Episode 10 - "The Wise Tooth"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Banana and.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Rubbie that is a goal for Jay Hotnett. Yes, and
it is in the guise of John Hodnett this week
for obvious reasons, which we'll get to. Welcome to Banana
and Bears Rugby Podcast. If this is your first time
listening for Anna always she takes a handle that freaks
me out sometimes because it's somebody we both know every

(00:25):
so often and be like Jesus, But it's this weekend.
Is the lovely, lovely well dressed man that is John
had hot not cheese. Come as, how are you keeping?
Are you buzzing? Before we get to your experiences of
the game, how were you playing? Were playing this weekend?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
No? The weekend off?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Nice? Nice?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah? Our first game is next weekend, so we had,
yeah weekend off to spend all weekend to the pub.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
How is training going? I meant to say, do.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know what? It was very hard last week because
last week was our first week back. It's been very intense.
But I've been sick this week and for the flipping
wisdom too rare its head this week. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so actually, like I have haven't been totally at the races. Well,
it's okay, busy week because I was giving my rugby

(01:21):
seminar last week, full on back into the swing of things.
I'm doing my obviously my keep using the French words,
my form what you call it, my course coaching course,
which is full on as well, so busy up the
walls and then have a flipping wisdom tooth that's literally
trying to take me out, and I'm just like, no, no, nope,

(01:41):
keep going, keep going, and your flams taking some strong
medicamo and it's just getting back.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
On the Do you know what you're like? You're like
that cousin that came back after a long weekend in
fucking Italy. You know he accidentally keeps on stumbling into
the language of where they just came. Sorry, was I was?
I just speaking in another Oh no, sorry mony me?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, would you stop that? I never do things like that.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Noairs, you don't, do you know what I know?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Because I feel like a bollocks either way.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
So no, But you know what, that's the good cork
in you is and self awareness and self criticism in you,
because I was, I was thinking of you today. I
was talking about the Croatian guy and he's he's he's rotund,
the same chap. He likes his sweeties, and he's just
been in Italy and he's it's a nice way of saying,

(02:39):
as a fat fucker live, but he is. He tells
you that himself, like he was raging. He was back.
He was just back from Croati and he flew intough
Italy and he was raging and he couldn't bring me
back any horse meat. I was like, oh, yeah, me too, raging.
But he described in the airport in Italy how excited
he was to find a foot long croissant. And I thought,

(03:01):
as a Croatian, surely he'll get this some way right
while fuck me, he absolutely, he's been in Tip a
long time. He called it a cross aunt. I was like,
and it would be fucking rage and if she was
here right now. Although I do want to find out
where they make a footlight because I was trying. I
was saying this to my wife. She was like, Tom,
there's a standardized European measurement for crosshants. There's no way
they make one thirty centimeters long. Have you you're in

(03:25):
the home across hunts, have you seen a bigger one
than the usual?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, there are giant ones. I had one in London
and you wouldn't get them here in a normal bakery.
But they have become like everything, an instagrammable thing to
sell and make money. But they're absolutely ridiculous because one
crossant is more than enough, one is enough. What was

(03:51):
too much like the big massive ones that you've caught
with a knife.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
And share, like, no sense, that's just getting American on
the hole stage. Is there even a plural for crossants
in French?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Like yeah, but like in French like, uh, you just
you don't pronounce the end of the world, so you
can you can only tell them it's plural kind of
by reading it, or.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Two of them come out, you're like, well, I suppose
it's plural.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Now litter a big, massive fucking joint. One cross could
be here on you were saying, there we have any
low listeners. We do have new listeners because I spent
all weekend recruiting for our podcast. Yeah, but yeah, a

(04:43):
lot of Leinster folks will have to you know, we'll
have to pare back what we say about Leinster. That's
not actually true, that's not actually true. New listeners we love,
we love Leinster, but yeah, yeah, like loads of new listeners,
So shout out to the last.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Have you with us great and to the people who
own it. Turns out the message back I was telling
you about what I was chatting with the people that
run U r C. So they will be listening this
week as well as well to the podcast with interested ears,
so that we'll watch this space. We'll see what comes comes.

(05:24):
Maybe not them at all, but you're all very welcome
for jumping on board. I swear to God there is
some rugby in this podcast, not just myself. And now
I will say if you have an AI tool that
can search the word croissant, and you can, you can
scrub through all of our episodes, you will find it
does come up a lot. I'll have to admit that
now it does. It does come up a fair bit.

(05:45):
But I'm we're out of the snow. In other news,
before we jump into the rugby. Finally we're out of
the snow. I had to fashion like something only an
Amish farmer would fashion for as a plow to pull
behind my old landro and uh yeah, finally got us
out of here on Saturday slash Sunday by plowing it

(06:06):
with some palettes and concrete blocks. It was the most
like if you I should have actually videoed it, but
you know what, I was coursing and swearing the whole
You know, when you're doing a thing that would be
absolutely great for socials if you had somebody floating around
you with a camera, but you know you're in that
kind of form that you're not even going looking for
the fucking foot.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Like did you do that? Though? Like some do, you know,
like Alona Mater, like they're not their reason, but one
of the reasons her content is so good is because
her sister is with her all the time. Her sister
takes all her videos, like they're constantly on content creation.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
The fitness and what's his name, the y the one
that was during lockdown for kids. His brother films everything.
It's him that does everything, Joe Joe eggs. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
I don't know. I'm not great to be around when
I'm human. Still, I know it's probably funny from a

(07:05):
distance to see me cursing and swearing and feign palettes
around the place and whatnot. But yeah, it would have
winnly been a great time. But we got out. We
got out, and thank Christ for that. But look at
I suppose we'll will anything. Any updates on your life?
Do we? Are you okay? You haven't nearly died from

