April 23, 2024 • 35 mins
On this episode of; "Barguments the Podcast" - hosts Dan "Bass" Levy and Joe Kelly are joined by Life coach and author of the new book; The Power of Personality - Eric Gee! Together they #Bargue over the following topics:
- If an alien were to ascend upon us, what celeb, athlete, or politician would you send to negotiate peace?
- Who's the most iconic 90s TV star ever?
- and much much more.
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- If an alien were to ascend upon us, what celeb, athlete, or politician would you send to negotiate peace?
- Who's the most iconic 90s TV star ever?
- and much much more.
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Arguments is recorded in front of alive studio audience. What's up, everybody,
Welcome in, Barginers everywhere, Welcometo another episode of Argument. It's
alongside my co host East Coast Elitistand my karaoke host himself, Go Kelly,
Thank you Dan. I resent thatcomment, but I respect it.
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Well. If you didn't make sucha good Philly cheeseteak, you'd have been
out of this podcast a long timeago. That's fair. Today is an
especially exciting episode because it's released dayfor our guest author, Ladies and gentlemen,
Eric g What up? Eric?What's up? How's it going?
Good? Good? I like thatway for your friend. You know,
resent it, but you know respectit. I think I got to use
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that resented and respected. That mightbe uh, I might have to go
in the back of the T shirtswere releasing shortly. Well, Hey,
congrats to you The Power of Personality, your new book. It is available
today. Check it out Amazon,Barnes, and Noble wherever else you get
your books. Eric again, welcometo the podcast. Congrats on this.
Oh, thanks for having me andyeah, I'm excited to be here.
All right, So tell me whatit's like because you are. You're basically
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a life coach, and you're aguy who gives positive, positive vibes out
there for everybody. Tell me whatit's like. How does one be like,
you know what, forgot being adoctor, forget being a neurosurgeon or
a lawyer. I'm going to tellother people what they could do for their
life, right. You know.It's so I always tell the story like
this New Year's I was chucking oysterswith my cousin's kid, or I was
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teaching him how to chuck oysters,and you know, he's he just finished
pharmacy school. And I was like, oh, so, like what do
you what do you want to do? And he's like, you know,
I don't know, but as longas they don't have to stay in the
same place for the whole day.I was like, oh, you picked
the wrong job, you know.And I was like, oh, maybe
you want to like try like pharmaceuticalsales. That gets you out, you
know, you need to be ableto travel. And he was just like,
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well, you know, but Idid pharmacy school. I don't want
to waste the you know, allthe knowledge that I gained. And I'm
just like, yeah, but youonly got one life. You don't want
to waste that. Dude, Iwas gonna say, who cares? Yeah,
yeah exactly, it's like you andhe's like, no, that's a
good point. So I spend mostof my days doing that pretty much.
It's just like figuring out what peoplewant and it's kind of like pushing them
towards that. So it's it's nobigga, what were you on? What
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were you doing before then? Didsomebody tell you how to do this kind
of stuff for like, hey,you should do that for a living?
Yeah? Well I think I stilllive that way now. I'm like,
am I doing the right thing?I don't know, you know, Like,
and I had that really early on, and I kind of just studied
like personality theory, personality typing,the idea that people are very different.
And I went through all that theoryand then I came out the other end
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through different experiences, and I hadenough information to write a book. Yeah.
So I did create my own educationcompany and I had that for ten
years. So that's kind of whereI did a lot of my research research.
But I'm not like plugging people upinto cables or are you Yeah?
That was quite that was quite animage. You paid him for somebody who
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doesn't do such things very good nodeson their forehead and feed them like sloth
from the Goonies. There you go, There you go. Yeah, now
that's the visual. There we go, Eric, I may want to internally
that sounds kind of fun. Comeon, do Come on, dude,
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So, as a life coach,tell me about a couple of good basic
personalities because in like Joe and Iwork in media, so I think we
see every personality type you can possiblyfrom the narcissis to a lot of alphas
walking around a lot of people whoare following the alphas. A lot of
people are kind of where you are, and especially in today's day and age,
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Joe, like I kind of wantto do something different for a living.
How does one go? I mean, is there a way to change
a personality type? Is there away to be one of those guys that's
I'm not an alpha and now here'sa way to be coming? Or is
it just are you that personality andthat's that is what it is? You
know, that's like one of themost common questions, Like yeah, because
you know, everybody likes the ideaof change, and I'm always just like
you you can't change, but wegrow, you know, so we grow
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into better versions of ourselves, orwe can grow into worse versions of ourselves.
Because if you you know, likenot everyone like, if you grow
up and you're like a little irresponsible, Like, it doesn't mean that you're
destined to be irresponsible, but itprobably means that you you're destined to be
more spontaneous and more flexible and theability to adapt, and that's really important,
you know, versus like, soit probably means you're not going to
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be a pharmacist, but you mightbe pretty successful as a businessman, you
know, gotcha. Yeah. Ialways say dogs don't grow into cats,
they grow or puppies don't grow intocats, they grow into dogs, right,
so you know that's true. Butsome small like I said, well,
how does it go with small dogs, usually think that uh, small
dogs small smaller dogs are usually thatthey are bigger dogs. Oh yeah,
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we can, we can definitely,I mean, we grow when we grow
into better versions of ourselves, wedefinitely get stronger. Can you hear me
real quick? Yeah? I canhear you. Thank you? What about
now? Can you hear me now? Yeah? I can hear you?
One two, one too? Allright, somebody, uh, somebody just
had to switch up functionhot, Okay, this will be this part will be
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marked. So when you immediately howlong does it take you to be in
a room, like say you jumpedin with Joe and I. How long
does it take you to figure outexactly what personality types we are? You
know, it just depends on theperson. You know, some personality types
are a lot more flashier, They'rea lot easier to see. Also,
sometimes people when people are not asconfident in themselves, then they're a little
bit harder to read, right becausethey're not really acting like themselves. They
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do a lot of different things thatare kind of not necessarily consistent. So
it's more consistent confident that someone is, the more consistent they are knowing what
you do. Do people sometimes actdifferently around you because they know what you
do and they don't want to beread. So you know, you're trying
not to be read so quickly,or we're trying to hide it to your
personality in a certain way. Youknow. I try not to mention what
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I do, and I think ingeneral people are really excited about it.
So funny enough, like when Imention it, like generally speaking, like,
people just want to what am Ilike? Let me, let me
answer some questions, ask me somequestions. You know. That's why I
wrote the book. Was I originallywas writing screenplays and pilots here in LA
and in my writer's group, wewould start, we'd go to bars and
we just start talking about stuff,and this topic invariably came up, and
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someone was just like, you know, should write a book on this.
And I was like, oh,okay, maybe I will. And that's
what happened, and you actually dida lot of people say you should write
a book on these things, nobodyactually doesn't. Yeah, you know,
I took a while, I didn'tdo it. I was like, no,
I'm going to write my pilot aboutmy sex addicted rabbit. And I
was doing that story. It's agreat pilot, by the way, people
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should buy. A friend of mineput the ideas and she perried into the
TV show she was writing for.Ah, So like, if it's you
know that funny enough to like andentertaining enough to be put into a show,
then episode, then I should writea book on the thing that I've
always the thing I've always gotten aboutmy personality. I've always tell people that
when I've described myself as a personality, I'm always a puppy in a room
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full of adults with treats. Iam just happy to be places. But
I've always had it in my lifewhere you either really like me or you
really hate me. And it's allbecause I have no idea how to like
be anything else. So either peopleare really that I could come off too
strong, or I can come offlike, oh, that's the kind of
guy I want to hang out with. So I've always it's never been in
the middle. I don't have agreat area Like no one ever says Dan
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Levy's an okay guy. It's usuallyI love that guy, or I can
see very quickly I've already made anemphasis because I imagine you're pretty honest with
your thoughts. Sometimes yes, sometimesno, I've just got of I'm just
a little more. I don't know, Joe, Am I honest with my
thoughts? People? All right?Maybe I am. Maybe that was a
fast Yes, yeah, I've hadthat ready for a while, even before
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we knew coming on today, thatwas the wholestter for a while. You
can always say I resent that,but I respect it. Hashtag hashtag but
there's I've always had that issue.I've never I've always like, I've never
tried to come off as a personthat's not nice. I mean I even
trying to, even when I'm notbeing honest, or if I'm just in
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a room full of people and thisway I am with you. It is
just I've always been an extrovert,somebody who's not afraid to talk, not
afraid to say hello to people,and sometimes it comes off well, sometimes
it doesn't. I feel like sometimespeople at your worst, do you feel
people think you're narcissistic or do youthink people think you're preachy at your worst?
