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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Banana and Rubbie.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hello hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello hello hello hello
hello hello. There's a there's a lovely bang of cork
of what's going on this evening?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Your your back? You're back? Are you the glamorous surrounds
of Mellow?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes? Yes, yeah, I'm back in Mellow. Yeah. Just arrived
this morning, this afternoon, after lovely nighteen Parry. I know
you're watching there. Ronald Luguar was on off the Ball
and he was basically saying that they're training on Steven's
Day at three o'clock and he's got no way of

(00:42):
getting mat because the only flights to Cork through Bovy
and like for me to get to Bove, I left
Larchelle yesterday evening on the train, spent the night in Paris,
had to make a whole fucking holiday of getting to
Bovi and it's just such a pain in the air.
So he's like, when you don't have time to be

(01:03):
going on holidays in the middle of the week, you're
kind of fucked. So so best luck to Roger. I
know he listens to the pods, so we hope you
get back for training.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Hold on, did he not call? Who called training? For
since Steven's Day, Like yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I don't know what the whole thing is there, but
uh yeah, Presumer would have been him, like but he
said something about like giving the time, giving time to family,
kind of get back to their families, like on Stephen's Day.
So I don't know what that means then for for
for him, like they didn't think it through before they

(01:40):
sit out to skate or something. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, welcome everybody to Banna Bear's Rugby podcast. I was
myself and Anna there just starting off without you, so
I hope he caught up and.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
You're all very very welcome. We have we're back back
in track.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
So you've so much like yourself and yourself and Roger
Bey And so where did you come?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Did you did? You didn't have to go? You went
to Paris?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
The oh no, Bob, is that Bovy? Is that Ryan
Air Airports? It's outside Paris right, yes, yes, it's the
cheap Ryan Air one because it takes an hour, an
hour and fifteen minutes. You don't what they're on the
ball with the shuttle bus though, I must say, but
you should get like to a certain area of Paris

(02:22):
to get a shuttle bus out there, which takes an
hour and fifteen minutes, So yeah, I did. Yeah, that's
the only way to get directly to Cork from France.
I feel like it's the only Cork France flight that
goes during the winter.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So it's not bad, like like we just go because
of Paris and it's France and it's big. You say
an hour and fifty like that's Cork the fucking port leash.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, flying the portation called it a Cork flight.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
But that's not the worst thing. The worst thing is like,
like the train depends where you're Obviously, Paris has loads
of different train stations and it depends where you're coming from.
But the larer Shell train arrives into Montparnasse and then
that's an hour from where you need to get the
bus from, oh Jeseus. So yeah, Like the reason I

(03:10):
went on the Thursday evening was because I didn't trust
any trains to get it there on time or to
not be delayed. You kind of can't, especially around Christmas,
because the trains. I had it in Cast last week.
I was getting getting carpooling, linking up with people I
couldn't get to Cast, like just on a book to train.
Everything was being canceled delayed because they're always strikes and

(03:31):
delays in France, so you can't guarantee that you'll get
where you want to one time with a train.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's pure friends like and that they just twel my
little mostache. Absolutely, no one's above it.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I do actually like that in a way I mean
to be annoying for you personally, but as a general
kind of.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Vibeing way to go. It's like, yeah, you're dead right.
Do you know what You're dead right? Call it? Call it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I've had I've had a week of all. Last weekend
was all stand up. This week was all corporates in Dublin.
But they were good fun. They were good fun. But
at the same time it's like, yeah, we're done with that.
Now we're done with that. We're back to stand up again.
So that's that's that's all out of the way and
back back to ruggers. I was doing a gig and
kill Kenny last week and I was in the green

(04:23):
room watching the match in clips, but you were at
you were at the Monster Cast match and it was like,
I loved how I tweeted you going or I messaged
you gone. The vibe I'm getting is that it's not
the greatest match. You're like unfortunately, yes.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a bit shite. So
it was a bit sad, but also like that's not
why you support a team, you know. I was still
glad that I was there. You know, you can't be
like I'm only going to go because it's definitely going
to be great, Like you you go because there's always
that chance that, like it's going to be a bit shy,
or the team doesn't turn out, or you lose. Like

