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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to be a voice. This is Brick Carpenter on
USULA Media. Thanks for joining me today as we continue
on with our theme for this season's shows as far
as switching gears. I am sitting here today with a
friend of mine and a community member who has made
an impact in many ways, one of them being he
is a small business owner that's making it big. He
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is a person that has made transitions in his own
life personally and professionally, and he is sitting here with
me right now, and that is Tim Gallaway. Tim, Howdy,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm great?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, I'm all right. I did like three takes on
the beginning of this because great start. That was your fault. Man,
you messed me up.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hey, look I can. I'll bear the burden.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You make me sweat. It make me sweat, bro, It's bad.
But anyway, thanks for finding the getting out here, because
it's been like pulling teeth, you know. And this is
cool because this is how we met. You and I
met for the first time face to face. I was
doing your podcast, that's right, and that was a year
ago almost almost almost August, I think it was, I
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think so, And we were able to do that and
It was cool and we connected because number one, you
knew about Philly Unknown, which is my nonprofit, so you
knew about that. We connected because you were looking to
do you know, a donation drive and you're looking to
do it because our missions sort of aligned and which
was really cool and I love that. But I know
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who you are, Tim, and I know that Good Works
is because you are the owner, the founder, proprietor the operator.
You are everything, the custodio engineer, you answer linking emails,
you do everything I do. You are But I know that,
So tell my audience who the hell is Tim got Away?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh that's I don't know if your audience wants that,
wants that?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, So I'm Tim. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I just moved out to Philly about a year ago.
I brought my business, Good Works with me. I had
a really amazing opportunity to link up with fuel Hunt,
who is a Philly fuel Hunt is a Philly based
business as well. I share space with them and they
are incredible dudes. Joey Bowen Andrew Beach who are Joey
is through and through Philadelphia. He is a Philly guy
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and so I made a connection with him in twenty
twenty two, I think somewhere in there, and I got
connected with them and are values and kind of like
morals and the way we approach life and business and
relationships really aligned. And they have a beautiful space and
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they had extra space. And it was time for a
change for me and for good Works because my business
has had reached a point where I was unable to
keep up with the demand for my product, which is
an incredible problem to have.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It's not a bad problem at all, No, not at
all that as a small business owner, correct.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
So I reached that point and I needed space, and
I needed a space where I could bring employees in
as I've been growing the business.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So that was the goal.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then part of good Works is something that I've
always done with Good Works is to make sure that
I give back, that the business is not solely about
me creating products. So what I do make, we haven't
talked about that yet. I make soft goods, like everyday
carry soft goods, so pouches, bags make. My flagship product
is called the Boogie Bag. It's a hard use hit pack.
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I hate saying they're indestructible, but they're pretty damn hard
to break.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
For people listening, they won't be able to see it.
But people watching, they can't pick yours up. Oh yes, yeah, yeah, hello.
And it's cool because you know, like I love I
loved wearing the sandy packs because you carry everything in it,
you know. But you know, that connotation of saying fanny
pack was always just such a weird connotation.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's why I say hip pack, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know, as a hip pack, but you know, you
call them boogie bags, which is so cool because it's
a little.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Bit more of a hipper a hipper I caught that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'm making sure he's not that slow I am.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's just I just had a fluke.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's the whole Michigan thing though.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That's why dang, don't throw don't throw the Midwestern at
a bus, Come on now. But no, this is a
and this is an atypical one. This is not a
standard like this fabric is way different than what I
normally use. This is actually a duplicate of another piece
that's going to be raffled off soon. So the you know,
the flood just happened in Texas and Hill Country, Texas.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And I know folks who are down there that are
helping doing it like a lot of rescue and h
sar uh sar exercises and stuff like that, and I,
you know, I see stuff like that and I can't
to go down and do the cool guys stuff man like,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I can't get down there and like search through debris.
I can't clear debris.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
You know, I'm not a trained professional in any sort
of way, so I can't help with like trauma or
recovery or anything like that. So what I do try
to do is help with my business enable that. So
what I'm kind of looping back to where I was
going was good works has not just been about the product,
but about the community and being able to serve. So
throughout the course of my business, I've I've run I
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like raffles because raffles generate more money than like an auction.
So to help generate funds, what I'll do is I'll
make like one off gear, I'll I'll combine combined forces
with other businesses that offer things that people want, like
I've worked with fuel Hunt Fuwel. Hunt's going to be
contributing to this, to this raffle, which is really amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So if you will, Hunt is a name that a
lot of people know.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, yeah, they're a very well known, well known name,
and like fight weear in apparel, right and they you know,
they're they're they're mantras, and their mindset and their ethic
are all things that I at H two is like
I'm wearing my own shirt today which was printed by them,
and like, you know, I have a shirt of theirs
for every day of the month. So it's like I
really believe in what they're doing because it's like, you know,
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we kind of coalesced, like we come together and have
the same way of approachings. So with Good Works, it's
always been about giving back and it's not just about
me having a business to make money for myself. Granted
that's definitely an aspect of it. However, the more money
that I make, the more money I can channel through
my business, the more money and the more change that
I can affect through the business.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
How long have you start How long would you start
Good Works? I started Good Works in twenty twenty, twenty twenty, yes,
and that was right at the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, so I was a photo journalist for about ten years.
I was a freelance fold of journalist in Detroit. I've
worked for Detroit News, Detroit Free Press, New York Times,
All Street Journal, Associated Press, you know most you know
a lot of the large local and regional and national
publications I've shot for. And I also had like a
portraits headshot studio for a while. I've shot weddings and
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you know, I've done all sort of done some commercial
work too.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You're hell a photographer. I mean, you took that picture
of me last year, and I keep that up as bad.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I mean, yeah, that's that's you can make enough for
a year and.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Hey, you know, yeah, I mean I haven't moved it.
