Episode 13 - "5ive or 6ix Nations"

Join our dastardly duo as they traverse the weekends action from the first round of The Six Nations Championship.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Banana and Rubbie Pod.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome everybody to Banana Bear Rugby Podcast. As we discussed
boys haircuts, you can't see it, and to be fair,
it's it was a trick of the eye that Anna
pulled off there. She tied her hair back but put
the most perfect center party that essentially she could have

(00:27):
been an altar boy in the nineteen ninety four That
was actually it would have it.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I have it. You know, we were saying there, we
were trying to work out what he looked like, and
it's like like Brian McFadden or something like Backstreet Boys,
or you started singing boys on but I have it.
It was it's your man from five, Yes, one of
the lads from five with the floppy hair. But the

(00:54):
center party.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
You know what, that's annoying. I'm going to google this.
This is the Rugging podcast, by the way, everybody, just
in case you wonder, what in the name of ship
you have five? Five the band five band members.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
They were excellent, but they spelled with a five.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hey, well look it knew what we're talking about. Oh
Jesus Christ, he's right there, he is right there. That's unreal. Okay, okay, Okay,
come on now, it's just telling me that there's five members. Yes,
I know there's five members in the band, so you
will have to know who's who. Sean Connellan Richie Neville.
Is it Richie Richie Neville? Yeah, Scott Robinson, Jason Brown.

(01:40):
I think it's it's it's rich Richie Neville.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are these all these all sound like former pro professional
road players.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, they're not. This is definitely five of the group.
I'm looking at them.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Here, Robertson.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Brown does actually fave make it? Get up? There's so
twenty minute records.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I loved five. I still get such a like a
good feeling when I hear, you know, the opening, the
opening bars to walk up to day with this feeling.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Banger. That's an absolute banger. I'd forgotten completely about that. Yeah, bye,
Jesus Christ. Well, you're all very welcome along as we
take a trip down memory lane. As a result of
and as boys aircut that she hasn't received it for
some reason anyway, Hey, how are you keeping you all right?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Grin, I'm starting to get a little bit snaughty and chivalry,
which is like, after the rest of the world has
had as I feel, but I'm all right, more good.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I thought, I told you to keep running from that
thing and to never actually rest. I thought, I told
you the rule of tom is don't let that in
the door, and by the only way to do that
is to keep on killing yourself in of activity you
take up. Why would you come to.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Have I have?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I haven't been. Do you know what I think it was?
I hitched a ride on the back of the electric
scooter Saturday night into Larachelle and there was a chill.
There was a chill in the air, so I think
that that's what got me in the end.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's the most Anna Cables sounded fucking moment of all
the time. I just hitched the right in the back
of an electric scooter on the way into Larachelle was
a brigading.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well. I have a video that actually for the listeners,
but I was. I was. There was a fundraiser at
the club and the under twelves are going to Ireland,
so everyone watched out for the under twelves from our shell.
They'll be coming into Cork in a couple of weeks.
And they had a quiz. They had a fish and

(03:58):
chip snight and they know again and did music and everything,
and there was a quiz and I was the quickest master.
Well I tell you now, go on. I was like,
not a bother, Yeah, of course I'll make it. I'll
make a great crack, you know, I'll make jokes and
sure these kind of things like I love doing them.
I know what I'm doing them. You think they fucking

(04:23):
appreciate a bit of crack or a bit not at all.
They were literally like, excuse you be a lipidy, you.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Crazy like abuse and repeat the question, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Repeat repeat the question. We can't hear you can't just
said go slower plays and like staring at me like
who's your one? Like and I was trying to tell
jokes and it was like and like I was trying
to lighten the mood. I sang dirty old town. You
think I get an applause or something. They were all like,

(05:06):
oh my god, it's just every day for the confirms
me that the French are no crack or.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Zero zero crack. But to be fair, like the French, yeah,
there are a bunch of accountants, the bastards. But what
you need to do, like you need to be the
biggest ballocks in that moment that you find you like
you will find you're having a good time. And what

(05:34):
happens after about seven or eight minutes is that they like,
I did this down in Corkan a couple of a
couple of weeks ago. It wasn't for Corcan. It was
in their their their grounds. It was from some big
engineering firm and they didn't want me there, but they were.
They certainly didn't want to be paying me what they
were paying me, but I didn't care. I just and
they kept on could you and it was all different nationalities.

(05:54):
Can you are we allowed to use chet GBT? I
will throw your phone off the wall if I see
us it is he kind of throw ye, just the
rude as bastard And after a while they tend to
get on board because they're like, oh, there's no way
out of this otherwise. But it's yeah, you'd a right
to ring me for that one. I have a couple

(06:15):
of pointers and not creating a quiz at all, but
just being an ignorant bastard when they're being ignorant bastards
back and it tends to work. But yeah, no, classic French,
classic French, of course you could give do and for
them and you were helping out the under twelves. What
a shower of bastards.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Literally literally like I I have better things to be doing.
And I was there. Now I still had a great
time that like the people who are running out with
people in the club are so lovely, and I met
some lovely people and got to to spend time with
some lovely people. Bought like in general the quiz you think? Oh,
I literally was like, well, I didn't write I didn't

(06:57):
write the quas either, So I'm was reading someone else's
questions and I was literally reading the beIN like what no,
likechnology who owns the pub? So when I catch him, you'll,
i'll you'll hear a word or two from me.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Go on, give us a sample something that French people.
I'm guessing he's wrote things the French people would never know.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
No, this it was hard. It was like when did
the first six nations take place? What year?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Okay? It's tricky one obvious because it changed from the
five nations to the six nations? Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
What year was it? Oh?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't know. Was it like two thousand and five?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Oh no, two thousands?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
What was it that Geese?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah? Yeah? And then the next question was who was
the first team to beat Scotland in their own home ground.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Oh my god, it has to be something ludicrous like Argentina.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Or no no in the Six Nations?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
The Six Nations, h Jesus christ Man did, Yeah, you couldn't.
You didn't have to make it so anarechi christ And
then the next.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Rou was who won the first ever game of the
Six Nations?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Like, okay, so I know what he did. He went
to top ten interesting acts about the Six Nations. That's
what he did. I've been down there. I've been this
soldier before and I have clucked pure Scots and the
All Star sounded very fucking same me after a while ago.
I have to have to throw these around the mob.

