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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Marry Craig speaking not other clients. You get it, especially
upright city. But then the only society of angels is
up in heaven. Me and mortals are honorable only to
a degree, the almighty dollar being what it is. Andrew
proper reside me on the fifth ave of the bus
because he looks too close to me, and I wasn't
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not to because of the scar and the people I know.
Godfrey's less. Just call it my heart. I transpread my
wallets to these side pockets furthers from him. I'm not
a good friend. Second story wrong again? Uhcnivate so awesome
is the sidewall? Don't tell me you're in some honest pray.
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I am now the sa you better yourself every day
when getting bad and good. That's right. No, don't come.
Oh tell me you think I sat next to you
on purpose. I can tell when the guy does. He
got your guys up right now? Not quite well, I might,
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I I don't know. First consider what I say. I
murdered a man an hour ago. Oh it's a fine day, boy,
and I started. Now I've got him in a sack.
They wi it would do. I had the best of motives.
I order really sed a cough. You're a confidential investigated
use your life. He makes you a technical armor of
a log born to uphold it. You've been reading my
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wall literature. If your gouty to detain and arrest me,
I'm not the obliging type. All right, I'm getting off
the bus, getting off. I don't know what to be gold.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Weird not so.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I got my anonymous friends feeler right off cause I
really confidentially wanted to find don't find out before he
dared to hire him. Good story was a fake time
to see. If I grant I'm in the out police,
I'd be saying more of him. I got to see
him again in the house car, but for ten minutes
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him while I was working out, turning some excited or
punch bag. My friends showed up, still watched me. They
were tell me your bunch to me, Craig. Now back
with me again. I wart on the bench here, we'll talk. Yeah,
well I'm part so I'm moody gift moody.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes, huh.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Jiff means I've got gypsy blood. Also, you uh get
rid of that corp okay, and the only kidding him he's
take you're for me you don't run blapting what you hear.
So glad I passed your test, and I watched my job.
Two hundred grands stole them from me five years ago.
I wanna get it back to explain Johnny Shoenix stole
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it from me. Set. Yeah, I I dimly recall a
company of treasurer or something an next con. I gave
a chance to work. Uh the work at once in
my company Export import Phoenix throughout my face and Blue
Town and got caught. He was grabbed in Canada, extradited
and convicted. Uh, I'm a little hazy. Convicted. Yeah, but
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he didn't do time. He didn't not in jail. I
mean he act to crazy all through the trial, kept
greeting about golphers and dragonflies and some dead ams and
I I don't know. He did wear a silver plate
mits go and it twitched to him. It closed one
eye every turn seconds. Anyhow, the judge took most of
hes got a mental test Tomna something or other or
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doctor college. Uh split personnel. Yeah, that Pheenis was not
responsible for his actions. He went through the silence, never
had a sylum up States comes out tomorrow out for
Han's in the papers. Yeah, Johnny Phoenix, the judge say
freed on a show caused rit does he still stands
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trials but the original us No, he isn't the same guy.
Which is the original rob So a doctor said the
d a breeze, so does a trial jud Phoenix is
a new man, sure and rehabilitated. Stats that your money
was never recovered, not a dime. I'm out all that.
They go two hundred grands doing story. I only had
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a practice, nobody short. These are at Riverhead. When Phoenix
gets out, stay with him. He's got the dose alid away.
When he goes for it, you'll go for him. I'll
give you five percent well penal grand if money if
you'll get my two hundred back from April sixth, nineteen
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fifty four.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You're gooting.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
To Barry Craig, confidential investigator.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The case of Johnny pe.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I was an a Riverhead railroad station in a state
right with Junny City. He can free about an hour
rail I kept out of sight while we waited for
the trade. A good looking guy, Phinnix pushing hair with
nature's own marcella bad broad shoulders, a good clothes horse.
When he could get properly togged out, no talent to retain.
