August 4, 2025 • 40 mins
On episode #6 of Blitzkreig Banzai Ox and Booboo discuss Night Vision, IR, and Thermal optics.
They can be the force multiplier that helps you own the night both now and during SHTF.
They can be the force multiplier that helps you own the night both now and during SHTF.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Blitzkrieg number six. Yes, it is my self,
Bond's eye. We have ox and house and boo boo.
This is the Blitzkreg. What we do here is simple.
It is a short format thirty forty minutes, show one
topic without all the uh off topic fluff that well, well, there's.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Still a little bit Shenanigans. It's Shenanigan's light.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yes, yes, you don't have to listen to three hours
of US talk to get to the topic.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Tonight's topic is going to be night vision, you know,
infrared thermals, all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
That kind of stuff, anything that increases your ability ability
to see it at night in the dark, own the night. Yeah,
creature of the.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Some people, of course, says of the show already dropped the.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is it really that important to be able to see
you know, at night.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It's very important.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's a force multiplier, you know, I mean, because like
when it comes down to it, if there are batties
out there, if there are baddies, if there are batties
out there, you want to be able to see them
before they see you.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And there are so many other things that they're not
talking about, like the the new Age Batty term.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, no, not that, baddies, but there you know. So
it's funny before we get into this. Yeah, I've had
so many other uses for night vision and then for
ed thermalah for one. Yeah. Well, you know you've got
your hunting applications. You've got. I mean me, I use
mine when I go out at night. But I don't
want to scare the cowls. You know, we've got one
in like in labor, right, I don't want to scare
(01:44):
them with the flashlight. Bro, I slap my night vision on. Yeah, yeah,
they don't see it. I can be up within you know,
fifteen feet and then before they even realize I'm there. Yeah,
you know, help them, help them deliver a calf? What
there are multiple applications for every product that we talk
about on the show.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Role playing with the wife, dude.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I never thought about it. Great idea. Oh my lord,
leave the lights, Oh my lord.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Just helmet and boots. That's it. Stop.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Listen, hey, babe, I'll be home in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So, since you are a bit more of an expert
I'm new into the night vision field, I'll hand it
over to you right now. About the differences in price
that one single tube, dual tube some people.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That odds exactly God.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Call of duty and that you know, you get all
these you see all these crazy things and how crazy expensive.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh my lord, dude, it actually gets wild. I mean, yeah,
there are so many aspects once you get into the
night vision game. I mean, I know a couple of
y'all have like the uh the digital night vision that
you know is it's relatively inexpensive. And the funny part
is is it has come such a long way in
(03:06):
such a short period of time. I mean Psionics when
they first came out with their digital tubes, I mean
that was a game changer. And that's only been maybe
five years ago. You know, before that everything was analog.
You had, you know, your your L three tubes and
your Element tubes and everything else. And then here comes
(03:28):
Sionics on the scene and they're like, hey, guys, check
out what we can do digitally. And it was like wow,
and you did it at a quarter of the price
or even well, but see, that's what I was fixing
to get into too. Now that they have introduced that
on the scene, there are so many other people that
are coming out with it too as well. You know,
technically or typically you're like soonics tubes stuff like that,
(03:50):
you're finding their digital they run, you know, six hundred
to a thousand bucks. Dude, it is top notch quality.
I love it. I think I think it's really cool
what they've done, Like I said, in such a short
period of time.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Now, people that don't know, when they hear six hundred
one thousand, they think that's a lot. No, But when
you're looking at no, some of the you know, higher
gin like Analogus.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, so they.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Run three thousand, six thousand, fourteen thousand for some of
the quad.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Keep going once you get it, once you get up
into quads, I mean you're looking twenty four to twenty
five thirty five thousand dollars. Yeah, I mean I've crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But again professional Now you're talking about you're you are
a high speed operator and the government, the government gave it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, it's not yours. Yeah, it is not yours. You
have to turn that back in when you're all said
and done. Yeah, So like mine do. I run a
PVS fourteen little little monocular. Mine is a Gin three
hp plus so it has super high foam on it.
(05:00):
I mean, the clarity on it is it's great. It
is good, and I paid almost four thousand dollars for it,
and then, you know, it really freaking burns my butt
a little bit whenever you come over to the goddang
house and I know, but I'm sitting there and you're like, hey, dude,
(05:21):
check out my night vision And I was like, oh cool.
I pick it up and I look through it and
I'm like, wow, that's you know, it's really good. Yeah,
a digital tube. And I was like, how much was this?
You were like two hundred and fifty bucks. I'm like,
I freaking hate you, bro. Like now, given, you know,
there aren't given takes on both ends of that spectrum.
(05:44):
But you know, like I said, for the two hundred
and fifty dollars tube that you had and that you
have now bought, yeah they are for two hundred fifty bucks,
they're phenomenal. I mean, is it the end all be all? No?
But can you see in the dark? Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And it has magnification as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah. I mean here's the thing. I don't need it
to be perfect, no, I just need to be able
to in the dark without a flashlight see you before
you see me. I mean, you know, and like with
y'all's you know, there is a little bit of like delay,
like when you turn your head there and it's a
(06:29):
real is a minuscule amount of clipping. I mean it
is attention to it, right, No, Yeah, that's what I
was fixing it at. It's so fast. Yeah, I mean,
it's not even really that bad. You don't get that
with your freaking analog, which is cool, But listen, if
I'm going to destroy a set of freaking night Vision,
(06:50):
I would much rather destroy a freaking two hundred and
fifty dollars set than a four thousand dollars set, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
That's what I was thinking too, was I mean if
I mean, I mean, granted, if you're an operator and
the government gave the stuff to you, that's one thing.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's one thing.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, Like I'll use whatever you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Give exactly, you know, and if it breaks, oh well,
the government's gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Just you know, turn that shit in and get another set, exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But if the ships hit the fan, you know, you
want something that's reliable and something that's not gonna break
the bank.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
If oh god, it broke, now what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah? So it's actually funny that you bring up reliability.
My dad bought Gin two night vision back good Night.
I'm talking about probably like nineteen ninety nine, and they
were basically a binocular set. It had like a two
(07:46):
time or three time magnification. I don't remember what he
paid for him, honestly, God, I can't tell you. But
those damn things worked up until like three years ago.
I mean you're talking about they had a life span
of twenty years, right, and I would use them, yeah, dude,
And I would use them all the time, like out back,
you know, looking out in the freaking woods and shit
(08:07):
to see you know, the dogs start freaking out, I
want to go around. Yeah, and I'd whip them out
and you'd hit the button and you could hear them.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
They would hum.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh he's right there.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, I mean, like no joke, dude, they actually hummed.
