October 11, 2024 • 48 mins
Bear reconciles with the Saffers and Banana dodges a Perpignan-shaped bullet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It the Bananas Rugby Pod.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome everybody to another episode of an an Am Bear
Rugby Podcast. I don't believe we got the microphone working
because we are both idiots. That's when it has transpirted
when it comes to these kind of things. The last
time I made it work was with a youth into
twenty year old person made it work. But it doesn't
matter because Anna has braved the storms of Larrachelle and
(00:28):
thank god you're with us. How are you keeping my God?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah? Good? Like I said it was saying there a
minute ago, I swear it was like I swam to
work this morning, tak for two hours and then swam
home again. I was soaked, but at least like my
lesson was from eight to ten am for a place
of the students say they come in very bright eyed
and bushy tailed on the Wednesday morning, But then I
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was done and they had to stay in school with
their wet shoes and socks. So actually felt sorry for them.
But busy fucking things are ramping up and I shouldn't again,
you're the busiest man in Ireland, so I won't complain
too much. But all good started the season as well.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Clear how did you get on good? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We uh, we want we want. It's actually so it's
against Papagnant, which was the team that was that I
was in conversation with about going there and then I
decided against it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And was there a kind of a puld your color
kind of shoe moment like when you ran into like
the backroom staff ends and I.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Was like, no, there was a small bit I suppose,
but like I kind of nipped in the bold straight away,
just went over because I know I know them as well,
and at least I know them from talking to them
over the summer as well. But it was very clear,
you know what my intentions were and everything, and it
was very bright, honest in good conversation. So it was good.
(01:58):
It was nice and DYU and per poem for them. Afterwards,
I say, but we won sixty five nail Jesus christ Yeah,
so there.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And a hold on you just let that roll off
the tongue. There's sixty five nil, Like yeah, were you
allowed to shoot one or two of them?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
My?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
What like Jesus Christy steam rolled them?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
We did steam roll them. They I think they'd thirteen forwards.
Is it all like loads of players playing out of
the position and stuff. So tough out gig for them
and a long out road there.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Oh yeah, they told me.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
When they told me it wasn't raining there, I almost
hopped on the bust of them. Make my transfer straight
away because the weather is fucking terrible.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Here, I tell the truth. You walk back into the
training rooms. Gone, Jesus Christ dodged that pullet.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You could have been their number.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You could have been there one of the background players,
like taking sixty five sixty five Queen Tea cross the
back of the neck and having the traps all of
it back. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So actually, because I've been again like always managing like
little niggles here and there, especially with my back as well.
At the moment, think it was selling about before. It
wasn't a hugely attritional game, which was a good start
for me physically. So I felt kind of good after it.
Feeling good in training this week. Still managing a few niggles,
(03:29):
but all all good. But we actually we went to
the the men's game on Saturday, yes, and we were
presenting our Bookley to the crowd.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Which is the for anybody who's who's just tuned in
for the first ever time. It isn't like because you
made that sound lovely like a big bunch of flowers.
It was your your trophy, like you you showed your
trophy to the crowd, like you went and did we.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Trophy the larity of the house speaking Yeah it so
we have two booklya because we won the two divisions.
But it's it's like, it's not like a trophy. There's
a different kind of experience, you know. I love a
good trophy that you can take a sweep from and
(04:17):
you get a big shield.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's a big shield.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, it's a massive, heavy fucking like you can't you
can barely lift it on your own, Like you have
to get into full on squad position to lift it up,
like what And we were like, oh, it's heavy. We
actually had a competition to to to weigh it and
I cannot remember what the final answer was, but it's
(04:40):
fucking heavy and it's awkward as hell. Like you gety
messages going in like where are the booklea? Who has
the booklet? And it's like, oh, I'll bring them, but
you have to you have to have a car, Like
I can't ever look after the book because I don't
have a car.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's like you could bring it to a fair ground
and put it in a pen and people have to
get the way you remember, like, and don't believe it's
gets the way to pay us Genlin.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, you will be gonna feeding a sweets to make
it heavier.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, turn it around there, let me have a look
at the time quarters there and get it up.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Get it up so I can have a looking at it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But it's so funny because we were so they were
playing Lee Leon in the stadium and it was actually
between all the shire. It was a lovely evening and
it's and it's still warm here because it's kind of
stormy season, so at least it was kind of warm.
But we were going in we met outside. Now I
was a little bit my my perception of what was
(05:37):
going to happen was warped because with Monster, whenever we've
been invited to one of the men's games, we're from
the hospitality. We make a huge night of it. We
come out on the pitch at halftime and wave to everyone.
And I came in and everyone was standing around. I
was like, lads, when are we going inside? They were like, Anna,
this is it. They didn't even have seats and we
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were and I was like, I was like, we're all
playing tomorrow with the two first game season tomorrow, and
we were all fucking standing around. We actually had to
go inside to sit down to watch us. This is great.
And then he told us, no, no, you're not coming
on a halftime. You're going to go out at the
end when everyone's leaving. Jesus, Christ, Jesus. Then we went
(06:24):
out on the pitch, which was very bizarre because the
men had finished and they always do a little lap
of honor, so it was nice like to call it
the lap of honor with the lads, but I'd say
people were like, you know, they were halfway out the door,
like people we turned facing the exit giving you a clap.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You know, why why not bring you out of the break?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Like what did they have the under sevens or something?
Or what was the break?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
There was a kicking competition, for fos sake?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Could they not have put you in the competition at
least just to do you know what? I know, why
why you have a kicking competition? Have the pet scandal
and guess the way to the booklet with the audience,
somebody somebody wins, you know, dinner with the team or
something like. Jesus, mister trick there, I need to get
into the marketing here for lettership.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
This is disgraceful.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I know. That reminds me of the time down in
Australia they have Ladies Day at the club and we
weren't playing that day, so we were able to kind
of get all dressed up and there was a few
like men's macterzine for Ladies Day like and the fellow
came around and recruiting people for the race. At halftime,
he was like, there's gonna be a race. I need volunteers,
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and need volunteers. It's for a hoover, giving away a hoover, okay,
and your man's like, it's for a hoover for a hoover,
like analing this Jesus Christ. Anyway, when we run the
race and you're one one, it was a ice in
(08:00):
hair dryer. So yeah, I wish, yeah we could have
done that guess the weight and had had played played
the kicking game ourselves and one. But anyway, it was
who was a nice evening. They gave us beer and
(08:23):
chopped sasage afterwards, but sure no one was drinking because
we were playing on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
They know full well with the red Here have a beer.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That's why it was so funny. I was given out
before and being like, I can't believe we're wasting our
night in the in the carpet box because we're playing
the next day. We can't even take more a measurement.
And then there's no carver box. What was I I
want to take? I would have at least flat in
the corver box, not drank all the fucking beer. Anyway,
(08:52):
next next time we win the French Championship, maybe.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, there you go, there you go. I did the
did the men win?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah? They had a good two good tries in the
second half. It was a good game. Yeah they're joined
top now joint top.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Right right, Well, I mean look good, look good.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Better plate him?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But at early doors, at the early doors, I I
and I know Jesus Christ, like, well, my phone knows
that I'm about to talk to you, right, so earlier
on today I had no intention to talk about to
Pand but of course he's off like playing, you know,
a trainer with fucking American football teams and everything.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But I don't know where he is.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But it looks English could I could be wrong, but
it looks English. He's he was in a park, whether
it was at the dog or whatever, he was just
in a park and his father and son were chucking
the ruggy ball around and they just bot looked him
at look good. They just the father. It's been a
few years since he threw a spin pass anyway. That's
for sure over ten feet over ten meters, so he
(09:57):
had to hoof it over maybe maybe twenty thirty meters
to to DuPont, and DuPont is just there was I
don't notice his dog or whatever, and he catches it
and it's like I know who I am, but fucking
watch this. And he throws you know, the reverse pass
like sweet yeah, and he's landing it right in the
(10:19):
kid's bread basket like and then they pass it back
and he throws another one again and there are bullets
like faster than you could ever throw forward in the
regular way, like these bullets, and then he just waves
them off. It's like, got your cool, bastard, You are
a cool bastard. It just he rocks up in Perhaps.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I haven't seen that at all.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I'll find I'll find it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'll find it and send it to you. I am
maybe now, maybe this could have been filmed you know
yourself a month ago, like easy, or it could have
been inter loose. It just had an English vibe to it.
The grass in the in the park looked less French,
you know what I mean. I'm just going on the grass,
(10:58):
but I have I'm trying to mend my ways, you know,
the way I've been kind of ripping into South Africa
the last couple of weeks. Right, No, I'm trying to
mend my ways because I think it's a bad, negative
thing to do, is to because I had to have
a word of myself going. This could spire out of
control tome and you could actually just make enemies for
no reason at all. With South African rugby, not to
(11:20):
you know, I'm not sure they're stressing about it. But
at the same time, so I I I started to
listen to Razzie's audiobook, and yes, I'm glad I didn't
try and read it because I would have packed in.
