Episode 12 - "Eau de Toilette"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the banana and.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Rubby.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
It was doing that purpose. Welcome everybody, Welcome, because for
for the in behind the scenes, behind the behind the music.
As I say, we we will be chatting beforehand, and
then we go all right, let's get recorded, and it
gets so serious the f and and jeff and stops
to a degree and the next thing, I do this

(00:30):
awkward long pause after hitting record, and then Anna Kunt
You're like, yee.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm almost like do you need to do this that
you know exactly when it starts because you're looking for
like when you when you edit it, are you looking
for like a line of silence?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
And then you go welcome everybody, Yes.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes, yes it yeah yeah, and then you break it
completely like every single week, the soundbard, the little the
light looks exactly the same as they. Well, so before
we go any further, I need to know why this
week you've chosen to be Sebastian Chabbelle and this week

(01:14):
back I'm going to be Sebastian.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, tonight you are Sebastian Chabbelle.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
This morning, right. I am very sorry about this. I
don't know if you saw or not, but as I
sometimes do, I went away behind your back and recorded
another podcast with another rugby pod.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
My god. Yeah, see, I don't mind you recording with
other podcasts, but when it's another rugby pod, it's like,
oh my god, no, I said, I saw your stories
this morning and you were writing in French, which is
very fancy.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh yes, Yeah. They're my friends who had a little
coffee stand and like one of the only places to
get like really good coffee in Rochelle, and they finally
got a little premise for themselves and it's literally just
like next to my house.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
So what's the name and what's the name of the
of the coffee shop? We give me my shout out?
Optimist you're optimist?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Nice? Now, I do you know what, when you find
a good coffee you'll travel for when you obviously don't
you're only living next door, but like you would, when
it's a good coffee, you go, you know what that
other stuffs on a dirty or ditchwater in comparison. What's
the coffee situation like in France anyway?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, I've definitely talked about this before or on the pod,
because I don't know if you remember, but when I
came here first, I wanted to work as a barista
because I wanted to improve my French as much as possible.
And I'd be going handing my you know, my CV
into places, coffee places.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
And they're like, what do you mean a barista training?
Like what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Like that doesn't exist, and like actually one woman who
did an interview with me was like this doesn't exist
in France, Like this is really interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
She's like I know.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
About this and and I've I've seen it, but like
nobody in Larchelle has a barista training, and like it
shows because when you go, they're they're getting they're getting
into bougie coffees in France, so you'll get like nice
latti art and stuff, but like it's too milky or
the milk is cold, not good, like really like the

(03:15):
the they're very into there, and I must say I
enjoy it as well. It's just their little espresso after
dinner or a little espresso in the morning, and I
actually starting to really enjoy it. And so because it's
only one fifty as well, and like it it gives
you a nice little hit of coffee.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Like they're not so into you know, the milki.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Er coffee is like we would be really into at home,
but these guys are really do and I buy my
my coffee beans from them and it's lovely, Like I
make it at home in my little French press.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
While we're at it. One And if you ever find
yourself in Clan Mel, I can only advise. Close by Clanmel,
there's a place called Fetch Coffee and they are very
very cool keV and I forget the girl's name, she's
she's brilliant anyway, but they have that it's a very
cool outdoor the it's one of those shipping containers you know,
turned into and they having art. It's very New York

(04:08):
Field to its like. And of course and it's very
much dog friendly, like they do doug a chinos or
puppuccinos and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, you know you're laughing in that business at home, sure,
but look, people love coffee. But also for like, there's
just so many different aspects of it, like the social
aspect and then the social media aspect and then just
people really getting into coffee.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
So so there's a there's a whole wave of coffee
anchor about to hit France, is what you're saying. You're
at the cost of it you could have and a
banana coffee.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah. And actually the woman who I spoke at the
time was like, you know, you could really offer this training,
you know, you could train other people in the way
you've been trained. And I was like, yeah, I just
don't have a coffee machine. So also where I worked,
you didn't have to like do the latter art correctly
because we just put because it was a it was
a dry there was the shipping containers out of his
daughter was in black Rod rugby Club. I worked there

(05:03):
during the pandemic, and you just had to put a
cap on. So when you sucked up the latti ar
out the gap, it's very easy to make that laddie
er look like a.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Tell me that much.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
So getting back to Sebastian Chabbell, you were on a
podcast this morning, which Sebastell was that is that you're
telling me?

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Not quite but this morning you so obviously on my
zoom which we use every week and the listeners will
know I choose a different.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Name every week and last week was Jack Crowley.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So this morning when I was going on said rugby podcast,
I clicked in as Jack Crowley.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
They took forever to end it, and.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was like fuck like and then I was like, oh,
sorry something, and then they were like hello, hello, hello,
and they couldn't hear me fre ages. So we actually
had to cut the zoom line and they rang me
back on my actual phone. But what did that have
to do with? Oh no, that was a precursor to

(06:05):
this story. So I've chosen some passage well today because right,
I'm sure you and many of our listeners have the
same problem in that fucking dry January like in many
ways hits you hard because my hands, my face, my feet,
my skin, everything is so dry, literally flying through the moisturizer.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
And the other day I was.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Like, you you you categorize dry jenuary has been you
get a bit, a bit chappy, a bit ashy. Most
people that categorize it as coming off to drink, and
I know.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
That, but I'm saying it can be dry.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
That's brilliant. That's brilliant that we know.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, try genuary fucking like by by by nature, by
name and nature. But I was looking for looking for
a gold facial moisturizer because but because I was running low.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
On my other one because I'd used it so much.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
So I found a little bargain basket in a nice
It was a really nice supermarket ry and I was
going through it and I just saw one that wasn't
too expensive and it had like thirty percent off and
it looked nice, nice little bottle or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
So I bought it, and then I was I used
it once twice. I was like, I don't like.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I don't like the smell of this, Like why does
it smell like Boots? It smells like Rubby Boots, like
like face maans like Rubby Boots. It was too late,
had already bought it and used it, so I was
like Fox Anyway, I was.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Sitting on the toilet yesterday, right.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
And Boots.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
You know when you know when you feel like you
see something but you're not sure if you actually saw it,
and you kind of start looking around.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's like did I just see that? I felt like
I was sitting on the toilet and I was like,
did I just read the name Sebastian Vell somewhere?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh? I just read Did I just see the name?
It's the basketballally somewhere in my bathroom. And I was
like looking around, saying.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I loved him, and.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I the new fish and moisturiser that I had bought.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I read it a bit more glo. It's made in
France by Sebastian Chavell. It's actually.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Made moisturizer, but after you've shaved your face. Oh so yeah,
I made a mistake and I bought men's moisturizer post