I haven't seen some people. Some people it's more difficult
than others. So if your's is still up, then I'm
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, I mean, I mean it's good subject to shoot,
but you know, anyway debatable. I remember, so I'm keeping tabs.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, twenty twenty happened, and at that time I had
a studio in Flint, Michigan, so I had already moved
out of my main area of business. And as a freelancer,
I mean, you you get a call and they say, hey,
can you go shoot this at this time? And it's
a yes or no and it got to the point
where it wasn't worth me going down to Detroit from Flint,
which is it's about an hour drive depending on where
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in Detroit you're going, you know, hour plus drive. So
it wasn't worth me driving down working in an assignment
for four hours and then driving back home for one
hundred and twenty five bucks.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
This is the first time I've ever heard your accent
come out.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What what did I say? That hour hour?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You should Yeah, the way you said it though, was
definitely that that Michigan Troit Canadian border. Don't say that
that's exactly when we go with Michigan Detroit, but that's
where I associated though, that's what it sounds like. Yeah, well, no,
it does. I if I were that was the very
first time ever going to come out. So you were
in Flint though, and Flint yourself is not a so Flint.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Flint had has its own, like whole separate set of issues.
One of the things that I got that I was
fortunate enough to cover, and I say fortunate with a
often as a photojournal so you'd feel like a vulture
because a lot of times you're going into people's homes
and lives and like some of like the worst days
of their lives, right, and.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So, but those stories need to be told, so you would.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Kind of I think if you had any sort of
moral compass, you would kind of struggle with that as
that professional doing that. But I did get to cover
some of the Flint water crisis as that was going
on when Flint had switched from Detroit water to the
lake and then they switched back and then what ended
up past was is there was a chemical reaction within
the existing water system and I started releasing lead and
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contaminants into the water. So people were having all these issues,
like people kids were getting like rashes and hives, taking baths,
the drinking. You couldn't drink the water, so there was
a there was a big issue with that. So I've
covered that well, No, I wasn't, so I've never lived
I've always been on Detroit Water thankfully, so like I didn't,
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I was never affected personally by that. But having gone
to people's homes and you were affected personally that well.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
In that aspect, I think, you know, I think people
don't realize when when you are a photo journalist you're
telling stories that need to be told, that you know,
it's not sensationalism. It's the truth, but it's a different
way to do the story.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So being hopefully hopefully hopefully so.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know, when you say, you know, you being a
predator of vulture, when you go in like that, I
think that's the mindset of certain people. But I think, like,
you know, it depends on how you present it and
how that's.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Really it's done tacked. It's certainly tacked, and it's certainly presentation.
And I think that when I'd become a photojournalist, I
think that that realm has changed drastically, you know, And
it's been you know, twenty years, close to twenty years
since I was interested, like like really pursued that path,
and if you follow media, if you follow news, you
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know how drastically it's changed, you know, in the recent
you know, recent decades.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think that a lot of the a lot of the.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I can't I can't grasp the word of them searching
for right now, but like the prestige, like the like
the kind of like the honor that was behind being
the fourth Estate has been lost. And I think that
a lot of it is due to people wanting to
spin stories, organizations leaning certain ways and I'm not saying
one way or the other, it's it's both on any side.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I know what you're talking about for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So it's so, you know, that was really a sad
thing to see as I was becoming more and more
PFI and more and more involved in that, in that
realm and that profession, that it was just starting to
decline more and more, and that was that was a bumber.
So in twenty twenty, what happened was is we started
getting all the isolation tactics happening. Everything was getting shut down.
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I started getting emails and calls saying, hey, you can't
get access any longer. The A lot of the staff
photographers were okay because they worked for these publications whatever
they happened to be, But as a freelancer, you don't
get afforded a lot of the same opportunities, right, So
I started getting phone calls and emails saying, hey, you
know you can't do this.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So what were my choices?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like I could do what just sit at home and
you know, take a check from the government. Like that's
a hard pass for me.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So I was like, man, like, what do I like?
And I've always been I've always been a gear nerd
like I love backpacks and pouches and things with zippers,
and I like stuff that have I love knives, and.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I tried to be.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I tried to be, but in my youth, my youth
I was. I was much more calorie dense and falling
was quite painful. So like I I loved like the
like the style, and like I was a metal kid,
so I had I had a nice deck, but like
I never I never I could.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I could, but generally riding ended up and tumbling and falling,
and then you know, you know they you know, the
bigger they are, the harder they fall. And I felt
pretty hard.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So but it also makes sense with being a photographer,
you know, having your your your camera bags.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's it. Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Compartments and zippers.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And I'm one of those.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I'm one of the people that if I get fixated
on a thing, like if I look for for instance,
I recently upgraded some of my camera gear and because
I still still that part of me still lives on
it was one of the biggest different It was one
of the most difficult things to shift from the identity
of a photographer to what I'm doing now.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That was a really difficult thing for me to transition from.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And I recently got a new camera that was like
a super excited about, and I got like a couple
of new lenses, and I was like, I need a
bag because I have to have a bag for my camera.
And I can't tell you how many hours I spent
like just looking at like, well, what what would the.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Use case be? How would I use this? How would
I organize this? Like, so I went down like this
rabbit hole, like how is it built, where is it built,
what materials is it made of? How big is it?