After page two the name looked names and then for
(11:43):
the first chapter he decides to lead with like this,
the Afrikaans phrase. So my mother turned to me and said, mummy,
And then he would he would translate it. I'm like,
are you half the fucking book with just Afrikaans? And
then but in fairness, it was just to lead you
(12:04):
in that he was proud enough to say that he
was out of an African. It wasn't him speaking, but
a guy that sounds very like him. But every page
do you ever get to a part in a book
where you're like, just I can't read that word, but
I'll make up my own version of it, and it keeps.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
On showing up in the book like Hermione Granger.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, And that's that's what would have
happened to me. I would have had to just make
up what I thought it sounded like. There was definitely
none of the you know that wouldn't. But it's a
way bitter impact when a fella's reading it who actually
sounds like he should sound. But yeah, in fairness, now,
in fairness, it's a it's a decent listen so far
(12:49):
tough enough was stationed at home when he was a
on flop. But I'm only a couple of chapters in.
It seems like a bit of a gas character back
in the day. All the same, you can see where
he was a bit why he's a bit eccentric, you
know that kind of way. He was like, I just
thought of the things this way. But but yeah, I'm
mending my ways with South Africa.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I am.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I don't think it's healthy to create create an enemy
of an entire nation.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Good. I'm glad because I'm no, I'm not not not
yet anyway. Sorry, fuck it's gone. No, I'm glad because
I don't. I won't feel so bad now when I
(13:36):
bring up South Africa and you're like, you.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Know that'd be Look, I'm not saying it's going to
be a smooth transition. There's going to be moments of
me going a wrap for.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But I'm doing He's an interesting boy, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He like he definitely didn't go to the like and
it's not that day I've I would hold anybody, you know,
in indifferent to complica. They just came from more privileged background.
But he certainly did not come from any former privileged
background whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And so you know, what he's talking about is true
from his own experience exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And that's where I was kind of going, all right,
all right, but you know, and he it would seem
anyway from the stories from his childhood that he he
was a good egg despite he could have he could
have been a bastard, do you know what I mean?
He could have gone another way, like given just a
tough upbringing.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Like he needs to be studied.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I think for sure they've even now maybe I'll there'll
be more poor out in the book, but there's definitely
bits that have skimmed through or like why did you
think like that when nobody was thinking like that back
in the day. You know, there doesn't seem to be
an origin story as to why he was such an
outlier of a thinker, but it would seem at his
(14:56):
in his playing days, the best, the best he played
at was when he didn't actually think too much about
every and just took things instinctively. Do you know, he
just was an instinctive player.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
So that's that's Unfortunately, that's true for a lot of
players because coaches need to have so much control now, Yes,
and system based rugby has really taken over and the
pendulum has swung too far where you were overlooking the
potential strengths of someone who could have been as good
(15:29):
as you know, Rasi Rasmas or whatever. But actually, you know,
you're talking about that now, I might read it. Because
I've been avoiding sports autobiographies for a long time now
because because they were getting far too much into my head.
I was getting into my own head about it. So
I've been avoiding them. I've been reading novels at least
(15:51):
trying to get back into reading. But actually I think
I think I might give that a go.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't think this one would be too much because
in fairness, it's fairly far removed from your like it's
very Afrikaans, like, it's very South Africa.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
So far.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Anyway, I've got to maybe chapter four, and I don't
think you'll go it'll get too far into your head.
I think you'll be a happy spectator, like in that
it's it's like, oh Jesus, I don't relate to any
of this at all. Do you know?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
This is?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
This is stone mad, you know, and where he came from,
like and stuff like that. So it's I think you'll
be all right for for as far as I've gotten anyway.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
And I think it's just like I bowed out of.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Rob Kareny's one. I tried to listen to Rob Kareny's one, and.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, who does that voice over. Is he doing it himself?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
No, no, he's not, and probably the four head. No
he didn't, he didn't do it. He didn't. Somebody else
did it.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
What is the other person that's doing it? A big
d forehead?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, yeah, a bit a bit now on it And
it's a tough listen. But also it's like there's you
kind of want a bit of drama, like and it doesn't.
There's a bit obviously, there's a bit of you know,
extreme family sadness right at the beginning of it, like
and but other than that, it was like, oh jesez
(17:18):
Christ were going from one transition to the next. Ear Now.
There was a few bits all right that I liked,
but he could have cut loose so much more in
the book where there was a guy, there was a
there was a journalist who was wrecking his head like
he was just running him down.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
For like three or four years.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And I can't, I won't. I won't name him anyway
if I could fucking name him, but I can't name him.
I'm not going to name him. But he walked into
the pub where Ireland about out of the World Cup
at the time in two thousand and nineteen, was it.
I think it was twenty nineteen. It could have been
the previous one. It could have been twenty fifteen. I
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can't remember, but there were there was a few him
and the probably his bodies were in this pub. It
was in Japan. It was in this pub and your
man happened to walk in and he just he says
something I've never done in my life. I just sat it,
just stood up and get the fuck out of this
fucking pub. And your man just reversed back out the door.
It was but I was like, come on, give us
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more of that, Rob, And there was no more that.
It wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
There was no more of that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Do you know where Sea SHAWNA Brian's book is full
of that? And it's Sean reading it with a big
tea fucking Carlo accent, which makes it hilarious.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Did Rob Kearney ever talk about whether that was him
having sex on the balcony without him? Do you remember
seeing that video?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
No? I never saw no video. I don't think it did.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It wasn't. It was this couple, couple having sex on
a balcony on a balcony, and people were saying it
looked like Rob Kearney.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
There's no there's no way it was Robed Garney. Judging
by what I listened to in that book, it was
like no, that's no, no, no, no, no, it wouldn't
have been It might have been Sean of Brien, but
it wouldn't have been Robed Garney.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
It might have been fucking razzy.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
But yeah, anyway, anyway, getting getting onto to the rugby
that we had at the weekend singing Rugby.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I know we did go to our Monster show this weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We did, we I do you know what I'm there's
a strong chance that if you guys listened to the
podcast and listen to my exclamation of of of whoa
from last week because it.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Was bad botster shy.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
If you were though, this is like you wouldn't say
it if they were shit every week. This is the
thing like just like when your friends do you know,
I mean, if.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
You're freaking they fucking knew what them elves.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
The of course did you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They were like what And everybody can have a glitch
in the matrix, like everybody started the season two. You're
you know, the engine is cowled. You're just and a
couple of you know, a few things moved, but they
obviously obviously got well motivated during the week, I would
imagine because the most horrendous yellow storm yellowing storm warning
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in Cork on Saturday night. It was disgusting, the rain was,
it was rough.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
There was people like the match in their swimming gear.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You love to see that carry on, like just people
just being just being legends, hoping they'll get caught. And
I'm delighted they got caught in camera like it was
just wearing their screwing hats and goggles and everything. But
but yeah, like the the aggression, the aggression that they
show at the breakdown was.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
It was just ferocious.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
For every hit they were bouncing back up and just
hitting somebody again, do you know what I mean, just
shown that they actually have it.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
It was so aggressions.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Do you know what it's reminding me of it. I
was speaking to a friend there this week about something
she was doing in work and it was it was
analyzed like a manager came to look at it and
they weren't too happy with it. So she worked her
whole off to get it right. And then the manager
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was really happy with that, she did a really good job.
I was like, that's the focus that you needed to
bring into that monster match, that level of Okay, this
is my job. I need to show how well I
can do this job to keep my job. Like be aside,
like when you're like fuck, like I can't be fucking
(22:01):
up like that, Like I need you know, when you're
like looking at every detail, you're fucking wrecked, but you're
getting the adrenaline from like needing to get it right.
That's what That's what it reminds me of.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, it's it's interesting I heard. Yeah, it's very interesting
to say that because a memory came shooting into my
head years ago. I remember speaking with a guy, very
wealthy man from a posh road in Dublin. Nice fella,
nice fella. But he was telling me that he was
actually Ian Madigan's mentor outside of rugby, and he was
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he was a self made, very successful man, but never
came off at ten every day. That's that's the way
his brain was. Just everything was at ten, and Madigan
would often ring him the morning of a match for
a mind frame kind of out to be outside rugby
rather than just talking to a rugby person to talk
to somebody. How do I switch how do I switch on?
(22:57):
For you know, to be at eleven even today? Like
so it was it was interesting, you know that that
guy had that approach. But and you're you're thinking the
same to you because it was it was so evident.
It wasn't just that it was a wet night. And
the osprings are not bad like they used to be
pants but they're actually good now. But and they you know,
(23:19):
like there was a long period where they monster weren't scored.
Now they went on and I won like twenty three nil.
And by the way, honourble mentioned and you have Seae
McCarty as their name tonight fastest try in your URC history,
Like there was no there was no fluke that Jack
Jack Crowley did that he knew full well what he
was doing, catching your man cold. And the pistons of
(23:39):
rain bounced off his shoulder and Seae McCarty in like
a rat in like a rat up a drain pipe
was in on the ball and get the run over
the line. And I think it was a ten seconds
was a fourteen?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oh, I think it was fourteen, uh maybe ten. By
the time the ball I thought it was fourteen maybe
by the.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Time it was given. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I was in mcnaughty's and uh was I met I
met some people from Limerick in there last year and
they were back again for the weekend. They were actually
texting me about tickets for the match. Shout out to
Jerry and Meggs if they're listening, and they're from Richmond,
and he was saying like, Seye McCarty's playing tonight, Seay McCarty,
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and I.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Like, that's a very good Limerick. That's very good Richmond.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Kid, like fucking true and true Richmond, like, and our
arses had barely touched the fucking stools of the bar
and he was over for the try. I was like,
what the fuck, Like we don't even talking about him,
like ten seconds before, and he was on the score sheet.
