August 10, 2025 • 38 mins
On episode #7 of Blitzkreig Banzai Ox and Booboo discuss Camo patterns, greyman theory and stealth.
It can be the difference between being seen or not both now and during SHTF and being seen/noticed might be a death sentence.
The Blitzkreig Podcast is a short form 30 to 60 min prepping/survival podcast brought to you from the minds that created The Banzai Prepping Podcast but which will focus on only one topic per episode, no news/politics or fluff. We do our best to not get side tracked and give you a more condensed meat and potatoes topic driven show. Still the fun of the Banzai Prepping Podcast just more focused.
Broadcasting right from the heart of central Fl deep in the Manor of Saint Cloud.
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It can be the difference between being seen or not both now and during SHTF and being seen/noticed might be a death sentence.
The Blitzkreig Podcast is a short form 30 to 60 min prepping/survival podcast brought to you from the minds that created The Banzai Prepping Podcast but which will focus on only one topic per episode, no news/politics or fluff. We do our best to not get side tracked and give you a more condensed meat and potatoes topic driven show. Still the fun of the Banzai Prepping Podcast just more focused.
Broadcasting right from the heart of central Fl deep in the Manor of Saint Cloud.
Tune in and share with your friends!
Listen on the following podcast platforms!
Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/banzai-prepping
iHeart: https://iheart.com/podcast/101740549
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKCpzZCFr3StiFzM9fSjJ
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh that one sounded bad.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome to Blitz. This is Blitzkrieg number seven seven. Yes,
what is blitz creeg my friends, Yes, it is seven seven.
What is blitz Creek. It is our short format show
where we deal with one topic, one specific topic only
without all the fluff on the sides, because you know,
(00:23):
sometimes you just don't need a fluffer.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
You always need a fluffer always.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And today it is myself Bonzi. We've got ox and
we have and we're gonna be talking about camouflage camo
patterns and not just the different colors but also different
styles of dress uses rural, urban, metro, wilderness, gray Man,
(00:52):
because the whole purpose of camo is what not be
seen or not be noticed, blend to blend in exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So I wasn't talking on this one. I told you,
Oh you're gonna have to talk no more. Sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
For those out there, Let's start with the different color
patterns of standard like military type cameras. Okay, what if
you look back World War two, it was just od green,
That's really, that's all they used. And in even in Korea,
they didn't start going into different patterns until Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, where they would do the woodland.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They did the woodland, and towards the end of Vietnam
they started experimenting with Tiger stripe.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, that sucked.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Tiger stripe was awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I love woodland and CP is my go to.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So then you start jumping forward and you started getting
things like well, I mean they stayed with the Woodland
and Tiger really all the way up until the late eighties,
early nineties. That's when they started doing the digital.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, the digital, which was I don't think.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It went to the digital until almost two thousand. Fuck
talking anyways, Okay, listen, I don't care, but I'm pretty
sure it was like I think it was like the
late nineties, early two thousands when they finally started issuing
the digital. Yeah, really it was. Yeah, it was really late.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
They were always with the woodland.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, dude, that freaking eighty one three. Yeah, but yeah,
that that pattern, it dude, it held up for a
long time and because it was a freaking good ass
pattern and.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It stand color and they're still like fresh, yeah, they're
not faded like the CPS.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
For some reason, they got like different colors, like yeah,
for other reasons.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But oh but no, I mean, so the standard like
woodland was they had three color. They had the the
and then they also had one that had was it
four colors or they added like a tan to it
almost I.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Don't remember, yes, like a desert.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I don't. Yeah, I mean I know they did the
same thing and that became the chocolate chip pattern or
the desert, but yeah, I don't. I don't know if
they ever did a four color I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I remember seeing that, and I mean that's here in
the States. Now if you look at other countries, Oh
my god, I got Germany, Switzerland, they got.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Freaking red and orange and everything else in there.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's so crazy because of the autumn colors when you
got the reds and the browns of the leaves.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But it's also because of the rock patterns. Yes, the
rocks add that whole different dynamic into it. And camo. Yeah,
it is to blend in, but it's also to break
up a pattern, right, So yeah, I mean you're blending in.
But if you can break up the silhouette of a person,
I mean, I don't give it if it takes freaking
reds or greens or freaking yellows pink. If you can
(04:00):
break up the silhouette. The silhouette is the noticeable thing
that you're trying to freaking eliminate.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Right, because you don't want to get seen or shot,
that's the whole thing. Or if you're dealing with animals
and you're hunting, you don't want the animals to see you,
so you try to break up the pattern so they
don't know that you're there.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Like, for instance, we've got feral.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Cats here, right ad feral cats.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, I haven't broken out the heavy artillery, you know,
because we have our cats here, you know, and they're
fixed and so on and so forth. But we didn't
mind feeding some of the feral cats at first. But
when we started getting into the twenties of them coming around.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
There was a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I know that one day when we were over here
and dude, you were like, oh, let's go feed the cats,
and I'm like, all right, cool, let's go. I'm like,
how many are there? Next thing, I know, dude, there's
cats breaking everywhere, and I'm like, holy crap, I think
I'm fixing it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So I finally had enough, you know, and I pulled
out the airsoft and it doesn't it's sticks, so you know,
it's not gonna hurt them, it's not going to kill them.
But it's just that it's just to tell them go away, please, yeah,
don't be here anymore. So like today, for instance, I
was tooling around in my multi cam after feeding the
(05:14):
animals and I was looking for this one in particularly
keeps coming around and he was out cold on the
palettes out back.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Dude, don't tell you shot him where I think you
shot him. No, you tried.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But Twitch, you know, he has a soft spot for
you know, for for like critters and stuff. And he
sees me, you know, raise it and he's.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Like, no, you're not. I'm like, hit her up on
full automatic. I say, I expect nothing less from you, exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Wow, this guy he's kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Ball with those stringing airsoft guns. Because the day when
I was over here and he let yeah, I know,
it left three big old welts on my side of
ear and my wife's goes, what are those from? And
I'm like, well, the story behind this one goes And
I told her and she's like, y'all are a bunch
of man children, And I'm like, I.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Had the same thing.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But I feel bad for Twitch because I got them
in the face with that little one white or the
like one that came out, And I'm like.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So, CAMO can help you not be seen either if
you're trying to hide and you don't want to be
seen because you don't want to get hurt, or if
you're trying to sneak up to do the hurting. It
works either way.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Or you just don't want people to know that you
carry a firearm or you know, yeah, no whatever, you know, yeah,
to protect yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well see, and that's where it goes more into a
gray man and stuff. But if you're if we're talking
about the standard colors and patterns. Now, now, once we
got into the digit can let's say around around the
year two thousand, I never liked it, and they stopped
using it so pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It was funny because though the Army came out with
the ACU, all right, that was the Army combat uniform.
The only thing it matched, I swear to god, was
like your grandmother's freaking nineteen sixty four couch. That was it. Bro.
If you fell.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Asleep cat and you were wearing and you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Were wearing that uniform, dude, your grandma will gravity to
see ye. Yeah, I mean she might have been half blind.
