August 18, 2025 • 51 mins
On Episode #8 of Blitzkreig
Banzai, Ox and Booboo talk about the importance of Community and Tribe. Cant make it on your own all alone , not even a family of 4 really can. You have to sleep sometimes and in a true SHTF world the amount of work and skills needed to survive will take a tribe.
The Blitzkreig Podcast is a short form 30 to 60 min prepping/survival podcast brought to you from the minds that created The Banzai Prepping Podcast but which will focus on only one topic per episode, no news/politics or fluff. We do our best to not get side tracked and give you a more condensed meat and potatoes topic driven show. Still the fun of the Banzai Prepping Podcast just more focused.
Broadcasting right from the heart of central Fl deep in the Manor of Saint Cloud.
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Banzai, Ox and Booboo talk about the importance of Community and Tribe. Cant make it on your own all alone , not even a family of 4 really can. You have to sleep sometimes and in a true SHTF world the amount of work and skills needed to survive will take a tribe.
The Blitzkreig Podcast is a short form 30 to 60 min prepping/survival podcast brought to you from the minds that created The Banzai Prepping Podcast but which will focus on only one topic per episode, no news/politics or fluff. We do our best to not get side tracked and give you a more condensed meat and potatoes topic driven show. Still the fun of the Banzai Prepping Podcast just more focused.
Broadcasting right from the heart of central Fl deep in the Manor of Saint Cloud.
Tune in and share with your friends!
Listen on the following podcast platforms!
Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/banzai-prepping
iHeart: https://iheart.com/podcast/101740549
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKCpzZCFr3StiFzM9fSjJ
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to blitz Kreeg number eight. Yes, we are on
Blitzkrieg number eight right now. It is what is it's
August third of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It doesn't matter. You won't hear this for like three weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, I mean, because we're doing a marathon session of
a show's back to back to get them all recorded,
because you know how schedules go. But what is the Blitzkrieg.
It is our short format show where we try to
bring you one topic. We try to stay on topic
rather than going through the whole two to three hour
(00:37):
long format show that we have, which many of you love.
You love our banter, you love our fluff, but there's
times when you just want the solid information on the
one topic that's there. And today's topic is gonna be
brought to you by myself, Bondsi. We have Ox and
Booboo in the house. In the house, we're gonna talk
(01:00):
about community, We're gonna talk about tribe, We're gonna talk
about mags. What is a mag Mutual aid group or
mutual assistance group that you know, the acronym goes for
like different things, but basically it is about not being
a lone wolf. Prepper and not being that family of
four that ends up getting taken over. You've got to
(01:22):
sleep sometime. Even if your kids are older and they're
mid teens, let's say, and they can shoot and they
can help work. Still four of you is not enough.
So building a community for she hit the fan? What
(01:42):
is that we don't do notes on this show? I
always think of this. You're living in your suburban home.
It has just said that the stock market is dropping
for the ninth day in a row. People are now
racing to their banks to empty their accounts. Couple this
with an unstable euro and an unstable Middle East, a
(02:05):
world wicky economic procession, and you get the start of
hitting the fan. How does your neighborhood react to this?
Who in your neighborhood do you trust? Nobody unless they're
part of your group.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Now take that a step further and imagine a state
of civil unrest. Homes nearby are being looted, and undesirables
are now common in your neighborhood. You have a weapon,
but the occupants of your home include you, your wife,
and two small children. You have a front door, a
back door, and a garage door. How do you cover all.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Three much less the first floor windows. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Plus again, you have to sleep sometime.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Sorry. Some of the best exact.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Some of the best reasons to find or join or
start a group of your own their strength in numbers.
Being in a suburban area, I tend to worry about
what will happen when looters run them ug. I imagine
when the city has defaned, criminals will likely run in gangs.
Those gangs will target individual homes for looting and potentially
seek to oust the folks living there. They would target
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homes with a small number of occupants to make their
raids that much easier. So to avoid being in their crosshairs,
it would be optimal to be viewed as a large group.
These criminals will have quite a few homes to choose
from when things get tough, and there's no sense in
being an easy target. Remember, giving the perception of a
large force is enough to deter those with bad intentions.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, it's not even a large group. It's a large
group that knows how to move.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, yeah, that knows how to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Once I see that, they're like, Okay, we're not gonna
deal with them because they know what they're doing. We're
gonna stay far far away from them. We're actually gonna
give them what they want in a way, you know, right.
But uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now, another good point is more hands, more work done.
Continuing with the same theme of a group, the more
folks in that group, the more workers you have. Those
additional sets of hands will be able to help guarden, cook,
pack supplies, gather water, hunt for food. Well, you will
have to feed and care for those extra bodies. The
work you get for them should more than make up
(04:25):
for it. I would much rather have five people forging
for food and supplies versus one, as time will be
of the essence. What's it doing now? Oh? I wouldn't
do that in here, dude, with all the all the
gunpowders all right, wow? Plus what's right next to you
(04:48):
mortar fireworks? Yeah, it's a bunch of seven inch mortars. Wow,
that would be fun, it would. Now. It also comes
to pre planning. Knowing you'll have a community of preppers
allows you to be proactive with planning. You now can
(05:10):
request your neighbors start preparing by gathering suppliers, preparing their homes,
and getting their financials in order. You can even go
as far as planning the homes you will use for
what purpose. By having families that focus on particular area
of prepping. For instance, like let's say medical, your house
will be the like medical, your house will be the schoolhouse.
(05:31):
Your house will be the you know, uh, food processing,
you know all that. What do you do?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Are you freaking yes?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You're coming down now. You're starting to get those like
when you start twisting.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
If we had a video right now, videos soon.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Exactly, you know, more supplies because everyone you know can't
can you know, like pitch in with their stuff. Companionship.
When the ship hits the fan, people will have a
hard time adjusting. You're gonna need that support of like
people together, you know, because we're all going to go
(06:16):
through those hard times mentally, you know, when things start
getting really weird. And having a extended family a tribe,
you know, makes it that much easier for the people to.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I mean, it's not really extended family because mentor each other.
A lot of you guys are like family to me,
right to my family, so it's not extended in a way.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So now the scariest part, though, the scariest part is
if you're not in a group yet, is how do
you find a group or how do you start a group? Now?
Finding a group, Man, if you think dating is hard,
finding a group to mess your family with other families,
(07:10):
oh yeah can be super difficult, super difficult.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well that's like I didn't even meet you until I
met another gentleman that told me, hey call him, you
know what I mean. So it's like I heard about
you to a guy that I really didn't even know,
and it was kind of like a friend of a
friend of a friend of a friend of a friend
of a friend, and then I met you and then
(07:36):
it was like okay, cool, and then it was like well, hey,
by the way, do you know about this? And then
that turned into like a whole another frigging like yeah,
a whole another door opening topic. Yeah, and then I
met freaking like everybody else. And then even after that,
(07:56):
it was still like, bro, you're still getting vetted. It
gets cool, like we're gonna know everything about you by
having this ship said and done, Like, bro, do you
all know people in FBI or some ship? No, because
that sh it's fake. We're going to find out the
real you. Like god, dang it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I moved in next to Sarch and one day past.
I was out doing the yard and all that. He
comes out and he's like talk to me. I'm like okay,
He's like I think you'd be a good fit. I'm
like what yep. Yeah, And then he was like me
(08:32):
and my other colleague, we're talking about you. He lives
right over there. Yeah, and uh, he likes you a lot,
Like okay.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Like what do I need to hide? Like do I
need to wear like a certain like instrument?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Dude, this dude knew everything that he needed to know
about me before he even talked.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
About Oh yeah, it was cool, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But freaky at the same time. Like I went inside
to my wife, I'm like, we got to go.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Like b.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But it's a little scary and yeah. And then I
met him yea. And then I met you guys, like
this is cool, like this is something that we need
to have just in case, because he never brought it
in to realize that if some something hits the fan,
then we had nowhere to go. We actually have somewhere
(09:28):
to go.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, And you know that's the thing too, is like
when you look at it, like, yes, I have somewhere
to go, but there's there's even more to it than that.
It's like, now I have somewhere that like I can
take the skills that I know you as a mechanic,
mean as welder, and we can employ those skills to
try to make everything better, to make everything better for us.
(09:54):
Like you know, heaven forbid anything actually does happen, and
it may never in our lifetime right now, but if
it does, we can be like, hey, dude, we did
everything that we could to the best of our ability
well to try to help mitigate you know, those to
the impact that it's going to cause in our lives.
(10:15):
And plus then we have each other that we can
lean on, you know, when we have an issue or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
We also have youngins that we've taught everything we know to,
you know, the generation that may go through that situation, and.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
They're all getting familiar with each other as well, so
that it's kind of like, you know, they don't have
to go through trying to find a group. Who's trying
to find a group. I've been doing this for thirty years. Yeah,
and I've been part of several different groups and really
every single one ended up self destructive. Yeah, you know,
usually because who's got the biggest swinging dick. Someone wants
(10:50):
to be in charge and this, that and the other,
and you know, or you know, everything seems to be fine,
they seem to be normal, and then all of us
sudden they start talking racist ship or like violence stuff
or no it's like, no, that's not what we're about, man.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, you know so, Like I listen to time, I
don't care what kind of baggage you've got. I just
want to survive with my family, you know what I mean? Like,
I don't really care if you are like an anti
semi Yeah, that is your own business.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Keep it to yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah. Like, dude, if you want to run around, like
I said earlier on I think episode I don't know
six with your dog mask. Bro, you do you brother?