(07:26):
some food, You didn't fall off a bike, nothing else, No, nothing.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Too dangerous, and no no cleavery this weekend either.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Other than the two stealing your stealing your wisdom. I
believe they do. I think. Don't think they give you
with them. I think they steal your wisdom.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
That's for sure. But I know I had. I actually
sent you a few messages over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
You did, you did, but.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Which were very funny but like as a funny moment
for me and funny me thinking back on them. But yeah,
had obviously Munster was Friday night, No Saturday night, Saturday
Saturday night. Well it's so funny because on Friday I had,
I had done, like I was saying a seminar last week,
So was up the walls. Went straight to training for

(08:18):
Friday night. We finished quite late, but I came home
and I was obviously my training gear, but was like
on the way home, was like I'll stick my head
and see if there's any Leinster friends in town yet,
and like so shut me into McNulty's. There was a
few round and they were like, come in, Noel who
owns the pub who people will know of. No said

(08:41):
Monday morning and have a pint. So I had one
point Friday night and people are coming up to real life. Right,
you're got your it's gus, you're in your shorts. You
were here in your shorts last year as well. Right,
I've done the same thing last year when Leinster were
in town. I had got on for a point of
the Friday night coming home from training. So I had

(09:04):
done like literally, people were like, Jesus, is a woman
in shorts? Hang on, there was a woman in shorts
your last that's the same fucking one. So like I
was like, Jesus, yeah, I remember you. I remember you
were chatting away about just you know, catching up with
the whole friends as they say, from the year from
the same pub the year before.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
And you're like not cheers, like you're just they just
assume now that you're in shorts every evening inside that's.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Because no there they were like when I went in
and the Saturday, people like Joe didn't break good bye
your trousers that on the Saturday. On the Saturday came

(09:57):
in to watch Monster. Now they this is a good
conversation that I was looking forward to bringing up there
and I was happy to chat to people from Leinster
about this. On Saturday. Uh, everyone everyone in the pub
was going from Monster right good. All the Leninswer fans
and there's a good few of them now will say
to me, why don't you know who are you? We

(10:20):
supported who? Like lads? Larachelle is my club, like the
one that gives me the tickets. I can't but I
can't take tickets from Larchell. Sit with all the Larchell
crowd and then shout for Leinster, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Like you literally play for Larachelle. There's a question but.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Like but no, but there is like even from the French.
The French are so strange. The French kept saying to me,
well done, well done, well done, well done, and like
oh the Irish or the Ars like Kevin, they just
don't understand. They don't get that thing at all of
like rivalry. But even the Leinster people now will go
back to that Lencer people saying why don't the Monster

(10:58):
fans support Leinster. I'm like, well, look, it was very deep.
I was like I used to support Leinsters, you know,
when when Monster were better than Leinster. So it's very
easy for you to sit there now and say you
support Munster because you know there's no threat. That's how
I used to be. I used to support Leinster in
the exact same way back in like two thousand and

(11:20):
two thousand and two three, when Leinster or nowhere like
it was, you know guaranteed like when you'd be shouting
for Leinster, they were end of the day. Yeah, absolutely,
and as well especially they were referring particular particularly to
the game in Dublin where a load of Monster fans

(11:41):
came up to support Larachell. I'm like, so, not only
do you have this rivalry where Leinster is like basically
standing on on you know, Munster's head, like in terms
of like dis party in in in how let's call
a space spade where we are currently in Ironhrugby, Leinster
is far better than Monster at the moment, but also

(12:04):
the Ronano gar thing, like Ronan O'Gara was dethroned by
Johnny Sexton, and ron Garret doesn't just any Monster player.
Nara was the savior off Monster Rugby who was de
thrown by Johnny Sexton for an Irish jersey. That huge
rivalries that also adds to people supporting Larachelle and not Leinster,
like it's so it's so deep. It's not just like, oh,

(12:27):
you should be scorning us because you're irish. Like there's
so many things to it. And I tried it as
best I could to stand up for us monster people,
but we're so upset that we weren't supposed to Leinster.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
They sound like people who only came on board in
about two thousand and nine, twenty ten. Anyway, So there's
a rule. Yeah, listen, if you were there long enough,
you'd understand there's a rule to to to these things.
And it's it's called punching up. You're only allowed to
punch up. You're not allowed to punch down. That's just
the rule of social behavior. Like you're you're an asshole

(13:05):
if you punch down, I e. Leinster are so far
above Monster that you're not, it'll be socially unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Start.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
But like punching, okay, not quite punching conduct or Ulster,
but you know what I mean. You can't punch down.
You can punch up. You can always punch the king,
but you can punch the peasants. And I know I'm
not you know that's that's the rule of it. Like,
so that's why they probably go. But we're just there
for isn't rugby the winner? You're like, what why would
you play any sport if you don't have rivalry and

(13:34):
damn near hatred? Like why why would you not play?
Why would you play sport unless you have a visceral
wand to beat the little place out of your neighbor
Like what, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
It's funny, it's funny. It is funny, and it probably
changes kind of seasons to season, and it probably goes
back as far as like the previous encounter or what
happened that season, and then that just continues for a years.
So this is something that's age old, like I'll never forget,
like losing to Leinster and crow Park, like that's one
of my worst rugby memories.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
There's also what came out in the news today, what
has been more or less admitted is that Leinster have
a budget of sixteen million. Munster and Ulster I think
have pretty much half that, if even if even Ulster
have half that to play around with, so and even

(14:33):
I think, like forget about portl Conduct, like they're not
even at the race, but sixteen fucking million, they got it,
No wonder you're able to hang on to fellas like
you know, like fucking lads who haven't seen a fucking
ball and I know how long, like when was the
last time he saw Will Connor is playing for Leinster,
like he should be playing some class in the in
the in the Premiership.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Like but I would say as well that like most
of the Leinser are actually all of the Leinster fans
who just came up with and there were you like
we had a few points like so there was a
good few people that I spoke to about this topic,
which was like they all were saying they want a
harder domestic league, like send those players to other provinces,

