Life as a Witch, Reiki Master, & Ceremonial Tattooer

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I wait a year because I hate it. I don't

(00:01):
want to say hate, but I will say though, Mark
is like he has some like some of the slightest
touch I've ever felt. Really, I was like, wow, he
said that too, But everybody says that, and I was like, wow, no.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
No, I say that all of my clients that all
the time. I think that it's just I don't know.
I hate getting tattooed. It is pansy you you.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hate getting tattooed, but you're covered, okay.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
So honestly, I feel like I got a lot of
tattoos before my central nervous system was healed, so it's
kind of I mean, I turned thirty and all of
a sudden, I was like, Wow, this ship fucking hurts.
It's not fun anymore.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
That's why I tell him, I mean, you waited.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
You had one, dude, Dude, I had ago. I had
a high school tattoo.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I literally had this like little baby cross tattoo that
I just wanted to like say, I had a tattoo.
So I just got like this like little cross on
the back of my calf. I got it when I
was eighteen, and I literally did not get a single
tattoo until like seventeen years later. Damn so so literally
went from eighteen eighteen to yeah yeah, I mean yeah.

(01:11):
I mean if like you got more than one tattoo,
like people like looked at you like what the hell? Yeah,
what the helly.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's how it goes. You get one and then you
get twenty. I think that for me, I just wanted
to get tattooed so quickly when I was younger. I
wanted to fit a certain aesthetic. That's what I was
around growing up, and I think that that was what
catapulted me into getting this heavily tattooed. Yeause, I went obviously,
I went falls to the wall, like my whole face
is tattooed. The top of my head is tattooed. After

(01:40):
I got the top of my head tattooed, that is
what I have, the top. I have an eight point
star on the top of my head. That solidified it
for me. I was like, I do not have enough
trauma to continue to get tattooed this way. This is
absolutely ridiculous. Like what I was like catatonic, just sitting there,
just like I looked at my husband. I was like,
don't speak to me. Don't talk actually, like don't even

(02:01):
breathe in my general direction. That was so horrible. But
I don't know, Like now I use numbing cream cheap yeah,
and all that offer cream what I would have offered
you numbing cream.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Marc just does like the little Marcus does a little
spray what's it called?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
But I don't get pieces big enough to I feel
like I would need it, yeah, and like yeah, I
mean I'll do like four.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Hours max, two hours to maybe two and a half
three on a good day, and then I'm like I'm done.
I'm like, but that's me and my friends in general,
like my friends that tattoo me and whatnot, like we
all kind of like their back will start hurting it
around three hours and then they're like you want to
call it? And I'm like, yeah, I've been done.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
O please see, I'm like crazy with it. I just
tell Mark, like Marcus, the one has to be like okay,
He's like, yo, I think I'm done for it. Today
I was like, you are you can't go anymore?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
You're just in there. I'm ready. Please, Let's that's wild.
I see I can't do that anymore. How old are you?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Just turned thirty?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Eight.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Wow, okay, not you're not old.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, you know we We've done all these different tattoo artists.
We're like, hey, let's just keep this going. I met
you at the shop and I not only heard great things,
but after I followed you on Instagram, I was like,
this is probably the most interesting tattoo artist that I've
come across. And Mark, Mark, I love you. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
You're sorry.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Mark, You're not You're yeah. Yeah. Oh Brandon too, Brandon,
You're fucking great too. But Chloe, Chloe is a little
bit more interesting. So I'll throw it over to you
real quick. Kick us off. Chloe. Who are you? Where
are you from? What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Wow? That is such a huge question. I am a
tattoo artist. I am from Las Vegas, Nevada. No, actually,
I was born in LA was born in Burbank, raised
in San Diego, like a little bit in LA like
Studio city for like the first five years of my life.

(04:14):
San Diego for up until about eleven, and then I
was here. But I've been back and forth between California
and here my whole life pretty much. I've been tattooing
now for ten years, thirteen years. If you want to
count my apprenticeship, which I don't actually count it because
that was when I was learning. Yeah, but I've been

(04:35):
in the game for a pretty long time and I
now do ceremonial tattooing. I bring tattooing back to its roots,
well back to its roots, excuse me, which is something
that is very near and dear to my heart. It's
how tattooing in all honesty, in my opinion, should be.