That's not the point, mar Pat. When the Marines came
out with it, they went to a lot darker.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Of a color palette that actually worked, that.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Was actually pretty freaking phenomenal in the woodland pattern. Dude,
I'm i am to this day. I'm the guy that says, hey,
if I'm picking a camera pattern for me and I'm
going on a man killing expedition, it's going to be
(08:03):
that I'm wearing Marpath. Yeah, I think it is. It
actually breaking works really well.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It'll also depend on the terrain because here in Florida
we've got dense woods, we've got open prairies. You know,
that's more of browns and green, yes, you know, not
anything really too dark. You've got the deep palmetto type stuff,
which the tiger stripe is much better for that. Yeah,
(08:31):
you know, because all.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
The way the pattern is laid out right exactly, so
depending just like I tell people when you're choosing what
weapons platform, what's the mission, what's the objective, what's the
theater that you're going to be in. But I mean, really,
if you want to find like an optimal and optimal
camera pattern, unless you're in a uniform, right situation where
(08:57):
people are in multi cams or marpad or eighty one
or whatever. Yeah, whatever the case may be. If you
want to know the optimal camera pattern for an area,
find your local hunter, true bro, like hundred.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Percent real Tree massio bro.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That stuff. I promise you, if it will keep your
pattern out of the optical realm of an animal, it
will work for freaking people. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, you see those memes all the time of it's
kind of like, you know, it's like, yeah, try and invade. Yeah,
and then you see a bunch of hunters, you can't
see them.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They're all like and then and they're like, oh, that
boy really ain't even wearing camouflage. He's got on his
freaking real Tree shirt that he bought back in like
nineteen eighty half freaking paid it out, and his overalls
and his Wolverine that he wore to work earlier that
day like less because yeah, like I was telling you earlier,
(09:59):
due I a guy that I swear to God, Homeboy
has killed more deer than anyone I have ever met
in my life. And when I'm talking about like the
number we're talking about in the three, four, five hundreds
of deer and this freaking dude. He would get awful work,
smelling like freaking gear oil, welding and everything else all
(10:20):
day long, stunk to high heaven like deodorant. That ship
was gone three hours ago. Dude would go out in
the goddang woods and nell a deer, and I'm like,
you'd be shooted deer. Yeah, yes, shoot it for those
sick and twisted individuals like Bonds, I guess shooted. Sorry, sorry,
(10:41):
but it really killed me because I'm like, bro, I've
got like real tree and mossy oak and all the
other crab and I got my frigging, you know, my
freaking non smell soap, and my frigging like little deer
in rot pads in the whole nine yards. Dude, homeboy
walk out in the dang woods. Next thing you know,
thirty minutes late, he's coming out dragging a deer by
the goddang tail. And I'm like, the freaking crap. You
(11:06):
spent like a dollar ninety seven to shoot that deer
in the face. Yeah, I've done spent like five hundred
bucks on all this freaking other bull crap I've got,
and I ain't seen a god dang deer yet. He's
pissed me off so bad.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Now, when you're talking about being hidden though, in the
situation of let's say the shit hits the fan, you know,
you've got to look at You're most likely not gonna
be out in the woods, realistically, You're gonna most likely
be in a town in a city. Yeah, you know,
something like that. So if you're in a small town, right,
(11:48):
and there's lots of hunters and you know, rednecks and
country folk and things like that, what's gonna be probably
the most common stuff. People are gonna be wearing jeans, flannel, cama,
masio tree, you know, all that kind of stuff, right,
So you're gonna want to dress similar to them, so
you blend in. You're not gonna be wearing business casual
(12:11):
because you're gonna stand out like a sore thump.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
By the same token, if you're in a more urban
metro area, you know, you show up looking like Paul Bunyan,
you know, well.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And that's where the whole gray man comes.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
In, Right, you're gonna stand out, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Don't really At that point, you're not trying to hide,
You're trying to blend area, right, You're trying to hide, right,
you don't want to be noticed. Yeah, I want to
blend it. I want to look just like the friggin
dude that's five steps behind me that way.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So you don't stand if I have to wear a.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Rainbow colors yeah, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, you're iniso during.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And you want brushed off. I'm not going to be
in San Francisco during.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Theoretically theoretically, right, let's theory for some reason, you don't
want to. For some reason, you're in San Francisco, right,
and the bad guys are after you, and there's a
pride parade going down the road. Well, guess what you're
gonna try and grab, maybe like you see like this guy,
you know he's excelling, you know, rainbow ponchos or whatever.
(13:26):
You know, you're gonna want to look like everyone else
to blend in. So when they start looking for you,
and they're looking for a guy that five minutes ago
they they knew like was wearing a pair of jeans
and a black T shirt. Now all of a sudden,
you've got this rainbow you know, parka on or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Harness and a doghood you know, boom or stuck to
your whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But you know, you try to blend in. So if
you're in a metro, you know you may want to
dress business casual to blend in with everyone else with
your forehead.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Wow, did you catch that on the like? Did cat?
I think it did? All right, I like it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I approve so, and that's the beauty of gray Man. So,
I mean, camo does have a place absolutely if you're
in a wilderness, if you're bugged out, if you are
doing a it's okay, shop it the fan because you know,
it is normally not you know, you wouldn't be doing
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some of the things that you would need to be doing.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So then let's put it this way. Camo serves the
purpose of actual camouflage. Let me let me fringing this.
Camouflage does the purpose of hiding you when you are
on the offensive. However, if you're on the defensive, sometimes
it is more necessary to blend in to the environment,
(15:01):
which camouflage does do that. But sometimes you have to
think outside the box to blend in properly.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, you know, and there's other extremes, you know, like
the full uh like Gillly suit right where you would
use stuff from around I'm not saying you have to
go buy some expensive suit, but if you're out there,
that's say, even if you are just in jeans and
a T shirt and hiking boots, but people are after
you for some reason, let's just say you can use
(15:29):
stuff around you to get you know, take some of
those branches, some of those leaves, Tuck it into your pockets.
If you have a hat, you know, like you're wearing
a ball cap, you know, put stuff around so you
can't blend into like where you are. That's why it's
also good if you have an eedc like we always
talk that you should have with you anyways.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Which that will be on an upcoming yes, blitz creen.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's that you would have like your little Camo face
paint thing with you so you could do certain things.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So can we talk about certain camo patterns. Yes, that
don't work like worth like at all. Because I'm gonna
tell you right now there are a couple that, yeah
they look Gucci and they had been brought to the
forefront here in the last couple of years. Yeah, they're
really not worth a crap. Tacticalol Yeah, they're TACTICALOL.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
No, don't be tactically.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Listen, black, an entire solid black outfit does not work anywhere.
