June 2, 2025 • 40 mins
On Episode #3 Of our short format show Blitzkrieg Banzai Ox and Booboo ponder what types of vehicles are best in SHTF.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, Okay, here we are. It's but let's creek number three. Yes,
this is where we take one topic. We condense it
down to about thirty minutes. It's not the long two
hour three hour format. This is hard and fast the
way that boo is. Wow. Ouch, I had to do that. Okay,
(00:25):
hard and fast?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I am hard right now?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
The two pump jump, right, we know that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Okay fast.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Actually, we've got today.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Let's creed would.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Let's creak number three. We're gonna talk about vehicles and
vehicle ticking postship hit the fan. So now, realistically, what
do you want to be driving when she hits the fan?
A prius? No, No, of course not no.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, I was good.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I kind of would No, I'm just no.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
How about an in one Abrams tank, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It depends on if it's a pre nineteen ninety because.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They have no they have multi fuel, they.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Have the multi field, they have the all the modules
for just about anything on them.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, I forgot about the multi fuel. That was really
good point. I didn't even think about that one.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now I can't because a lot of people don't don't
realize that a lot of military vehicles prior to nineteen
eighty five actually ran on multi fuel motors. They could
run on anything combustible, literally folksine or diazel kerosene, fry oil,
fry oil. A lot of people don't know the transformers
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that you see on the road on the power poles.
That oil will run. Now, granted it won't be efficient,
but it runs.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's like I do the transformers.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, it's like, who who cares if you're not getting
ten miles to the gallon, you're only getting five, But
at least you're getting something.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, you're moving, You're moving.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, they are able to. So that's why you see
so many preppers buying old deuce in the half and
five tons.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
So just our luck. We have a Ford Senior Master
Technician with us.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, we do, also a.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Certified master what do Go ahead and please get your
credentials because I can't. I'll get them all wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've been with it for since my daughter eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Off and on credentials.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So Master AC, no Senior Master AC certified, Ford Master,
Senior Master's Fight certified.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You said, damn sure, got that wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I also got a Honda and super Master certified because
as I've raced Honda. I owned subrews, so I wanted
to figure out superus like ins and out, so I
make them, uh take them to the max? So I did.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
By the way, folks, his subie is freaking rad as.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
How about the only two vehicles that really matter when
it comes to post ship hit the fan?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Which toyotas should hit the fan? And chev whoa, I'm
telling you this car will still run after the fact,
Like I've done everything I can with the E M
P module protectors and all that good stuff. I put
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bags over the PC.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
M Oh boy, is gonna have the fastest car after
the freaking.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I don't know if I still had my formula, that's
the way I am, like, Yeah, if I still had
the formula though that thing was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It will.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But this could be the newest and the best, like
to get us somewhere, Like it's not gonna fair everybody,
but yes, if we have the mount a forty cow
or fifty cow on top, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
We can cut the roof off.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's already been cut off once, so.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
But realistic, Okay, let's think what is going to be
the biggest need ship of the fan, right, you're gonna
need something with utility, so.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's oil drive.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, right, so either all wheel drive or four wheel drive.
Now four wheel drive for a lot of people don't
know there is a difference between oil drive and four
You know, foil drive is more hardcore.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, if you've ever driven in the snow or the sand, right,
you would know exactly what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
If you have locking differentials or not as well, because
even a two wheel drive, if you have rear locking,
that can get you out of ninety percent of the stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, but don't go in there with like a the
strict tires you need like oh no, of course, the
dators or write some kind of all train tire to
do that.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But you've got to figure okay, post it it the fan.
You're gonna need a car like a Honda or super
even the like the formula I had the transam like
back in the day. Is okay, but.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But it only seats for maybe or two people with
a little bit of gear. Realistically, trucks or vans.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
We'll pick off the trunk and we'll send the trunk.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well that's that that is a possibility as well. But
trucks or vans. Yeah, you know, be it either a
pickup truck or like the old High Lucks. I mean,
come on, yeah, I mean, granted I'm one hundre percent American,
but you cannot deny the Toyota High Lucks.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
We have a fore Runner, and that thing is amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yes it is. But you know, like when you're talking
about the possibility of needing to tow or to pull
yourself out of like situations, that's where trucks do tend
to be better than stands and cars. Now, if you're
post shit it, the fan is more like, oh my god,
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my brain just shut down. That TV show Twisted Metal. Okay,
I big fan of the game. I played it on
PlayStation one for years. The TV show came out, loved it,
you know, good adaptation of the thing. But you see,
that vehicle is specifically built for a certain things. There
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are still roads for the most part, and it's to
get between cities, to transport X, Y and z, you know,
small things whatever. But when we're talking about true shit,
it fin not TV stuff. You're probably gonna need stuff
that can deal with mud, off road, snow, sand, rubble.
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You maybe having to crawl over part of a brick
wall that fell over, you know, the into the road
things like that. So that's where even though things like
the Subaru, which are awesome, you know, and certain other.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Things I have to put the highest level on.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You're gonna need stuff with some ground clearance to like
get you over or even through water. Not necessarily deep water, yeah,
but you know stuff that can actually you know, get
through some stuff. Now, let's go with fuels. Okay. Gasoline
is the most plentiful right now, yes, but it also
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goes bad the fastest. That's why you have to have
a fuel stabilizer. Some of the best ones out there
can keep your fuel stable for a year, year and
a half tops. You know, Diesel lasts slugger at as.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Long as long as it's stabilized and it's kept in
an air tight can, because if not, diesel will actually
algefy yeah algify right word, but diesel will algebil whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's why alcohol fuel vehicles tend to work better because
you can make alcohol and it is harder to It's beautiful,
right it is, And it is harder to convert a
diesel to alcohol than it is a gasoline motor correct
you know. So, I mean, again, there's so many variables now.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But what if you took a gas engine and just
made a gasifier for wood fuel for wood fuel, right,
and then you can run any gas engine prior to
like nineteen seventy nine. It's not so it's not steam,
it is, but it's combustible though, it's but it's creating
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a combustible gas off of the of the fuel.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
As long as you up in Hawthorne, Florida. He has
a seventy nine Ford uh cator like pickup truck and wow,
I thought it was bullshit when I first saw it.
But yeah, and you can run it out actually if
you watch the Walking Dead spin off, uh Darryl. Yeah,
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but but no, in France they actually have some of
their vehicles running on wood gasifying, you know, and it
does work. So I mean, these are things that you
can experiment with, you know, that are not practical at
this point in time. But it's the fan. There's no
more fuel that is something that you could do. Alcohol
fuel if you are able to grow let's say, sugarcane
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like in the South, like we can, you can make
your own alcohol fuel. And it's not and I mean
actually the old firebird I used to have used to
run on avgas, you know, I mean it was yeah,
it was. It was bad. What was that?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So back in the day, whenever I was building mud
trucks and stuff, right, we would take the motors, would
hop them up, you know, get as much power out
of them as we could.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
When you're running twelve thirteen to one compression.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
But and we would run avgas.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, AGAs.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I'm gonna tell you right now, there is nothing in
this world that smells better. The smell alone is phenomenal.