(15:13):
like you know, get distribute the wealth, kind of distribute it.
And I'm like, yeah, I get you. But also those
players don't want to go anywhere else, like look how
good some of the young players are down a Munster
and there's just there's just nowhere near an Irish squad,
Like they haven't even been invited into camp. Do you

(15:35):
know the players in Leinster know that they'll be if
there's invites going They even without playing too often for Leinster,
will be called in before someone like Flipping gag and
Gavin Cooks gaging koos. Do you know like they're they're

(15:56):
too afraid because the resources are in Leinster A few.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, it's up the road. It's up the road from
can Andy Farrell's house. You know what I mean. And
that's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
But the Lenser fans they spoke were all of the
same opinion that they wanted a stronger domestic league and
they want like the redistributed. They probably didn't finish up
by saying what they really thought was just like we
want the stronger, but we still want to win everything,
so we only give you so much. We're not we're
not getting back are here, We're keeping are here.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So you met so first and foremost for the listeners,
And I got voice notes from from Anna and they
were What was funny was they were getting progressively the
more giddy, and it was like a jealous too, because
you're on you're on it, like and but you pose
the question. I was like, what you know, Christ, I'm

(16:51):
not fully sure. We were like, don here's a question.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
The train.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, I was like I was I was doing something
like I was trying to I think I was trying
to prop up at my fucking gutters from the nine
ton of snow that was fucking sitting in it at
the time. And I listened to.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Were sending your voice notes from the prone.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Boat and I'm snowed into fucking this Alaskan fucking wilderness
that were at the time like what, No, it wasn't angry.
It's actually explained.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
This actually explained your response, because you were like, fuck
that guy. And I was like, genuinely, so let me tell,
let me tell there's what happened. But we were probably
talking about, you know, like what I was talking about
two thousand and six, the quarterfinal Perperna versus Perpernon and
the semifinal versus Leinster in Lansdown Road. Yes, and I

(17:42):
was saying like it like that. We were young, and
we we only had a handful of people with us
that were eligible to actually purchase alcohol and drinking on
the train and all the rest. And one of them
genuinely at hell. Now, he wasn't being hang on out.
How did you put it? A bit of a ballocks
or however you put it. Someone asked me a question.
He was like, what is it like taking the train

(18:05):
home from Dublin after a match.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, that is literally like what I heard there was
so you guys have electricity down there, that's what I
heard time. No, it's a bit not. My view is
offened a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Because he was genuinely being honest, and I was like,
what a great question. I never considered what like that
you had to get the whole the train home after
you know, g matching park games and landsdown road, whereas
dumb people just go straight over straights, actually going on
a train or a boss with your bodies with drink

(18:45):
trapped in like you know post match orb like we're
literally trapped in time of post match. You know. Analogy
and sing Song were some of the best days of
my life, so of the best sport like even just
life experiences I've ever had, so many amazing memories. And

(19:08):
like I was explained this to him and it was
like generally from a place of like oh, because he said,
you know, whenever they put out to Limerick or whatever,
like they will stay and it's not the same, you know,
whereas you're going to Dublin like just for the day
and you can't stay or make a weekend out of it.
But like a was the fabulous question. And I'm sure
like load of monster people would agree if they've If

(19:28):
they I'm sure they've had like people so many people
had the same experience of like getting back on the
train and fucking singing the whole way back down home
and getting pitty eid on the train. It's it's fucking
brilliant and people in Dublin sitting at home and they're sorry, urses.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It made sense like today and yesterday I was thinking,
what the fuck? Oh yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, there's like
everybody wants the party to continue, and the party does continue,
and you know what I mean, all the way on
the bus or the train or whatever that you're in.
But when's the way I took the I was just
trying to find the message there. But it could be
one of about seven hundred song and I've got to

(20:04):
go play them all. But all I can remember was, yeah, yeah,
do you know what that sounds like to me? Not
that sounds like a bottles being smarmy or something. Do
you know? Do you know what it's like? Do you know?
Do you know it's like anything with fucking Dublin in
the rearview mirrors lovely to look at but I was.
I was not in a good place when I was

(20:24):
on to be there. I was in an angry fucking place.
I was done with the snow.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Bird timing by me, so myself and the lads I
was chatting too. Was a great question what it is?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And I suppose it is kind of yeah, when you
have no grasp of it, like what what's it like
for you? What's year postmatch experience like? And it is
great when you have one and all the rest of it,
but even you have to have each other when you
have lost. But come here you and I sent me
a series of messages while at the larch laricha Leinster game.

(21:00):
We may as well get that game out of the way.
We get talking to about monster in a second, but
every thirty every three months, so I would get this video,
this video message on Sunday and I was driving back.
I was driving, I picked up a Chinese. We got
a Chinese for the first time because I think we
were just house bound for so long, like let's just

(21:20):
get food from out. And I was coming back and
I was listening to the radio, and you know, Michael
Carchran has done his best and he's given it this
that and the other, and every message would come through
and I'd pull up on traffic with it and then
Anna's just middle finger pointing up at And it wasn't

(21:42):
just one time, It was like five different messages of
your middle finger slowly coming into shot from the stands always.
But it was very funny that it was. There was
no dialogue, it was it was just this, this sentient
and though it was like the Adams family. Hand had

(22:02):
gone to the match by himself and was just watching
that riswapstick his middle finger up at the fucking just
the leinster lids.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
It was so funny because when Archie someone came down
to warm up, which we know why he is what
he warms up now, he's not a lift start and uh,
the whole like tribune, what do you call it, the
whole stand is was watching him like no one was
watching the match anymore. Everyone was looking Orgie something. You
can hear all the French people like like you took