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You never know he's been confined. I'm a train road
in and I watched Phoinix when I'm aboard. When I
tried to do likewise, I found opposition one moment. Hey,
let go my arm, my authority there, I'm sending to
the state police in city time, off duty. However, you're
under arrest for what molet station? A woman complains, molet
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station meaning matching. That's right, a description of a man
sick to you. While I'd laughed, but right now I
haven't got a sense of humor. It ain't tough. Won't help.
I'm a place for myself. I'll show you credential. God,
you do all that at the station house.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Aren't going to throw this.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I have authority to shoot a resistance. Put your gun away.
I've missed my train anyhow, I a train every two hours.
This train was special. Let's go see your complaints. The
complainant looks like she had subble with measures and state
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tail days, run cream cheek, born to wear. It's sil man.
There's just a man who annoyed you. Uh. You know
they have a superficient likeness. But my annoyer with oilier
grocer and on your tin here a quest thanks for
the generation. Dolls showed me around the station talking at
me in some strange tongue esperanto, and I go down.
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Sorry if I got getting inconvenience.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh nothing at all.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm only out of probably lousy ten grands. Back at
the river Head stakes and we again waiting for train.
Out for a master a mistaken identity routine I've been
caught up in. I watched the Golden Girl to come
back to the space and she did I really molest today? Hello,
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dal dog, are you out of your mind? I'm mad
over you?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Mad?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh do you really mean mad? I'd have to apologize? Oh, father,
just explain him, My mom, please, you're brooding?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Talk well? The City Sends are playing.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You're in the station before.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Man an oily fellow my size shake, wearing my clothes
as you told, stakes up with thin only oily your
guys therefore not me, honest? Why what do you mean
the only person molested in this deepo today was me
and you and Janetta deliberately deliberately is that subsurd to
keep me off the train, Johnny Phoenix, my brother head on,
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I can't understand the word you're saying. You've got me
grabbing around again? Baby? Who are you? I can be gentlemanrie,
I can be very rough. Well do we wretful? All right?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I'm you've seen it?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So you're a white white all a train we'll travel together, baby?
Oh it in sirely Quinn. You made me live seen it.
But you're gonna help me find them again. You're gonna lead.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Me back to them.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Come on, trains, don't wait on a train, we said,
as close as a law allowed. I sat a precaution
of fish and read your handbag. The ivory handle gun
surprised me just a little bit. I want it to wraffle.
Does that explain it?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
If I borrow a baby, can I stop you? I
want a drink?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Why had I even go to the club car without you?
We're inseparable, remember, boy? Can I get a hate on
you instead? The only thing I was wishing aloud we
were going to be separated by no choice of mind
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happened in the club car while Golden Girl was watering
your concert with Wirn on podcast. Fellow plopped down the
lowne decided, But a dudey like mead to available. They
don't shows to sit on my pide. I know why
in less than a minute. I know by the gun
in my ribs. I have to fill it out. Craig,
you wear a gun. I'm glad you're quick on the thinks,
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but steel and this is where you leave Rida Phoenix.
You've been to hoggingh jumping me a long while. Now
you really expect me to obey? I know what you think.
Any crowded club crab people all around this, conductors and stewards.
But it won't help you pay. You'd have to be
pretty desperate and sup you'd be crazy. Just kept me go, Craig,
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I grew when I think of the amount of door
with steer. All right, watch it quite ye? The station
up ahead, Sinner Falls. We roll into exactly three forty
seven after four minutes, you getting off the train alow. Yeah,
at the station, someone's waiting for you. Fermanly you playing
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far ahead?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I'll go an ask the deep.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
How do I come out in all it? We just
lose a client and an opportunity. No other hand than
I lose Rigger. Yeah, I lose her. She dropped no
less I stretch this conversation three minutes down and stuff
and start moving away. Keeping on in smer Falls. I
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watched the trains continue on to New York. See someone
waiting to greet the woods right on hand? That's fine.
I am found what a stake between two loads the
bread and you could call it a giant meat program. Hey,
why are you stand at my kids at the buggling? Now?