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It's a good question. Well,I think in order to be in
this business, there has to besome narcissism that's coursing to my veins.
So it's always there. Anybody thatgets to the business that we do,
you have to be I have tohave an ego and a little bit of
narcissm to think that I have somethingmore and more entertaining to say out loud.
So I should have a microphone inmy front of my face or if
I can hear it. So Ithink that entire industry has to have some
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of that in it now, whetheror not in spreach or not. That's
that's another question. I was justbecause I was just trying to figure out
your personality. No, no,no, no, no, keep it
going, because I I kind ofwant to know how the method goes.
No, No, I got it. I think I got it. We
either a baboon or a peacock.And I know that's going to sound weird
to people that I'm just saying abunch of random animals. So my book
The Power, Yeah, has sixteendifferent personalities, and we use animal types.
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They're easy to remember. Okay,So you know, I think you
can imagine I say, oh,you're like a peacock, or you might
be a peacock. I think shoffeaseither loud, but a bab boon is
also loud. But the baboon isa little bit more preachy. They're more
opinionated. A peacock's more like JackBlack and a baboon is more like Jennifer
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Lawrence. Oh yeah, and they'rethey're they're a little I can see.
I can see a lot of similaritiesin their personalities. And me, now
that you say that, yeah,so you know, just demands you're either
Jennifer Lauren to Jack Black, So, what you've heard from Joe Kelly so
far? You know, it's nota lot because it's kind of like a
pedantellar here sometimes, what do youwhat do you kind of gain from him?
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Oh? Man, that's hard.I know he's honest, he seems
very straightforward, and he can makea good Philly cheese steak. I don't
know that puts someone into a specificanimal, but that's the information I have
so far. I love cheese steaks, by the way. It's a personality
trait that only gets you so far. And they're not hungry, then no.
But everybody but Joe is somebody thatcan come to any situation. He's
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really nice. He's common, andhe's smart, and people just like him.
Joey, we like him. Hedoesn't say a lot, but what
he does, Like I said,away from this microphone, I can't get
him to shut up. But well, we're on this podcast. I think
I think I ballhogged too much.So I'm trying to try to get more
of the Joe that I know outof him in for this podcast. Guys,
that's a hard one. I'm randomlyI'm guessing a butterfly right now.
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But I'm probably totally wrong. That'sjust a shot in the dark. But
I love the shot of the darkis the catchphrase you very Oh yeah,
I predicted that. Very cool.Very cool. So before becoming an author,
you were the founder of you Topia, just kind of the life coaching
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and person types, what other kindsof stuff kind of goes along with that
in terms of how you well,one says, Okay, I'm gonna become
a coach. I'm going to startdoing this. How do you get your
message out there? Is it socialmedia? Because I see a lot of
people on social media that are hereare the ten things you could do to
become a better person, or here'sthe five lists, or what is the
method behind exactly what it is thatyou do to try to even even have
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a business, to make a livingout of what you're doing. You know,
I am terrible with social media.I'm getting better at it in the
last two months. But really actuallystarted as a writing coach, and so
that's kind of how I got mystart. I was teaching writing and I
realized that, you know, writingisn't about like whatever five paragraph essays and
grammar and things like that. Imean, we kind of can do that
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just by meeting people. It wasmore like trying to help people or help
my students discover their voice. Andin order to discover your voice, you
got to know who you are anddiscover yourself. And that's kind of where
I started the life coaching. There, I started using that professionally. I
had already used that previously. Icoached high school basketball, so that was
another time when I coached high schoolbasketball. I did yeah, or high
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school level basketball. I was aclub team, but I coached. I
tried coaching my nine year old son. To make a long story short,
so I shually a pretty funny story. My nine year old son, he's
more of an artistic kid. He'snot really in a sports but he's starting
to. He's got all the athleticability in the world. My wife's grandfather
used to play for the Bears wayback in the day. Her dad was
an umpire for the White Socks duringthe strike years. The Jewish side of
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my family has no athleticism to giveto him, but he's got all of
that. So what he does wantto play, he could play. So
he goes, I want to trybasketball because that's my favorite sport, and
I was like, all right.I signed him up for a league and
they asked, does anybody want tobe an assistant coach? And he fathered
because they were looking, yeah,I'll be the assistant coach. The first
day coach was cool, but thenthat after the next day, after that
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first lesson, that coach called meand said, hey, I got into
some trouble with my wife. Idon't think I'm coming back. And then
all of a sudden, the leaguecalled me and said, you seem like
a pretty good guy. Would youwant to be the coach? And I
was like, all right. Ihad no idea what I was doing,
no clue. I had parents shoutingat me. I was like, I'll
be only that volunteered for this.I don't know what's happening. But at
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the end of the league I gotthem that would be pretty good. But
that is not an easy thing todo, to get a group of players,
especially kids who are learning the sportingand all kind of like we all
separate kids and then kind of alllike come together. That is a that
is a sport of its own.Yeah, you know, thankfully, with
the personality typing, it was nicebecause I do believe that everyone should be
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treated differently. Everyone should be treatedfairly, but differently based on because every
kid has different motivations. Every personhas different motivations. And that helped quite
a bit. So I was ableto use that when I was coaching.
You know, but worse comes toworse. If I did have any trouble,
I probably would use that. Youknow, you can always use the
Oh you know, I got troublewith the wife. You know, I
can't ye for now on. Iwas like, wait, what do you
mean I'm not coming back. There'sa via the the law I'm not allowed
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of. I'm not allowed to bewithin a couple of hundred feet of my
wife. And I was like,oh, saph Yeah, I don't know
what kind of trouble that is.But uh, your son's the best player
on the team, is he still? Like Okay, I still got access
to him. I can be here, I can be her on your wife.
Okay, good, because I'm gonnawe're gonna need him. We're gonna
need that kid. That is definitelysomething I am gonna need. In terms
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of, uh, everything else isgoing on with you, in terms of
all this, the life, coachingand all that, what would you say
is the best uh, the bestpiece of advice you can give to people
out there that are trying to youknow, this day and age, things
are really hard. I mean people, it's post pandemic. Everybody's kind of
lost. I mean, me andJoe have, like I have like five
jobs going at once, and I'mone of those people that has, like
you know, I got the podcastgoing on, got a radio career I'm
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trying to do, got the voiceovers. I got a wife and kid at
home. What are some three basicthings you can do to make people's lives
a little easier right now? Especiallyyou know a lot of people are very
a lot of hectic lives out there. What can we do to make these
a little easier on ourselves? Youknow, I'd probably I mean everyone always
says take time for yourself, tothink about yourself, but I don't think
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a lot of people do that,and and I think sometimes that's like a
very vague like, yeah, Itake time for yourself, But it's more
like with personality. In the book, I'm always saying, look ignore,
strip down your personality or strip downyour persona, so don't worry about all
the outward stuff. You know,whether you like you like to fish,
or whether you love to sing karaoke, it doesn't really matter. You really
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have to think, like why doI like to do these things? So
what at my core? What isit that I really want? And then
once you figure that out, youknow, because everyone has different needs and
ones. And I always use writersas an example. Writers come from different
personalities and they're all doing the samething, which is writing, but they
have different motivations for it, youknow, like Jane Austen and JK.
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Rowling are different than I don't know, like a sports writer or Tolstoy,
you know. So I would justrecommend that I know this is not three
things, but the number one thingis just find what people really really desire
and then make sure the things they'redoing or the things that you're doing in
your life respond to that. Soeven with children, you know, like
I see it with my I seeit with my sisters. Need to hate
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me saying this she doesn't love kidsthat much, even though she has her
kids. And they might think thatsomeone with kids be like we always think,
oh they're a parent, they're parental, they like, you know,
caring for their kids safety. I'mlike, no, not really, not
everyone is based on safety and family. My sister loves having fun with the
kids and playing with them because deepdown inside she likes to have fun,
She likes to be excited, shelikes new things, and so she taps
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into that side of herself when she'swith her kids, like trying to get
them to explore different things and gohiking. So I think that works.
Gotcha interesting? That's interesting? Yeah? Okay, let's do a little bargamage
with you, shall we. Let'sall let's bargue you some some some fun
stuff because you know personality types,and because you are a life coach.