It's like, bro, why did you spend five dollars a
gallon of gas? Smells good?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, And when you're pumping out one hundred and twelve octaners.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, I think the stub we used to run was
one hundred and nine. I want to say, yeah, it
was like one hundred eight hundred ninecto.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, it would bounce.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
One hundred eight is smelt.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Where I used to get it from for my bird
is since I lived in Miami back then, right at
the edge of the Everglades, you had a gas station
that where all the airboats were photers for sure, and
they ran on avgas because their engines were usually airplane
aviation engines, right exactly. So I'd go there and I'd
fill up with AV gas. And it was even nineteen
(11:35):
eighty seven. To give you folks an idea.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He's about nineteen forty three.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Nineteen eighty seven, regular gas was running eighty seven cents
a gallon. Super unlettered was running a dollar a gallon.
The avgas was running was running a dollar eighty eight
a gallon, almost twice what Super unlettered was nineteen eighty seven.
So I mean now, yeah, av gas.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Now is like yeah, like I said, I have gas. Now,
the last time I bought any it was by the
fifty five gallon drum, right it was, And given this
has been so this was years ago. It was four
hundred dollars right for fifty five gallons. So now, dude, hell,
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it's probably freaking twelve dollars a gallon.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, it's probably crazy. Now, what have gas for gas?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah? Back when I used to buy about the fifty
five gallon drum, I could get it for just a
hair under eight dollars a gallon.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I was telling you, dude, I nineteen eighty seven
a dollar eighty eighty gallon.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
No, it's like ten dollars or fifteen dollars an hour gallon.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Wow, it's crazy. So you're you're gonna want something that's
reliable though, right, something that you can fix yourself. You
don't need anything with a bunch of computer components. A
good and peak could fry this stuff or if the
stuff breaks. That was the beauty of the shade tree
mechanic back in the day. You know where you could
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fix damn near anything on your vehicle yourself with duct tape,
paper clip and I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
For sure, yeah, a hose clamper too, and a screwdriver
it We're good.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Your paper clip was your dinostator.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, like are you getting sparked?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yep, sure, Like you could plug it into like the
OBD port and it would flash like so many times.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah he's talking about I'm talking before there was any
such things.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Even with that, it was like it was still the
paper clip. Yeah, the two prongs. It would have flash
as many times it was, and then you would like one, two, three,
four five, and it would stop one two three, yeah,
one two you know what flashing on the dash right right,
they'll tell you they got to misfire on like one
or two or three whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It was exactly exactly, yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But what is what is currently what would be the
most reliable engine?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, correctly.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
So now let's go back, let's say twenty years to
a more simple time. Are we talking gas, We're talking diesel.
The diesel fuel is going to last longer.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Either one will last longer. It depends on actually, like
the modules. What's the EB going to take out? Yeah, yeah,
it's gonna take out your battery. It's going to take
out your PCM maybe when it was there, So.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That we would we be better off going back, Let's
say to like thirty years and go to like the
early to mid nineties.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So I'd say mid eighties on back.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I mean, points in the contacts are pretty cheap, right
if you could find them.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But you can always, I mean, because like back in
the day, we'd sand him down, you know, take the
little every Yeah, take.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
A little file, scrape back off. It's good.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But for me, I would put them all like I
would buy new parts and put them in a bag
and keep them in the vehicle so that way when
something happens, you get it with you right, change them out,
and you're back on the road. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But give to take if the ship truly it's the fan.
The biggest thing is going to be how to power
the vehicle. Right, you can have the like you'd have
a stock pop all the parts you need, but if
you don't have the fuel to run the vehicle.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I want a nineteen eighty six. I want a nineteen
eighty six six point nine liters International in a frigging
Ford Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
For nine forward.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, I'm talking about something that like parts are still available.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You gotta crank that ship old You're going to get somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
We can make the parts ourselves instead of cranking. I mean,
come on the old uh the old manuals, like you
could roll start them anywhay, Yeah, you know, so you
don't have to crank. You can just push, push whatever
you got, right, So.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I think this is where we need to determine, like
what's your priority.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well, like I was saying at the beginning, is it's
gonna be most likely utility because your vehicle is gonna
most likely be used to carry people, cargo, or towing things.
So that's where a senate like the super I love
the super Rus, you know, but I understand, but.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Realistically I am serious I got on video I have
to show you.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
But but realistically it can only hold so much cargo
it can, right, you know. So and so we're talking,
uh like pickup truck SGV, like a suburban or a
tahoe or a blazer, you know, vans right, No, No,
it's important to get you know, it's SUVs will do
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it SUVs in general. So I mean, be it the suburban,
the excursion.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
How about this a full sized vehicle.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Full sized truck frame, not you, the body, full size
truck frame.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Un body, I can't really the forerunner I can't put down.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Also because a Humby is technically a unibody Humby. Yeah, yeah,
it is technically a unibody vehicle. It is while it
does have while it hurts and no, not you, but
while it does have a frame, the way that it's built,
a military Humby is technically a unibody.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Vehicle because it's the.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
How the frame is built in to the body is right.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Where is the suspension.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But that's where we go to again, the multi fuel vehicles.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So now you can get a freaking hum V like
pre nineteen eighty five, Yeah, buy one.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, but even those.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
One hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
When I first, no, hell no, we're playing it brote
eighty five hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, still close, I mean close up. Until about ten
years ago, you could find a deuce and a half
multi fuel for literally ten k.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Or if you just know your local fire station, house bomb.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, well choice equipment. In fact, you still can b
o y Ce equipment right. Yeah, they're out of Michigan
or Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Minnesota, I think.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
But that is back when I used to build two
and a half. Then trucks, mud trucks. That was your
go to for all your parts, like you needed boots
for the actual outers. That was it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Because now some preppers talking about, well, if you're gonna
have a vehicle posted to defend, it's gotta be a
great man vehicle. So no one, I'm sorry, I understand
their logic because because they don't want to be seen
as a target because oh, look at this awesome vehicle.
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I completely understand.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But if you did your job right and you have
a tribe, that ship is no longer relevant.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You're in a convoy.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But yeah, so you need offered capability because sh it's
the fan. There's roads are gonna be blocked by various things. Trees, down,
so you may need a winch to pull things away.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know. The two and a half times come with
a hydraulic winch, and.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
They are high water vehicles, you know, So if there's
a road that is flooded, you know, I mean, I'm
not talking ten feet deep, but if it's a good.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Three four five, if properly equipped, if properly equipped, well
we've seen the videos of hummers or yeah, snorkels and
exhaust pipe.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Stick it up, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, exhaust pipe is not so much, but it's not
sucking as long as.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You don't stall. Once you stall, then water gets in exactly,
So that's why.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But install, don't be stupid.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You know, it happens. It happens, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Guess if you're in the panic, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So, but still we're talking realistically, pre eighty truck or
suv correct, Okay, preferably here's the whole sketchy part. Gas
or diesel. Diesel motors are better long term, they last longer.