It does not work in an urban setting. It does
not work in a freaking environmental like rural setting.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's a pitch blackout.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, there is nothing in nature that's actually black. Like,
if you're standing there in black and I'm scanning with
a flashlight and I scan something that is entirely freaking black,
that'll probably not black.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, And like we were like hello here, but.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You end up with like these people because you know
they see like the movies from like nineteen ninety eight
where like the Swat Team is dressed in black and
they've got black face paint on it. Listen, there is
nothing in nature that is actually black. No, nothing, just
like there's in nature. There is no such thing as
a natural hard line. There's not If you look at
(17:17):
a tree, a tree hasn't been to it. There is
nothing that is perfectly straight in nature. Another one that
falls into that category multi cam black. It's stupid, it's
expensive as crap, doesn't work. It doesn't work. I mean,
I'm not a huge fan of multi caam in the
(17:37):
first place. It does work, I mean, especially like here
in Florida. Yes, in the open area, multicam actually does work.
Multiicam tropic. I think it's a little too bright. I
mean unless you're in like the palmettos and stuff where
you have like the bright greens and stuff, I think
it's a little too bright.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
But the Florida cam or something like that the time.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Of the year. There are companies now that are doing
like area specific camo that they make. There's one it's
called floric Ham or something like that where yeah, oh dude,
and it is phenomenal where it literally and everything. Yeah,
and it's got a little fucking meth pipe in the
freaking fro. But no, there actually are some that you know,
(18:25):
it has like on the back of it and on
the sleeves, you know, like where it's like a burst
that looks like a palmetto frond. Dude, desk. Stuff is
freaking I don't know if y'all have ever used it.
Everything it is. Uh, there's a couple other outfitters that
have started to come out with it now, so the
price has kind of come down. It's still not cheap, right,
(18:47):
but I mean, like I said, when you look at
like cry Precision and they're likes just five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, well yeah, but I got it flame retarded. It's
anti ir.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Listen, bro, I'll buy eighteen pairs of pants and then
when these catch on fire, I'm just gonna take them
off and start a florest fire. Yeah, okay, Like I
don't give a crap unless I'm welding. F R. Yeah,
FR means nothing to me unless I'm welding. I don't care.
(19:21):
But you know, again, don't go by like cheap crap
because then, like, yeah, me and Boo were talking about
earlier is I went and bought a shirt. It's a
multikam combat shirt off Amazon, off of No dude, I
bought mine off t move. Yeah, he bought his off Amazon.
So as soon as I got it, I'm sitting there
(19:41):
and I'm like, dude, this the guy is going to
glow in the dark like it is not like it's
literally for me to come out. And I hung it
up on a hanger night vision boom, it doesn't glow.
I'm like, oh, no kidding. He told me he was, like, dude,
I hung mine up and looked at it, and he goes,
it looks I look like a fourth of July and
(20:02):
I'm like, no kidding, And honestly, god, I'm pretty sure
the ones that we have are the same freaking.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Shirt, which is weird.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Maybe it's the stuff that spray on them.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I don't know me neither. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
It's it's gone by by.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah. But there are camera patterns that, just in nature,
do not work. There are camera patterns that so what was.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It in the navy they had that that.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Like blue blue Yeah, you know, I was fixing the
same So okay, so unless you're in the water, dude,
come on. But but if you're in the water, you
want them to see you.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
How No, those guys can swim.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, those guys they.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Well yeah, when you're out in the middle of the
Atlantic Ocean. Yeah, and the and the aircraft carriers doing
twenty knots away from you, and you're like.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But you know, I remember seeing like cameo patterns where
it was like gray as blacks white stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It was like urban concrete ca Yeah, yeah, concrete.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And uh, dude, it works. It works good if you're
in an urban environment without a population.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Throws it off.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, And that was the thing. If you're in like
an urban environment where like there's no population, so there
is no like there's no storefronts, there is no other
bright colors. If you're literally against like a demolished building, perfect,
it's phenomenal, Like you can lay down next to the
(21:42):
rubble and I promise you you Yeah. But unless you
were in just an area that has been completely decimated, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well like you know Ukraine right now, uh Kharkiv. Yeah,
almost the entire city has been leveled.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
The few people that are still like living there are
living underground in basements and crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So a place like that, yeah, it would be it
would yeah, you would be met.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Now you've seen in some of the movies where they
take the gray Man thing to the next level, where
like it looks like a pile of trash. Yeah, oh yeah,
I know, but it's a sniper, but it looks like
bags of trash.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
And then all of a sudden you see the guy
stand up and it's.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like whoa where did he come from? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So yeah, so it's not all just about cam O Pattter.
You got to think of where you are, what your
mission is, what the theater is, and then use things
that are around you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And there go ahead.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Like one of our jump out cars was like a
beater car. Oh yeah, dark tanned windows. It looked like
one of like someone's wife is driving it, but would
jump on somebody.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean it was cool, yeah, because you want to
roll up without them going oh.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's a that's a cop.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah you know, I mean we would didn't wear our
vest or anything, blue jeans, t shirt, hats, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
When that goes to the whole next level of you know,
in terms of vehicles, if you want to be quote
unquote gray man, you know, oh, of course, it's awesome
to have the you know, badass truck, Mad Max whatever
blah blah blah. Looks awesome, and it maybe have the
awesome capabilities, but it's gonna stand out like a sore thump.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Like my damn Super U.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, I mean we're actually but in this area though,
the super is a perfect It really is.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, you know, I mean, because there's so many lesbians here,
it would just you know.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
But you likely know so much better about it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But like, honestly got the Super U. Your vehicles that
you drive, yeah, I mean they literally all are basically
you're hiding in plane sight because there are a whole
lot of themmers and stuff running around.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, the round suburbans.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah. No, Like I said, like we were talking about,
I wouldn't go get like a god nam h one
Alpha or anything, because that dude is gonna stand out
like a sore thumb. Everybody in their brother is gonna
see it.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Beautiful Bob deuce, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I mean we talked about that the other day.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
They're awesome, how beautiful. But people see that thing rolling in,
They're they're like, whoa, yeah you know.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
So another thing is putting stickers on your vehicle.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, like it's.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
You could pick that bi ot from. You know, they
know something, their law enforcement or a firefighter, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
They have guns, they know what school your kids go to,
rights an honoral student at blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But that's lice and plates.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But that's the thing too, is I always look at
it like when I pull in frigging a parking lot.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
My wife, dude, She's caught me doing this crap. So
many times. I'll pull in and I'm like I'll look
around and I look for freaking certain stickers in R
A G O A friggin sig, sour glock whatever, freaking stickers,
Because I can promise you, homeboy that has his back
window covered in fucking stickers.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
He's carrying.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I can promise you he's carrying. And there's probably two
or three in his car. And I know if shit
goes sideways and I run dry, guess where I'm going
his truck. Sorry about your freaking window, Bro, who cares?
But I just raided your shit. But that's the thing
gray Man. That is not gray Man, No, not at all. Like, dude,
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if you are in Hawaii and you will show up
in a pair of five eleven freaking pants and five
eleven shoes and a five eleven goddang shirt even though
it says practical on it, Bro, you are not Gray Man.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
No, you're telling you a story, bro, unless.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You've got on a god dang tropical Hawaiian print frigging
shirt like Bond's Eye literally look like a god dang tourist.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Dude, your job SPEC's shirt theater day at his party,
Like I didn't like, I looked at it cool, you
know it's a tropical shirt.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But then Otter he was like, did you see his
Specs shirt? And I'm like, yeah, I seen his you know,
flowers and whatever. It's tropical in a tropical party whatever
it was. He's like, no, did you really look at it?