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If aliens were to somehow as sendupon us, what celebrity athlete, coach,
motivational speaker, or president would yousend the negotiate peace with the our
Martian friend. Okay, so thisis gonna maybe hit close to home for
you. I'd say Phil Jackson.Ah. I'm a big fan of Phil
Jackson. I've read his books.Obviously, I used to coach basketball,
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and you know, the whole personalitything. You know, he was big
on treating people differently, and Ithink it could do perfect one because I
think when aliens were if aliens wereto meet him, I think they would
be like, oh, you know, he's kind of like us. You
know, it's like, oh,okay, like he's different, you know,
just like us. So yeah,definitely, Phil Jackson, Joey,
who are you sending over there?I'm going to send Arnold Schwarzenegger eighty year
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old Arnold Jason stopped every day withthe with the Donkey because he's just gonna
be so like, I mean,they're gonna be we have no idea what
he's saying, but he just seemslike he's a lot of fun and the
muscles could be a little intimidating eventhough he's eighty. But I think,
you know, I don't think there'smuch there to be honest. I would
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to be honest, I would uh. I think I'm sending the rock.
Dwayne Johnson, I'm sending the rock. He goes a the guy is humongous,
So they're gonna be like, allright, this guy already looks like
he can he can hold his ownand be that guy also seems to walk
in every room and people love himlike no matter what he does, that
guy can make. He's a verycharismatic, a very like instant I mean,
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you gotta instantly gain trust you gottainstantly be nice, and I think
those aliens would be. You know, if you start sending like a president,
guys in suits, they're gonna smellthat. You start sending like you
know, Ryan Gosling, They're notgonna They're not taking that guy seriously.
They're not thinking Ken seriously. Youbring the rock. The guy's got personality.
I'll tell them it doesn't matter whatthey're thinking and they'll laugh and the
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automatically just be cool with them.So I'm sending the rock. That's fair.
You guys picked some big dudes.Gosh, I didn't think about that.
I I was like, wow,Poundage, Now, no, Philip
I I for reference. I didcover sports for a little while in Chicago,
and I never covered you know,Phil Jackson, Bulls. I covered
Lakers Phil Jackson, and I didnotice with him because a lot of times
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when he would come back to theUnited Center, people would be asking questions
about, hey, how close isKobe to Jordan? You know they were
I'll always ask those kind of questionsof the comparisons, and when they were
done, I knew I could havea conversation with them by saying, what's
the latest book you're reading and hewould actually stop and he would tell me
what book. Usually it's like,you know, something with a war or
something that's a lot of a lotof stuff that I had a lot of,
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like political signs, because he wassaying he was trying to tap into
some things and take things out ofit. So I found that to be
a very cool kind of thing withhim was that he would kind of give
you a window of so, whathe's dealing with now, and he would
say it. There was moments thattime when it was Shaq and Kobe and
you can kind of tell that hewas trying to figure out how to mend
two sides, about trying to youknow, put a wrench in the entire
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team. So that was when whenhe and I would talk and have very
brief conversations on that, you'd bemore of a window to me kind of
figure out how he was doing that. That was kind of cool. Yeah,
And you don't really associate that withathletes, which is funny because I
mean, everyone has a different personality, and granted athletes tend to share a
lot of athletes come from the samepersonality spectrum, but there are those few
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that really stand out, like PhilJackson kream Ogul jabbar v one where you
know he's famous for like being inthe locker room with the All Star Game
reading a book. Different you know, it doesn't mean they're weird, It
just means they're different personalities than theaverage athletes. Well, they also said,
because I Bill Wennington, who's beenon arguments, who is a member
of the Bulls teams, he toldme, he's told me a few times
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that during those years, Phil Jacksonevery year would give looks and stuff to
each player based on their personality types. And with Jordan it was a lot
of leadership stuff, I think withhim, he said he gave him a
lot of mystery novels. But hesaid the wackiest one was for Tony Kuok
coach. He gave him a comicbookcase. He couldn't spak English very well,
so I just gave him a comicbook. During He's like, maybe
the picture is all inspired or somethingsomething that's just being pragmatic. Yes,
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that is just hoping to get somethingout of something somewhere somehow. He's going
to get into that all right.Now, Another big big piece for you
is that you, sir, area three time Fantasy Football Championship. Yes,
I love throwing that in there justbecause I just think it's funny when
I think I originally put that outthere because I would always put in my
resume because I love when people writeresumes and they just put, you know,
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the most extreme things, and Ijust thought that was great. And
it's also I'm very proud of beinga three time Fantasy Fotball champion. I've
only done it once, and everytime I have no idea how I did
it because I'm not very good atfantasy. Oh, it's just a lot
of luck. It's a lot ofluck. It's more than long. It's
always I mean, I have notthe fifth, sixth, seventh rounds.
I'm usually bored and everybody else likethat. That's for you in that that's
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actually that's true, and my ADHDwill not allow me to have that kind
of participation. So bargament for you, what three all time players are you
taking if you wanted to win anothertitle this upcoming year? Oh? This,
this, oh, this year Iwas in you know, okay,
this is a time three all timenext one, you know, my three
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all time favorite picks that I've madein fantasy, And this is going to
be really random, so you knowI'm telling the truth. Is Jake Plumber,
Arian Foster, Arion Foster, ArionFoster. He was a fifth round
I think I got him in thefifth round. So that's how you win
your drafts. Is the number oneFantasy player of that year in the fifth
round. And h oh, youknow. I have a Dynasty league,
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which is really for all you fantasynerds out there, and I drafted Jordan
Love or I picked him up onfree agency. So I have Jordan Love
because I thought he was gonna bea star. This was whinning. He
was a backup to Aaron Rodgers,and then just the last couple of years,
you know, last year he juststarted. I'm not the same about
Jordan Love. And I picked himup because I had Aaron Rodgers and he
Aaron Rodgers got hurt that first game, and then I picked up Jordan Love.
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And then the first three weeks hewasn't very good, so I dropped
him, and then that happened tobe right as he took off, and
then right then somebody else took him, Like I should have been more patient.
I should have been more patient.Was just because you're from Chicago and
you didn't want to have to rootfor a packer. No, no,
no, I got Aaron Rodgers.Like I said, I mean, I
I have no problems. I putI put hard aside. When it comes
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to my fantasy, you have toI don't really. Yeah, if I'm
only relying on Chicago Bear players,and I am screwed. Yeah, not
exactly. Well justin field, notjustin fields anymore, but justin fields had
a couple of those. He hada couple of weeks where you went nuts
and then there's nothing an injured andoh he's he's playing injured or who knows
what happens Joey, Who's ah?What three are you snagging off the board?
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Well, Frank quarterback, and I'mgonna take Peyton Manning Peyton just stay.
I'm going to take Marvin Harrison withPeyton just because Barbra it is awesome.
And my third one for my runningback, I'm going to pick who's
a good running back. I'm goingto take running back from the man.
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It's so hard to pick a runningback. I need a running back because
you know, in fantasy you needa running back who years through Dan for
quarterback and this is really all timewhen they were like at a height of
doing stuff. Give me Michael Vickduring those Atlanta Falcon years when he was
running everything in that was a crazyyear. I personally won a fantasy football
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on the shoulders of Todd Gurley,and after that he was never the same
ever again. But give me thatseason of him, and then give me
the the first Kansas City Chief titlewith that Tyreek Hill, because that Tyreek
Hill was doing more damage than anywide receiver I've played with. And I've
I think this, if I'm doingthis fantasy football year, I think this
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is year twenty for me and I'veonly won one year. But Todd Gurley,
I I should have got the jerseybecause I know that guy saved so
many He saved so many fantasy leaguesthat at the end of the season,
he had his public to say,we appreciate everybody who chose Todd Curley for
your fantasy team. You know hedid not do this for your personal wealth,
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but congratulations on a job well done. It was like, just to
the fantasy owners, I was like, I should have printed that out.
It was so good. It wasso like it spoke to me. I
was like, I want to buyyour Jersey Man that was that was twelve
hundred bucks. Yeah, they wouldhave collectors. How much? What is
your leagues? Usually? What areyou? What do you bank it?
What is the Tom Wins the dynastWe need to put in more and people
(25:57):
have been clamoring to put in more. We just put in forty dollars.
Oh my god, what what isit? Yeah, it's like maybe what
is that five hundred or yeah,something I've been tell me more about what
what is the Dynasty League? BeauseI may notice something else? A lot
of fun. Yeah, yeah,it's basically you just draft players to keep
forever. Oh, keeper league,okay, yeah, but you don't.
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So keeper leagues you keep them forthe next year, and then there's like
a kind of thing where I thinkyou have to I've never played a keeper
league actually, but I think therules are you you have to like pay
a certain amount to keep one orsomething. But basically Dynasty League only drafting
pretty much rookies because everyone else hastaken so your draft, your draft is
like maybe an hour. Yeah,and it's it's like, yeah, it's
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just like the top college players.So you know, obviously he's a top
running back. So John Robinson wasclearly the number one pick last year.