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But unless you have a good access to some form
of biodiesel that which you can make, biodiesel you can make,
you know.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So I would say diesel was the best.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I would still think because a diesel. Even the newer
trucks will still run on alternative fuel methods to a
certain degree. Yeah again, like you were talking about earlier. Dude,
you're your fuel economy is going to go to ship.
You're gonna get three or four miles to the gallony moving.
It's better than not moving.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
If you unplug certain things.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Oh dude, that damn thing will run on the engine.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Line is gonna come on, it's gonna tell you only
got like thirty miles to like, you know, per hour
to go. But who cares. You're at least your moving.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Right, And you know that's the thing too, is you
can take like used engine oil yep, and if processed properly, yeah,
you can make you can make diesel yep. With used
engine oil. You can make a compatible fuel with like
I was talking about earlier, fry oil.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Right, So you go to all kinds of restaurants, right
and again, and even the transformers that oil is used.
I mean, if I had harder to get but yes, yeah,
how many poles as you're driving down the road, you're.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Having to get up there and get them in the road,
chains off of the ground, let the dirt and boom.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And then you just like drill the hole, drain it out.
Next boom, you go another you know what is it
five hundred feet, drop the next bole.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The full tank, and just go right, you know. But
if you had to, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I still think diesel is probably your best.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Unless you have a unless you have a uh viable
way of making alcohol in large quantities. If because if
you're able to, because you have because you're growing enough
corn or sugarcane to make large enough quantities of alcohol,
Like in Brazil a lot of their vehicles are sugarcane
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alcohol powered. Then in that case that would be you know,
that would be better.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So well, and you know a lot of things too,
is like you can power you can power a diesel
engineal propane yea right? Is it ideal? No? No? No?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And propane does last for ten plus years.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, but you can power diesel and propane right, this
last for like diesel. Listen, even if you put it
from what I've seen, and maybe you've seen different, I
don't know, but the longest I've ever seen diesel last
is three years.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
That was with the stabilization treatments and everything else. I
got about three years out of it, and then it
was you. You couldn't light it if you wanted to. Yeah,
I mean diesel's pain light anyways. But it wasn't like
you could dump it on a freaking pile of wood
and light the wood and the diesel.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It's like, but now you've.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Got to think gas is only like a year now.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah so if that, but now with all the ethanol
and what plus, you're rotten your dang fuel system out.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
True. True. Now you gotta think what else is the
vehicle going to be used for?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
If if it's gonna be used for we're talking true
shit hit the fan scenario, it may not be used
only for hauling people and or supplies. You may need
to actually use it for battle per se. Okay, So again,
looking at a it's a movie, yes, but something like
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Mad Max Okay, I mean, I mean, honestly think of
it though, Oh you know that sweet No, but I'm
talking about hard points, armor and or weapons. You know. Again,
a smaller car, the suspension is not going to be
able to hold the weight of armored That's what I'm
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saying again. Trucks, SUVs, larger vehicles course, yeah, you know,
are going to be more able to support the weight of.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Arm Now you also have taken a ssideration though with
size and weight and suspension rates that are able to
hold that you lose a lot of nimbility maneuverability.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
While it is capable of doing the same thing, you
might not be able to turn it around quite as quick.
So you there are given takes to everything.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Every tool has an application exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I mean me as y'all know, I drive a dually dude.
I can pull whatever the hell you want wherever the
hell you want it like, We'll move it, period, don't care.
But it might take me three football fields to turn
damn thing around, you know. And that is one thing
that has to be taking a new consideration, especially if
using it in a tactical aspect. There has to be
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a not having to make an eighty seven point turn
to get out of a.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But you know, a two way road, if it's armored
up enough, you just go through.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Well, I mean, if that's the point, we're gonna build
a damn snowplow in the front of it right, armor
the whole damn playing, and we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Rip it like. You don't have to turn around, you
just go through it. Every in front of you.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I like it, dude, I approve thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Now. I know I'm gonna get slammed on this because
I am not an electric car guy in any way,
shape or form. But let's think of the realistic benefit possibly. Okay,
the truck, Oh god, no.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I do. I've actually thought of the cyber If.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Anything, EV is not gonna make it, don't you mention it.
It's not possible.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's not why four.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Because there's so many there's a thirty two modules on
a vehicle that communicate with satellites. When those satellites get
emp or anything happens with those modules, because they're always
talking to each other, they're gonna go down. Okay, and
when those go down, they go down in our bays.
To be honest with you, like they'll do the over
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the air bullcrap overnight. Will come into work and we're like,
what the hell this thing isn't starting tomorrow. It's not
moving night. Yeah. And if we look on like the
the PTS, I'm like, well it had it over the date,
uh you know update We're like, well maybe it didn't
finish or something. No, I didn't finish because there was
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something within like the satellite and the glitch and it's
like it stopped. Well, it disabled that vehicle because we
got to go through it's like twelve hours worth their
programming to get that vehicle running again.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Because I've seen certain car makers like Toyota wants to
get around that anything no no is get away from
all the computer aspects of it, please, And they're looking
at creating a EV pickup that is bare bones. That
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literally is it doesn't rely on satellites. It's it's you
turn the key, the battery powers the wheels and it
goes still.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
You know, you're with the electronic electricity.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
So it's right right right, so so and and EMP
can still like shut it down. But like let's say
like whatever the sh let's say it's walking dead. There
was no e MP. It's just society collapse, right. So
the vehicle itself doesn't need satellites, doesn't need any of that.
It's just the batteries are charged by whatever, be it
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solar panels under roof or it plugs into wherever and there.
It's not hooked up to any computers. It's it's literally
like what they were doing a while back, where it's
battery electric motor power go. But and they're talking about
selling these four under twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
That's a new toya to pickup truck in it, right.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, so r if I so we have these I
had this vehicle commitment when it had a Disney keychain
on it. It was metal. It's like a coin, and
we're like, why is this thing like turning on? It
won't do nothing? Or if I was dragging that the
energy to that coin and stopping all communications to the vehicle.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Through a coin. Through a coin was not even related
to the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
A cord, a charging cord. If we don't unplug them
from the USB, we can't program them because if the
electronic interference exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
But and that's the point is they're talking about things
that have to be programmed. They're talking about taking a
step back. How do they golf cars? How do golf
carts work? Especially the ones? Again, it's a battery that
powers a motor with a key and that's it. There
is no wire wire and that's it right. There is
no computer stuff exact. And that's what they're talking about,
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is is a bare bones pickup truck for people that
want a work truck to simply move stuff from point
a appointment. They don't want navigation, they don't want electric windows,
they don't want any of that crap, you know, entertainment
system or whatever. They need a basically a scaled up
golf cart.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know, well in all the modules now they have
like they're called fats or past action acting relays, and
so as soon as any like electric from like lightning
or anything, it destroys them. So little is that it
could be a mile away and we get these cars
(30:55):
in and it's like, what happened to your car? Oh,
I don't know, Well there's a mile strike or a
lightning strike a mile away from you. This is what
took out your car. Crazy, Like you don't see no
lightning strikes or nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
And that's what I'm saying. I totally understand with the
like with the modern cars. But if you go back
to golf cart technology, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
If it has the fast, fast acting really on it, right,
it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
But again most golf carts don't. And you see these
golf carts running around all over the place. So just
and that's what Toyota was talking about, was they were
talking twenty thousand dollars price point to start at four
wheel drives.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It was pretty wild because because golf carts now brand
new golf carts, you know, the old cells are like
seven eight thousand dollars, you know, so they're just basically
sizing it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Car.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, so they're just sizing it up a little bit.