I was like no, He's like, look at it.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's cool.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I'm like, all right, I go look at it. It's
like there's a rifle in there. There's some skull.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I'm like, that is cool. Yeah, Like I didn't even
realize it.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And mine was, uh, you know Hawaiian tropical shirt. Yeah,
but with like raptors.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, I also have one of like venom, and but
if you just look at it quickly, it just looks
like some you don't want. But oh wow, that's venom
all over the front.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
But I mean that's the thing is I mean, yes,
there is the whole point of hiding, but there's also
a point where actually standing out and bidding in is beneficial.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You just have to know what your theater is, what
the mission is, what the area is like.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And don't buy multi cam black because it's fucking stupid. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I mean we dressed like Gaster fit in.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean I dress you know, concert shirts most of
the time. You know, I do wear quote unquote tactical pants.
But that's because they're so damn comfortable. Yeah, you know,
and they got the pockets. I mean, when I can hide,
you can't even see anything. And I pull this monstrosity
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out of my body.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Why do you have that in your gutting pocket? It's
black and it's got like amount of girth to it.
He actually showed me great freaking style. Is that sog
no dude? Anyways?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So but yeah, so, I mean, you know, like you
can hide so much. And again that's the whole controversy
of concealed carry or open carry. You know, now, if
Florida eventually does become an open carry.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
State, that might be fixing to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I know, you know, I know the pros and cons,
you know, Like you know, now, I personally prefer concealed
carry because I don't want people to know what I have,
so because it makes you a target.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, an open carry state and being a law enforcement
officer walking to a store, like a you get behind
somebody and they got this like big like desert eagle
fifty cars. Yeah, I'm like, I asked the guy, I'm like,
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what are you gonna do with that? He's like, I
don't know, it's just for my safety. You know, when
you got to pull that thing out and pull that trigger,
it's because that's a fucking cannon. D Yeah, And he's
like it's a cannon. I'm like, dude, I was like,
I got a nine.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Understand, I can hate you like five times with my nine.
But before you get off your second round.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah yeah, I was like, it looks cool man, you know,
all power to you.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
The other you know, but the real problem with open
carry is people can steal. I mean, you know, if
you've got the second retention, and but how many times
have you seen on video the guy comes up behind you.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
We can all get through one and two easy, yeah,
because we.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
All because we all use it right, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
So personally I prefer concealed, but I would not mind
the option.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's like, let's say we're coming from training and I
want to run into seven eleven real quick, you know,
and I don't feel like, you know, taking every enough.
If I'm just gonna run in the gas station real
good and like run out, you know, that makes it
easier or the problem that.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
We used to have is now we have a certain
licensing that allows us to do.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Said anyway exactly that that is true to thank you Ducky,
but my man Ducky.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But also the problem that we used to have here
in Florida where we had concealed we didn't have open
but if the wind blew and your shirt flapped and
someone saw it, even if it was accidental, ooh, you're brandishing,
and you could get in big trouble. They fixed that now,
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I mean, they finally fixed that to where if it's
obvious it was you weren't brandishing. So you're bending over
to pick something up and.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
It shows out your pulling your weapon out of the
holster or showing it as somebody, or showing them that
you have that weapon towards them.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It has happened.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Wheah, that's bullshit, but it has happened.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Where it's like the guy has bent over to pick
something up and it shows and the cops nailed him for.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
That is crap.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
But it got fixed. It finally got fixed after years
a right, so now you know you don't have to
worry about it. That's why I mean, when that was
still an issue, that's why I didn't carry on me
like that. I carried in my in my sling bag.
Now I carry it on me normally because I just
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didn't want to take the chance of because you know,
the all the legal but also since I am a
member of law Shield, which I have been for my
god about eight years now, I think you know which
they also help you with that kind of study, you know.
I mean there are other ones out there, you know,
I mean there's what, uh, the attorneys on retainers.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Law is the best.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
No, it is because they protect you if you're on
the job to No other company will do that because
they don't want that liability.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So I think we should start our own security company.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Still, I'll work for you.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
We'll have to see like what all goes into it.
But let's get back to Let's get back to because
we're like going way off.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
The Yeah, I told you.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, the reason why we went to guns was because
of you know, Graham, and it's exactly not showing that
you're carrying.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's where sometimes also camouflage also falls into the kit
that you have to carry. I mean sometimes you cannot
carry rifles. Yeah, Sometimes you can't carry an a r
Sometimes you are limited to strictly a handgun or a
U P d W or something like that. That is
also camouflage. Believe it or not, I mean, yes, it
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is super offensive and you know, sometimes you just gotta
get down and dirty briefcase listen, Yes, with the goddam
h and k M P five in it.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Hey, I mean it worked phenomenal, amazing, But that was
the whole gray Man theory.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Like Homeboy is not carrying a gun, He's carrying a
freaking briefcase. What threat is he to me?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He's not until you realize he's a badass, like s
a s freaking operative, like Christian Craighead that is carrying
some freaking crazy ass ship.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
One of the best Antonio Antonio bandetas.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh god dang, you.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Remember all the different ways that they hid all their
guns in the guitar case and all the different things.
You know that one the freaking rocket lodger in the
I mean that is gray Man to the next.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Live that's that is man. Because the guy that was
actually looking was not paying attention. Homeboy had a blind
eye to you that day.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Okay, folks, So what have we learned today? We have
learned that there are many different camel patterns. Some work,
some don't.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Some and sometimes camouflage aren't even.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Necessary exactly, Just be gray man, don't stand out, blend in,
look like everybody else, and they won't notice you as
you're doing whatever you're trying to do, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Subversely, so like the veterans saying that went out like
uh oh yeah, the stuff I wears grunt style and
you know nine line.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
And all that.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Mine mine's nine line.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yeah, mine's ground style. Stop barning that stuff. Yeah, I'm
just being serious, like they're out to get us, so
you know I'm not going to me either, Let's get it.
I know most of the veterans are, you know, most
of us are. But it's like if if you're with
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your family and you don't want.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That, yeah, because you don't want to bring your family
into something. Thank you, folks. This has been another great
episode of litz Greek. I hope that some of the
stuff that we've talked about has helped you on your
prepping journey, because again, what are we preparing for? Who knows?
I mean, it could be full blown at the fan,
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it could be just something minor something stupid. It be
something for your job, even you know where you're carrying
a bunch of money for your job because you're going
from the office to the bank. Yeah, you want to
not stand out that you're carrying one hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
By the way, Uh, you do not have to have
a CCW for that. Even when Florida had a CCW,
which now it's whatever better to get if you are
carrying an absurd amount of money going to or from
a bank, you did not have to have a CCW.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
No before the permit. Yeah, yeah, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, you did not have to have a permit for that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Not that I've ever carried large sums of money, but
we are going to get I've carried huge sacks though.