My brother has been in this league, which I'm thinking about doing this year,
and you may want to jump onit with me. It's, uh,
you every week you draft whoever youwant. You have a certain amount
of like money, you have acertain like weekly whatever it is, and
you can draft whomever you want.But the thing is, you don't know
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who the other person is picking untilit is time for their games. So
you don't know who they picked andwhen they picked. But it's never it's
nobody's ever matched up the same orsometimes you can't. But on a Monday
night, you don't know what widereceiver I drafted who might be playing that
night or not. So it's kindof one of those where you never know
who you're to go against, butyou're going against somebody. I guess you
play the matchups then, right,you're just drafting. Oh well you're not
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even you're not even. Yeah,you're doing your own matchups, so whatever
that would be. So if someone'sinjured the next time, you just don't
have to draft that guy again.But it could be you know, the
same wide receiver against each other ortwo guys. Yeah, you just kind
of doesn't really match up, butanybody can play. As many people could
be in it. I think hesays it's a lot of fun that way.
So I'm thinking about doing that onefor next year. Just draft the
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quarterback that plays the Panthers every week. And that, my friends, is
coming from a life coach. Thatis a lifeboard. That's the number one
rule. That's the number one rulein life. Draft the quarterback against the
see now, that is another levelof what you should be doing life coach
wise, is fantasy help. There'syour second book right there. Honestly,
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fantasy help for me like that.If you do like a cheat thing or
I would I would download your atmosphere. If you have like a fantasy like
a cheap jeet, I would takeit. I would love to write articles
about fantasy football. Move over MatthewBerry. I love Matthew Berry. Yeah
he started you got to start onmarried with children? Actually really yeah,
that's he has this whole story notto get too far in the weeks.
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He has his whole story about ChristineApplegate, and he's relating it to like
why you should always like, don'tdon't get infatuated with the new people and
stick with the players you got there? You know? Interesting? Interesting?
All right? Well, speaking ofnineties sitcoms, I was more eighties and
nineties. You are a big ninetiesguy, and so are we. I
think every everybody in our our agegroup is a nineties kind of a person.
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Most iconic sitcom character from the ninetiesis who? Who is the most
iconic? If I were to say, give me the Jordan of the nineties
sitcoms, who's that person? Wow? That's that's tough, because you know,
I always when I think ninety sitcomps, I definitely think the Friends cast.
But I can't really pick me onefrom the Friends cast. Get you
the one? Yeah, you can'tdo. So I'm gonna say George Costanza
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O because I feel like he letit be okay, strangely reason for us
to watch and enjoy a selfish,narcissistic person who gets triggered about everything.
Yes, And I feel like that'sI'm not I'm not. I don't like
to sit on other generations, butlike I don't. I'm sure it's always
existed, but probably we see itmore now through social media that we it's
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more pervasive. You're right, You'reright, and I've find you know what,
I've also found with a lot ofpeople because that that character is based
off Larry David. And I knowa lot of people that have told me,
oh, a lot of people tellme I'm Larry David, and I
immediately go, oh, you're anasshole, because Larry David is an asshole,
and like, I don't want anybodyto ever say you remind me a
lot like Larry David. That isnot a compliment. I've had a few
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people go A lot of people willcall me the curb your enthusiasm out of
the group. I'm like, soyou hear the cat in the restaurant not
tipping and completely walking around getting yourface in other people's businesses and completely being
the digcat. I don't want tobe any part with you. I want
no friends in that. I usedto play this guy and this other guy
said, hey, you know,he kind of looks like Dennis Johnson.
And then the other guy was like, Dennis Johnson is one of the five
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ugliest players you've ever played in theNBA. It's like, yeah, that's
not a good comparison. That's ofcomparison. You know, you're saying I
play defense like him. That's greatyeah, I get Chris Elliot a lot,
So that's not the best comparison I'veever heard either, but I'll tag
it. He does make me.Look about they talking about your sense of
humor. Oh, I don't knowwhat my sense of you would be,
Jolley, Oh my funny like aclown, Like a clown. If I
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hearing to amuse you, I wouldsay from my nineties. It is hard
for me because I would say Seinfeldis pretty close to that nineties. But
I'll throw one even completely different athim. Steve Rkle most iconic of all
time. You instantly see that guy, you know exactly what TV show that
is, you know exactly what thatlook is. You can hear, you
can hear that character without even withouteven listening to him. I mean you
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look at a picture, you knowexactly what that is, where it is,
and you can almost hear the TGIhave theme song coming in. That's
a great choice. That's she's prettyiconic. I gotta admit that's yeah,
because I was like, oh,the friends are there Seinfeld Frazier. I
was like, if I close myeyes, ercle for me his nineties,
that's nineties. Joey. I wentto school. Oh sorry what what?
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Oh no, I was gonna sayI went to school with Steve le Or.
Yeah, I went to UCLA andhe was there at the same time.
I never went to any class withhim, but a friend of mine
was in a class with him,and let's just say he uh thought very
highly of himself, as he should. He's the most iconic nineties Who else
did you go to school? Didyou go to school with anybody else?
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I feel like UCLA you would dowith something people Michelle Kwan. Michelle Kwan
was there obviously, all the athletes, you know what, which athletes were
there when you were there. Ihad a class with Cedric Boseman, which
was yeah, yeah, that wasthe Steve Lavin here. So like there
was a year where great team.But of course Steve I haven't didn't take
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us anywhere like Jerome Oiso, DanGas Reach Reach, I remember that.
I remember that very cool. Yeah, my favorite player was j R.
Henderson though, of course, butyou know that's awesome, That is awesome,
Joey. Who is your nineties mosticonic character sitcom of all time?
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Wren from Renden Sympia. Oh mygod, yeah wow that one. Yeah,
yeah, this show that was theclolest thing I've ever seen. You
should have went, Davis. No, I'm that's good. I'm still taking
simpio, gotcha. I don't know, Reck, I don't know. I
mean the most iconic that could beyour favorite who's iconic? Come on,
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that's not that's not iconic, rightRed from Red I beg to disagree,
sir. That guy is you showled to anybody on the night who's walking
in the nineties and they're going tothat guy is bigger than Jolie White,
maybe not bigger than Julia wet buthe's give me, I cott it,
give me, give me an Icottic on, I'll see. I'll see
Carl Winso from Family Matters, Imean, and he was in some people
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confuse Carl winszow and I'll go Phil. Sometimes yeah, they they've even had
like an episode where he even says, hey, give me five bucks.
I told you looks just like UnclePhil. And then Uncle Phil comes out
he goes, he looks not thelike me. Are we getting voted on
this because I like this because ifyou guys pick those two, you guys
are splitting the votes. I wasgonna tell you if you did if we
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did, if we were to goahead and grade these arguments, the guests
always win, So you I wouldtake. I would take George Cassands over
over Steve Verkle. Yeah, okayo guy, whatever I was in the
pool. Just because of the pool, you were being compared to Larry David.
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That's why you wouldn't take George Costanzaover. Okay. So what so
personality of the time? Am Ia Larry David? Am I a jerk?
I get it that way? No, I I you know, I
sense that you. I don't sensethat you're a jerk, but I sense
that you think you have insecurities thatmight think you're like, am I a
jerk? And I think you might, which is okay. I was gonna
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say, but if I if theinsecurity is there, that means I'm I'm
mendible. I I can be Ican be fixed. I feel like if
you're a curby enthusiasm me just sittingin that pocketing on I'm a jerk,
I'm gonna lean into this. Ido think I do think he enjoys a
little more than he lets on though, Like he's like he's in one of
you, but he's like that's notthe worst thing. Well, listen,
you can't be the host of ashow called Arguments and not have a stickler
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jerk side to you. You haveto have a little more of a boat
in there. If not that,it was just this is just a friendly
discussion of arguments. That's all.That's all let's go from. It's just
having a batbone there. There yougo, Eric, thanks so much for
coming on. Congratulations and again thebook it is called Eric Gez The Power
of Personality. It's available today.Check it out on Amazon, Barnes,
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and Noble wherever you get your books. Eric, we really appreciate you taking
the time. Oh, thanks forso much for having you. It was
really fun, very cool. ForJoe Kelly. My name is Dan Levy.