(04:55):
It is a form of energy exchange, and that is
what brought me to doing ceremonial tattooing. So I'm a
little bit different than your typical tattoo artists. I do
tarror readings, chakra balancings, reiki, energy healing, and then I
come up with a tattoo intuitively designed just for you,
based of like off of our energetic session. It's it's

(05:21):
kind of changed the way that I view tattooing, where
it's not just like a tattoo er client relationship anymore.
Like we get very deep and you create these incredible
bonds with your clients, you know, and you assist people
on their journeys, you know. Like I'm just kind of

(05:41):
a stepping stone now where people come see me when
they're about to go through a very deep dark shadow
period or something big is happening in their lives, and
it's a form of giving back in my opinion, you know,
so tattooing for me, I like being in the game
for ten plus years. Tattooing has always been an energy exchange.

(06:03):
But I needed to learn how to protect myself with
all of the energy work that I was doing, so
I ended up getting reiki certified and then it just
went way deeper. And that's not really something you see
in the tattoo industry. There are people doing it, do
not get me wrong. There are people that are bringing
ceremonial tattooing into the industry and it's been around for

(06:29):
that's how tattooing began, you know, since the inception of tattooing.
But I think bringing it to like the US and
you know, different places around the world. I think that
that's an absolute beautiful thing and I'm just happy that
I get to be a part of it, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, so that's really cool, right, Like same as him R.
I beg into tattoos since I was eighteen, but like,
you know, different people, but I've never heard of that before.
But can you break down the steps that you just said,
like it's like reiki healing. Yeah, sorry I'm blaking, but
could you break down the process of what that means
for someone who's never heard that.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Before, so to kind of give you the gist of
what reiki is. It is the movement of energy. So
it's basically me using my hands, you know, because we
are energetic beings. That is what our general mockup is.
It's energy, right, So we as humans, as souls of spirits,

(07:23):
were capable of moving energy, and that's what reiki is.
It's moving stagnant energy. Energy that's like dormant in your system,
energy that you've held onto with emotions that are being
held in different parts of your body that can create sicknesses, disease,
mental illness, so many different things, you know. But it

(07:46):
is the movement of that energy and healing energy being
sent to those parts of the body, to those parts
of the mind, and reiki healers. Depends like it depends
on who you are, depends on how you are in
tune with yourself. You know, how open you are to
your intuition will get different visuals. That's what I am.

(08:09):
I'm a visual reiki healer. So when I'm working on somebody,
I get visuals that come to me. So like it'll
be it'll be random, like I'll get whether it be
anything from bugs to like animals. I get a lot
of animals. It's very interesting. But I do get a
lot of symbols, a lot of sigils, a lot of

(08:30):
runes that come to me. I get a lot of words,
we kind of go. I get a lot of feelings.
I'm also a feeler, So where you are experiencing pain
in your body, I will feel it in my body
as I'm working on you, which is actually super intense.
So like say physical pain, yes, physical pain, So I

(08:50):
will feel your emotional pain in my body physically. So
like say I'm working on you and I'm hovering over
a certain point, because basically what it is is you're
running your hands down and wherever you feel heat is
where you're going to pick up energy. Right, I mean,
obviously you'll be guided wherever you intuitively need to go.
But wherever I stop on you, I'll get a pain,

(09:13):
like say, like you are struggling with a level of
self worth, I'll feel the pain in the middle of
my back, like in between where you feel, where emotions
are stored in your body, is where wild energy to.
It's very cool.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
So this is a this is probably a dumb question,
but how do you so? You know, you said you're
certified like Greikie healer, So you know, I've I went
to college for I think about six years, long enough
to be a doctor, but I never ended up being
a doctor, didn't really learn too much. But in a

(09:51):
to be a Reikie healer and certified all that, How
do you like? How does that work?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So you have to go through attunements? So I'm a
rake you master teacher, right, So I did basically everything.
I'm certified through a Sui holy fire holy fire reiki
and you do your first attunement, which then you have
to wait twenty one days before you are capable of