Is that nice? My car's there is this ride not
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to say, yeah, Candy set it up? Candy? Huh oh
that I just leap his name to you. No, no, no, no, no,
Candy can all the quack? Uh? What makes the station
a locome? No people? Jonal Paul's is a hick town.
Nobody in it? Or why I do it? For my asthma?
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I got asthma bad? This break is pound praise. So
let's right now.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Huh uh? Well we roger.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Around, just around. Yeah, you're worrying. Don't just rot. I
mean you don't mean nothing. That's no holes in is,
so don't worry. Huh. My orthers is just just all
around with you. See the sight. Run you into six
o'clock and I give you to he run me into
sixty front and to leave him Candy Land in New York.
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Get off that train and get lost together. Camby doesn't
want me phoning it. Hurt oppen til you write it too.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'd love to tour through the fall.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Take a call. I broke on your lovely face plane
from deep red server stall.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Wait all, Ye took a.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Long time come out lane, and when he finally dropped,
I fell on his gun, fell on his gun and
just lay there. I left my meat face friend in
the semi country stupor, and hurried into a play station
and telephone hopt in let me long st New York State.
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Least that quarter burst and the person we reverse charges.
I wanna talk to a gunant trive Rogers. Finally, long
last I arrived in New York. I still missed a
lot of trains. Te IDUs had come through for me
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and his The man and woman you discided on the
telephone got all the trains here in New York. They
went off in separate directions. Who had them shadowed?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I did uh? Where they go to? The ladies registered the.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Park Front Hotel as rita manning a phony name. He's
reader Phoenix. How about Candy? He checked in at the
Kilgar Hotel Killgar who name to me over in Brooklyn
High or reader of the park Front Hotel, Candy the
kill Guard. Anything else you gonna light me on? I
think so that story of Johnny Phoenix who called me
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over a long distance barn. The original step from your
client uh hit Moody, the uh subsequent trial of Phoenix
is insane behavior in court and the resultant confinement in
asylums and so forth? What to you as with? I
found it a stepan see in your tail why the
alleged two hundred thousand dollars Phoenix stole a ledge? In
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my review of the record of the case, no such
sumb Phoenix was booked in time for the septs of
exactly fifty thousand dollars. Well. In fact, I have a
duplicate of the Vestric Attenney's file. If you'd uh care
to see it, I'll take your words by a gap
between two hundred thousand and fifty thousand, a gap fifteen.
Buy both cool cherries for the wine, and your client
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magnify the figure to fire your uh zeal as a retriever.
No money's queer, but not like that. It's two hundred
thousand figure has some other significance. What I can't know
or go like what the question of emotive? Uh, Phoenix
never discarded any of the loop not a copeck. What
did the threats do about it? About trying to recover
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the money from Phoenix? I mean all the usual devices
and prisers. All we accomplished was a show by a Phoenix.
He acted, not climb the walls screaming. He was a
chimpanzee in the jungle as the Phoenix's asylum confinement. What
police activity about the money was there be obvious a
police plant right on the asylum helping the catch Phoenix
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and irrational moments win Phoenix's confidence. Yeah, quite an assignment
for a cop any insanity. We had to change our
plants every ten days. The sheer wear and tear. The
plant began to wonder about himself. Was he or wasn't he?
A Napoleon Bonaparte? Environment The same holds the personality. Sir
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as Jejul, You've been a big help. MM write a
letter of commendation to my superiors. My client movie didn't
exactly like explaining of the sepancy Between fifty thousand and
two hundred thousand, two hundred thousand were stolen from me.
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You're still avoiding my question. What do I want to know?
Why did you only charge Phoenix with stealing ammasly fifty
thousand in your original police complaints? I had uh private reasons. Now,
if I'm to come true for you, I can't be
in the dock. Well, the bulk of the money was
the sum I couldn't afford to broadcast publicly. Whatever that means.
