapping here.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
And there, and the golf courses are support support us.
And I see the other races have been supported. There's
a bussard goes take kids to go play wherever they
want to play in the week.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
And they have supported these kids. But our kids are
not supported.
Speaker 7 (44:00):
So if we want to grow this game of what
we really need to focus more on the kids.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Giving a change.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
Without the youth, every political party without the youth lead
after everyone dies that political party with and that change. Yeah,
so we need our youth. We need to focus more
on our youth.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
So that so that even.
Speaker 7 (44:25):
When we we will retire all week, because you at God,
you don't actually retire, you just die while you play
that I'm gonna die play.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
So but then what would you leave behind? You know?
And we and now my sign has got a grandson,
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
I can wait for this point to be like a year,
so two years also I can start him as well
like I did with this fat Yeah, you know, to
do all those things. But you know, we really need
to leave a legas so.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
The people that have money, they look the other way.
They don't know.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
They don't want to say, okay, how many kids inter
me and say, okay, we'll got forty five.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Kids into me.
Speaker 7 (45:14):
Let me have three of them pay for their golf
to go play, I pay for their transport. You know,
it's something, it's really really something. So business people really
need to think outside.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
The box to assist because.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
If we rely on them, they don't care about us.
So if we don't care about ourself. Now we really
going noway slowly.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
So it's a sad story and it touches me a
lot when I see this happened.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
I know where I came from with my boy up
to where he is. You know, I straggled a lot,
the mother, struggling a lot, pull some strings everywhere for
him to buy, strings everywhere for him to go to everywhere.
And we still owe some money somewhere, but we got
him to where he is right now. Where is now
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can ride his own horse and go west. You know,
So is the potential, especially in our location. In terms
I speak more about them, there's a potential.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Those boys, they can hit the ball.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
But when the ten seventeen eighteen, the normal youth, where
do they go?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
What happens to them? Who looks like no one? Oh hey,
I don't know. But we really really need to really think.
Speaker 7 (46:45):
I think maybe this what you're having today should continue.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
We need to have it.
Speaker 7 (46:51):
That's a month, or that's a month or once every
two mans.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
We really need to have it because then when we
leave here, we go out, we start talking to other people,
and you know, we might get somewhere as a people,
as lex people.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Let's show that no one percent.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Yeah, I agree with you, Brahmish, and I think it
lies curely on the on the souls of black business.
The government has opened up opportunities that people have become
billionaires literally through government contracts, but you don't see that
money trickling back into communities and making a difference. And
and you know, nobody's going to hold us accountable unless
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we start holding ourselves accountable. Like Brahmis said, you know
you can ask him. I've been I've been a sponsor
of timself for a long time and I've been doing
it on my own and nobody was showing up, you know.
And and we know there are people who are multi
multi millionaires, but they will never show up and help
kids or whatever. And I think as black people, we
must hold each other accountable. They are people with money,
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They're just people would like to appease them and smile
with them and have whiskey with them, but they never
say to them, hey, my brother, you know, are you
supporting Tamisa Golf Club with what kids here? I mean
sometimes transport can be six hundred return for a venture.
I mean, really, can you pay for six months that money.
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They spend it, go go, go buying some pay for
the slay queens. You know, they can take half of
the slay.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Queen budget and give it to these kids.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
And we must be we must call it what it is,
we support it for each other and this has to
come to an end. Otherwise who will always be a nation?
I mean, think about it. We have not produced a
real black champion in the continent, let alone in South Africa,
and yet we got people as every other corner. It
just shows that we don't care. And I think we
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need to be able to hold each other countable. We've
got people that are in government, We've got people that
are see oh HR directors and big corporations. They've got
social budgets, social responsibility budgets.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
It must be shifted.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Tembisa is surrounded by by play vill oliphants.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Then the effectories.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
We've got the Kempton Park, I've got's part in god
Is Sand. You know those are the four major industrial
hubs and a learning But you don't see money coming
there into the township and uplifting our kids to really
get because if we really give our kids an opportunity,
I mean Tiger Woods was started at a very early age.
And look how elegid you know, so we have to
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really hold each other contac and I think it's doable,
and you know we can do this, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
One hundred percent, gentlemen. And like in African folklore they say,
so the minute that we, as the elderly generation, we
we turn a blind eye on such things, then, like
mister Maluca said, there will be no continue The whole
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legacy will collapse and we're going to constantly go in
cycles and repeat the same things, complain about the same things.
But the responsibility lies with us and everybody else out
there who has who is of the same view to say, listen,
let's peak with one voice, and let's start engaging these things.
Because inevitably tomorrow we are we are, we won't be here.
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But what would be of our kids? What would be
of that kids as well, because they wouldn't have the
foundation that is required less Leminiti. Just like Tiger Wood,
he started very young, and it's because somebody whom of
which was his father at the point in time, said
you know what, this is what I'm gonna do for
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my son. But just imagine, as an individual, you do
that for your child and you do that for your
neighbor's child, the same uh, the same thing will pass
over to be a domino effect because once somebody sees
something good coming out of nothing, they want to replicate it.
And I think that's one thing that we have to
do as a as a community, especially a goal a
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social golfing community, say Okay, we didn't have the opportunity
to tend pro, but we've got the opportunity now to
actually extend a hand to the upcoming generation and put
them in this thing, because it's not just about them
being professional sportsmen. It's about them leaning networking skills, learning
business skills, leaning proper life skills so that people are
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able to make the right decisions in life. So that's
my ten cents with at the moment, gentlemen. But because
due to time constraints, I'll have to leave you here,
and once again I have to say a big, big
thank you to all three of you for your input,
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your knowledge, your wisdom for continuously and constantly building this
skulfing community, especially black social golfers. But before I let you,
gentlemen go, I'm going to ask a huge face from
each one of you. It's it's not that big Master Maluka,
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I can see your face light.
Speaker 6 (52:08):
Dear.