Oh okay, don't get folks. Check out and join the
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Email us anytime, bonziem for you dot com with your
questions and your comments. What is your favorite rich camouflage
pattern that you wear and why I can tell us?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
What is cp CP like the what we were now?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
What is it o CP? Yeah, it's like almost like multiicam,
but it's on a instead of a vertical, it's like
a horizontal or some ship. What's yours, dude, we didn't
talk about this. What's your favorite carmoflage?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Honestly, it would have to be the darker multi cam,
not the tropical one, the one that's like darker that
they have now.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
To Yeah, that's what which is what we use for.
I think my favorite one is still, Honest to god, dude,
I think it's markat pretty solid pattern. It is it
is in the woods.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
But okay, guys, thank you for tuning in, and remember
stay safe, stay strapped, and never ever panic.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It's dangerous. S
Oh that one sounded bad.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome to Blitz. This is Blitzkrieg number seven seven. Yes,
what is blitz creeg my friends, Yes, it is seven seven.
What is blitz Creek. It is our short format show
where we deal with one topic, one specific topic only
without all the fluff on the sides, because you know,
(00:23):
sometimes you just don't need a fluffer.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
You always need a fluffer always.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And today it is myself Bonzi. We've got ox and
we have and we're gonna be talking about camouflage camo
patterns and not just the different colors but also different
styles of dress uses rural, urban, metro, wilderness, gray Man,
(00:52):
because the whole purpose of camo is what not be
seen or not be noticed, blend to blend in exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So I wasn't talking on this one. I told you,
Oh you're gonna have to talk no more. Sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
For those out there, Let's start with the different color
patterns of standard like military type cameras. Okay, what if
you look back World War two, it was just od green,
That's really, that's all they used. And in even in Korea,
they didn't start going into different patterns until Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, where they would do the woodland.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They did the woodland, and towards the end of Vietnam
they started experimenting with Tiger stripe.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, that sucked.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Tiger stripe was awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I love woodland and CP is my go to.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So then you start jumping forward and you started getting
things like well, I mean they stayed with the Woodland
and Tiger really all the way up until the late eighties,
early nineties. That's when they started doing the digital.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, the digital, which was I don't think.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It went to the digital until almost two thousand. Fuck
talking anyways, Okay, listen, I don't care, but I'm pretty
sure it was like I think it was like the
late nineties, early two thousands when they finally started issuing
the digital. Yeah, really it was. Yeah, it was really late.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
They were always with the woodland.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, dude, that freaking eighty one three. Yeah, but yeah,
that that pattern, it dude, it held up for a
long time and because it was a freaking good ass
pattern and.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It stand color and they're still like fresh, yeah, they're
not faded like the CPS.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
For some reason, they got like different colors, like yeah,
for other reasons.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But oh but no, I mean, so the standard like
woodland was they had three color. They had the the
and then they also had one that had was it
four colors or they added like a tan to it
almost I.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Don't remember, yes, like a desert.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I don't. Yeah, I mean I know they did the
same thing and that became the chocolate chip pattern or
the desert, but yeah, I don't. I don't know if
they ever did a four color I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I remember seeing that, and I mean that's here in
the States. Now if you look at other countries, Oh
my god, I got Germany, Switzerland, they got.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Freaking red and orange and everything else in there.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's so crazy because of the autumn colors when you
got the reds and the browns of the leaves.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But it's also because of the rock patterns. Yes, the
rocks add that whole different dynamic into it. And camo. Yeah,
it is to blend in, but it's also to break
up a pattern, right, So yeah, I mean you're blending in.
But if you can break up the silhouette of a person,
I mean, I don't give it if it takes freaking
reds or greens or freaking yellows pink. If you can
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break up the silhouette. The silhouette is the noticeable thing
that you're trying to freaking eliminate.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Right, because you don't want to get seen or shot,
that's the whole thing. Or if you're dealing with animals
and you're hunting, you don't want the animals to see you,
so you try to break up the pattern so they
don't know that you're there.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Like, for instance, we've got feral.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Cats here, right ad feral cats.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, I haven't broken out the heavy artillery, you know,
because we have our cats here, you know, and they're
fixed and so on and so forth. But we didn't
mind feeding some of the feral cats at first. But
when we started getting into the twenties of them coming around.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
There was a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I know that one day when we were over here
and dude, you were like, oh, let's go feed the cats,
and I'm like, all right, cool, let's go. I'm like,
how many are there? Next thing, I know, dude, there's
cats breaking everywhere, and I'm like, holy crap, I think
I'm fixing it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So I finally had enough, you know, and I pulled
out the airsoft and it doesn't it's sticks, so you know,
it's not gonna hurt them, it's not going to kill them.
But it's just that it's just to tell them go away, please, yeah,
don't be here anymore. So like today, for instance, I
was tooling around in my multi cam after feeding the
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animals and I was looking for this one in particularly
keeps coming around and he was out cold on the
palettes out back.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Dude, don't tell you shot him where I think you
shot him. No, you tried.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But Twitch, you know, he has a soft spot for
you know, for for like critters and stuff. And he
sees me, you know, raise it and he's.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Like, no, you're not. I'm like, hit her up on
full automatic. I say, I expect nothing less from you, exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Wow, this guy he's kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Ball with those stringing airsoft guns. Because the day when
I was over here and he let yeah, I know,
it left three big old welts on my side of
ear and my wife's goes, what are those from? And
I'm like, well, the story behind this one goes And
I told her and she's like, y'all are a bunch
of man children, And I'm like, I.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Had the same thing.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But I feel bad for Twitch because I got them
in the face with that little one white or the
like one that came out, And I'm like.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So, CAMO can help you not be seen either if
you're trying to hide and you don't want to be
seen because you don't want to get hurt, or if
you're trying to sneak up to do the hurting. It
works either way.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Or you just don't want people to know that you
carry a firearm or you know, yeah, no whatever, you know, yeah,
to protect yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well see, and that's where it goes more into a
gray man and stuff. But if you're if we're talking
about the standard colors and patterns. Now, now, once we
got into the digit can let's say around around the
year two thousand, I never liked it, and they stopped
using it so pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It was funny because though the Army came out with
the ACU, all right, that was the Army combat uniform.
The only thing it matched, I swear to god, was
like your grandmother's freaking nineteen sixty four couch. That was it. Bro.
If you fell.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Asleep cat and you were wearing and you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Were wearing that uniform, dude, your grandma will gravity to
see ye. Yeah, I mean she might have been half blind.