It was it was class and and and Jerry was
standing up like, oh my god, like unbelievable. So that's
(24:56):
why I as well as like you say, the fastest try.
I it was a nice moment to share with like
people from the same club. So yeah, that's my name
for the podcast tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Shee McCarty McCarty.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's very good, that's very good. Impression.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They yeah, they they they yeah. They destroyed them in
every in every way, purely based on aggression and want,
but very much helped by Jack Crowley and Craig Casey
in unbelievable form like you wouldn't think, like, you know,
the cameras don't really don't show the rain until they're
(25:34):
down pitch side, So it looked you could just take
it that the way they were playing, the way they
were playing was like a sunny day. That's that's the
confidence and flow state. They both were just switched on
and Jack Crowdy's first start in a while. But I
mean they were just switched on on, like what this
whole sorry sorry, go on, you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
That they those two, right, you know, there's been like
question marks over like especially after last week, like monsters
leadership and all the injuries and who's going to take
They're the two, they're your leaders. They're the two that
have the capabilities like and and with you know, kind
of Crowley's cool head and cases like kind of frantic
(26:21):
energy like that combo. They should be your almost your
co captains. Young fucking they've probably been in the shadows
of good leadership for a while, so They're may be
not too you know, up for taking the reins, but
they got to take them. I think that's your that's
especially given how how well they played. That's what you need.
(26:42):
That's what monster need to hang their hat on. Now.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I think I think you're one percent right. I don't
think they would shirk it. I don't think they would
shirk you know, the responsibility, but.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Maybe still maybe holding back, maybe slightly.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, if there's more, if there's more to come, I'd
be very like because the confidence the crowd.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
He was just pulling off these chip kicks and just
pulling off stuff. You're like, what it's pissing rain up
the jersey kind of stuff. Nah, not at all. It
just he just looked in and of course when you're
getting a service like.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Jesus like this has been like that.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I love the protection of the scrum half now like that,
they're you know, the the willingness to have to get
it away because it's his speed. He just he picks
the perfect lines, even if there's Fellow's line in the way.
He's not looking for it now, he's just jumping straight
over him like a mini race horse, jumps straight over him.
Got ball gone. And I mean he's still got mad
(27:43):
in the match coming off fifty odd minutes. At fifty
odd minutes, he's still got mad at the match for
the for what he generated in the time he was on. Now,
poor old Connor Murray. I mean he's done it all,
you know what I mean, A three time lion and everything,
so you give him the benefit it out. But I
don't know if you saw out the back of her
(28:03):
out the back of a rock. He didn't know whether
he was going to pass it or go himself, and
the ball just it just flopped out of his I
was just the saddest thing to see it flopping out
of his hand.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
You're like, ah, towards the end, was it?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, And he wasn't. The thing was, he's still
an amazing player in Connor Murray, but it just his
hands weren't up to the pitch of the game, do
you know what I mean? His like and the ball
must been a fucking bar of soap, but he was
just not up to the pitch of the game at
this stage and it fell out of his hands in
the most weird, awkward waves like what you had it
(28:44):
and then it just went No, it's gone out. It
was just sickening for him. But all in all, yeah,
a great response to see from Munster. Unfortunately, Peter Romany
and Ali Jager have gone for scans and won't be
available this weekend. Hamstringer man and his shoulder, Jager and
Mike Healley looked fairly fairly well. He'd come off, did
(29:07):
something gammy to his ankle, and he was having a
great game, like nothing, nothing was bouncing off his chest,
he was he was catching every ball that came flying
down a top of him, like but so did I.
They're leaving it till last minute to make call on him.
But three, you know, I mean, Jager still doing enough,
(29:29):
you know, new enough to have on the scene. But
at the same time, you know, a lost lose a
twenty stone front.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Drawer, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
But then'm saying that Steven Archer command had an unbelievable game,
just still absolutely putting it out, you know. And they
have Leinster this weekend, Leinster Monster this weekend.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
On Saturday. Yeah, great, great can of momentum builders to
come into the Begind then.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
It will it'll be very interesting to see h coming
on or if he starts, because he was in he
was in Blue at the weekend and it was just weird.
It was just weird to see him in blue leg.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Of all the South Africans are not coming around to
him yet.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I don't if if it, if it at all helps,
I absolutely fucking roasted him for doing that to his face,
so if that helps it all, I mean I roasted
him bad, like almost as good that on top, you know,
I said, look, and even factored in the fact that
he you know, tried to kill three of his teammates
with a barbecue that time, like where they he burnt
(30:39):
everybody and he loved it. That was the thing, to
be fair, He was a great sport. He loved being
ripped asunder. So but I know, I.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Mean, he's apparently a wonderful fella, and I I'm really
like form the fact that he's the move was also
based on like his wife's professional career as well, like
that's not often comes into the conversation, and I really
like enjoyed that, and I was like, well, fucking fair play.
But I'm also very mad at him.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah of course Jesus, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Someone in your family like going for me.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, we need time apart, I can't look at you
right now. This is still gross. Yeah yeah, so yeah
they played this weekend. Big shout out to Tom Farrell
actually coming from Connacht. He had a I really I'm
not going to say. I mean, I won't say it
was my man of the match, but I wouldn't have
been upset had he been given it. But great to
(31:37):
see a fella who was played with injury but was
on Ireland's radar and absolutely laid down a marker the
other night like he is a serious baller, like he
and not in any and ultimately confident. Do you know
it wasn't just going right, I'll just I've just been
the man to shovel it on for my first start.
(31:57):
Not he was taken on everything, every fucking thing and
a bloody good player too to be right. Interesting if
they start him and Ninkville at the weekend. And also
was it I don't know what the other lad is.
A Fitzgerald is his name. He was playing Ail last year,
which is class to see the monster because they don't
have the range of the schools teams. They are dipping
(32:19):
into the Ail. They're looking at the Ail for serious players,
which is brilliant.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Did you get to watch the women the women against Canada.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You had said to you, you'd.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Warned us of Canada that they were no, you know,
it wasn't in anywhere relatable to the men's team.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, the two the people like Canada, but
Canada number two in the world. Like, but it's funny
what in Canada play there? They look this is like
no offense to Canada because they're number two in the
world and they're brilliant. And I've always have had so
much admiration for Canada that they achieved their success not
(33:06):
in the shadow of the men's game. You know, they're
just like because you know they have you know, they
didn't need to start a women's team because there was
a men's team there already. But the reason and this
dawned on me when I was in college and there
was a lot of Canadian players turning up, like from
(33:28):
doing their study abroad, and they'd come down to the
rugby team and they'd be very, very good and you'd
almost not be expecting it. But you know, I learned
through what Canadian women's rugby was like. But basically it's
a college sport that kind of counters all the men's
sports that are there, and rugby is like one of
the most popular women's ones because like ice hockey, I
(33:51):
suppose like American football that they you know, that would
be popular in Canada too, But basically rugby is like
one of the most popular like field sports for women there.
And they play so well, but their technique is terrible
or something. I don't know. They're all like their hands
where they're kicking the ball, like their pats are in
(34:13):
the air, like they just don't look like conventional rugby players,
which again is kind of admirable because they're so good.
They're just fucking hard as nails. And yeah, they played
well and it was a funny kind of a game,
like Ireland has got two yellow cards like Christ the
Dean and they still played fucking well. I just can't
(34:35):
nothing is I don't actually care that Ireland lost, not
they don't. They still don't look shock. And you know,
we were talking about obviously if away for last week,
which I feel like we will be talking about for
a long time. Every week, she'll be our new Like
I was thinking about this, you know, we have like
a d after DuPont, We're gonna have like a w
(34:56):
after Awafer as well. Yeah for sure, like this is
the change of Tays. But she oh yeah in the
scroll like on the MIC's raft, you can you can
hear Hanada, you know from the defense saying Wayfer yeah,
Wayfer Yeah. So basically they have her fucking targeted. This
(35:19):
is it, Like this is what I was saying. You know,
this is going to start for her now. She is
going to be like one of the earmarked players because
she's so fucking good and it creates a bit of
fear around Ireland because she's so good. So when she
was brilliant again, like that like characteristic pickup from the
back of the scrub she has and like she kind
of nods her head in the first few steps and
(35:40):
then just goes like.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Bit of I was just looking at it the other day,
a bit of a seawn of Brian about her, like
she was like she she loves it, do you know
what I mean? She absolutely loves its. Yeah, just as
you said, there's a giddy up right at the beginning.