But you do that somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Around my family.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, don't do that shit around my family. And you
know what, we can all like co mingle and get
along and have a good time.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
And that's what's so good about ours, our group, that
is that we can bring our families around.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
If we're not, you don't have to worry about the
crazy show.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I could leave my family with you or you worth
anybody else in the group and not we'll have to
worry about what going on.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, and you know, I was at that's a really
good point because that's what I stick some ring up. Like,
I know, like, you come over to my house, do
we know, during a couple of beers having the time,
you know, and dude, you've got the freaking door code
to my house. You got yeah, Dude, Like I left
to go on vacation. I'm like, hey, bro, if you
don't mind, you know, would you please go ride by
my house and you know, make sure the cast dogs,
(12:20):
the ship's okay, that ship's okay, even a ranch.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And he's like, bro, I got you. Yeah, don't worry
about it. I'm like, cool, have fun. I don't have
to worry about it exactly. You know. For the three
or four days I was gone, that was like the
least of my concern because I'm like, dude, my brother
has got my ship taken care of for me, or like.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And We've seen throughout the incarnations of various groups that
you'll get some people that are really good people and
you kind of try and stay in contact with them.
So when you find another group, you kind of try.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
To bring them over.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And the group that we have now really is the
culmination of like three or four different groups that we've
taken the best out of out of all of them.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I mean maybe I would say I haven't met
a whole bunch of them yet because well I don't
ever see them training.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Well that's yeah something, But.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Just throw my sucker in the
dur and there for a second.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So now I got you.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah, if you are gonna start a group of your
own because you don't know anyone around, or you've checked
and there are there are no established groups in your
area and you.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Want to start your own, here's some key things that
you can look.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
At, but be careful.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Well, of course, of course you have to vet people.
But before the thing of vetting, if you like, when
you're sitting down first trying to say, okay, what will
we need you know, uh, in terms of in terms
of what type of skills and things like that think
you're gonna need. Uh, Let's look at the example. If
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your mag has a dozen one dozen adults, and then
your handy person might be able to patch a roof
with scavenge supplies, perform basic plumbing and electrical and build
outputtings and such. They can do some maintenance and keep
equipment running that might not be able to manufacture parts
they need for indepth rebuilds of a generator engine. But
if your mag has one hundred adults and the handy
(14:32):
person might be spread across, you know several you know
several other people. Sure, so you may need you know,
a builder, someone that knows how to build out buildings, houses,
you know basic, you know basic architecture and structure, wood frame,
concrete block.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And that's the thing. Like, even with a builder like
you just brought up, he does not have to have
an engineering degree. Right If the dude is seventy years
old and he built his friggin house on his friggin
farm somewhere God knows in Montana, Wyoming, West Virginia and
it's still standing, listen, listen to the old guy. He
(15:13):
probably knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And yeah, don't turn away people just because they are old.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, they may not be able to run and go.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Wealth of knowledge, but they teach caregiver. Not only will
there be children to watch, there'll be older people in
the group that will eventually need cares the age or
others will need help from recovering from an injury caregivers
watch kids and seniors are like, so adults can focus
on their specialties without worrying about the kids.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, and caregivers in that same category. That's where you
and I don't. I haven't seen your list. Yeah, but
that's where like teachers fall in. Yes, that way. You know,
your kids don't basically grow up incompetent. So if you've
got somebody that is capable of taking care of your
kids and giving them an education as well, you know,
while they might not be like solely suited to taking
(16:00):
care of like the elderly and stuff like that, they
are a perfect fit. If you can find somebody with
any type of educational background, if you can find I
don't care if it's K three like kindergarten teacher, I
don't care. But they have the heart for it. And
that's the biggest thing. If you can find somebody with
a heart for that particular set, dude, that is a
(16:25):
huge benefit.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Because again, when people think about prepres and survivalists, they think, oh,
everyone's got a gun and everyone is a young like
mister Rambay. No, you will have people there that don't
know how to shoot. I mean, of course, we're always
willing to teach them if they want to learn. Oh yeah,
but again, if they're a doctor, if they're a teacher, if.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
They're listen, and if you want to see a great
movie that is a prime example of what BONDSI is
talking about. Neil McDonald in Homestead. Oh yeah, because that dude.
The movie is phenomenal. I have not seen the TV
series yet is supposed to I think follow it. But
the movie will show you a prime example of how
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people that don't actually know like certain skills will learn
other people's skills to help, like benefit the whole community.
It's great, it's phenomenal movie. Please.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You're gonna need, of course, people to run you know,
communications equipment. You're gonna need doctor. I don't like medical.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I don't what you got my comms. You got my comms,
specs got my medical.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You need people there that know how to raise animals.
That's like with you. You know, I got you because
it hits the fan. You're gonna need food, you need
You're gonna need to know how to grow food, how
to raise animals for food, and how to procure food
from doing you know, scavenging.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
If it grows in the dirt, unscrewed. If it grows
above the dirt, I'm good. It's like I got. It
is great with the stuff that grows in the dirt,
you know. Oh, how are those mangoes amazing? Nuts? Dude,
you got macadamia nuts. I'm gonna pissed off right now
(18:17):
what we have. I'mtual mess him up right now. You
don't even know you have here, Like you didn't give
me the big tree. I don't pendud, I don't pay
attention to ship.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I'll give you some nuts when we get back after.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh I bet you will.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, that's besides the point.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yea, not those nuts, folks.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
But you know, and you can even break that down further, like,
let's say, for instance, our goats, right, I can't milk
my goats because of my back it, you know, the
position that you have to be in.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But he can. But he's still.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But if you someone that can focus on that one thing, right,
you teach him how to you teach him how to
milk the goats. And that's their job twice a day
because you've got to do it every day or the
goat dries up and then they don't give milk anymore.
So you know, you have someone that focus. That's all
they do. They you know, they they they pulled it
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twice a day, twice a day, like we got thirty
goats right now.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You know, I've got a nineteen year old son that
would love that job.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Hey, And then you know, you could even take it
through like the extent because if that only takes like
two hours in the morning and two hours at night,
let's say they still have more time.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, okay, then set them up with Okay, this is
how you make butter from that. So you take the
milk that you have done, a certain amount of it
stays for drinking, a certain amount of it goes for butter,
and a certain amount of it goes for like making
cheese and teach how to do those things. And that's
their job done. Period. Again. That's why if you have
(20:04):
a family of three or four or five, you get done.
You can't get all that stuff done between separity and
fixing and growing and raising and milking.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And well, and that's the thing is, I mean, if
you didn't have to worry about security, everything else, everything else,
you could get done. You really could, You really could,
because dude, look at it like this. Everybody from I
don't know, like I don't know the dawn of time
until today. If you live on a ranch and you've
(20:40):
got like your wife and your kids and everything else,
you could do it. People have done it forever. But
as soon as you as soon as you add in security,
that's where I mean, even if you look at ancient times,
that's when you're like, bro, I cannot milk my goddang goat,
or milk my cow, or fix my fence or build this.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Wall while I'm trying to fight off them, while.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm trying to fight off everybody that's trying to get
all my shit. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
No, it is impossible.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And then you know, once you figure in like you
were talking about, you know, people that will take care
of your kids while you're doing that. People will patch
you up whenever you get your sword slice. You physically
can't do it by yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, that's why you had hunter gatherer groups. Yeah, tribes, tribe, tribe,
you know, small villages. Now, there is an optimal number too, though,
you know anything, The optimal number that I've seen that
I've talked to people I've researched is really anywhere from
about twenty to fifty or sixty people. When you start
(21:57):
getting above the sixty number, you look throughout history, most
tribes peaked out between one hundred and one hundred and fifty.
Because at that point it starts getting almost like a
little town, and it starts becoming political. I mean, just
that's that's human nature, that's just how we are. You
start getting clicks that that's are like you know, breaking in.
(22:21):
There's a lot of things for all the bad things
of communism, but you know, because it is for a country,
it's horrible. Oh, for freedom, it's horrible. But when you're
dealing on like a small tribe or villages level, when
you're on a micro level, when you're on a micro level,
some of it is common sense. We all work together
(22:44):
to grow food and raise animals.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yes, you know, but at that point it's not really
And I would agree with you right for the most part,
because yes, I understand how like the theory of communism works.