(08:43):
But anyway that I suppose that gives us a nice
segue other than that you were eating off weekend, died you.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
We had.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Great, great, Well, my week is mostly consistent of answering
questions to theaters and venues and things like that. But
we have a template now, we have a template for
everything I can send to people. So there, I think
as we speak, there's like five or six venues are
and the biggest I'm very excited, the biggest venue I
will have ever done on my tour show is the

(09:14):
Theater Royal in Waterford, and that's the nineteenth. So if
you know any water for people, send them my way.
Be nice to nineteen the nineteenth of July. A bigger pardon,
nineteenth of July.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Oh, July the nineteenth the daily I say, agenders thanks
to it, Marton becomes stickers.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh god, yeah, there was a big moment. Yeah, there
was a big moment. Yeah. When, oh when when Jiff
became safe? Yeah, I remember it well, I remember it well.
It was it was, it was a daily showcause all. Yeah,
nineteenth of July will be Theater Royal in waters excellent,
probably one of the nicest theaters in the country. So

(10:01):
that's that's been. That's been me or there was no gigs,
it's oh god, there's the lurg you know, there's the
Lurgie coffin. Other than that, though, we were we were
back and forth about the match at the weekend. How
excited before before we get going? How excited were you for?
Because I wasn't on Friday, but then come Saturday then
I couldn't think of anything else.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I must agree that I've been kind of the same
not as excited, like literally, the Six Nations often is
the only thing that gets me through January. But I
hadn't been so excited and I have to agree. On
the day the match, then I was literally like I
was really looking forward to but I couldn't wait. So, yeah,

(10:45):
I watched it in McNulty's What were we text What
were we texting about? What were we saying?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
What random out of Like if anybody read this kind
of stuff out of context, you go, what kind of
fucking mediaccoies too it? So it was, oh, we may
get straight in from that. We may have to do
this chronologically.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Chronologically.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, so first up anyway, And I'd said that, look,
I was first. We were talking about whales the night before,
but she looked like I said about that. The better
we all know that that story I had messaged you.
I was saying, keep an eye out, I hope because
of the weight gone from behind Philly Beelum, I wonder
we'll gaine get the better of him. He didn't, as

(11:30):
it happened, But will tell you the seriousness of our
Rugby Norse text out of nowhere of cowl Capital's snott
in the Toji's nose.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I forgot. I forgot that when he was singing the
anthem oh no, I don't know where to look. I
had such bad second embarrassments, SnO in his nose.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Big bogie. I mean it was it was nearly Shakespearean
for what was going for the poor pastard? Fuck? But
then we went don.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
But I was I was almost wondering, wasn't his nose ring?
I was sure, and he wouldn't be playing with his nose.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Ringing like Lenny Kraviatz. What's he gonna have a nose
ring in the game for now? I messages that Sam
look shook during the anems, which I thought he did.
He looked fairly gaunt, looking he'd done into himself a bit.
And you came straight back from your man singing the
anems of something else.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Jesus, Yeah, your man, who's You're like? It's just such
a funny comparison to who's the cage? What's his name?
Shamey or something? Yeah, your man who said the little
cage is? I bet he was sitting home being like,
this fucker has a clue. But it was pure operatic

(12:55):
like but it sounded like you got the crowd going. Now.
I don't know the portly Aviva always say that the
match is shoe, but the atmosphere always sounds good through
the telly. They obviously make it sound that way. I
don't know, but it sounded like the singer got him going.
But there was one part where the singer, like in
Ireland's Call, sang it kind of a harmony instead of

(13:18):
the main ah, the main melody, which is when I
text you. It was kind of like he did a
higher bet or something, and I was like, Jesus, who's there? Man?
Obviously very good and then it's such as to an
ad And then when it cuts back you sing in
the fields of ath and right like the match is
about to start.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
They they got their money, They got their money's worth
out of here man. Because I was, I said, Jesus,
because he Paul Byron as a man's name. He turns
up the whole time. I think he's I think he's
married to like Phil Colter's daughter or something. He's he's
always an il d am and there's always a bit
of a crib about him. But he's kind of you know,
he seems like a nice fellow but and a successful singer,

(13:59):
but he's his content when he speaking his stuff that
owl ones would be interested in. So I never really
pay much attention to the fellow like, but they got him,
and they got diff money's worked out of him because
he sang the head off it. He probably won't be
called back because he What happens is I think sometimes
you have to realize it's all well and good youse
singing it right, but you're not singing it so that

(14:22):
an audience can sit quietly and watch you in the
opera and appreciate and clap like little golf claps afterwards.
You're singing it so everybody can sing along with you,
don't People can go on all Pavarotti on me, boss tone,
we can we know you can sing. We know you
can sing. You don't have to cope your amram and bow,
you know, and bow at the end and expect a
load of roses to be thrown on the pitch. It's

(14:44):
not about you. It's about everybody else having to sing
a song and when it comes to because there's nothing
funnier than all the Irish rugby players who having a
note in their heads singing Ireland's Call, and he'd be
outdone by an opera singer behind him was like a lead.
Could you let the lads join in a bit because
they're all like, yeah, even the crowd are going well,

(15:08):
they're going along with their best. But they got like
I said, they got the money for because when we
came back from the eyes, like you said, I was
looking going he's not fucking still singing? Is it? Because
I was at that stage. You know, he's in his
At that stage, they're in their seat, do you know
what I mean? And they might throw on zombie or
something like or whatever. But it all banged a bit
dyfoy for me? Do you know that kind of way?