(08:57):
after shave moisturizer and my face.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
He smells like boots now and.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Not boots to pharmacy. It smells like actual smelly out boots.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think that's what he was going for, is the.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Thing meant after shaved bam, it normally just smells and nothing,
but you got Sebastian just about who if I'm not mistaken,
his nickname was a home le cavern the Caveman, like
for anybody right now who's brand new to rugby and like, wow,
this sounds exciting. Google Sebastian Chabbell right now, right now.

(09:30):
And that's it. And that is the the photographic depiction
of what Anna's face smells.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Like, exactly whatever you think he wist smell like, That's
how I smell.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
So you smell like old beard? Is what you smell like?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, that's exactly what it smells like old Beard.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
But I must tell you something else. Fucking I don't
know whether to laugh for probably this one. But you
remember I was given the seminar there of.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Weeks ago on rugby. I put up like a couple.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Of different pictures of rugby situations on the on the board,
and I asked them did they know about this and
what was going on here? And I put up a
picture of Oh my god, what's her name?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Is a girl playing for the USA? What's her name?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
She was? She's retired a couple of years now, but
there's an amazing picture of her and like the fucking
muscles are bursting out of her legs.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I think I know who you're about.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, you've probably seen it. Actually's quite a famous picture.
Her ponytail is swinging.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And I asked, like the people in classic douse, anyone
know who this is?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And someone's like, oh, oh yeah, yeah, what's the name?
What's the name? Oh?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Is it Sebastian Chabbelle. It's not a French kid, Like
it wasn't a French kid at all. And I was like,
excuse me, like guy with the long hair is it
Sebastian Shabbell?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And I was like, this is a woman.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
The other person in the picture who's tackling her as
a woman as well. And he was like, he was
just so blindsided about the fact that I was showing
a picture of women's rugby that he just thought of
like the only male role player he knew with Ponytail.
It was like the time he was I went walked
into a bar and I was like, what lot of
showing women's rugby? I was like, Oh, no, it's just
flafter clerk, crazy confused.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
I love that the kid just threw out any other
fucking name.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Just no, no, he knew.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
He was like, oh, there's one player with long hair
like fro the fucking whatever?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Won did the basteravell retire? Anyway?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's why I've chosen Sebastian Chavelle tonight, because he has
infiltrated himself into my house somehow. It was after Beard
after Beard.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Cream that my last my last residing memory of Sebastian
shabout was him. Was it at a World copp or
something or the Six Nations where he's dressed as a caveman.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
No, it was a Hong Kong Hong Kong seven.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yes, and he's singing five hundred miles by the Proclaimers,
and it doesn't make any sense at all. A man
who famed for not speaking in English and can't sing,
he is singing the song by a Scottish group at
the Hong Kong Seven's yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
And do you know I remember hearing back in the
day that he drives a smart car.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
No, yeah, or least he did.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
At the time he was sponsored by them, Like so
he was just like an actual caveman on wheels.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
She's how did christ Like it's a smart carb is
small for me? Like, what's he doing? Just he got
a trailer? Is he sitting in the boot of it?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Like? Or what? No?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Good?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
God runs along the road.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Fantastic. But that's been a great a great synapsis of
your last few days.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I didn't think we've been having so much Sebastin Chabbelle
content tonight.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But there you go to the listeners.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
By the way, I just I've gone some great feedback
on the podcast recently, by the way, so just it's
made me very happy.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
So thanks to those who've been in touch. I love
you very much.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Brilliant that is that's that's lovely. It just it verifies
that myself and are not just talking in darkened rooms
to each other across the continent. So that's nice, That
is very very nice, because otherwise that's all it is.
Do you know what I mean? If I didn't hit record, like,
we be screwed to be just like ah right, just
yeah they Oh good lord, were you playing at the weekend?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
We are in Perpigno. Yeah, and whole again in the bus.
A bit of a shit starts the game. It was
only like seven and a half time. Would like to
be fit. You can't just turn up and expect to
be I think the girls were like and the management
were a little bit like Fox, Ah, aren't we winning
this from the first second, but like Perbon, aren't going

(14:09):
to lay down in their backyard and just.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Let you walk all over them.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I thought they played a good first half and yeah,
we took a little bit bit of time to get together,
but we uh sorted out and we want what we
went thirty something or forty something nil?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
So we actually you got yeah, you got it together
all right there, and it like I like you made us,
in all fairness to you'd be a great bookseller. You
made that sound like a bit of a nail biter
there for a second.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh yeah, and then we turned But that's but that's it,
Like we we got our heads eating off us for winning,
for winning, for for just not winning fast enough. But
I broke my two try even that the last couple
of games, I was after getting two tries in each
of the games, I only got one on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Go on, describe to try to let us live through
your the POV of your We're sitting in your pick
in your pigtails now flapping behind your head like Tom Tom,
go on, tell her the talkers through the try.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well, it is interesting that you said pov because uh,
I ran a short line rant. There was one did
one massive girl. She was very physical and she fucking
boomed me. But like she was really upright, so literally
just like spun around to the side, kept going and