(10:17):
doing your next attunement, your your second attunement. And on
the first twenty one days, you do reiki on yourself
every morning and every night, you know, as much as
you possibly can, in my opinion, and then you go
in for your level two attunements, and your level two
attunements you're capable of working on other people, not just yourself,
And then you get comfortable and you start practicing, and

(10:42):
that's when you start bringing in more people that you
want to start learning and developing your gifts. Because I
swear to God, you get certified for reiki and it
takes you down like a massive path to your own
personal alignment. I had already been going through spiritual awakenings.
I had my first one at age twenty three, but
I swear to God, when I got my atunement, it
rocked my shit. I was sitting there like every day

(11:04):
doing healing, just like crying, sobbing, like going through all
of the motions. So when you hit level two, you're
able to work on other people and so your gifts,
I feel like if you weren't already attuned to them,
especially because like I've had them since I was a kid,
but they they were just escalated, you know, and you

(11:25):
start learning how to work with people and learning how
to feel different energies and learning to pick up on
the things that they need. Through that level to attunement,
then you go and you get your third level attunement,
and with holy Fire you get ignitions. So there it's
different than the attunements. You know. So typically like if

(11:46):
you're just getting certified and raky you would just go
to level three, but since I did Holy Fire, you
get the ignitions directly right afterward, and with the teacher
training you go through a whole entire level of that.
But you go and you sit with somebody over time
after you've done your work and you've practiced enough, and
they teach you. Reiki is like tattooing taught by other
reiki healers, which is absolutely beautiful. So it's just the

(12:09):
same sort of level of initiation that you would go
through with tattooing and like an apprenticeship, but you're being
taught by somebody else.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
When when you're doing the process of running your hands
through a person, why does I guess, Like why do
I guess? Give you an example of like a pain
that you'd feel, like in your back that what does
that attribute to to that person?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
So I guess it would depend on like obviously what
they're going through, But like I was mentioning earlier, the
pain in the middle of your shoulder blades, that would
be equated to self worth. So it has a lot
to do where like I'll get like a pain in
my heart if they're going through like massive heart opening,

(12:53):
energetic awakenings that their heart is opening up to the
energy and they're needing to release things or holding back
from releasing what they need to release. I'll get it's
not just necessarily like in your back. It'll be even
when I'm not running my hands down like their body,
I'll get feelings in my throat, like if they have

(13:17):
I don't like to say blocked. Okay, So like if
you have, how do I say this? It's like your
meridian system, your chakras. Right, So that's what we typically
work with, is your chakras. Through reiki, we go down
each chakra point. Okay, So you have your crown chakra,
you have your third eye, you have your throat chock
or your hard shock or your solar plexus, your sacral

(13:37):
and then your root. Right typically you would be a
line down the spine, down your back. That's where you
would view it. But and reiki, you're able to send energy.
Like I could be across the room and I could
be sending reiki to you. It doesn't matter if I'm
hovering over you, touching your body, run across the room,
it doesn't matter if you're in a different state. I

(13:58):
can send distance reiki you know, but I would get
the feeling that. Like if I get a pain in
my heart and then I get a feeling in my
throat where I need to clear my throat or I
have the feeling to cough, it's kind of showing me
that they are holding back from bringing their true emotions forward.

(14:20):
They're not setting proper boundaries. They're not allowing themselves to
speak from a heart space. Same with their back like
same Like if you get a feeling in your back
and then I get a feeling in my throat, I'm like, Okay,
they're not speaking love and to themselves. They're having trouble
with their self worth. There are things holding them back.
It's like every spot on your body that you get pain.
If you get pain in your knees, it means that

(14:41):
you're holding yourself back from something. If I get a
pain in my left thigh, this is like the feminine
side of the body. This is the masculine side of
the body. So there's different meanings behind the different sides
of your body, and everybody has it. It's in alchemy.
You have a feminine side and you have a masculine side,
and it creates one.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's like so that's how.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
You can feel it because everybody's chakras are technically aligned
the same way.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yes, So it's right down the center of your spine.
So you either have like obviously the both the female
and the masculine side of your body or feminine masculine
side of your body. They both play different roles in
your life, and they like, they're very much utilized with
how you exude a level of like masculine presence, like