(15:31):
Was it all banged a bit? Did we need an
opera singer to.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You know?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
And then they're singing the fields of Earth? Okay? All right?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I know it sounded it sounded so bizarre with the
posh kind of take on it.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I mean, did we have to go few pure like
you know, oysters and pink trousers over and you know Hugans.
Did we have to do that? Like I'm not saying
he needed to get like one of the dubliners out there,
but at the same time, like you could have you
could have just gotten there, you know, why not get
five out there to sing it like.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Or do you know even better? Six? Remember six?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
What an ingenious name of a band? What was their song?
What was their song?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
There is a whole load of loving when in my
heart it's a feeling, feeling through and through.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
There was a lad there was a lead in that that.
Actually he was a decent rugby player and he was
kind of that he was this this He wasn't a
big fellow with the brown here who is kind of
he's like a young he's like a a producer now
and like a kind of minor of boy bands and
stuff like that. But it was the blondie fello apparently
he was a handy ulster school boy. Was was that

(16:58):
the one that Nadine Coyle was in trying to get into? No?
And she was too young?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Sorry when if we're talking about this about who could
say what happened with Mark McCabe he was did he
play beforehand? I didn't hear anything about if that was
good or bad or indifferent?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
What Mark mckabe was playing in the Aviva?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:24):
For the match? Was he? Why didn't why didn't they
play mainly A two thousand instead of.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Because I'll tell you what my view like. It was
only on Virgin Media. I thought it'd be on Premier Sports.
It wasn't. I thought. I tried to find BBC, but
we only have the online set up here. We don't
do the Skybox and stuff with Netflix and the sky
Atlantic or Amazon and stuff. But Jesus Christ, Virgin Media.
I get it. Okay, you want, but Joe Well, I

(17:58):
Rob Kerner, and you've Shane Shaggy, and you've fucking couch
Couch Couch Andy Hell I fucking what's his name, Matt.
It's the most like they. If ever there was a

(18:19):
personification for why the Netflix thing didn't work, it was
meeting lads like this at a boardroom going come on,
let us into the dressing room and stuff, and these
four lads were going, I don't know, it sounds a bit.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Risky, but sorry, it's it's literally like and the feedback
on this and like you're saying the analogy for the
Netflix thing, but another perfect analogy is Jamie Heaslip sending
the tweets saying should I start a podcast? And it
was like ninety eight percent No. Surely that is a
gauge on how people feel about this A yeah, that

(18:57):
that this level of coverage, this type of I agree
with you.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Because then you like, in all fairness, Dorty then like
the Fiona the Ziebes, they've a couple more will you
be on it? Like and you know what I mean,
you're you know, people with different opinions like you four
people with the exact same opinion there like there are
four people saying the same thing, all singing off, let's
be honest a very blue book, but we won't. There's
no going into that when it's Ireland. But the same time,

(19:22):
you're like Jesus Christ. And then just coupled with that,
they decided to take up thirty percent of the screen
with sign language a sign language chap, which is okay
if you really really want to listen to you want
to be able to sign read the sign language while

(19:45):
it's being commentated on. I'm like, what, like it was
Ian McKinley and some Nordy lad I don't know who
it was. It wasn't the greatest commentary in the world
by all you know, I know on the world one
you can listen to what's his name, Ryle Nugent, who's great,
But this was just half like, I could not stop
my eye from being drawn to this chap doing language.

(20:09):
And then every like his hands would able to tire
out because I was thinking of he see, you're gonna
do the full eighty fairfox, but every like ten minutes
some woman would swap out with him and do another
ten minute shift. But there has to be an option
for me to turn this off. I can't. Why do
I keep on looking at him and I'm supposed to
be fight?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Is this over the match?

Speaker 5 (20:32):
This is over the whole, like so there's a band, No,
you're on the wrong channel. No, this is this was
virgin media, virgin media, and they made a big hoo
ha about it, going.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
This is where the first to ever do it. And
I'm like, I hear you, but could you make it
have an option to turn off? Please? Because your man
is absolutely I don't know sign language, so it's absolutely
have no benefit to me. I can't even look and go,
you're doing a good job there, son. It was like
doing my.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
That's amazing. I didn't know this at all. I must
have been watching it must have been on RT inside
the pub, but oh my god, you.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Were probably watching on the World the World one with
Ryan Lugens.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, sorry, So there wasn't an RTY coverage.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
No, it was Virgin Virgin Media.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
But I didn't see anyone doing a sign language.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, but like I said, you were probably watching the
from McNulty's.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I was watching Irish pundits in a studio.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Who are you watching? Matt Williams? And then yeah, oh shit,
I was watching.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I was watching Jamie. He's not surely on my screen
and why are you dreaming?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
You're dreaming? Hell Jamie studio. It was Matt Williams. And
again hell, I and Shane watch McCollough. I keep on
forgetting his name for some reason. Shane Oregon, Rob Coroner
and Joe Malay.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I didn't tell you now because because because mc naughty's
has all the channels, and it has Irish channels. I
was watching Irish Talk about rugby and there was nobody
doing sign language, and I was listening to.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well you're well, if you're listening to Royal Newton, then
you're catching a different TV to me, because I had
some Nordy Lad and Ian McGinley in the comms. This
is anyway, let's follow the let's follow the true line

(22:43):
of what we were saying, and I said, yeah, that's
Paul Byron and I went, fuck me, that's there's a
lot of kicks. Why do we keep kicking to Stewart?
And you came back and you said most featured on
Clatter of the week. I don't know, pretty short, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
who does he opened?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I don't know that, but there were so many examples
of him from the Premiership absolutely killing people. We want
leather of the week. A number of times he did
say it like we can't, we can't choose Freddy Stewart again.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
So I couldn't more work out now. I mean it
was this is I'm going to go through it and
sometimes often I look back and go at Chez. I
was in hindsight, was I wroun? There was you know,
you reckon we're rattless folks. That says we don't seem
to have any you know, nerve settler of a boss
going around the field just smashing people or whatever. So
it's overly aggressive, as iss and sam as this has

(23:36):
not stepped up to international standard yet. I stand by that.
But look the great match delight for crowded as well.
And so the essentially that was our chat back and
forth and I do still stand by it. I don't.
I people are so excited, and it's great that people
are excited, but we had four or five flashes. Other

(24:02):
than that, we weren't incredible. Certainly for about fifty minutes.
We looked shaky. We looked like a team whose first
first day out it was, and we were getting, as
you said, rattled by the unbelievable aggression that England were
thrown at us. But I don't think England were that
long good. I really don't. When I watched the back

(24:25):
of was like Jesus Christ, the loads of stupid things
here like we had I was it five or six
cracks at it down in the in the five meter
and came away but nothing, do you know what I mean?
Like that's supposed to be kind of Ireland's bread and butter.
You get inside five meters, you got a tap penalty.
We're going over not got nothing, came away with nothing,

(24:46):
just about got to try in the last minute of
Marcus Smith's sin Bin. Like I maybe now it's often
the first case of this is the first round of
six Nations. Everybody's a bit kind of what are we
doing again? Are we playing?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Rebby?