And then if you know, you want to turn on
the illuminator because there was no I mean, you might
as well be freaking holding up a red spotlight on
your forehead, like, let's be honest. But for what they were,
they worked right, and they lasted, like I said, twenty
three years, twenty years. That's cool, Yeah, they lasted a
(08:40):
really long time and I I was probably a really
shitty MBG owner at that point. I left the batteries
in them all the time, never took him out. Like
that's the first rule of MBG. Take the batteries out
when you're not using them. Yeah, and only use lithium
batteries by the way.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yes, actually get those little moisture packets that coming like
the beat tricky put them inside there, yeah, because uh
do the corrosion and yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Just destroys them him if they're.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Sitting in your house.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Flashlights, radios, same thing I mean, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I mean because I lost a decent uh set of
h G r ms several years back because I left
batteries in them and corroded the contacts, you know, toast gone.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, you know, they.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Don't have to be put in water. It's just a moisture.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
No, Yeah, it's just a moisture in the air. But
night vision is a complete game changer, whether you're using
it to role play with your friends, whether you're using
air bringing airsoft, you know, whether you're using it for
hunting or for like work purposes, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
If you're it would be a game changer too. If
you're a security guard talking about like a mad and having.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I can see at night and you can't. I see
you before you see me.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's object.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Like even if you don't have a whole helmet, just
do the handheld.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You know, your security guard, you're doing your rounds every
now and then at a certain spot, you stop, you
pick up, you scan around a little bit. You can
see some you know, two kids trying to or something
you know, or maybe you know two lovers over there, whatever,
you know.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But you can be an exhibitionist lawyer.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Actually ours record, yes.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
They do, and don't you also also have compasses on
them as well.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Right, I think it does. I just don't know how
to use it. I haven't played with it too much.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But it's got the record feature, which is cool. I
mean again, if you are training, let's say, you know,
for that training applications, so you could go back and
look at what you did and like, yeah, I screwed
up there, I did this percent.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I mean and you know this is again where everything
that you do that improves your ability, whether it be
night vision or IR or whatever, there's that whole other
side of it where someone is trying to figure out
how to defeat it. And you know, there are people
that are coming out with certain cameo patterns and certain
(11:22):
clothing treatments that don't show up as well under night vision.
That's same thing with IR because a lot of people
don't know. I I'm sorry for yeah, is that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
When people hear night vision, they think I are thermal
and just basically are all.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The same thing.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, not even close completely. No, Like literally, all night
vision does is it lets you see in the dark.
That is it. You can see whatever the spectrum of
light allows you to see. There is no more than that.
You are not going to see somebody's freaking predator thermal signature.
(12:05):
Like dude, that's not what it does. Un Orthless, you
get into the next level and that's freaking Thrombley.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
The digital is going to have the night vision and thermal,
so you can swap them like push of a button.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So actually Hallo Sun because Hall of a sudden came
out with their digital night vision rifle scope.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I don't know if he.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Does or not.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm not sure what he's got. But then they also
came up with a thermal scope like Basically, it's a
red dot. You flip up the cap on it and
then it projects the image on the inside of the capo. Yeah, dude,
like it's freaking wild. So anyways, actually they're not that bad, really, dude.
(12:55):
They're only like twenty five hundred bucks. Yeah, and they
hollos on yeah wow. And they are pretty solid from
everything I've seen. I don't own one, have never owned one,
have never claimed to own one, but everything I've seen
on them, dude, they are solid. So now I think
it's twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, Halli Sun is
(13:20):
wanting to do a night vision basically the same thing.
It is a night vision scope with a thermal overlay.
So up until this point, the only company I know
that has done that is Steiner Yeah, and I mean
anything that says Steiner on it. As soon as their
name hits it, dude, that shit's freaking five grand yeah,
(13:41):
like period. I mean their basic dual tube freaking knight
vision is like fifteen thousand dollars. Is it top quality? Absolutely?
Like you are probably not gonna find anything any better.
But at the same time, you're paying for the name, yeah,
and and the recognition and also the peace of mind
(14:02):
that if something that ever happens, you know, they'll they'll
help you take care of it, so that peace of mind,
you know, that.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Goes a long way.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, well, I mean, and see that's the thing. Even
with like your standard night vision tubes like mine I
got from TNBC ten your warranty, so yeah, I did.
I paid a pretty good amount of money for him.
But at the same time, within ten years, if anything happens,
they cover it after the ten year period. And I
didn't know this. After that ten year period, they don't
(14:32):
really pro rate. It's pretty much like, hey, you send
it back into us, we'll take a look at it,
we'll fix it, and we'll work it out. Is kind
of how Yeah yeah, So I mean it's and it's
not like if you bought night vision somewhere else and
send it to them, because they're gonna charge you full price,
of course, because it's actually theirs, they're gonna be like,
(14:55):
all right, we're gonna work with you a little bit. So,
like I said, that is a big thing too, if
you are going to spend the money on like actual
analog night vision thermals anything like that, anything that you
were fixing to drop a big old freaking stack of
money on. Get it from a reputable company. Y, yes,
(15:17):
find someone, Yeah, dude, don't do that, Like spend the
and you know what if you find one that's like
three thousand dollars, and you find one that's thirty two
hundred dollars, but the thirty two hundred dollars one is
made in America or assembled in America, and the company
is based in America. Ye, dude, spend that extra two
hundred bucks. It's two hundred bucks. Then in the long run,
(15:39):
I promise you, I promise you we'll pay for itself.
Because when you pick up the phone and call the
guy in freaking Utah and you're like, hey, bro, by
night vision doesn't work, he's gonna be like, cool, Bro,
I will send you a freaking RNA tag. Yeah, put
it in a box, send it back to me, and
I'll take a look at it. And you're not gonna
have to talk to freaking Bob over in India going
(16:01):
what can I do for you today?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
My name is Bob.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, your name is not Bob. Like, let's be honest, Bro,
I just got back off a cruise and everybody's name
on the boat was Bob Allen or Greg And I
promise you none of these people were born with said dang.
They weren't. Yeah, and that's probably why they were Like,
all right, what's your first four letters? Oh, your name
starts with A be cool your Bob? Yeah Bob. If
(16:25):
you're from Bangladesh, your name is Bob.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
One thing that you see in the movies is with
certain kinds of night vision, lights turn on and you're
washed out.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Okay, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
What is the cause of that? And how can you like? Mitigan?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So there are Basically how night vision works is the
photons off a light source, whether it be the moon,
a light, whatever it is, is processed through an image
intensifier in the two that then take it and it
illuminates it, brings it brighter to your eye whatever there are.
(17:06):
It's called thin film. And then there are autogated night vision,
basically autogated night vision.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It's like a mechanical pupil kind of.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, so autogated. Basically like if you shine a bright
light in my face on an autogated tube, the night
vision will actually turn itself down so it doesn't damage
damage to the internals. Thin filmed, right, Yeah, thin film
do you have to be a little more careful on
(17:38):
because the image quality is a little better on thin filmed,
but it's more sensitive, which is why you get the
better quality. There's a given take in both of them.
I mineor autogated. I would rather miss a little bit
(17:58):
here and there for the long jety of longevity of
my tube.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Now, the ones that we got, what does it have
what kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Like mitigation? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
They're digital? Yeah, they don't have to no yours because
they're digital. Yeah, yeah, which is yours are the way
y'alster is actually set up being digital tubes. I mean,
I can shine a flashlight right in the end of
it and it's not gonna hurt anything, because literally, dude,
all you're looking at when you look through that tube
(18:32):
is a screen. You're looking at a computer screen.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
His you're looking through a tube.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, right right, yeah, exactly like yours is basically for
digital night vision. To break it down super easy, digital
night vision is a camera and a screen that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And then the computer inside that converts the image.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I mean essentially, it basically handles like your brightness and
contrast for you when you get into like your analog
night vision, which the military, PBS fourteen's frigging PV thirty
one's all that other crap. That's when you get into
where it's like the electrons and the protons and all
(19:15):
this other shit are separated based on your intensifier tubes
and your listen. It's freaking wizardry. It really is, like
somebody way smarter than me figured this shit out, and
they did a great job.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Because I know someone out there is going to ask
the question knowing it's in no way legal. But theoretically,
could you drive you know, like let's say if you
were trying to go dark, yeah, dude, and but then
(19:49):
you turn a corner and truck with bright lights?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well see. And that's the benefit to the autogated or
the digital because like mine, they'll just dimmed down a
little bit. I can still see perfectly fine, Like I'm
not you know how you see in like the movies
and stuff where like the guy like flips on the
lights and he's like, oh my god, I can't. That's
not how freak autuigated works. Autigated literally dims it down
(20:13):
just a little bit. It prevents damage to your frigging
setup and to your eyes. Ye, digital does basically saything
like you said, you can see with yours digital in
the day. There are so many also things that you
can add to your analog night vision because you have
(20:34):
a problem with focus. Basically, you can see really far
away or you can see really close. There is no
in between, I mean unless you actually focus it. You
can buy a thing it's called an IRIS. You can
put that on your night vision. Basically, what that does
is that does away with all of that nonsense and
you can see everything. You can buy them. They're like
(20:56):
frigging two hundred and fifty bucks. You can make one
off Amazon, which I none and it costs like sixty
three dollars to make the whole damn thing. And literally,
because that's the problem with freaking analog is you can
see the trees way over there, but if I want
to look at the map in front of me, the
map is blurry right right. You put the IRIS on there,
(21:20):
and it basically does away with that depth perception problem.