But where you where the downfall of communism is is
it becomes then you get a lazy person, yes, and
(23:06):
then they're like, yeah, they're not going to do anything,
but they still want to share in the bounty of
everybody else.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And at that point, you also get the split of
the those who lead and those who are the right
that don't. So then so but like when it's kept smaller.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Then yes, it does work to a certain degree. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So you've got your security, you've got your food, You've
got all these things that have to be done. So
if you're going to start your group yourself, you have
to vet people, you know, to understand.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Who they are.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And you know, it's like a job in of you
in a way. You know, if you've ever been a
manager at a store or at any kind of business,
you can, if you're decent, you can tend to re people.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Like quickly, very quickly, within five minutes. I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's like you knew I was a freak immediately.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh I mean, well that was only because you tried
to do dirty things to me almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you do have to be very
very discerning because remember, these people are going to be
around your family, around your kids.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
That kind of terrifies me some days.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
So you heard that he doesn't know, So you've got
to be very careful about the type of people that
you bring in. Hey, you've got to it's not necessarily
that you have to have all the same beliefs. A
group can be a mix of Christians and Atheists and
(24:54):
Jews and whatnot. You know, as long as everyone respects
each other, yes, but there are certain groups that may
not so mingle. Like if if there's a certain religion,
let's say that believes that it's okay to touch kids.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Then you're gonna end up in the wood chipper, right,
whatever it is exactly, you.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Know what I mean, Or that it's okay to treat
women like people. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Goodbye, never mind, car.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So there's a certain amount of me and.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
The wife actually had a conversation about today, But I digress.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
There's a certain amount of common belief you have to have,
at least on a basic I'm not even sure if
I want to use the word moral light level, but
just just the basic understanding of right and wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Once you get past that, then yeah, maybe sometimes personalities
just don't click, but you don't have to overlook things
like if this guy is a doctor, and he's an
awesome doctor, he may be a dick, super arrogant, you
know what I mean, but you know that he is
going to be a massive asset. Maybe you will be
(26:15):
able to look over certain personality flaws, you know, up
to a point. I mean, if if they start getting
you know, abusive, that's another story, yeah, you know, But
if it's just yeah, the guy can be an asshole sometimes.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah, you know, if you catch anybody on any
given bad day, you can be an asshole. I don't
you a damn how nice of a guy you are, Like, dude,
I will tell you right now, if you catch me
on seven out of ten business days, I'm probably an asshole.
That's just how it goes. I don't try to be,
(26:53):
but you know, sometimes that's just how it works. I
don't I don't try to throw a fit, I don't
try to start a fire.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
But you caught me out at that time.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, dude, Like, you're a freaking dumbass, and it's not
my fault. I'm sorry now.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
There are so many benefits to be in a actual
prepper group. Think of this also trading and bartering. You know,
even if they're not part of your inner circle. Because
you have different levels. You have your core group, you
can have a secondary one where you do do things together,
but you may not have that super close bond, and
(27:32):
then you can have your like third tier out where
you don't you work together in in the aspect like
I know that Joe that lives on the other side
of town. Yeah he raises chickens. Yeah, you know, I don't.
He's a good guy. You now. Maybe now, maybe we
(27:54):
don't hang all the time, maybe we don't actually work
together all the time. But I know that if the
shit hits the fan, I can call him on the
radio and we could still trade and barter, even though
we have two different groups, you know. But it's that
network of people that you know, he may know someone
even like it's like, hey, Bob man, I know we
(28:14):
don't you know, work that much together. Thanks for that
last thing of eggs that you gave us. It was awesome.
Do you know anyone that knows how to X, Y
and Z, and then he may be able to hook
you up. So you have your different levels too. You've
got your tight group that you consider family, that is
your tribe, that is your you know, hardcore center. Then
you've got your you know, your next level where they
(28:37):
know where you live. If the shit hits the fan,
they are welcome to come and work with you. They
may still stay in their place, but you'll work together,
you know, quite closely. Then you have your third tier
out where it's people that you know. They may have
a skill or something, but they're not part of the group,
but they're part of the network, and you know you
(28:57):
may be in trouble. Some bad guys are attacking. You know,
it's like, hey, we're under attack, can you guys come
and flank them, you know something, drop everything and go right,
you know, And and they will come even though they're
not part of your group per se. They know that
if someone happens to them, you'd be over there to
help them too.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Sorry, folks, getting sick again. No, dude, I don't. I
don't know what that was. I'm not sure I had
something in my throat it had to come out.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I don't know, boo boom, but it was no wow.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So that's why the you know what so important to do,
because when you bet someone, it's you're you're getting to
know them and their personality. They're likes, they're dislikes.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Well that was like you told me the other day,
whenever we were talking, you were like, dude, when I
first met you, I thought you were a dick bag.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
No, but that's cool. Like, dude, it is entirely fine.
I'm not even mad about it. Yeah, but you told
me you were Like, dude, I thought you were a
freaking asshole. But look at us now, I know, did
you come over to the house. We sit out and
Barry hang out. Like but that's okay. But that's why
it's important to like get to actually know people, because
people aren't always what they like. What the the first
(30:14):
persona you see is not always what you get. Like
you might you might find somebody that you're like, dude,
this freaking guy is gonna be a perfect fit for
our group, and the next thing you know, he turns
out to be like a frigging yeah yeah, and he
might be a frigging pedophile, and you know he might
(30:34):
be a freaking vegan and he doesn't know how to
do anything other than literally just talk shit. Yeah well
at that point, what good is that person?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And that's fine. Yeah, you do not have to accept
everyone into your tribe.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's like finding out the alphas and betas and yeah, right, dude, Because.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I mean, there were certain people that are born leaders.
There are some people can become leaders. They may not
be a born leader, but through.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Through time and experience they can become.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
And a lot of it. Also, a good leader, in
my eyes, is not just someone that can lead, is
also someone that knows who knows more than them. Like
for instance, I may be because we kind of have
like a tripe, like a like a three headed like leadership.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Something I don't know, but it works for us. It does.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
But it's like, for instance, I know what my limitations
are if it comes to.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Until you hurt your back and yeah, you know, like
like certain things with like security.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You know, I know a lot about security, but I'm
not a combat veteran. So if we think we may
be getting into some kind of an altercation, I'm gonna say, hey,
what do we do? You are the guy that's the
expert on this, tell me what should we do? Now?
If I'm the leader at the time being a good leader,
(32:16):
I'm going to take your advice, you know, and I
may act on it. I'm but I may be like,
you know, maybe we shouldn't do that, but at least
I'm going to go to you. I'm seeking advice. Or
it's like, you know, why are all our trees dying?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
But it's you know, it's the closure that it's coming
from us to tell you that it's okay what you
got to do and we'll do what we need.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I used to like to. I mean, dude, you guys
ever watch Stargate Atlantis at all? Okay, god dang it, no, no, no,
but okay, but remember when doctor Weir was in charge.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Civilian you didn't know everything.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
That's why she leaned on Shepherd when it came to
like military.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Okay, well you're talking to people that probably might not
know star I.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Know, I know, but I'm saying, you know, she was
the civilian organ. She was, she was the leader. But
then you had Shepherd, who was like the head of
the like security and like military part of it. Then
you had uh uh well that was different. Then you
(33:35):
had uh uh the uh doctor, the Scottish dude, I
forgot his name now, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
But so you've got these different I can yelled at
today for watching Star Trek. Okay, I'm not Yeah, dude,
I got yelled after watching Star Track. She's like, you're
a freaking geek.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I'm like, well, she already calls you a tactical.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Geek.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
So but the point is is.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Your group has I told her, I like, you'll need
me one day, Yeah, one.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Day, and it's not always gonna miss. But that's where
you try to find people that have their expertise. And
if you are going to be the leader, understand that
you don't know everything and you are going to need
people that may be more experienced with you, yep, but
than you in those certain fields.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And you also have to realize as a leader, even
after you like accumulate all that knowledge, you are still
responsible for the decisions that you make. Like if I
ask you and you and I'm like, bro, what do
y'all think about this? What are we gonna do? The
trees are dying and you told me any more water,
(34:52):
you don me any more fertilizer? Okay, well cool, I
think any more fertilizer. Let's try that. Now they're dead
because we burnt the freaking roots out of them. Right,
who's responsible for that ship? You are the person that
made the fucking call decision, right, So you have got
to be willing to not only learn from others, but
(35:15):
you have got to be willing to like take responsibility
for the decisions that are made based on the information
that you're given.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You can't turn around and say, why did you tell
me to do that? You're freaking in No, you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Have to literally be like, bro, I did the best
I could. I made the wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
That's hard for a man to do because they are
alpha or whatever it is, and they're like, yeah, whatever
you say, I don't care. Yeah, I'm gonna try what
a portion of what they're they're saying, and they do it,
and then you know, yeah, there.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And for a man, like you said, that's difficult. But
again it boils down to, well, who knows more about
this ship like you were talking about, who knows more
about it than I do? Because, like I said, if
it goes in the ground, sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
That's why you gotta trust everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
In your right. You have to trust them. And because
I honestly God, if it goes more or freak or whatever,
I can make that ship live. But if it doesn't,
all right, sorry, you know a lot more than that. Yeah,
But like I get it, that's just how it goes.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
When it comes down to it, folks, tribe, community, It's
going to be survival, it is going to be everything. Yeah,
so do your best. I know for a lot of
people that are just now tuning in.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
This guy's done run this episode longer than all of them.
You know why he's talking? Keep missing me up like that,
it's going to go longer. It's cool. I like it.
Go ahead. We turned in a whole episode two and
a half hours. Hey is, folks, sitting down and buckle in.