(15:30):
putting forth energy, hustle culture, getting up and being motivated
and get it, like doing your shit, like getting your
shit done. And then the feminine side would be rest, creation,
nurturing yourself, loving yourself, giving back to yourself. It's all
about receiving, right, So you have all the chakras lying

(15:52):
down the middle. And I don't like to say blocked.
I don't I don't like to tell someone like, you're
blocked here, you have a block here that's stopping you
from doing what you need to do. I like to say,
you're either balanced or you're unbalanced. It's one of the two,
you know, And it's it's crazy how you like how
you handle yourself in an unbalanced state, like with each one,

(16:15):
like with your solar plexus, like your solar plexus is
utilized for depression, sad Like how you experience joy, how
you experience energy, how do you experience motivation? Like your
sacral is like sexual energy, sexual life force energy, it's fear,
it's anxiety. It's like all of these different things, and
how you portray yourself in the world. You know, So

(16:38):
if you're if you're acting from like a lower vibrational state,
like if you're partying too much, if you're indulging in
really heavy shit, you're acting from an unbalanced meridian system. Wow,
if you are nurturing yourself, giving back to yourself, receiving
after like giving yourself proper rest, after putting your yourself

(17:00):
like in the energy of like hustling and making sure
like all of the stuff that you created and your
feminine all those ideas that came to your mind that
you birthed into existence and then push to make it happen.
And then you're like giving back to yourself and doing
all of the right things and like treating your body. Well,
you're balanced. It's wild fascinating.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I'm assuming that most people that come are there's some
sort of imbalance.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, yeah, you know, I think that when people come
and they see me, it's just to gain a level
of clarity. I try to teach my clients as to
the best of my abilities that they don't need me.
They don't need me. We are hardwired as human beings

(17:47):
to have a level of intuition, right, you have your
psychic intuition, you have your gut intuition. So to me,
when you come see me, you're just coming to see
me for a level of clarity and a level of
underst standing of what your subconscious already knows. Because I'm
going to lay out those tarot cards and I'm going
to tell you. You're gonna be like, how the fuck do.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
You know this?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, And I'm going to be sitting here and I'm like,
because you already did you just came to me to
tell you.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I would like to let's go back a little bit.
So like you know, we're talking about all these different
aspects of you know, like you're reading with somebody, talk
to us about like start to finish when a client
comes in, So I book with you next week, I
have my appointment with you.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, absolutely, so.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I book So okay, so skip the book with you.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Like looking for October twenty twenty six. Really yeah, wow, I.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Know wow, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Before
I finished my question, that's actually very impressive. So so
when's your next opening.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
October twenty twenty six? I mean, oh, for you guys,
I'll come out okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Okay, So I come in two o'clock next Wednesday. Talk
to me what I should expect in a I guess
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
What do you?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
What?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Do you call it a ceremonial ceremonial?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So I typically like to call them ceremonial blood magic sessions.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Okay, So I book a ceremonial blood magic session with
you next week. Talk to me, start to finish what
I should expect as a client of yours.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, so you would come in I started three? Okay?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Is that because that's a school my daughter? Okay?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
So that's just typically how everything.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I was like, I was like thinking too much into it.
I was like, yo, three o'clock, Like what is that?
I was like, does that represent something? She's already reading me.
She's already reading me, like you got to come at three?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Three is a very significan another But no, it's because
my daughter would get out of school, and I would
come here directly afterwards. So I like to be there
for her and give her as much you know, of
my day as humanly possible. So i'd get here. I
set up the space for you, so I make sure
that the space is cleansed. I you know, clap in

(20:21):
all four corners, and I smudged the space, kind of
welcome and spirit set up the room for the reiki healing.
The raki healing is basically going on the entire time
that you're sitting there. So you come in, you sit
with me, we kind of talk a little bit. I
ask you three questions. So I ask my client, I

(20:43):
would ask you, in this case, do you consent to
the energy that's going to be flowing in this room today?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I do, okay, So then I would say, do you
consent to me placing hands on you during the reiki
session if need be, because body autonomy is very important.
And then I would ask do you have an intention
that you would like to set for the session. In
my opinion, I think that it is better if you
come without an expectation, just because the universe will be
able to tell you exactly what you need to know.