(22:32):
that motherfucker there. He's fucking massive and like he hadn't
his big warm up coat tied up, so when he
was running back up it like filled with air and
it made him look even bigger. But it's so funny
and previous listeners will know and obviously you know, like
we absolutely like adore Orgie Simon. I would like all

(22:53):
the hate we give for him is purely out of love.
And like I felt bad then because after the match,
I was like, I was just standing by the Boss,
the Leinster Boss, and he came out and I was like, oh, no,
ask for a picture and I was like, we really
miss you from Monster and took a picture and he

(23:15):
was like oh, and then he just left so.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
And said, listen, you you owe us always jumping on
the podcast, your rotten bastard. Come on now, you know
the town fella. He roasted you badly last summer, So
com on now this is scandless. You haven't spoken out
about it properly, and it's take your chance to apologize
to all of Monster for just leaving us. But yeah,
it was. It was a great picture, like he's stand

(23:42):
there and you've just been sticking like it was a
great story that you've been sticking your finger up and
all through the match. And then you said.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
But I actually hate you.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Look like child.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Dad.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I actually hate when people do that, you know, when
people are like this fucking wanker and then they wait
and take pictures of him. That's not what I was doing.
Like the middle finger is literally because it's like lovers
tiff because fuck it, we of course his injury free

(24:21):
now which course we said, we said it. But anyway,
the Leinser game back, and then Leinser's defense is far
too good, like there's no place for perfect defense and rugby, honestly,
it makes for very ship rugby. Thank god for Jenna
Leeds he was able to somehow like manipulating it in behind.
And actually there were some great moments in the game,

(24:43):
but just the defense was just far too strong, which
makes it very boring to watch. And there was a
brilliant like ramp up of energy towards the end and
it looked like Larachelle might hang on to the ball.
And later when there was a knock on just you know,
literally went from cover cover.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
H yeah, it's such a letter.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's such a fall off the side of the cliff up.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And then but to be fair, Larrachelle like they losing
their two props early doors and not having monsters skeleton
like it was a big, big glass. I think there's
four or five non starters that were missing. As well.
That's not giving them an excuse or whatever. But at
the same time, I think I think they would, you know,

(25:34):
had they had they had a bit more meat up front,
had they kept those two props, Like when he went
off early doors and the other chap went off early doors,
You're like, flack, like, it's gonna be an uphill struggle here.
If that's that's the case. It was, Yeah, it was.
It was just I reckon if they got him again
on another day with if they had a full deck

(25:56):
on board like Leinster had, I think it might be
a different store.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, Yeah, who knows, Jesus, like
going like years of old, they'll probably have another encounter
in the season alas I am just goning for if
it's we'll see the after next again, if it's still possible,
but a monster Shell encounter, yes see.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, we'll know. We'll know more after after the weekend.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
But yeah, Jesus, it was. There's something. Yeah, there's that
they are something else. But it seems I say that,
but Leinster always seemed to just have one more ratchet
above your last click? Do you know what I mean?
You're like, now, all right, watch this, you know, and
you've Kaylin Darrison starts ripping balls off lads, and you've
Georgie Barrett out the fucking what I mean? Like, so well,

(26:50):
it was either way a humdinger of a match. But
people were giving out that, you know, some of the
new rules and things like that. But I don't know,
but we both you watched you watched the Monster match.
It was like a monster of old, wasn't it? The
the way the stadium was absolutely rocking?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
What?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
How did how did that sound? Was it Europe? How
did the tom would just have suddenly just rocking to
life there?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, that's the same to you. That was one of
my other voice notes. I was saying, like, yes, it
was rocking. But also because because we've been talking about
this in one of the things that I was speaking
about in my seminar is how smart Shell were to
not build a massive stadium that they had to struggle
to fill every week, which is we obviously were speaking
of about that before, about their one hundred sold out

(27:39):
match where everyone's just crammed in. But like, do you
remember the old Homo Park where you'd just be literally
like penguins thng was down the Arctic trying and keep
warm because they're so crammed on top of each other.
But I was like, because yeah, it was a sold
out game, but you could see down in the stands
there was an awful elbow room. So my question she
was like, I wonder this still account for all the

(28:01):
kids that you'll be railing over the wall. Remember it
used to be like raining children with all the kids
falling over the wall and running at the same time
to try not get caught. And I wonder, just phone
parks still allowed for that, so that they don't say
they say it sold out, but there's still lots of
space fell out for the raining children.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Such a description the Raining Children of Limerick the h
There was a play by John B. Gean back in
the day, The Raining Children of Limerick. They put it
down as twenty two thousand at the game, which is
still tidy turnout either way. Whether they were accounting for
the precipitation of infants, oh yeah, but either at twenty

(28:45):
two thousand, they just seemed to be one. I think
I loved it. I don't know if you copped it. I
don't don't At first vex me for split second. Then
I sawt in the media. You went, no, I'm actually
loving this was Jack O'dnaho, everybody's favorite Jack O'dnaughho what
stomping back on? Because he's got the most country walk
of all time, even though I don't think he's not
a country live, but he's got the most hillbilly walk.

(29:07):
And he's walking back on after at you know, halftime,
as the game is about to kick off and Zombie
is playing and he's singing it while walking back on.
Did you cop that? No?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
No, I didn't that.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
It was just he had a big smile on his face,
like going and in that first split second like what
you're doing you're not taking it seriously. And then the
other part of my brain went, oh no, no, no,
he's so in it right now. He is fucking loving this,
this war that's about to start. I'm like, yeah, oh,
that's where you need to be actually, not always the

(29:40):
big stoic, hard face somebody who's that much of a lunatic,
you know, like the guy, the Irish guy in Braveheart
who's roaring laughing like you know it, he's like our Lord says,
I'd be fine with your fuck like that mad bastard.
There was a madness in it that you're singing along
to the cranberries. You know, you're a European rugby brilliant, brilliant.