Speaker 2 (25:01):
But the watchback, I wasn't overly excited until and your
namesake that you've come on as today. I mean, I
don't want this debate even coming up again for another
year anyway, until that lad is ready, because right now
they have to give the jersey to Jack Crowley. That's

(25:23):
my opinion. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the game,
but that's where my opinion, as my grandmother used to say,
would end up. What were your views? Are you as
courting as me, or you're like, come on the lads.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I am, I am as. It was really like kind
of great to put it to bed. Actually, I feel
like there's no debate left because and how I felt
about it was, you know, everyone's excited about Sam BRender Gas,
and I feel like everyone feels like he's at Johnny Sexton,

(26:00):
especially because of his little small shape. So everyone's getting
excited and everyone, like we debated before, everyone's thrown their
arms in the air, Like if you're from Leinster, you're
thrown your arms in the air when Jack Curley makes
a mistake and vice versa. Munster thrown earth. But like,
why why can't we just let Sam frender Gas cook

(26:21):
for a little while because he is clearly as you say,
not ready and there you don't. We don't have to
be forcing it, like we have a ten there in
Jack Crowley who's literally experienced and ready, Like yeah, he
makes mistakes, He's allowed to make mistakes, so Sam BRender Gas.
But why would you have one pipping the other when

(26:43):
the thing is that either of these, depending on how
the next couple of years a go, either of them
could be like here, that will be the ten at
the World Cup, depending how the next couple of years go,
We don't have to say that today or tomorrow. But Crowley, like,
I'm just I after my what was they saying on

(27:06):
off the Ball last week about?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Like I just want.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, sure I told you that at the time. But
one of the points I mean it was like you
have to like reassure both players that they're both you know,
in contention and like I don't know how it was
managed with Jack Crowley, but someone in the comments was
like I prefer to basically slagging me for saying, why
would you reassure a player like their pros? But of

(27:35):
course you need to reassure them like of course do
sorry now the days of like tough love, bullying people
into performances, gone like you have to be able to
get the best out of all players, and like Sam
Prendergas needs to be looked after now like he can't
let that affect him, Like he has to like turn
from it, but come back stronger and realize, you know,

(27:58):
where he went wrong, that it's not defining. He's so young,
it's not going to define his career. He'll be like
looking back in this in you know, however many monster years,
thinking like Jesus have come on so much since then,
and thanks to the coaching staff around me, have become
better and not worse. So of course you have to
consider how like how they how how the players need

(28:21):
to be looked after. So whoever was was having to
go up in the comments saying like, oh why why
would you need to reassure the players? Of course you
have to reassure them, like I'm pretty sure the message
to Jack Prowley was like not like, well your shit,
you're you're on the bench, of.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Course, you know. And then it was on to couple
what you're saying there, where is is Sam going to learn?
I'll tell you where he'll learn. He'll learn in the
exact same Dovetail scenario that every other out half has learned.
Jack got to spend two years to slash three years
under Johnny fucking Sexton. Sam Sam didn't get that, he said,

(29:00):
Johnny Sexton was gone, Samuel Rain, what I'm driving? I
don't even have my license. Look, you're tall enough. You
look kind of like the last fella get in there.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
And whereas crowdy got to dove Hill beautifully like starts here,
starts there, coming on off the bench here, learning under
Johnny Sexton. Then after two years of that, Johnny's like,
you know, I'm going on next year. I know, yeah,
I know. I have I've got my full license, I've
got my insurance. In fact, i've I'm on my second
no claims bonus. Things are looking good and I really

(29:31):
think I can drive this. Then the new lad comes
on and is like, my leads, give it the fucking keys, puts,
you know, mounts the curb a few times, knocks the
winger off, gone half off, sick, and is the yanked
off after fifty minutes, which I was for sure always
going to be the plan. And Jack is like, relax, relax,
mamm won't find out I'll get the mirror done and

(29:52):
I'll get the paint touched up, saying that just go
in there, have a cup of tea, and I'll show
you how to do this over the next year or two.
That's how oh I saw it playing out. It wasn't
a nasty kind of thing. It was like two double
high five after two lads, and he went out obviously
with a point to prove, but also I hope he
kind of feels a bit big brother in that moment,
like going, I got this, relax home my beer because

(30:15):
I did. I don't know if you saw it, but
and it'd be interesting to know if it got across
the water. But Roger was quite cutting the week previous
on again after the ball again gone, I'm not sure
I'm in the team. I have to tell him no,
like you know, he's just not good enough. He's number two.
I'm sure he has to just suck that now. And
that's that. And I wonder if because I would gone, here,

(30:37):
you old bastard, I'll show you. I'll show you, wonder
And I'd love if that was a spike that came
up and him going, who's this old bustard telling me
that I'm done, huh, I'd love it. Or maybe he
was like, you know, maybe he's right to watch this,
and he just looked class. He just looked class all

(31:00):
together like that, like there was now. I know people
are tiring and stuff and everything else, but it looked
like the whole thing started to move, you know, like
a well oiled machine once he came on. But yeah,
I think that this is by no means the end
or slapping slap in the arse or and it's art.
For I would imagine there's enough intelligence to go. Do

(31:21):
you know what, Jack Crowley is the man to bring
on this other lad with him because.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know you need I that absolutely, and it certainly
settles it for now. Yeah, I think like Berniga's probably,
I feel like what should happen is Paranagas will get
like Italy starts.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I do you know what, maybe an Italy start. He'll
definitely get a Whale start, because Whales and New Italy.
By the way, I find myself saying Italy all the time,
Italy all they've got some class players now like sorry.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I I they do, and and just to kind of
retouch on something without into it so much. For I
always said this for how on art to literally keep
doing so well in the under twenties and just cannot
fucking produce a thing at senior.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I know they'll pull a win out of the bag
every now and then, but still, how can they do
so well on the under twenties and be.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
So I think the tide is I think that tide
is turning too.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
She's been turning for a fucking while.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
No, I mean, yes it has been. But when did
Benetton even beat Saracens before? Do you know what I mean?
I think the club system is common to fruition now
like people forget, like like Ireland has had a series
en of clubs set up for a long time, so
is England. So as friends Italy haven't. There were a