I guess it makes a huge difference. Super cheap, you know,
and then you get into other like accessories and stuff
like your mounts and crap like that. Yeah. Yeah, if
you do a helmet melt it that's the thing. Yeah,
and dude, get a friging So most helmets come with
(21:42):
those little bungee cords on the side of them that
you see. Yeah, those are antibouc Those are not freaking
retention all right. Listen, if you put those freaking little
bungee cords, do not attach them directly to your night vision.
Attach them to your mount. Yeah. There is a great
company out what's his name, John Defresny. Yes, god dang,
(22:07):
I cannot remember the name of his company, right, don't
save my life. He makes this super awesome little thing.
It's called a NERD. It's a night vision something something
retention device.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
It's also safety device, so if your night vision comes
off your helmet.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Right, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, it's literally a piece of god dang elastic chord.
You can make it, really, yeah, No, you can make yeah,
like I said, but for what it costs. I mean
to buy it from him. I think it's like sixteen
bucks or twenty buckshun like that. It's literally a piece
of fringing elastic cord like two feet long. Yeah, and
it has a stupid little frigging not in it with
a little retention slide thing. In it and a piece
(22:45):
of outcrow slap it on top of your helmet, and
then you have this chord that way. If your night
vision does come lose, you're two hundred and fifty or
your ten thousand dollars investment exactly is not hitting the ground. Yeah,
because I will tell you now, I've had mine come off.
You hit walls, yeah, you run into shit. So the
(23:07):
only time I ever had mine come off, believe it
or not, I use a Neurotos Mount. I know a
lot of people run Wilcox Mounts. Wilcox Listen, if you've
got the money for Wilcox, please go buy it. They're
stupid expensive thing. Yeah across but the Narotoast Mount. The
one time I had my night vision come off, I
was going to stow it and I flipped it up
(23:30):
and I don't know if I hit the freaking lever
on it or what happened, but that dagun thing came
off the mount and next thing I know, I've got
my night vision hanging by that frigging stupid elastic bungee
cord like right next to my face. And I'm like, oh,
I'm like what I mean, I'm not gonna sit there
in Jack with it. So I just ripped it off
(23:51):
the top of my helmet and shoved it in my
freaking cargo pocket and carried on. But yeah, dude, that
is some scary shit because you're like, wait, my head
just moved. Where did my night vision go?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Oh my god, it's just off my helmet.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I guess the last question that I have.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I still have one of the old Gen one bottle
at Walmart for like a hundred of the handlds. The handhelds, right,
I mean, and again, it's better than nothing. If you're
out in the woods by yourself. It's not perfect. You
can only see maybe fifty sixty yards. It's not that far,
but it's kind of hazy and milky, but you can
(24:33):
see at least shapes. Yeah. But when I was using it,
when some of the other vets were here with their
expensive stuff, and I turned that thing on the ir
that it sends out a flashlight. It's so bright. They're
all like, turn that thing off, Oh yeah, you know so.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And that's the thing. A lot of the cheaper night vision,
because how do they make it cheaper? They take it
and instead of worrying about the intense fire tubes and
everything outside of it. They're like, bro, We'll just give
you a freaking brighter illuminator, right, okay, well that illuminator
to everyone else that has a little real that has
(25:17):
like either real night vision or a little bit better
night vision or whatever. Dude, it's like a freaking cubeam
Oh yeah, it's bright as shit. I mean if you
can look at the end of your night vision when
you turn it on, if you can look at it
and you see a red dot, that's a that is
I promise, Like when you see that through like a
(25:37):
set of envygs.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
That's like putting a flashlight in your face.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, it really is. It's freaking bright. It's like, hey,
look at me, guys, I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Over there right. So I mean again, if no, please
use those. So if you're using it for something like
you said, like going out to check.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The cap, bro, it's perfect. We're fine.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So I mean it's not you don't need stealth. No,
you're not worried about people seeing you.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Like I said, my old knight vision used to hum.
And it was not a quiet hum, like it was.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Like vibrator on your head. No, it is hum.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It was a hum. Not a vibration noise. God damn dude,
I can't take this guy nowhere.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I gotta give them a little funny here and there.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
But you know, then, I know we were talking about
talking about thermal too. Thermal is freaking crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Is literally like predator ship like that. Thermal is. So
that's where like night vision rocks because you can see
through glass. Thermal you cannot see through glass. You cannot
drive with thermal. You got good. You can't see ship.
You can't see through walls.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Now he sees the engine block coming at you.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, I mean, yes, there's a hot engine.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
There's a hot spot floating down the road.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, I mean. Thermal is super cool for certain things,
for certain things.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Well, we were out there at your ranch. Oh yeah,
and one of the guys had them on is.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, you can on the cowls and athing like I
don't even know they were there. It's wild. And that's
that is the advantage that thermal has overnight. But because yeah,
you know, if the cow is seeing perfectly still, you
might glance right past it and never even know it's there.
You got thermal. Guess what's gonna pop out right in
your face? The cow that's freaking one hundred yards away
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from you because here.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, yeah, fires whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But then again, that's the downfall of thermal is any
barrier between you and a target, there is no longer
a thermal signature.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Even one of those emergency blankets you can hide.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Dude, listen, I have seen so much ship I have
not done it, but I'm seeing talk now of over
in Ukraine, Russia all that other shit that's going on
over there where they're taking camouflage umbrellas, okay, and they
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are gluing the mylar blankets to the inside.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Of them so the drones can't see them, so.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
The drones can't see him, and you can't see them
with your eye because it's already God named camouflage. So
you're not having the issue of you know, this bright
silver or bright orange mylar blanket because it's cam oden.
And also now thermal can't see you either. And if
you place yourself properly under a canopy or behind a
couple layers of brush, so it's not you know, like
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this octagon or a square or whatever like that, bro,
you're covered. Dude, I can't even remember who the heck
it was on the podcast my Brain is Freaking Fried.
On one of the podcasts that I listened to actually
watch on YouTube, a guy did.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It was a Grand Thumb or was it Matt from
Demolition Ranch, I don't remember. He literally gave thermal to
his friends and say find me. Yeah, homeboy went and
did the Arnold Swartzenegger predator thing and mudded himself up. Really,
they could not find him. They were like fifteen feet
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from him, could not.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Hid I think I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
The only reason they found him was because the or
something was the dude's dog that he brought with him.
The dog literally like went to him like hey dad,
what's up? Okay, okay, And I'm like, you know, it's
funny to think that something so expensive and something so
technologically advanced can be defeated by something as simple as
(29:47):
what we were taught in the freaking eighties by Arnold
swartz or the nineties by Arnold Sarzenegger. But yeah, whatever,
thank you, thank you endless wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Now, the only thing that we've and we actually saw
this in that tragic Chopper airplane crash in DC, was.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Experiency.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But the point is is they do have a certain
field of view, a certain you know, your certain degree
field of view, so you do lose some.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Of your right well. So like that's the thing with
night vision. So any night vision tube that you get,
and I don't know about y'all's digital stuff, most of
your like analog stuff, it comes with like a little
I cup.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
All right, take that ship off.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Take it off, because if you leave that couple in there,
whatever eye you wear it on, which I recommend your
non dominant eye basically open anyway, right, but you lose
all your perfect vision out that side. Yeah, you have none.