I was looking at yeah, like I was looking.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Pucker was fast though. It would rip the front tires
off the ground.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Then four wheel drive off roads side by side, completely
battery powered. You know, that was made for being up
in the mountains and stuff. And granted it was about
seventeen eighteen thousand, but you just plug it in and
there was no bells and whistles. It literally it was
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just but that the batteries.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
This boils back down to yeah, end of the world apocalypse, right,
not even emp right, just world without rule of law.
There's no power.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, So so.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Now how do you charge unless said vehicle? I mean
you could use solar panels.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Solar panels, wind power. Hell, even five of your friends
on fucking exercise bikes, you know, like you know, so
like whatever it takes.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
One day we had a issue happened and it was
carb was sitting in the bay and we just did
updates on it and all of a sudden, we can't
turn that car on. Well, they did afford to afford
update and affords pts like it's our dynostic. It was down.
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They shut everything down, so any vehicle that had that
software could not move exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
And that's the point is.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
The government can turn that ship off.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
That's why I don't like, you know, right like that.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
At that point I was like, okay, well this is serious,
like this is happening, right.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But that's why if you go old school, which again
Toyota and certain other companies are, are they because what
people are looking for now are like side by sides
like Polaris or you know, you know like that go
for it, you know that are old school battery wire,
electric motor key. That's it. There's no upload or download
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of anything. There is no communicating with satellites. It's just
you charge up the batteries. However you charge them up,
if you charge it up with a generator, whatever, you
charge up the batteries, you turn the key and it goes.
You know, if you can get that, you're good long term.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
It's probably well I say that golf cart esque stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I mean, batteries go bad eventually, yes, like on a
golf car though.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I mean, dude, you're looking two years on a set
of batteries. I understand that. You know, obviously, in like
the Tesla's and you know, the more modern vehicle stuff,
your battery life is greatly extended. I mean, you know
you're talking seven eight years.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I mean but on the cars for like you hit
one hundred thousand battery really yes.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, Because like for the homes, our batteries are are
warrantyed for ten years and they've been having so far
them going longer. Out of the four batteries we have,
we had one that had an issue, there was a
fault in it. They replaced it for your charge. The
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other three are still working perfectly fine, and we've had
them now since twenty twenty two, so three years, and
they're working well.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That that's separate than like the vehicle uses the battery
more than your house does. I don't know are because
it's going through the over the air updates takes so
much out of the vehicle that we don't even know,
Like it raises everything and it puts everything back in
(35:54):
is like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Because how Because with the Tesla batteries for the home,
especially if you're hooked up with solar, you could adjust
them to where, let's say you want them to say
at one hundred percent all the time, so you're always
during the day you're just using solar and it not
using grid, or you could set it to fifty percent
or whatever. I've our set at thirty percent, so our
(36:19):
battery so our house only runs on the grid when
we get down to thirty percent battery usage. For six
months out of the year, we almost never hit thirty
percent because you know, the AC's not on, you know,
the sun is out, you know, so we barely ever
(36:40):
get under fifty percent battery right now, Yeah, we get
down to thirty almost every night. Some nights will actually
make it through to the end of the night. So
it is, but it never goes lower than thirty because
as with any battery, if you go below a certain point.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It's bad for the battery for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
But me talking with them, they're like, thirty percent, that's
not going to damage the battery. So we have our
set at thirty so our cycle through quite often, so
it's not like I understand if you have your battery
set to one hundred, So my battery hasn't discharge three
times this year only. Yeah, my batteries discharge almost every day,
(37:21):
almost every day.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You know, any of the automakers, they're telling you not
to charge a battery to one hundred percent. They're only
to charge it to eighty five percent.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Dude, Look on your because iPhone. Your iPhone tells you
the same thing. On your iPhone, it literally tells you
there is a setting on there. It's called a battery
saber setting. Yes, and it says it recommends that you
set your battery between eighty five and ninety percent, so
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when you plug it in at night, it will only
charge that battery to eighty five or ninety percent or
whatever the heck can happen.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Here's the thing. You take it off of the charger. Yeah,
is that one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
So does it.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Stores that energy? And then when you take it off
the charger, it gives the energy to the device.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, mine doesn't. Like when I unplug mine. As soon
as I'm plugged it, I can look at it and
it tells me ninety five percent, And like when I
charge it in the car, Yeah, because I leave mine
plugged in, like in the car, you know what, I'm
using the GPS and shit, try to figure out where
I'm going that day. It will only go to ninety
five percent and it'll stop. That's it. It's all I
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ever get.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, as we're with the house batteries, they want you
to go to one hundred percent. Yeah, but they don't
want you to go below a certain you know. And
ours will cycle from one hundred to thirty you know
in the summer, like now every day one hundred to
thirty one hundred to thirty one hundred. Now if the
if the power goes out, the grid goes down, then
(38:52):
I'm using purely battery power. Oh you got signal that service. Okay,
So let's wrap this up because we're at thirty eight
minutes here. We are talking pre nineteen eighty five. Preferably diesel,
preferbly diesel gas is acceptable if you have a way
of making alcohol as limited electronics as possible, preferably full
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size vehicle, four wheel drive, possibly a winch, something something
that can be armored up if need be. And then
if if you don't have a large full sized vehicle,
if you have golf cart, side beside something like that
(39:38):
that is electric. Those could also be used because they're
not as affected by other things and they're quiet, so
you could creep up on bad guys.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Electric excuters.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Okay, so, folks, if you have liked what we've talked
about today, good, awesome, if not too bad. This is
what we're talking about today. If you have questions, yes,
bonzamfredio dot com. We will get to you with any
of your answers. We have mechanics here who have been
(40:16):
working on vehicles in various forms for many years. You'll
see our K five build out going on shortly shortly,
which is uh.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
The only thing I don't like about it is we're
gonna have to take the freaking bow tie off the
front and replace it with the old oval.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
And then it again blue oval syndrome, which is just
not good.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Wait, thank you, huh the Ford.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I prefer the super in the Ford, So thank you
so much for tuning in. This was Blitzkrieg the Vehicle,
Edition number three, number three
Speaker 2 (40:54):
See later
Hello, Okay, here we are. It's but let's creek number three. Yes,
this is where we take one topic. We condense it
down to about thirty minutes. It's not the long two
hour three hour format. This is hard and fast the
way that boo is. Wow. Ouch, I had to do that. Okay,
(00:25):
hard and fast?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I am hard right now?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
The two pump jump, right, we know that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Okay fast.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Actually, we've got today.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Let's creed would.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Let's creak number three. We're gonna talk about vehicles and
vehicle ticking postship hit the fan. So now, realistically, what
do you want to be driving when she hits the fan?