That's not the point, mar Pat. When the Marines came
out with it, they went to a lot darker.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Of a color palette that actually worked, that.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Was actually pretty freaking phenomenal in the woodland pattern. Dude,
I'm i am to this day. I'm the guy that says, hey,
if I'm picking a camera pattern for me and I'm
going on a man killing expedition, it's going to be
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that I'm wearing Marpath. Yeah, I think it is. It
actually breaking works really well.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It'll also depend on the terrain because here in Florida
we've got dense woods, we've got open prairies. You know,
that's more of browns and green, yes, you know, not
anything really too dark. You've got the deep palmetto type stuff,
which the tiger stripe is much better for that. Yeah,
(08:31):
you know, because all.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
The way the pattern is laid out right exactly, so
depending just like I tell people when you're choosing what
weapons platform, what's the mission, what's the objective, what's the
theater that you're going to be in. But I mean, really,
if you want to find like an optimal and optimal
camera pattern, unless you're in a uniform, right situation where
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people are in multi cams or marpad or eighty one
or whatever. Yeah, whatever the case may be. If you
want to know the optimal camera pattern for an area,
find your local hunter, true bro, like hundred.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Percent real Tree massio bro.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That stuff. I promise you, if it will keep your
pattern out of the optical realm of an animal, it
will work for freaking people. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, you see those memes all the time of it's
kind of like, you know, it's like, yeah, try and invade. Yeah,
and then you see a bunch of hunters, you can't
see them.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They're all like and then and they're like, oh, that
boy really ain't even wearing camouflage. He's got on his
freaking real Tree shirt that he bought back in like
nineteen eighty half freaking paid it out, and his overalls
and his Wolverine that he wore to work earlier that
day like less because yeah, like I was telling you earlier,
(09:59):
due I a guy that I swear to God, Homeboy
has killed more deer than anyone I have ever met
in my life. And when I'm talking about like the
number we're talking about in the three, four, five hundreds
of deer and this freaking dude. He would get awful work,
smelling like freaking gear oil, welding and everything else all
(10:20):
day long, stunk to high heaven like deodorant. That ship
was gone three hours ago. Dude would go out in
the goddang woods and nell a deer, and I'm like,
you'd be shooted deer. Yeah, yes, shoot it for those
sick and twisted individuals like Bonds, I guess shooted. Sorry, sorry,
(10:41):
but it really killed me because I'm like, bro, I've
got like real tree and mossy oak and all the
other crab and I got my frigging, you know, my
freaking non smell soap, and my frigging like little deer
in rot pads in the whole nine yards. Dude, homeboy
walk out in the dang woods. Next thing you know,
thirty minutes late, he's coming out dragging a deer by
the goddang tail. And I'm like, the freaking crap. You
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spent like a dollar ninety seven to shoot that deer
in the face. Yeah, I've done spent like five hundred
bucks on all this freaking other bull crap I've got,
and I ain't seen a god dang deer yet. He's
pissed me off so bad.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Now, when you're talking about being hidden though, in the
situation of let's say the shit hits the fan, you know,
you've got to look at You're most likely not gonna
be out in the woods, realistically, You're gonna most likely
be in a town in a city. Yeah, you know,
something like that. So if you're in a small town, right,
(11:48):
and there's lots of hunters and you know, rednecks and
country folk and things like that, what's gonna be probably
the most common stuff. People are gonna be wearing jeans, flannel, cama,
masio tree, you know, all that kind of stuff, right,
So you're gonna want to dress similar to them, so
you blend in. You're not gonna be wearing business casual
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because you're gonna stand out like a sore thump.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
By the same token, if you're in a more urban
metro area, you know, you show up looking like Paul Bunyan,
you know, well.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And that's where the whole gray man comes.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
In, Right, you're gonna stand out, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Don't really At that point, you're not trying to hide,
You're trying to blend area, right, You're trying to hide, right,
you don't want to be noticed. Yeah, I want to
blend it. I want to look just like the friggin
dude that's five steps behind me that way.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So you don't stand if I have to wear a.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Rainbow colors yeah, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, you're iniso during.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And you want brushed off. I'm not going to be
in San Francisco during.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Theoretically theoretically, right, let's theory for some reason, you don't
want to. For some reason, you're in San Francisco, right,
and the bad guys are after you, and there's a
pride parade going down the road. Well, guess what you're
gonna try and grab, maybe like you see like this guy,
you know he's excelling, you know, rainbow ponchos or whatever.
(13:26):
You know, you're gonna want to look like everyone else
to blend in. So when they start looking for you,
and they're looking for a guy that five minutes ago
they they knew like was wearing a pair of jeans
and a black T shirt. Now all of a sudden,
you've got this rainbow you know, parka on or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Harness and a doghood you know, boom or stuck to
your whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But you know, you try to blend in. So if
you're in a metro, you know you may want to
dress business casual to blend in with everyone else with
your forehead.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Wow, did you catch that on the like? Did cat?
I think it did? All right, I like it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I approve so, and that's the beauty of gray Man. So,
I mean, camo does have a place absolutely if you're
in a wilderness, if you're bugged out, if you are
doing a it's okay, shop it the fan because you know,
it is normally not you know, you wouldn't be doing
(14:35):
some of the things that you would need to be doing.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So then let's put it this way. Camo serves the
purpose of actual camouflage. Let me let me fringing this.
Camouflage does the purpose of hiding you when you are
on the offensive. However, if you're on the defensive, sometimes
it is more necessary to blend in to the environment,
(15:01):
which camouflage does do that. But sometimes you have to
think outside the box to blend in properly.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, you know, and there's other extremes, you know, like
the full uh like Gillly suit right where you would
use stuff from around I'm not saying you have to
go buy some expensive suit, but if you're out there,
that's say, even if you are just in jeans and
a T shirt and hiking boots, but people are after
you for some reason, let's just say you can use
(15:29):
stuff around you to get you know, take some of
those branches, some of those leaves, Tuck it into your pockets.
If you have a hat, you know, like you're wearing
a ball cap, you know, put stuff around so you
can't blend into like where you are. That's why it's
also good if you have an eedc like we always
talk that you should have with you anyways.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Which that will be on an upcoming yes, blitz creen.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's that you would have like your little Camo face
paint thing with you so you could do certain things.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So can we talk about certain camo patterns. Yes, that
don't work like worth like at all. Because I'm gonna
tell you right now there are a couple that, yeah
they look Gucci and they had been brought to the
forefront here in the last couple of years. Yeah, they're
really not worth a crap. Tacticalol Yeah, they're TACTICALOL.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
No, don't be tactically.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Listen, black, an entire solid black outfit does not work anywhere.
It does not work in an urban setting. It does
not work in a freaking environmental like rural setting.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's a pitch blackout.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, there is nothing in nature that's actually black. Like,
if you're standing there in black and I'm scanning with
a flashlight and I scan something that is entirely freaking black,
that'll probably not black.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, And like we were like hello here, but.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You end up with like these people because you know
they see like the movies from like nineteen ninety eight
where like the Swat Team is dressed in black and
they've got black face paint on it. Listen, there is
nothing in nature that is actually black. No, nothing, just
like there's in nature. There is no such thing as
a natural hard line. There's not If you look at
(17:17):
a tree, a tree hasn't been to it. There is
nothing that is perfectly straight in nature. Another one that
falls into that category multi cam black. It's stupid, it's
expensive as crap, doesn't work. It doesn't work. I mean,
I'm not a huge fan of multi caam in the
(17:37):
first place. It does work, I mean, especially like here
in Florida. Yes, in the open area, multicam actually does work.
Multiicam tropic. I think it's a little too bright. I
mean unless you're in like the palmettos and stuff where
you have like the bright greens and stuff, I think
it's a little too bright.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
But the Florida cam or something like that the time.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Of the year. There are companies now that are doing
like area specific camo that they make. There's one it's
called floric Ham or something like that where yeah, oh dude,
and it is phenomenal where it literally and everything. Yeah,
and it's got a little fucking meth pipe in the
freaking fro. But no, there actually are some that you know,
(18:25):
it has like on the back of it and on
the sleeves, you know, like where it's like a burst
that looks like a palmetto frond. Dude, desk. Stuff is
freaking I don't know if y'all have ever used it.