You can't. And that's the same with night vision. Like,
if you buy it, use it, train with it, dude,
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take your dog on a god dang walk with it.
I don't care, yeah, because you will learn real quick
that there is no more looking out of the corner
of your friggin eye to see what the hell is
over there. You literally have to turn your whole goddang head. Yeah. Yeah,
But that little eye cup through that ship in the trash,
it does serve a purpose because it blocks a lot
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of the light from leaking out around your eye. If
you're camouflaging your face properly and using black on your eyes,
it'll absorb it and you won't have that glare. But
like I said, it's a night vision dude, there's a
big give and take with everything. So you take the
cup off so you can see that way like out
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of the corner of your eye a little bit, you know, movement,
because you're not gonna actually see what the hell is
there until you're.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Just something is there?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, But then you have like that light splash yeah
around your eyeball.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And it's not that bad because I mean the tube
is pretty close.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
So if you run your night vision right, yeah, you're right.
And I know a lot of people that do.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
They run their game but it's like two inches out
and I'm like, how are you looking through that?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah? Well, so I run mine actually pretty far out. Yeah,
I mean I don't run mine real close because I mean,
if you get hit in the face, it's gonna endup
hitting you an eye.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
They're gonna get shots.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, I run mine, you know, typically, like I want
to be able to put on like a pair of
safety glasses behind it and then still have a little
bit of space. Yeah, like I said, you'll end up
with a little bit of light spill if you don't
run the gain on your manual night vision, or even
your or your analog, and even on your probably on
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your digital. I haven't messed with y'alls enough to know yet,
but you don't have to run them wide open. And
in fact, if you do run them wide open, it's
probably gonna give you a headache from hell because it's
so bright, because you have one eye that's frigging dark. Yeah,
one eye that's frigging bright, and your brain doesn't know
what the hell to do with it. Yeah, dude, it will.
(33:09):
I'm going to tell you right now. When I first
got mine, I was like, oh, hell, I can see
in the dark. Dude, crank this bitch up, make it
even better. Yeah. You'll do that for about thirty minutes,
forty five minutes, and then your head will hurt so
god dang bad, you can't stand it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I guess last question, shooting with night vision, if you're
running optics of some kind, I mean, not if you're
doing iron sights, I mean that's you know, but if
you're running like a scope of some.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Kind, Yeah, how do you.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
It's hard? Yeah, it's hard. That's where you train, that's
where that's where I'll be the first person to tell you.
By night vision, learn how to use it, right, Okay,
buy your gun, learn how to use it. Then we
have to take the two of them that you've learned
how to use together and you make them together. Listen,
(33:58):
if you're gonna run night vision. There again, all of
a sudden, you can get purse stuff you can get now.
I'm here in this company, s MS Lasers makes a
pretty quality frigging product. I don't know you can get.
There are so many different brands. Steiner makes them, everybody
in the world makes them.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Sarge was telling me that one of his scopes will
actually compared to his nods and wherever his red dot
is shows up in his nod. He was telling me.
I'm I could be wrong, but this is what he
was I think this is what he was telling me.
And I was like, what, I.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Don't know if yeah, if it is, that's fringing round.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I'm had to ask him if that's right.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
But I'd have to look, and I would I actually
want to see him if that's the case. I want
to see that because that's fringing right. Yeah. But that's again,
that's where you have to learn how to use your lasers,
especially for like up close stuff, you know, inside fifty
yards one hundred yards. Ye, don't aim, dude, use your laser.
Freaking pop up on target, pull a couple of rounds,
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call it.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Gain where it goes.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
If you're wanting to get more precise than that, you're
out hit him. Yeah. If you're wanting to get more
precise in that into longer ranges than that, dude, buy
a clip one, buy an actual mount that mounts on
your rifle, and then take your freaking nods off of
your helmet and put on that mount. Use that. That
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works great. I know a lot of people that have
done that. I've shot five hundred and sixty five yards
with a three oh eight did an old boy hat.
It's phenomenal. It is like the coolest shit ever. Like
when you're shooting that bar and the boy had a
suppress three oh eight, Like cool. I'm like, what's your
hold on this gun? I've never sawt it before And
(35:50):
he's like, oh yeah, what I don't remember what he
told me, And I'm like, okay, cool. Bow dude is
pitch god dang blackoutside and your ding Like, dude, that
is like the wildest crap, ever, it is so cool.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So basically, it's a force multiplier everything and anything that
you can do, be it training or any little advance
in technology that you could put on your side against
the enemy, against the game that you're hunting, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
And if you're trying to figure out whether you want
high vision or not the easiest way.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
To do it, yes, ye, yeah you do want it.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
But before you go spend all that money to do it,
if you have a weapon mounted light on your pistol
or on your rifle or whatever your shotgun, run around
your house and actuate that and now just imagine that
that light actually isn't even there because the only person
that can see it is you, And you're gonna be like,
(36:59):
that's pretty little.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
There's nothing like the look on a home intruder's face
when all they see is a silhouette of a guy
in boxer shorts a helmet.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
You know what I am so I'm so happy. I'm
so happy you did not say a thong. I said
it for you. Don't worry. I got your dog, I
got you. I tried, I tried, but yeah, listen, I'm
gonna tell you it. No night vision is one of
them super cool things. You do not have a lot
of depth perception, but it's one of the things. If
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you get it, it's a huge force multiplier, like you
were talking about. But you have got to train with
it and got to learn how to use it, because
if not, you will fall over your own goddang feet.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It is.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
There is a huge learning curve involved.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
First time you run with it, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Just oh yeah, dude, the first time you ever put
that on your helmet or on your face and try
to run, you're gonna feel like a god dang absolute moron. Yeah.
I didn't want to say that work because well, you know,
I don't know, but there is a huge learning curve.
Buy it, do, take your dog for walks, anything you
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can do to get used to that feeling.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It's huge. Trying to stay out of your neighbor's yards
because they're gonna think you're.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Oh man, yeah, don't get shot. You know people, But
it is actually.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Three times bragification. I can see the Joneses from here.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Wow, I didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
We're not who said that? He who said that?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I said That's what I'm saying. That was the inside boys.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Did I say that out loud.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
See, folks, we keep it short, we keep it right
to the point right here on Blitzkrieg.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
We're gonna be doing these a lot more.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Actually, because of scheduling, we can't do them weekly like
we would like to. So what we're doing is we're
doing like two, three, four at a time, and then
we'll post them up weekly. So even though you know
we may sit here and do a marathon three or
four of them.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
That's all right. Ye's all right as long as the
people get the information. And please, folks, remember, if y'all
do have a question anything, please give us, please read.
I would say, give us a call, but hard email,
email us four radio dot com. There you go, but
please like reach out. I'll be happy to answer any
(39:38):
of the questions that y'all have or either one of
these guys. I've been earn a night vision now for
like five years, and then prior to that, like I said,
I was just using the old school binoculars. But anything
I can do to help any we'll be hard to help.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
If we don't have the answers, we'll figure out the answer.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I kept the inside voice in that time, Okay, my.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Lord, and of course, it's because I said anything y'all need, right,
that's God.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Anything to join the prepper group on Facebook, Saint Cloud
Prepping and Surviving.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Why because you could also ask your questions.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
There on the next but on the next blitzkreak. I'm
not talking folks. By the way, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Well, okay, my brothers, my sitters, remember please stay safe,
stay strapped, and never ever panic.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well
Welcome to Blitzkrieg number six. Yes, it is my self,
Bond's eye. We have ox and house and boo boo.