A prius? No, No, of course not no.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, I was good.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I kind of would No, I'm just no.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
How about an in one Abrams tank, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It depends on if it's a pre nineteen ninety because.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They have no they have multi fuel, they.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Have the multi field, they have the all the modules
for just about anything on them.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, I forgot about the multi fuel. That was really
good point. I didn't even think about that one.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now I can't because a lot of people don't don't
realize that a lot of military vehicles prior to nineteen
eighty five actually ran on multi fuel motors. They could
run on anything combustible, literally folksine or diazel kerosene, fry oil,
fry oil. A lot of people don't know the transformers
(01:48):
that you see on the road on the power poles.
That oil will run. Now, granted it won't be efficient,
but it runs.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's like I do the transformers.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, it's like, who who cares if you're not getting
ten miles to the gallon, you're only getting five, But
at least you're getting something.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, you're moving, You're moving.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, they are able to. So that's why you see
so many preppers buying old deuce in the half and
five tons.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
So just our luck. We have a Ford Senior Master
Technician with us.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, we do, also a.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Certified master what do Go ahead and please get your
credentials because I can't. I'll get them all wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've been with it for since my daughter eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Off and on credentials.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So Master AC, no Senior Master AC certified, Ford Master,
Senior Master's Fight certified.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You said, damn sure, got that wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I also got a Honda and super Master certified because
as I've raced Honda. I owned subrews, so I wanted
to figure out superus like ins and out, so I
make them, uh take them to the max? So I did.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
By the way, folks, his subie is freaking rad as.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
How about the only two vehicles that really matter when
it comes to post ship hit the fan?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Which toyotas should hit the fan? And chev whoa, I'm
telling you this car will still run after the fact,
Like I've done everything I can with the E M
P module protectors and all that good stuff. I put
(03:47):
bags over the PC.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
M Oh boy, is gonna have the fastest car after
the freaking.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I don't know if I still had my formula, that's
the way I am, like, Yeah, if I still had
the formula though that thing was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It will.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But this could be the newest and the best, like
to get us somewhere, Like it's not gonna fair everybody,
but yes, if we have the mount a forty cow
or fifty cow on top, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
We can cut the roof off.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's already been cut off once, so.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
But realistic, Okay, let's think what is going to be
the biggest need ship of the fan, right, you're gonna
need something with utility, so.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's oil drive.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, right, so either all wheel drive or four wheel drive.
Now four wheel drive for a lot of people don't
know there is a difference between oil drive and four
You know, foil drive is more hardcore.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, if you've ever driven in the snow or the sand, right,
you would know exactly what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
If you have locking differentials or not as well, because
even a two wheel drive, if you have rear locking,
that can get you out of ninety percent of the stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, but don't go in there with like a the
strict tires you need like oh no, of course, the
dators or write some kind of all train tire to
do that.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But you've got to figure okay, post it it the fan.
You're gonna need a car like a Honda or super
even the like the formula I had the transam like
back in the day. Is okay, but.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But it only seats for maybe or two people with
a little bit of gear. Realistically, trucks or vans.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
We'll pick off the trunk and we'll send the trunk.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well that's that that is a possibility as well. But
trucks or vans. Yeah, you know, be it either a
pickup truck or like the old High Lucks. I mean,
come on, yeah, I mean, granted I'm one hundre percent American,
but you cannot deny the Toyota High Lucks.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
We have a fore Runner, and that thing is amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yes it is. But you know, like when you're talking
about the possibility of needing to tow or to pull
yourself out of like situations, that's where trucks do tend
to be better than stands and cars. Now, if you're
post shit it, the fan is more like, oh my god,
(06:33):
my brain just shut down. That TV show Twisted Metal. Okay,
I big fan of the game. I played it on
PlayStation one for years. The TV show came out, loved it,
you know, good adaptation of the thing. But you see,
that vehicle is specifically built for a certain things. There
(06:53):
are still roads for the most part, and it's to
get between cities, to transport X, Y and z, you know,
small things whatever. But when we're talking about true shit,
it fin not TV stuff. You're probably gonna need stuff
that can deal with mud, off road, snow, sand, rubble.
(07:14):
You maybe having to crawl over part of a brick
wall that fell over, you know, the into the road
things like that. So that's where even though things like
the Subaru, which are awesome, you know, and certain other.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Things I have to put the highest level on.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You're gonna need stuff with some ground clearance to like
get you over or even through water. Not necessarily deep water, yeah,
but you know stuff that can actually you know, get
through some stuff. Now, let's go with fuels. Okay. Gasoline
is the most plentiful right now, yes, but it also
(08:00):
goes bad the fastest. That's why you have to have
a fuel stabilizer. Some of the best ones out there
can keep your fuel stable for a year, year and
a half tops. You know, Diesel lasts slugger at as.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Long as long as it's stabilized and it's kept in
an air tight can, because if not, diesel will actually
algefy yeah algify right word, but diesel will algebil whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's why alcohol fuel vehicles tend to work better because
you can make alcohol and it is harder to It's beautiful,
right it is, And it is harder to convert a
diesel to alcohol than it is a gasoline motor correct
you know. So, I mean, again, there's so many variables now.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But what if you took a gas engine and just
made a gasifier for wood fuel for wood fuel, right,
and then you can run any gas engine prior to
like nineteen seventy nine. It's not so it's not steam,
it is, but it's combustible though, it's but it's creating
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a combustible gas off of the of the fuel.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
As long as you up in Hawthorne, Florida. He has
a seventy nine Ford uh cator like pickup truck and wow,
I thought it was bullshit when I first saw it.
But yeah, and you can run it out actually if
you watch the Walking Dead spin off, uh Darryl. Yeah,
(09:43):
but but no, in France they actually have some of
their vehicles running on wood gasifying, you know, and it
does work. So I mean, these are things that you
can experiment with, you know, that are not practical at
this point in time. But it's the fan. There's no
more fuel that is something that you could do. Alcohol
fuel if you are able to grow let's say, sugarcane
(10:06):
like in the South, like we can, you can make
your own alcohol fuel. And it's not and I mean
actually the old firebird I used to have used to
run on avgas, you know, I mean it was yeah,
it was. It was bad. What was that?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So back in the day, whenever I was building mud
trucks and stuff, right, we would take the motors, would
hop them up, you know, get as much power out
of them as we could.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
When you're running twelve thirteen to one compression.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
But and we would run avgas.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, AGAs.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I'm gonna tell you right now, there is nothing in
this world that smells better. The smell alone is phenomenal.