It's like, oh you got all right, you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Just yes exactly, it's us. I like pray to God,
like touching one here that that's something we're going to
be watching for a fucking long time, and defenses are
going to be like, oh no, like whoever is the
open side.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
There was going to be like fuck, I think it's
up to everybody. It's up to everybody else now to
you know, to not to mold their game around a
wrong way for bud it to be almost you know,
like the French team, You go, if he's off, we're
after him, do you know what I mean? If he's
away to somebody beyond the on either shoulder, do you
(36:33):
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
And be ready. Same thing with her, and you know.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You wouldn't believe it's it's you would It's easy nearly
turned around at this stage and go, hey, if Eva
has it, I know you're our class. But if Eva
has it, get after, Just get after because something cool
is about to happen, Like, just do not let her
by herself, because she will bust. She'll bust open the door,
she will bust defenses and put him on the back foot,
(36:59):
and you better capitalize on it. Do you know that
kind of There's times yeah, sorry, because there's times I've
seen her, Like Jesus Christ, she's doing this, She's operating
in another dimension. You need, you need to almost know
what she's about to do next so that you can
be up there with her, because if she busts open
(37:20):
a door for you, be fucking in after it, like
you know what I mean, don't like she'd done all
this hard work for you and put everybody's running on
the back foot. Now is the time to kill him?
Like she's like she is. She's the heavy artillery you're
sending force like that's gonna absolutely level everything.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
But she had an unbelievable Carrie like I don't know
how many measures. And then the best thing about it
is the quality of players around her. Then it's not
just her on her own, like they're fucking like Dan O'Brien. Now,
she didn't have her best game because she made a
few kind of fun characteristic errors, but like whatever, you know,
that happens, and everyone has days like that. The way
(38:00):
she's able to sit in behind then crossfield kick bang,
no bother that came off, Yeah, ephe's Carrie. But then
having the players around her to finish it off. So
that's the exciting thing as well. You know, it's not
like you're like, oh, there was no one with her,
she's on her own like the quality of player around
(38:21):
her and like waifers wearing seven, but she's playing eight
and attack and then and then defending seven, so she's
doing like just doing so much work, like around the pitch.
That's just it's just class. And like this weekend, like
I just I don't think USA will be able to
hold Ireland's kind of excitement down now, not to USA
(38:44):
have been going well as well, but I just think
Ireland are however, the way you put it in another dimension,
they're just they're just riding a wave. And even the
lost to Canada like that includes that too. You know,
they're probably disappointed because they probably could have beaten can.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Or they could have done two other cards, Like I mean,
you're you've Jesus Christ, you put rocks in your pockets
like good by doing something like that, you're like for
there could have been so many more opportunities created if
we'd you know, a full compliment for the entire match,
And they probably look at and go not not be
you know, sad, but disappointed, going Boles girls, Next fucking week,
(39:21):
we don't make those mistakes, do you know what I mean?
Next week, we don't fucking do that again.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
They need the lessons now, because it's not good for
them to be like fucking steamrolling through everyone only having
they're only they're only at the start of their journey. Yes,
you know, this isn't a team that's been in in
going for years and now they're finally making This is
literally the beginning of the journey still, you know, or starting.
I suppose the beginning of it was that w XV
(39:49):
two but like they barely beat Spain. They could have
with another kick of the game, or could have lost
to Spain and they would still be WXV three. Now,
you know, it's very strange, you know, like how one
small result like that can literally change the trajectory of
(40:11):
a whole demographic of rugby in the country, because that's
what that's going to do for oursh girls.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
But isn't that isn't that talking about taking your opportunity,
like you know, nearly, Like it's taken twenty years for
Italy to come good in the Six Nations, do you know,
and the men's and you're kind of going down to
some years. There's talks of Georgian whereas like you said,
one kick, they get one sniff inside the door, they
(40:37):
get the stick a fingernail inside the door of WXV
one and they're like, right, we're here, we're here, and
we're not here to just you know, take part.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
We're here to take over, but to coin to coin
that billet.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But it's it's very very exciting to see it that
they've gotten they've gotten the leg in the door and
now they're like, no, no, we're we're we're going out
to beating new even if that's all right, thanks very much,
good luck.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Do you know, brilliant, Well, it is a good year
now before the World Cup and that's you know, there's
plenty of rugby to be played before then. So it
is thee past the quarter finals.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Do you know what? What's the bet? And they're going
win the that's the bet and they'll go win it.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
You can finally beat in England, that's the goal.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
They'll get to show their trophy at As everybody's leaving
some stadium somewhere and Jesus Christ, listen, clatter of the
week came around. I don't know, do you have a
ticket the day? Do you have or or is there
anybody I suppose that poor bastard from Osprey's that just
didn't see it coming like, oh, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
The quick try for the day's for conceding the quickest
try in your history.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, Lord's save as the for me, the the clatter
of the week I sent it at and it was
Jesus Christ. They look good, the emerging Ireland lads. They
just look how are they so well coached as a
team and they've only been together like a wet week.
They just look so slick. And as we're speaking, as
(42:21):
we're recording, and they just beat what did they just
play Western?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yes, did they just play because it was the force
that the beat at the weekend? Was it?
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Oh? Sorry, uh, I can't give track. I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Hold on, I shall tell you. I shall tell you
as I I had it open. Let's just see one second.
This is making for great audio.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
That aur play. You are see that as well?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Sorry for you, hone, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
I know.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Sean O. Brian was released from back and and so
was it's his name hostile weeight he's from it's the
most ulster name of all time. Who's a serious candidate,
but he was he was left go as well. No, sorry,
they just yet they just beat Cheetus as we speak
thirty three twenty four, Oh yeah, thirty three twenty four,
(43:26):
and it was And again I think that the picture
that he put up was a chap. He's got his
finger in the air and it's it's the same fella
that we have a Class of the week against Western,
the Western. It must be Western problems that they were
playing Alex Sorocco so Rocca, I should say, And anybody
goes anybody go have a look on Instagram and probably
(43:47):
Twitter as well. I think it must be Maury Kinseler
or whatever. He puts up clips all the time, but
put up a clip of this lad and it was
just he kind of took it and then ran. He
shook somebody off in a tackle because he was in
the line and then decided I'm away. What fuck? He
generated force inside five meters and it just it was
(44:11):
titled brilliantly. He just said, sends him flying like skittles.
And there's two or three lads just it was like
something out of a movie. Just bounced and went in
all directions and we're holding their heads trying to tackle
this lad. And that's what he is as a lad.
He's only youngful it like, but it's just a smash
that you know, you know, if you made it, you'd
(44:31):
be like, oh yeah, oh yeah, there's a and of
course a try comes off the back of it, you know.
But it was it was an EFO way for Esque
in in how he smashed three people and they all
went flying. It was just beautiful. But it's very easily found.
I'll actually what I do is I'll share it to
my Instagram and tag and as well. But and absolutely
(44:52):
lovely that throughout the week.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Of the week. Yeah, he's been around for a while. Actually,
Alex Rocco is good to get you know, if you're
if you when you think about really the Irish squad
is such a small place, like if you're outside of
that then like you know, if you could feel really
far away from an Irish Jersey. So it's so it's
good to have an emerging Ireland squad, even if it's
(45:18):
just for Simon us to be a gain. But anyway,
it seems to be going well for.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Him, so it's great. It's great. Like it's as you said,
it's it's for lads who may or may not be
getting a looking even with their own province, like and
Alex kendlen Is the is the captain, and I mean
he ain't starting typically when John John hadnett Is is
you know, fresh and fire but a great candidate. Seen
that and then and it's having a great tournament as well.
(45:45):
So yeah, you know, one's one injury away from maybe
getting a call up to the to the main main thing.
Like and it's gee, there it is there, It is there,
it is there.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
It is another quick point. Sorry, I'm the women's game.
Now this might seem like a small little thing, but
it's kind of released to what we're talking about in
terms of like tours and stuff. But like the are
women's squad called flew someone out to Canada to Vancouver,
like flew an extra player out to cover someone who's injured,
(46:21):
even though they probably mightn't even play, like they've got
enough players to get through a squad, but obviously wanted
an extra body in training and like giving that opportunity
to a young player, flying them out, having them join
up with the squad like that never happens, or at
least it hasn't happened before, you know, in in the
women's game. So that's just another like really like pool that's.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Very encouraging that somebody opened up our strings for such
a thing like going here, emergency open to get her
over We need her. Is she going to start? I
know who knows what she's.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Going to do.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
We just need her train and no more questions. Just
get her over here, now.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
You know, exactly like the wood in the men's game.
You know, you just have someone flown out to hold
a bag, but to be part of it because you
know they're there, they're needed and they need to hold
a bag.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
So yeah, that's absolutely.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I'm a way to find a park somewhere and to
hope that and want to Pond shows up and just
starts throwing a ball at me just just to.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
See, Yeah, I might do the same. It might be
more likely to turn up in a park.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Here, Yeah that's the thing, than than somewhere in South Debrariy.
But you know, you're not.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Fucking probably easier to get to south to Prariy than
it is Larachelle. I told you and started a course.
I have to do a coaching course here in France
and I have to go to breathe well, by God,
the trains. I spent like a whole forty eight hours
on trains just to go for this like interview to
do to start a course in France, but have to
(47:56):
do a coaching course in France, so well you know
how that goes us.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
O Lord yeah, brilliant right till next week. Mind the rocks,
Mind the
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Rocks, it's the Banana and Bears rugby Pod.