You've been listening to Bargaments and onceagain, please go ahead and share
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Arguments is recorded in front of alive studio audience. What's up, everybody,
Welcome in, Barginers everywhere, Welcometo another episode of Argument. It's
alongside my co host East Coast Elitistand my karaoke host himself, Go Kelly,
Thank you Dan. I resent thatcomment, but I respect it.
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Well. If you didn't make sucha good Philly cheeseteak, you'd have been
out of this podcast a long timeago. That's fair. Today is an
especially exciting episode because it's released dayfor our guest author, Ladies and gentlemen,
Eric g What up? Eric?What's up? How's it going?
Good? Good? I like thatway for your friend. You know,
resent it, but you know respectit. I think I got to use
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that resented and respected. That mightbe uh, I might have to go
in the back of the T shirtswere releasing shortly. Well, Hey,
congrats to you The Power of Personality, your new book. It is available
today. Check it out Amazon,Barnes, and Noble wherever else you get
your books. Eric again, welcometo the podcast. Congrats on this.
Oh, thanks for having me andyeah, I'm excited to be here.
All right, So tell me whatit's like because you are. You're basically
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a life coach, and you're aguy who gives positive, positive vibes out
there for everybody. Tell me whatit's like. How does one be like,
you know what, forgot being adoctor, forget being a neurosurgeon or
a lawyer. I'm going to tellother people what they could do for their
life, right. You know.It's so I always tell the story like
this New Year's I was chucking oysterswith my cousin's kid, or I was
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teaching him how to chuck oysters,and you know, he's he just finished
pharmacy school. And I was like, oh, so, like what do
you what do you want to do? And he's like, you know,
I don't know, but as longas they don't have to stay in the
same place for the whole day.I was like, oh, you picked
the wrong job, you know.And I was like, oh, maybe
you want to like try like pharmaceuticalsales. That gets you out, you
know, you need to be ableto travel. And he was just like,
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well, you know, but Idid pharmacy school. I don't want
to waste the you know, allthe knowledge that I gained. And I'm
just like, yeah, but youonly got one life. You don't want
to waste that. Dude, Iwas gonna say, who cares? Yeah,
yeah exactly, it's like you andhe's like, no, that's a
good point. So I spend mostof my days doing that pretty much.
It's just like figuring out what peoplewant and it's kind of like pushing them
towards that. So it's it's nobigga, what were you on? What
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were you doing before then? Didsomebody tell you how to do this kind
of stuff for like, hey,you should do that for a living?
Yeah? Well I think I stilllive that way now. I'm like,
am I doing the right thing?I don't know, you know, Like,
and I had that really early on, and I kind of just studied
like personality theory, personality typing,the idea that people are very different.
And I went through all that theoryand then I came out the other end
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through different experiences, and I hadenough information to write a book. Yeah.
So I did create my own educationcompany and I had that for ten
years. So that's kind of whereI did a lot of my research research.
But I'm not like plugging people upinto cables or are you Yeah?
That was quite that was quite animage. You paid him for somebody who
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doesn't do such things very good nodeson their forehead and feed them like sloth
from the Goonies. There you go, There you go. Yeah, now
that's the visual. There we go, Eric, I may want to internally
that sounds kind of fun. Comeon, do Come on, dude,
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So, as a life coach,tell me about a couple of good basic
personalities because in like Joe and Iwork in media, so I think we
see every personality type you can possiblyfrom the narcissis to a lot of alphas
walking around a lot of people whoare following the alphas. A lot of
people are kind of where you are, and especially in today's day and age,
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Joe, like I kind of wantto do something different for a living.
How does one go? I mean, is there a way to change
a personality type? Is there away to be one of those guys that's
I'm not an alpha and now here'sa way to be coming? Or is
it just are you that personality andthat's that is what it is? You
know, that's like one of themost common questions, Like yeah, because
you know, everybody likes the ideaof change, and I'm always just like
you you can't change, but wegrow, you know, so we grow
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into better versions of ourselves, orwe can grow into worse versions of ourselves.
Because if you you know, likenot everyone like, if you grow
up and you're like a little irresponsible, Like, it doesn't mean that you're
destined to be irresponsible, but itprobably means that you you're destined to be
more spontaneous and more flexible and theability to adapt, and that's really important,
you know, versus like, soit probably means you're not going to
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be a pharmacist, but you mightbe pretty successful as a businessman, you
know, gotcha. Yeah. Ialways say dogs don't grow into cats,
they grow or puppies don't grow intocats, they grow into dogs, right,
so you know that's true. Butsome small like I said, well,
how does it go with small dogs, usually think that uh, small
dogs small smaller dogs are usually thatthey are bigger dogs. Oh yeah,
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we can, we can definitely,I mean, we grow when we grow
into better versions of ourselves, wedefinitely get stronger. Can you hear me
real quick? Yeah? I canhear you. Thank you? What about
now? Can you hear me now? Yeah? I can hear you?
One two, one too? Allright, somebody, uh, somebody just
had to switch up functionhot, Okay, this will be this part will be
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marked. So when you immediately howlong does it take you to be in
a room, like say you jumpedin with Joe and I. How long
does it take you to figure outexactly what personality types we are? You
know, it just depends on theperson. You know, some personality types
are a lot more flashier, They'rea lot easier to see. Also,
sometimes people when people are not asconfident in themselves, then they're a little
bit harder to read, right becausethey're not really acting like themselves. They
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do a lot of different things thatare kind of not necessarily consistent. So
it's more consistent confident that someone is, the more consistent they are knowing what
you do. Do people sometimes actdifferently around you because they know what you
do and they don't want to beread. So you know, you're trying
not to be read so quickly,or we're trying to hide it to your
personality in a certain way. Youknow. I try not to mention what
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I do, and I think ingeneral people are really excited about it.
So funny enough, like when Imention it, like generally speaking, like,
people just want to what am Ilike? Let me, let me
answer some questions, ask me somequestions. You know. That's why I
wrote the book. Was I originallywas writing screenplays and pilots here in LA
and in my writer's group, wewould start, we'd go to bars and
we just start talking about stuff,and this topic invariably came up, and
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someone was just like, you know, should write a book on this.
And I was like, oh,okay, maybe I will. And that's
what happened, and you actually dida lot of people say you should write
a book on these things, nobodyactually doesn't. Yeah, you know,
I took a while, I didn'tdo it. I was like, no,
I'm going to write my pilot aboutmy sex addicted rabbit. And I
was doing that story. It's agreat pilot, by the way, people
(06:46):
should buy. A friend of mineput the ideas and she perried into the
TV show she was writing for.Ah, So like, if it's you
know that funny enough to like andentertaining enough to be put into a show,
then episode, then I should writea book on the thing that I've
always the thing I've always gotten aboutmy personality. I've always tell people that
when I've described myself as a personality, I'm always a puppy in a room
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full of adults with treats. Iam just happy to be places. But
I've always had it in my lifewhere you either really like me or you
really hate me. And it's allbecause I have no idea how to like
be anything else. So either peopleare really that I could come off too
strong, or I can come offlike, oh, that's the kind of
guy I want to hang out with. So I've always it's never been in
the middle. I don't have agreat area Like no one ever says Dan
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Levy's an okay guy. It's usuallyI love that guy, or I can
see very quickly I've already made anemphasis because I imagine you're pretty honest with
your thoughts. Sometimes yes, sometimesno, I've just got of I'm just
a little more. I don't know, Joe, Am I honest with my
thoughts? People? All right?Maybe I am. Maybe that was a
fast Yes, yeah, I've hadthat ready for a while, even before
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we knew coming on today, thatwas the wholestter for a while. You
can always say I resent that,but I respect it. Hashtag hashtag but
there's I've always had that issue.I've never I've always like, I've never
tried to come off as a personthat's not nice. I mean I even
trying to, even when I'm notbeing honest, or if I'm just in
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a room full of people and thisway I am with you. It is
just I've always been an extrovert,somebody who's not afraid to talk, not
afraid to say hello to people,and sometimes it comes off well, sometimes
it doesn't. I feel like sometimespeople at your worst, do you feel
people think you're narcissistic or do youthink people think you're preachy at your worst?
(08:37):
It's a good question. Well,I think in order to be in
this business, there has to besome narcissism that's coursing to my veins.
So it's always there. Anybody thatgets to the business that we do,
you have to be I have tohave an ego and a little bit of
narcissm to think that I have somethingmore and more entertaining to say out loud.
So I should have a microphone inmy front of my face or if
I can hear it. So Ithink that entire industry has to have some
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of that in it now, whetheror not in spreach or not. That's
that's another question. I was justbecause I was just trying to figure out
your personality. No, no,no, no, no, keep it
going, because I I kind ofwant to know how the method goes.