(05:00):
it's so funny. Like when I came back, everyone's like, oh,
but they lost. I was like yeah, but like you
don't go to a game with the guarantee that the
team is gonna win, you know, everyone's like, oh, they lost.
I'm like, I don't mind about the fact that we lost,
Like I mind about the fact that it was kind
of a shite match and a few injuries from Munster
and like just the last minute was so disappointing. So

(05:23):
there wasn't a big and the stadium wasn't full either,
But forgive me now, Like I I this went over
my head. I don't know where I missed out this
information in years gone by. But I was inside the
Irish pub after the Cast game and someone is like
one of the frenchmen was like, that's the coach of Cast.

(05:46):
He's from Ireland.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, Jeremy Davison.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I didn't know anything about Jeremy Davidson. I was like,
who's this? So I don't I was like, well, how
are you? He's from done Gannon. I was like, I'm
so sorry that I don't.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't remember he was a Lion and everything.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I think, ye, well I actually didn't know that about
the Lions. But he now he played for Ireland and
uh well I know it now. Didn't know of him before.
He's just like went over my head.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
He's been man but go away.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Oh yeah with a great chance the pop Yeah, I
love you man from don Gellon. We're talking about the
al just he's been in frank for a long time
and everything. But it's just funny, how the how.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Did that skip by you now?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Because he's been babbling around like places like ho and
Ainya and stuff like that, like for a long time.
It could be after name two clubs, he was nowhere
near Port then obscure places you know.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he's been around for a
very long time. So I don't know how that that
missed me out, that skipped over me, but uh uh yeah.
And also the coach from the S and C coach
from Toulose is also Irish. Did you know that?

Speaker 3 (06:59):
What's his name again? It's familiar?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Alan? My god, what what's the other half of his name? See,
there's something Alan or Allan something.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Isn't it funny that like we you know, we haven't
been consulted. We're nearly half insulted by these facts when
we find him out.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Going, Oh was Irish. There's an Irish person abroad making
a living.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I do feel like there's a lot there's there's often
a lot of chat about the players that go to France.
You know that the players have gone like down to
po and breathe, and it's not always so high profile.
But I feel like if you follow Munster for example,
or follow the provinces the people who leave your province
to go to France, that's kind of well reported. But
uh yeah, sometimes some of them like slip under the radar.

(07:45):
Maybe it's covered in another province or whatever. But I
was like, oh my god, because this is what I
say about the trains obviously down in cast and I
know you have a plumber coming in now, so I
won't tell too many stories tonight, and sadly there aren't
too many stories to tell. But I was. I went
to cast on the FRI day.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Hold on, back pedal.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You didn't just go to go to cast You tweeted
first and foremost.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Your tweeted like, what's the train canceled?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
So no, I will get to that part. So I did,
so I did tweet. I got a notification that my
train from Toulouse to Castors canceled, so from Larachelle you
have to go Larachelle Bordo Toulouse cast So it was
three different trains about seven and a half hours. And yeah,

(08:33):
I tweeted. I had a few people respond to me,
kind of giving me a different advice, people who are
going in taxis and stuff. And then a friend of
mine from France who I met on the very very
first day when I went to Larachelle all those years ago,
she was like, oh, hang on, I know someone who's going.
She works for APC or she is Alan.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh my god, she's Allen as well.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
No, she's his partner, so she's she's the partner of
the Irish stad to Lose on SMC coach. So all
these very like intertwined. So she picked me up at
the airport in in uh to Lose and drove me
over to capt was so great because she's a she's English,

(09:19):
she played rugby for years. We know loads of the
same people and we'd never met ourselves, so we were
able to share the drive together and it was absolutely great.
We just you know, it was just so lovely. So
made a new friend, which was absolutely like amazing. And
then oh yeah when I was on the way, then
turning to heat up. When when I was on the way,