This is the Blitzkreg. What we do here is simple.
It is a short format thirty forty minutes, show one
topic without all the uh off topic fluff that well, well, there's.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Still a little bit Shenanigans. It's Shenanigan's light.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yes, yes, you don't have to listen to three hours
of US talk to get to the topic.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Tonight's topic is going to be night vision, you know,
infrared thermals, all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
That kind of stuff, anything that increases your ability ability
to see it at night in the dark, own the night. Yeah,
creature of the.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Some people, of course, says of the show already dropped the.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is it really that important to be able to see
you know, at night.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It's very important.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's a force multiplier, you know, I mean, because like
when it comes down to it, if there are batties
out there, if there are baddies, if there are batties
out there, you want to be able to see them
before they see you.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And there are so many other things that they're not
talking about, like the the new Age Batty term.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, no, not that, baddies, but there you know. So
it's funny before we get into this. Yeah, I've had
so many other uses for night vision and then for
ed thermalah for one. Yeah. Well, you know you've got
your hunting applications. You've got. I mean me, I use
mine when I go out at night. But I don't
want to scare the cowls. You know, we've got one
in like in labor, right, I don't want to scare
(01:44):
them with the flashlight. Bro, I slap my night vision on. Yeah, yeah,
they don't see it. I can be up within you know,
fifteen feet and then before they even realize I'm there. Yeah,
you know, help them, help them deliver a calf? What
there are multiple applications for every product that we talk
about on the show.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Role playing with the wife, dude.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I never thought about it. Great idea. Oh my lord,
leave the lights, Oh my lord.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Just helmet and boots. That's it. Stop.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Listen, hey, babe, I'll be home in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So, since you are a bit more of an expert
I'm new into the night vision field, I'll hand it
over to you right now. About the differences in price
that one single tube, dual tube some people.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That odds exactly God.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Call of duty and that you know, you get all
these you see all these crazy things and how crazy expensive.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh my lord, dude, it actually gets wild. I mean, yeah,
there are so many aspects once you get into the
night vision game. I mean, I know a couple of
y'all have like the uh the digital night vision that
you know is it's relatively inexpensive. And the funny part
is is it has come such a long way in
(03:06):
such a short period of time. I mean Psionics when
they first came out with their digital tubes, I mean
that was a game changer. And that's only been maybe
five years ago. You know, before that everything was analog.
You had, you know, your your L three tubes and
your Element tubes and everything else. And then here comes
(03:28):
Sionics on the scene and they're like, hey, guys, check
out what we can do digitally. And it was like wow,
and you did it at a quarter of the price
or even well, but see, that's what I was fixing
to get into too. Now that they have introduced that
on the scene, there are so many other people that
are coming out with it too as well. You know,
technically or typically you're like soonics tubes stuff like that,
(03:50):
you're finding their digital they run, you know, six hundred
to a thousand bucks. Dude, it is top notch quality.
I love it. I think I think it's really cool
what they've done, Like I said, in such a short
period of time.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Now, people that don't know, when they hear six hundred
one thousand, they think that's a lot. No, But when
you're looking at no, some of the you know, higher
gin like Analogus.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, so they.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Run three thousand, six thousand, fourteen thousand for some of
the quad.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Keep going once you get it, once you get up
into quads, I mean you're looking twenty four to twenty
five thirty five thousand dollars. Yeah, I mean I've crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But again professional Now you're talking about you're you are
a high speed operator and the government, the government gave it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, it's not yours. Yeah, it is not yours. You
have to turn that back in when you're all said
and done. Yeah, So like mine do. I run a
PVS fourteen little little monocular. Mine is a Gin three
hp plus so it has super high foam on it.
(05:00):
I mean, the clarity on it is it's great. It
is good, and I paid almost four thousand dollars for it,
and then, you know, it really freaking burns my butt
a little bit whenever you come over to the goddang
house and I know, but I'm sitting there and you're like, hey, dude,
(05:21):
check out my night vision And I was like, oh cool.
I pick it up and I look through it and
I'm like, wow, that's you know, it's really good. Yeah,
a digital tube. And I was like, how much was this?
You were like two hundred and fifty bucks. I'm like,
I freaking hate you, bro. Like now, given, you know,
there aren't given takes on both ends of that spectrum.
(05:44):
But you know, like I said, for the two hundred
and fifty dollars tube that you had and that you
have now bought, yeah they are for two hundred fifty bucks,
they're phenomenal. I mean, is it the end all be all? No?
But can you see in the dark? Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And it has magnification as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah. I mean here's the thing. I don't need it
to be perfect, no, I just need to be able
to in the dark without a flashlight see you before
you see me. I mean, you know, and like with
y'all's you know, there is a little bit of like delay,
like when you turn your head there and it's a
(06:29):
real is a minuscule amount of clipping. I mean it
is attention to it, right, No, Yeah, that's what I
was fixing it at. It's so fast. Yeah, I mean,
it's not even really that bad. You don't get that
with your freaking analog, which is cool, But listen, if
I'm going to destroy a set of freaking night Vision,
(06:50):
I would much rather destroy a freaking two hundred and
fifty dollars set than a four thousand dollars set, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
That's what I was thinking too, was I mean if
I mean, I mean, granted, if you're an operator and
the government gave the stuff to you, that's one thing.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's one thing.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, Like I'll use whatever you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Give exactly, you know, and if it breaks, oh well,
the government's gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Just you know, turn that shit in and get another set, exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But if the ships hit the fan, you know, you
want something that's reliable and something that's not gonna break
the bank.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
If oh god, it broke, now what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah? So it's actually funny that you bring up reliability.
My dad bought Gin two night vision back good Night.
I'm talking about probably like nineteen ninety nine, and they
were basically a binocular set. It had like a two
(07:46):
time or three time magnification. I don't remember what he
paid for him, honestly, God, I can't tell you. But
those damn things worked up until like three years ago.
I mean you're talking about they had a life span
of twenty years, right, and I would use them, yeah, dude,
And I would use them all the time, like out back,
you know, looking out in the freaking woods and shit
(08:07):
to see you know, the dogs start freaking out, I
want to go around. Yeah, and I'd whip them out
and you'd hit the button and you could hear them.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
They would hum.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh he's right there.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, I mean, like no joke, dude, they actually hummed.
And then if you know, you want to turn on
the illuminator because there was no I mean, you might
as well be freaking holding up a red spotlight on
your forehead, like, let's be honest. But for what they were,
they worked right, and they lasted, like I said, twenty
three years, twenty years. That's cool, Yeah, they lasted a
(08:40):
really long time and I I was probably a really
shitty MBG owner at that point. I left the batteries
in them all the time, never took him out. Like
that's the first rule of MBG. Take the batteries out
when you're not using them. Yeah, and only use lithium
batteries by the way.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yes, actually get those little moisture packets that coming like
the beat tricky put them inside there, yeah, because uh
do the corrosion and yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Just destroys them him if they're.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Sitting in your house.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Flashlights, radios, same thing I mean, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I mean because I lost a decent uh set of
h G r ms several years back because I left
batteries in them and corroded the contacts, you know, toast gone.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, you know, they.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Don't have to be put in water. It's just a moisture.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
No, Yeah, it's just a moisture in the air. But
night vision is a complete game changer, whether you're using
it to role play with your friends, whether you're using
air bringing airsoft, you know, whether you're using it for
hunting or for like work purposes, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
If you're it would be a game changer too. If
you're a security guard talking about like a mad and having.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I can see at night and you can't. I see
you before you see me.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's object.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Like even if you don't have a whole helmet, just
do the handheld.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You know, your security guard, you're doing your rounds every
now and then at a certain spot, you stop, you
pick up, you scan around a little bit. You can
see some you know, two kids trying to or something
you know, or maybe you know two lovers over there, whatever,
you know.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But you can be an exhibitionist lawyer.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Actually ours record, yes.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
They do, and don't you also also have compasses on
them as well.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Right, I think it does. I just don't know how
to use it. I haven't played with it too much.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But it's got the record feature, which is cool. I
mean again, if you are training, let's say, you know,
for that training applications, so you could go back and
look at what you did and like, yeah, I screwed
up there, I did this percent.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I mean and you know this is again where everything
that you do that improves your ability, whether it be
night vision or IR or whatever, there's that whole other
side of it where someone is trying to figure out
how to defeat it. And you know, there are people
that are coming out with certain cameo patterns and certain
(11:22):
clothing treatments that don't show up as well under night vision.