What's the his placement? Am I going to put a
water bottle? All these things?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So like I love that stuff, Like it's just something
that I fall into. And whenever I'm looking at things,
I tend to be critical of them, and not not.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
In a like this sucks way, but a you know,
it would be a little bit better if so I figured,
like why don't I try to make my own stuff?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's still sort of this stuck sort of way, though
not as negative though, I guess, yeah, yeah yeah. But
so that shift though, and you're right, you did a
shift from storytelling through photojournalism to making bags. Yeah in
twenty twenty, because you're going to take a check, which
is very admirable because most people sat back took a check. Yeah,
and that did work.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I can't do that, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So but my bags of everything you could have done
other than the fact that you like zippers and because
how dud then.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
There it was I don't know, like I would look
at bags and packs and go, you know what.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Like I could, I could probably figure out how to build.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
This, but but this wasn't like you like ordered bulk
bags and added to it. You were making these from scratch.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yes, so like so to be clear, like I don't
have a backpack yet. Like it's one of the things
that I've like dreamt of, like building, and it takes
time to develop, like to build and develop these things.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So I started.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I started with pouches before before May of twenty twenty,
I had never touched a sewing machine.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
So I I was talking to my mom.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
My mom is big into like embroidery, so it's it's
a it's a completely different realm. And so like we
started looking at sewing machines and she ended up buying
me my first sewing machine, and it was a heavy
duty domestic machine that was used for denim.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And you have never sewn before, never on a sewing machine,
never like never like in home ack, you didn't have
to class and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I'd never I'd never touched a sewing machine before May
of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Have you ever stitched anything by hand?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, so this is.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Maybe like a button probably. Yeah, So I got I
think it was like the end of April, early in May.
I got the first machine.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I went to YouTube University, and I went to Joe
and Fabric and Michael's and just started buying stuff and
just started just I sat in a basement in the
basement in my home where I was living, and I
sewed stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
During the pandemic. Yes, you went from like you isolated
in a basement to selling.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Oh, isolated in the basement and sewing in the basement.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah. Wow in Flint, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Outside of Flint. It's like just outside of Flint.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah. Still, you know it's the one that you were
in the booming metropolis area.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No. And I was in a little, uh a quaint, quiet,
little suburb of Flint, about six miles away from Flint
and yeah, man, I was just sewing in the basement workshop.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That that must lead you to a well you're by
herself and leads you to a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well I was, I was married. I was married at
the time.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Okay, So it was in it was in the home
that I shared with my my now X, so like yeah,
like it was like that I was at work, Like
that was work for me. So she you know, she
also she had a great.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Job and she was currently.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Unable to work. She was in the health she was
in the healthcare in that realm, and so she was
unable to go to work for a period of time,
so she would just be at home hanging out. And
I went into the basement with my sewing machine. So yeah,
and I then I launched the official start date of
Good Works since June fifteenth, so between the yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Wow, not even like six weeks. Yeah, not even a
few weeks. So let me and we're gonna get warns.
But good works.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Good w e r K.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Why the why were you being different?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Is there civilization there or no, it's just just wanted something.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So like it also kind of reminds me of like
euro stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I'm I'm a huge eurocr NERD I love like Volkswagen Audis,
Porsche like those are like I have my my dream
cars and like as a as an RS six Audi,
so like I have I love that. So it just
kind of like a twist on that I was gonna
I was gonna go with uh stitch Works, And then
a buddy of mine at the time he was like, yo,
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you should look at your hand, because like I have
good tattooed on the back of my hand, and it's
a daily reminder to like that everything is good. Like
you can like you have a problem, good, you have
the opportunity to solve that problem. Like you have an injury, good,
you have opportunity to rest. Like So it's like a
thing that I try to like keep in mind like
every day as I approach things that like your environment
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and the experience that you have in life is completely
dependent on your perspective. So if you can maintain good
in your mind for everything, if you can find that
thing in that obstacle that's good, then like then you're set.
So and he was like, good man, I call it
good works. I don't like that that's a great idea,
but you're doing good, right And that was That was
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the next thing was like the plan was always to
involve the community and always to serve. So that was
like a just kind of came to be that way.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So you're in twenty twenty, you're in the basement, you're
in outside of Flint, Michigan, you're living with your now
ex wife, and five years later, as you just had
your fifth anniversary. Because I was there at the celebration,
which was amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It was incredible, A good time, good people. Yeah, good energy.
I think you know, we talked about it like having
that quality as individual is so more important than that quantity. Yes, individual,
but you know, most people like you know that are
in Philly, they'll make a change by going from Fishtown
to Brewery Town, or they'll go from you know, you know,
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from Grad Hospital to Ardmore. You know, you went from
Michigan to Port Richmond. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Look, I guess I'm closer to Kensington the port Riche
but yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You know, people you didn't know boundaries.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We talked about. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Was that due to the few will Hunt your connection
with Joe.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, so the connection with fuel Hunt was the was
the primary reason to come to Philly.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know, I came out in I want to say
March of last year. It was it was March or April.
I had connected with Joey. There's a whole story behind it.
A friend send me a fewel hunt flag is a
holiday gift one year. The flag says trust hard work
on it, and hard work is something that I truly
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do believe in and that I thought I knew what
it was before I.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Came here, but like since I've been here, I'm learning
more and more what hard work really is.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So I had that flag sent me with my photo background.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That gave me like a really significant leg up with
my business because it enabled me to create content that
was eye catching that helped me, helped me grow.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
With that.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
You know, I posted a picture of my flag with
my sewing machine and like, you know, they sent me
a message. Know, I taged him on social media and
they were like, oh cool, you know, super cool, like
thanks for flying with us. So and over the years
we kind of developed like this friendship, you know, an
online and online friendship. And one day Joey sends me
a message and says, hey, man, like I've been thinking,
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like we have all this space, like how can we
help you? Like, you know, we we kind of like
he went and like did like a deeper dive in
my business. And he was like, you know, I appreciate
like how like you know how you approach your business
and like what you talk about, like how you you know,
how you represent yourself and your business. Is there anything
we can do to help you? I was like, I know, look,
I'm from from the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Man.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
For me, it's always like no, I'm good, I don't
need help, Like it's just it's kind of like how
we are as people. And and I was like, nah,
like I'm set, but I was like, but if I
think of anything, I'll let you know. A couple of
months went by and I was really like unhappy at home.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I needed a change. Business was doing really well.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I didn't have the ability to bring somebody in, Like
I couldn't bring an employee into my home. So I
was just like, you know, I needed another place I
needed to you know. So I sent Joey a message.