(09:45):
I got a message from my Airbnb fella booked in
Airbnb fifty fifty euro for the night. And I know
a lot of people would go back to Toulouse after
a match and cast, but it was too late and
I'd never say the cast. I was like close in
cast God in Airbnb. Your man from the Airbnb me
being like the heater is broken. And now when I
tell you it was fucking Baltic in France. It was
so cold, I was like, oh no, I want to

(10:09):
be frozen for the night, and then you message again
ten minutes later he was like, never mind, I've put
you in a new Airbnb, rocked up. Couldn't find the
door to the place because it was so weirdly like
not an Airbnb. It looked like a shop front. It
looked like I was breaking into a shop when I
was getting putting in the court.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Was it like when the Hobbits were outside the minds
of Maria and they couldn't work out how to get
through the rock and it was like, Jesus Christ, They're
sitting there for ages and then you the words came
to you? Or was it completely a commercial entry? Had
you to wind up one of those steel gates first?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, Although I've never seen Lord of the Rings, Jesus,
I feel like what you described there was probably more
like what I have to go through more Lord of
the Rings. We've no time to get into that tonight,
and I won't watch it over Christmas. I won't probably
won't watch for another few years if I ever get
the chance. Anyway, the shop front, breaking into the shop going,

(11:08):
it's just like really boogie like, almost like a couple's retreat,
like by the behind these really dark curtains, like people
who follow me an instagramle have seen my story. But
there was like a double shower, like two showers next
to each other. You wrote down, there's the bed and
then like there's a hot top, two gowns what do
they call like dressing gowns, and a fucking mustache table.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I was like, it does not sound this does not
sound great. I mean it sounds is great, but you know.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I was literally like, is this fucking Jeffrey Epstein's French getaway?
Like I was like, this kidding massive Jeffrey Epstein vibes
And I was like, my god, am I going to
be murdered tonight? Now? Is that what's gonna happen? But
I wasn't. It was very safe, but I did anyway
you do as you headed up. The was so lovely,

(12:01):
cast is so cool. Just a really French town, That's
all I can say. And I know we talk about
this all the time, but the only word to describe
something as French. So it was just this beautiful, like.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I love I love French villages and I love French towns.
I think they're they're architecturally and actually visually they're one
of the most enjoyable kind of they're like they're Disney.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
They are Disney like there's there's.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Just wiggly buildings, you know, red red slate roofs like
they just have you know, oak timber. I love everything
about French towns and the fact that that as soon
as I look at them, I think of delicious cheese
and that ham you were eating last week with the
giant fark. I described that to my wife Natasha, and

(12:47):
she she honestly got she was driving up the road,
she had to pull over.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
She was just.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Because I said, it's there's nothing to the story but
the story. The visuals of the story are just the
camera panning with no dialogue and just you've been found
with the giant spoon and you're not going m while
trying to fit in with all these blokes, and they
all are discussed of it because you're using there the
communal far in the community.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Before I know, yeah, I actually listened back to it.
I have to apologize to the listeners by the way
I pause on my in my cast story here because
I had to listen back to that story because I
laughed so much afterwards as well like listening back to
it as well. The amount of times and you have
said this to me before, and you're absolutely right. The

(13:34):
amount of times i'd say the word fuck.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, they you see, and I wouldn't be curtailing yet,
but they do lose their impact, do you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
So a good well placed EFFI is absolutely lovely.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
You know, I'm not using them for impact. They're just
I just can't get over how normally they are in
my vocabulary. But it's weird because I teach. I remember
thinking this before that I was my my language was bad.
But whenever I teach in a class, I've never used
a bad word in the class. Ever, then when I
go to normal conversation, it just comes out of me
like like like verbal verbal diarrhea bomb. Sorry, there's so

(14:14):
I'm a try and stop. So I apologize to the
listeners if I part your ears with all, because I
was like, what, what's going on? Is this actually how
I talk? I'm so embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
To be fair, you're just irish. That's all we do.
I used to do.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I used to do a whole bit about this, like
and I'm kind of factoring in a new bit into
this is for the new show where we do just
swear and I swear too much as well, Like I
know I do, but it's but by too much.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I don't care. What are people offended?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I don't care, But it's the losing of their impact
for when you want a decent slapper of a fuck
do you know what I mean, rather than using it
to describe like eating with a fark?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
You know, yes, you know, I'll I'll consider. Yes, we
must get it. Do you know, like one of those
links snickers and like just we click. We have a
few of them and click for every time we use
f bomb and then every time we mention mention on