That's same thing with IR because a lot of people
don't know. I I'm sorry for yeah, is that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
When people hear night vision, they think I are thermal
and just basically are all.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The same thing.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, not even close completely. No, Like literally, all night
vision does is it lets you see in the dark.
That is it. You can see whatever the spectrum of
light allows you to see. There is no more than that.
You are not going to see somebody's freaking predator thermal signature.
(12:05):
Like dude, that's not what it does. Un Orthless, you
get into the next level and that's freaking Thrombley.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
The digital is going to have the night vision and thermal,
so you can swap them like push of a button.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So actually Hallo Sun because Hall of a sudden came
out with their digital night vision rifle scope.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I don't know if he.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Does or not.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm not sure what he's got. But then they also
came up with a thermal scope like Basically, it's a
red dot. You flip up the cap on it and
then it projects the image on the inside of the capo. Yeah, dude,
like it's freaking wild. So anyways, actually they're not that bad, really, dude.
(12:55):
They're only like twenty five hundred bucks. Yeah, and they
hollos on yeah wow. And they are pretty solid from
everything I've seen. I don't own one, have never owned one,
have never claimed to own one, but everything I've seen
on them, dude, they are solid. So now I think
it's twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, Halli Sun is
(13:20):
wanting to do a night vision basically the same thing.
It is a night vision scope with a thermal overlay.
So up until this point, the only company I know
that has done that is Steiner Yeah, and I mean
anything that says Steiner on it. As soon as their
name hits it, dude, that shit's freaking five grand yeah,
(13:41):
like period. I mean their basic dual tube freaking knight
vision is like fifteen thousand dollars. Is it top quality? Absolutely?
Like you are probably not gonna find anything any better.
But at the same time, you're paying for the name, yeah,
and and the recognition and also the peace of mind
(14:02):
that if something that ever happens, you know, they'll they'll
help you take care of it, so that peace of mind,
you know, that.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Goes a long way.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, well, I mean, and see that's the thing. Even
with like your standard night vision tubes like mine I
got from TNBC ten your warranty, so yeah, I did.
I paid a pretty good amount of money for him.
But at the same time, within ten years, if anything happens,
they cover it after the ten year period. And I
didn't know this. After that ten year period, they don't
(14:32):
really pro rate. It's pretty much like, hey, you send
it back into us, we'll take a look at it,
we'll fix it, and we'll work it out. Is kind
of how Yeah yeah, So I mean it's and it's
not like if you bought night vision somewhere else and
send it to them, because they're gonna charge you full price,
of course, because it's actually theirs, they're gonna be like,
(14:55):
all right, we're gonna work with you a little bit. So,
like I said, that is a big thing too, if
you are going to spend the money on like actual
analog night vision thermals anything like that, anything that you
were fixing to drop a big old freaking stack of
money on. Get it from a reputable company. Y, yes,
(15:17):
find someone, Yeah, dude, don't do that, Like spend the
and you know what if you find one that's like
three thousand dollars, and you find one that's thirty two
hundred dollars, but the thirty two hundred dollars one is
made in America or assembled in America, and the company
is based in America. Ye, dude, spend that extra two
hundred bucks. It's two hundred bucks. Then in the long run,
(15:39):
I promise you, I promise you we'll pay for itself.
Because when you pick up the phone and call the
guy in freaking Utah and you're like, hey, bro, by
night vision doesn't work, he's gonna be like, cool, Bro,
I will send you a freaking RNA tag. Yeah, put
it in a box, send it back to me, and
I'll take a look at it. And you're not gonna
have to talk to freaking Bob over in India going
(16:01):
what can I do for you today?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
My name is Bob.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, your name is not Bob. Like, let's be honest, Bro,
I just got back off a cruise and everybody's name
on the boat was Bob Allen or Greg And I
promise you none of these people were born with said dang.
They weren't. Yeah, and that's probably why they were Like,
all right, what's your first four letters? Oh, your name
starts with A be cool your Bob? Yeah Bob. If
(16:25):
you're from Bangladesh, your name is Bob.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
One thing that you see in the movies is with
certain kinds of night vision, lights turn on and you're
washed out.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Okay, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
What is the cause of that? And how can you like? Mitigan?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So there are Basically how night vision works is the
photons off a light source, whether it be the moon,
a light, whatever it is, is processed through an image
intensifier in the two that then take it and it
illuminates it, brings it brighter to your eye whatever there are.
(17:06):
It's called thin film. And then there are autogated night vision,
basically autogated night vision.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It's like a mechanical pupil kind of.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, so autogated. Basically like if you shine a bright
light in my face on an autogated tube, the night
vision will actually turn itself down so it doesn't damage
damage to the internals. Thin filmed, right, Yeah, thin film
do you have to be a little more careful on
(17:38):
because the image quality is a little better on thin filmed,
but it's more sensitive, which is why you get the
better quality. There's a given take in both of them.
I mineor autogated. I would rather miss a little bit
(17:58):
here and there for the long jety of longevity of
my tube.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Now, the ones that we got, what does it have
what kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Like mitigation? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
They're digital? Yeah, they don't have to no yours because
they're digital. Yeah, yeah, which is yours are the way
y'alster is actually set up being digital tubes. I mean,
I can shine a flashlight right in the end of
it and it's not gonna hurt anything, because literally, dude,
all you're looking at when you look through that tube
(18:32):
is a screen. You're looking at a computer screen.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
His you're looking through a tube.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, right right, yeah, exactly like yours is basically for
digital night vision. To break it down super easy, digital
night vision is a camera and a screen that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And then the computer inside that converts the image.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I mean essentially, it basically handles like your brightness and
contrast for you when you get into like your analog
night vision, which the military, PBS fourteen's frigging PV thirty
one's all that other crap. That's when you get into
where it's like the electrons and the protons and all
(19:15):
this other shit are separated based on your intensifier tubes
and your listen. It's freaking wizardry. It really is, like
somebody way smarter than me figured this shit out, and
they did a great job.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Because I know someone out there is going to ask
the question knowing it's in no way legal. But theoretically,
could you drive you know, like let's say if you
were trying to go dark, yeah, dude, and but then
(19:49):
you turn a corner and truck with bright lights?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well see. And that's the benefit to the autogated or
the digital because like mine, they'll just dimmed down a
little bit. I can still see perfectly fine, Like I'm
not you know how you see in like the movies
and stuff where like the guy like flips on the
lights and he's like, oh my god, I can't. That's
not how freak autuigated works. Autigated literally dims it down
(20:13):
just a little bit. It prevents damage to your frigging
setup and to your eyes. Ye, digital does basically saything
like you said, you can see with yours digital in
the day. There are so many also things that you
can add to your analog night vision because you have
(20:34):
a problem with focus. Basically, you can see really far
away or you can see really close. There is no
in between, I mean unless you actually focus it. You
can buy a thing it's called an IRIS. You can
put that on your night vision. Basically, what that does
is that does away with all of that nonsense and
you can see everything. You can buy them. They're like
(20:56):
frigging two hundred and fifty bucks. You can make one
off Amazon, which I none and it costs like sixty
three dollars to make the whole damn thing. And literally,
because that's the problem with freaking analog is you can
see the trees way over there, but if I want
to look at the map in front of me, the
map is blurry right right. You put the IRIS on there,
(21:20):
and it basically does away with that depth perception problem.