(15:31):
like fell over the line and like she hit me
so hard that I actually peel a little.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Okay clip that that is possibly one of the best
things I've ever heard in my life. That honestly, I'm
actually I'm so excited by the fact that you just
said that. That's I don't think that has ever been
said on a rugby podcast ever in the entire world. Ever.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, because you know what, I wasn't gonna say it,
but then I was like, I mean, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I'm so glad, and then I.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Came fucking like, boom, fly down on the.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's just hitting me.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Now, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
A little bit, yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's happened me once before on the pitch, thankfully, that
was a very long time ago. What happened down in
high field, like least you same thing, like you get
hit so hard that you pitched yourself a little bit.
I don't know how often that happens with men's players,
but I know what happens with women's players, like.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
It can happen.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
I've been.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I've been. I've been hit very very hard, like to
the point where I thought I was actually being after
being cut in half. I've never weed. Definitely felt the
need to almost squip myself. I got yeah, I got
hit by a simoon one time, and but it didn't happen.
Nothing followed through with thank god. But there was a
moment where like I'm gonna just lay here and just

(17:07):
you're gonna have to stretching me offlets because I am
going to squit the nappy here now because every gut
in my body was after was just still bouncing around
like elastic bands inside my stomach twenty seconds later, but
thankfully it held together. But never never awe, never abiss.
That's amazing. Do you know what I love?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Though?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
You went pure like I just imagine you, like minus
the beard, although you do smell like a beard now,
but like John Hotnett gets absolutely wonked and he still
keeps going. Do you know what I mean? You're like
what I'm on the road. Yeah, I love it. That's
class yet now, I mean when I was talking about

(17:49):
giving us a real insight into us scoring a try,
was like you were really you really do you stand
up for that point kind of going oh no, or
you like so good?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
It was only small bits like I was like I
to recover a little bit because I winded myself a
little bit, like when I actually fell on the ball
over the line.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Because it fucking whacked off the ground. Boss. That's good
coup and Joggdan and no, no, any different just knows
that happening at the time.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
But yeah, you know, I could have given the really
romantic side or the realistic side.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
And no, we want the realistic side. Yeah, we had yeah,
there was. There was. Two couples were actually at the
at the at the match at my version of a
match at the comedy club and care at the weekend,
and they were both fans of the podcast both sets
and they listened to both sets. Them listened to the
car I can't remember their names, but you came up
to me at the end of the show as I
was just kind of tidying up things and stuff. Thank

(18:51):
you very very much for reaching out and being lovely. Yeah,
and there they've bought tickets. I don't know where they're
coming to it. I think maybe the Cork Show, which
is the very first one on May Tent, and they're yeah,
they're coming to that and little insight. If you get
in early enough or hang around afterwards, you'll get you
can get a photograph at simon Zebo. He's simon Zebo's coming,

(19:14):
so that'll be interested. But he's smart enough he's gone
sitting in the back row early, getting in early and
sitting in the back row, which I warn people that
I like, that's the best place to sit because the
first fifteen to twenty minutes is going to be toasty,
if you know what I mean. It just happens. It
has to happen. But yes, very excited. Tickets around sale
now for the tour. There's more. There's about another five
more dates to be added, probably as this comes out.

(19:36):
But yeah, very very exciting times. I do something else
I want to ask you about June. Here's the thing
before we get into six nations. Have you noticed, right,
it's funny you said that you were dragging your arses
for the four staff and then all of a sudden
you had a rocket uppy? Does have you noticed that
kind of happened a bit in the last month or so,

(19:57):
like huge swings in not just you know, teams again,
huge like comebacks and stuff, or teams falling I don't know,
like teams in the lead falling off, or like typically
you know, matches were a bit tighter. It just seems
to be swinging white. I don't know, is it the
new rule changes or what's happening, but there seems to
be this huge eighteen nineteen point swings like in the

(20:18):
second half of matches and of late or is that
just me?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
By your silence, it would seem that's just me. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
There or presented the theory on it, well.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
The notion is that maybe that they maybe that it
would seem that they've they've changed the rules to a
point that teams can actually now play in two different styles,
if you know what I mean. They can really they
can really show up at halftime. And I'm wondering, like,
are the stat guys shit out or something that they

(20:54):
are spotting things at halftime or is it a case
that no see that thing we were doing with this
scrum half, we're not doing that the second half get
going this way and there seems to be drastic changes
in the last you know what I mean, Or like
a team is neck and neck and then just in
the second half, eighteen completely pulled away, Like Lester got
beaten by the were they were they were closed was

(21:17):
fucking something colossal like eighty points or something. They got
beaten that the weekend, but they were close at halftime.
Ulster have Ulster have been doing something similar. They've been
close in the next thing. Yeah, forty points putting them,
fifty points putting them Like I just it's I'm not
fully sure what's causing it. I would have it would

(21:37):
have been helpful at my highpothsis being shared by you well,
clearly it's not and it's just madness on my behalf.
So do you know, maybe just.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Feel I'll keep an eye out for it and we
can retouch on this.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
I probably should have. Yeah, I probably should have teed
this up with you rather than springing you live on
the podcast like going right, and I give me all
your thoughts and notes on something that's inside my head.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Sorry, by the way, No, I prefer that it's like
the life tasting, which you were going to do with
this hour.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Sweet Oh, yes, do you know what ull let's do
you know? Yes? I wasn't No, I won't be. I
wasn't anyone near clammel Nobody I knew was going to
clammel ms. But I remember I sent you a picture
of the thee They won't blow your socks off, but
they're very good.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
The well that'd be that's my sweet street.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, I was having this discussion with somebody today that
we're talking about chocolate is the way to go all
the time, Like no, no, no, there's a time and
a place for chocolate.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
You know, have a clinger in their head if they
if they'd always go for chocolate crisps or sweets, And
I I could not, like you'd have to sort of
gone to my head to make you decide, like I
could not pick because I completely agree time the place
for each category of treat in that.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
In that respect absolutely. I don't know if you remember,
but there was a chocolate bar. And I know I've
definitely put this too before, but or I hope I haven't.
There was a chocolate bar that somebody brought out apparently
it was kind of commissioned by Tato, and it was
a chocolate bar with bits of Tato in it. Do
you remember that?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, I wasn't a huge I liked it, I think,
but I wasn't like rowning.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Back well, as you named the trifecta of happiness, there
the jelly, the crisp, and the chocolate. I tested it.
I wasn't a fan, to be honest. I tested it
with coffee tea by itself wasn't a fan. But then
I comboted with squashy and things went to another dimension.