Speaker 7 (52:11):
No, no, no, I'm paying I'm really paying attention because
what you said and what Barbili has said, it's you know,
it's up to us. We really really need to honor.
We need to own these things. We cannot expect people
to help on our day. They will just start it.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
So we really need.
Speaker 7 (52:36):
To ourselves make sure it goes the way we as
the people wanted to.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
One hundred white tu sans. So with that being said, gentlemen,
please allow me to ask for that one big favor.
The favor is very simple. We are in twenty twenty five.
The three, the three and the four of us have
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the same vision, which is to enjoy golf in the
most relaxed, the most comfortable communities in our own rights.
But at the same time, I think we have the
same vision to say, we want to impart something in
the community at large, whether it be a way of encouragement,
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whether it be from your own experience, something from your
own experience, would you mind perhaps sharing with our audience
something that you can leave them with, something that will
stay forever in the thoughts in their hearts and drive
them to actually push this social black social golfing community
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into your heights.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
Okay, yes, my, my, my parting shots. We don't die
the day we stop breathing. We die the day we
stop dreaming. And that's the next thing we've got to dream.
We can understand that our dreams are the ones that
are going to propel our souls to achieve great and
amazing things.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Mm hmm. Very profound, very profound than that.
Speaker 6 (54:10):
I think from my side, one of the biggest things
is the only way for us to move forward but
to start creating things on our own and for our
own people. So as much as the might do community
that can come into into our old communities, come and help.
That's always remember that it starts with me, start with us.
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So whatever we do, whatever you want, what we can
dream of, it can never be in one responsibility.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
But it starts use the men in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Hey, okays, you're shooting big, big, big, big wisdom with
the best of our Look from your side.
Speaker 7 (54:48):
Say my side, I've got so much that I can say.
But right now I think I think as that I
have already seen the way forward. I think we really
need to extend the helping hand to pull the one
that I left behind. As we all know, we are
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rather skippers, so when that is being said, it doesn't
mean black brother. So yes, let's extend the hand to
everyone that wants to travel this world and and help
them whichever way we can, and direct them to where
they can get help from if we cannot assess ourselves.
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But let's be open to this thing and be acceptable
to any any request that comes our way so that
we can move forward with this thing.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
No, gentlemen, once again, I have to say a huge
thank you for everything that you've shared with us in
this hour, and thank you once again to your family's
friends and colleagues who've also afforded you the time to
actually join us today. We are extremely grateful, and we
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hope that there will be a continuation of such conversations
moving forward into twenty twenty five. And the biggest thing
that I hope for is that it won't just be conversations,
it will be with being converted into action, which is
the most important thing. We need to start driving this
sheep because it belongs to us. Nobody else can make
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a horse drink water except for the horse itself. You
can show it the river, but you can't force it
to drink otherwise you'll end up drowning it. With that
being said, gentlemen, I have to say a great thank
you and may you have a lovely evening. Feather.
Speaker 5 (56:44):
Thank you very much, gentlemen, another beautiful one.
Speaker 7 (56:48):
Hope to play with you very soon. We'll make it happen.
Organize a game where we can.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
Play absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Thanks, make it happen.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Just go on.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Say all right, ladies and gentlemen, we have come to
the end of our segment today. As I said, it
is twenty twenty five is the first episode, and you
saw from the get go that we are on fire
this year. Three guests, the three wizards, and I believe
there's more wizards out there when it comes to golf.
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I'm looking forward to seeing how the year will progress.
And as the conversation went, ladies and gentlemen, whoever you are,
wherever you are, however you are, please please, please please,
let's reel in more people into this spot. Let us
not allow this spot to die. The people who started
playing the sport in South Africa are already seasoned. It
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is our ten. Now is the youth and the ones
who are currently playing the sport to actually real in
the younger generations and make sure that they also taste
this beautiful addiction that we all have. With that being said,
ladies and gentlemen, I have to say arios good night,
and you know, because it's Wednesday, the weekend is officially opened.
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If you're going to work tomorrow, I have to say congratulations.
That's one of my New Year's resolution, to make sure
that people go to work on Thursdays, because I had
a lot of complaints last year. Companies were complaining that
people are saying Tony Tone said, don't go to work.
So please please go to work on Thursdays until further notice.
When I come back and say the weekend starts on
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a Wednesday, Shout out to everyone who's been following us.
Shout out to everyone who has joined us along the way.
I love you. The one and only magician Tony Tones
signing out the magicians
In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Bertie's
and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls
and Teas, your passport to the golfing universe, where every
swing tells the story and every part has its punchline.
Get ready to step onto the large screens and dive
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
The magic. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, it is the year
twenty twenty five, and I have missed everyone that keeps
listening to this particular channel, which is Balls and Teas.
It is the one and only magician Tony Tony, a
boy with a love like Yes, I am a classic man.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Am I so excited to be here today when General
remarks the twenty second day, and I have to say,
it is going to be such a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant
start to the year because it rained for a couple
of weeks and then well, the heat is unfortunately with
us at the moment. So, ladies and gentlemen, now without
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any federal du listen, I've got my guests waiting for me,
and they are waiting in anticipation. I mean these guys
they started waiting, I mean ten minutes ago. And you know,
punctuality is the most important thing when it comes to golf,
because if you're not punctual, then you will delay the cause.