(32:44):
joke club wise up until about six years ago. They
were where you where careers went to die? Do you
know what I mean? Or if you you know, that's
just where you went. It was like you make a
few pounds, you know, it's been a sun bit of wine,
but that's all. But now it seems to be there's
actually there'll be a direct you know, conduit from the

(33:04):
club system to to because any decent Italians were from
abroad or they were going into the Premiership or somewhere
else to play their rugby, or into France to play
their rugby. But now there's actually a place at home.
So might no, it might take another two years to happen,
but they're in the damn site, better place than whales

(33:25):
are anyway. Jesus, Jesus friends, but Jesus to get nilled,
like to get nilled.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I know, do you know? I don't know. You see
I shared it on my story, but I uh, it's
a friend called Rodri. He's well, she makes content for
like world rugby and stuff. He's absolutely class. He makes
on real content. But he before the tournament, she said, right,
I'm going to do a challenge for every points difference.

(33:56):
I'm going to run a mile.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I saw that. Oh my god, so.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
He so to run for three miles on miles flight
not even class wile because he's Welsh. I played touch
rugby with him years ago. We were on the same
touch of team literally about ten years ago. And uh

(34:20):
we've been following each other since. And his content is class.
And when you put that up last week and then
I saw that it was actually making me kind of
cheer on Wales a little bit more, you notice, be
a little more invested. But the poor fucker, like I hope,
for Roger's sake more than anyone else that there's just

(34:41):
some some like that that's just it now that it's
all the only ways.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Of Oh god, yeah, it's the only way is of.
So we'll we'll go back to the ADRL Max so
we do Hey, do you agree with the the man
of the match? There was a controversy about this that
should have been given to James Low. What do you reckon?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Right? I was actually a little bit surprised with the
UGP selection because I don't think he he didn't stand initially,
he didn't stand out to me as well massively stand
out is as as much as James Low. But I
was thinking, I was like, maybe there was stuff that

(35:19):
I didn't notice because I was watching in the pub.
Maybe there maybe there was a lot of things. He's
still class, but I thought I wasn't struck by, how
you know, by his game, and yeah, maybe James Low
would have been been more obvious. So maybe it was
that that try, the the kind of the moment of

(35:40):
to give some parks try, Maybe that was more impactful.
I don't know what you reckon what was what was
the controversy.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Just that Lowhead made such contributions on the side on
or with his two tries. Now, I think there were
two very poor tackles by Alex Mitchell in all fairness,
like I mean, I know he's a big unit in
comparison to Mitchell with jaz get get a leg, get something,
get on something, get the best down. Do not let
him just throw you on the ground like a child.

(36:08):
I think it was based too, and like he gave
there was a momentary delay to load that time with
the was it the Lord or Jack Conan? Nos, I
can't remember. It was like a double It was a minor.
It was only a little flick at the wrist. It
was like a double pump and there was enough. It was.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
It was unbelievable. Yeah, exactly what you're just saying to
Jack Conan.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, it was to Jack Conan. I remember going, oh.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Wow, oh Glass that you know what I mean In
that you'd have to know that a fellow's going to
buy that, and you'd have to know that your man
is actually a top class international that would buy.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
That, because ironically, people lower down the pecan order wouldn't
have bought the first little the first little pump and
the ball because they probably wouldn't see it because it
was just such a little quick flick. They just have
stayed in position. But he got your mantus or just
class the way he kind of step in and away
with con I kind of when I saw that, I

(37:06):
was like, he says, you know what that is? That
and him with with with calendars, up ending Maratoji like that.
For me, I was like, all right, do you know what,
I'm happy enough with that. Actually, I'm happy enough with
that contribution that when they just caught a tojy and
just dragged him back five meters and throw him on

(37:27):
the ground like a secu spuns like especially after a
Toji's right out, he put on some drama, which I
suppose you do at the lineman tyburn as your leg held.
But then he goes over and he stumps on, and
there was talk about that he should be he should
be cited for stomping on like sport. Did you see
that like that? And you're the England captain like that

(37:49):
out shite? You wouldn't hardly see it under fifteen's like
do you know what I mean, it was what are
you doing in front of everybody stamping on the Wingers foot? Oh,
i'll I'll ruin his day and you're looking to go
on a Lions tour, Like, what are you doing freaking
around with that? Not a great sign, No, not a
great sign at all. So I was I was delighted

(38:10):
to see when they actually caught him in fucking back
up the field about five million yards, well about five yards.
But at the same time, yeah, I went. I was
happy enough on that. I was like, do you know what,
there's some bite in this film? And you you said
in your text message, were like, since he's shaved the head,
he's down to a shiny dome. There's nearly a love
has come for him. Like he was pushing out slid

(38:33):
around his head there for a couple of years into
his only messing with the stuff is all he was
doing to his head.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
It was given pure Peters vibes. I was loving it.
It felt like.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I felt like the old is the old is good
to have a ball.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Where you can't tell the difference between the ball and
his head.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, exactly. Well, and then of course you know Connor
Muricle on with a gorgeous head of hearing him, so
he's he's no good to us at all. Still looked
class by the way he came on, looked absolutely to
the man of born as he is. Like. But if
you know these they it's nearly I know there's a
lot of debate about this, you know what's on the

(39:17):
bench and everyone but Jesus Christ, like when the bench
comes on and does that do you know? Jack cron
and Jack Conan even in Henderson looked hefty going around
the place like smashing people, smashing rocks. But like the
the Ireland bench they came on, what has class like
it turned it up as savage like it went up
two clicks, like Jesus Christ, you're not just replacing, you're