Everything it is. Uh, there's a couple other outfitters that
have started to come out with it now, so the
price has kind of come down. It's still not cheap, right,
(18:47):
but I mean, like I said, when you look at
like cry Precision and they're likes just five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, well yeah, but I got it flame retarded. It's
anti ir.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Listen, bro, I'll buy eighteen pairs of pants and then
when these catch on fire, I'm just gonna take them
off and start a florest fire. Yeah, okay, Like I
don't give a crap unless I'm welding. F R. Yeah,
FR means nothing to me unless I'm welding. I don't care.
(19:21):
But you know, again, don't go by like cheap crap
because then, like, yeah, me and Boo were talking about
earlier is I went and bought a shirt. It's a
multikam combat shirt off Amazon, off of No dude, I
bought mine off t move. Yeah, he bought his off Amazon.
So as soon as I got it, I'm sitting there
(19:41):
and I'm like, dude, this the guy is going to
glow in the dark like it is not like it's
literally for me to come out. And I hung it
up on a hanger night vision boom, it doesn't glow.
I'm like, oh, no kidding. He told me he was, like, dude,
I hung mine up and looked at it, and he goes,
it looks I look like a fourth of July and
(20:02):
I'm like, no kidding, And honestly, god, I'm pretty sure
the ones that we have are the same freaking.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Shirt, which is weird.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Maybe it's the stuff that spray on them.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I don't know me neither. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
It's it's gone by by.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah. But there are camera patterns that, just in nature,
do not work. There are camera patterns that so what was.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It in the navy they had that that.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Like blue blue Yeah, you know, I was fixing the
same So okay, so unless you're in the water, dude,
come on. But but if you're in the water, you
want them to see you.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
How No, those guys can swim.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, those guys they.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Well yeah, when you're out in the middle of the
Atlantic Ocean. Yeah, and the and the aircraft carriers doing
twenty knots away from you, and you're like.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But you know, I remember seeing like cameo patterns where
it was like gray as blacks white stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It was like urban concrete ca Yeah, yeah, concrete.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And uh, dude, it works. It works good if you're
in an urban environment without a population.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Throws it off.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, And that was the thing. If you're in like
an urban environment where like there's no population, so there
is no like there's no storefronts, there is no other
bright colors. If you're literally against like a demolished building, perfect,
it's phenomenal, Like you can lay down next to the
(21:42):
rubble and I promise you you Yeah. But unless you
were in just an area that has been completely decimated, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well like you know Ukraine right now, uh Kharkiv. Yeah,
almost the entire city has been leveled.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
The few people that are still like living there are
living underground in basements and crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So a place like that, yeah, it would be it
would yeah, you would be met.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Now you've seen in some of the movies where they
take the gray Man thing to the next level, where
like it looks like a pile of trash. Yeah, oh yeah,
I know, but it's a sniper, but it looks like
bags of trash.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
And then all of a sudden you see the guy
stand up and it's.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like whoa where did he come from? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So yeah, so it's not all just about cam O Pattter.
You got to think of where you are, what your
mission is, what the theater is, and then use things
that are around you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And there go ahead.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Like one of our jump out cars was like a
beater car. Oh yeah, dark tanned windows. It looked like
one of like someone's wife is driving it, but would
jump on somebody.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean it was cool, yeah, because you want to
roll up without them going oh.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's a that's a cop.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah you know, I mean we would didn't wear our
vest or anything, blue jeans, t shirt, hats, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
When that goes to the whole next level of you know,
in terms of vehicles, if you want to be quote
unquote gray man, you know, oh, of course, it's awesome
to have the you know, badass truck, Mad Max whatever
blah blah blah. Looks awesome, and it maybe have the
awesome capabilities, but it's gonna stand out like a sore thump.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Like my damn Super U.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, I mean we're actually but in this area though,
the super is a perfect It really is.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, you know, I mean, because there's so many lesbians here,
it would just you know.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
But you likely know so much better about it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But like, honestly got the Super U. Your vehicles that
you drive, yeah, I mean they literally all are basically
you're hiding in plane sight because there are a whole
lot of themmers and stuff running around.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, the round suburbans.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah. No, Like I said, like we were talking about,
I wouldn't go get like a god nam h one
Alpha or anything, because that dude is gonna stand out
like a sore thumb. Everybody in their brother is gonna
see it.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Beautiful Bob deuce, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I mean we talked about that the other day.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
They're awesome, how beautiful. But people see that thing rolling in,
They're they're like, whoa, yeah you know.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
So another thing is putting stickers on your vehicle.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, like it's.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
You could pick that bi ot from. You know, they
know something, their law enforcement or a firefighter, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
They have guns, they know what school your kids go to,
rights an honoral student at blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But that's lice and plates.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But that's the thing too, is I always look at
it like when I pull in frigging a parking lot.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
My wife, dude, She's caught me doing this crap. So
many times. I'll pull in and I'm like I'll look
around and I look for freaking certain stickers in R
A G O A friggin sig, sour glock whatever, freaking stickers,
Because I can promise you, homeboy that has his back
window covered in fucking stickers.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
He's carrying.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I can promise you he's carrying. And there's probably two
or three in his car. And I know if shit
goes sideways and I run dry, guess where I'm going
his truck. Sorry about your freaking window, Bro, who cares?
But I just raided your shit. But that's the thing
gray Man. That is not gray Man, No, not at all. Like, dude,
(25:51):
if you are in Hawaii and you will show up
in a pair of five eleven freaking pants and five
eleven shoes and a five eleven goddang shirt even though
it says practical on it, Bro, you are not Gray Man.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
No, you're telling you a story, bro, unless.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You've got on a god dang tropical Hawaiian print frigging
shirt like Bond's Eye literally look like a god dang tourist.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Dude, your job SPEC's shirt theater day at his party,
Like I didn't like, I looked at it cool, you
know it's a tropical shirt.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But then Otter he was like, did you see his
Specs shirt? And I'm like, yeah, I seen his you know,
flowers and whatever. It's tropical in a tropical party whatever
it was. He's like, no, did you really look at it?
I was like no, He's like, look at it.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's cool.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I'm like, all right, I go look at it. It's
like there's a rifle in there. There's some skull.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I'm like, that is cool. Yeah, Like I didn't even
realize it.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And mine was, uh, you know Hawaiian tropical shirt. Yeah,
but with like raptors.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, I also have one of like venom, and but
if you just look at it quickly, it just looks
like some you don't want. But oh wow, that's venom
all over the front.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
But I mean that's the thing is I mean, yes,
there is the whole point of hiding, but there's also
a point where actually standing out and bidding in is beneficial.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You just have to know what your theater is, what
the mission is, what the area is like.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And don't buy multi cam black because it's fucking stupid. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I mean we dressed like Gaster fit in.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean I dress you know, concert shirts most of
the time. You know, I do wear quote unquote tactical pants.