I was like, hey, like you made this offer to me,
what does it look like as far as like you know,
you said you have all this space, A lot of
it's unoccupied, Like what does this look like for you?
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Like is it a potential to you know, to bring
good works there?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So we met up.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I came out, drove out, met up with him, and
it was It was one of those things where when
you when you get with somebody that you align with,
like the time time becomes like no factor. And we
had a meeting, like you know, we had a meeting
set for nine forty five, and the next thing, you know,
it's like two forty five in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You know, we checked you know, he came, you know,
gave me the tour. We checked it out. We talked,
We talked.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Business, but we also talked like jiu jitsu and cars
and life and like all.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
These other things.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
There's all these other aspects and you know, modern society
and you know how like our approach to life and
stuff like that. We talked all these things and it
was just it.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Felt fluid a connection.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, it was, and it was. It was. It was
a genuine connection.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Which is really hard to do in this day and age,
especially as the older we get. Sometimes.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I'm kind of conflicted on that. I'm slightly conflicted
on that. But Joey and I definitely have a solid,
like a solid connection.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And I want to address when you say you're conflicted
in it, and I know why you are, because I
at least I think I know why you are because
if you take away potentially good works and the stuff
that you're doing, connections may not come as easy sometimes,
but when you put yourself out there and you put
yourself vulnerably out there in front of people, those connections
come a lot easier, especially when people start believing in you,
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you start believing in yourself. And I'm just saying that
because I've seen that with good works and the people
that are there.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Thank you. Yeah, that's that's That's not where my mind was,
but that that does, that's get perfect.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I'm gonna agree with take that, run with it, and
just move right.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So we'll run with that. I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I was thinking now that actually, like we tend to,
we're more connected than ever, right because it's it's those
little it's the little electronic bricks that we have in
our hands that are that are always keeping us connected connected,
you know, and we we have this. I think it's
a facade. I think that it's a it's a shallow connection.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It's a look at me? What's that?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's a look at me connection.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's it's not even like like I'm not even thinking
it as so much as that, but I think it's
like a superficial a only like a surface level connection.
Like there's no it's difficult to sit down with somebody
that you're across the country from and have like a
solid conversation, to be able to make eye contact, to
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see mannerisms, to hear pauses, to pay attention to how
somebody's breathing, or where they're looking or what they're doing
with their hands or any of these things. That is
something that we're missing with that, right, Like we're missing
the interpersonal things because that you can't get on a device.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But we think that we're getting that.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I am a huge believer that we have downgraded in
our society today because of the technology. You know, it
lost a lot of it. You know, for me, don't
text me one hundred times, pick up the phone and
call me for fifteen minutes. Let's solve it right there
and then you know, and I'm not already talking to you,
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but okay, remember that, no take that, please.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Hold let me get my phone and put store in
the notes.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You know. But for me, that's that's really important, especially
when you have a lot of shit going on. You know,
you have a lot of stuff going on in your life.
You know, you have life, you have a business, you
have your personal life, and we all do every you know,
but and we do. But I think that people take
for granted that sometimes they don't. Yeah, so that's why,
you know, I always feel like, you know, make it
a fifteen minute call if we have to, instead of
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a four day back and forth sort of thing. And
in my head, that's the personal connection. Yes, that's what
I love. And that's sort of what the foundation of
Philliam known was connections. So hearing you say that is
why I love hanging out with you guys because of that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But anyway, go on, we've got so directed. So work,
oh Philly.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So yeah, I came out, came out, visited Joey. It
was super you know, it was it was a great
it was a great time and like we you know,
before I took off, I was like, you know, I
can see good works in this, you know up there,
and he was he agreed, and he was like, yeah,
like I can too. So he said, you know, give me,
give me a little time, and you know, we'll you know,
talk with my partner, you talk my co founder, talk
with the team, a fuel hunt and I'll let you know.
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So a couple of months went by and finally got
the green light. So I did what I needed to
do back in Michigan and I came to Philly.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Machine.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I packed up all my sewing machines.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
How did you have at that point, because I was
twenty twenty when you started.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, so you came a year ago, twenty four. I came.
I came out in June twenty four, four years.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So I actually moved in on the four year anniversary
of Good Works into the Fuelhut space sick to the day.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So when the fifth year anniversary a couple of weeks
ago was also the one year anniversary of being in Philly.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So same same day, a lot of civilization there. Yeah,
so we I kind of may or may not have
planned that, but it worked out. It worked out to
so that way the anniversaries do coincide.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So how many silar machines did you come with? Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Man, let's see, I just got I got a new
one recently, so I think I have I had five
then so I have six one, two, three, four five.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yes, So you graduated from not knowing how to sew
it all. Your mother bought you your first sewing machine.
You're in a basement and all of a sudden, now
you're uprooting your life and you are doing a total Yeah,
and you have five sowing machines.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, and it's that's that's that's quite simplified. I mean
throughout the course of Good Works, I was able to,
you know, bolster my workshop at home. You know, the
entire basement in Michigan was full of was full of
my stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So your whole operations out of the basement. Yes, because
you were you you got online and started selling the products,
which people could find at good works dot com.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Good dash Works, good w E r k e S
dot com.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yes, and they can find that. So you were also
doing all your drop shipment from your basement.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So I would have to I would get all my
I'd have like a day a week or a couple
of days, like depending on when orders would come in,
and I would just grab the i'ld get all the
orders packed up and I'd just take them to the
post office. Like I just like take them all in
and drop them off with the post. So it was uh, yeah,
mean it was.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It was a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I mean it was four years later. You get your
you get your five stone machines, and you get into
a space and that flag is still with you in
that say, because I took a picture of it at
the anniversary.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, so it's uh, that flag has returned home.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
That's crazy. It's full circle.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, really full circle. So it's pretty pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So you get the Philly and you're coming from the Midwest.