(21:10):
And kind of connect with your subconscious on a level
where it's like, Okay, you are right here. There's no
expectation for this session. You're not going to kind of
control where this session is going to go because there
has to be a level of surrender when you come
see me, and that's very hard for people to let
go of. You know, is letting go of control. But

(21:32):
that's the whole premise of the session. So we get
into it. I do a tarror reading first. It's based
off of different bundles, So if you do a Bundle one,
you get a thirty minute tarot reading, if you do
a Bundle two you get an hour tarot reading. And
we go into it. I pull like card spread tell

(21:54):
you all about what you need to know.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
But with.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Terror readings, like I said before, it is literally just
connecting you to your subconscious and bringing you clarity. So
it's what you need to know at this point in time.
So you can set an intention with me, and that's
where the session will be guided. But if you don't,
it'll tell you exactly what you need instead of what
you want to know. Right, So then.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Going tell me what I need to know?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I feel like that's honestly half the fun, you know,
especially going into and there's like a certain lore behind it.
There's a certain like magical, magical thing about allowing yourself
to kind of just be open to the experience, you know,
And I feel like some.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Pe w need drugs do that, right, So doing it
in a sober way is almost scarier. Exactly, you're choosing
to step in sis.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
And I tell people to come to me completely sober.
No drinking, no mushrooms, no, no sitting with any kind
of plant medicine. At I'm like, you're going to be
feeling certain sensations that are going to be very similar.
But I want you to be able to connect with yourself.
That's what this is. You know. Obviously you can connect
with yourself through plant medicine, you know, I think that

(23:15):
that's absolutely beautiful if it's done the right way, with
the right people and the right surroundings. But with this,
I want you to connect with yourself completely sober. So
right directly afterward, I set you up on my table,
get you opposition. There's blankets, there's pillows, comfort to the max,
because obviously you're gonna take a little bit of a
deep dive, right So I start with a chakra balancing,
which is me placing crystals on each point of your

(23:38):
meridian system, so each chakra, and then I go over
it with a pendulum and I clear and I balance.
So basically, you're telling the pendulum as you're over each
like chakra. You're saying clear, and the pendulum will swing
to the left and it'll clear, and then you say
balance and then it starts to swing to the right. Okay,
so you'll see the body kind of like start to

(23:59):
twitch or move or released energy. Yeah, it's crazy, but
it's so beautiful. It's it's so fascinating, and it doesn't
happen with everybody, but for me, that's a majority of
what I've seen. I feel like I've had more people
have bigger reactions to the energy rather than people that

(24:20):
have just kind of sat there, which the energy is
working regardless of if you are feeling it or not,
you know what I mean. That's the whole entire premise
of energy, where some people might just be a lot
more sensitive to it than others. But we do the
chakra balancing, and then the chakra balancing is a part
of the reiki. So I just moved directly right into
the reiki. Right afterward, I say my prayers, I go

(24:43):
into it, I call in protection, and then we just
move through the body, you know. And afterward, because during
the reiki session, I get the visuals of what I'm
going to be tattooing on you for our session. You
come out of it, I give you a moment. I
either step out of the room or I sit with

(25:06):
you until you kind of come to and let you
have as much time as you need, because that's that's
heavy for some people.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know, Wait, are they in a state of like
like trans almost as you're getting to two when they come.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Out Like so with reiki energy healing, I feel like,
how do I put this? I feel like it's kind
of like a level of meditation because your brain is
going to be going through all different kinds of thoughts
right while you're starting to kind of settle into the reiki.
And I tell people, I'm like, whatever comes up, allow