So ladies and gentlemen, please allow me the pleasure to
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introduce our guests for the day. Starting off in the
red corner it is Mesta Billy Silica and in the
blue corner we have Mesta Mote MOTOI okay, gentlemen, welcome
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to balls and ties. And am I so excited that
you are my first guests for the year.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a privilege.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Indeed, after the privilege.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Thank you, Thank you, gentlemen. I tried to introduce you, Jens,
but I don't think I did you justice. Can we
can we start with you, Mesta Selican, please if you
can reintroduce yourself in the most satamina and then just
give us a brief idea of how you got into
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this lovely game.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So that's difficult for me to answer that question, but
I want to try and be brief. I'm a professional
speaker born and Brandington Bisa and businessman mm hmm and
author facilitator, strategist, transational culture, but a traveler, a foodie,
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wine collector, and collector of small little funny things.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's a lot that's on your plate. I have
to say, sir, absolutely, And you still play golf.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I still play golf. I'm playing on the twenty nine
that Glendauer.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, and when do you when do you actually get
the time to I mean, juggle amongst all these things.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Well, here's what lot a lot of people don't understand
that a day twenty four hours. If you make it
in two minutes, it's on forty minutes. So that's a
lot of time. If you understand en of that. And
how you can apportion particular amounts of debt to personal, business, family, whatever,
you'll be amazed.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And how your life can be so isily organized.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I will take that tip and then I'll start applying
it on my daily life. Cool one hundred percent. Thank
you so much, mister. And then over to you, mister MOI,
thank you for joining once again. And I tried to
introduce you. The only thing that I could say was
to say, okay, please help me welcome mister. Please, if
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you can do the honors of fully introducing yourself as well,
and hopefully you don't have as much of a handful
as mister s as well.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Now minus Quere my name from a fairly big village called.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Zerrus in the Northwest.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I'm into tech industries. However, my interest has always been
in being able to put together solutions for some more
specific industries. In this case the pastor years had been
podcasting mainly within education. And then we have a specific
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term that we use with an education technology is called attack,
which physically speaks to any technology that is being used
to allow or to enable hybrid learning, whether you're in class,
whether you're at home, whether you're in the car.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Lenning must continue, it must.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Take place, So we provide our solutions and that's what
I do and how I got into golf a few
years back two thousand and three, when I joined a
sales type of environment at the time was business connection,
and I think one of the biggest things that in
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my case, it was a new thing that I've done.
What I was doing at the time, I was coming
from it audit team going to sales, and but this
big weight around networking, networking, networking, and at the time
guys used to talk about Hey, one can at track
a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
In golf for playing golf.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
So that's how I've got into gold, Okay, But the
truth is I never got the hang of it. I
never enjoyed it at the time until I've got to
until I've got to meet good friends of mine who
are playing golf. Only then with a good company, I
was able to be hoped into gold.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
That's how awesome, awesome, awesome. I like the fact that
you were honest to say you never really enjoyed it
then up until you hung around people who you resonated with.
And I think that's one of the biggest things that
people don't understand about sports in general, to say, any
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sport can be enjoyable as long as the people that
you are engaging with in that particular spot are like
minded and the energy resonates. All right, thank you so much.
That high We've got another guest here that they missh Maluca,
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mister Maluka. All right, mister Maluca is still busy preparing himself.
You know, gentlemen are coming with big introductions, and I
forgot to introduce myself to the gentlemen. I am twenty
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two the only magician that is on the golf course.
A lot of people call me a classic man. I
just keep it simple all the time. I see mister
Maluga is here. Now, camera is on. Mister Maluka, how
are you saying? You're on mute? You're on mute at
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the moment said.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Hi, everyone is everyone okay?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
All is well?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
And last hey, yeah, good to be here, guys, Good
to be here.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
One hundred percent. Mister Maluka, I just puts and on
the spot now to say, you know what, for as
much as I mentioned your name, I don't think it's
a it's a well zeved introduction. I was hoping that
you could actually reintroduce yourself thoroughly to our audience and
also just give us a hint of when did this
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back start at taking.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You hey, I am everyone. You a couple of years
ago while I was still at school.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
When these things started actually by share accident where a
friend of mine invited me to to.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Go kady so we can make some money to.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
You know, to buy some of the things that we
want that parents cannot buy us, for instance, techies and
you know, nice shirts and things, because our parents then
they just put the school uniform and the Christmas clothes.
So we had to hustle to get money to buy
the other things that we needed.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That when it started, and I went to White River
Country Club as a.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Rookie caddy and then I carry it there for a
month before I met up with my father's boss was
a golfer and I was.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Not aware of it.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
So the moment he saw me say hey, there's Charlie's son,
then he called me says going forward.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'll be his caddy.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Lovely.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
So yeah, until I finished high school and then I
came up to job that was in White River. Then
I came up to job and I was also a
soccer player, quite good at that. I met up with
friends that were playing soccer here I think in Tembisa,
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where where I stayed at the time, and so we
played soccer. We played up to Bela league my team,
so we're quite good at it. And after that, you know,
after being kicked all around.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You feel tired and from soccer.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Okay, now now now I'm not playing soccer, so okay,
and go watch.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
At the stadium soccer. And so that was my hobby
for every weekend.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
But then a friend of mine says to me, mish,
why can't we play golf and then I said, really,
I couldn't believe I could meet someone who wanted to
play golf with me. So I got some clubs and
then we started practicing and and the rest is history.
So we've we've been doing this now since and like
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every weekend since two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's quite well.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, And I've been doing it for a long time.
And then until I joined the BISSACLF Club and where
I was elected the captain. Yeah, so it went on
until November last year. Away I said no re election
anymore for me. Let's get the younger guys to come in,
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you know, so we cannect to them to push the
club forward.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So at the moment, I'm a member of Tenbisacle.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Club and and Messrsiligan is one of them, been one
of our sponsors, is one of our members, respected member,
and yeah, disa golf club.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We love him so much and he knows it as well,
you know. Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
And after that, before I joined them BISA, I hooked
up my wife and said, no, you must come.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
We need to play.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Because women don't allow their husbands. Wives don't allow their
husband to go play. Some of them don't understand so
they think there's women involved and all these things.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So I had to rope my No, you must come
and see.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yeah, I said, I'm going to play alone today, so
don't be surprised. But how can you play golf alone?
I said to her, look and come and see how
I can play. So I played one round the first
man and the second line I asked, do you think
you can do it? Says, I think I can. So
I gave her seven nine, put the bucket of balls.