It's like, bro, why did you spend five dollars a
gallon of gas? Smells good?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, And when you're pumping out one hundred and twelve octaners.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, I think the stub we used to run was
one hundred and nine. I want to say, yeah, it
was like one hundred eight hundred ninecto.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, it would bounce.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
One hundred eight is smelt.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Where I used to get it from for my bird
is since I lived in Miami back then, right at
the edge of the Everglades, you had a gas station
that where all the airboats were photers for sure, and
they ran on avgas because their engines were usually airplane
aviation engines, right exactly. So I'd go there and I'd
fill up with AV gas. And it was even nineteen
(11:35):
eighty seven. To give you folks an idea.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He's about nineteen forty three.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Nineteen eighty seven, regular gas was running eighty seven cents
a gallon. Super unlettered was running a dollar a gallon.
The avgas was running was running a dollar eighty eight
a gallon, almost twice what Super unlettered was nineteen eighty seven.
So I mean now, yeah, av gas.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Now is like yeah, like I said, I have gas. Now,
the last time I bought any it was by the
fifty five gallon drum, right it was, And given this
has been so this was years ago. It was four
hundred dollars right for fifty five gallons. So now, dude, hell,
(12:23):
it's probably freaking twelve dollars a gallon.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, it's probably crazy. Now, what have gas for gas?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah? Back when I used to buy about the fifty
five gallon drum, I could get it for just a
hair under eight dollars a gallon.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I was telling you, dude, I nineteen eighty seven
a dollar eighty eighty gallon.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
No, it's like ten dollars or fifteen dollars an hour gallon.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Wow, it's crazy. So you're you're gonna want something that's
reliable though, right, something that you can fix yourself. You
don't need anything with a bunch of computer components. A
good and peak could fry this stuff or if the
stuff breaks. That was the beauty of the shade tree
mechanic back in the day. You know where you could
(13:06):
fix damn near anything on your vehicle yourself with duct tape,
paper clip and I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
For sure, yeah, a hose clamper too, and a screwdriver
it We're good.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Your paper clip was your dinostator.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, like are you getting sparked?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yep, sure, Like you could plug it into like the
OBD port and it would flash like so many times.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah he's talking about I'm talking before there was any
such things.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Even with that, it was like it was still the
paper clip. Yeah, the two prongs. It would have flash
as many times it was, and then you would like one, two, three,
four five, and it would stop one two three, yeah,
one two you know what flashing on the dash right right,
they'll tell you they got to misfire on like one
or two or three whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It was exactly exactly, yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But what is what is currently what would be the
most reliable engine?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, correctly.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
So now let's go back, let's say twenty years to
a more simple time. Are we talking gas, We're talking diesel.
The diesel fuel is going to last longer.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Either one will last longer. It depends on actually, like
the modules. What's the EB going to take out? Yeah, yeah,
it's gonna take out your battery. It's going to take
out your PCM maybe when it was there, So.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That we would we be better off going back, Let's
say to like thirty years and go to like the
early to mid nineties.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So I'd say mid eighties on back.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I mean, points in the contacts are pretty cheap, right
if you could find them.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But you can always, I mean, because like back in
the day, we'd sand him down, you know, take the
little every Yeah, take.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
A little file, scrape back off. It's good.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But for me, I would put them all like I
would buy new parts and put them in a bag
and keep them in the vehicle so that way when
something happens, you get it with you right, change them out,
and you're back on the road. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But give to take if the ship truly it's the fan.
The biggest thing is going to be how to power
the vehicle. Right, you can have the like you'd have
a stock pop all the parts you need, but if
you don't have the fuel to run the vehicle.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I want a nineteen eighty six. I want a nineteen
eighty six six point nine liters International in a frigging
Ford Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
For nine forward.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, I'm talking about something that like parts are still available.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You gotta crank that ship old You're going to get somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
We can make the parts ourselves instead of cranking. I mean,
come on the old uh the old manuals, like you
could roll start them anywhay, Yeah, you know, so you
don't have to crank. You can just push, push whatever
you got, right, So.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I think this is where we need to determine, like
what's your priority.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well, like I was saying at the beginning, is it's
gonna be most likely utility because your vehicle is gonna
most likely be used to carry people, cargo, or towing things.
So that's where a senate like the super I love
the super Rus, you know, but I understand, but.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Realistically I am serious I got on video I have
to show you.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
But but realistically it can only hold so much cargo
it can, right, you know. So and so we're talking,
uh like pickup truck SGV, like a suburban or a
tahoe or a blazer, you know, vans right, No, No,
it's important to get you know, it's SUVs will do
(17:04):
it SUVs in general. So I mean, be it the suburban,
the excursion.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
How about this a full sized vehicle.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Full sized truck frame, not you, the body, full size
truck frame.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Un body, I can't really the forerunner I can't put down.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Also because a Humby is technically a unibody Humby. Yeah, yeah,
it is technically a unibody vehicle. It is while it
does have while it hurts and no, not you, but
while it does have a frame, the way that it's built,
a military Humby is technically a unibody.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Vehicle because it's the.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
How the frame is built in to the body is right.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Where is the suspension.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But that's where we go to again, the multi fuel vehicles.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So now you can get a freaking hum V like
pre nineteen eighty five, Yeah, buy one.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, but even those.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
One hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
When I first, no, hell no, we're playing it brote
eighty five hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, still close, I mean close up. Until about ten
years ago, you could find a deuce and a half
multi fuel for literally ten k.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Or if you just know your local fire station, house bomb.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, well choice equipment. In fact, you still can b
o y Ce equipment right. Yeah, they're out of Michigan
or Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Minnesota, I think.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
But that is back when I used to build two
and a half. Then trucks, mud trucks. That was your
go to for all your parts, like you needed boots
for the actual outers. That was it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Because now some preppers talking about, well, if you're gonna
have a vehicle posted to defend, it's gotta be a
great man vehicle. So no one, I'm sorry, I understand
their logic because because they don't want to be seen
as a target because oh, look at this awesome vehicle.
(19:20):
I completely understand.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But if you did your job right and you have
a tribe, that ship is no longer relevant.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You're in a convoy.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But yeah, so you need offered capability because sh it's
the fan. There's roads are gonna be blocked by various things. Trees, down,
so you may need a winch to pull things away.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know. The two and a half times come with
a hydraulic winch, and.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
They are high water vehicles, you know, So if there's
a road that is flooded, you know, I mean, I'm
not talking ten feet deep, but if it's a good.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Three four five, if properly equipped, if properly equipped, well
we've seen the videos of hummers or yeah, snorkels and
exhaust pipe.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Stick it up, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, exhaust pipe is not so much, but it's not
sucking as long as.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You don't stall. Once you stall, then water gets in exactly,
So that's why.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But install, don't be stupid.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You know, it happens. It happens, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Guess if you're in the panic, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So, but still we're talking realistically, pre eighty truck or
suv correct, Okay, preferably here's the whole sketchy part. Gas
or diesel. Diesel motors are better long term, they last longer.