It the Bananas Rugby Pod.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome everybody to another episode of an an Am Bear
Rugby Podcast. I don't believe we got the microphone working
because we are both idiots. That's when it has transpirted
when it comes to these kind of things. The last
time I made it work was with a youth into
twenty year old person made it work. But it doesn't
matter because Anna has braved the storms of Larrachelle and
(00:28):
thank god you're with us. How are you keeping my God?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah? Good? Like I said it was saying there a
minute ago, I swear it was like I swam to
work this morning, tak for two hours and then swam
home again. I was soaked, but at least like my
lesson was from eight to ten am for a place
of the students say they come in very bright eyed
and bushy tailed on the Wednesday morning, But then I
(00:54):
was done and they had to stay in school with
their wet shoes and socks. So actually felt sorry for them.
But busy fucking things are ramping up and I shouldn't again,
you're the busiest man in Ireland, so I won't complain
too much. But all good started the season as well.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Clear how did you get on good? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We uh, we want we want. It's actually so it's
against Papagnant, which was the team that was that I
was in conversation with about going there and then I
decided against it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And was there a kind of a puld your color
kind of shoe moment like when you ran into like
the backroom staff ends and I.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Was like, no, there was a small bit I suppose,
but like I kind of nipped in the bold straight away,
just went over because I know I know them as well,
and at least I know them from talking to them
over the summer as well. But it was very clear,
you know what my intentions were and everything, and it
was very bright, honest in good conversation. So it was good.
(01:58):
It was nice and DYU and per poem for them. Afterwards,
I say, but we won sixty five nail Jesus christ Yeah,
so there.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And a hold on you just let that roll off
the tongue. There's sixty five nil, Like yeah, were you
allowed to shoot one or two of them?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
My?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
What like Jesus Christy steam rolled them?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
We did steam roll them. They I think they'd thirteen forwards.
Is it all like loads of players playing out of
the position and stuff. So tough out gig for them
and a long out road there.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Oh yeah, they told me.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
When they told me it wasn't raining there, I almost
hopped on the bust of them. Make my transfer straight
away because the weather is fucking terrible.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Here, I tell the truth. You walk back into the
training rooms. Gone, Jesus Christ dodged that pullet.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You could have been their number.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You could have been there one of the background players,
like taking sixty five sixty five Queen Tea cross the
back of the neck and having the traps all of
it back. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So actually, because I've been again like always managing like
little niggles here and there, especially with my back as well.
At the moment, think it was selling about before. It
wasn't a hugely attritional game, which was a good start
for me physically. So I felt kind of good after it.
Feeling good in training this week. Still managing a few niggles,
(03:29):
but all all good. But we actually we went to
the the men's game on Saturday, yes, and we were
presenting our Bookley to the crowd.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Which is the for anybody who's who's just tuned in
for the first ever time. It isn't like because you
made that sound lovely like a big bunch of flowers.
It was your your trophy, like you you showed your
trophy to the crowd, like you went and did we.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Trophy the larity of the house speaking Yeah it so
we have two booklya because we won the two divisions.
But it's it's like, it's not like a trophy. There's
a different kind of experience, you know. I love a
good trophy that you can take a sweep from and
(04:17):
you get a big shield.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's a big shield.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, it's a massive, heavy fucking like you can't you
can barely lift it on your own, Like you have
to get into full on squad position to lift it up,
like what And we were like, oh, it's heavy. We
actually had a competition to to to weigh it and
I cannot remember what the final answer was, but it's
(04:40):
fucking heavy and it's awkward as hell. Like you gety
messages going in like where are the booklea? Who has
the booklet? And it's like, oh, I'll bring them, but
you have to you have to have a car, Like
I can't ever look after the book because I don't
have a car.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's like you could bring it to a fair ground
and put it in a pen and people have to
get the way you remember, like, and don't believe it's
gets the way to pay us Genlin.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, you will be gonna feeding a sweets to make
it heavier.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, turn it around there, let me have a look
at the time quarters there and get it up.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Get it up so I can have a looking at it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But it's so funny because we were so they were
playing Lee Leon in the stadium and it was actually
between all the shire. It was a lovely evening and
it's and it's still warm here because it's kind of
stormy season, so at least it was kind of warm.
But we were going in we met outside. Now I
was a little bit my my perception of what was
(05:37):
going to happen was warped because with Monster, whenever we've
been invited to one of the men's games, we're from
the hospitality. We make a huge night of it. We
come out on the pitch at halftime and wave to everyone.
And I came in and everyone was standing around. I
was like, lads, when are we going inside? They were like, Anna,
this is it. They didn't even have seats and we
(05:59):
were and I was like, I was like, we're all
playing tomorrow with the two first game season tomorrow, and
we were all fucking standing around. We actually had to
go inside to sit down to watch us. This is great.
And then he told us, no, no, you're not coming
on a halftime. You're going to go out at the
end when everyone's leaving. Jesus, Christ, Jesus. Then we went
(06:24):
out on the pitch, which was very bizarre because the
men had finished and they always do a little lap
of honor, so it was nice like to call it
the lap of honor with the lads, but I'd say
people were like, you know, they were halfway out the door,
like people we turned facing the exit giving you a clap.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You know, why why not bring you out of the break?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Like what did they have the under sevens or something?
Or what was the break?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
There was a kicking competition, for fos sake?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Could they not have put you in the competition at
least just to do you know what? I know, why
why you have a kicking competition? Have the pet scandal
and guess the way to the booklet with the audience,
somebody somebody wins, you know, dinner with the team or
something like. Jesus, mister trick there, I need to get
into the marketing here for lettership.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
This is disgraceful.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I know. That reminds me of the time down in
Australia they have Ladies Day at the club and we
weren't playing that day, so we were able to kind
of get all dressed up and there was a few
like men's macterzine for Ladies Day like and the fellow
came around and recruiting people for the race. At halftime,
he was like, there's gonna be a race. I need volunteers,
(07:40):
and need volunteers. It's for a hoover, giving away a hoover, okay,
and your man's like, it's for a hoover for a hoover,
like analing this Jesus Christ. Anyway, when we run the
race and you're one one, it was a ice in
(08:00):
hair dryer. So yeah, I wish, yeah we could have
done that guess the weight and had had played played
the kicking game ourselves and one. But anyway, it was
who was a nice evening. They gave us beer and
(08:23):
chopped sasage afterwards, but sure no one was drinking because
we were playing on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
They know full well with the red Here have a beer.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That's why it was so funny. I was given out
before and being like, I can't believe we're wasting our
night in the in the carpet box because we're playing
the next day. We can't even take more a measurement.
And then there's no carver box. What was I I
want to take? I would have at least flat in
the corver box, not drank all the fucking beer. Anyway,
(08:52):
next next time we win the French Championship, maybe.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, there you go, there you go. I did the
did the men win?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah? They had a good two good tries in the
second half. It was a good game. Yeah they're joined
top now joint top.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Right right, Well, I mean look good, look good.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Better plate him?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But at early doors, at the early doors, I I
and I know Jesus Christ, like, well, my phone knows
that I'm about to talk to you, right, so earlier
on today I had no intention to talk about to
Pand but of course he's off like playing, you know,
a trainer with fucking American football teams and everything.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But I don't know where he is.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But it looks English could I could be wrong, but
it looks English. He's he was in a park, whether
it was at the dog or whatever, he was just
in a park and his father and son were chucking
the ruggy ball around and they just bot looked him
at look good. They just the father. It's been a
few years since he threw a spin pass anyway. That's
for sure over ten feet over ten meters, so he
(09:57):
had to hoof it over maybe maybe twenty thirty meters
to to DuPont, and DuPont is just there was I
don't notice his dog or whatever, and he catches it
and it's like I know who I am, but fucking
watch this. And he throws you know, the reverse pass
like sweet yeah, and he's landing it right in the
(10:19):
kid's bread basket like and then they pass it back
and he throws another one again and there are bullets
like faster than you could ever throw forward in the
regular way, like these bullets, and then he just waves
them off. It's like, got your cool, bastard, You are
a cool bastard. It just he rocks up in Perhaps.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I haven't seen that at all.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I'll find I'll find it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'll find it and send it to you. I am
maybe now, maybe this could have been filmed you know
yourself a month ago, like easy, or it could have
been inter loose. It just had an English vibe to it.
The grass in the in the park looked less French,
you know what I mean. I'm just going on the grass,
(10:58):
but I have I'm trying to mend my ways, you know,
the way I've been kind of ripping into South Africa
the last couple of weeks. Right, No, I'm trying to
mend my ways because I think it's a bad, negative
thing to do, is to because I had to have
a word of myself going. This could spire out of
control tome and you could actually just make enemies for
no reason at all. With South African rugby, not to
(11:20):
you know, I'm not sure they're stressing about it. But
at the same time, so I I I started to
listen to Razzie's audiobook, and yes, I'm glad I didn't
try and read it because I would have packed in.