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I said, continue, I'll play the other nine on my own.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And that beat her.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
Then up until now she's one of the good golfers around,
houting lady golfers around outing proper. And it assisted me
to train my son to learning and trend him.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Until I could see that he's very good. Then I
send him to golf school in George.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
And then he came back and played a couple of games,
went to buy a couple of times, went to Malaysia
and everywhere else, and he came back.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I can tend the pro.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
So although he.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Lost, he is cut at the moment.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
But yeah, eye that that's my one of my achievements
involved and making new friends in golf business people meeting
business people in golf, making deals in golf. So you know,
the list is endless.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
As a golfer, you know, your home in a golf course,
home in.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
A you know, everything goes, it goes well. And the
worst one.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
That I want to highlight is I won the two
thousand and eight Spence Cup in Blue Belly, and you know,
and after the city Spend.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Gave me all the prices and the whole two tears,
send me to the palaces for a week. I spend
a whole week in sun City and you know, driving
the top of the range messages bend that way.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
They said, just shoot anyway, taking the guy I want
to drive, So.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
I just throve around, rusting back in these big messages bends.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
For a whole week.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
You know, come the final where we had to play
to go to Germany where all the messages bands winners
around the world were meeting.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So I lost my three stroke stroke. So that was painful,
but the experience was enormous. Was really so you know,
even now I think back about it, you know, you know,
I feel the tills.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
It ran down my face because yeah, it was like
I'm saying, the moment I'm still involved even after I
decline being voted back into being a captaining TISA.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But I'm still involved with with.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
With the youngsters that I'm assisting because golf, you know,
we're going to start at the crassroots for you to succeed.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If you don't, you will struggle.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
But they start elie like Tagaways did, like the rest
of them did. The chances of them achieving is there,
although we still have problems a little bit about funding
in South Africa because but in Africa sure, and unfortunately
when it comes to us black guys, we don't each
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other match, but the white guys the assists. Yeah, that's
why the kind as the kind. So we still got
a long way to go there.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
But talent we have. We have plenty of talent.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
One hundred yes, Oh mister Maluka. Firstly, let me say,
I think you've you've done your part in golf ths far,
and I like the fact that you are still pushing
to do more within golf and both personally and outside
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your personal space. You you've from what from from what
I'm hearing, you've actually expanded yourself to make sure that
the spot grows, especially within black communities. You've given people
hope through the spot. Uh and uh, well, like you said,
three three strokes, but the experience, I think that's the
most important thing in life to say, you know what
(16:23):
I tried, and this is what I experienced. Although I
may have been a bit shot, but you are still
a champion. You are still a champion, regardless of what
the outcome was when it came to the finals in
Germany or the route to Germany. So I just wanted
to share that with you first, and then secondly, this
(16:47):
goes out to all the gentlemen joining us today, Mestkani
and yourself, mister Maluca. This is the first episode of
twenty twenty five and uh, I am delighted to have
the three of you gentlemen with me today. And if
if if you noticed the topic it says the Wizards
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of the Fairways. So I think it's it's a it's
a very big and bold heading to say the Wizards
of the Fairways, because for me, as a wizard, is
classified as correct that if I'm if I'm wrong there, no,
(17:33):
that doesn't doesn't. So it's up, which means someone who
understands things more than the naked I would actually see.
So with that being said, I'm very excited, and uh,
I would like for all of us to engage in
an open conversation. And yeah, let's let's hear the stories
(17:58):
that happened. I mean December, it was there was a
lot of rain, and that's the first thing I want
to find out. Who was playing golf in December? Where
were you playing your golf and what was the outcomes
because that remember that December has a particular buzz around it.
Even though you don't even think about it, it happens
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that your energy changes in December and things either go
the right way or the wrong way. So so why
I'm asking this question, Well, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
You know I belonged to both the clubs. I belonged
to Mbiza es Brahma said, you know, actually a golf
course club was started by my father and his friends
over fifty five years ago, so wow, it's sort of
like a family legers of some sort. And I also
belonged to Setty because that's where I sort of stay.
I belonged to the pin high Setti club. So December
(18:55):
plays Setty and you know, remember it was rain in
the grass was quite high. Yeah, and knows the serenety
crass is not very forgiving. It's not very forgiving. You
must carry an extra packet of balls and you're gonna
donate the class there, you know. But I then played Pezula,
which was fantastic. You know, the weather was beautiful and
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you know, of course if you play such a golf course,
you have to play very early game.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
So we did off at seven.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And it was beautiful and I mean, I had a
beautiful time. It was a social game with some friends
from overseas, and it was just a lot of laughter.
And the fascinating thing about golf. If there's a lot
of laughter and bent and people enjoying themselves, you play
better golf.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
And when you play with people that.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Are competitive, you know, and I want to win, want
to you know, so well, man, they make it very difficult.
But when you play in a social setting, when people
have fun, he also learned so much from other people
because there's no competition. Gul say, hey, I saw your part.
If you do this is to become quicker.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I saw your drive. Maybe change your stands, your direction.
Then you walk out both.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
With a very good camaraderie but also having shifted some.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Of your skills.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
At the end of the game, and that's what golf
is all about. It's about gentlemen playing, connecting, learning and
growing together.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well said mister s. And I couldn't add more to
that because for me, like you said, if it's too competitive,
then it takes away the fun from the spot. Yeah uh,
the motor on your side. There. Where did we play
this December?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
In fact, I think I played the last week of
November and the bulla and last week there was supposed
to order that that game was still okay.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
One of the it took golf tournaments.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
It played over the weekend and just I just slam,
I'm a I'm a typical social golfer in a.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Time that.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
How how the wizard will apply in my case will
be on the flooring, but in in in literally enjoying
the game and making sure that I'm constantly with the
brothers on the on the on the greens, on the fairways.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
And then and joying the game. So I think we
had a beautiful weekend.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
My my, I think the outcome of the of the
scores where typical. Typical also and and I'm mature type
of a golfer didn't play that well. However, I had
a beautiful day like I said, I'm a typical uh
an easy player golfer, so so.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
We still had a good game.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Then the first weekend of December, I was supposed to
play I renly for the kid the golf Golf golf
Day and for that to miss on that so I
think I ended up traveling a lot during the December
and missed a number of gates. But truth is, I
I didn't play much over the first if I was
doing that of traveling, And I think I'm looking forward
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to starting playing now this this year hopefully beginning of
FAB is always not being busy as well, but that's
not looking forward to planning fairer.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And you know, I was going to ask you about
this year, to say, Okay, what is it that you
actually want to change in your game this year, because
I believe it's it's always good to have an idea
or of the direction that you want to hit, whether
it be from a professional aspect, from sports, from a
personal aspect, it's always good to have an idea of
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what you'd.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Like to be absolutely absolutely, Look, I think in my
game one of the biggest things is, like I said,
I'm for the longest time, I've been a typical golf.