(20:55):
But unless you have a good access to some form
of biodiesel that which you can make, biodiesel you can make,
you know.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So I would say diesel was the best.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I would still think because a diesel. Even the newer
trucks will still run on alternative fuel methods to a
certain degree. Yeah again, like you were talking about earlier. Dude,
you're your fuel economy is going to go to ship.
You're gonna get three or four miles to the gallony moving.
It's better than not moving.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
If you unplug certain things.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Oh dude, that damn thing will run on the engine.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Line is gonna come on, it's gonna tell you only
got like thirty miles to like, you know, per hour
to go. But who cares. You're at least your moving.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Right, And you know that's the thing too, is you
can take like used engine oil yep, and if processed properly, yeah,
you can make you can make diesel yep. With used
engine oil. You can make a compatible fuel with like
I was talking about earlier, fry oil.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Right, So you go to all kinds of restaurants, right
and again, and even the transformers that oil is used.
I mean, if I had harder to get but yes, yeah,
how many poles as you're driving down the road, you're.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Having to get up there and get them in the road,
chains off of the ground, let the dirt and boom.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And then you just like drill the hole, drain it out.
Next boom, you go another you know what is it
five hundred feet, drop the next bole.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The full tank, and just go right, you know. But
if you had to, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I still think diesel is probably your best.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Unless you have a unless you have a uh viable
way of making alcohol in large quantities. If because if
you're able to, because you have because you're growing enough
corn or sugarcane to make large enough quantities of alcohol,
Like in Brazil a lot of their vehicles are sugarcane
(23:01):
alcohol powered. Then in that case that would be you know,
that would be better.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So well, and you know a lot of things too,
is like you can power you can power a diesel
engineal propane yea right? Is it ideal? No? No? No?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And propane does last for ten plus years.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, but you can power diesel and propane right, this
last for like diesel. Listen, even if you put it
from what I've seen, and maybe you've seen different, I
don't know, but the longest I've ever seen diesel last
is three years.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
That was with the stabilization treatments and everything else. I
got about three years out of it, and then it
was you. You couldn't light it if you wanted to. Yeah,
I mean diesel's pain light anyways. But it wasn't like
you could dump it on a freaking pile of wood
and light the wood and the diesel.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It's like, but now you've.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Got to think gas is only like a year now.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah so if that, but now with all the ethanol
and what plus, you're rotten your dang fuel system out.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
True. True. Now you gotta think what else is the
vehicle going to be used for?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
If if it's gonna be used for we're talking true
shit hit the fan scenario, it may not be used
only for hauling people and or supplies. You may need
to actually use it for battle per se. Okay, So again,
looking at a it's a movie, yes, but something like
(24:39):
Mad Max Okay, I mean, I mean, honestly think of
it though, Oh you know that sweet No, but I'm
talking about hard points, armor and or weapons. You know. Again,
a smaller car, the suspension is not going to be
able to hold the weight of armored That's what I'm
(25:00):
saying again. Trucks, SUVs, larger vehicles course, yeah, you know,
are going to be more able to support the weight of.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Arm Now you also have taken a ssideration though with
size and weight and suspension rates that are able to
hold that you lose a lot of nimbility maneuverability.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
While it is capable of doing the same thing, you
might not be able to turn it around quite as quick.
So you there are given takes to everything.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Every tool has an application exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I mean me as y'all know, I drive a dually dude.
I can pull whatever the hell you want wherever the
hell you want it like, We'll move it, period, don't care.
But it might take me three football fields to turn
damn thing around, you know. And that is one thing
that has to be taking a new consideration, especially if
using it in a tactical aspect. There has to be
(26:01):
a not having to make an eighty seven point turn
to get out of a.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But you know, a two way road, if it's armored
up enough, you just go through.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Well, I mean, if that's the point, we're gonna build
a damn snowplow in the front of it right, armor
the whole damn playing, and we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Rip it like. You don't have to turn around, you
just go through it. Every in front of you.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I like it, dude, I approve thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Now. I know I'm gonna get slammed on this because
I am not an electric car guy in any way,
shape or form. But let's think of the realistic benefit possibly. Okay,
the truck, Oh god, no.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I do. I've actually thought of the cyber If.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Anything, EV is not gonna make it, don't you mention it.
It's not possible.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's not why four.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Because there's so many there's a thirty two modules on
a vehicle that communicate with satellites. When those satellites get
emp or anything happens with those modules, because they're always
talking to each other, they're gonna go down. Okay, and
when those go down, they go down in our bays.
To be honest with you, like they'll do the over
(27:14):
the air bullcrap overnight. Will come into work and we're like,
what the hell this thing isn't starting tomorrow. It's not
moving night. Yeah. And if we look on like the
the PTS, I'm like, well it had it over the date,
uh you know update We're like, well maybe it didn't
finish or something. No, I didn't finish because there was
(27:35):
something within like the satellite and the glitch and it's
like it stopped. Well, it disabled that vehicle because we
got to go through it's like twelve hours worth their
programming to get that vehicle running again.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Because I've seen certain car makers like Toyota wants to
get around that anything no no is get away from
all the computer aspects of it, please, And they're looking
at creating a EV pickup that is bare bones. That
(28:11):
literally is it doesn't rely on satellites. It's it's you
turn the key, the battery powers the wheels and it
goes still.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
You know, you're with the electronic electricity.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
So it's right right right, so so and and EMP
can still like shut it down. But like let's say
like whatever the sh let's say it's walking dead. There
was no e MP. It's just society collapse, right. So
the vehicle itself doesn't need satellites, doesn't need any of that.
It's just the batteries are charged by whatever, be it
(28:48):
solar panels under roof or it plugs into wherever and there.
It's not hooked up to any computers. It's it's literally
like what they were doing a while back, where it's
battery electric motor power go. But and they're talking about
selling these four under twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
That's a new toya to pickup truck in it, right.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, so r if I so we have these I
had this vehicle commitment when it had a Disney keychain
on it. It was metal. It's like a coin, and
we're like, why is this thing like turning on? It
won't do nothing? Or if I was dragging that the
energy to that coin and stopping all communications to the vehicle.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Through a coin. Through a coin was not even related
to the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
A cord, a charging cord. If we don't unplug them
from the USB, we can't program them because if the
electronic interference exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
But and that's the point is they're talking about things
that have to be programmed. They're talking about taking a
step back. How do they golf cars? How do golf
carts work? Especially the ones? Again, it's a battery that
powers a motor with a key and that's it. There
is no wire wire and that's it right. There is
no computer stuff exact. And that's what they're talking about,
(30:11):
is is a bare bones pickup truck for people that
want a work truck to simply move stuff from point
a appointment. They don't want navigation, they don't want electric windows,
they don't want any of that crap, you know, entertainment
system or whatever. They need a basically a scaled up
golf cart.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know, well in all the modules now they have
like they're called fats or past action acting relays, and
so as soon as any like electric from like lightning
or anything, it destroys them. So little is that it
could be a mile away and we get these cars
(30:55):
in and it's like, what happened to your car? Oh,
I don't know, Well there's a mile strike or a
lightning strike a mile away from you. This is what
took out your car. Crazy, Like you don't see no
lightning strikes or nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
And that's what I'm saying. I totally understand with the
like with the modern cars. But if you go back
to golf cart technology, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
If it has the fast, fast acting really on it, right,
it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
But again most golf carts don't. And you see these
golf carts running around all over the place. So just
and that's what Toyota was talking about, was they were
talking twenty thousand dollars price point to start at four
wheel drives.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It was pretty wild because because golf carts now brand
new golf carts, you know, the old cells are like
seven eight thousand dollars, you know, so they're just basically
sizing it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Car.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, so they're just sizing it up a little bit.