(39:39):
taking this up right. They must have him writing primed
with info you know, going on, surely don't they. I
suppose they probably know enough what they're looking at, like
they do.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
David prepped from during the week as well, like you
know your role when you're going in and it's like
the mentality of the bomb squad, Yeah know, like that
the bomb Squad became such an honor you know for
those players, Like if you can get that mentality right
of like fucking finishing a game, like you're the one
who gets to be on the pitch for the final whistle,

(40:10):
Like how great is that? You know? Like so it's yeah,
they were brilliant the bench.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
That's a great that's that's a great way to describe it.
I haven't heard it actually described with that with that before.
That's a great way describing is that. Yeah, you have
the honor of being on the pitch when you when
you're in that yeah, yeah that is actually great with
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I I and because there there is that kind of
mentality shift around us like that, uh, finishers replacements is
what is what what they're called? But clip, I forget
what I was going to say there now.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
It was I guess it was another amazing analogy. Like
what I was thinking of was dessert is it was
the nicest part of the dinner. But it's.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, I I uh.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Put in in saying that, like I'm not I don't
want to gloss over. We have to seriously improve. We
have to seriously improve if we have obviously we've we've
got them the next not to take away scot and
we need to improve there too, like because their wingers
look incredible, but it's if with any hope thought top

(41:30):
Portlow and they both looked a bit like it looked
a bit loose in defense. I don't know what it
was like it was. I don't know they it seemed
to be that there was a half a millionsecond of
delay or something was going on that just didn't It
didn't light it up for me. And I know people
are saying things like, oh, well, you know, it's did

(41:50):
they have to be what do you find do? Like
you need to be getting your arson gear because it's
there's a couple of teams coming down the track that
could absolutely kick us up and down the yard if
we don't get get ourselves in all and England for
all their you know, using seven three sevens in the
back row, throwing them into rucks like nobody's business. Like
the two Curries in all fairness, they die in their

(42:11):
shields in every match. Like those lads are not going
to have any bones by their forties, but like, yeah,
there was they had. They're really naive and like to
let I know what they were talking about. People talk
about how incredible it was that with James Low feigned
to go right, but then hidden behind was a Ryan
Bard or Tiger Burney hidden behind, but like international teams

(42:36):
see that a mile away, like surely do they do?
You know what I mean? Like surely an international team
would like three players peeled right or peel to their
left in anticipation of Low going back over that side,
But he didn't. He just feigned to go that way
and then stayed in behind Tiger burn and I gap

(42:56):
that you drive a fucking Scania through opened up up
in front of him, Like do you know at the
international level that can't be happening? Like surely, Like what
the name of Jesus is going on with England? Like
are they are they in serious trouble? Do you think?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I don't know? Like, oh, there were certainly signs of it.
I wonder I was a glass over with kind of
how they finished by beating Earland last year, but the
whole like Felix Jones leaving, like Felix Jones didn't leave
for nothing, Like there was obviously some some like kind
of something wrong. So whether that's been kind of fixed

(43:38):
or not or I don't know. So it's really hard
to know. Kiden Marley, who had his first calf when
they dragged him out of the of the try zone
and into such the poor fellow.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Like you in his head, like he's first going no,
not that, and then hello, darkness, my own friend, and
it's like it's like and I love that. It's Hugo
Keenan walking back like Stone coming Steve Austin, like he
just he's stopping back like you're the lightless looking fellow

(44:16):
nearly on the pitch, like and I love how you
joined in there and just threw your man morally poor
fair play though IM sorry, I was just saying.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
It reminds me of like when you when there's a
big queue for the women's and you decide to run
into the men's toilets quickly and like you have your
pants half down and the bouncer comes in and pulls
you out like while as you're about to sit on
the toilet. Reminded me of Jesus.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
There was a hint of a wedgy look about it,
all right, like they were like, get out yet out
your bastard. Yeah, there was a hint.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
As in not even just you know, let you finish
and then throw you out. As we're throwing you out
with your pants.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Down, and if anybody wants to check it out online.
I think I don't know what the Six Nations put
it up, but it's part of England Instagram. He fair
played him. He he had to sing a song at
the after dinner thing in the EVA, and he did.
He stood up and sang the Taylor Swift. I think

(45:25):
he sang Taylor Swift team and he made a decent
depth from fair played him. The youth story and what
what not not the song I would have expected to
lead to sing.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
But anyway, sorry, I I I could have called it
that it would be one of three songs that he
was going to sing from him because young London like
like Rugby, the Rugby lads like they love like Backstreet Boys,
Taylor Swift like they sing all those like yeah sailor.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
There's a Yeah, there's there's of English friends and they
sign off females with a case male fellas.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Like that kind of vibe.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah what here, man, come on, come on, I love it.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
They're very comfortable with their no.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I don't think they are. That's the thing. I don't
think they are. I think they're forcing the issue to
be trendy. But where's you know what I mean? Oh
you know? Or I would be comfortable with. It was
like this time and a place for that time and
a place we don't need that an email when we're
talking about gigs, I thought Ryan Beard has been anonymous.

(46:35):
Yeah you know, I mean he's obviously there's a line
out a line out option because he's he's there, you know,
a wiry, good player, like.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
The true test A lot of the line out now
will be if you want to Compin said this actually
in the pre match analysis that like England obviously by
putting the three sevens in the back row, are not
as much of a threat lineout defensively. So she she
was like, I expect Ireland signers to go well today.