I think one of the things that I want to
do better this year as much as I won my
disocial but I just elevate the game a bit in
terms of spending.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
More time on the.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Practicing, spend more time or rather between work and and
other things, and just make sure that it is once once,
once or twice a week. One one one is that
the driving rains and at the same time it least
start playing more of my games this year compet to last.
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So I think last year I was more like, okay,
maybe more on the website more than the golf side.
But I think this year I want to have a
bit more again on the golf side, but they'll be
able to do what I need to do from the
web point. So definitely improve my game and be able
to not play much better.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
No hster on your side, uh you you you love golf,
you leave golf.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Definitely definitely.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So I would presume that your December was packed with
a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Not not quite not quite. You see, we.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Were preparing for my nephew's wedding, oh lovely in so
we've been traveling can Forth, Bumbela, back to Campton pack
Umbella and back to Campton Pack, but.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I managed to speeze three golf games. Yeah, and the
one was.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Just after after the wedding, which I played in Morfontine
because it.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Is beautiful, you know, as you know, as you might know.
It's a champion of course, and it's very challenging.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
And in one of the holes I've got a team
because of the pink placing closer to the war.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
As a golfer, you hit the ball, he bounces just
after the pin in the water. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Another one. I did that you four times. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
When I finished, then Moryfontine had finished me.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, but it was one of the it happens, It
happened to anything else. It happens to all these guys.
It's not just me.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Yeah, Gusia Garsia went into what I don't know how
many times and this guy is paid, paid to play golf,
but it happens to them. So I just laughed because
you know, I'm playing with my bodies that I play
with all the time, and I had fun. And then
the following one we're celebrating one of our members, doctor
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Babell House days in in serengateds Well, so I played
Stergated and.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Like probabily said that you need a bag of balls when.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
I think I lost about seven balls one of the
whole almost similar things that happened in Mo of the War.
I went into the water.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't know how many times I.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Enjoyed pengate because the latter rounds I played them so well,
but the damage was already done. And then the last
one was backing our home course, which is Canton Park,
where play quite well they you know, really, even if
I was wanted to give you to give up playing
after that round, after.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You got in fire.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Yeah. So so it was nice and until last week
we played Jemeston and I was pushing my card and
I was finished because of the walking and the pushing
and the heaviness of the golf course. And as we know,
Jamestone is quite long as well. So last week was
hectic for me, but it wasn't too better. I played
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quite well as well. I was happy with my game
towards the finish. That's what golf does. Towards the finish,
the letter round, you start playing so well you think
if you come back next to you could do.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
The same with allows the case.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Yeah, and so I'm looking forward to this Saturday at them.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
So having these.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Tabeks where we accumulate points from Januar to descenb. And
there's the Top twelve shootout lovely and it happened last
weekend at Segetti and they couldn't finish because of the
lightning and the rain to stop. So it's going to
be Blue Valley this coming Saturday. Anyone wants to watch
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my Top twelve players playing, they must come to Blue
Valley this coming Saturday from eleven o'clock. We're going to
have them there, but the press giving for that will
happen in Canton back.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
On Sunday after our game on Sunday there.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
So yes, that's so far how I've played, But I'm
looking forward to really now concentrate on my game because
while I was in the office, by the time I play,
my mind is all over the place.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I couldn't concentrate.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
So now that I'm of the office, I can concentrate
on my game and lower down my handicap. So yes,
that's my my year resolution so far.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, no, no, Like you know, when I when I asked,
you said, now you didn't play so many times, But
when you started speaking, that's when you realize Okay, I
played Mother Fontaine, I played See, I played Chemistine, I
played Kempton Park. That's quite a handful.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
And then taking into consideration from January up to December,
all the games that I've played, I think I missed.
I missed about three games because of.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Death in the family. But I played all the games.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Sure, so all the four games, because we played thirty
four games passon for this particular competition. And there's other
ones as well, like your club champs, like your meat competition,
like your Chairman's carp and all that over and above that.
So years the games are many many.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
No, no, no, that's a lot, and uh master out
to some.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
In that.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
But man, at least, because what I tried to do
this make sure on my Fridays Fridays, and I leave
them open so that I can start playing more golf.
But I think between morning and afternoon at least my
fellow range an hour. So with bye by Easter, I
should be able to play Brandish.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
After YouTube, gentlemen, can we take a two minute break
just to grab some water and then when we come back,
we're going to go deeper. We're going to go deeper
into this golf meta.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Cool thank you very much two minutes. Indeed, thank you
sir all right.
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The Magician. All right, ladies and gentlemen, will come once
again back to the one and only Balls and teach.
As you know, I am Tony Tone the bowl with
a lot of I am a classic man. Yes, I
am the Magician. And the reason they call me the
Magician is because I play a spot so difficult that
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any man can cry and smile and laugh at the
same time. So, ladies and gentlemen, as you know, I'm
joined by three guests today, mister mish Maluca, mister Billie Selekani.
So let me get them back on a gentlemen, welcome back.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
We're back.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
As I alluded prior to our short break, gentlemen, I said,
I will go deeper. I will go deep, Apapa, so
that people can actually understand where we stand with golf.