After page two the name looked names and then for
(11:43):
the first chapter he decides to lead with like this,
the Afrikaans phrase. So my mother turned to me and said, mummy,
And then he would he would translate it. I'm like,
are you half the fucking book with just Afrikaans? And
then but in fairness, it was just to lead you
(12:04):
in that he was proud enough to say that he
was out of an African. It wasn't him speaking, but
a guy that sounds very like him. But every page
do you ever get to a part in a book
where you're like, just I can't read that word, but
I'll make up my own version of it, and it keeps.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
On showing up in the book like Hermione Granger.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, And that's that's what would have
happened to me. I would have had to just make
up what I thought it sounded like. There was definitely
none of the you know that wouldn't. But it's a
way bitter impact when a fella's reading it who actually
sounds like he should sound. But yeah, in fairness, now,
in fairness, it's a it's a decent listen so far
(12:49):
tough enough was stationed at home when he was a
on flop. But I'm only a couple of chapters in.
It seems like a bit of a gas character back
in the day. All the same, you can see where
he was a bit why he's a bit eccentric, you
know that kind of way. He was like, I just
thought of the things this way. But but yeah, I'm
mending my ways with South Africa.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I am.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I don't think it's healthy to create create an enemy
of an entire nation.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Good. I'm glad because I'm no, I'm not not not
yet anyway. Sorry, fuck it's gone. No, I'm glad because
I don't. I won't feel so bad now when I
(13:36):
bring up South Africa and you're like, you.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Know that'd be Look, I'm not saying it's going to
be a smooth transition. There's going to be moments of
me going a wrap for.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But I'm doing He's an interesting boy, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He like he definitely didn't go to the like and
it's not that day I've I would hold anybody, you know,
in indifferent to complica. They just came from more privileged background.
But he certainly did not come from any former privileged
background whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And so you know, what he's talking about is true
from his own experience exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And that's where I was kind of going, all right,
all right, but you know, and he it would seem
anyway from the stories from his childhood that he he
was a good egg despite he could have he could
have been a bastard, do you know what I mean?
He could have gone another way, like given just a
tough upbringing.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Like he needs to be studied.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I think for sure they've even now maybe I'll there'll
be more poor out in the book, but there's definitely
bits that have skimmed through or like why did you
think like that when nobody was thinking like that back
in the day. You know, there doesn't seem to be
an origin story as to why he was such an
outlier of a thinker, but it would seem at his
(14:56):
in his playing days, the best, the best he played
at was when he didn't actually think too much about
every and just took things instinctively. Do you know, he
just was an instinctive player.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
So that's that's Unfortunately, that's true for a lot of
players because coaches need to have so much control now, Yes,
and system based rugby has really taken over and the
pendulum has swung too far where you were overlooking the
potential strengths of someone who could have been as good
(15:29):
as you know, Rasi Rasmas or whatever. But actually, you know,
you're talking about that now, I might read it. Because
I've been avoiding sports autobiographies for a long time now
because because they were getting far too much into my head.
I was getting into my own head about it. So
I've been avoiding them. I've been reading novels at least
(15:51):
trying to get back into reading. But actually I think
I think I might give that a go.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't think this one would be too much because
in fairness, it's fairly far removed from your like it's
very Afrikaans, like, it's very South Africa.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
So far.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Anyway, I've got to maybe chapter four, and I don't
think you'll go it'll get too far into your head.
I think you'll be a happy spectator, like in that
it's it's like, oh Jesus, I don't relate to any
of this at all. Do you know?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
This is?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
This is stone mad, you know, and where he came from,
like and stuff like that. So it's I think you'll
be all right for for as far as I've gotten anyway.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
And I think it's just like I bowed out of.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Rob Kareny's one. I tried to listen to Rob Kareny's one, and.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, who does that voice over. Is he doing it himself?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
No, no, he's not, and probably the four head. No
he didn't, he didn't do it. He didn't. Somebody else
did it.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
What is the other person that's doing it? A big
d forehead?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, yeah, a bit a bit now on it And
it's a tough listen. But also it's like there's you
kind of want a bit of drama, like and it doesn't.
There's a bit obviously, there's a bit of you know,
extreme family sadness right at the beginning of it, like
and but other than that, it was like, oh jesez
(17:18):
Christ were going from one transition to the next. Ear Now.
There was a few bits all right that I liked,
but he could have cut loose so much more in
the book where there was a guy, there was a
there was a journalist who was wrecking his head like
he was just running him down.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
For like three or four years.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And I can't, I won't. I won't name him anyway
if I could fucking name him, but I can't name him.
I'm not going to name him. But he walked into
the pub where Ireland about out of the World Cup
at the time in two thousand and nineteen, was it.
I think it was twenty nineteen. It could have been
the previous one. It could have been twenty fifteen. I
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can't remember, but there were there was a few him
and the probably his bodies were in this pub. It
was in Japan. It was in this pub and your
man happened to walk in and he just he says
something I've never done in my life. I just sat it,
just stood up and get the fuck out of this
fucking pub. And your man just reversed back out the door.
It was but I was like, come on, give us
(18:16):
more of that, Rob, And there was no more that.
It wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
There was no more of that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Do you know where Sea SHAWNA Brian's book is full
of that? And it's Sean reading it with a big
tea fucking Carlo accent, which makes it hilarious.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Did Rob Kearney ever talk about whether that was him
having sex on the balcony without him? Do you remember
seeing that video?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
No? I never saw no video. I don't think it did.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It wasn't. It was this couple, couple having sex on
a balcony on a balcony, and people were saying it
looked like Rob Kearney.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
There's no there's no way it was Robed Garney. Judging
by what I listened to in that book, it was
like no, that's no, no, no, no, no, it wouldn't
have been It might have been Sean of Brien, but
it wouldn't have been Robed Garney.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
It might have been fucking razzy.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
But yeah, anyway, anyway, getting getting onto to the rugby
that we had at the weekend singing Rugby.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I know we did go to our Monster show this weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We did, we I do you know what I'm there's
a strong chance that if you guys listened to the
podcast and listen to my exclamation of of of whoa
from last week because it.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Was bad botster shy.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
If you were though, this is like you wouldn't say
it if they were shit every week. This is the
thing like just like when your friends do you know,
I mean, if.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
You're freaking they fucking knew what them elves.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
The of course did you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They were like what And everybody can have a glitch
in the matrix, like everybody started the season two. You're
you know, the engine is cowled. You're just and a
couple of you know, a few things moved, but they
obviously obviously got well motivated during the week, I would
imagine because the most horrendous yellow storm yellowing storm warning
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in Cork on Saturday night. It was disgusting, the rain was,
it was rough.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
There was people like the match in their swimming gear.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You love to see that carry on, like just people
just being just being legends, hoping they'll get caught. And
I'm delighted they got caught in camera like it was
just wearing their screwing hats and goggles and everything. But
but yeah, like the the aggression, the aggression that they
show at the breakdown was.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
It was just ferocious.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
For every hit they were bouncing back up and just
hitting somebody again, do you know what I mean, just
shown that they actually have it.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
It was so aggressions.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Do you know what it's reminding me of it. I
was speaking to a friend there this week about something
she was doing in work and it was it was
analyzed like a manager came to look at it and
they weren't too happy with it. So she worked her
whole off to get it right. And then the manager
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was really happy with that, she did a really good job.
I was like, that's the focus that you needed to
bring into that monster match, that level of Okay, this
is my job. I need to show how well I
can do this job to keep my job. Like be aside,
like when you're like fuck, like I can't be fucking
(22:01):
up like that, Like I need you know, when you're
like looking at every detail, you're fucking wrecked, but you're
getting the adrenaline from like needing to get it right.
That's what That's what it reminds me of.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, it's it's interesting I heard. Yeah, it's very interesting
to say that because a memory came shooting into my
head years ago. I remember speaking with a guy, very
wealthy man from a posh road in Dublin. Nice fella,
nice fella. But he was telling me that he was
actually Ian Madigan's mentor outside of rugby, and he was
(22:36):
he was a self made, very successful man, but never
came off at ten every day. That's that's the way
his brain was. Just everything was at ten, and Madigan
would often ring him the morning of a match for
a mind frame kind of out to be outside rugby
rather than just talking to a rugby person to talk
to somebody. How do I switch how do I switch on?
(22:57):
For you know, to be at eleven even today? Like
so it was it was interesting, you know that that
guy had that approach. But and you're you're thinking the
same to you because it was it was so evident.
It wasn't just that it was a wet night. And
the osprings are not bad like they used to be
pants but they're actually good now. But and they you know,
(23:19):
like there was a long period where they monster weren't scored.
Now they went on and I won like twenty three nil.
And by the way, honourble mentioned and you have Seae
McCarty as their name tonight fastest try in your URC history,
Like there was no there was no fluke that Jack
Jack Crowley did that he knew full well what he
was doing, catching your man cold. And the pistons of
(23:39):
rain bounced off his shoulder and Seae McCarty in like
a rat in like a rat up a drain pipe
was in on the ball and get the run over
the line. And I think it was a ten seconds
was a fourteen?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oh, I think it was fourteen, uh maybe ten. By
the time the ball I thought it was fourteen maybe
by the.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Time it was given. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I was in mcnaughty's and uh was I met I
met some people from Limerick in there last year and
they were back again for the weekend. They were actually
texting me about tickets for the match. Shout out to
Jerry and Meggs if they're listening, and they're from Richmond,
and he was saying like, Seye McCarty's playing tonight, Seay McCarty,
(24:27):
and I.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Like, that's a very good Limerick. That's very good Richmond.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Kid, like fucking true and true Richmond, like, and our
arses had barely touched the fucking stools of the bar
and he was over for the try. I was like,
what the fuck, Like we don't even talking about him,
like ten seconds before, and he was on the score sheet.