(25:38):
it to come up, thank it, give it gratitude and
say I don't need that right now, and clear it out,
you know. And if you kind of lose your center
because I make you breathe before we go into it,
I say acknowledge the thought, acknowledge the feeling, and then
center yourself with your breath, so you come back to
yourself every single time, because you will stray from yourself
in reiki. It's kind of impossible not to, but it's

(26:01):
like it's just kind of finding your center again, just
like you would in meditation, you know, because there's a
lot of time people give up meditating before they've actually
gotten to be able to meditate, right before they've gotten
to that place of like calmon clarity. And so when
you are in a reiki session, you come out of

(26:23):
it tired. So there are people that they'll come out
of it and they'll feel like a weight's been lifted,
or they feel like heavy, like they just went through
the ringer. Because reiki is maintenance, you know, it's energetic maintenance.
And I try to teach people, especially because like it's
not my like I want you to obviously come back

(26:44):
to me, but I think that a big part of
my purpose on this earth is to teach people how
to clear themselves energetically, because most people kind of don't
keep up with their spiritual hygiene. So that's when they
come see me when they're in like this level of
energetic overload, right, so they'll like think about it, like
when you go through something really stressful, like really stressful

(27:07):
or like a heavy amount of survival. Right afterward, you're
gonna feel tired. Body's going to need rest.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's to be exhausted. I get wiped out after a tattoo.
I couldn't even imagine I go through all of this.
I have all these realizations that I get tattooed. Man,
I might just just fall asleep sleep at the shop. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I feel so bad too, because like it's not over.
I have to tattoo them after that. Yeah, like I
actually have to.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, this is okay. So I was gonna
just so just the viewers can understand, like time frame here,
So everything that you've talked about so far, what what
like what kind of time frame is this? Are we
talking like an hour or two in right now?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
About?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I would say you're maybe two and a half hours,
in two and a half hours, in maybe two hours
to two and a half hours, depending because like if
you're in a bundle two, because the bundle two is
the bigger tattoo session, so you're going to get like
an hour taro reading an hour reiki and then the
chakra balancing with it that is about two and a
half hours, got it, plus I add like sound healing

(28:14):
and all. It's a fucking experience, it's right. But the
Bundle one, it's like thirty minute taro reading, thirty minute
reiki plus the chakra balancing. So it's a little bit
less because it's a lot smaller. My intuition is on points,
so I don't need that much time to be able
to pick up on exactly what they're going to need

(28:34):
at that moment in time. I just it's for people
that aren't necessarily ready to commit to a bigger piece, right,
And so like the bundle ones would take probably roughly
four hours to do all together, because I give myself
like a good two hour window for the smaller tattoo
it's about three to four inches. And then the Bundle twos,

(28:55):
I book out my whole day, got it all right,
And then I have a Bundle three. But that's actually
my witchcraft bundle, So that's for all of my my
witches and all of the people that are interested in
a little bit more of a deeper ceremonial experience where
we're creating a city. So it is. Obviously you're going

(29:22):
to get the reiki, the chocka balancing, and the tar reading.
But on top of this, we're going to dress a candle,
a ritual candle for you, and set your intention with
the candle for the whole entire session. We are going
to create a custom sigil that is going to be
put into your tattoo, and we are going to ignite

(29:43):
it right then and there. There's so a sigil. Sorry, okay, no,
So a sigil is a symbol that you create, right.
So the easiest way to break it down for you is,
say you want to embody something like you want to
embody protection, say like I am divinely protected and guided. Right,

(30:06):
you would write that down, okay, and then you would
take out all of the vowels and all of the repeated,
repeated letters, and you would kind of create a symbol
based off of the leftover letters in a sentence. And
then you can you can put it in water, you

(30:26):
can ignite it and fire, you can There's so many
different ways to ignite a schedule, but for me, I
like to burn it just to kind of release it
to the universe and let it go and let the
universe do what it needs to do. And every witch
is different, so however you do it, that's up to you.
But that symbol, you kind of create it, and you