(23:48):
I have to say that's probably where they should have
taken it next they were That was the missing That
was the missing link. I fired a load of it
into me, Bob, and then threw a couple of squashes
in as well, standard squashes too, the usual guys. I
know there's rhubarbon custard ones now, but you know the
usual ones. Oh it's an absolute triumph, an absolute triumph.

(24:11):
But anyway, I say we should probably move on to
the rugby.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, I was just going to say that my favorite
chapter about is the Marvelous Creations, the one with the
jellies in it.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Now, no, I'm I'll hold off on the rugby off
for one second. Yeah, we actually do, yeah, because we
both actually it's ends even an hour later. You're you're
saying we should really get into the rugby, shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Be Well, the thing is we're not to talk about
because there's been a rugby yet.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, and we're not great when it comes to premonitions
and stuff like that. We're like, let's talk about it
when it's done. But in all fairness, it is our favorite.
Like you can talk about your Six Nations and your
Lions Tour, which we are are, your your World Cups
and your Lions Tour and stuff like that. We are
very excited by all these things. But the truth be
told is bread and butter and nuts and boats of
it all is the Six Nations. And before we get

(25:04):
into the six Nations, I want to ask you, had
you seen any of the new Netflix series? No good,
because don't fucking bother on it. I'm sorry for Ethan
and Jeff in there people, but I'm telling you right.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now, I'll I'll have to watch it though, because remember
we were excited about it last year, and we watched
it and we were like like, Okay, the audience must
be the people who don't know anything about rugby, and
good for them. I mean I remember speaking to a
few people and they said like, yeah, it was good,
but there wasn't the same you know, bite around it

(25:42):
as there has been for the Formula one, Tour de France,
all of those Netflix documentaries that have literally like swept
people up and brought in an unbelievable amount of new
following into those sports alone. So I couldn't see the
same effect. I didn't enjoy it. You didn't enjoy it,
but you are. He did watch a bit of this
year's one.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, yeah, and in the hope that we would stop
seeing lads going for coffees with their wives, in the
hope that will soft see oh my god, you're trying
to put Jeopardy in places. Are you nervous? You know,
I'm a bit nervous. Oh what if you get injured?

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I can only imagine first and foremost, they're going for
a very British audience. I'll tell you that right now.
Because Ireland doesn't show up until about episode four. That's
no joke. The champions don't show up until episode four,
and it hilariously. I guess they thought they were quids
in because they got the most guarded man in the

(26:45):
six nations. They got Peter Omanny and yeah, Peter, but
I is definitely selling some garden equipment after that. He
just he purposely was walking around like his garden and
all these tools are on display everything. He's definitely doing
a deal with the wat drills and just like from

(27:07):
the love of God. But that's all it was, was
more dandering around gone. So how do you think feel
about the game coming up? Like it was? Literally it's
the fucking Kardashians meat rugby light, which blows my mind
because formerly one yes is exciting and all the rest
of it, but it's it is just one thing happening,

(27:28):
you know what I mean, And they still make it
unbelievably interesting and unbelievably entertaining. But rugby it's one of
the most violent sports. You know, it's ferocious. There's so
much vigor and energy and everything surrounding it. Just watching
it and they complete. Whoever's directing it completely missed the
point completely. Whoever was directing and then editing completely missed

(27:53):
the point of international rugby. It was fucking terrible. It's
terrible again again. It was straight to going for like
it opens with Marcus Smith buying a g wagon. That's
what the first ten minutes of.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
God, I actually, do you know what I actually, I'm
gonna watch it.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I'm gonna watch it like as if it was an
episode of the Office.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah again, Yeah, watch it through that perspective.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, because that's fucking funny. And I couldn't agree more that, like,
it could be done so well if you know what,
if we come up with a natural idea of how
to do it, we could maybe sell it to someone
because you're right, whoever is on the job.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
I feel bad saying these.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Things because I feel like I could know the person
who's in charge of this or the people who are
in charge. Because so I don't want to say too
much because it's obviously a hard thing to do as well,
like you can't just get it right first goal, but
it is. It was that whole question around who who
is this actually for? It's not for the current fans,
it's for a new you know, an extra an extra

(29:07):
layer of.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Entrapment and who they can like bring into the game.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And it obviously hasn't worked because they've asked the third season.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I wonder for me, I wonder was access an issue too?
Definitely it has to be the thing, because I was
Netflix are class at making documentaries, you know what I mean,
They're class at making flying the wall stuff, and it
has to be access because they're dealing with fucking scraps,
like they're dealing with scraps when you're opening ten minutes,

(29:43):
is Marcus Smith buying a fucking g wagon?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Like?

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And then it's Marcus Smith goes to Rock Nation his
agency and some absolute oh like the most quintessential American
agent guy pulling neck and all inside the suit is
talking up Marcus Smith and you know full well this
prick would know rugby ball. It just kicked up his
pipe like he.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Is interesting elements though, like about about rugby even that
people will be interested in even like diet and like
sleep and recovery and like in terms of like sports
science and even just regular people who like if you
scroll on on Instagram, like the amount of content that

(30:31):
comes up on like recipes, what you eat for what
people eat in the day for like it could literally
be focused around that. And you know the kind of
touch on that small bit with Andrew Porter last year,
but it was that that's like your key, like look
at what people the trends are on Instagram and people
are obsessed with like food and training.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well I don't know why, yeah, exactly, Like there was
like a not for all intense purposes, like they they
were trying to show two sides of Peter, you know
what I mean. They were he was violent on the
pitch and then it cuts to him like clipping dead
heading fucking roses like like offer the love of Jesus,
like as if no, you know, but like I don't