It was it was class and and and Jerry was
standing up like, oh my god, like unbelievable. So that's
(24:56):
why I as well as like you say, the fastest try.
I it was a nice moment to share with like
people from the same club. So yeah, that's my name
for the podcast tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Shee McCarty McCarty.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's very good, that's very good. Impression.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They yeah, they they they yeah. They destroyed them in
every in every way, purely based on aggression and want,
but very much helped by Jack Crowley and Craig Casey
in unbelievable form like you wouldn't think, like, you know,
the cameras don't really don't show the rain until they're
(25:34):
down pitch side, So it looked you could just take
it that the way they were playing, the way they
were playing was like a sunny day. That's that's the
confidence and flow state. They both were just switched on
and Jack Crowdy's first start in a while. But I
mean they were just switched on on, like what this
whole sorry sorry, go on, you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
That they those two, right, you know, there's been like
question marks over like especially after last week, like monsters
leadership and all the injuries and who's going to take
They're the two, they're your leaders. They're the two that
have the capabilities like and and with you know, kind
of Crowley's cool head and cases like kind of frantic
(26:21):
energy like that combo. They should be your almost your
co captains. Young fucking they've probably been in the shadows
of good leadership for a while, so They're may be
not too you know, up for taking the reins, but
they got to take them. I think that's your that's
especially given how how well they played. That's what you need.
(26:42):
That's what monster need to hang their hat on. Now.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I think I think you're one percent right. I don't
think they would shirk it. I don't think they would
shirk you know, the responsibility, but.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Maybe still maybe holding back, maybe slightly.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, if there's more, if there's more to come, I'd
be very like because the confidence the crowd.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
He was just pulling off these chip kicks and just
pulling off stuff. You're like, what it's pissing rain up
the jersey kind of stuff. Nah, not at all. It
just he just looked in and of course when you're
getting a service like.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Jesus like this has been like that.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I love the protection of the scrum half now like that,
they're you know, the the willingness to have to get
it away because it's his speed. He just he picks
the perfect lines, even if there's Fellow's line in the way.
He's not looking for it now, he's just jumping straight
over him like a mini race horse, jumps straight over him.
Got ball gone. And I mean he's still got mad
(27:43):
in the match coming off fifty odd minutes. At fifty
odd minutes, he's still got mad at the match for
the for what he generated in the time he was on. Now,
poor old Connor Murray. I mean he's done it all,
you know what I mean, A three time lion and everything,
so you give him the benefit it out. But I
don't know if you saw out the back of her
(28:03):
out the back of a rock. He didn't know whether
he was going to pass it or go himself, and
the ball just it just flopped out of his I
was just the saddest thing to see it flopping out
of his hand.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
You're like, ah, towards the end, was it?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, And he wasn't. The thing was, he's still
an amazing player in Connor Murray, but it just his
hands weren't up to the pitch of the game, do
you know what I mean? His like and the ball
must been a fucking bar of soap, but he was
just not up to the pitch of the game at
this stage and it fell out of his hands in
the most weird, awkward waves like what you had it
(28:44):
and then it just went No, it's gone out. It
was just sickening for him. But all in all, yeah,
a great response to see from Munster. Unfortunately, Peter Romany
and Ali Jager have gone for scans and won't be
available this weekend. Hamstringer man and his shoulder, Jager and
Mike Healley looked fairly fairly well. He'd come off, did
(29:07):
something gammy to his ankle, and he was having a
great game, like nothing, nothing was bouncing off his chest,
he was he was catching every ball that came flying
down a top of him, like but so did I.
They're leaving it till last minute to make call on him.
But three, you know, I mean, Jager still doing enough,
(29:29):
you know, new enough to have on the scene. But
at the same time, you know, a lost lose a
twenty stone front.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Drawer, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
But then'm saying that Steven Archer command had an unbelievable game,
just still absolutely putting it out, you know. And they
have Leinster this weekend, Leinster Monster this weekend.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
On Saturday. Yeah, great, great can of momentum builders to
come into the Begind then.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
It will it'll be very interesting to see h coming
on or if he starts, because he was in he
was in Blue at the weekend and it was just weird.
It was just weird to see him in blue leg.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Of all the South Africans are not coming around to
him yet.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I don't if if it, if it at all helps,
I absolutely fucking roasted him for doing that to his face,
so if that helps it all, I mean I roasted
him bad, like almost as good that on top, you know,
I said, look, and even factored in the fact that
he you know, tried to kill three of his teammates
with a barbecue that time, like where they he burnt
(30:39):
everybody and he loved it. That was the thing, to
be fair, He was a great sport. He loved being
ripped asunder. So but I know, I.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Mean, he's apparently a wonderful fella, and I I'm really
like form the fact that he's the move was also
based on like his wife's professional career as well, like
that's not often comes into the conversation, and I really
like enjoyed that, and I was like, well, fucking fair play.
But I'm also very mad at him.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah of course Jesus, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Someone in your family like going for me.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, we need time apart, I can't look at you
right now. This is still gross. Yeah yeah, so yeah
they played this weekend. Big shout out to Tom Farrell
actually coming from Connacht. He had a I really I'm
not going to say. I mean, I won't say it
was my man of the match, but I wouldn't have
been upset had he been given it. But great to
(31:37):
see a fella who was played with injury but was
on Ireland's radar and absolutely laid down a marker the
other night like he is a serious baller, like he
and not in any and ultimately confident. Do you know
it wasn't just going right, I'll just I've just been
the man to shovel it on for my first start.
(31:57):
Not he was taken on everything, every fucking thing and
a bloody good player too to be right. Interesting if
they start him and Ninkville at the weekend. And also
was it I don't know what the other lad is.
A Fitzgerald is his name. He was playing Ail last year,
which is class to see the monster because they don't
have the range of the schools teams. They are dipping
(32:19):
into the Ail. They're looking at the Ail for serious players,
which is brilliant.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Did you get to watch the women the women against Canada.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You had said to you, you'd.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Warned us of Canada that they were no, you know,
it wasn't in anywhere relatable to the men's team.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, the two the people like Canada, but
Canada number two in the world. Like, but it's funny
what in Canada play there? They look this is like
no offense to Canada because they're number two in the
world and they're brilliant. And I've always have had so
much admiration for Canada that they achieved their success not
(33:06):
in the shadow of the men's game. You know, they're
just like because you know they have you know, they
didn't need to start a women's team because there was
a men's team there already. But the reason and this
dawned on me when I was in college and there
was a lot of Canadian players turning up, like from
(33:28):
doing their study abroad, and they'd come down to the
rugby team and they'd be very, very good and you'd
almost not be expecting it. But you know, I learned
through what Canadian women's rugby was like. But basically it's
a college sport that kind of counters all the men's
sports that are there, and rugby is like one of
the most popular women's ones because like ice hockey, I
(33:51):
suppose like American football that they you know, that would
be popular in Canada too, But basically rugby is like
one of the most popular like field sports for women there.
And they play so well, but their technique is terrible
or something. I don't know. They're all like their hands
where they're kicking the ball, like their pats are in
(34:13):
the air, like they just don't look like conventional rugby players,
which again is kind of admirable because they're so good.
They're just fucking hard as nails. And yeah, they played
well and it was a funny kind of a game,
like Ireland has got two yellow cards like Christ the
Dean and they still played fucking well. I just can't
(34:35):
nothing is I don't actually care that Ireland lost, not
they don't. They still don't look shock. And you know,
we were talking about obviously if away for last week,
which I feel like we will be talking about for
a long time. Every week, she'll be our new Like
I was thinking about this, you know, we have like
a d after DuPont, We're gonna have like a w
(34:56):
after Awafer as well. Yeah for sure, like this is
the change of Tays. But she oh yeah in the
scroll like on the MIC's raft, you can you can
hear Hanada, you know from the defense saying Wayfer yeah,
Wayfer Yeah. So basically they have her fucking targeted. This
(35:19):
is it, Like this is what I was saying. You know,
this is going to start for her now. She is
going to be like one of the earmarked players because
she's so fucking good and it creates a bit of
fear around Ireland because she's so good. So when she
was brilliant again, like that like characteristic pickup from the
back of the scrub she has and like she kind
of nods her head in the first few steps and
(35:40):
then just goes like.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Bit of I was just looking at it the other day,
a bit of a seawn of Brian about her, like
she was like she she loves it, do you know
what I mean? She absolutely loves its. Yeah, just as
you said, there's a giddy up right at the beginning.