You know, I've been to Detroit, Detroit. Did I say
that right Detroit? Yeah, we don't say it right over here.
Everybody says this so differently Detroit.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Some people say Detroit Detroit. People say I've always said Detroit.
I don't. I don't do the Detroit deal.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Well, the Kiss said it in their song Detroit.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, but they're just singing now.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And then you know that fucks everybody up there.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And well, if only if you listen to Kiss, I do.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I do.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So Hey, anyway, I can see I can see you
rocking out the Love Gun.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But a minute I said that, I'm only gonna mention
and love Gun. I still have the album with the
the album actually came with these little punch out things.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And what was gone and stuff. Yes. Nice.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Anyway, we're getting sidetracked, Tangent. But you show up here
in Philly almost like here, I.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Am, yeah, that's yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I rented my my apartment, I rended sight unsecene just
you know, went online and the same one.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I'm actually I'm actually really excited. In a few weeks,
I'm moving so and I am moving to Globe Die Works,
which is where the workshop is. So I'm going to
be walking to work and from work for the residence.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
They do, yeah, they do.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
So I'm gonna be I can out like in the winter,
I'll just be able to walk through the building.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
To the shop if I so choose.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Does that excite you?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, I'm staked about that. Like I'm actually quite excited
about it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I think for me, if I didn't work with people
like on a daily like that would excite me. If
I could go and I could be by myself and
not have like you.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Well like a Carolina, you know, I have a full
time employee, Like you know, Caroline is there Monday through Friday.
She's you know, she's there with me.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Throughout the week.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So wait, you've been in Philly for a year and
you have a full time employee that you employed and
apart time and a part time yeah, and yourself Yeah,
and you have space and yeah, so you really took
this business and just ran with it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, there's there's no there's no other option.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
How many how many? How many bags did you funck
up before you got to the point where you're.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Like, this is innumerable?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And I don't know, it was a matter like and
I'm One thing that I've really had to work on
with this business is letting go of perfectionism. And that's
a that's a big struggle for me. And because I'm
I'm a very detail oriented person.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Photographer, well, some of I'm sorry journalists.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
There's two. There's some different realms.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Your photogoist, I'm sorry. As a photo journalist, there's an O,
C D aspect and a type a personality.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
There has to be.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I've I've come close to losing clients because of typos.
One one time I switched an eye in and O
in somebody's name. The person saw the byline and they
contacted the newspaper. I got a call from my editor
and Matters said, if you do it again, you can't
work for us any longer. So there's like attention to
detail is a big thing for me, and I still
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and it's still when I'm building, when I'm making my stuff,
it's still top priority for me.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And I tell that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I tell that to my employees too, Like I'm okay
with people making mistakes. I am totally fine with questions.
I like, if you, if you mess something up, come
and tell me. I don't want to find this. Like
while I'm packing a bag and like putting an order
together and I see that there's a mistake on something,
like I want you to tell me mid mid line.
I want you to tell me midstream, so that way
I can go cool, no problem, this is how we
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fix this, or hey, we'll just we're just gonna put
this aside.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
And we'll worrd that. Gentle on yourself when you may
miss never never never never, So when you're making those bags,
you messed up, And how mad were you at yourself? Mad?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I was, well, I did.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
There were there were times where something would happen, like
where I would have like a catastrophic mistake on a bag,
and I would just just be furious.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I've had like I've tried.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I know they're tough because I've tried ripping them apart
with my hands and just like just pulling I couldn't.
So like there's been like moments where I've had to say, hey,
you know what, like I know this stitch is off
an eighth of an inch, but like it's okay, Like
no one's gonna know.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I wasn't saying that's the beauty I think of it, like, you.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Know, that's that's that's part of it for sure.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, you know, unless you know the specific details of
what your your your stecs are, what you're selling and doing,
you know, getting the stitches there, nobody's gonna know, you know,
I know. So it's even more interesting. It came full
circle that you were so hard on yourself, but you're
saying to your staff, now, hey a staff you have
a staff in a year, Hey, it's okay. So you're
learning different skills too with this whole.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
There's there's there's really actually it was I was having
a conversation with Caroline today and just discussing I talk
with her about business, about like what what it's kind
of like what I'm dealing with as like somebody who
runs and owns this business, and there's always there's always
something to modify. There's always an obstacle. There's always there's
a it's like a ping pong like there's there's you're going.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Back and forth.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
So my issue before coming out here was I don't
have enough hands to build enough product to meet my demand.
Now I've got the hands, I have products, and now
I don't have enough demand for my product. So now
I'm having to switch gears and like I'm I'm having
to shift what what I do in order to build
that demand again. Right, So there's always there's always some
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sort of struggle, there's always some sort of obstacle. But
through those things is like we we learn, we learn
about ourselves and we learn how to like fix those things.
And I'm a big I'm a big fan of Stoicism,
like Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus Seneca, I like, I really love
Stoic teachings. So there's a book by Ryan Holliday who
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is like he's like currently.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
The the the like the guy that knows the Stoics
right now, and he has multiple books and one of
his books is the obstacle is the way and it's
it's taken from a.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Marcus Aurelius quote, and I like, I have one thing
hanging on my wall in my in my apartment currently
and it's a canvas of Marcus Aurelius. Like I absolutely
love their teachings.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
But the obstacle is.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
The way, and it's it's the thing that you're budding
up against. Is the thing that you were trying to overcome.
It's the thing that like you're you're getting the friction from.