(31:15):
know what what it was. I think it was a
it was a documentary that was made by RTE, I think,
and it was like it was it was on our Ireland,
but I remember being glued to it, not because it
was ardent, but because they had their their SNC guy
had brought like a horsebox size cryo chamber behind him,

(31:37):
behind his van and brought it to everywhere they were
so the lads could go into the cryo chamber. Like
he put gloves on him and he dropped it to
one hundred and farty degrees minus.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
But it was things like Jesus, this is I don't
want to watch it and watch a superstar superhuman doing
the things that I can go and do, i e.
Having a fucking coffee or packing a bag on the
bed while the woman asks you are you nervous? And
then you bought each other and then some dramatic music

(32:06):
kicks in and then it cuts the way to the
two you with two talking heads, which is so like
the only ways Essex fucking or made in Chelsea styling.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
You know the angle that they took, that's obviously the
angle that they took.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And it was that kind of a director and at.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
That and I would say access was a big problem.
I'd say getting in around it. It has to be yeah, yeah, yeah,
but it was yeah yeah, watch it, but watch it
through the guise if you're watching the Office, and you'll
roar laughing because all you'll see is one stunning HQ
slash training ground after another that England have access to it,

(32:49):
like it's just one palatial fucking country home after another.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Sounds like that Michael flatly.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
That he made of himself or he made himself the
main character.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Black like Blackbird, the Blackbird.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
And then everyone, like everyone in the cinema was just
roaring laughing at it, and like people started to view
it as a comedy because it was so ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
That's what it's reminded me of the way you're talking.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
So yeah, while they put a humorous spin on it,
it's more so to do with my disappointment than what
you know. I was just watching it going like.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I remember you giving about this last year as well,
with the man's name seven Negri, and like remember talking
to you on the podcast and you were like and
was there asking him like like, oh.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I thought you were dead off for things haven't changed, right.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
He's back again. Seven the missis are back again from
more coffee and more heart to hearts somewhere in some
piazza that they've cleared out for the fucking cameras, Like
they're sitting there nonchalant as if it's a normal Sunday, like,
yeah he is yeah, no, no, he's back again, He's
back again.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I thought his story was interesting, like about him getting
him and his family being a victory when they were younger.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
That was fucking interesting. Anyway, we should talk about sorry, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, no, you're right, we should. You're one hundred pcent right,
we should actually talk about the six nations with about
three minutes left now before but.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Five minutes actions, right Crowley your pred guest pro.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
And I know, yeah, Ireland, they're at home. They've got
way too much fards are Aji Dars. He's he is
the all thing and all dancing well well Toji has
tested as a captain, and he's notorious for being a
mean feinner, so it would be very interesting if he's

(35:03):
matured enough. But there's no way he he has what
Dars has, Like he doesn't. He's gone ten years being
a may feiner and which has worked for him.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
But Dars, you know he's being a may feiner.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Like he's he's notorious about, like he's obviously his own
detailed stuff, but like not not that he's not a
team player, but because he's playing in a team. But
it's kind of it's you know, been well documented that
he would rate himself before he raised the team, which
is probably the wrong way to put it. But he
wouldn't be what I would I would associate with captain material,

(35:45):
do you know what I mean. He's a fellow who
he's out from Marrion, he's out from.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Maryl until that person has made captain true.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
And that's what I'm saying, it's unproven. Up until now,
he would have been kind of known as a you know,
he's he's his old man, looks after himself and that's
it doesn't really you know, O'Mahony always looked like a captain,
do you know what I mean? Going in around the place,
like even when he wasn't captain, he was going in
bollocking things on behalf of other people, like he'd be
first in and whatnot. But no dars all day long.

(36:16):
Like I mean, he's such a good rapport, he's so
well spoken and everything never loses the rag. And he's
a superior player, do you know what I mean? Genetically
he's a monster like and what he can do, but.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
He does still make really like crazy decisions on the
pitch every now and then.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I do think he's I would imagine, and I see that,
and you're kind of go, what are you? Don't kill?
But I think he's yet to find the subtle paintbrush
for painting right up to the line, if you know
what I mean to use an artistic analogy, whereas somebody
would say, five six, seven years in the seat, like

(36:57):
Brandon Driscoll would know how to just about creep up
to the line of legality where he's kind of coming
in with a big, big old yard brush and just
fucking flogging over the line and going, sorry that the line?
Is that the line? Oh fuck it? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
But it's strange because it's not He's not the kind
of player.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I don't think he he doesn't need to.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Kind of like brush the lines.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
It's just like he'd have a game where he'd do
ninety nine things perfect and then one thing that's not
even just a little bit oh oops, It's like, what
the fuck are you doing? Like you do know the
rules at all? Like that just a crazy decision. I've
thought that a couple of times about Darris, and I
find it really interesting. I'm like, fuck, he's such a

(37:43):
buy the book, like really really good, you know, obviously
fabulous knowledge of the game and has so experienced in
his position and then just does something.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Where you're like, I can't even remember the examples.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
I just remember, yeah, yeah he did, like he knocking
the ball out of Lad's hand, like the you know,
attacking this from half when you're not allowed and stuff
like that, but like this, Yeah, I also think it's
it's almost a pressure to impress, like he's probably put
on himself to degree, that's the only reason I can
see why you'd have a complete brain fart like that

(38:17):
where you're like, brainfa this is me.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
I've got to do something class and you're like, no,
you've been doing class stuff, do you know? And what
do we know about captaining Ireland?