The reason I'm saying that is because a lot of
people would say, now people only go to the golf course,
maybe because it's one spot that allows you to have
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fun while you're playing it. So I'm like, no, no, no, no, no no.
The reason we go onto the golf course is to
build a community amongst ourselves, is to build each other
as individuals, because there's a lot of wisdom and knowledge
that we pick up from other individuals on the golf course.
So with that being said, gentlemen, you have been you've
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all been on the golf course many times, and there's
a lot of things that you've seen that some of
them were good things, some of them were bad things. Now,
I just want to get an idea from all three
of you, gentlemen, to say, when you look at the
landscape of social golf amongst our black communities, what would
(33:47):
you say is still needed to actually make it a
more approachable and more available spot in our communities at large?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah, I think you know, we we've got to look
at country clubs that are well established and in the
proximity of townships. You know, let me give you an example.
In these two cases, I'm going to make two examples.
You've got Kempton Park and I've got Segetti. Both of
them have got proximity to Tembisa. Kempton Park traditionally has
(34:25):
been supporting Tembisa because Tebsa has been supporting it, but
I sometimes feel that Segi is not doing enough to
reach out supporting Tembisa as a community. And of course
everybody runs a business different it's a business at the
end of the day. Because I still don't understand up
to today why Serengeti doesn't allow keddies, So there's never
(34:47):
going to be young people coming up from Tembisa to
come and and cady in surrogate and therefore connect with
the affluent.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
And as you know, it's an opportunity base.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
So I think we should be able to have this conversation,
as uncomfortable as they might seem to those that are
in power. But you cannot consistently have you know, the
haves in one in one corner and they have not
in another corner, and there's no opening of a door
for they have nots to come in. And I think
that we need to challenge it. You need to be
(35:18):
open about it. We're not going to dictain on how
people should run their businesses. But certain Getty is close
to tell me some of us who staying certain Getty
come from ten Visa, so I it doesn't make sense
that it's not support as support if it is supposed
to be so, we need to be bold enough to
challenge those these establishments to really be proactive in making
(35:39):
sure that they have a development serenetys a development agenda.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
What is that development?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
You know we've got a lot of corporates that are
spending money in seringetty. They should also be asking certingetty,
what are you doing for the kids in Tembisa who
are interested in golf?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
And I don't see that conversation happening.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah and uh, I mean it goes back to the
saying that says one hand should watch the other. When
you're empty water into a class, you should be able
to take that very same class and empty it onto
another class. Mister Montor, sorry I interrupted you when you
(36:17):
were about to speak there.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
No, no, no, not at all, No, no, not as of so.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I think you cast on one point where I believe
I become to be a wizard on the fairways, intu.
But on the community side of of golf, which is
the upset of it. I think as well as personal
(36:43):
like literally gained a lot and gain a lot in
my case, is nothing as other than over the years
having built a community of golfers, some of them who
happen to be professionals in their own rights in order
what they do.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And over the.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Years and over time, we start understanding of what we
do as individuals and guess what happens based on that
fairway or tear shots we someone just you know what,
there's this thing based on you just said I want
to I think you might have interested in it. Maybe
(37:25):
let's get involved in it. So for me, then, as
a first layer part of my my alcohol it milestones
are borne out of that type of relationships, some of
them that might not be the same guys giving me
that opportunity as part of the community. However, they're able
(37:49):
to say, there's this other guy that I know, I'm
going to connect you with him. And the good thing
about that type of a community and I like the
word community because it's not a for relationship mainly focusing
on business next aspect. It starts with liking off each
other based on personalities and energies, and through time it
(38:10):
translates into other opportunities and in this case not only
just business to business. However, things like my child needs
to my child is in grade eleven as part of
what they need to do.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
They need to.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Undershedole a professional, whether in technology, whether in plexic empactic surgery, and.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Then can you help me?
Speaker 6 (38:33):
So it has It has, honestly for me personally helped
me to be a call away from each and every
help that I do.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
That's the first thing.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
But secondly, which makes to we speaks to not building
up communities. For me, the biggest part of it has
always been seeing how different labs have gone out of
their ways to try to encourage people of our color
to start being exposed to the sport, not only by
(39:06):
by by taking one or two, three, four children and
taking them.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Through practices or.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
Some responsors in some of their games, however, also making
sure that in there's more places, whether it's Karagua, whether
look for one or two three kids who already show
interest in playing, and we support them up to a
point where where possible they become professionals. But what we've
(39:34):
also seen with golf, it's not only about you becoming
a professional player, it's also about hating a community outside
of your day to day work and which can be
availue both professionally and somehow reccreationally as a part a person.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
So I think for me.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
That is the I think that is like, if it's
anything that I'm a presenting about golf is the parent community.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
And I really that a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Thank you, Uh mister Malka over to you say.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Yes, that topic is a touching one, the one we
bend there were venturing into right now.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
You see, access to courses.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Is the biggest problem we're facing right now in NISA.
All the kids needs to go to Campton Park, where
as members of Campton Park they are today. Like Brabilia's
just said, seegate is doing it's not doing much for
(40:43):
for Tbisa as far as well saying and and and
that it's a said it's a sad situation because even
workers segated, most of them are coming from Tennisa.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
And people staying in seagated, like Brabilius said.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
They come from more so than there are those that
are coming from Tunison. And it's a problem. We've been
trying as an executive of Tembisa Golf Club to try
and you know, speak to e. G. You who are
in charge of golfing a guru lane and they say
we must talk to the clubs.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
They can give watches.
Speaker 7 (41:23):
After we're spoken to the club after we agreed with
the club. Some of the clubs, like James, then they
allow us to play a reduced fee because of this
situation where we under privilege and we're having some old
cadies that are not that cannot afford to patrin and
(41:44):
fifty three undred and ninety five hundred or nine undred
like they pay in surrogating nine and red.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Friends.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
These guys cannot work, but they love golf so much.