Like that's addressing that is holding is it has the
answers that you're seeking. Like that holds all the answers.
Is figuring that problem out. So as a business owner,
there's you know, you run into these obstacles and it's
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like okay, Like as long as I don't quit, I'm good.
Like I just can't quit, Like that's the only thing,
like figure out the problem, like I'm I'm. One thing
that I'm good as is troubleshooting. Like like I've I've
worked so many different jobs.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
And one of the jobs that I just I really loved.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
My brother owned a company and he's he's now he's
now dead. He died in twenty eleven. He's he's my
half brother. He's much older than I was. He had
a company and we would go install encrypted point of
sales terminals. So back in the day when states were
migrating from the paper food stamps to the electronic benefits.
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Remember those old square, gray varophone boxes. We would go
install those veriphone boxes in locations and we would program
them specifically for those locations, so that way when they
would dial up their modems and connect that the correct
location and accounts and stuff would be going through as
people like scan their car, like swipe their cards through.
So we would also set up these massive networks in
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these in these like grow likes, you know, we would
go into a grocery store and it would have like
twelve lanes and say like six of those lanes had
an EBT terminal. So we have to do is we'd
have to network all these terminals together so that way
they could communicate and communicate like properly and on time,
so that way, like they're not communicating over one another
getting caught up and so like, we would often run
(35:44):
into problems like Okay, there's no dial tone at this one.
Why don't we have a dial tone like okay, Like
is the jack wired correctly?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Like yeah, that's good. Okay, great?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Is it plugged in on the other end? Okay good?
Is the punchboard wired correctly? Okay, that's good? Okay, zerich
is there a kinking line? The line get broken somewhere?
Like So through that I learned troubleshoot and like I
got to do that with my brother, which was really
like we would drive all over the.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Place, like we be all over the road.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I'm older significantly, he was, uh, he was my half brother.
He was seventy one when he died in twenty eleven. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's I have a I have a very strange family.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Bagh crount.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It's a different podcast, Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
That's a whole that's the whole thing in and of itself.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
But stuff you find it out here.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, the uh.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But the things that I learned from from being with
him on the road were really just incredible and like
having you know, being able to problem solve so and
I can, and you know, being a business owner like
I didn't know a lot about like I was too
young to really understand and you know how it is
man like as you as you age, like you start
seeing these things and remembering these things that you were
told in your younger years, and.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You're like, damn, like he was right, Like man, like.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
I should have listened, Like I should have listened, I
should have done this. I could have done this differently, man,
if I would have paid attention, I would be like
some you know these things. So like you know, he
ran his business, he had partners, but like being able
to see that, like the freedom that he had with that,
and like what he was able to do, like build
the life that he that he built for himself, and
like and we're vastly different businesses, but being able to
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see him like troubleshooting, and he was always the dude
that was like he was the boss. Like he was
the boss, but he would still go out and do
the installs. He would still go and go go to
the depot like where we would program the machines, and
he would still come in and help box the machines
up and get the kids ready for the installers.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Like he was still that guy that would.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Come in and like and then say hi to everybody
like he knew everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
They always say that the best bosses are the ones
that do the work with you.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Absolutely, you know, like I, you know, a dog walking
in paster and coming, I go out and I do it. Yeah,
I'm not above that that. That's that's important. It's dirty
with your employees and show them.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
That it's your business, irresponsible for every aspect of it.
And if you can't sit down and do the things
that you're asking your employees to do, then you shouldn't
like you, you shouldn't be asking them.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
To do that. Exactly. I've always said that I would
never ask an employee to do something I wouldn't do
so and.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I have like today, like I'm building, I have a
new products called the heavy Hauler. It's a big tote
the size of like the large.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Talk to me about that. I saw that on the
Is that the one on the internet. I just saw
him Like he has a tote?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah, I I have a couple of him. I've got
to have like a little mini one. Yes, thankfully.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
That's I was at first, I'm like, look at the
ship that sold out. I'm gonna text him. I'm like,
that's a good thing. It's sold out.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
But you can text me and I'll get you set up.
It's that's it's too easy. That's too easy. So the
heavy Houlers, I'm building and building a bachelors and they're
brand new. I've only released them once so far. And
as I'm building them and and and I'm putting them together,
and I'm talking with Caroline, and I'm saying, I said,
you know, hey, like I'm building these out because I
want to make sure that I know exactly how I
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want these built. Because as you build something, as you
make something, especially when you do it hundreds of times,
you start or find these this minutia. You start finding
these little tricks that make that put them together, like
the way there's there's a way there's if have you
heard of the Book of fi Rings? M okay So,
I always I always mess up his name, Musashi Musashi Miyamoto.
(39:16):
I mean I always mess up his name. It's the
Book of Fibrings. Sorry for messing up his name. He's
like this grand master sword fighter. But he talks about
the way of the thing itself Miyamoto Musashi.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I think, is it anyway?
Speaker 3 (39:28):
The way of the thing itself? The more that you
do something, the more that thing reveals itself to you.
So and that can be anything can be riding a bike.
It can be walking, it can be meditating, it can
be swordsmanship, it can be jiu jitsu, it can be
it can be anything. So in my case, like it's
sewing because it's what I do day in, day out.
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So as you're building these pieces, you start to have
these little these little moments where you go, you know,
I could do this better, Like I could sew this better.
I could sew this more efficiently. Or if I if
I hold this piece this way and I push this
piece this way, it'll go to better, It'll go together better.
So there's all these little things that start to come
up as you build over and over and over and
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over and over again. So as I'm building these as
I'm building these pieces, like I'm telling her like, hey,
like I'm going to build these because I want to
know exactly what I want from them so that way
I can do it and then I can show you
how to do it. So you can't expect people to
do things that you can't do yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Oh. Absolutely, And it's just it's just good practice, Yeah,
it is, it really is. It's a good sign of character. Yeah,
And so you know, dude, you know, going from photojournalism
to going to selling bags, which isn't just selling bags
and not making light of that. No, but you know
that that's your skill right now, that's what you do.