I guess it makes a huge difference. Super cheap, you know,
and then you get into other like accessories and stuff
like your mounts and crap like that. Yeah. Yeah, if
you do a helmet melt it that's the thing. Yeah,
and dude, get a friging So most helmets come with
(21:42):
those little bungee cords on the side of them that
you see. Yeah, those are antibouc Those are not freaking
retention all right. Listen, if you put those freaking little
bungee cords, do not attach them directly to your night vision.
Attach them to your mount. Yeah. There is a great
company out what's his name, John Defresny. Yes, god dang,
(22:07):
I cannot remember the name of his company, right, don't
save my life. He makes this super awesome little thing.
It's called a NERD. It's a night vision something something
retention device.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
It's also safety device, so if your night vision comes
off your helmet.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Right, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, it's literally a piece of god dang elastic chord.
You can make it, really, yeah, No, you can make yeah,
like I said, but for what it costs. I mean
to buy it from him. I think it's like sixteen
bucks or twenty buckshun like that. It's literally a piece
of fringing elastic cord like two feet long. Yeah, and
it has a stupid little frigging not in it with
a little retention slide thing. In it and a piece
(22:45):
of outcrow slap it on top of your helmet, and
then you have this chord that way. If your night
vision does come lose, you're two hundred and fifty or
your ten thousand dollars investment exactly is not hitting the ground. Yeah,
because I will tell you now, I've had mine come off.
You hit walls, yeah, you run into shit. So the
(23:07):
only time I ever had mine come off, believe it
or not, I use a Neurotos Mount. I know a
lot of people run Wilcox Mounts. Wilcox Listen, if you've
got the money for Wilcox, please go buy it. They're
stupid expensive thing. Yeah across but the Narotoast Mount. The
one time I had my night vision come off, I
was going to stow it and I flipped it up
(23:30):
and I don't know if I hit the freaking lever
on it or what happened, but that dagun thing came
off the mount and next thing I know, I've got
my night vision hanging by that frigging stupid elastic bungee
cord like right next to my face. And I'm like, oh,
I'm like what I mean, I'm not gonna sit there
in Jack with it. So I just ripped it off
(23:51):
the top of my helmet and shoved it in my
freaking cargo pocket and carried on. But yeah, dude, that
is some scary shit because you're like, wait, my head
just moved. Where did my night vision go?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Oh my god, it's just off my helmet.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I guess the last question that I have.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I still have one of the old Gen one bottle
at Walmart for like a hundred of the handlds. The handhelds, right,
I mean, and again, it's better than nothing. If you're
out in the woods by yourself. It's not perfect. You
can only see maybe fifty sixty yards. It's not that far,
but it's kind of hazy and milky, but you can
(24:33):
see at least shapes. Yeah. But when I was using it,
when some of the other vets were here with their
expensive stuff, and I turned that thing on the ir
that it sends out a flashlight. It's so bright. They're
all like, turn that thing off, Oh yeah, you know so.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And that's the thing. A lot of the cheaper night vision,
because how do they make it cheaper? They take it
and instead of worrying about the intense fire tubes and
everything outside of it. They're like, bro, We'll just give
you a freaking brighter illuminator, right, okay, well that illuminator
to everyone else that has a little real that has
(25:17):
like either real night vision or a little bit better
night vision or whatever. Dude, it's like a freaking cubeam
Oh yeah, it's bright as shit. I mean if you
can look at the end of your night vision when
you turn it on, if you can look at it
and you see a red dot, that's a that is
I promise, Like when you see that through like a
(25:37):
set of envygs.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
That's like putting a flashlight in your face.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, it really is. It's freaking bright. It's like, hey,
look at me, guys, I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Over there right. So I mean again, if no, please
use those. So if you're using it for something like
you said, like going out to check.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The cap, bro, it's perfect. We're fine.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So I mean it's not you don't need stealth. No,
you're not worried about people seeing you.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Like I said, my old knight vision used to hum.
And it was not a quiet hum, like it was.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Like vibrator on your head. No, it is hum.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It was a hum. Not a vibration noise. God damn dude,
I can't take this guy nowhere.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I gotta give them a little funny here and there.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
But you know, then, I know we were talking about
talking about thermal too. Thermal is freaking crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Is literally like predator ship like that. Thermal is. So
that's where like night vision rocks because you can see
through glass. Thermal you cannot see through glass. You cannot
drive with thermal. You got good. You can't see ship.
You can't see through walls.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Now he sees the engine block coming at you.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, I mean, yes, there's a hot engine.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
There's a hot spot floating down the road.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, I mean. Thermal is super cool for certain things,
for certain things.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Well, we were out there at your ranch. Oh yeah,
and one of the guys had them on is.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, you can on the cowls and athing like I
don't even know they were there. It's wild. And that's
that is the advantage that thermal has overnight. But because yeah,
you know, if the cow is seeing perfectly still, you
might glance right past it and never even know it's there.
You got thermal. Guess what's gonna pop out right in
your face? The cow that's freaking one hundred yards away
(27:32):
from you because here.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, yeah, fires whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But then again, that's the downfall of thermal is any
barrier between you and a target, there is no longer
a thermal signature.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Even one of those emergency blankets you can hide.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Dude, listen, I have seen so much ship I have
not done it, but I'm seeing talk now of over
in Ukraine, Russia all that other shit that's going on
over there where they're taking camouflage umbrellas, okay, and they
(28:10):
are gluing the mylar blankets to the inside.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Of them so the drones can't see them, so.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
The drones can't see him, and you can't see them
with your eye because it's already God named camouflage. So
you're not having the issue of you know, this bright
silver or bright orange mylar blanket because it's cam oden.
And also now thermal can't see you either. And if
you place yourself properly under a canopy or behind a
couple layers of brush, so it's not you know, like
(28:38):
this octagon or a square or whatever like that, bro,
you're covered. Dude, I can't even remember who the heck
it was on the podcast my Brain is Freaking Fried.
On one of the podcasts that I listened to actually
watch on YouTube, a guy did.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It was a Grand Thumb or was it Matt from
Demolition Ranch, I don't remember. He literally gave thermal to
his friends and say find me. Yeah, homeboy went and
did the Arnold Swartzenegger predator thing and mudded himself up. Really,
they could not find him. They were like fifteen feet
(29:24):
from him, could not.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Hid I think I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
The only reason they found him was because the or
something was the dude's dog that he brought with him.
The dog literally like went to him like hey dad,
what's up? Okay, okay, And I'm like, you know, it's
funny to think that something so expensive and something so
technologically advanced can be defeated by something as simple as
(29:47):
what we were taught in the freaking eighties by Arnold
swartz or the nineties by Arnold Sarzenegger. But yeah, whatever,
thank you, thank you endless wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Now, the only thing that we've and we actually saw
this in that tragic Chopper airplane crash in DC, was.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Experiency.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But the point is is they do have a certain
field of view, a certain you know, your certain degree
field of view, so you do lose some.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Of your right well. So like that's the thing with
night vision. So any night vision tube that you get,
and I don't know about y'all's digital stuff, most of
your like analog stuff, it comes with like a little
I cup.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
All right, take that ship off.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Take it off, because if you leave that couple in there,
whatever eye you wear it on, which I recommend your
non dominant eye basically open anyway, right, but you lose
all your perfect vision out that side. Yeah, you have none.