(37:03):
Here we go important. No, this is important.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
See now I totally lost my train of thought on
on like that, say it is?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I mean, but.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay. The point is community, family, tribe is going to
be one of the most important things.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
However, do not get locked up in the shed behind
the place, because well, you.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Never know what's gonna come at you. A family of
four cannot do it. Even they lone Wolf Prepper. How
many mountain men would go out to like, oh, I'm
gonna live on my own, and some of them did
make it for several years. But all it takes is
one injury out there by yourself with one hand.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Who did that?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, exactly, there are It's a very small number.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, all right, because all it takes is getting sick
one time, and there's injured or injury.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Well, I mean, even if you watched even now where
they do like those reality shows where you know, homeboy
gets sick or like you said, he gets hurt. Ye,
homeboy gets a freaking cut. That ship's in fact being Yeah,
and the guy is seventy five years old and literally
knows how to do it. But all of a sudden,
(38:35):
you know, he has four fever. He us he is
so sick he can't do it.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And he's septick, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Boom yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Some archaeologist finds his body three hundred.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Years later, you know, yeah, I mean it happens, it
really does.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
So folks, I know some of you out there who
are just getting into prepping right now. You don't know
what to do, You don't know who to go to.
There's a there are weird people out there. There are
bad people out there that say their preppers, that that
say they want to help, but they're actually going to
try to pray on you as well.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
If I can make a suggestion real quick, find people
that are older than you, that no more than you do.
Not come in there like we were talking about before.
Don't go in there thinking that you know everything, because
I promise you your scope of knowledge is incredibly small.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I've been doing this for over thirty years, and when I.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Used to teach life what I was talking about, right,
I used.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
To teach live classes, you know at the church and
everything on these topics. Every now and then I would
get the person introducing me. They would introduce me as
a prepping or survival expert or whatever, and I'd.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Be like, nodings.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
First, folks, I am not an expert. Yeah, I'm learning
just like everyone else here. I know there are people
in this room right now that more than I do.
And I've and I've said i had a class of
sixty people like one time, and I'm like, if at
any point during my class, you think I'm wrong on
some point or you have some knowledge that I don't have.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
It, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Raise your hand and I'll bring you up here and
we can teach together on that topic because that's what
it's about. And I've done that before where I've actually
brought the person up and be like, hey, you seem
to have a better grasp on that than I do.
Please tell me, you know, give me your advice on this.
And then it ended up being a co taught class,
(40:40):
like the last half of the class.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, but what does that do to that person?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
It brings them closer to absolutely.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Okay, this guy's gonna work for a group and then
we're gonna bring them in.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Well, it not only brings them closer, but then then
you gain that knowledge. Yes, so you can take that
back to your group and you know, and it's like
anything else, there's always that give and take. There's the
ebb and flow, and you know, if somebody does know,
it's like you said, the most important thing is you
don't know everything right now. So if you can learn
(41:15):
to do it, yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Because you know it's wrong, you're gonna learn something out
of it.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean yeah, like you said, even if
something is oh, well this guy, I don't think he's right. Yeah,
well maybe not everything he said is right, but makes
a valid point. There is a valid point somewhere in
there that is possible that it can benefit everybody.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Like we've been through like the trainings and everything, and
I'm like more on the aspect of the new age
and then everybody's like, okay, we gotta do this. I'm like,
well what about this? Yeah, and everybody he's like I
didn't think about that, or you know, when you bring
it up, what about this? And you know, the leader
(42:05):
that's doing the training is like, I didn't think about.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
That, but you know what, dude, But that's okay because
how it goes because I promise you that there are
like and I I do again like he said, I
will never profess to be an expert. Never. But dude,
if you got a valid point, let's hear you. Yes,
I want to hear what you have to say because
(42:28):
it may or may not at the end of the
day benefit me. Yeah, so let's rip it.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Let's go now with what we know is coming. But
we don't know how much time we have. It could
be a week, it could be a month, it could
be five years, it could be ten years. We don't know.
And building a good, solid core group does take time.
So the best thing to do is to start now.
If you're trying to do it yourself, the better thing
(42:58):
possibly is to look for it a stab with this
group and make yourself valuable to them. That way you
don't have to go through that. But sometimes they are
hard to find because a lot of groups don't want
to be found. Yeah, you know, they don't advertise, not
like back in the eighties when literally you looked in
the class American Survival guys.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, I mean that's back when I got started and
I was communicating with these prepper groups around the country,
you know, I mean it was it was weird back.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
And you know what, like, if you are trying to
look hook up with a local mag wherever you're at,
there are a lot of really good resources some of
them are And dude, freaking I hate that. Like through
this guy out there, it seems like every time we talk. Yeah,
but bear independent, dude. He has got literally a thing
(43:58):
on his website that is connect with people around you,
and you can look it up by your state, by
your county, wherever you're at. But I don't even know
if I think maybe they do my zip code now,
I don't know. I used to do something so but
it will tell you exactly where to Hey, these are
the people in your area.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Remember that map that's on the wall in the other
building and it's got those circles all over. I used
to do something similar to that, and I had these
groups I had to contact information. So if someone said, hey,
I'm in South Dakota, I'd be like, oh, let me
call these people here, you know, hook up whatever. I
stopped doing that a while back simply because of time
(44:40):
and everything else.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
It's a lot of effort. It's a ton of effort.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Because I really needed to focus on our tribe.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yes. Now, well, and that's why I brought up Bear,
because I'm like, dude, he literally has a website. It's
a website.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
It's a website done that.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
It will take you to South Florida's, Central Florida, North Florida,
Frank and George, wherever the hell you're at, and then
it will connect you with people feeling. This is not
the first group I have been a part of, and
I will tell you right now, this one feels like home.
I have been to a couple of them that I
(45:14):
was like, dude, there is no way in hell I'm
getting wrapped up in these people because it's not stuff
they said, but it was their requirements. It was like, oh, well,
you have to have this and you have to do that,
and you have and I'm like, I don't have to
I don't have to do anything. But whenever a group
(45:36):
of people, right, but when you meet up with a
group of people and they're like, hey, what do you know?
What are your skills? How can you help us? And
then let's figure it out instead of you have to you.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Have you have to, dude. That's one of the things
that that somebody, Oh, if you want to be a
part of the group, you have to pay dues. Sometimes
it was low, like twenty five bucks a month whatever,
you know, but still it's like, well, you know what,
I start getting into financials and other legal stuff, like hey,
let's get thirty people and let's buy a one hundred
(46:13):
acre piece of property.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And then and you know what, I honestly I would
not have a problem with that does but I wouldn't
have a problem.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
It gets but it gets really it gets really tangled though.
When when then people, Okay, so now you've bought into
this property. Now you've all built up, and now you've
added buildings and this, that and the other, and now
change right and then yeah, as you want to leave,
you want to or whatever, how do you start? Okay, well,
(46:42):
how much do we owe you to buy out your share?
And you know.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That's where it becomes complicated.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, exactly. So I mean, I'm not saying it can't work,
but it can get messy, you know, no.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
It absolutely can. And that's where you have to realize too.
Going into a mag especially if there are dues. You
have to understand that, you know, if there are you know,
twenty dollars a month or whatever, that is for the
benefit of the tribe. If you choose to leave the tribe,
that's kind of on you, right, yeah, so you have
(47:19):
to be willing to take that loss.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Right, I mean, you can't like the money. But I've
seen because I've seen this happen before. Okay, so where,
well where they will bring something in, like let's say
a nice side by side that becomes the group's side
by side, even though I you know, I bought it,
it was mine before I joined the group. Now it's
become an integral part of the group, right, you know,
(47:43):
and then all of a sudden, of sudden, I'm leaving,
I'm gonna take my side by side. Now that sounds
like it's say that sounds like a nope brainer. Well, yeah,
it was yours before you came in. But think of
like a marriage, when you come into a marriage and
now it becomes jointly owned in a way.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
No, So it would be different if the person leaving
the group wasn't taking the side by side with them,
you know what I mean. If it was like somebody
that was staking. If it was staying and I've been
paying on this, you know, helping whatever, then you wouldn't
really throw a fit about it. But if the guy
all of a sudden, oh hey, now my side by
(48:23):
side is paid off, so like big old middle finger,
bye guys, then I would probably be a little bit like, guys,
that's a little messed up. You know, we really need
to discuss this. If it was something that was going
to stay all right, fine for it to go to right.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
So, I mean, there's all kinds of things that you
do have to worry about. And the last thing before
you go, because we do have to go on.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
This one, Oh oh god, dang, bro, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Is one thing that I've seen happen to, like in groups,
extramarital affairs. I have seen that destroy groups where everything's
all fun and one thing leads to another and then
this has been a wife. They get into an argument
and then this other you know guy there who's just
(49:15):
a friend and he really was, but he was there
emotionally to help her, and one thing leads to another
and boom and now next thing, you know, explosions, you know,
I mean, things go crazy and bad blood. So I mean,
that's why it's so important to find a group that
you meld with. I don't like using word morally, but
(49:38):
it's that kind that compass of we know what lines
we do.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Not lous well, like I got your wife, I got
your kids. I've got your wife, I've got your kids.
But the lines are drawn at a certain point that like, listen, bro,
your wife is your wife. Your wife is your wife.