I was looking at yeah, like I was looking.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Pucker was fast though. It would rip the front tires
off the ground.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Then four wheel drive off roads side by side, completely
battery powered. You know, that was made for being up
in the mountains and stuff. And granted it was about
seventeen eighteen thousand, but you just plug it in and
there was no bells and whistles. It literally it was
(32:24):
just but that the batteries.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
This boils back down to yeah, end of the world apocalypse, right,
not even emp right, just world without rule of law.
There's no power.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, So so.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Now how do you charge unless said vehicle? I mean
you could use solar panels.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Solar panels, wind power. Hell, even five of your friends
on fucking exercise bikes, you know, like you know, so
like whatever it takes.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
One day we had a issue happened and it was
carb was sitting in the bay and we just did
updates on it and all of a sudden, we can't
turn that car on. Well, they did afford to afford
update and affords pts like it's our dynostic. It was down.
(33:21):
They shut everything down, so any vehicle that had that
software could not move exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
And that's the point is.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
The government can turn that ship off.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
That's why I don't like, you know, right like that.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
At that point I was like, okay, well this is serious,
like this is happening, right.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But that's why if you go old school, which again
Toyota and certain other companies are, are they because what
people are looking for now are like side by sides
like Polaris or you know, you know like that go
for it, you know that are old school battery wire,
electric motor key. That's it. There's no upload or download
(34:03):
of anything. There is no communicating with satellites. It's just
you charge up the batteries. However you charge them up,
if you charge it up with a generator, whatever, you
charge up the batteries, you turn the key and it goes.
You know, if you can get that, you're good long term.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
It's probably well I say that golf cart esque stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I mean, batteries go bad eventually, yes, like on a
golf car though.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I mean, dude, you're looking two years on a set
of batteries. I understand that. You know, obviously, in like
the Tesla's and you know, the more modern vehicle stuff,
your battery life is greatly extended. I mean, you know
you're talking seven eight years.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I mean but on the cars for like you hit
one hundred thousand battery really yes.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, Because like for the homes, our batteries are are
warrantyed for ten years and they've been having so far
them going longer. Out of the four batteries we have,
we had one that had an issue, there was a
fault in it. They replaced it for your charge. The
(35:23):
other three are still working perfectly fine, and we've had
them now since twenty twenty two, so three years, and
they're working well.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That that's separate than like the vehicle uses the battery
more than your house does. I don't know are because
it's going through the over the air updates takes so
much out of the vehicle that we don't even know,
Like it raises everything and it puts everything back in
(35:54):
is like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Because how Because with the Tesla batteries for the home,
especially if you're hooked up with solar, you could adjust
them to where, let's say you want them to say
at one hundred percent all the time, so you're always
during the day you're just using solar and it not
using grid, or you could set it to fifty percent
or whatever. I've our set at thirty percent, so our
(36:19):
battery so our house only runs on the grid when
we get down to thirty percent battery usage. For six
months out of the year, we almost never hit thirty
percent because you know, the AC's not on, you know,
the sun is out, you know, so we barely ever
(36:40):
get under fifty percent battery right now, Yeah, we get
down to thirty almost every night. Some nights will actually
make it through to the end of the night. So
it is, but it never goes lower than thirty because
as with any battery, if you go below a certain point.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It's bad for the battery for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
But me talking with them, they're like, thirty percent, that's
not going to damage the battery. So we have our
set at thirty so our cycle through quite often, so
it's not like I understand if you have your battery
set to one hundred, So my battery hasn't discharge three
times this year only. Yeah, my batteries discharge almost every day,
(37:21):
almost every day.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You know, any of the automakers, they're telling you not
to charge a battery to one hundred percent. They're only
to charge it to eighty five percent.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Dude, Look on your because iPhone. Your iPhone tells you
the same thing. On your iPhone, it literally tells you
there is a setting on there. It's called a battery
saber setting. Yes, and it says it recommends that you
set your battery between eighty five and ninety percent, so
(37:49):
when you plug it in at night, it will only
charge that battery to eighty five or ninety percent or
whatever the heck can happen.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Here's the thing. You take it off of the charger. Yeah,
is that one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
So does it.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Stores that energy? And then when you take it off
the charger, it gives the energy to the device.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, mine doesn't. Like when I unplug mine. As soon
as I'm plugged it, I can look at it and
it tells me ninety five percent, And like when I
charge it in the car, Yeah, because I leave mine
plugged in, like in the car, you know what, I'm
using the GPS and shit, try to figure out where
I'm going that day. It will only go to ninety
five percent and it'll stop. That's it. It's all I
(38:30):
ever get.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, as we're with the house batteries, they want you
to go to one hundred percent. Yeah, but they don't
want you to go below a certain you know. And
ours will cycle from one hundred to thirty you know
in the summer, like now every day one hundred to
thirty one hundred to thirty one hundred. Now if the
if the power goes out, the grid goes down, then
(38:52):
I'm using purely battery power. Oh you got signal that service. Okay,
So let's wrap this up because we're at thirty eight
minutes here. We are talking pre nineteen eighty five. Preferably diesel,
preferbly diesel gas is acceptable if you have a way
of making alcohol as limited electronics as possible, preferably full
(39:17):
size vehicle, four wheel drive, possibly a winch, something something
that can be armored up if need be. And then
if if you don't have a large full sized vehicle,
if you have golf cart, side beside something like that
(39:38):
that is electric. Those could also be used because they're
not as affected by other things and they're quiet, so
you could creep up on bad guys.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Electric excuters.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Okay, so, folks, if you have liked what we've talked
about today, good, awesome, if not too bad. This is
what we're talking about today. If you have questions, yes,
bonzamfredio dot com. We will get to you with any
of your answers. We have mechanics here who have been
(40:16):
working on vehicles in various forms for many years. You'll
see our K five build out going on shortly shortly,
which is uh.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
The only thing I don't like about it is we're
gonna have to take the freaking bow tie off the
front and replace it with the old oval.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
And then it again blue oval syndrome, which is just
not good.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Wait, thank you, huh the Ford.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I prefer the super in the Ford, So thank you
so much for tuning in. This was Blitzkrieg the Vehicle,
Edition number three, number three
Speaker 2 (40:54):
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