(47:07):
So the true tests of Ireland because it did go
really flipping well, Like they have the highest stats of
successful lineouts so far after one match. So let's see
like how it goes next week.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, yeah, you've you've you've rich and stuff like that. Yeah.
And also but from the lineout's kind of be stop
sloppy now like a bit they're they're not the contestable
thing that they used to be. Since they change the well,
you can throw it wherever the fuck you want if
they don't contest, which I hate the idea that it
makes a complete mockery. It's like the scrumbs in rugby

(47:40):
league where they just lean against each other and they
just like, what are we doing this?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
You know, why wouldn't you jump? Why wouldn't you just
jump in defense?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Then yeah, but they don't seem to be They don't
seem to be like people's lineouts seem to be all
sticking these days. Unless the thrower the hooker made the
bollocks in the throw that doesn't seem to be there
just doesn't seem to be the jeopardy in it. I
don't I don't know. Maybe I'm completely talking outside my
wheelhouse here, because I've no idea what I would be
talking about. If somebody did throw me up in a

(48:10):
line out, I'd probably die of art attack. But yeah,
you're right that they they weren't tested in it, and
I thought there was. There was a few things I
think went Arland's way al right, like that, like although
he was on their radar, like Maratti leaning in and
brushing off Jack Conan. I don't think that was much
of a penalty. But I suppose it was called from

(48:32):
above and it didn't look look too great.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Or whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
But also there was a man cunning him south when
he milled into Hugo Keenan got the timing wrong. And
just before that there had been a few Runnings leads
running in for a scrap at a bitish muzzle and
the reference that the next fellow to run in is
getting a yellow card. And when Cunning hups out up

(48:55):
ended Hugo Keenan, James Low comes running in like a dog.
They just found his own tail, and there's nothing nothing
said about it. He just kind of played on with like,
all right, Grant, you were talking about flat pass is
not checked? Which flat pass are you thinking about?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
There were numerous. I first thought of it Friday night
now watching France, Like you can't tell me so obviously
there's this thing that unless the crowd is very unhappy,
or unless I don't, I would even dispute the players actually,
because like the rest, there were just so many marginally

(49:38):
flat passes, like there was two two for France and
then two for Ireland that I was like Jesus in
days gone by, they way to check them. Not that
I'm like disputing, I kind of like the rhythm of it.
I think it's a good way to go like, yeah,
just play on unless it was clear and obvious. But like,
if for example, it was Whales or Italy, given those

(50:02):
passes one hundred they have.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Been checked one hundred percent. And I think the passes
you're talking one one in particular was was Dan Jean's
one was it?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
And James loss yeah yeah, and James Lowe's one yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, and two and two Antoine DuPont passes which were like, uh,
you know, it just not that they showed or shouldn't be.
But if it was another team and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah exactly, did have been checked for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I couldn't agree mover to you. I was looking at
both because low had nearly made a bit of a
bollox of himself fucking jinking back in and out, and
then thankfully tige Berne was there. And but it looked
slightly like Burne had overrun it a bit.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
He did because James load took too long with the ball.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
He did because he reached back first slightly. Now, maybe
the pass itself was correct, but Burne was a little
bit forward and thought it that way. I don't know,
but I would have thought were going, we're having a
look at this for sure, and then Dan she and
gorgeous looking like savage pass but like I wondered, like

(51:09):
they it definitely looked like it and drifted forward. But
I wonder I was there a moment where even the
refsent on, fuck me, that was a hooker. Live it on,
Live it on, anybody looking no, live it on? That
was a hooker that just did that. Jesus.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Also, it's the home you know, the host cameraman that
chooses what to put up on the screen. Now, there
were replays on the screen, but doesn't matter if it's
a home crowd or not. But for its let's say
it was England, if that pass had been repaid on
the screen, the whole Irish scrabble would have gone like boom,
and they like they would have rechecked it or would
have encouraged the players to ask to check it or something.

(51:48):
So there's definitely that home crowd advantage, and certainly a
team that's like perceived as very strong, we'll get away
with things more than others. Like for sure, if it
was Wayne's they would have checked it.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't agree more. But other than that,
we're delighted, delighted with the wayne I was because I
do love defense. I was absolutely spitting feathers at the end,
letting in that soft try, like like, yeah, Jesus Christ.
All night I listened to him an interview. Sorry, I'll
get out of your way on one second, but I

(52:26):
listened to an interview, an interview. I've got a big
fat arsenal at the counter, and I'm just blathering away
like about it. But anyway, with Sean Edwards, who I've
been a big fan of, even from when he played
rugby league, he still has tries that his teams have
let in fifteen years ago, Tries that were soft at

(52:49):
the end of games that still give him sleepless nights.
It killed him, just just tries been left in when
there was no need to leve him in hills him.
And I was totally in.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I was in.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I was just absolutely in. Think of what this man
was saying. It was going. I get that that would
murder me my soul, letting soft tries in like that
at the end. Whatever will points difference, make a difference
of who knows, But more than anything, it's about stamping
your authority on the situation and being ruthless. Do you
know the lads were already celebrating five minutes out, Like, I.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Know, yeah, so annoying, but points difference is one thing.
But was that not losing bonus point? Mm hmm, Like
I don't know, I don't know, but yeah, I agree
that was annoying. But sure it's kind of you know
what's kind of it's a small bit like England last
year when we won the six Nations but we last
final game, last play the game, you're winning the match,

(53:49):
but then they scores like whoa, Like it just would
have been so much more enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Dad to the looking forward to we don't do big
predictions and all the rest of it is there and
that we need to to sort out before before we
go to Scotland, because Scotland didn't look hectic in spots either,
like Finn Russell throwing that interception for the love for god,

(54:16):
Finn Russell, what are you doing? What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Man? Always yeah, go on expect I'm always expecting Scotland
to just like and I said this before the World couple,
they're gonna be a some stage and then of course
they're gonna come out and fucking take the rug from
under us at some stage and I don't think it's

(54:39):
going to be terribly predictable, like when they do.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, yeah, in all fairness, yeah I did, and there
can be nobody raging if if and when they do,
like you can't like unless we make an absolute bollocks
and that's how they went it. But I think though
missing to Blotto is massive, like he was absolutely hummon
up until he busted his shoulder, like he was hummon

(55:05):
like there was he was one of those unplayable. He
was Bundi a Ki at his best, at his on
his best day, all the time him being missing. I
don't think they have the answer to filling that gap
just yet. Will it be one and last there? I don't,
I don't know, I don't know. But would you make

(55:26):
any changes? This is the one I wanted to ask you,
would you make any changes going into the games? Bobs
as they say, we know the one I hope, and
you're saying, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Probably he has to be in there. The other one
that that that's kind and I think we we've covered
that side. The other one is the dance Sheehan Keller
her debate. It's actually I actually feel sorry for Keller
her because he had some great moments earlier in the match,
did really did really well, lineouts went well, and then
fucking she comes in and just literally like after you know,