I'm talking about their adults now, and we love golf
so much, but they cannot affair to afford to go
paying an undergrandgate seregated a good golf course, challenging. It's
good to you know, to measure your games. I guess
against such golf courses. But you know who can afford
(42:15):
to go playgate?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
No one can.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
We need to try and say, probabili, can you try and.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Organize a discount for us as senate? And then they can.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
They said, the discount with a golf cart because you
serve an underground. Yeah, you know, we're still lucky that
Captain Park is charging us like under the under twenty
rund to play the under fifteen rent to play a
game of eighteen holes at Campton Park. We're still lucky
(42:46):
that but after a lot of hussles with them back and.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Forth, we ended up agreeing.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
But golf courses like Sgate can do the golf courses
like Irene can do that, you know, access to our
juniors because now the golf for for for me personally,
my passion.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Is the juniors.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
To see the juniors going up to a level where
they can compete with other juniors of other colors. Now
change because these juniors will go to a golf course,
they get there, they don't have food, they don't have drink,
some of them don't even have transport together.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And now it's about club.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
We we we set ourselves up that we're going to
assist where we can.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
When our juniors are going.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
To play wherever, we'll support them with the transport, support
them with it.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
But from from what you know, we're strapping here.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
And there, and the golf courses are support support us.
And I see the other races have been supported. There's
a bussard goes take kids to go play wherever they
want to play in the week.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
And they have supported these kids. But our kids are
not supported.
Speaker 7 (44:00):
So if we want to grow this game of what
we really need to focus more on the kids.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Giving a change.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
Without the youth, every political party without the youth lead
after everyone dies that political party with and that change. Yeah,
so we need our youth. We need to focus more
on our youth.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
So that so that even.
Speaker 7 (44:25):
When we we will retire all week, because you at God,
you don't actually retire, you just die while you play
that I'm gonna die play.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
So but then what would you leave behind? You know?
And we and now my sign has got a grandson,
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
I can wait for this point to be like a year,
so two years also I can start him as well
like I did with this fat Yeah, you know, to
do all those things. But you know, we really need
to leave a legas so.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
The people that have money, they look the other way.
They don't know.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
They don't want to say, okay, how many kids inter
me and say, okay, we'll got forty five.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Kids into me.
Speaker 7 (45:14):
Let me have three of them pay for their golf
to go play, I pay for their transport. You know,
it's something, it's really really something. So business people really
need to think outside.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
The box to assist because.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
If we rely on them, they don't care about us.
So if we don't care about ourself. Now we really
going noway slowly.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
So it's a sad story and it touches me a
lot when I see this happened.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
I know where I came from with my boy up
to where he is. You know, I straggled a lot,
the mother, struggling a lot, pull some strings everywhere for
him to buy, strings everywhere for him to go to everywhere.
And we still owe some money somewhere, but we got
him to where he is right now. Where is now
(46:12):
can ride his own horse and go west. You know,
So is the potential, especially in our location. In terms
I speak more about them, there's a potential.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Those boys, they can hit the ball.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
But when the ten seventeen eighteen, the normal youth, where
do they go?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
What happens to them? Who looks like no one? Oh hey,
I don't know. But we really really need to really think.
Speaker 7 (46:45):
I think maybe this what you're having today should continue.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
We need to have it.
Speaker 7 (46:51):
That's a month, or that's a month or once every
two mans.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
We really need to have it because then when we
leave here, we go out, we start talking to other people,
and you know, we might get somewhere as a people,
as lex people.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Let's show that no one percent.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Yeah, I agree with you, Brahmish, and I think it
lies curely on the on the souls of black business.
The government has opened up opportunities that people have become
billionaires literally through government contracts, but you don't see that
money trickling back into communities and making a difference. And
and you know, nobody's going to hold us accountable unless
(47:32):
we start holding ourselves accountable. Like Brahmis said, you know
you can ask him. I've been I've been a sponsor
of timself for a long time and I've been doing
it on my own and nobody was showing up, you know.
And and we know there are people who are multi
multi millionaires, but they will never show up and help
kids or whatever. And I think as black people, we
must hold each other accountable. They are people with money,
(47:54):
They're just people would like to appease them and smile
with them and have whiskey with them, but they never
say to them, hey, my brother, you know, are you
supporting Tamisa Golf Club with what kids here? I mean
sometimes transport can be six hundred return for a venture.
I mean, really, can you pay for six months that money.
(48:15):
They spend it, go go, go buying some pay for
the slay queens. You know, they can take half of
the slay.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Queen budget and give it to these kids.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
And we must be we must call it what it is,
we support it for each other and this has to
come to an end. Otherwise who will always be a nation?
I mean, think about it. We have not produced a
real black champion in the continent, let alone in South Africa,
and yet we got people as every other corner. It
just shows that we don't care. And I think we
(48:45):
need to be able to hold each other countable. We've
got people that are in government, We've got people that
are see oh HR directors and big corporations. They've got
social budgets, social responsibility budgets.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
It must be shifted.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Tembisa is surrounded by by play vill oliphants.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Then the effectories.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
We've got the Kempton Park, I've got's part in god
Is Sand. You know those are the four major industrial
hubs and a learning But you don't see money coming
there into the township and uplifting our kids to really
get because if we really give our kids an opportunity,
I mean Tiger Woods was started at a very early age.
And look how elegid you know, so we have to
(49:22):
really hold each other contac and I think it's doable,
and you know we can do this, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
One hundred percent, gentlemen. And like in African folklore they say,
so the minute that we, as the elderly generation, we
we turn a blind eye on such things, then, like
mister Maluca said, there will be no continue The whole
(49:50):
legacy will collapse and we're going to constantly go in
cycles and repeat the same things, complain about the same things.
But the responsibility lies with us and everybody else out
there who has who is of the same view to say, listen,
let's peak with one voice, and let's start engaging these things.
Because inevitably tomorrow we are we are, we won't be here.