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You're in export import huh yeah, export import.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Export import is.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
A fifty board heading. It could cover a lot of
operations above board and underheaded forget them a goods and
contrabanded sometimes let it go at that cast deal for
the dogs. No record of it on the book. Stop
making out a case a fraud against the government.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Catch the bay, eat it up.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
We'll have a party of the ways. I'm not unsure
with you, Craig. I like to know the character of
my clients. I'm honest and did on it. What's so
unusual about that every second guy you meet? Yeah, yeah,
busk for its own sake go under the old world
is a thing. Phoenix took advantage of my sensitive situation.
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You know in advance you could never prosecute them for
the whole sum of money so that you couldn't come
into the courts with clean hair. Yeah, that was seeing.
Since gim me you gonna use any of this against me?
Firstly that one where county you are two hundred thousand.
Now what answers? Oh? Oh, I get it. When you're
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counting you are five percent fee? You mean sure you
like money like everybody else? Oh, tell me something? Uh?
Who is candid? I don't know? Never heard the name
Iday is ready? I recognize the description twelve doubts, let
around the short time, five feet seventh things, brown hair,
brown eyes, that addresser, the descriptinians absolutely nothing to me.
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That's funny. There's a guy who knows you well enough
to be scram over for your money, and it's a
mistery to me on either side of being exposed and
the jackals come around jack Olson jack assid. Okay, I'll
speculate around, Craig. What the way you cross examined me before.
I'm like a cop, not a confidential operator on my payroll,
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So don't double crust me. Or I'm not stupid and
I'm not helpless. Put it on the line mode he
be a cop with me? After all, I'll kid you.
I'm sure you could well, Well, what will assure me
that you're still it's confidential.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I did that.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I only did a line meaning I'm not working for
you anymore. You op the case. I didn't say that.
Then it is a double crust clean hands. I only
like clients with clean hands. Hollorry money, rag, stay out
of my business. You're kind of business mode is public business?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Ah happened?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Like that case where you dump a client mid Street,
well from contraden to compu change the boys, guys, you're
working without sea in the public wheel and welfare great
only doesn't buy any grocer. At the Killinghall Hotel if
in Brooklyn Heights, I got candy room number from the
desk crike. I also got an advanced tent and how
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frankly they could get up in Canby's room. I spied
the district on a telephone, and the second after I
started to the decade the desk crit chipping Canby off
to my visit to be a gunner up theirs waiting
to greet me. What kind of a hotel was it?
It was that kind of a hotel. In the hall
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outside Cannedy's room, I had a scheme to do out
man over a Candy's gun.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Candy, Frank canby want a runner? Thirs like, that's your
first runners.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Flattened against the sidewall of the hall on a line
of fire, where as the candy opened the door.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Come, why it is right? Might try to shook now? Oh,
any room can be.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Revived before the police. Times inside called for it showed
up and you think fastly, I have to to keep alive.
How bad tire wom I only shot to mobilizers, but
I already consider it well entrepreneur in bigger swindows. When
you're a free again, that it you've got no shots
against me? Very fellow in law? That turn you carrying,
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and I'm but talled on me? So I pour it
on run. Depends that on how you co operate, cooperate
how Frank talk fast me? Where do you come in
on Moody's missing two hundred five? I enforced myself in
meaning I don't mind the left field. I don't know
Moody and I don't know Phoenix, but I don't know
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about the door. You understand me? How it do we
freeli the crime? You're a fly honey anywhere draws you
had sat yeh got a preaking record so far and
now unlucky who until you who tried to detain me
for you and soon and fall? That's me you next
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cause black ball out of boxing for from five. He
hinds out to me. You get away from him? Huh?
I out wrestled him and was afraid of that, afraid
you'd get the phone. I head to New York. That
is a pin. Bring you hand him? You should have
knocked me off on that train. And I still can't
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get it that way too only or lad murder. I
shied away from it. You who shot at me out
in the hall, I's have to make you slow? Yeah,
h what are we waiting for? Poo tangular way? Tie
to your candle. You're out of the game, past the dyce?