(15:15):
and Jan DuPont.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
We didn't even I mean, that's that was art. That
was an art nouveau way of even coming out at DuPont.
Like you were talking about not describing him by describing him.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, I was just only just dying to get him
in because there weren't many other ways to talk about
him this week. But there you go. What was I
saying about cast We'll just get to the end of
the story because there's not much to say really. That
went to the match was really cool because I was there,
Like I was saying last time in two thousand and six,

(15:48):
and the atmosphere obviously is a little bit bigger for
top fourteen clubs, like they don't care as much about
European Cup as much as we or as much as
a club like Lowerchelle or to Lose does because they
kind of have a chance of winning it. Bordeo as
well apparently are like or like licking their lips to
win it this year as well. But yeah, yeah, it

(16:13):
was just it was, it was okay, It was okay.
But chatted to some lovely fellas in the pub, like
these four lads from from Cork, two Donalds and two others.
Shout out to them because I said I'd give them
a shot on the podcast. Lovely fellas. We had great

(16:33):
chats and we had a great time in the pub beforehand,
and then uh might make Murphy from you elbows. And
then I met two lovely fellas as well who are
also going to listen to the podcast. Can't remember their names,
but there they live in Valentia and they're from Cork
and they.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Had great val Spain or Valentia in Spain.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah yeah, and you know, I just I've met some lovely,
lovely people. But I did I remember the message I
sent you are fats in the Heineken Cup for away
teams worse than any other farts in rugby.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I wondered about that, and I didn't reply to you
on it because I went away for a good old
think about it, because there's a lot involved there, Like
I mean, like, are you saying like the French in
general when you land over or is it people traveling
you're going? Let's why are yours are foul over here?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I think it's people? This actually sounds like the people
that I'm I'm I'm that I just read.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Literally, yeah it does.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Actually, I mean we haven't even gone to a new
paragraph here, You've just the pub.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, but it was the pub, the pub that we
were in the art cub because because I think you
so you're on a plane. Yeah, so we have to travel,
so I usually upsets people's stomach. You're eating different food,
and then the pints aund great. This is why you
thought of it? Sorry, is because I the reason I
made friends of those fellows, as I asked them, were
the pints? All right? I feel like that's how like,

(18:06):
that's how I started talking to them, and I feel
like that's maybe what set off. Okay, I think in
this pub was unbelievable, Like I was, like, I wonder
because it's just because it's a quick weekend away, the
pints start rolling out kind of and they wouldn't be
getting much flow up until that point. And then you're
eating like you know, you're not eating like the stuff

(18:28):
your wife cooks at home.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
You're eating like like, was it everywhere you went in
the pub or do you think it was just one
absolute troll just dropping bombs right and center.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, it was quite frequent, and it was also up
in the little pub before you go into the main stadium,
which was more aerated as well. So I don't know,
I don't know. It will be interesting. Do we reckon
are the worst rugby farts?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah? I would imagine it's all day long.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's going to be French because you're dealing with in
very rich foods that, as you said, like they you
wouldn't be used to get at home, Like you're getting
strong and multi style.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Jeesus.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Your your set off is probably a bit on the
early side, so you're probably a big out dirty frying
in the airport before you go, and possibly even a
pint in there, and as you said, like you get
in the airplane, you're not eating great stuff on that,
like you know what I mean? You get over excitement
and then as you said, then you pour you know,