(50:12):
But what would be of our kids? What would be
of that kids as well, because they wouldn't have the
foundation that is required less Leminiti. Just like Tiger Wood,
he started very young, and it's because somebody whom of
which was his father at the point in time, said
you know what, this is what I'm gonna do for
(50:34):
my son. But just imagine, as an individual, you do
that for your child and you do that for your
neighbor's child, the same uh, the same thing will pass
over to be a domino effect because once somebody sees
something good coming out of nothing, they want to replicate it.
And I think that's one thing that we have to
do as a as a community, especially a goal a
(50:57):
social golfing community, say Okay, we didn't have the opportunity
to tend pro, but we've got the opportunity now to
actually extend a hand to the upcoming generation and put
them in this thing, because it's not just about them
being professional sportsmen. It's about them leaning networking skills, learning
business skills, leaning proper life skills so that people are
(51:21):
able to make the right decisions in life. So that's
my ten cents with at the moment, gentlemen. But because
due to time constraints, I'll have to leave you here,
and once again I have to say a big, big
thank you to all three of you for your input,
(51:42):
your knowledge, your wisdom for continuously and constantly building this
skulfing community, especially black social golfers. But before I let you,
gentlemen go, I'm going to ask a huge face from
each one of you. It's it's not that big Master Maluka,
(52:06):
I can see your face light.
Speaker 6 (52:08):
Dear.
Speaker 7 (52:11):
No, no, no, I'm paying I'm really paying attention because
what you said and what Barbili has said, it's you know,
it's up to us. We really really need to honor.
We need to own these things. We cannot expect people
to help on our day. They will just start it.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
So we really need.
Speaker 7 (52:36):
To ourselves make sure it goes the way we as
the people wanted to.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
One hundred white tu sans. So with that being said, gentlemen,
please allow me to ask for that one big favor.
The favor is very simple. We are in twenty twenty five.
The three, the three and the four of us have
(53:03):
the same vision, which is to enjoy golf in the
most relaxed, the most comfortable communities in our own rights.
But at the same time, I think we have the
same vision to say, we want to impart something in
the community at large, whether it be a way of encouragement,
(53:27):
whether it be from your own experience, something from your
own experience, would you mind perhaps sharing with our audience
something that you can leave them with, something that will
stay forever in the thoughts in their hearts and drive
them to actually push this social black social golfing community
(53:47):
into your heights.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
Okay, yes, my, my, my parting shots. We don't die
the day we stop breathing. We die the day we
stop dreaming. And that's the next thing we've got to dream.
We can understand that our dreams are the ones that
are going to propel our souls to achieve great and
amazing things.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Mm hmm. Very profound, very profound than that.
Speaker 6 (54:10):
I think from my side, one of the biggest things
is the only way for us to move forward but
to start creating things on our own and for our
own people. So as much as the might do community
that can come into into our old communities, come and help.
That's always remember that it starts with me, start with us.
(54:30):
So whatever we do, whatever you want, what we can
dream of, it can never be in one responsibility.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
But it starts use the men in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Hey, okays, you're shooting big, big, big, big wisdom with
the best of our Look from your side.
Speaker 7 (54:48):
Say my side, I've got so much that I can say.
But right now I think I think as that I
have already seen the way forward. I think we really
need to extend the helping hand to pull the one
that I left behind. As we all know, we are
(55:10):
rather skippers, so when that is being said, it doesn't
mean black brother. So yes, let's extend the hand to
everyone that wants to travel this world and and help
them whichever way we can, and direct them to where
they can get help from if we cannot assess ourselves.
(55:33):
But let's be open to this thing and be acceptable
to any any request that comes our way so that
we can move forward with this thing.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
No, gentlemen, once again, I have to say a huge
thank you for everything that you've shared with us in
this hour, and thank you once again to your family's
friends and colleagues who've also afforded you the time to
actually join us today. We are extremely grateful, and we
(56:05):
hope that there will be a continuation of such conversations
moving forward into twenty twenty five. And the biggest thing
that I hope for is that it won't just be conversations,
it will be with being converted into action, which is
the most important thing. We need to start driving this
sheep because it belongs to us. Nobody else can make
(56:28):
a horse drink water except for the horse itself. You
can show it the river, but you can't force it
to drink otherwise you'll end up drowning it. With that
being said, gentlemen, I have to say a great thank
you and may you have a lovely evening. Feather.
Speaker 5 (56:44):
Thank you very much, gentlemen, another beautiful one.
Speaker 7 (56:48):
Hope to play with you very soon. We'll make it happen.
Organize a game where we can.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
Play absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Thanks, make it happen.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Just go on.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Say all right, ladies and gentlemen, we have come to
the end of our segment today. As I said, it
is twenty twenty five is the first episode, and you
saw from the get go that we are on fire
this year. Three guests, the three wizards, and I believe
there's more wizards out there when it comes to golf.
(57:24):
I'm looking forward to seeing how the year will progress.
And as the conversation went, ladies and gentlemen, whoever you are,
wherever you are, however you are, please please, please please,
let's reel in more people into this spot. Let us
not allow this spot to die. The people who started
playing the sport in South Africa are already seasoned. It
(57:46):
is our ten. Now is the youth and the ones
who are currently playing the sport to actually real in
the younger generations and make sure that they also taste
this beautiful addiction that we all have. With that being said,
ladies and gentlemen, I have to say arios good night,
and you know, because it's Wednesday, the weekend is officially opened.
(58:10):
If you're going to work tomorrow, I have to say congratulations.
That's one of my New Year's resolution, to make sure
that people go to work on Thursdays, because I had
a lot of complaints last year. Companies were complaining that
people are saying Tony Tone said, don't go to work.
So please please go to work on Thursdays until further notice.
When I come back and say the weekend starts on
(58:30):
a Wednesday, Shout out to everyone who's been following us.
Shout out to everyone who has joined us along the way.
I love you. The one and only magician Tony Tones
signing out the magicians
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