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What can be out of the game? I set out
to eliminade another player USA. I found her in the
dining room was a pop front hotel. He wasn't better
than ilize when I joined her at the table while
she was amusing, just a prize you mean? Or what's good?
Take him for the d what's him? Body's in the
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clunk bank? For what we're moving?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Can be. He've been giving me a bad.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Time, asking me where I can find Johnny Phinnix, Asking
me where can I find Johnny Pinnix? I'm dead, stupid?
Maybe what crazy? If you keep dreaming of that money,
I've stopped dreaming. Mean my husband gave me the brush.
Johnny wants a divorce. What does Johnny say about the
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head and leap?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Not a word to me?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
What's the hes say about the loop? H? No deal?
I get the money, I kiss at once, m hand
it over to the authorities to be held the next
grow or get mooting? Oh where do I find Johnny Finnick?
Expect me to tell you? You might see Johnny's red
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viue out of his line seven forty two Buns Street
a rooming house Johnny's hold up there when you're surprised,
and tell him you're there. By courtesy of reader Reader
without Love. At seven Fund Street, I finally got back
with Johnny Finnick. Funny thing, though they didn't seem to
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care a bit the money, Craig, I I don't want
it because keeping it is too hard. Oh the fellow
who stole it, I'm no longer him. I've had therapy.
I've got a different focus down all who plans for living?
You sound like a walking testimonial for prison photiotry. I
feel lighter. I don't walk out bounced.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You know what I've done me two.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Days of been free spots red books on the church.
But to the one I a hoorays for the new man.
So where's the dough?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Hit?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Buried? An empty lot in Long Island town name bulletin
where I grew up as a kid. I'll drive you there.
Let's go then bulletin. We ran into it the prize.
No empty lot, I I don't recognize the seating, give
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it away five years Just what's different? Well, what's you
see the house standing there? That's the kick time you
say the house there was built on the empty lot?
You buried the money in? Yeah, the exact spot, the
markers around. I recognized that that plump of trees there.
I counted twenty pages north and two pages east. Then
I buried the money that would put the money from
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the middle of the foundation of the house. You know,
what do we do now? How deep did you five
years ago and sixty in building the house? An excavation
of at three twelve feet was made. I mean, uh,
the money was exposed to their buildings. Mean you wait here.
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I'm gonna make some inquiries inside the house, the most
possible good inquiries inside the house, inquiries around fullert generally,
and some research in the police file. I'm curious as
to why a house was built on that exact spot.
Badly chose a location in a low land where rains
create a swamp land and with the nearest town near
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the east, west, north and south at least two hundred
yards away. Wait here, if any I made my inquiry,
nose around, did my research. The following day, I brought
them to seat Tray Rogers to tell him who to
go arrest. I'm to arrest a homeowner and a town
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on Long Island. Call tell of them. That's right. All
wanna named psy Canaday, psy Canada and Joe Califf the
name falls on that is h Should I know a
cop shirt? I could send you pour into police files
on Johnny Phoenix, spare me. The par police headquarters assigned stool,
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pigeons and plants to the asylum Phoenix with the piny hen.
I had the names of the miscellanies and sundry plants
and schools here abens Tyler Wilson, McKenzie Califf. Is it
uh beginning to join? Yeah? Colens Joe Coles, a professional
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stool pigeon that the Piper employed years ago. The steel
Pision spent time in a prison asylum with Johnny Phinnix,
time enough to pump Phoenix and get himself a road
map to Bernanza double across the police department. You always
take that case when you're engaged stool pigeons. It's a
calculator risk killer. Dug out the money in bulletin, then
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had a contract to build him a house right over
they expects put for him a weird device kind of
the house kills's calculators with to make the quest for
the money look hopeless. Money was lost to the irony
in a housing excavations. Never thought anybody would be shot
enough to look behind his end there, says Canada respectable
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homeowner and family man at this late day.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But you did.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I might not have. All the time I was making inquiries,
I was sure I was wasting time cases tire Sometimes
I on not when a friend so make the arrest