It's like, oh you got all right, you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Just yes exactly, it's us. I like pray to God,
like touching one here that that's something we're going to
be watching for a fucking long time, and defenses are
going to be like, oh no, like whoever is the
open side.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
There was going to be like fuck, I think it's
up to everybody. It's up to everybody else now to
you know, to not to mold their game around a
wrong way for bud it to be almost you know,
like the French team, You go, if he's off, we're
after him, do you know what I mean? If he's
away to somebody beyond the on either shoulder, do you
(36:33):
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
And be ready. Same thing with her, and you know.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You wouldn't believe it's it's you would It's easy nearly
turned around at this stage and go, hey, if Eva
has it, I know you're our class. But if Eva
has it, get after, Just get after because something cool
is about to happen, Like, just do not let her
by herself, because she will bust. She'll bust open the door,
she will bust defenses and put him on the back foot,
(36:59):
and you better capitalize on it. Do you know that
kind of There's times yeah, sorry, because there's times I've
seen her, Like Jesus Christ, she's doing this, She's operating
in another dimension. You need, you need to almost know
what she's about to do next so that you can
be up there with her, because if she busts open
(37:20):
a door for you, be fucking in after it, like
you know what I mean, don't like she'd done all
this hard work for you and put everybody's running on
the back foot. Now is the time to kill him?
Like she's like she is. She's the heavy artillery you're
sending force like that's gonna absolutely level everything.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
But she had an unbelievable Carrie like I don't know
how many measures. And then the best thing about it
is the quality of players around her. Then it's not
just her on her own, like they're fucking like Dan O'Brien. Now,
she didn't have her best game because she made a
few kind of fun characteristic errors, but like whatever, you know,
that happens, and everyone has days like that. The way
(38:00):
she's able to sit in behind then crossfield kick bang,
no bother that came off, Yeah, ephe's Carrie. But then
having the players around her to finish it off. So
that's the exciting thing as well. You know, it's not
like you're like, oh, there was no one with her,
she's on her own like the quality of player around
(38:21):
her and like waifers wearing seven, but she's playing eight
and attack and then and then defending seven, so she's
doing like just doing so much work, like around the pitch.
That's just it's just class. And like this weekend, like
I just I don't think USA will be able to
hold Ireland's kind of excitement down now, not to USA
(38:44):
have been going well as well, but I just think
Ireland are however, the way you put it in another dimension,
they're just they're just riding a wave. And even the
lost to Canada like that includes that too. You know,
they're probably disappointed because they probably could have beaten can.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Or they could have done two other cards, Like I mean,
you're you've Jesus Christ, you put rocks in your pockets
like good by doing something like that, you're like for
there could have been so many more opportunities created if
we'd you know, a full compliment for the entire match,
And they probably look at and go not not be
you know, sad, but disappointed, going Boles girls, Next fucking week,
(39:21):
we don't make those mistakes, do you know what I mean?
Next week, we don't fucking do that again.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
They need the lessons now, because it's not good for
them to be like fucking steamrolling through everyone only having
they're only they're only at the start of their journey. Yes,
you know, this isn't a team that's been in in
going for years and now they're finally making This is
literally the beginning of the journey still, you know, or starting.
I suppose the beginning of it was that w XV
(39:49):
two but like they barely beat Spain. They could have
with another kick of the game, or could have lost
to Spain and they would still be WXV three. Now,
you know, it's very strange, you know, like how one
small result like that can literally change the trajectory of
(40:11):
a whole demographic of rugby in the country, because that's
what that's going to do for oursh girls.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
But isn't that isn't that talking about taking your opportunity,
like you know, nearly, Like it's taken twenty years for
Italy to come good in the Six Nations, do you know,
and the men's and you're kind of going down to
some years. There's talks of Georgian whereas like you said,
one kick, they get one sniff inside the door, they
(40:37):
get the stick a fingernail inside the door of WXV
one and they're like, right, we're here, we're here, and
we're not here to just you know, take part.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
We're here to take over, but to coin to coin
that billet.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But it's it's very very exciting to see it that
they've gotten they've gotten the leg in the door and
now they're like, no, no, we're we're we're going out
to beating new even if that's all right, thanks very much,
good luck.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Do you know, brilliant, Well, it is a good year
now before the World Cup and that's you know, there's
plenty of rugby to be played before then. So it
is thee past the quarter finals.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Do you know what? What's the bet? And they're going
win the that's the bet and they'll go win it.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
You can finally beat in England, that's the goal.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
They'll get to show their trophy at As everybody's leaving
some stadium somewhere and Jesus Christ, listen, clatter of the
week came around. I don't know, do you have a
ticket the day? Do you have or or is there
anybody I suppose that poor bastard from Osprey's that just
didn't see it coming like, oh, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
The quick try for the day's for conceding the quickest
try in your history.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, Lord's save as the for me, the the clatter
of the week I sent it at and it was
Jesus Christ. They look good, the emerging Ireland lads. They
just look how are they so well coached as a
team and they've only been together like a wet week.
They just look so slick. And as we're speaking, as
(42:21):
we're recording, and they just beat what did they just
play Western?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yes, did they just play because it was the force
that the beat at the weekend? Was it?
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Oh? Sorry, uh, I can't give track. I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Hold on, I shall tell you. I shall tell you
as I I had it open. Let's just see one second.
This is making for great audio.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
That aur play. You are see that as well?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Sorry for you, hone, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
I know.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Sean O. Brian was released from back and and so
was it's his name hostile weeight he's from it's the
most ulster name of all time. Who's a serious candidate,
but he was he was left go as well. No, sorry,
they just yet they just beat Cheetus as we speak
thirty three twenty four, Oh yeah, thirty three twenty four,
(43:26):
and it was And again I think that the picture
that he put up was a chap. He's got his
finger in the air and it's it's the same fella
that we have a Class of the week against Western,
the Western. It must be Western problems that they were
playing Alex Sorocco so Rocca, I should say, And anybody
goes anybody go have a look on Instagram and probably
(43:47):
Twitter as well. I think it must be Maury Kinseler
or whatever. He puts up clips all the time, but
put up a clip of this lad and it was
just he kind of took it and then ran. He
shook somebody off in a tackle because he was in
the line and then decided I'm away. What fuck? He
generated force inside five meters and it just it was
(44:11):
titled brilliantly. He just said, sends him flying like skittles.
And there's two or three lads just it was like
something out of a movie. Just bounced and went in
all directions and we're holding their heads trying to tackle
this lad. And that's what he is as a lad.
He's only youngful it like, but it's just a smash
that you know, you know, if you made it, you'd
(44:31):
be like, oh yeah, oh yeah, there's a and of
course a try comes off the back of it, you know.
But it was it was an EFO way for Esque
in in how he smashed three people and they all
went flying. It was just beautiful. But it's very easily found.
I'll actually what I do is I'll share it to
my Instagram and tag and as well. But and absolutely
(44:52):
lovely that throughout the week.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Of the week. Yeah, he's been around for a while. Actually,
Alex Rocco is good to get you know, if you're
if you when you think about really the Irish squad
is such a small place, like if you're outside of
that then like you know, if you could feel really
far away from an Irish Jersey. So it's so it's
good to have an emerging Ireland squad, even if it's
(45:18):
just for Simon us to be a gain. But anyway,
it seems to be going well for.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Him, so it's great. It's great. Like it's as you said,
it's it's for lads who may or may not be
getting a looking even with their own province, like and
Alex kendlen Is the is the captain, and I mean
he ain't starting typically when John John hadnett Is is
you know, fresh and fire but a great candidate. Seen
that and then and it's having a great tournament as well.
(45:45):
So yeah, you know, one's one injury away from maybe
getting a call up to the to the main main thing.
Like and it's gee, there it is there, It is there,
it is there.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
It is another quick point. Sorry, I'm the women's game.
Now this might seem like a small little thing, but
it's kind of released to what we're talking about in
terms of like tours and stuff. But like the are
women's squad called flew someone out to Canada to Vancouver,
like flew an extra player out to cover someone who's injured,
(46:21):
even though they probably mightn't even play, like they've got
enough players to get through a squad, but obviously wanted
an extra body in training and like giving that opportunity
to a young player, flying them out, having them join
up with the squad like that never happens, or at
least it hasn't happened before, you know, in in the
women's game. So that's just another like really like pool that's.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Very encouraging that somebody opened up our strings for such
a thing like going here, emergency open to get her
over We need her. Is she going to start? I
know who knows what she's.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Going to do.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
We just need her train and no more questions. Just
get her over here, now.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
You know, exactly like the wood in the men's game.
You know, you just have someone flown out to hold
a bag, but to be part of it because you
know they're there, they're needed and they need to hold
a bag.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
So yeah, that's absolutely.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I'm a way to find a park somewhere and to
hope that and want to Pond shows up and just
starts throwing a ball at me just just to.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
See, Yeah, I might do the same. It might be
more likely to turn up in a park.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Here, Yeah that's the thing, than than somewhere in South Debrariy.
But you know, you're not.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Fucking probably easier to get to south to Prariy than
it is Larachelle. I told you and started a course.
I have to do a coaching course here in France
and I have to go to breathe well, by God,
the trains. I spent like a whole forty eight hours
on trains just to go for this like interview to
do to start a course in France, but have to
(47:56):
do a coaching course in France, so well you know
how that goes us.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
O Lord yeah, brilliant right till next week. Mind the rocks,
Mind the
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Rocks, it's the Banana and Bears rugby Pod.
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