(30:00):
But I think a point there was. I mean, I
didn't want to be annoying you with texts and stuff
like that back and forth. I have done enough of
that in the past. Like we're literally commenting on the match,
like but the handling errors and stuff like that, and
it's like, what do you think that the pitch was
that shitty? That the ball was going? Was that slippy?
Like like the lads are dropping dropping it out of

(30:23):
their fucking hands like ty Burne does it early doors,
you know, and you're.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like what, yeah, come on, But that's that's not rare either,
like that, that's that's happening most weekends. Like, but it's
not like they're they're professionals. They're professionals. It's not a
thing of them not practicing enough skills, like they're very
fucking skilled. It's it's a thing of unsuredness or timing.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
M don't I don't know, Like I don't know, like
literally like yeah, full on professionals for you, Like, come on,
you can at least catch the ball and then we'll.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
See where we can go from there. But yeah, handling hers.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, because super exciting when yeah, it's super exciting when
stuff starts sticking, you're like, oh gee, right, yes, why
where was your confidence at the beginning? You know? When
you know like that, Like now I know it was
madness the way popped out of his hands and it
could have been one of it could have been the
try of the entire rugby season worldwide. Jack Crowley's double

(31:33):
kicked through for himself and then he catches it and
then it just squirts out of his hands. Oh my god,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's actually it's hard watching monster. It's so nervy.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
That's literally the old man.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
This is the first watching it through your fingers.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
He the old man, or watched it the next day
knowing the score. He says, I can't do it these days,
I can't fucking do it. Panic attacks watching them because
Jesus Christ almighties that you don't know. Once upon a
time you're going, oh no, we'll get another try here,
this is us. We're on, We're on, And there was

(32:12):
there isn't that belief there at the moment, even though
out of or I mean, what what signing to get
for the brief period that we had him, because he's
gone again, I think the man. Then then Blue Her
I think, you know, is he gone to the Sharks
or the bulls. He's gone. He's gone back to but
a hell of a fine that guy. But then out
of nowhere, Gagan Coombs or Gagon Combs made that break

(32:37):
for his try. But it was pure beauty, like amazing ship.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Then for.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Your man John Harnett, like he's so like he is
and I know one or two like Leinster lads and
he is their favorite player because they just the love
on Twitter for John Hodnet is ludicrous, like like everybody
loves him, and it's because his wark rate and his

(33:06):
never say die is absolutely infectious. It jumps off the screen,
it jumps off the pitch into people's eyes. Gone, I
fucking love how this guy operates. He's just an absolute
pit bull, Like there's no stopping him. Once it got
like he's like that that X Men fucking juggernaut. Once
it gets going, you ain't hanging onto this You're not

(33:27):
hanging onto this guy. Like what an absolute fucking dream geez?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Like, Yeah, it was pure Europe and Rugby Night and
Limerick kind of a try.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yes, it was just.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Like like you know, the unselfishness and the timing of
the passes that like just laid up to it were
brilliant as well, like just a few like small and
jigsaw pieces that led to one man kind of where
you go, oh, that was the night of that try,
you know, like, oh yeah, remember that night when so

(34:01):
and so scored a certain try kind of like an
Andrew Conway moment or you know, it's like something like that.
It was fucking it was class and like the fall,
it was an unbelievable tap tackle and like the before
the line and everyone's like screaming at the pub like
Jesus Christ, and then he was so finish it off,

(34:24):
so fucking he has.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
He has a thing that I've seen before in people
in different in other sports, mostly m m A and
wrestling and boxing. He has a thing and it must
be an unbelieved believable physical awareness and he has that
quick twitch fiber. You can see it. Even though he
was tap tackled. A lot of people would just splat

(34:48):
on the fucking deck, you know, like a you know,
an upturned pancake for a split second. But he knew
you could see his eyes. He knew he'd been ankle tapped,
but he already went in into a fireman's role before
by before he hit the ground, so that he knew
he could just spin back up again and just dive
over the line. That spatial awareness as well to know

(35:10):
where the line was. But also in the blink of
eye that is his ankle had been tapped, He's like, okay,
can be quip and back up again. Look at me,
way you over the line like it barely broke his
stride because he did it so fluently, you know what
I mean. He wasn't looking for an offload. He wasn't
looking for anything. He was like, you know, I'm at
such speed here, it doesn't make a difference if you

(35:31):
chopped off both my fucking legs. I'm gonna spin over
the line here regardless. Yeah, an absolute fucking cracker. And
but then like you know, you were, I was. I
was talking about Jack Crowley just magically the ball squirting
out of his fucking leam. Williams did the same thing.
Jesus Christ. I was really watching the fingers, Oh my god.

(35:53):
And that that's why I kind of get That's why
I kind of give it a pass in one way.
I was like, Jesus Christ, and okay, maybe the ball
is weirdly covered in some sort of fucking frosty wet.
I don't know, because you wouldn't imagine he would do
the very same thing Jack Crowley did. But Christ above
it was a yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Obviously freezing as cold as well. Is that how cool
is it at all?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
It was.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
It would have been zero degrees in a round then,
like it would have been one, one, two maximum, Like,
so maybe there's that, there's that factor to factor in,
but it kind of looks like the sort of shit
you be doing early doors in the URC, you know
what I mean, when you're playing dragons or something. You're
still dropping the ball and shit, but you know it
comes right after a while. But as the outlet, he

(36:38):
had made a valid point. He can only have a
reference hurling because that's the only sport he really knows
much about. But he was like, sure, of course they
don't know timing to and the guy they're missing the ball.
It's a different fucking team every week as fell as
come back from injury or get injured. And I was like, oh, yeah,
that's the valid point you make because everybody passes the
ball differently. I'm not saying, okay, profession should be able

(37:00):
to slot in slot output for those very very minute
millisecond stuff. You know, like Farrell was playing alongside Nankeville,
you know for a bunch of games and now a
Ninthvill's out and Rory Rory scandal probably wouldn't be the
fastest distributor at the ball, you know, so maybe things
that you break down a little bit there or whatever.