(19:42):
substandard pints down on top of that, and and the
top of like a top of that.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
There's a do you know what happens in France? Days?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
In France kind of thing like down your local lads
aren't going to be banging off you know, Napan like that,
but when they're abroad, they're like, I don't care, nobody
knows me here. Liberty, liberty, and I'm just going to
crop dust everybody behind me.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I So what so be it?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Do you know what it is? Liberty, egality, fraternity, That's
what it is.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
You need to Okay, I don't know how to spell
any of that, but you know what I'm going to
do now, you know, I'm always listening for the Yeah,
you have to send that to me in Yeah, yeah,
you have to send that to me.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
But we would be interested to hear from the listeners
like what one or what something like a World Cup
where you're there for a longer period of time produce
worse results.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I don't I wonder like, yeah, I do you know
what I'd like to discuss possibly the results of this
rather than actually divulging into it too, because I could
spend if you wanted to, Like I, I have a
five year old boy, so needless to say, I I
could write a thesis on this fat You know this subject,

(20:58):
but from personal experience, you go abroad. The worst one
I ever smelled in my entire life, and given that
I've worked in construction, I've worked in all sorts of
very male, rough environments, played rugby for years, a lot
of gooey humans, I worked with the worst war crime

(21:22):
I have ever come across that, And I'm not even
fully sure was I was, I was me, I'm not
At that point I started loucinating because it was in
a bar called Delirium, which is a great name for
a bar, but people will know Delirium by in Brussels.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yes, I know the one.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Like there was people it was. It was like that
scene from Anchorman. You have seen Anchorman, surely, yes, yes,
when when sex Panther made an appearance where six percent
of the time it works every time and people were
running around holding their eyes like it smells like bigfoot
stick like that was literally a moment inside that there
was people crying, there was you know, there's people look.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
For the passport, just go straight home.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Windows.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
It was like I've worked, I worked in farms from
pig to cattle, and I've never I've never encountered anything
like this like it was. And again it was in
abroad and there was a lot of people from everywhere
in the world there. So yeah, listen, please tell us
where you know, you can't as interested here what it's
like when you go down to South Africa, what kind

(22:28):
of what kind of pungency arrives there given all their
their meat, meat selections and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
But great subject.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Great, Yeah, I love if anybody for the first time,
like like your new mates have joined thedn't gone.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, you know what a good rugby podcast would be
great to get.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I didn't warn them. I didn't warn them. I said, look,
you know, the rugby is kind of a side topic,
like but well it's actually not. It's the kind of
the rugby on the field is the side topic. I
also met. I also met Dan, the photographer from Info,
who hadn't seen in years inside the pitch. That was lovely.

(23:11):
He's the only other person I met a part from
McMurphy from Bose Who's barriis dead?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yes, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
But I feel like they all went back to Brennan's
and to lose afterwards, Like that's for most of the
Monster credit.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I suppose an opportunity to go to Trevor Brennan's pub.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
You Actually, it's been on my list for flipping years
and I still haven't been. But it's he's moved the pub.
It's outside of the town a little bit now.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
So I loved the notion that he picked up a
pub and walked out of the town with it.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Like, oh, oh, absolutely did he absolutely did.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah and still one of my favorite clips is a
Brennan clip and it was his son from the under twenties.
Have you seen that clip during the.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Rounds of you Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Anyways, like, so, how are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Absolutely they blow the deloyded Yes, and I am a
a what.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I love it?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
We may get into a bit of the rugby anyway
before this, let fellow lens on with his wrenches and
everything else. So obviously Monster Jesus Christ. So by all accounts,
I mean, look, Monster went lost. It wasn't a great game,
but they more importantly, they lost probably our standout consistent
player for and I'd say he was knocking on the
door of an Ireland start to with Craig Casey because

(24:32):
he never he's never like he's he never comes below
an eight, like he's just a rocket, and he blew
his knee out, so very disappointing.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Very also which I found very interesting, the whole discussion
around and I think we spoke about it last week
the w w E Slam and Craig Casey and then
you know a lot of people, including like some of
the French girls that I was, We're like, oh, he
felt the side, it's just a yellow la la going on,

(25:04):
and like there was a lot of the commentary that
had been happening around like oh, but he was grand
so it should be a yellow. Do you know? He
was grand so it should be a yellow. So we're
obviously talking about the week before, but it was last
week then the Craig Casey said that his grandfather died
on the rugby hedge at forty years old while playing

(25:25):
a Charlitie Rugg match. So he was basically saying like, look,
you know, everyone, there's all this conversation about it. But
at the end of the day, like you have, like
you have to be safe, you have to be safe
on the rug pitch. So I thought it was a
really good post and really meaningful. And he's absolutely right,
you know, people like, oh, but he was grand, Yeah,
but what if he isn't? What if he's not grand?