You can't. And that's the same with night vision. Like,
if you buy it, use it, train with it, dude,
(31:07):
take your dog on a god dang walk with it.
I don't care, yeah, because you will learn real quick
that there is no more looking out of the corner
of your friggin eye to see what the hell is
over there. You literally have to turn your whole goddang head. Yeah. Yeah,
But that little eye cup through that ship in the trash,
it does serve a purpose because it blocks a lot
(31:29):
of the light from leaking out around your eye. If
you're camouflaging your face properly and using black on your eyes,
it'll absorb it and you won't have that glare. But
like I said, it's a night vision dude, there's a
big give and take with everything. So you take the
cup off so you can see that way like out
(31:50):
of the corner of your eye a little bit, you know, movement,
because you're not gonna actually see what the hell is
there until you're.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Just something is there?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, But then you have like that light splash yeah
around your eyeball.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And it's not that bad because I mean the tube
is pretty close.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
So if you run your night vision right, yeah, you're right.
And I know a lot of people that do.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
They run their game but it's like two inches out
and I'm like, how are you looking through that?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah? Well, so I run mine actually pretty far out. Yeah,
I mean I don't run mine real close because I mean,
if you get hit in the face, it's gonna endup
hitting you an eye.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
They're gonna get shots.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, I run mine, you know, typically, like I want
to be able to put on like a pair of
safety glasses behind it and then still have a little
bit of space. Yeah, like I said, you'll end up
with a little bit of light spill if you don't
run the gain on your manual night vision, or even
your or your analog, and even on your probably on
(32:49):
your digital. I haven't messed with y'alls enough to know yet,
but you don't have to run them wide open. And
in fact, if you do run them wide open, it's
probably gonna give you a headache from hell because it's
so bright, because you have one eye that's frigging dark. Yeah,
one eye that's frigging bright, and your brain doesn't know
what the hell to do with it. Yeah, dude, it will.
(33:09):
I'm going to tell you right now. When I first
got mine, I was like, oh, hell, I can see
in the dark. Dude, crank this bitch up, make it
even better. Yeah. You'll do that for about thirty minutes,
forty five minutes, and then your head will hurt so
god dang bad, you can't stand it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I guess last question, shooting with night vision, if you're
running optics of some kind, I mean, not if you're
doing iron sights, I mean that's you know, but if
you're running like a scope of some.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Kind, Yeah, how do you.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
It's hard? Yeah, it's hard. That's where you train, that's
where that's where I'll be the first person to tell you.
By night vision, learn how to use it, right, Okay,
buy your gun, learn how to use it. Then we
have to take the two of them that you've learned
how to use together and you make them together. Listen,
(33:58):
if you're gonna run night vision. There again, all of
a sudden, you can get purse stuff you can get now.
I'm here in this company, s MS Lasers makes a
pretty quality frigging product. I don't know you can get.
There are so many different brands. Steiner makes them, everybody
in the world makes them.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Sarge was telling me that one of his scopes will
actually compared to his nods and wherever his red dot
is shows up in his nod. He was telling me.
I'm I could be wrong, but this is what he
was I think this is what he was telling me.
And I was like, what, I.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Don't know if yeah, if it is, that's fringing round.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I'm had to ask him if that's right.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
But I'd have to look, and I would I actually
want to see him if that's the case. I want
to see that because that's fringing right. Yeah. But that's again,
that's where you have to learn how to use your lasers,
especially for like up close stuff, you know, inside fifty
yards one hundred yards. Ye, don't aim, dude, use your laser.
Freaking pop up on target, pull a couple of rounds,
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call it.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Gain where it goes.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
If you're wanting to get more precise than that, you're
out hit him. Yeah. If you're wanting to get more
precise in that into longer ranges than that, dude, buy
a clip one, buy an actual mount that mounts on
your rifle, and then take your freaking nods off of
your helmet and put on that mount. Use that. That
(35:30):
works great. I know a lot of people that have
done that. I've shot five hundred and sixty five yards
with a three oh eight did an old boy hat.
It's phenomenal. It is like the coolest shit ever. Like
when you're shooting that bar and the boy had a
suppress three oh eight, Like cool. I'm like, what's your
hold on this gun? I've never sawt it before And
(35:50):
he's like, oh yeah, what I don't remember what he
told me, And I'm like, okay, cool. Bow dude is
pitch god dang blackoutside and your ding Like, dude, that
is like the wildest crap, ever, it is so cool.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So basically, it's a force multiplier everything and anything that
you can do, be it training or any little advance
in technology that you could put on your side against
the enemy, against the game that you're hunting, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
And if you're trying to figure out whether you want
high vision or not the easiest way.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
To do it, yes, ye, yeah you do want it.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
But before you go spend all that money to do it,
if you have a weapon mounted light on your pistol
or on your rifle or whatever your shotgun, run around
your house and actuate that and now just imagine that
that light actually isn't even there because the only person
that can see it is you, And you're gonna be like,
(36:59):
that's pretty little.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
There's nothing like the look on a home intruder's face
when all they see is a silhouette of a guy
in boxer shorts a helmet.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
You know what I am so I'm so happy. I'm
so happy you did not say a thong. I said
it for you. Don't worry. I got your dog, I
got you. I tried, I tried, but yeah, listen, I'm
gonna tell you it. No night vision is one of
them super cool things. You do not have a lot
of depth perception, but it's one of the things. If
(37:34):
you get it, it's a huge force multiplier, like you
were talking about. But you have got to train with
it and got to learn how to use it, because
if not, you will fall over your own goddang feet.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It is.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
There is a huge learning curve involved.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
First time you run with it, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Just oh yeah, dude, the first time you ever put
that on your helmet or on your face and try
to run, you're gonna feel like a god dang absolute moron. Yeah.
I didn't want to say that work because well, you know,
I don't know, but there is a huge learning curve.
Buy it, do, take your dog for walks, anything you
(38:10):
can do to get used to that feeling.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It's huge. Trying to stay out of your neighbor's yards
because they're gonna think you're.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Oh man, yeah, don't get shot. You know people, But
it is actually.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Three times bragification. I can see the Joneses from here.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Wow, I didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
We're not who said that? He who said that?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I said That's what I'm saying. That was the inside boys.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Did I say that out loud.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
See, folks, we keep it short, we keep it right
to the point right here on Blitzkrieg.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
We're gonna be doing these a lot more.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Actually, because of scheduling, we can't do them weekly like
we would like to. So what we're doing is we're
doing like two, three, four at a time, and then
we'll post them up weekly. So even though you know
we may sit here and do a marathon three or
four of them.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
That's all right. Ye's all right as long as the
people get the information. And please, folks, remember, if y'all
do have a question anything, please give us, please read.
I would say, give us a call, but hard email,
email us four radio dot com. There you go, but
please like reach out. I'll be happy to answer any
(39:38):
of the questions that y'all have or either one of
these guys. I've been earn a night vision now for
like five years, and then prior to that, like I said,
I was just using the old school binoculars. But anything
I can do to help any we'll be hard to help.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
If we don't have the answers, we'll figure out the answer.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I kept the inside voice in that time, Okay, my.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Lord, and of course, it's because I said anything y'all need, right,
that's God.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Anything to join the prepper group on Facebook, Saint Cloud
Prepping and Surviving.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Why because you could also ask your questions.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
There on the next but on the next blitzkreak. I'm
not talking folks. By the way, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Well, okay, my brothers, my sitters, remember please stay safe,
stay strapped, and never ever panic.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well
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