Your kids are your kids. Now if something and bad happened,
care of them. I will take care of your kids,
(50:03):
and I will take care of your kids. But as
far as like any type of physicality, the lines are drawing.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Those are the kind of things that you have to
know going in because there are some weird groups out
there too, you know, sister wives and groups where it's like, oh,
we all love each other. It's like okay later by
yeah exactly okay, folks. So to round it all up,
groups are important. Tribe is important. Family is important. That
(50:36):
is important. It is important, and just be smart about it.
If it if it walks like a duck, it sounds
like a duck, it's probably a duck. So if it
smells bad and it's like I don't feel right about it.
There's something off here. Don't do it, you know. Thank you, guys,
because this is gonna be one of the most important
(50:56):
things that you end up doing in the prepping world
old when the shit hits the fans. Getting that tribe
and getting those family connections, yeah, don't forget guys. Join
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(51:18):
with your questions of comments and your ideas and closing
My brothers and my sisters and all tribe members out there,
remember please stay safe, stay strapped, and never ever panic.
Bonzi right.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Check it out, Check it out, Check it out,
Welcome to blitz Kreeg number eight. Yes, we are on
Blitzkrieg number eight right now. It is what is it's
August third of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It doesn't matter. You won't hear this for like three weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, I mean, because we're doing a marathon session of
a show's back to back to get them all recorded,
because you know how schedules go. But what is the Blitzkrieg.
It is our short format show where we try to
bring you one topic. We try to stay on topic
rather than going through the whole two to three hour
(00:37):
long format show that we have, which many of you love.
You love our banter, you love our fluff, but there's
times when you just want the solid information on the
one topic that's there. And today's topic is gonna be
brought to you by myself, Bondsi. We have Ox and
Booboo in the house. In the house, we're gonna talk
(01:00):
about community, We're gonna talk about tribe, We're gonna talk
about mags. What is a mag Mutual aid group or
mutual assistance group that you know, the acronym goes for
like different things, but basically it is about not being
a lone wolf. Prepper and not being that family of
four that ends up getting taken over. You've got to
(01:22):
sleep sometime. Even if your kids are older and they're
mid teens, let's say, and they can shoot and they
can help work. Still four of you is not enough.
So building a community for she hit the fan? What
(01:42):
is that we don't do notes on this show? I
always think of this. You're living in your suburban home.
It has just said that the stock market is dropping
for the ninth day in a row. People are now
racing to their banks to empty their accounts. Couple this
with an unstable euro and an unstable Middle East, a
(02:05):
world wicky economic procession, and you get the start of
hitting the fan. How does your neighborhood react to this?
Who in your neighborhood do you trust? Nobody unless they're
part of your group.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Now take that a step further and imagine a state
of civil unrest. Homes nearby are being looted, and undesirables
are now common in your neighborhood. You have a weapon,
but the occupants of your home include you, your wife,
and two small children. You have a front door, a
back door, and a garage door. How do you cover all.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Three much less the first floor windows. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Plus again, you have to sleep sometime.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Sorry. Some of the best exact.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Some of the best reasons to find or join or
start a group of your own their strength in numbers.
Being in a suburban area, I tend to worry about
what will happen when looters run them ug. I imagine
when the city has defaned, criminals will likely run in gangs.
Those gangs will target individual homes for looting and potentially
seek to oust the folks living there. They would target
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homes with a small number of occupants to make their
raids that much easier. So to avoid being in their crosshairs,
it would be optimal to be viewed as a large group.
These criminals will have quite a few homes to choose
from when things get tough, and there's no sense in
being an easy target. Remember, giving the perception of a
large force is enough to deter those with bad intentions.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, it's not even a large group. It's a large
group that knows how to move.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, yeah, that knows how to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Once I see that, they're like, Okay, we're not gonna
deal with them because they know what they're doing. We're
gonna stay far far away from them. We're actually gonna
give them what they want in a way, you know, right.
But uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now, another good point is more hands, more work done.
Continuing with the same theme of a group, the more
folks in that group, the more workers you have. Those
additional sets of hands will be able to help guarden, cook,
pack supplies, gather water, hunt for food. Well, you will
have to feed and care for those extra bodies. The
work you get for them should more than make up
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for it. I would much rather have five people forging
for food and supplies versus one, as time will be
of the essence. What's it doing now? Oh? I wouldn't
do that in here, dude, with all the all the
gunpowders all right, wow? Plus what's right next to you
(04:48):
mortar fireworks? Yeah, it's a bunch of seven inch mortars. Wow,
that would be fun, it would. Now. It also comes
to pre planning. Knowing you'll have a community of preppers
allows you to be proactive with planning. You now can
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request your neighbors start preparing by gathering suppliers, preparing their homes,
and getting their financials in order. You can even go
as far as planning the homes you will use for
what purpose. By having families that focus on particular area
of prepping. For instance, like let's say medical, your house
will be the like medical, your house will be the schoolhouse.
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Your house will be the you know, uh, food processing,
you know all that. What do you do?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Are you freaking yes?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You're coming down now. You're starting to get those like
when you start twisting.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
If we had a video right now, videos soon.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Exactly, you know, more supplies because everyone you know can't
can you know, like pitch in with their stuff. Companionship.
When the ship hits the fan, people will have a
hard time adjusting. You're gonna need that support of like
people together, you know, because we're all going to go
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through those hard times mentally, you know, when things start
getting really weird. And having a extended family a tribe,
you know, makes it that much easier for the people to.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I mean, it's not really extended family because mentor each other.
A lot of you guys are like family to me,
right to my family, so it's not extended in a way.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So now the scariest part, though, the scariest part is
if you're not in a group yet, is how do
you find a group or how do you start a group? Now?
Finding a group, Man, if you think dating is hard,
finding a group to mess your family with other families,
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oh yeah can be super difficult, super difficult.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well that's like I didn't even meet you until I
met another gentleman that told me, hey call him, you
know what I mean. So it's like I heard about
you to a guy that I really didn't even know,
and it was kind of like a friend of a
friend of a friend of a friend of a friend
of a friend, and then I met you and then
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it was like okay, cool, and then it was like well, hey,
by the way, do you know about this? And then
that turned into like a whole another frigging like yeah,
a whole another door opening topic. Yeah, and then I
met freaking like everybody else. And then even after that,
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it was still like, bro, you're still getting vetted. It
gets cool, like we're gonna know everything about you by
having this ship said and done, Like, bro, do you
all know people in FBI or some ship? No, because
that sh it's fake. We're going to find out the
real you. Like god, dang it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I moved in next to Sarch and one day past.
I was out doing the yard and all that. He
comes out and he's like talk to me. I'm like okay,
He's like I think you'd be a good fit. I'm
like what yep. Yeah, And then he was like me
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and my other colleague, we're talking about you. He lives
right over there. Yeah, and uh, he likes you a lot,
Like okay.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Like what do I need to hide? Like do I
need to wear like a certain like instrument?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Dude, this dude knew everything that he needed to know
about me before he even talked.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
About Oh yeah, it was cool, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But freaky at the same time. Like I went inside
to my wife, I'm like, we got to go.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Like b.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But it's a little scary and yeah. And then I
met him yea. And then I met you guys, like
this is cool, like this is something that we need
to have just in case, because he never brought it
in to realize that if some something hits the fan,
then we had nowhere to go. We actually have somewhere
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to go.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, And you know that's the thing too, is like
when you look at it, like, yes, I have somewhere
to go, but there's there's even more to it than that.
It's like, now I have somewhere that like I can
take the skills that I know you as a mechanic,
mean as welder, and we can employ those skills to
try to make everything better, to make everything better for us.
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Like you know, heaven forbid anything actually does happen, and
it may never in our lifetime right now, but if
it does, we can be like, hey, dude, we did
everything that we could to the best of our ability
well to try to help mitigate you know, those to
the impact that it's going to cause in our lives.
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And plus then we have each other that we can
lean on, you know, when we have an issue or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
We also have youngins that we've taught everything we know to,
you know, the generation that may go through that situation, and.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
They're all getting familiar with each other as well, so
that it's kind of like, you know, they don't have
to go through trying to find a group. Who's trying
to find a group. I've been doing this for thirty years. Yeah,
and I've been part of several different groups and really
every single one ended up self destructive. Yeah, you know,
usually because who's got the biggest swinging dick. Someone wants
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to be in charge and this, that and the other,
and you know, or you know, everything seems to be fine,
they seem to be normal, and then all of us
sudden they start talking racist ship or like violence stuff
or no it's like, no, that's not what we're about, man.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, you know so, Like I listen to time, I
don't care what kind of baggage you've got. I just
want to survive with my family, you know what I mean? Like,
I don't really care if you are like an anti
semi Yeah, that is your own business.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Keep it to yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah. Like, dude, if you want to run around, like
I said earlier on I think episode I don't know
six with your dog mask. Bro, you do you brother?