(56:02):
runs run, Keller must have come off being like she's
happy with that now, and then he sees this fucker
running around and he's like, oh Jesus, so I wonder
will will she get in there head of her? I
think he probably should.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, because he did farewell, like he fared very well
in that he didn't he didn't have to ease himself
into the game. He was motherering when he came on,
and like he said, like poor poor Keller is like
the solid He's like the solid teenage teenage movie boyfriend,
do you know what I mean? He's class, but he's
a good guy. He wears like he's you know, he's

(56:41):
got the letterman sweater. Possibly plays quarterback or whatever. He's
just a good hell of a good guy. Goes to church,
goes to church or dad the girlfriend's dead, loves him,
calls him things like champ and stuff like that, and
then it's all going great and then all you hear

(57:03):
is the sound of a motorbike pull it. It's like
the college and Dan Sheen is sitting there with the
coolest glasses ever on the end of his nose. He's
got a packet of effects up inside the pocket to
sleeve his T shirt. It just kind of gives you
on the nod And I hope she gets on the
bike and doesn't even say good look, and they're way

(57:24):
up the earth and I say, poor all kill her.
But I did everything right. I was by the book,
and this SOB shows up and just pulls the rug
from under me. I don't know. Mackenson was a bit.
I didn't see an awful lot from him either, Like
I mean, yeah, okay, when he got it, he did
look sparkly or whatever, But I don't know. I mean.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
He was injured.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah, that's what I like.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
I do you go with that?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Even that he would wrap, He'd obviously had stitches on
his knee. I'm guessing because he needs to go off
for a blood replacement. But I don't think you go
over you. I think as a physically stronger player and
a better defender, I think Calvin Nash because they have
two bastards on their wings in duhan Van and what's

(58:14):
the other Chap's name is? Class? God, my brain is
rubbished this even that people are coursing at their phones
right now, but you agree, you think. I think Nash
has done wonders for himself in the last couple of
Monster matches especially. I think he definitely warn't a start.
I think.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, could be. That's three changes saying is that is? That?
Is that a lot? I feel like they won't change hand.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
They won't, they won't. But here's the thing I'm going
to throw. I'm gonna throw on at you, gonna throw
on at you before we wrap it up. I mentioned that,
I mentioned that what's his name Wasn't was a little
bit and Baird was a little bit anonymous, no aggression

(59:00):
from him and put A still a solid player. Does
Peter romany feature? Is he needed to feature against Scotland?
Do we need Deddi Peter? Yeah, I don't know, you know,

(59:21):
I couldn't. I'm looking I'm going in that first half
against England, I was thinking, we do we actually do?
We've nobody gone around like like there's they're an incredibly
well drilled team. They're unbelievably good team. But is there
anybody on it that when like and Kalen dars is

(59:41):
a class act does the odd goofy thing, like you said,
quite enough the last day by his own standards. But
when he walks onto the pitch, do all the players
around him kind of look and go oh, Jesus Christ
and subconsciously and actually physically come up ten percent? I
don't think they do, not yet. I don't think he
carries that presence just yet. And it's literally been said

(01:00:05):
about omany. When he's on the page, your body just
goes an extra ten percent up because he's that kind
of an aura around him. And I don't know are
we going to need that against Scotland when we beef
all right to do as we did. But you know,
there was a moment there was that first fifty minutes
or the first forty anyway, I was going, Jesus Christ,

(01:00:29):
there's no bite to us at all, thought, But then
again they rode the storm England's hands around their knees
on the thirty fifth, thirty six minutes. I was like,
that's when I messaged, You'm going, I think we might
weather this actually, and our lads are walking around just
running their fingers through their hair, going with a classic right.
Of course, Jameson gives the park he was just his head.

(01:00:49):
His fingers were just making it squeaky sound like I
kind of whiteboard when you rub your fingers back along it.
But I'm only throwing it out there. I'm just saying
that possibly we might, we wouldn't do to one. One
final note from me, and like I said, your way.

(01:01:10):
Did you see the adorableness by any chance of the
clip from the dressing room pre match?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, did you see the most adorable thing ever Peter Money, Yeah,
taping up Robbie Henshaw's boots for him. It was just
there's just seemed to be I don't know why. It
was just a teammate helping the mate out, but there's
something seemed to be something like Deady Pete, even though
there's not a huge difference in the age, but there
just seems to be a kind of a Deady Pete moment,

(01:01:40):
where come here and I'll do that for you. Sick
leave that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Yeah, but he'd be given out yet the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Do you know what now, if you don't tie them,
you've trip over yourself. Don't come running to me when
you bust them out off the grounds. The tire lasers
are right right Come here. Now there's two were going
away into the shop yourself, Robbie Henshaw probably after the
match found a to your own his pocket for some reason.
Where did this come from? Great?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yeah, and the world there is original.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I'm getting pumped back up again. Do you know that?
After that match? I was like, yes, I do. I
forgot that. How do I keep forgetting that? I love
the Six Nations? Piper on the roof. She'll be up there,
she'll be up there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Oh, yes, yes, we're having a six we're having a
six na. We're having a six Nations party this weekend.
Sorry for closing those, and wait to talk about the
piper next week. The I pulled, we pulled it. I
divided the whole team into groups. First front row, second row,

(01:02:56):
back row uh shan whatever you call it, a nineteen
centers and back three pull the country out for each
one who strips up as that country. This again, whatever
you do with flag or colors or a jersey or whatever,
or a famous person who do the back rows get England.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
You're walking around big ol Tom Curry and you Ben Earl. Yeah,
we'll see, we'll see. They have it all up within
them this weekend. All right, in all fairness with Lord
only knows what's going to happen, and Jupont goes mad'll
be able to keep keep controlling. But anyway we'll have

(01:03:40):
we have Scottish things to do, plenty to talk about,
and right, well, that has been absolutely sensational, fair, fair,
fair of the sixth Nations. I'm very very excited the
piper kicks off. I mean there's a jealousy, We're going, God,
they're they're six and their their anthemus class it. Then

(01:04:00):
it fires me right up and like righte, brave heart bests,
let's be having you. Yeah, I can't wait, And yeah
you mind the rocks?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, and you mind the rocks Banana and Robbie Pod