No, No, I got it. I think I got it. We
either a baboon or a peacock.And I know that's going to sound weird
to people that I'm just saying abunch of random animals. So my book
The Power, Yeah, has sixteendifferent personalities, and we use animal types.
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They're easy to remember. Okay,So you know, I think you
can imagine I say, oh,you're like a peacock, or you might
be a peacock. I think shoffeaseither loud, but a bab boon is
also loud. But the baboon isa little bit more preachy. They're more
opinionated. A peacock's more like JackBlack and a baboon is more like Jennifer
(09:48):
Lawrence. Oh yeah, and they'rethey're they're a little I can see.
I can see a lot of similaritiesin their personalities. And me, now
that you say that, yeah,so you know, just demands you're either
Jennifer Lauren to Jack Black, So, what you've heard from Joe Kelly so
far? You know, it's nota lot because it's kind of like a
pedantellar here sometimes, what do youwhat do you kind of gain from him?
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Oh? Man, that's hard.I know he's honest, he seems
very straightforward, and he can makea good Philly cheese steak. I don't
know that puts someone into a specificanimal, but that's the information I have
so far. I love cheese steaks, by the way. It's a personality
trait that only gets you so far. And they're not hungry, then no.
But everybody but Joe is somebody thatcan come to any situation. He's
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really nice. He's common, andhe's smart, and people just like him.
Joey, we like him. Hedoesn't say a lot, but what
he does, Like I said,away from this microphone, I can't get
him to shut up. But well, we're on this podcast. I think
I think I ballhogged too much.So I'm trying to try to get more
of the Joe that I know outof him in for this podcast. Guys,
that's a hard one. I'm randomlyI'm guessing a butterfly right now.
(10:52):
But I'm probably totally wrong. That'sjust a shot in the dark. But
I love the shot of the darkis the catchphrase you very Oh yeah,
I predicted that. Very cool.Very cool. So before becoming an author,
you were the founder of you Topia, just kind of the life coaching
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and person types, what other kindsof stuff kind of goes along with that
in terms of how you well,one says, Okay, I'm gonna become
a coach. I'm going to startdoing this. How do you get your
message out there? Is it socialmedia? Because I see a lot of
people on social media that are hereare the ten things you could do to
become a better person, or here'sthe five lists, or what is the
method behind exactly what it is thatyou do to try to even even have
(11:35):
a business, to make a livingout of what you're doing. You know,
I am terrible with social media.I'm getting better at it in the
last two months. But really actuallystarted as a writing coach, and so
that's kind of how I got mystart. I was teaching writing and I
realized that, you know, writingisn't about like whatever five paragraph essays and
grammar and things like that. Imean, we kind of can do that
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just by meeting people. It wasmore like trying to help people or help
my students discover their voice. Andin order to discover your voice, you
got to know who you are anddiscover yourself. And that's kind of where
I started the life coaching. There, I started using that professionally. I
had already used that previously. Icoached high school basketball, so that was
another time when I coached high schoolbasketball. I did yeah, or high
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school level basketball. I was aclub team, but I coached. I
tried coaching my nine year old son. To make a long story short,
so I shually a pretty funny story. My nine year old son, he's
more of an artistic kid. He'snot really in a sports but he's starting
to. He's got all the athleticability in the world. My wife's grandfather
used to play for the Bears wayback in the day. Her dad was
an umpire for the White Socks duringthe strike years. The Jewish side of
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my family has no athleticism to giveto him, but he's got all of
that. So what he does wantto play, he could play. So
he goes, I want to trybasketball because that's my favorite sport, and
I was like, all right.I signed him up for a league and
they asked, does anybody want tobe an assistant coach? And he fathered
because they were looking, yeah,I'll be the assistant coach. The first
day coach was cool, but thenthat after the next day, after that
(13:03):
first lesson, that coach called meand said, hey, I got into
some trouble with my wife. Idon't think I'm coming back. And then
all of a sudden, the leaguecalled me and said, you seem like
a pretty good guy. Would youwant to be the coach? And I
was like, all right. Ihad no idea what I was doing,
no clue. I had parents shoutingat me. I was like, I'll
be only that volunteered for this.I don't know what's happening. But at
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the end of the league I gotthem that would be pretty good. But
that is not an easy thing todo, to get a group of players,
especially kids who are learning the sportingand all kind of like we all
separate kids and then kind of alllike come together. That is a that
is a sport of its own.Yeah, you know, thankfully, with
the personality typing, it was nicebecause I do believe that everyone should be
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treated differently. Everyone should be treatedfairly, but differently based on because every
kid has different motivations. Every personhas different motivations. And that helped quite
a bit. So I was ableto use that when I was coaching.
You know, but worse comes toworse. If I did have any trouble,
I probably would use that. Youknow, you can always use the
Oh you know, I got troublewith the wife. You know, I
can't ye for now on. Iwas like, wait, what do you
mean I'm not coming back. There'sa via the the law I'm not allowed
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of. I'm not allowed to bewithin a couple of hundred feet of my
wife. And I was like,oh, saph Yeah, I don't know
what kind of trouble that is.But uh, your son's the best player
on the team, is he still? Like Okay, I still got access
to him. I can be here, I can be her on your wife.
Okay, good, because I'm gonnawe're gonna need him. We're gonna
need that kid. That is definitelysomething I am gonna need. In terms
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of, uh, everything else isgoing on with you, in terms of
all this, the life, coachingand all that, what would you say
is the best uh, the bestpiece of advice you can give to people
out there that are trying to youknow, this day and age, things
are really hard. I mean people, it's post pandemic. Everybody's kind of
lost. I mean, me andJoe have, like I have like five
jobs going at once, and I'mone of those people that has, like
you know, I got the podcastgoing on, got a radio career I'm
(14:56):
trying to do, got the voiceovers. I got a wife and kid at
home. What are some three basicthings you can do to make people's lives
a little easier right now? Especiallyyou know a lot of people are very
a lot of hectic lives out there. What can we do to make these
a little easier on ourselves? Youknow, I'd probably I mean everyone always
says take time for yourself, tothink about yourself, but I don't think
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a lot of people do that,and and I think sometimes that's like a
very vague like, yeah, Itake time for yourself, But it's more
like with personality. In the book, I'm always saying, look ignore,
strip down your personality or strip downyour persona, so don't worry about all
the outward stuff. You know,whether you like you like to fish,
or whether you love to sing karaoke, it doesn't really matter. You really
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have to think, like why doI like to do these things? So
what at my core? What isit that I really want? And then
once you figure that out, youknow, because everyone has different needs and
ones. And I always use writersas an example. Writers come from different
personalities and they're all doing the samething, which is writing, but they
have different motivations for it, youknow, like Jane Austen and JK.
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Rowling are different than I don't know, like a sports writer or Tolstoy,
you know. So I would justrecommend that I know this is not three
things, but the number one thingis just find what people really really desire
and then make sure the things they'redoing or the things that you're doing in
your life respond to that. Soeven with children, you know, like
I see it with my I seeit with my sisters. Need to hate
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me saying this she doesn't love kidsthat much, even though she has her
kids. And they might think thatsomeone with kids be like we always think,
oh they're a parent, they're parental, they like, you know,
caring for their kids safety. I'mlike, no, not really, not
everyone is based on safety and family. My sister loves having fun with the
kids and playing with them because deepdown inside she likes to have fun,
She likes to be excited, shelikes new things, and so she taps
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into that side of herself when she'swith her kids, like trying to get
them to explore different things and gohiking. So I think that works.
Gotcha interesting? That's interesting? Yeah? Okay, let's do a little bargamage
with you, shall we. Let'sall let's bargue you some some some fun
stuff because you know personality types,and because you are a life coach.
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If aliens were to somehow as sendupon us, what celebrity athlete, coach,
motivational speaker, or president would yousend the negotiate peace with the our
Martian friend. Okay, so thisis gonna maybe hit close to home for
you. I'd say Phil Jackson.Ah. I'm a big fan of Phil
Jackson. I've read his books.Obviously, I used to coach basketball,
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and you know, the whole personalitything. You know, he was big
on treating people differently, and Ithink it could do perfect one because I
think when aliens were if aliens wereto meet him, I think they would
be like, oh, you know, he's kind of like us. You
know, it's like, oh,okay, like he's different, you know,
just like us. So yeah,definitely, Phil Jackson, Joey,
who are you sending over there?I'm going to send Arnold Schwarzenegger eighty year
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old Arnold Jason stopped every day withthe with the Donkey because he's just gonna
be so like, I mean,they're gonna be we have no idea what
he's saying, but he just seemslike he's a lot of fun and the
muscles could be a little intimidating eventhough he's eighty. But I think,
you know, I don't think there'smuch there to be honest. I would
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to be honest, I would uh. I think I'm sending the rock.