(25:46):
Like and then you know, and he got a really
bad injury, Like you're yeah, you're right to get straight
into that point because that is just the biggest, the
biggest last from monster.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
And by the way, he came down sideways only cause
Peter Harmandy came in and put a shot in on
your man and drove the whole situation sideways. Yeah, and
obviously he's super strong and he turned himself up as
well a bit. But yeah, just very so disappointed. But
do you know what, like he's posts like the guys
like Craig Casey for president, Like he's just the positivity

(26:20):
out of like tombs up from the hospital bed job
done right, Time to get to work on fixing this
leg and come back stronger.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
You're like Jesus.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Christ, you know, so down in cast, Like I try
not to be like, oh, I got a vibe, you know,
you know when the team kind of like comes onto
the pitch like a lot of stroll nots sarily that
strolling is not the right word. She has a lot
of walking. And the big energy always comes from Craig Casey,
Like he just always has it, and it's hard to

(26:50):
be that player as well when people are I don't
know if the team kind of relies on him to
drive them it's always on his shoulders. But he just
always is such an amazing ball of energy. And like
there was a lot of like when when the match
was kicking off, like it didn't feel like it has
felt before, like down in cast, like big energy. Big

(27:10):
game was kind of a few players just walking out
onto the pitch and I was like, oh God, what
kind of a night are we in for here? But
I know that doesn't always mean anything, but it is.
It is something. But to kind of remark, but you'd
never get it from Casey. He's just he's just so consistent.
You're writing, his positivity is energy. He's such a gem
for us.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Like he is That's exactly what he is.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
And it's a word that's thrown away too often.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
You know, it's a gem.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
He really is, Like he is the nucleus in my
opinion of any positivity in speed, you know what I mean.
And you speak to the guy like I mean, I
roasted him down to his shoelaces and he.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Fucking loved every bit of it. He thought like that
stuff was way below the belt.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Like but he now, in fairness, they all took but
like he was like yeah, fuck yeah, fuck yeah, let's
do a fucking let's let's record this and put it
out as a podcast.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Okay, yeah, you'd get shipped done. You would get shipped done.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
I like you, I like your attitude class, but.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
You know what opportunity because the last time Paddy Patterson
got an opportunity like this, he came out like a
motherfucking dynamo. So we're recording this literally an hour and
a half before kickoff tonight in the Ulster match.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Hoping not eight in our words, but yeah, yeah it
is exciting and cut of their backs there against the
fucking wall now, like.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah they are because they've got Northampton and Saracens coming
down the line after Christmas. So, by Jesus Christ, like
you know, you need to start get getting the roll
of games and Ulster showed last week against the was
it Bristol or Bordeaux?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
I should say it was Leincer.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
They showed the first half sixty minutes of rugby of
Dacent rugby and then they yeah, then they filled an
appy up for whatever reason. I don't know what happened there,
but speaking of interesting things, and people couldn't put their
finger on it. The last three seasons why Munster Marexi
gets so many injuries. Very interestingly, their senc staff have

(29:16):
been switched out still swim since very very recently, like
literally in the last couple of weeks they've gone, Okay,
something's up here. You're gonna have to head on. You're
driving these lads too hard and we're getting in some
new people.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Thank you good look I didn't hear that.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, but I mean something was wrong, like it's the experiment,
and experiment is three attempts at I think in the
third season going you have a list of twenty maybe
twenty odd people who are injured. Jesus Christ, like you
know picking up soft tissue. Now, I know Craig Cases.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Was a bizarre one.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
His leg got just got stuck in the mud, and
that that has happened everybody where.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
You'll you'll twist something.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
On the on the leg, but yeah, the rest and
staff is gone. So yeah, I didn't had not heard that.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, and Jackie Abrahams as well, another huge loss.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Huge loss because he was rightly coming into form, like
he was rightly starting to find his feet. But then
you know, yeah, I feel bad for him. But Mike Hayley,
if he can take the opportunity, he's a big, strong bastard,
like you know what I mean, he and he can
cut this cut a sizing run. But I think the
the big problem from Munster, and I suppose you see