But you do that somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Around my family.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, don't do that shit around my family. And you
know what, we can all like co mingle and get
along and have a good time.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
And that's what's so good about ours, our group, that
is that we can bring our families around.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
If we're not, you don't have to worry about the
crazy show.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I could leave my family with you or you worth
anybody else in the group and not we'll have to
worry about what going on.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, and you know, I was at that's a really
good point because that's what I stick some ring up. Like,
I know, like, you come over to my house, do
we know, during a couple of beers having the time,
you know, and dude, you've got the freaking door code
to my house. You got yeah, Dude, Like I left
to go on vacation. I'm like, hey, bro, if you
don't mind, you know, would you please go ride by
my house and you know, make sure the cast dogs,
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the ship's okay, that ship's okay, even a ranch.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And he's like, bro, I got you. Yeah, don't worry
about it. I'm like, cool, have fun. I don't have
to worry about it exactly. You know. For the three
or four days I was gone, that was like the
least of my concern because I'm like, dude, my brother
has got my ship taken care of for me, or like.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And We've seen throughout the incarnations of various groups that
you'll get some people that are really good people and
you kind of try and stay in contact with them.
So when you find another group, you kind of try.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
To bring them over.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And the group that we have now really is the
culmination of like three or four different groups that we've
taken the best out of out of all of them.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I mean maybe I would say I haven't met
a whole bunch of them yet because well I don't
ever see them training.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Well that's yeah something, But.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Just throw my sucker in the
dur and there for a second.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So now I got you.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah, if you are gonna start a group of your
own because you don't know anyone around, or you've checked
and there are there are no established groups in your
area and you.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Want to start your own, here's some key things that
you can look.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
At, but be careful.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Well, of course, of course you have to vet people.
But before the thing of vetting, if you like, when
you're sitting down first trying to say, okay, what will
we need you know, uh, in terms of in terms
of what type of skills and things like that think
you're gonna need. Uh, Let's look at the example. If
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your mag has a dozen one dozen adults, and then
your handy person might be able to patch a roof
with scavenge supplies, perform basic plumbing and electrical and build
outputtings and such. They can do some maintenance and keep
equipment running that might not be able to manufacture parts
they need for indepth rebuilds of a generator engine. But
if your mag has one hundred adults and the handy
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person might be spread across, you know several you know
several other people. Sure, so you may need you know,
a builder, someone that knows how to build out buildings, houses,
you know basic, you know basic architecture and structure, wood frame,
concrete block.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And that's the thing. Like, even with a builder like
you just brought up, he does not have to have
an engineering degree. Right If the dude is seventy years
old and he built his friggin house on his friggin
farm somewhere God knows in Montana, Wyoming, West Virginia and
it's still standing, listen, listen to the old guy. He
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probably knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And yeah, don't turn away people just because they are old.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, they may not be able to run and go.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Wealth of knowledge, but they teach caregiver. Not only will
there be children to watch, there'll be older people in
the group that will eventually need cares the age or
others will need help from recovering from an injury caregivers
watch kids and seniors are like, so adults can focus
on their specialties without worrying about the kids.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, and caregivers in that same category. That's where you
and I don't. I haven't seen your list. Yeah, but
that's where like teachers fall in. Yes, that way. You know,
your kids don't basically grow up incompetent. So if you've
got somebody that is capable of taking care of your
kids and giving them an education as well, you know,
while they might not be like solely suited to taking
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care of like the elderly and stuff like that, they
are a perfect fit. If you can find somebody with
any type of educational background, if you can find I
don't care if it's K three like kindergarten teacher, I
don't care. But they have the heart for it. And
that's the biggest thing. If you can find somebody with
a heart for that particular set, dude, that is a
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huge benefit.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Because again, when people think about prepres and survivalists, they think, oh,
everyone's got a gun and everyone is a young like
mister Rambay. No, you will have people there that don't
know how to shoot. I mean, of course, we're always
willing to teach them if they want to learn. Oh yeah,
but again, if they're a doctor, if they're a teacher, if.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
They're listen, and if you want to see a great
movie that is a prime example of what BONDSI is
talking about. Neil McDonald in Homestead. Oh yeah, because that dude.
The movie is phenomenal. I have not seen the TV
series yet is supposed to I think follow it. But
the movie will show you a prime example of how
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people that don't actually know like certain skills will learn
other people's skills to help, like benefit the whole community.
It's great, it's phenomenal movie. Please.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You're gonna need, of course, people to run you know,
communications equipment. You're gonna need doctor. I don't like medical.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I don't what you got my comms. You got my comms,
specs got my medical.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You need people there that know how to raise animals.
That's like with you. You know, I got you because
it hits the fan. You're gonna need food, you need
You're gonna need to know how to grow food, how
to raise animals for food, and how to procure food
from doing you know, scavenging.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
If it grows in the dirt, unscrewed. If it grows
above the dirt, I'm good. It's like I got. It
is great with the stuff that grows in the dirt,
you know. Oh, how are those mangoes amazing? Nuts? Dude,
you got macadamia nuts. I'm gonna pissed off right now
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what we have. I'mtual mess him up right now. You
don't even know you have here, Like you didn't give
me the big tree. I don't pendud, I don't pay
attention to ship.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I'll give you some nuts when we get back after.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh I bet you will.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, that's besides the point.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yea, not those nuts, folks.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
But you know, and you can even break that down further, like,
let's say, for instance, our goats, right, I can't milk
my goats because of my back it, you know, the
position that you have to be in.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But he can. But he's still.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But if you someone that can focus on that one thing, right,
you teach him how to you teach him how to
milk the goats. And that's their job twice a day
because you've got to do it every day or the
goat dries up and then they don't give milk anymore.
So you know, you have someone that focus. That's all
they do. They you know, they they they pulled it
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twice a day, twice a day, like we got thirty
goats right now.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You know, I've got a nineteen year old son that
would love that job.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Hey, And then you know, you could even take it
through like the extent because if that only takes like
two hours in the morning and two hours at night,
let's say they still have more time.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, okay, then set them up with Okay, this is
how you make butter from that. So you take the
milk that you have done, a certain amount of it
stays for drinking, a certain amount of it goes for butter,
and a certain amount of it goes for like making
cheese and teach how to do those things. And that's
their job done. Period. Again. That's why if you have
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a family of three or four or five, you get done.
You can't get all that stuff done between separity and
fixing and growing and raising and milking.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And well, and that's the thing is, I mean, if
you didn't have to worry about security, everything else, everything else,
you could get done. You really could, You really could,
because dude, look at it like this. Everybody from I
don't know, like I don't know the dawn of time
until today. If you live on a ranch and you've
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got like your wife and your kids and everything else,
you could do it. People have done it forever. But
as soon as you as soon as you add in security,
that's where I mean, even if you look at ancient times,
that's when you're like, bro, I cannot milk my goddang goat,
or milk my cow, or fix my fence or build this.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Wall while I'm trying to fight off them, while.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm trying to fight off everybody that's trying to get
all my shit. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
No, it is impossible.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And then you know, once you figure in like you
were talking about, you know, people that will take care
of your kids while you're doing that. People will patch
you up whenever you get your sword slice. You physically
can't do it by yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, that's why you had hunter gatherer groups. Yeah, tribes, tribe, tribe,
you know, small villages. Now, there is an optimal number too, though,
you know anything, The optimal number that I've seen that
I've talked to people I've researched is really anywhere from
about twenty to fifty or sixty people. When you start
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getting above the sixty number, you look throughout history, most
tribes peaked out between one hundred and one hundred and fifty.
Because at that point it starts getting almost like a
little town, and it starts becoming political. I mean, just
that's that's human nature, that's just how we are. You
start getting clicks that that's are like you know, breaking in.
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There's a lot of things for all the bad things
of communism, but you know, because it is for a country,
it's horrible. Oh, for freedom, it's horrible. But when you're
dealing on like a small tribe or villages level, when
you're on a micro level, when you're on a micro level,
some of it is common sense. We all work together
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to grow food and raise animals.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yes, you know, but at that point it's not really
And I would agree with you right for the most part,
because yes, I understand how like the theory of communism works.
But where you where the downfall of communism is is
it becomes then you get a lazy person, yes, and
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then they're like, yeah, they're not going to do anything,
but they still want to share in the bounty of
everybody else.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And at that point, you also get the split of
the those who lead and those who are the right
that don't. So then so but like when it's kept smaller.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Then yes, it does work to a certain degree. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So you've got your security, you've got your food, You've
got all these things that have to be done. So
if you're going to start your group yourself, you have
to vet people, you know, to understand.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Who they are.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And you know, it's like a job in of you
in a way. You know, if you've ever been a
manager at a store or at any kind of business,
you can, if you're decent, you can tend to re people.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Like quickly, very quickly, within five minutes. I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's like you knew I was a freak immediately.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh I mean, well that was only because you tried
to do dirty things to me almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you do have to be very
very discerning because remember, these people are going to be
around your family, around your kids.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
That kind of terrifies me some days.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
So you heard that he doesn't know, So you've got
to be very careful about the type of people that
you bring in. Hey, you've got to it's not necessarily
that you have to have all the same beliefs. A
group can be a mix of Christians and Atheists and
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Jews and whatnot. You know, as long as everyone respects
each other, yes, but there are certain groups that may
not so mingle. Like if if there's a certain religion,
let's say that believes that it's okay to touch kids.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Then you're gonna end up in the wood chipper, right,
whatever it is exactly, you.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Know what I mean, Or that it's okay to treat
women like people. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Goodbye, never mind, car.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So there's a certain amount of me and.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
The wife actually had a conversation about today, But I digress.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
There's a certain amount of common belief you have to have,
at least on a basic I'm not even sure if
I want to use the word moral light level, but
just just the basic understanding of right and wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Once you get past that, then yeah, maybe sometimes personalities
just don't click, but you don't have to overlook things
like if this guy is a doctor, and he's an
awesome doctor, he may be a dick, super arrogant, you
know what I mean, but you know that he is
going to be a massive asset. Maybe you will be
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able to look over certain personality flaws, you know, up
to a point. I mean, if if they start getting
you know, abusive, that's another story, yeah, you know, But
if it's just yeah, the guy can be an asshole sometimes.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah, you know, if you catch anybody on any
given bad day, you can be an asshole. I don't
you a damn how nice of a guy you are, Like, dude,
I will tell you right now, if you catch me
on seven out of ten business days, I'm probably an asshole.