Dwayne Johnson, I'm sending the rock. He goes a the guy is humongous,
So they're gonna be like, allright, this guy already looks like
he can he can hold his ownand be that guy also seems to walk
in every room and people love himlike no matter what he does, that
guy can make. He's a verycharismatic, a very like instant I mean,
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you gotta instantly gain trust you gottainstantly be nice, and I think
those aliens would be. You know, if you start sending like a president,
guys in suits, they're gonna smellthat. You start sending like you
know, Ryan Gosling, They're notgonna They're not taking that guy seriously.
They're not thinking Ken seriously. Youbring the rock. The guy's got personality.
I'll tell them it doesn't matter whatthey're thinking and they'll laugh and the
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automatically just be cool with them.So I'm sending the rock. That's fair.
You guys picked some big dudes.Gosh, I didn't think about that.
I I was like, wow,Poundage, Now, no, Philip
I I for reference. I didcover sports for a little while in Chicago,
and I never covered you know,Phil Jackson, Bulls. I covered
Lakers Phil Jackson, and I didnotice with him because a lot of times
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when he would come back to theUnited Center, people would be asking questions
about, hey, how close isKobe to Jordan? You know they were
I'll always ask those kind of questionsof the comparisons, and when they were
done, I knew I could havea conversation with them by saying, what's
the latest book you're reading and hewould actually stop and he would tell me
what book. Usually it's like,you know, something with a war or
something that's a lot of a lotof stuff that I had a lot of,
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like political signs, because he wassaying he was trying to tap into
some things and take things out ofit. So I found that to be
a very cool kind of thing withhim was that he would kind of give
you a window of so, whathe's dealing with now, and he would
say it. There was moments thattime when it was Shaq and Kobe and
you can kind of tell that hewas trying to figure out how to mend
two sides, about trying to youknow, put a wrench in the entire
(20:10):
team. So that was when whenhe and I would talk and have very
brief conversations on that, you'd bemore of a window to me kind of
figure out how he was doing that. That was kind of cool. Yeah,
And you don't really associate that withathletes, which is funny because I
mean, everyone has a different personality, and granted athletes tend to share a
lot of athletes come from the samepersonality spectrum, but there are those few
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that really stand out, like PhilJackson kream Ogul jabbar v one where you
know he's famous for like being inthe locker room with the All Star Game
reading a book. Different you know, it doesn't mean they're weird, It
just means they're different personalities than theaverage athletes. Well, they also said,
because I Bill Wennington, who's beenon arguments, who is a member
of the Bulls teams, he toldme, he's told me a few times
(20:55):
that during those years, Phil Jacksonevery year would give looks and stuff to
each player based on their personality types. And with Jordan it was a lot
of leadership stuff, I think withhim, he said he gave him a
lot of mystery novels. But hesaid the wackiest one was for Tony Kuok
coach. He gave him a comicbookcase. He couldn't spak English very well,
so I just gave him a comicbook. During He's like, maybe
the picture is all inspired or somethingsomething that's just being pragmatic. Yes,
(21:21):
that is just hoping to get somethingout of something somewhere somehow. He's going
to get into that all right.Now, Another big big piece for you
is that you, sir, area three time Fantasy Football Championship. Yes,
I love throwing that in there justbecause I just think it's funny when
I think I originally put that outthere because I would always put in my
resume because I love when people writeresumes and they just put, you know,
(21:42):
the most extreme things, and Ijust thought that was great. And
it's also I'm very proud of beinga three time Fantasy Fotball champion. I've
only done it once, and everytime I have no idea how I did
it because I'm not very good atfantasy. Oh, it's just a lot
of luck. It's a lot ofluck. It's more than long. It's
always I mean, I have notthe fifth, sixth, seventh rounds.
I'm usually bored and everybody else likethat. That's for you in that that's
(22:04):
actually that's true, and my ADHDwill not allow me to have that kind
of participation. So bargament for you, what three all time players are you
taking if you wanted to win anothertitle this upcoming year? Oh? This,
this, oh, this year Iwas in you know, okay,
this is a time three all timenext one, you know, my three
(22:26):
all time favorite picks that I've madein fantasy, And this is going to
be really random, so you knowI'm telling the truth. Is Jake Plumber,
Arian Foster, Arion Foster, ArionFoster. He was a fifth round
I think I got him in thefifth round. So that's how you win
your drafts. Is the number oneFantasy player of that year in the fifth
round. And h oh, youknow. I have a Dynasty league,
(22:48):
which is really for all you fantasynerds out there, and I drafted Jordan
Love or I picked him up onfree agency. So I have Jordan Love
because I thought he was gonna bea star. This was whinning. He
was a backup to Aaron Rodgers,and then just the last couple of years,
you know, last year he juststarted. I'm not the same about
Jordan Love. And I picked himup because I had Aaron Rodgers and he
Aaron Rodgers got hurt that first game, and then I picked up Jordan Love.
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And then the first three weeks hewasn't very good, so I dropped
him, and then that happened tobe right as he took off, and
then right then somebody else took him, Like I should have been more patient.
I should have been more patient.Was just because you're from Chicago and
you didn't want to have to rootfor a packer. No, no,
no, I got Aaron Rodgers.Like I said, I mean, I
I have no problems. I putI put hard aside. When it comes
(23:33):
to my fantasy, you have toI don't really. Yeah, if I'm
only relying on Chicago Bear players,and I am screwed. Yeah, not
exactly. Well justin field, notjustin fields anymore, but justin fields had
a couple of those. He hada couple of weeks where you went nuts
and then there's nothing an injured andoh he's he's playing injured or who knows
what happens Joey, Who's ah?What three are you snagging off the board?
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Well, Frank quarterback, and I'mgonna take Peyton Manning Peyton just stay.
I'm going to take Marvin Harrison withPeyton just because Barbra it is awesome.
And my third one for my runningback, I'm going to pick who's
a good running back. I'm goingto take running back from the man.
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It's so hard to pick a runningback. I need a running back because
you know, in fantasy you needa running back who years through Dan for
quarterback and this is really all timewhen they were like at a height of
doing stuff. Give me Michael Vickduring those Atlanta Falcon years when he was
running everything in that was a crazyyear. I personally won a fantasy football
(24:48):
on the shoulders of Todd Gurley,and after that he was never the same
ever again. But give me thatseason of him, and then give me
the the first Kansas City Chief titlewith that Tyreek Hill, because that Tyreek
Hill was doing more damage than anywide receiver I've played with. And I've
I think this, if I'm doingthis fantasy football year, I think this
(25:11):
is year twenty for me and I'veonly won one year. But Todd Gurley,
I I should have got the jerseybecause I know that guy saved so
many He saved so many fantasy leaguesthat at the end of the season,
he had his public to say,we appreciate everybody who chose Todd Curley for
your fantasy team. You know hedid not do this for your personal wealth,
(25:33):
but congratulations on a job well done. It was like, just to
the fantasy owners, I was like, I should have printed that out.
It was so good. It wasso like it spoke to me. I
was like, I want to buyyour Jersey Man that was that was twelve
hundred bucks. Yeah, they wouldhave collectors. How much? What is
your leagues? Usually? What areyou? What do you bank it?
What is the Tom Wins the dynastWe need to put in more and people
(25:57):
have been clamoring to put in more. We just put in forty dollars.
Oh my god, what what isit? Yeah, it's like maybe what
is that five hundred or yeah,something I've been tell me more about what
what is the Dynasty League? BeauseI may notice something else? A lot
of fun. Yeah, yeah,it's basically you just draft players to keep
forever. Oh, keeper league,okay, yeah, but you don't.
(26:18):
So keeper leagues you keep them forthe next year, and then there's like
a kind of thing where I thinkyou have to I've never played a keeper
league actually, but I think therules are you you have to like pay
a certain amount to keep one orsomething. But basically Dynasty League only drafting
pretty much rookies because everyone else hastaken so your draft, your draft is
like maybe an hour. Yeah,and it's it's like, yeah, it's
(26:38):
just like the top college players.So you know, obviously he's a top
running back. So John Robinson wasclearly the number one pick last year.