(37:22):
But if that's just I'm just I'm clutching at straws.
I hope they can pull it together for Northampton at
the weekend because I didn't make it. Things that getting
very interesting if they beat them.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, but it's it's it's just like a monster thing,
isn't it, Like a we just like the game did
kind of turn up four and strings something together, kind
of like what they did against Arson's at the weekend,
you know, despite like lots of errors and kind of
disconnection connect like sometimes they're able to just kind of

(37:56):
pull some kind of performance out and just quite like
literally they watching through your fingers kind of kind of
vibe where you're like, gee, was Christ and they're still
able to produce something so dog a Dog night in
North Campton is what we just look forward to.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Did you see I don't know if you saw at
the very very end of the game where it cut
to Peter o'manhonny in the audience. Did you see that now?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
And John John Clang gets up just shakes his hand.
They were like two lads there after meeting had a
mart There wasn't a flicker of emotion between No, I
need to say that Petermanny had a farmer's hat on
as well, an old petty cap, but there wasn't a
flicker of emotion between the two of them. Was like, yeah,
well that's done now and out the gap. And I
was like, I tried to read into these things because

(38:45):
you know, O'Mahoney is so interesting, But I'm like about
them raging that they're not out there or is that
as happy as they get with each other? Like you
know what I mean. It was just a weird moment.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I say they were shitting themselves though right how close
it was like knowing that I don't know, if you know,
whenever just the competition could be on the line or okay, yeah,
the rest of their season, maybe that they were themselves

(39:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I suppose a split second camera shot doesn't tell the
whole story either, Like you know what I mean, I'm
trying to be I've been a bollocks of an anorak
here going what did that millisecond moment mean? You know,
like so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, but it is it is interesting to look into
those moments. So and like I suppose John Cline knows,
like Peter Mandy is not going to be like, well
Jesus isn't got a great relief now, like you know,
it's going to be said in training. He's not going
to be asking him like I think, especially Petermanny like
the fucking he only talks business when he really has

(39:49):
to and when he when when it's necessary. He's not
going to be making small chip chat out of the game.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
It's uh, yeah, well I look at class. What was
the what was the cract good in the puble when
you're watching it.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
It was yeah, yeah, it was good crack because yeah,
everyone was starting for for Monster apart from and sorry
this is actually a mentor refer to this something I
was asking when the Leinster frans were like why it
doesn't what's poor Monster? Well, about five minutes into it.
Whatever error that Jack Crowley made, because he did make
a couple.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Miss miss kick for that line, that line, fucking finder,
the touch finder. What's happened that? What is.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
What's so uncharacteristic of him? I think he's getting into
his head with this whole battle and fucking this ballocks
in front to be turned around and was like, now
does not that tell you why Sam Prendergrass is the Irish.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Tain Listen this, Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up
for ast bit second, Sam Prendigas, they are like they
have been absolutely pulling the wire off themselves to find
the next Johnny Sexton. That's clean and obvious and for
whatever reason, Leinster, don't look at Kieren Frawley. For my money,

(41:07):
Kieren Frawley is streets ahead of Sam brenda Gas. Sam
Prentigas has done nothing yet, nothing and he won't do
anything until he puts on about two stone. He has
done fuck all yet and this is pure the hype trained.
Oh this is the next Johnny. He'll lead us to
the World Cup, you know for the next twelve years.

(41:28):
He's done nothing like maybe he has and he looked
he looked weak at the weekend. I thought he looked weak.
He was lucky that there was a lot of good
players around him, like he didn't you know, he didn't
master it around the pitch, Like like I think Frawley
is a far superior player. He's a he's a monster
of a man size wise, like in defense, and you

(41:49):
need to be nearly an inside center these days. What
Crowley is and what you know, the likes of own
farrel kind of defined like he's got a long way
to go, my opinion.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
But none of them are without fault No. One and
number two, like like that's that's probably that's a problem
as well, Like the kind of the fact that there's
so many of them. And once you make an error,
are you literally saying to yourself, like Fox, it got
to be done now. So then that manifest like it's
all fair. I'm sure a lot of them are doing
a lot of psychological work to try and like stay,

(42:24):
you know, be the best player they can. But like
if we think about I guess for example, and like
we would have I would have said the same thing
about but like I remember Intomac being brought into the
French team very young, and everyone was like who the
fuck this guy hasn't proved himself at all, like at
some stage like when when do you bank on talent

(42:48):
and when do you go or sorry, talent relating to
potential and then just being like, yeah, we're just going
to give it to the young guy and then fucking
run with a few years because look at the likes
of Enomac now, for example, we're not so good at
that in Ireland either, you know, like fucking letting someone
blossom in the role so then they don't have this

(43:08):
whole nervous like, oh well I fucked up there now,
so that's my chance gone, you know, like actually being
backed from a young age so that you have someone
that's blossoming for a long while. So no, no, I
don't know. But I was very obsessed with your man's
comments and I think he realizes that award because he
was being very nice to me. And after that we

(43:32):
had a great sing song in which is why I
needed the month match.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
The well, that's a nicely pool. You segued us nicely
there with the possibility of the Ireland thing. The Ireland
team has come out today, the training squad team or
the overall squad sorry, and of course Brenda gas is
in it and everything else, but it's he's got a
I know, and if I likes him or whatever, needs

(43:58):
no doubt he's got like you mentioned, it's good to
get it, bring a young guy in to let him blossom,
givemnas on it. But I'm looking down through it here
and I'm like, we are not preparing for a fucking
World Cup, Like like even Joe Dody today and you
know what I mean for sometimes they can go. They
had Tomah Hearn and John Hadnett in the squad and