(30:39):
it is depth is that when you just have so many,
you do need debt. And that's that's the thing, like
when and you can say it all you want to go,
they need more, But the problem is their debt is
you know, on hospital beds, on their sofa with a
compression yokes on and stuff. They're busted. They're just busted.
They're all their their their backups are all busted. So

(30:59):
he an interesting one I heard earlier in the week
and I didn't know. I didn't hear anything about and
it was just skipping onto the quickly Leinster who barely
got by Bristol. Did you know that in Champions Cup games?
I don't know how the stipulation came around that Orgie
Snyman can't start your European Cup games.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Did you hear that? Yeah? So this apparently Colin wouldn't
be drawn on.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
It was like, well, you know, that's a private issue.
It was like what when they asked him about it?
Is it true that he's not part of the contract
from him going from Munster to Leinster was that he's
not allowed to start in investing I should say because
it's not a European because there's a load of South
African teams and investi Champions Coup that he's not allowed
to start. You're investing Champions Cup games. But it's okay,

(31:53):
Jordi Barrett can and so can Slimaney if they need him.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Why who the fuck made this? Who said this? Are
a few the ones who moved him from well A
facilitated the moves that they come from the r A
few who's coming.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
From they won't budge because Rory watch McCall it.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
O'Connor asked at the press conference after last week's match,
and Leo Cullen immediately turned into like, you know, a
conquer with Michelle and covered in spikes. He was like, yeah,
well that's actually a private matter and you're not allowed
to speak. I can't be speaking of that got real
conspiracy theory shit.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like so what it is what it sounds like then
is totally an admittance of like this shouldn't have happened
at all.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
All, one hundred and ten percent. One hundred and ten percent,
Like do you know.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
What I mean? It's a bit like gardening leave.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, yeah, gardening leave.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
So I don't it's a very.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So it's it's basically saying like because because all the
talk was like, yeah, he's perfectly entitled to and leinster.
But but if there's a condition, it means that he.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Knew it was wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah that's what it sounds like.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that's what you would do.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
You would be an admission of guilt if you were
making stipulations like that. Look, he had to move because
and unfortunately, I mean in a dark humored way. You know,
John Klein hasn't been hasn't heard a featured at all
since he was the sticking the one they stuck with,

(33:29):
and Snyman is absolutely fucking flying up, fucking irony of.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
It christ above. But yeah, there's apparently Barret's.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
But Bart's been like he's do you know what, you
can only take your take your hat off, Like he
hasn't he hasn't had time, he hasn't had this whole
thing to find where he fits in with the team.
This guy's out there, he's do you know what I mean,
he's such a winner, Like he's out there looking cool
as cucumber, like.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
He's played from for ten years.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
He's scoring tries left right in the center, looking cool
as like it was actually did you I don't know,
just the extended highlights of their match last week, and
he caught a ball like we're calling the mark, but
it was like he was operating in a different time,
Like he looked like he's like nothing was rouffling him,
and it was, you know, an oncoming player like running

(34:16):
a full belt, jumping in the year to go for
the ball as well, But it was just in his
mind's eye, it was never happening.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
It was just one of those moments you're like, oh,
that's why he's that's why, Yeah, we're Blaird of ear stuff.
Yeah I get it. Didn't look and he just faced
in anyway.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
He was like yeah, but and by all accounts like
I didn't I was only listening to a radio show
by all accounts, like if he will, he won't accept
heads going down around him, like he's like I want
to fuck do you know? Like he's what are you
doing fucking putting your hands on your hips? Get back
in the game, like just pure all black standard, do
you know nothing?