That's just how it goes. I don't try to be,
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but you know, sometimes that's just how it works. I
don't I don't try to throw a fit, I don't
try to start a fire.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
But you caught me out at that time.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, dude, Like, you're a freaking dumbass, and it's not
my fault. I'm sorry now.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
There are so many benefits to be in a actual
prepper group. Think of this also trading and bartering. You know,
even if they're not part of your inner circle. Because
you have different levels. You have your core group, you
can have a secondary one where you do do things together,
but you may not have that super close bond, and
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then you can have your like third tier out where
you don't you work together in in the aspect like
I know that Joe that lives on the other side
of town. Yeah he raises chickens. Yeah, you know, I don't.
He's a good guy. You now. Maybe now, maybe we
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don't hang all the time, maybe we don't actually work
together all the time. But I know that if the
shit hits the fan, I can call him on the
radio and we could still trade and barter, even though
we have two different groups, you know. But it's that
network of people that you know, he may know someone
even like it's like, hey, Bob man, I know we
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don't you know, work that much together. Thanks for that
last thing of eggs that you gave us. It was awesome.
Do you know anyone that knows how to X, Y
and Z, and then he may be able to hook
you up. So you have your different levels too. You've
got your tight group that you consider family, that is
your tribe, that is your you know, hardcore center. Then
you've got your you know, your next level where they
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know where you live. If the shit hits the fan,
they are welcome to come and work with you. They
may still stay in their place, but you'll work together,
you know, quite closely. Then you have your third tier
out where it's people that you know. They may have
a skill or something, but they're not part of the group,
but they're part of the network, and you know you
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may be in trouble. Some bad guys are attacking. You know,
it's like, hey, we're under attack, can you guys come
and flank them, you know something, drop everything and go right,
you know, And and they will come even though they're
not part of your group per se. They know that
if someone happens to them, you'd be over there to
help them too.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Sorry, folks, getting sick again. No, dude, I don't. I
don't know what that was. I'm not sure I had
something in my throat it had to come out.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I don't know, boo boom, but it was no wow.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So that's why the you know what so important to do,
because when you bet someone, it's you're you're getting to
know them and their personality. They're likes, they're dislikes.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Well that was like you told me the other day,
whenever we were talking, you were like, dude, when I
first met you, I thought you were a dick bag.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
No, but that's cool. Like, dude, it is entirely fine.
I'm not even mad about it. Yeah, but you told
me you were Like, dude, I thought you were a
freaking asshole. But look at us now, I know, did
you come over to the house. We sit out and
Barry hang out. Like but that's okay. But that's why
it's important to like get to actually know people, because
people aren't always what they like. What the the first
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persona you see is not always what you get. Like
you might you might find somebody that you're like, dude,
this freaking guy is gonna be a perfect fit for
our group, and the next thing you know, he turns
out to be like a frigging yeah yeah, and he
might be a frigging pedophile, and you know he might
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be a freaking vegan and he doesn't know how to
do anything other than literally just talk shit. Yeah well
at that point, what good is that person?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And that's fine. Yeah, you do not have to accept
everyone into your tribe.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's like finding out the alphas and betas and yeah, right, dude, Because.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I mean, there were certain people that are born leaders.
There are some people can become leaders. They may not
be a born leader, but through.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Through time and experience they can become.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
And a lot of it. Also, a good leader, in
my eyes, is not just someone that can lead, is
also someone that knows who knows more than them. Like
for instance, I may be because we kind of have
like a tripe, like a like a three headed like leadership.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Something I don't know, but it works for us. It does.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
But it's like, for instance, I know what my limitations
are if it comes to.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Until you hurt your back and yeah, you know, like
like certain things with like security.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You know, I know a lot about security, but I'm
not a combat veteran. So if we think we may
be getting into some kind of an altercation, I'm gonna say, hey,
what do we do? You are the guy that's the
expert on this, tell me what should we do? Now?
If I'm the leader at the time being a good leader,
(32:16):
I'm going to take your advice, you know, and I
may act on it. I'm but I may be like,
you know, maybe we shouldn't do that, but at least
I'm going to go to you. I'm seeking advice. Or
it's like, you know, why are all our trees dying?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
But it's you know, it's the closure that it's coming
from us to tell you that it's okay what you
got to do and we'll do what we need.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I used to like to. I mean, dude, you guys
ever watch Stargate Atlantis at all? Okay, god dang it, no, no, no,
but okay, but remember when doctor Weir was in charge.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Civilian you didn't know everything.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
That's why she leaned on Shepherd when it came to
like military.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Okay, well you're talking to people that probably might not
know star I.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Know, I know, but I'm saying, you know, she was
the civilian organ. She was, she was the leader. But
then you had Shepherd, who was like the head of
the like security and like military part of it. Then
you had uh uh well that was different. Then you
(33:35):
had uh uh the uh doctor, the Scottish dude, I
forgot his name now, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
But so you've got these different I can yelled at
today for watching Star Trek. Okay, I'm not Yeah, dude,
I got yelled after watching Star Track. She's like, you're
a freaking geek.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I'm like, well, she already calls you a tactical.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Geek.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
So but the point is is.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Your group has I told her, I like, you'll need
me one day, Yeah, one.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Day, and it's not always gonna miss. But that's where
you try to find people that have their expertise. And
if you are going to be the leader, understand that
you don't know everything and you are going to need
people that may be more experienced with you, yep, but
than you in those certain fields.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And you also have to realize as a leader, even
after you like accumulate all that knowledge, you are still
responsible for the decisions that you make. Like if I
ask you and you and I'm like, bro, what do
y'all think about this? What are we gonna do? The
trees are dying and you told me any more water,
(34:52):
you don me any more fertilizer? Okay, well cool, I
think any more fertilizer. Let's try that. Now they're dead
because we burnt the freaking roots out of them. Right,
who's responsible for that ship? You are the person that
made the fucking call decision, right, So you have got
to be willing to not only learn from others, but
(35:15):
you have got to be willing to like take responsibility
for the decisions that are made based on the information
that you're given.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You can't turn around and say, why did you tell
me to do that? You're freaking in No, you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Have to literally be like, bro, I did the best
I could. I made the wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
That's hard for a man to do because they are
alpha or whatever it is, and they're like, yeah, whatever
you say, I don't care. Yeah, I'm gonna try what
a portion of what they're they're saying, and they do it,
and then you know, yeah, there.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And for a man, like you said, that's difficult. But
again it boils down to, well, who knows more about
this ship like you were talking about, who knows more
about it than I do? Because, like I said, if
it goes in the ground, sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
That's why you gotta trust everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
In your right. You have to trust them. And because
I honestly God, if it goes more or freak or whatever,
I can make that ship live. But if it doesn't,
all right, sorry, you know a lot more than that. Yeah,
But like I get it, that's just how it goes.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
When it comes down to it, folks, tribe, community, It's
going to be survival, it is going to be everything. Yeah,
so do your best. I know for a lot of
people that are just now tuning in.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
This guy's done run this episode longer than all of them.
You know why he's talking? Keep missing me up like that,
it's going to go longer. It's cool. I like it.
Go ahead. We turned in a whole episode two and
a half hours. Hey is, folks, sitting down and buckle in.
(37:03):
Here we go important. No, this is important.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
See now I totally lost my train of thought on
on like that, say it is?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I mean, but.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay. The point is community, family, tribe is going to
be one of the most important things.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
However, do not get locked up in the shed behind
the place, because well, you.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Never know what's gonna come at you. A family of
four cannot do it. Even they lone Wolf Prepper. How
many mountain men would go out to like, oh, I'm
gonna live on my own, and some of them did
make it for several years. But all it takes is
one injury out there by yourself with one hand.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Who did that?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, exactly, there are It's a very small number.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, all right, because all it takes is getting sick
one time, and there's injured or injury.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Well, I mean, even if you watched even now where
they do like those reality shows where you know, homeboy
gets sick or like you said, he gets hurt. Ye,
homeboy gets a freaking cut. That ship's in fact being Yeah,
and the guy is seventy five years old and literally
knows how to do it. But all of a sudden,
(38:35):
you know, he has four fever. He us he is
so sick he can't do it.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And he's septick, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Boom yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Some archaeologist finds his body three hundred.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Years later, you know, yeah, I mean it happens, it
really does.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
So folks, I know some of you out there who
are just getting into prepping right now. You don't know
what to do, You don't know who to go to.