(44:22):
you're like, yeah, I can, yeah, definitely definitely at least
train with them. See what it is, They're not even
winning the fucking training squad. Like it's the exact same
like Baddy put in for in the training squad, they
have that chapter from the twenties Hugh Cooney. They have
called Ford and James mcneebe and Ben Murphy from Who

(44:44):
Deserves Ben Murphy from Connacht. But like there's like there's
nobody they've they've they've gone. They're I don't know, like
if they're preparing for a fucking World Cup with all
respect to the likes of you know, Kean Heally, like
due all due respect for what you don't like. I

(45:06):
know they'll go, well, look they'll be lads, they'll be
there'll be a summer tour to Romania wherever they're going.
What the fuck will that do for any fellow? Like
we've got a World Cup coming?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (45:15):
This is all I see these days? Because I'm sick
of fucking losing World Cups, Like we want loads of
six nations. We prove that, and I know they're going, yeah,
but we need money in every year, Like fucking Jesus,
would you thinking the money we'll get if we win
a World Cup? Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Like I am looking at it here now and I
am thinking, no, no, no, that was autominations. Where are
the six squads?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I'm looking at here like again Ian Henderson like in
Good Lads, but like he's done nothing in three years? Nothing?
Do you know? He's like Ryan Beard is due, He's
like he's back in and he is duet because he
had he's been playing some good stuff like but I
don't know, I mean, sorry.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Why you're right? Why on earth are Keen, Helen and
Henderson in there?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Like and you've Cornick shouldn't do cool?

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Worry about that now who.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
As well a fine player, but he's playing on a
shit team right now, so he's not playing good stuff.
I mean, okay, they maybe see something where he'd fit in,
but like you look at like what hotten at his
doing what he brings. Nobody else is bringing it. And
this is not me, my monster hat. There is nobody
doing what hatten Of is doing. There's nobody for sure

(46:30):
can do what Tom a Hearn can do. Holy shit,
he can play fifteen. He can play full back as
well as playing play in the second row or on
the fucking flank, like there's nobody he's six foot ten
or eleven as well. And he's been, you know, for
the want of them as suppose for four years he's
been taking advice from Orgie's Nyeman. Do you know, like

(46:53):
I would like, we are not gearing up for And
I mean, and I say this too with Petermanny like
he's amazing, but like he said to himself, he ain't
going to be different next World Cup. He actually said,
it's not hope, not a hopeful of a different.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Fucking realistic I'm sorry now and to kind of maybe
draw close to it and just give a word and
actually I know I chose John Hannah as my name,
but I knew they had another name in my head
that I wanted to choose to night, but a word
for flipping Connor.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Murray, Yes, yeah, yeah, well yeah, so well.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
And I'm delighted for him because you know, as an
older player, like and you know, you come to the end,
you're just like, oh my god, and you can give
into kind of all that kind of shit talk and resort. Okay,
well this is how it's going to end. I've probably
played out of his skin on Saturday. And I'm so
delighted format because he just he he hadn't kind of

(47:49):
played well for so long. But why on earth is
he in the Iron Squad?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
And Ben Murphy lad his trained. Maybe I wonder would
he be there if Craig case See was backfit? Do
you know again?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Maybe he wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
But then if Klein Blade in there? Like okay, all right,
but I mean, what has has what's his name done?
Like James and Givenson. Park is obviously in there, but
like what has christ I can't think of his name.
Luke McGrath, like he's not there? Is he? No? No,
he's not there.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
That's the thing, you know, when we're talking about the
monster players, but there's so many disappointed players all around
the country, and like some of them who you're literally
like hoping will be playing in the next World Cup.
They should be getting their chance, they should be getting
the chances in the Six Nations, especially coming into a
summer Lions tour.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah, yeah, so I it's it's it seems to be
let's go with the same old, same old, try and
win the same part, which is fair enough.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Okay, you need to keep the wood from the door
and you know, and all the rest of it. But like,
and by the I need to clarify to with the
sixteen million that that that Leinster have, that's as a
result of an awful lot of money being freed up
by the ir VIEW paying central contracts to I don't
know that twelve Leinster players or something or twelve or

(49:16):
thirteen Leinster players. It's that that would be a major
factor of why the part is a bit heavier there.
But but yeah, like yeah, I mean, we will be
harping on about this right up until the World Cup,
but these are the moment, these are the times that
we should be like taking them off. The is an
American fucking Romania or someplace they're going grand like you're

(49:39):
gonna teach them what with the sum I think the
Summer Tours after Romania, and I stand to be corrected,
But it's someplace like that where you're like our for
the love of Jesus, I'm just just no, I'm not
even gonna google it now because but it is. It's
some place of not you know what I mean, where
lads might only get the one cap and they won't
be seen again, like those sort of fucking places. Just

(50:00):
like but I don't see the point of There's plenty
of leaders now in the team that will be around,
like Kailan Dart is going to be there for the
next World Cup, do you know what I mean? Keen Healey,
Peter Manny Connor Murray, Ian Henderson, like Cormack, Like I said, Cormack,
who can there there's a case in point. They figure
he'll be there for the next World Cup. But he's

(50:22):
playing with a in a shite environment at the minute.
Do you know what I mean? Win or nothing? He'll
win nothing, He's not. He's going him and his packer
going fucking backwards most weekends. So like, yeah, no, I
it's it's it puzzles the mind. Keen Prendegas, gotta got
to look in there in fairness, so I wonder if

(50:43):
the brother given given nod. But he is a bit
of a monster playing he's in Connacht, isn't he?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, both of us are thinking there now, like is
Jack Conall going to be there?