Speaker 3 (34:49):
You left nothing off?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Like it's something actually probably regardless of his playing abilities,
because we all agree that like Leinster didn't need him
as a player. But actually maybe that was the kind
of that's that's the spark that they needed that they've
been missing in terms of leadership mentality, you know, a

(35:14):
way to like basically what you've just said, like you know,
don't you fucking there put their head down, do you know,
beigere because if they have nothing to show for the
last few seasons and there's something missing, so maybe this
is like obviously, now what it seems is that that's
why they've brought him in because they didn't need him
as a player.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
True, that's a very very well made point. Maybe yeah,
that's what he is, Like what Rocky Elson did from
a couple of years ago. You know, it was like,
all right, yeah, okay, you bring a game. He's what
is overused the phrase, but he is a game changer
for one reason or another. It's he's got the secret sauce.
Very very interesting, very interesting. I think I can hear

(35:55):
a then coming up the driveway as we speak. Yes,
so we got I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
The plumber.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
That's the plumber? About the facts insight into that?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Do you know what?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I'd love it, But there's so little rugby chat you
can have, and I'm actually into a right Rugby mood
now at the minute. I could talk for another two
hours on this, uh tip of the cap to of
course conduct who nobody's keeping an eye on. But they're
in the gym the what's their one called the Challenge Cup.
They're two from two yep so class and Jack Crowley

(36:30):
is starting this. They were saying, he's he's due always
due arrest. He's due arrest. He has to have a rest,
That's what what was saying. Ian was saying. Ian Costlo
was saying about him, but he ain't getting one, and
I bet he's not getting one next weekend either.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Against Leinster.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Just gotta keep keep digging, keep going, keeping right. It's
only like t arrest isn't always as long as the
right thing to do. Sometimes you just need to like
power through and like you get a great feeling from that.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Absolutely, Yeah, there's not more so you know, not being
happy with your game and going right, going away for
the weekend now and relax, put.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Me in coach before we go. Who would be your choice?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
And this has kind of come up in the last week,
so Felix Jones has been mentioned, but also Stuart Lancaster.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I saw that he's left her. He's he's organizing his
exist from wrestling.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Fucking get crestling, like learns that he doesn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Why do they keep hiring like non Just hire French
people at least then at least then when it comes
to like finding something to blame it on, at least
you can't blame it on the fact that they're far. Yeah,
that's a that's a big thing. So just hire French
people and see how you go for a while. You go, yeah, yeah,
I do reckon. I do don't want to see Phelix

(37:53):
Jones and the head coach roll yet.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
I'm the same way. I'd love the same part of
the staff.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Though, but as an assistant to Cosey, Yeah yeah, I'd
prefer to see so you know how unforgiving it can be.
And there's a lot of work to be done at Monster,
so any results aren't going to come quick from Monster anyway.
Deal So about Lancaster, you know, he can take a
bit of heat for a while, whereas I feel like

(38:20):
Felix Jones needs to still he's, you know, as much
as he's achieved, he's still in his infancy as a coach.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
It all came very very fast, do you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, so yeah, but we'll see how come out after
the after the match and people be like, oh my god,
what's going on or what the talking about? So yeah,
but welcome to the pod, new listeners and all my
new friends and casters. They're listening.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
And hits a hit subscribe if you've only just tune
found it, hit subscribe, hit the belt as well, so
lands into your your old device, whatever platform you are
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showed you, you can leave comments now on Spotify. So
if that's the handiest place to leave them, leave them
I'll give it a look every week, but we want
to know, very importantly, aside from all your rugby views,

(39:12):
which we're happy to get on on board, the fart situation,
where is the worst place.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
You feel.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Noxious aus gases have have have infected your nostrils? Where
have you yourself perhaps drop some of the worst, specifically
rugby farts.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
We don't want to know that time you went to
you Buy like you know what I mean. We want
rugby farts.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I don't want to hear where were the worst rugby
farts that you've encountered. Listen, this has been tremendous. I
gotta go talk to this guy, and I'm probably going
to witness a big hairy bear arse hanging out from
underneath my sink for the next forty five minutes or so.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Enjoy, Enjoy your evening and mellow.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I'm sure I talked to in the next few days
and we'll try and link up and do something live tremendous, right,
Always mind

Speaker 1 (40:06):
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