But that's because they're so damn comfortable. Yeah, you know,
and they got the pockets. I mean, when I can hide,
you can't even see anything. And I pull this monstrosity
(27:52):
out of my body.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Why do you have that in your gutting pocket? It's
black and it's got like amount of girth to it.
He actually showed me great freaking style. Is that sog
no dude? Anyways?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So but yeah, so, I mean, you know, like you
can hide so much. And again that's the whole controversy
of concealed carry or open carry. You know, now, if
Florida eventually does become an open carry.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
State, that might be fixing to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I know, you know, I know the pros and cons,
you know, Like you know, now, I personally prefer concealed
carry because I don't want people to know what I have,
so because it makes you a target.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, an open carry state and being a law enforcement
officer walking to a store, like a you get behind
somebody and they got this like big like desert eagle
fifty cars. Yeah, I'm like, I asked the guy, I'm like,
(29:06):
what are you gonna do with that? He's like, I
don't know, it's just for my safety. You know, when
you got to pull that thing out and pull that trigger,
it's because that's a fucking cannon. D Yeah, And he's
like it's a cannon. I'm like, dude, I was like,
I got a nine.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Understand, I can hate you like five times with my nine.
But before you get off your second round.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah yeah, I was like, it looks cool man, you know,
all power to you.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
The other you know, but the real problem with open
carry is people can steal. I mean, you know, if
you've got the second retention, and but how many times
have you seen on video the guy comes up behind you.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
We can all get through one and two easy, yeah,
because we.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
All because we all use it right, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
So personally I prefer concealed, but I would not mind
the option.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's like, let's say we're coming from training and I
want to run into seven eleven real quick, you know,
and I don't feel like, you know, taking every enough.
If I'm just gonna run in the gas station real
good and like run out, you know, that makes it
easier or the problem that.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
We used to have is now we have a certain
licensing that allows us to do.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Said anyway exactly that that is true to thank you Ducky,
but my man Ducky.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But also the problem that we used to have here
in Florida where we had concealed we didn't have open
but if the wind blew and your shirt flapped and
someone saw it, even if it was accidental, ooh, you're brandishing,
and you could get in big trouble. They fixed that now,
(31:03):
I mean, they finally fixed that to where if it's
obvious it was you weren't brandishing. So you're bending over
to pick something up and.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
It shows out your pulling your weapon out of the
holster or showing it as somebody, or showing them that
you have that weapon towards them.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It has happened.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Wheah, that's bullshit, but it has happened.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Where it's like the guy has bent over to pick
something up and it shows and the cops nailed him for.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
That is crap.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
But it got fixed. It finally got fixed after years
a right, so now you know you don't have to
worry about it. That's why I mean, when that was
still an issue, that's why I didn't carry on me
like that. I carried in my in my sling bag.
Now I carry it on me normally because I just
(32:03):
didn't want to take the chance of because you know,
the all the legal but also since I am a
member of law Shield, which I have been for my
god about eight years now, I think you know which
they also help you with that kind of study, you know.
I mean there are other ones out there, you know,
I mean there's what, uh, the attorneys on retainers.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Law is the best.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
No, it is because they protect you if you're on
the job to No other company will do that because
they don't want that liability.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So I think we should start our own security company.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Still, I'll work for you.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
We'll have to see like what all goes into it.
But let's get back to Let's get back to because
we're like going way off.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
The Yeah, I told you.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, the reason why we went to guns was because
of you know, Graham, and it's exactly not showing that
you're carrying.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's where sometimes also camouflage also falls into the kit
that you have to carry. I mean sometimes you cannot
carry rifles. Yeah, Sometimes you can't carry an a r
Sometimes you are limited to strictly a handgun or a
U P d W or something like that. That is
also camouflage. Believe it or not, I mean, yes, it
(33:25):
is super offensive and you know, sometimes you just gotta
get down and dirty briefcase listen, Yes, with the goddam
h and k M P five in it.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Hey, I mean it worked phenomenal, amazing, But that was
the whole gray Man theory.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Like Homeboy is not carrying a gun, He's carrying a
freaking briefcase. What threat is he to me?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He's not until you realize he's a badass, like s
a s freaking operative, like Christian Craighead that is carrying
some freaking crazy ass ship.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
One of the best Antonio Antonio bandetas.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh god dang, you.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Remember all the different ways that they hid all their
guns in the guitar case and all the different things.
You know that one the freaking rocket lodger in the
I mean that is gray Man to the next.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Live that's that is man. Because the guy that was
actually looking was not paying attention. Homeboy had a blind
eye to you that day.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Okay, folks, So what have we learned today? We have
learned that there are many different camel patterns. Some work,
some don't.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Some and sometimes camouflage aren't even.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Necessary exactly, Just be gray man, don't stand out, blend in,
look like everybody else, and they won't notice you as
you're doing whatever you're trying to do, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Subversely, so like the veterans saying that went out like
uh oh yeah, the stuff I wears grunt style and
you know nine line.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
And all that.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Mine mine's nine line.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yeah, mine's ground style. Stop barning that stuff. Yeah, I'm
just being serious, like they're out to get us, so
you know I'm not going to me either, Let's get it.
I know most of the veterans are, you know, most
of us are. But it's like if if you're with
(35:33):
your family and you don't want.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That, yeah, because you don't want to bring your family
into something. Thank you, folks. This has been another great
episode of litz Greek. I hope that some of the
stuff that we've talked about has helped you on your
prepping journey, because again, what are we preparing for? Who knows?
I mean, it could be full blown at the fan,
(35:57):
it could be just something minor something stupid. It be
something for your job, even you know where you're carrying
a bunch of money for your job because you're going
from the office to the bank. Yeah, you want to
not stand out that you're carrying one hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
By the way, Uh, you do not have to have
a CCW for that. Even when Florida had a CCW,
which now it's whatever better to get if you are
carrying an absurd amount of money going to or from
a bank, you did not have to have a CCW.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
No before the permit. Yeah, yeah, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, you did not have to have a permit for that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Not that I've ever carried large sums of money, but
we are going to get I've carried huge sacks though.
Oh okay, don't get folks. Check out and join the
prepper group on Facebook SAINC Clued Prepping and Surviving. Of
course the podcast page as well on Facebook Bondzie Prepping Podcast.
(36:55):
Email us anytime, bonziem for you dot com with your
questions and your comments. What is your favorite rich camouflage
pattern that you wear and why I can tell us?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
What is cp CP like the what we were now?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
What is it o CP? Yeah, it's like almost like multiicam,
but it's on a instead of a vertical, it's like
a horizontal or some ship. What's yours, dude, we didn't
talk about this. What's your favorite carmoflage?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Honestly, it would have to be the darker multi cam,
not the tropical one, the one that's like darker that
they have now.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
To Yeah, that's what which is what we use for.
I think my favorite one is still, Honest to god, dude,
I think it's markat pretty solid pattern. It is it
is in the woods.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
But okay, guys, thank you for tuning in, and remember
stay safe, stay strapped, and never ever panic.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It's dangerous. S
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