My brother has been in this league, which I'm thinking about doing this year,
and you may want to jump onit with me. It's, uh,
you every week you draft whoever youwant. You have a certain amount
of like money, you have acertain like weekly whatever it is, and
you can draft whomever you want.But the thing is, you don't know
(26:59):
who the other person is picking untilit is time for their games. So
you don't know who they picked andwhen they picked. But it's never it's
nobody's ever matched up the same orsometimes you can't. But on a Monday
night, you don't know what widereceiver I drafted who might be playing that
night or not. So it's kindof one of those where you never know
who you're to go against, butyou're going against somebody. I guess you
play the matchups then, right,you're just drafting. Oh well you're not
(27:22):
even you're not even. Yeah,you're doing your own matchups, so whatever
that would be. So if someone'sinjured the next time, you just don't
have to draft that guy again.But it could be you know, the
same wide receiver against each other ortwo guys. Yeah, you just kind
of doesn't really match up, butanybody can play. As many people could
be in it. I think hesays it's a lot of fun that way.
So I'm thinking about doing that onefor next year. Just draft the
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quarterback that plays the Panthers every week. And that, my friends, is
coming from a life coach. Thatis a lifeboard. That's the number one
rule. That's the number one rulein life. Draft the quarterback against the
see now, that is another levelof what you should be doing life coach
wise, is fantasy help. There'syour second book right there. Honestly,
(28:03):
fantasy help for me like that.If you do like a cheat thing or
I would I would download your atmosphere. If you have like a fantasy like
a cheap jeet, I would takeit. I would love to write articles
about fantasy football. Move over MatthewBerry. I love Matthew Berry. Yeah
he started you got to start onmarried with children? Actually really yeah,
that's he has this whole story notto get too far in the weeks.
(28:26):
He has his whole story about ChristineApplegate, and he's relating it to like
why you should always like, don'tdon't get infatuated with the new people and
stick with the players you got there? You know? Interesting? Interesting?
All right? Well, speaking ofnineties sitcoms, I was more eighties and
nineties. You are a big ninetiesguy, and so are we. I
think every everybody in our our agegroup is a nineties kind of a person.
(28:48):
Most iconic sitcom character from the ninetiesis who? Who is the most
iconic? If I were to say, give me the Jordan of the nineties
sitcoms, who's that person? Wow? That's that's tough, because you know,
I always when I think ninety sitcomps, I definitely think the Friends cast.
But I can't really pick me onefrom the Friends cast. Get you
the one? Yeah, you can'tdo. So I'm gonna say George Costanza
(29:10):
O because I feel like he letit be okay, strangely reason for us
to watch and enjoy a selfish,narcissistic person who gets triggered about everything.
Yes, And I feel like that'sI'm not I'm not. I don't like
to sit on other generations, butlike I don't. I'm sure it's always
existed, but probably we see itmore now through social media that we it's
(29:33):
more pervasive. You're right, You'reright, and I've find you know what,
I've also found with a lot ofpeople because that that character is based
off Larry David. And I knowa lot of people that have told me,
oh, a lot of people tellme I'm Larry David, and I
immediately go, oh, you're anasshole, because Larry David is an asshole,
and like, I don't want anybodyto ever say you remind me a
lot like Larry David. That isnot a compliment. I've had a few
(29:55):
people go A lot of people willcall me the curb your enthusiasm out of
the group. I'm like, soyou hear the cat in the restaurant not
tipping and completely walking around getting yourface in other people's businesses and completely being
the digcat. I don't want tobe any part with you. I want
no friends in that. I usedto play this guy and this other guy
said, hey, you know,he kind of looks like Dennis Johnson.
And then the other guy was like, Dennis Johnson is one of the five
(30:17):
ugliest players you've ever played in theNBA. It's like, yeah, that's
not a good comparison. That's ofcomparison. You know, you're saying I
play defense like him. That's greatyeah, I get Chris Elliot a lot,
So that's not the best comparison I'veever heard either, but I'll tag
it. He does make me.Look about they talking about your sense of
humor. Oh, I don't knowwhat my sense of you would be,
Jolley, Oh my funny like aclown, Like a clown. If I
(30:40):
hearing to amuse you, I wouldsay from my nineties. It is hard
for me because I would say Seinfeldis pretty close to that nineties. But
I'll throw one even completely different athim. Steve Rkle most iconic of all
time. You instantly see that guy, you know exactly what TV show that
is, you know exactly what thatlook is. You can hear, you
can hear that character without even withouteven listening to him. I mean you
(31:04):
look at a picture, you knowexactly what that is, where it is,
and you can almost hear the TGIhave theme song coming in. That's
a great choice. That's she's prettyiconic. I gotta admit that's yeah,
because I was like, oh,the friends are there Seinfeld Frazier. I
was like, if I close myeyes, ercle for me his nineties,
that's nineties. Joey. I wentto school. Oh sorry what what?
(31:26):
Oh no, I was gonna sayI went to school with Steve le Or.
Yeah, I went to UCLA andhe was there at the same time.
I never went to any class withhim, but a friend of mine
was in a class with him,and let's just say he uh thought very
highly of himself, as he should. He's the most iconic nineties Who else
did you go to school? Didyou go to school with anybody else?
(31:47):
I feel like UCLA you would dowith something people Michelle Kwan. Michelle Kwan
was there obviously, all the athletes, you know what, which athletes were
there when you were there. Ihad a class with Cedric Boseman, which
was yeah, yeah, that wasthe Steve Lavin here. So like there
was a year where great team.But of course Steve I haven't didn't take
(32:07):
us anywhere like Jerome Oiso, DanGas Reach Reach, I remember that.
I remember that very cool. Yeah, my favorite player was j R.
Henderson though, of course, butyou know that's awesome, That is awesome,
Joey. Who is your nineties mosticonic character sitcom of all time?
(32:28):
Wren from Renden Sympia. Oh mygod, yeah wow that one. Yeah,
yeah, this show that was theclolest thing I've ever seen. You
should have went, Davis. No, I'm that's good. I'm still taking
simpio, gotcha. I don't know, Reck, I don't know. I
mean the most iconic that could beyour favorite who's iconic? Come on,
(32:52):
that's not that's not iconic, rightRed from Red I beg to disagree,
sir. That guy is you showled to anybody on the night who's walking
in the nineties and they're going tothat guy is bigger than Jolie White,
maybe not bigger than Julia wet buthe's give me, I cott it,
give me, give me an Icottic on, I'll see. I'll see
Carl Winso from Family Matters, Imean, and he was in some people
(33:16):
confuse Carl winszow and I'll go Phil. Sometimes yeah, they they've even had
like an episode where he even says, hey, give me five bucks.
I told you looks just like UnclePhil. And then Uncle Phil comes out
he goes, he looks not thelike me. Are we getting voted on
this because I like this because ifyou guys pick those two, you guys
are splitting the votes. I wasgonna tell you if you did if we
(33:38):
did, if we were to goahead and grade these arguments, the guests
always win, So you I wouldtake. I would take George Cassands over
over Steve Verkle. Yeah, okayo guy, whatever I was in the
pool. Just because of the pool, you were being compared to Larry David.
(34:00):
That's why you wouldn't take George Costanzaover. Okay. So what so
personality of the time? Am Ia Larry David? Am I a jerk?
I get it that way? No, I I you know, I
sense that you. I don't sensethat you're a jerk, but I sense
that you think you have insecurities thatmight think you're like, am I a
jerk? And I think you might, which is okay. I was gonna
(34:20):
say, but if I if theinsecurity is there, that means I'm I'm
mendible. I I can be Ican be fixed. I feel like if
you're a curby enthusiasm me just sittingin that pocketing on I'm a jerk,
I'm gonna lean into this. Ido think I do think he enjoys a
little more than he lets on though, Like he's like he's in one of
you, but he's like that's notthe worst thing. Well, listen,
you can't be the host of ashow called Arguments and not have a stickler
(34:45):
jerk side to you. You haveto have a little more of a boat
in there. If not that,it was just this is just a friendly
discussion of arguments. That's all.That's all let's go from. It's just
having a batbone there. There yougo, Eric, thanks so much for
coming on. Congratulations and again thebook it is called Eric Gez The Power
of Personality. It's available today.Check it out on Amazon, Barnes,
(35:08):
and Noble wherever you get your books. Eric, we really appreciate you taking
the time. Oh, thanks forso much for having you. It was
really fun, very cool. ForJoe Kelly. My name is Dan Levy.
You've been listening to Bargaments and onceagain, please go ahead and share
this podcast with like minded individuals,anybody that wants to mix it up.
We have a Facebook group called BargumentsPodcast where we go ahead and post all
(35:29):
kinds of different arguments and if youwant to jump on there and throw on
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