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
To degree, like he's he's new to captaining full stop.
So maybe that's where you know, another another season as
captain might see a different fellow like well.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I definitely am glad to kind of see him get
a run at it now you know.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
A good six Nations.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
But the whole it told jandars question that I kind
of asked there was more so around like coming into the.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Lions, there's a long.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Tournament in front of us, now, but what I was
thinking of, was like, it's almost a shame that this
game isn't coming a little bit later in the tournament,
where both captains and the tools, you like, they're both
kind of getting a feel for things and or they're
able to have a real crack off each other with
the Lions in mind.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
It's true you rarely see England of first, you know
that kind of you're right, but it's it's yeah, it'll
be interesting, but I suppose the Ireland players tend to
tend to come in fairly apart by all accounts, they're
all in fantastic nick like you know what I mean,
there's Barren tig Verlong who's gone home for a quick

(39:39):
quick bit of surgery. Yeah, I would, I would have.
But I mean you can only assume that they'll they'll
hit the ground running, you know that kind of way
that where they're not going to be completely rusty, Like
it won't be a I don't think it'd be a
nervous affair either, being at home for Ireland anyway. But yeah,
circling back to like, there's still all the predictions. Now

(40:00):
I'm going to this will go out tonight, which is Wednesday,
so you'll go out Thursday mornth So we don't know
the teams the the well, we know the England team
has been named alright, but the Ireland team hasn't been
named yet. But everybody is assuming that Prenda gas held
on to the will hang on to their jersey, which,
in one way, right, if that is the case, it

(40:21):
kind of it does echo what you were kind of
saying about should give a lot of goal, you know
what I mean, like, because he hasn't been playing, he
hasn't been shooting the lights out in the last couple
of weeks for Leinster. He came off was it against Fiji, No, Australia.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Was it.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
In the November series? And it wasn't going amazing. But
Jack Crowley came on and sorted the situation, you know himself,
and Craig Casey he closed it out properly like so
the argument will be the well he's hang on to
the jersey like, well, No, the last fellow in the
saddle was actually Jack Crowley. And personally, I think, you know,

(40:58):
maybe the the size of centers and stuff, you're going
to need a better defender than than Sam Brenda. Guess
I don't personally and that's not a monster bias. I
just think it's stronger fellow with a bit more, a
bit more miles than the clock. It's probably a safer bit.
But I wonder is it much different under Simon Easter
be that or is deady Andy, you know, zooming in,

(41:22):
going you fucking show robustards. I'm keeping an eye on training, okay.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
And without him there because he's actually not allowed to
be there. I wonder what it's like without him, how
they're managing. That's why again go back to kind of
the age old argument of like if it was if
it's Easter, Bee's kind of like, you know, his first
time in charge. There's huge pressure on him really because
the squad hasn't changed at all, So there's nowhere to

(41:51):
hide here.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
There's no like, there's no like, oh well it is
a young squad.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
If things go tits up for him, like there's you know,
he he has to win the six nations or else
this will be deemed as a failure.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
True, if you can't replicate what happened last year.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, yeah, the team is so experienced that there's no
room for like this, this this, you know, at least
if we had the kind of the younger players coming in,
like focusing on the next World Cup.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
And that's the thing. What is I refuse goal?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Like, is are we just going to keep biting at
six nations while other teams build their World.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Cup squads and then we just can't perform at the
World Cup?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I just.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
That obviously, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Obviously was That's not why we went out at the
last World Cup. It was fatigue in general. But how
do you build to the next World Cup. It's not
by using the same players hoping to get the same results.
Like how many of that squad is going to be
able to go back to the two thousand and seven
World Cup has twenty twenty seven World Cup?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Is a better player?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I mean, there's there's I mean, we don't have to
get into the World Cup, but there'll there'll be a
few lads definitely like, oh man, he isn't going to
make it. I'd be amazed type for longs body stay
stays intact, Bondiaki isn't gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Heally like and I know again this total thing about
like wheeling them out and like how how many caps
do they have?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Like most cap player? Fair play like and it's an
amazing achievement. But where are the young props? Why is
there no young prop that's better than Keen Eally?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, I don't have an answer for that other than that,
I suppose not none have been given, but I suppose
an interesting one. And just to give him a shout
out and welcome to Monster They is it? Milne? Is
your man's name? He's an awfully man? Anyway? What is
his name?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
God?

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Who is this? That?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Michael Milne? That's right, he's a prop from Leinster. He's
an awfully man and he's after signing with Munster. Yeah,
there's a there's another chap. I think he's after signing
from Leinster. The baron he's another he's another baron Lee
Barn He's after signing from Leinster. So it be it'll
be interesting because I mean they have they have a
production line of them. But I mean, I guess Monsters

(44:23):
the next thing. And with a view on Ireland and
World Cups, that's where you need to be sending that
like you know what I mean, spreading out the world
because they get in game time and the likes of
Keen and Eally and Tiger Burne are tag for Long.
I can't see him well, definitely not keen Heally going
to the next World Cup.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Noah.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
So I think if keen Heally wasn't, there would be
saying that about Tig Furlong. But now that there's someone
like so much older Tyg Furlong there, you're like, oh, well, okay,
we might as.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Well keep Tig Furlong. I'm trying, like and I, And
it's not the keen Heally is any kind of weak
link or anything. You know, He's still performing so well.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I just don't just can't understand how there's no one
that's coming up that's better than.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Him when when you see like what's happening with other.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Just in France, they suppose it's so obvious, like Larachelle
at the weekend they're now in their pro team. They
literally had half the team or from the espert from
the Esports which is the academy, and they fucking they
fucking like went to town. Like they didn't win, they
lost down too long, but like the whole club was
so excited for them, and young lads like in eighteen

(45:36):
nineteen years ago, like Hugo Russ, like some of those
lads are starting every week for Lawershell, not every week,
but starting a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
They're still only eighteen nineteen, like they're.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
They wouldn't even have a smell beard of roim yet not.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
At all, Like they're fucking not a not a bother
them going out into a pro environment, like just fucking
knocking over big moments, like Ireland's just so.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Starved of that.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Like you know, young players like into the pro environment
that are fucking do you know not a bother in
out job dawn next, it's such a fucking young player.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Oh jesus, I.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Know, I know.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Cam here another selection conundrum. I wonder is it a
conundrum or how do how do you feel about it?
The last year's Player of the Year mackensal I.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Was about to say this already, handsOn or Nash.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
The reasons behind both, I would give because it's going
to be difficult. Nash is in savage form at the minute,
savage form. He's shown a pace that it's kind of
on parallel at the minute, like a direct straight line pace. Unreal.
Do you know he's doing nothing wrong? He's savage in
the air. He's savage in the air, and he's he's