There's a there are weird people out there. There are
bad people out there that say their preppers, that that
say they want to help, but they're actually going to
try to pray on you as well.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
If I can make a suggestion real quick, find people
that are older than you, that no more than you do.
Not come in there like we were talking about before.
Don't go in there thinking that you know everything, because
I promise you your scope of knowledge is incredibly small.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I've been doing this for over thirty years, and when I.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Used to teach life what I was talking about, right,
I used.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
To teach live classes, you know at the church and
everything on these topics. Every now and then I would
get the person introducing me. They would introduce me as
a prepping or survival expert or whatever, and I'd.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Be like, nodings.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
First, folks, I am not an expert. Yeah, I'm learning
just like everyone else here. I know there are people
in this room right now that more than I do.
And I've and I've said i had a class of
sixty people like one time, and I'm like, if at
any point during my class, you think I'm wrong on
some point or you have some knowledge that I don't have.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
It, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Raise your hand and I'll bring you up here and
we can teach together on that topic because that's what
it's about. And I've done that before where I've actually
brought the person up and be like, hey, you seem
to have a better grasp on that than I do.
Please tell me, you know, give me your advice on this.
And then it ended up being a co taught class,
(40:40):
like the last half of the class.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, but what does that do to that person?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
It brings them closer to absolutely.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Okay, this guy's gonna work for a group and then
we're gonna bring them in.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Well, it not only brings them closer, but then then
you gain that knowledge. Yes, so you can take that
back to your group and you know, and it's like
anything else, there's always that give and take. There's the
ebb and flow, and you know, if somebody does know,
it's like you said, the most important thing is you
don't know everything right now. So if you can learn
(41:15):
to do it, yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Because you know it's wrong, you're gonna learn something out
of it.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean yeah, like you said, even if
something is oh, well this guy, I don't think he's right. Yeah,
well maybe not everything he said is right, but makes
a valid point. There is a valid point somewhere in
there that is possible that it can benefit everybody.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Like we've been through like the trainings and everything, and
I'm like more on the aspect of the new age
and then everybody's like, okay, we gotta do this. I'm like,
well what about this? Yeah, and everybody he's like I
didn't think about that, or you know, when you bring
it up, what about this? And you know, the leader
(42:05):
that's doing the training is like, I didn't think about.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
That, but you know what, dude, But that's okay because
how it goes because I promise you that there are
like and I I do again like he said, I
will never profess to be an expert. Never. But dude,
if you got a valid point, let's hear you. Yes,
I want to hear what you have to say because
(42:28):
it may or may not at the end of the
day benefit me. Yeah, so let's rip it.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Let's go now with what we know is coming. But
we don't know how much time we have. It could
be a week, it could be a month, it could
be five years, it could be ten years. We don't know.
And building a good, solid core group does take time.
So the best thing to do is to start now.
If you're trying to do it yourself, the better thing
(42:58):
possibly is to look for it a stab with this
group and make yourself valuable to them. That way you
don't have to go through that. But sometimes they are
hard to find because a lot of groups don't want
to be found. Yeah, you know, they don't advertise, not
like back in the eighties when literally you looked in
the class American Survival guys.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, I mean that's back when I got started and
I was communicating with these prepper groups around the country,
you know, I mean it was it was weird back.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
And you know what, like, if you are trying to
look hook up with a local mag wherever you're at,
there are a lot of really good resources some of
them are And dude, freaking I hate that. Like through
this guy out there, it seems like every time we talk. Yeah,
but bear independent, dude. He has got literally a thing
(43:58):
on his website that is connect with people around you,
and you can look it up by your state, by
your county, wherever you're at. But I don't even know
if I think maybe they do my zip code now,
I don't know. I used to do something so but
it will tell you exactly where to Hey, these are
the people in your area.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Remember that map that's on the wall in the other
building and it's got those circles all over. I used
to do something similar to that, and I had these
groups I had to contact information. So if someone said, hey,
I'm in South Dakota, I'd be like, oh, let me
call these people here, you know, hook up whatever. I
stopped doing that a while back simply because of time
(44:40):
and everything else.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
It's a lot of effort. It's a ton of effort.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Because I really needed to focus on our tribe.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yes. Now, well, and that's why I brought up Bear,
because I'm like, dude, he literally has a website. It's
a website.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
It's a website done that.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
It will take you to South Florida's, Central Florida, North Florida,
Frank and George, wherever the hell you're at, and then
it will connect you with people feeling. This is not
the first group I have been a part of, and
I will tell you right now, this one feels like home.
I have been to a couple of them that I
(45:14):
was like, dude, there is no way in hell I'm
getting wrapped up in these people because it's not stuff
they said, but it was their requirements. It was like, oh, well,
you have to have this and you have to do that,
and you have and I'm like, I don't have to
I don't have to do anything. But whenever a group
(45:36):
of people, right, but when you meet up with a
group of people and they're like, hey, what do you know?
What are your skills? How can you help us? And
then let's figure it out instead of you have to you.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Have you have to, dude. That's one of the things
that that somebody, Oh, if you want to be a
part of the group, you have to pay dues. Sometimes
it was low, like twenty five bucks a month whatever,
you know, but still it's like, well, you know what,
I start getting into financials and other legal stuff, like hey,
let's get thirty people and let's buy a one hundred
(46:13):
acre piece of property.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And then and you know what, I honestly I would
not have a problem with that does but I wouldn't
have a problem.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
It gets but it gets really it gets really tangled though.
When when then people, Okay, so now you've bought into
this property. Now you've all built up, and now you've
added buildings and this, that and the other, and now
change right and then yeah, as you want to leave,
you want to or whatever, how do you start? Okay, well,
(46:42):
how much do we owe you to buy out your share?
And you know.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That's where it becomes complicated.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, exactly. So I mean, I'm not saying it can't work,
but it can get messy, you know, no.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
It absolutely can. And that's where you have to realize too.
Going into a mag especially if there are dues. You
have to understand that, you know, if there are you know,
twenty dollars a month or whatever, that is for the
benefit of the tribe. If you choose to leave the tribe,
that's kind of on you, right, yeah, so you have
(47:19):
to be willing to take that loss.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Right, I mean, you can't like the money. But I've
seen because I've seen this happen before. Okay, so where,
well where they will bring something in, like let's say
a nice side by side that becomes the group's side
by side, even though I you know, I bought it,
it was mine before I joined the group. Now it's
become an integral part of the group, right, you know,
(47:43):
and then all of a sudden, of sudden, I'm leaving,
I'm gonna take my side by side. Now that sounds
like it's say that sounds like a nope brainer. Well, yeah,
it was yours before you came in. But think of
like a marriage, when you come into a marriage and
now it becomes jointly owned in a way.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
No, So it would be different if the person leaving
the group wasn't taking the side by side with them,
you know what I mean. If it was like somebody
that was staking. If it was staying and I've been
paying on this, you know, helping whatever, then you wouldn't
really throw a fit about it. But if the guy
all of a sudden, oh hey, now my side by
(48:23):
side is paid off, so like big old middle finger,
bye guys, then I would probably be a little bit like, guys,
that's a little messed up. You know, we really need
to discuss this. If it was something that was going
to stay all right, fine for it to go to right.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
So, I mean, there's all kinds of things that you
do have to worry about. And the last thing before
you go, because we do have to go on.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
This one, Oh oh god, dang, bro, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Is one thing that I've seen happen to, like in groups,
extramarital affairs. I have seen that destroy groups where everything's
all fun and one thing leads to another and then
this has been a wife. They get into an argument
and then this other you know guy there who's just
(49:15):
a friend and he really was, but he was there
emotionally to help her, and one thing leads to another
and boom and now next thing, you know, explosions, you know,
I mean, things go crazy and bad blood. So I mean,
that's why it's so important to find a group that
you meld with. I don't like using word morally, but
(49:38):
it's that kind that compass of we know what lines
we do.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Not lous well, like I got your wife, I got
your kids. I've got your wife, I've got your kids.
But the lines are drawn at a certain point that like, listen, bro,
your wife is your wife. Your wife is your wife.
Your kids are your kids. Now if something and bad happened,
care of them. I will take care of your kids,
(50:03):
and I will take care of your kids. But as
far as like any type of physicality, the lines are drawing.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Those are the kind of things that you have to
know going in because there are some weird groups out
there too, you know, sister wives and groups where it's like, oh,
we all love each other. It's like okay later by
yeah exactly okay, folks. So to round it all up,
groups are important. Tribe is important. Family is important. That
(50:36):
is important. It is important, and just be smart about it.
If it if it walks like a duck, it sounds
like a duck, it's probably a duck. So if it
smells bad and it's like I don't feel right about it.
There's something off here. Don't do it, you know. Thank you, guys,
because this is gonna be one of the most important
(50:56):
things that you end up doing in the prepping world
old when the shit hits the fans. Getting that tribe
and getting those family connections, yeah, don't forget guys. Join
the Saint Cloud Prepper group on Facebook Saint Cloud Prepping
and Surviving. Check out the podcast page on Facebook, the
Bonzi Prepping Podcast. Email us anytime at bonsidmfradio dot com
(51:18):
with your questions of comments and your ideas and closing
My brothers and my sisters and all tribe members out there,
remember please stay safe, stay strapped, and never ever panic.
Bonzi right.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
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