You your garments, you know, products and accessory, which is
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amazing stuff. How does that changed you personally? Because that's
that's that's a big switch. Man. It's not like you
went from like running this to running that. You went
from two different ends.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, they're different, they are different skill sets for Yeah.
You know, I'm very grateful that I had the the
background that I had, like because it helped me generate
content that I needed to make myself stand and like.
And I've built websites and stuff too, So being able
to build my own website to populate all the content
by myself, not having to like pay somebody to do it.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
I used to also write for a local publication when
I was in Flint. I used to write and shoot stories,
so like I had experienced building copy, so like I
was able to build all the copy myself. I was
able to shoot all the all the visuals myself. I
was able to run all the social media. I built
the website myself, like I did all that stuff. So
like that was a huge benefit that I had as
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I like switched over and like it was it was
tough man Like I used to participate in go Rouck events.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
It's for those who those who don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Go Ruck is basically you put a heavy backpack on
and you go out and you do these military based,
team based endurance events.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
And I used to be known in that.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
People in the city doing that. It's them, Yeah, They're
walking around the city like crazy men and yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
So I was known in that community as a photographer
because I had worked for Go Rock for a while
and then I had shadowed a ton of events. I
had a really solid crew in Pittsburgh and steel Cy
Rock Club and through that community, like I you know,
like I was known as a photographer because I my
photos are good and like I was good at what
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I did.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
So when I transitioned.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Over to.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Two Good Works, it was really I was out in
Ocean City, Maryland for an event that I was photographing,
but I was I already had launched Good Works by
that point, so I was going out for a group
of my friends. I was going to make photos of
the event because it's gonna be super fun and some
people knew me as the photographer and then some people
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knew me as the good works guy. So it was
like this kind of like strange transitional thing where it's like, man, like,
I'm not like I'm not known as like the photographer anymore.
And that was a you know, for the longest time,
it was my dream to go to go chase conflict photography,
like I wanted to go in bed like that was
my that was my ultimate goal and I did never
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achieve that. And I did never achieve that, but it
was kind of like having to let go a part
of myself that I really like defined myself with. Like
we get into these these cycles and revolutions in our
lives and we start to identify as certain things and
it doesn't matter, like it can be anything. Like a
lot of people identify with their career, a lot of
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people identify with their hobbies. So and I identified as like,
I'm a photojournalist, like I built I'm an image craftsman,
like I build images. And as that started changing, it
was it was tough for me.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
To let that go.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Because that's that was your persona you know, so if
you had to identify with now, you know, sitting here
in twenty twenty five, after everything, how would you identify?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Man, I don't think I would anymore.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I really, I just I'm just me and like I'm
just like this weird amalgamation of like the experiences.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
That I've had are the same me that you were
though in No, definitely not. Are you saying me as
you were in twenty twenty three? No, you've been evolving.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Huh yeah, big time.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
How does that feel?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
It's a mixed bag.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
It's you know, it's it's it's it's you know, part
of it is like wildly empowering, right because part of
it's like yo, man, like it was scary coming here,
but like I'm here here, like and like I'm still
like I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Like you know, things are things.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You're getting how many so many shoes you have? Now?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah? One more plus one?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah plus one plus one, but plus an employee plus
right though?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, so you're building. Yeah, I'm building.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Revenue is up and like, you know, businesses, you know,
people are in a weird spot right now because of
everything that's going on, like socially whatever, everything right, But
like I'm really grateful, Like revenue is up some like
really actively working on getting new customers.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
That's like the biggest thing I need right now. But yeah,
I mean like.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Things are, things are better. I'm definitely not the same
person even even a year ago. I'm not the same
Like I said before, Like when I came here, I
thought that I knew what hard work.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Was and man like I had, I had no clue.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Like now I'm the guy that gets up at five
thirty in the morning and like gets to work, like
have my breakfast, go to work.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
You know, I say, surround yourself by the people you
want to be, like yeah, or if you're if you
you know, with my my homies and the fu Will
Hunt crew.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Rule number eleven is you are who you hunt with.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Amazing And I think, I you know, and I want
to I want to touch real quick, you know, before
we close, on what you've built and what I've experienced
and what I witnessed because you know, you told me
everything how you feel. I'm gonna tell you what I
saw and when I saw it with that as and
I said it that night, when I saw with your anniversary,
I saw people who traveled from many different stays. Idaho
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was not one of them, though it knew this. I know,
I know my geography. I know that Idaho is right
up the road. Were cool, Yeah, gave.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Me alone, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
But I've seen people travel to come here. I've seen
people slept in their cars overnight to be a part
of this event. What you've just started is not just
a garment industry. You started a movement. I said it
that night. And it's hard for people to understand when
you understand when you start a movement like Joey has
started with a few, like Philly Unknown has started. You
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have started it because you have these people who show
up for you, and they're showing up because of you
and what you have. You know, what you have developed,
what you have built, and you continue to build it.