(46:59):
scoring rice. He looks heading like he looks like an
international player playing from Unster now at the minute, mack
Hanson is mack Hanson for one, But also I wonder
has mack Hanson got a bit of a sore hoole
on him and probably has a point to prove after coming,
you know, coming out with those statements a couple of
weeks ago, Like, is he like he's a better back

(47:20):
better back up him out here? Like, you know, because
if I'm that, if I'm a wet sock after coming
out with that, then yeah, that's exactly all I am.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Like, So I wonder, you know, well that's a hard
one to call, likeause you can't go off, you know,
into problem, especially with mack Canson involved. You can't go
off into pro performances alone. Like that's what gets you
your into prop performances. I want to say, sorry, InterPro
I mean provincial performance gets you selected for camp and

(47:49):
tearing chunks out of each other in camp.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Is what gets you selected for Ireland. So we that
bit we haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
So whether mack Hanson is in that form of mind
or not, we can't hell, because it's always the way,
isn't it. And that's why That's why I get I'm
guilty of as you say, like, oh, we don't like predictions,
but so much you can be talking about something that.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Is completely off the change. Do you know what it's like?
Have you been watching The Traders? Did you watch The Traders?

Speaker 3 (48:19):
I mean to watch it. I keep it's said to
me a few times to watch it. You told me
team to watch it. Oh yeah, one of the days
and it's it's no, haven't gotten around it.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
One of the things that I've taken from watching it
is and it's actually been a good life lesson for me,
because I'd be guilty that we all get you this
from time to time.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Making up a story in your head that's completely unpro
like oh my god, he his eye just twitched.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
That means that la la la la, and this big
time like you know, stories that are built on absolutely
nothink how things grow legs.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It is so interesting to see how people can convince
themselves with some thing that.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Is completely untrue. That's what I feel like we're doing now.
While the Irish team is away preparing for the Six Nations,
literally the whole country is like ah, like you know,
fucking trying to speculate and they're just there, you know,
doing their job to prepare, and we're here making up.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
All the stories in our heads. That's what I feel like.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I feel like we're in an episode of The Traders
and all of the players are just watching us, all
being like, oh, you fools, like you have no idea?
Do you know that?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
That is funny because it's there's a kind of rule
if you're ever nervous doing a play or whatever. I
remember I was. I was doing one man play, and
I was nervous every single night because it's to play
by yourself. But I remember a friend of mine's mother
in law, who was a lovely woman, Missus mcgree, who
was from an acting background. She just texted me and went,

(49:52):
you're gonna kill it tonight, and just remember nobody else
knows the script, so you can't actually fuck it up.
Jesus Christ, You're right, nobody knows what I'm about to say,
because I've been in the background practicing at this, so
even if I do make a cup, it's only me
that knows it. So in the same sense, like they
must be in a place we're going just home of

(50:14):
beer watch this because we've been class behind that behind
closed doors, and I do I I what you say,
and I hate falling into the slipping into the the
experts and media you know, and they're lovely, they write
great articles and all the rest of it, but like
you haven't a bulls notion what's going on behind the scenes,

(50:37):
Like like you mechanism might be tearing up trees for
all we know, and look an absolutely class in the
streets ahead of Calvin Nash right now. Who knows, But
it's a it's it's so interesting to see people's reaction.
But then that's why we love sports because we get
to react to it and get excited about it and
all the rest of it. Like we can't all sit

(50:57):
back rubbing our chins, going wait, just wait, because we
don't want to wait if we want to guess. Like
that's what makes that's why conspiracy theories and conspiracy theory
podcasts and conspiracy theories websites are so popular right now
because people love to be one step ahead of the game,
being nerds about it too, like anarex ruin everything, but

(51:20):
they're like I heard he couldn't get his usual white laces,
and well, we know what that means. He's going to
ship the bed like what how? Who?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
What do you know?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
So why we don't come up We don't want to
try to I suppose to pre envisage what's going to
happen or whatnot. But it's the I suppose the best
thing we can do is talk about what will what
is interesting coming up at the weekend and where Ireland
with what I'm I'm right excited to see is and

(51:58):
I wouldn't normally get excited about it, but scrums. I'm
excited to see how at an internet because we've seen
kind of the scrum changes and stuff like that with
the scrumb half and stuff. What and you know number
eight's running off the back again. Like I'm excited to
see at international level where everybody's really class, to see

(52:19):
what's going to happen with that? Do you know what
I mean? Those rules do Even though it's weird that
these rules come in mid season, they will they'll apply
to the six nations, won't.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
They Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're okay as a whole. So
they've all been doing their homework on as well. Obviously
fun like it's.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Interesting coming up, but maybe there's you know, when new
rules come in, like it gets like analysts and coaches
put their heads together, and this is how things happen.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
You know, you're like what if, what if? Like would
this work?

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Now?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
You're just kind of come up with some ideas.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
So it is it is, uh, well, it's definitely exciting
and she's not a not to take away from like
predictions and speculation, like it is great fun. But when
it gets too much, when it gets like hysterical, and
I do feel like the whole ten debate is starting
to know on me a little bit. Now.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I'm just just want to know so that we can
just go with it.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Because I'm just tired of like kind of like that
that reaction to that Leinster felt As said to me
in the pub being like, you know, proudly making an
error and him turning around being like, now you see
why Sam Prendergast should be number one. Like we all
want the same thing here, do you know from many
of the four provinces, we're all fighting the same battle

(53:37):
actually at the end of the day. And if it
reminds me of reminds me of remember when Johnny Sexton
was kind of in the process of dethroning Ronan O'Gara,
and there was thatations where you know it was it
was the same debate. It was the same debate that

(53:59):
was going on O'Gara sex and different, different dynamic because
it was a young player placing an older player.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
This is two younger players fighting for a place, which
is interesting.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
But fucking Roand Nogara was, you know, starting, and then
it was Johnny sexon and my dad was raging. That's
raging that Johnny Sexton was starting. Whatever day it was,
I can't remember what year even, but uh, fucking Roan
Nogara came in a couple of minutes in set up something.