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Hang on, you're speaking a minute ago as implying that
Peter Manny Peter Money isn't I No.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
He is, But I'm saying I'm kind of just saying, like,
like with all due respect, like like he's in the
fucking squad and his leg isn't even right yet for
Munster and you're like, okay, okay, fair enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but it looks like he just you're just about wanting
to get a job done. Who's going to be Peter

(51:22):
Mahanni next year or the year after or when we
go to Australia to play the World couple.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
That's my point. We're fucking terrible at it in Ireland.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It's it's the money. It's like we we like we
just won't. We've said this seems to be the perpetual
drumway bang because I'm sick to my bollocks, I'm going
out more in quarterfinals, Like it's scandalss now at this
stage with the dominant forces.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
The point in winning obviously, there's much more of a
chance of winning sixations because there's only sixteams, Like it's
much harder to win a work up obviously, Like what
is the point of having all that money if you
can't I create something else with it? Like you have to?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Well, I would assume we're being led by the finances
rather than the actual fucking the glory hunters, you know
what I mean. And that's why maybe they are so
successful to the degree that they are is because it's
purely being business driven. But like, come on, come on,
you can't tell me that Ian Henderson is going to

(52:23):
inspire anybody like these days. And I love the guy.
I met him one time. He was one of the
nicest fellas ever, cool as cucumber you'll ever see.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Like, but.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Jesus Christ, like yeah, Like it's I'm not saying you
have to be from a winning team or whatever, but
Jesus Christ, they're playing like a bag you sake at
the minute, like Leinster or Ulster, they're just falling apart.
That it seems when it comes to fucking a crunch
part in the game, like like Lester just took it up,
didn't even come into another year and they just fell
apart like fucking white paper in the second half. It

(52:52):
was for the love of Jesus, do you know. But
it is, it is what it is. And I am
still very excited for the for the watch color, but
it would have been it would have made for you know,
an interesting fucking talking point for not saying we're in
the media, but the likes of those and people, media

(53:12):
people and stuff like that go cool. We've got some
new players now. They do have a front rollout. What's
his name, Jack Boyle or whatever, Leinster fella, But like
you know, it's I thought Alliager would be in there
just for size alone, just to you know, just to see,
because he'd be he'd be ready to go to he'd
go to the next World Cup, alright, because I mean,

(53:34):
the man's twenty stone a six foot four, You're not
there aren't many them fellas walking around Ireland, do you know?
Fucking who could who? By the way, he's just back
from an injury and he locked out that scrum. Well
at the weekend, Like, that's a Saracen scrum that is
fairly tasty and he locked it nicely, so typical cap
to the mustachioed one that is Aliager. I don't know. Look,

(53:57):
we have a right good fucking weekend ahead us. Who
the iroshell played this weekend?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
They're going to why they're going to Italy? Be right?
That it was? It was? It was in French, it
was in It was in French. And I read it
and it said something Italian Italian trip or Italian opposition

(54:25):
or something, So I was like, who is this? So
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
We didn't and I didn't mention. But Connacht had another
win at the weekend. They're closing in a winning out
that Challenge Cup which will class to have some silverware
class and J J Hanrahan is back into selection from
injury this weekend. I think everybody kind of loves j J. Henderan.
You know you can't help, but yeah, Fair foxed him

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like he's old soldier on the road and he's still
sticking it out like but still a class act when
he's on form. So I think he's back back in
contention for the weekend again. I'm notucky because it doesn't
pop up my feet because of course it's only every
and I should I should look into it better because
we do have a rugby podcast. But I didn't ortn't
to say that fair fox class conduct and cheese. I'm

(55:16):
just raiding poor John haddntt, isn't it? That was very
disappointed when I read that today.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
There squad, Yeah, I know, sorry it is Bennett on thee.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
That'd be lovely, Yeah, shin form, I hope be nice?
Now be nice? And who do you play the weekend
freezing here?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
We're going on to buy on who are talking a
lot of uh, a lot of talk about going up
getting promoted to Division one, So yeah, it'll be a
good talk. So looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
They're talking a lot as smack. Does that ever happen
in women's rugby.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Talk?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I wish that happened more in rugby. Do you know
like that it's always the same old kind of rhetoric,
like well, you know, we know what they bring in
their serious outfit, like you know there's some killers out
the back there. You know, you know, you you never
know where you're you're going to have to be defending from.
And I know you don't want to fuel the fire.
But someday I'm not saying it has to be Mackenson,
but someday i'd like to see Mackenson. See that fucker.

(56:24):
Don't talk about this.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
No, I know, I know, because remember like all the
ship with Oh New Zealand fella. Yeah, everyone hated Lirish
people all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, true, true, okay, fair enough?

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Fair was that?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Who was.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
That's what I was thinking of? Oh yeah, it's started
with Peter Romany obviously. Yeah, you're right like that.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You can't get a cracking nine though.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Fair.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I know that has been a great rugby podcast. We've
aired our laundry and whatnot to and welcome to all
the new people. Hit subscribe if you've lasted this long,
Fair fox Ty, hit subscribe. Hit the bell on whatever
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(57:21):
a bell or tombs up or and I don't know
what hit it. So this lends into your phone every
time we drop an episode, and you can rate it.
So give us five stars. None of that other bullshit.
There's one more start than Leinster. Let's just say it,
but give us five stars. Like, listen, we can't. You

(57:43):
can't come into this house without getting a bit of
a slap around. That just shows the love. If we're
throwing an arm around, you going, you know what, You
guys are greater and we're so happier here, then it
wouldn't be a family, do you know what I mean?
You got to get a bit of a slap around
and we're more than happy to have you on board.
This is great, this is this is an Irish rugby podcast,
but everybody gets it. And like I said, you can

(58:04):
punch up, but you can't punch it down. So until
we get way better, you can't hit us, okay, just
saying or well can't. We'll tell the man

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Right, Mind the Rucks, Mind the Rock, Banana and Bears
Rugby Pod