And it's impressive, man, you know, and that evolution. You've
evolved so much, even the year and the year that
I've known you, You've evolved, you know, from everything from
physically to mentally to spiritually. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
And then what you said about like those people showing up,
like that's that's like really like the community of good
works is like the biggest thing man. And and that
was like, you know, I had Travis and his wife
came up from South Carolina, my buddy, my one of
my best friends, Corey Murphy, and he brought his daughter
off Indiana like that was it was huge. And Kevin
Walker came up from Baltimore like that. That was incredible
to have those people like show up. And I don't
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want to say, like show up for me, like that's
that's I hate thinking.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Of it like that. But they can show up for
the bags.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Well I know they didn't show up for the bags,
but I want.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Give yourself credit where it's due, my friend.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
No, it's not that it's for me. At the point
of that was to celebrate the people who wanted to
show up, not to celebrate me like it was. It
was me trying to do something to show like my
appreciation for others, right like I did. I didn't want
to do that just to be like, hey, you.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Know, but they showed up because they appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
So it's a it's a mutual thing and like yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, But like I.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
The point of it wasn't to be like, hey, you know,
I'm celebrating me for five years. It was hey, like
this is thank you to you, you that I made
it five years because like without those people who show
up for good works, without those people who who constantly
who continually throw into raffles, like I'm fairly certain, like
I'm you know, almost positive that we've garnered over one
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hundred thousand dollars for various nonprofits over the years. So
like you know, and that's that's gonna I'm gonna continue
to work on that and make that better because that's
a big thing. So it's like the people who show
up and do that, the people who who tag me
and post, the people who put their gear through the paces,
the people who just send me a message and say, hey, man,
I love this, or who you know send me a picture,
Like I got a picture from a dude who doesn't
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post on social and he posted a picture of him
like he was like out like fishing, and like he
was wearing his boogie bag and he caught like a
fit like fit like when he was out like deep
sea fishing or something. And it's like that stuff is amazing.
It's incredible, Like to be a really small part of
somebody's life via a hip pack or a pouch is
like it's wild to me. It's it's absolutely just mind
(48:57):
blowing into like to have people like have the cognizan
and like the thoughtfulness to be like, hey, like this
is what I've what I'm experiencing while I'm wearing this
piece that you built, Like that's incredible to me.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
So if you know, in like a sentence or two,
if you could tell somebody who is on that fence
about you know, making that switching gears sort of thing
in life.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
And oh, stop waiting, stop waiting, like if you know
what you're called to do, like if you like and
I don't feel like I'm called to do this, it
just it just the way it worked is the way
it worked. But man, if like you're in a job
that you hate, get out, leave the job, like you
gotta go because there's no more time, Like you're dead,
you're already, like we are. We are ticking down to
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the day that we die and that's it and then
nothing matters. As soon as you stop breathing, nothing matters anymore.
So it's just like, stop stop doubting yourself, stop delaying,
stop living a life that you hate, like, stop like
putting yourself through these like this like nine to five.
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You know, I'm just in it for the weekend job,
like stop, Like if you feel cald or compelled to
do something, like there's no reason to not to, and
people think that, oh, you know, I need to believe in.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Myself to do this. It's bullshit.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
And all you have to do is like take a step,
because what's gonna cause that belief, what's gonna cause that confidence,
what's gonna like build that is you taking one step.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Go toward.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
It doesn't matter how small it is, it's something. And
the way that you build that confidence, the way you
build that belief is by taking a step and then
another step and then another step. Man, I was scared
shitless to come out here. I thought I figured I
would be like on the streets by now. I like,
there's like, man, cost of living here is crazy. My
business wasn't like you know, I didn't know, like I
I my like my personal bills like quadrupled coming here.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Oh yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
And I was like, like what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (50:52):
I had to I'm making it like I've never in
my life had a panic attack ever except for the
night before I moved here.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
I can understand that.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So it's like, you know, people people are afraid to
invest in themselves, are afraid to take risks with themselves.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
But if you get rid of plan B and you
are your Plan A, and that's it, you can't lose.
If you don't quit, you can't lose.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
If you don't quit, you can't.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
It's impossible that it's it's either it's either a win
or it's a lesson.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
I love that. So if people want to follow you,
where can they follow you?
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Off the cliff?
Speaker 3 (51:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, so I'm I have a Facebook account, but I
I I low the Facebook, so I don't really check it.
My Instagram is just Instagram, slash good Works, g o O
d w e r k S and that's it. And
if you sign up for my newsletter, you gets like
a ten percent discount and you get updates for the shop,
like weekly updates. And that's how I notify people that
stuffer good wyphen yep, good hyphen works w E rks dot.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Com dot com if they want to or get on
there check it out. Yes, sim this is amazing. You
are amazing. This has been really cool to be able
to ask you the questions. Thank you, able to pull
back's always asking me questions and you know, pull some information.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I'm an inquisitive person.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
So but thanks for all you do and thanks for
all your support and I appreciate it and being sure
you checked him out. Make sure you check out his
boogie bags. They're sick. I love mine. It's something that
I cherish and I'm not going to tell him, but
I actually like carry it with me a once all
the time. So uh, but Tim, thanks again. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
And I'm gonna I know, like time is time as
all of it. But I also really appreciate what you're doing.
Like being able to go to the garden was super
powerful for me and helping out and like I know
that Murph loved it and like Travis loved it, so
like and then seeing like the things that you're doing
in the city, like I sat when I learned about
like because when I came, like I had no idea
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about Kane, Like I knew a little bit, but like
one of the first things that I did, like once
I found like Phillia known like after because Kellen introduced us,
I sat in my apartment and I watched I watched
like all the documentaries on YouTube that I could find.
Oh geez, And so like you doing the work that
you do is like powerful and like seeing that is incredible.
So like if I can do something like a little
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bit to help continue that, like I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Well you already are. So you've done it. You've and
you've got a brand new law mower, our first brand
new law more. I cut the grass for the first
time with four wheels on the lawn mower. This is sick.
It was awesome. So I appreciate you saying that. And
it's because of people like yourself and the sport that
I get that I can't do that. And that's how
this works.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah, absolutely, that's this whole little crazy thing called life. Yeah,
so we need more of that.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Absolutely, So everybody to make sure that you fall to
make sure you check out everything Good Works is doing,
and remember whatever it is you stand for, be a voice.
This is Brick Carpenter Loosilute Media. Have a great rest
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