(54:32):
Tommy wares Tommy bow scored a try after a few
minutes after Roger coming up. All like Munster fans were
incensed that Johnny Sexton was starting before him, and my
dad like jumped up and he goes Tommy fucking Sexton

(54:58):
got the names mixed up in his excitement, but was
literally trying to ridicule Johnny Sex And so this water
reminds me of the whole being incensed like and taking
one side of the other.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
But actually we're all want the same thing here.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
We just how we nurture it is.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
The best way to do it.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
And I think from the outside looking in, we need
to stop fucking throwing our hands in the air, every
opportunity being an undermining you know, the other player, Like
we just got to get behind each other. Like imagine
if we had two informed tens that were given you know,
equal space, equal time, equal place to manage and measure themselves.

(55:44):
I don't know if it's possible, but imagine if it was,
And imagine we had two of the best you know
tens in the world, both playing for Ireland, you know.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Yeah, And I mean it's you know, on the fifty
minute mark, like you could find whether it's Bondy Bundy
or whatever dropping dropping off and Jack Crowley coming in
as center because we know we can play center. Like
he's kind of he's kind of getting there in their
own faral kind of model, like he's a strong bastard
like so, but I think it's always like you know,

(56:18):
before the camp, before the storm, where people are just
running around, frantic kind of going. I think two games in,
whoever is start, I think things level out then we're
all then becomes a bit of a realization like oh,
we're back in six nations again, and it's actually Ireland
as a collective. We're really wanting to win, do you know,
I mean you feel for somebody who's from you know,
an Ulster fan or whatever, who has doesn't have a

(56:40):
dog in the fight, like you know, you know what
I mean, who what are they going to say?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
But I must score to sleep?

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Yes, yes, I want to give just something that I
should I should have taken pictures of it. I watched
the Monster match and I watched most of the Leinster
watch them at the weekend. But it was so funny,
like Monster were away to the Dragons and again had
him hawkey by halftime and just kind of took the
foot off the gas in the second half, like it happens.

(57:11):
Gavin Combs was like a man fucking possessed, I mean possessed,
like a fellow who was pissed off. He didn't get
a call up to even a training training camp. He
was absolutely everywhere. But it would cut away to the
Monster fans and they looked like us, if you know
what I mean. You know they looked like when I

(57:33):
say oz, I mean munster looking people. Do you know
what I mean? Rosy cheeks not a million miles from
a farm, do you know that kind of way, possibly
has a sandwich with him, you know, and jolly kind
of you know, grassroots kind of looking people. And then
I watched it and it would cut away all the
time to like the Leinster fans, and it was like,

(57:54):
do you know what them aulphoos who just looked like barristers.
There were so many times we caught away to some
guy going bloody good show your God, Jesus Christ. There
really is a divide. Actually there actually is a divide.
Like there's no way if he has a sandwich in
his pocket, it's got fograt or something in that, like
you know what I mean. It's it was so different

(58:18):
the two set to people.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
It was That's what I've been saying about the two
Leinster weekends I've had here now on LaRochelle. Like and
I've been telling people, like monster people are different, most
of people are different, and they don't understand that. Will
I tell you something, they'll fucking learn it to do
first weekend of April because apparently half a Cork is coming.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
No, I can't get any more tickets. Sorry. If anyone
is speaking of getting in touch.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Well yeah I would. I would use message me the
other day and I was just I was driving, and
I know I'm gigging that weekend. Unfortunately I'm locked in working.
I would love, I would give anything to be over
there and the crawgy. Jesus Christ, we could do the
the Banana There Larachelle tour while I pretend to know
anything about Larachelle whatsoever, only from listening to you. But oh,

(59:10):
Jesus Christ, that you would enjoy that. I think it
would be well worked. I'd get one, you know, I'd
actually I could get us. As you know, we walk
around actually with a mini speaker and we have our
little head mics on and we're walking around going. So
if you want to just look over here to their left,
this is where Anna did episode three of season two,

(59:31):
while sitting there eating an ice cream And if you
want to look over here, yeah, we actually do like
a spot by spot tour. This is where Anna got
locked out of the house that time.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
This is where Anna jumped into the old Port drunk
after winning the championship and no Hyper.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Extended her back.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
And show them the scars that come on she still
has pains. Yeah right, I never ask you for predictions,
but you asked me early doors. Well we don't care
about the other teams. No offense lets, but well what
I won't ask you for a score, but who's going
to win the weekend? Ireland or England Ireland? Okay, that's

(01:00:13):
all I need here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I hope, I hope you didn't get into the curry sandwich.
It's interesting to see the curry sandwich just six.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
And seven, Oh Jesus Christ, because I'd mentioned sandwiches a
couple of minutes ago, Like, tell me about this curry sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
You did mention sandwiches and like, so, uh, the the
curry twins are are flanking, and then Ben Earl is
in the middle, which is very interesting because the Earl
of Sandwich is the person who invented the sandwiches. So
I've just been calling it the curry sandwich because Ben
Earl in the middle of the two curries.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
The Earl of Sandwich, the Earl of Wow, that's that's brilliant.
That's absolutely it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
We'll go back into next week. We'll see how the
curry sandwich.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
In another and another life and another dimension. That's what
today's episode would be called. But I've already thought of
today's episode in my head and it's not got it
to do with sandwiches or curry p o V.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
You know, there's many, there's many, there's many.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
You give us a lot of clips. You give us
a lot of clips. Right going away to bit and yeah,
I'll chat to you over the weekend. Mind the Rocks,
Mind the Rocks

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
The Banana and Robbie Pod