(30:51):
can get creative with it, whether you want to put
it on a grid where you line up all the
letters and draw like different looped loops and whatever, however
you choose to make it, however you feel it incuatively,
or put the letters together to create a symbol. And
that symbol bonds you to that sentence, to that affirmation,

(31:12):
to that spell, I guess you. So that's what goes
into it. And then there's a ton of spiritual consultation
that goes into a Bundle three and a lot of
also consultation on witchcraft, because a lot of people will
come to me and they'll they'll want to learn, they
want to dive deeper into it though. And I get
a lot of people, especially a lot of people from

(31:36):
religious backgrounds that are trying to kind of separate themselves
from the fear that the church has taught. So they
are wanting to dive deeper into themselves, and I'm able
to provide a safe space for that and for them,
and that is what my bundle threes are are for to.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Connect with and I assume that's like a full eight
hour day.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, yeah, that one is also a full day experience.
I tell you to bring a pillow, I tell you
to bring snacks. I tell you to make sure that
you have uber eats or door dash on deck like
ready to go, and to bring a journal you can
record part of the session if need be. You know,
it's it's very much nobody. I always say, like, nobody

(32:22):
leaves my room without crying. It doesn't matter a man
or woman. It is such a deep session where it's
and plus I always say, like, if you're coming to
see me, it means that we've known each other in
a past life. Our souls have been connected in some
way because our souls are vibrationally aligned. You sought me out,
you found me, but that's because your soul recognized my soul. Boom.

(32:45):
So I'm being utilized in this life to be able
to help others with their journey just because of all
of the shit that I've gone through, I'm capable of
now teaching. So it's it's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah yeah, I have so many questions. So okay, so
the okay, so the the part where you talk about
like the candle and like the witch bundle. Right, yeah,
hearing you explain it, it sounds like it's very healing
and stuff like that. But like, what do you say
to somebody like I grew up pretty religious, right yeah,
and like that term, which is like not great. But

(33:26):
I guess, like, what do you say to that? Because
on this side, it sounds like it's a very healing
experience and you can learn a lot and you know,
I'm not on block, but you know, just open yourself
to universe. Yeah, like, I guess what's your like.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I thought on that.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I guess, Oh my gosh, I could talk about this forever.
In all honesty, I respect other people's religions very heavily.
I came from Christianity, very heavy Christianity, and just having
that religious background and that fear attached to it, I'm
able to relate to people that do have that fear

(34:01):
and do have that kind of like I don't know,
that's that's a water like I don't want to like
step into, you know, or like something that I don't
want to indulge in. Usually people will always fear what
they don't understand. Oh my gosh, don't smite me. There's
in Christianity a lot of it. What they don't understand.

(34:25):
It was taken from paganism. It was taken from a
level of witchcraft, a form of witchcraft. A majority of
your like a majority of their holidays, you know. I
think that there is how do I put this? God
is a deity, Jesus is a deity. Right, most people

(34:48):
will only view them, right, unless you're in Catholicism, but
most people will only view them as like the true,
the true, like ideology and religion. With me, I there
are other gods, there are other deities. I still I

(35:10):
think that God is a version of yourself, right, I
think that we are all God. I see God in
your eyes. I see God in your eyes. It's different.
You are connected, Like how how is it that we
are so connected to nature? Like our fingertips, Like if
you look at them, they literally look like the ridges
on a tree trunk. Like there's a nebula in space

(35:31):
of like eye nebula. Like they're so right. Yeah, it's crazy.
Like your body is a part of nature, You are
a part of God. We are all souls that have
come down here to have a human experience and some
people do not awaken themselves to that human experience, or
do not awaken themselves I should say to themselves, you know,

(35:53):
there is safety in religion, and I think that that
is absolutely beautiful. If you feel safe in your religion,
that is something that you feel safe. And for me,
I did not find safety within Christianity. Right. I felt
suppressed because I always had these these gifts that nobody

(36:13):
else understood, right, and I was shamed for it, and
I was like, but I don't I don't know, like
I don't even know what's going on with myself, like,
and trying to have someone tell me or trying to
have someone teach me was not there. So I had
to do it on my own in secrecy, you know.
And I think that when people come to me and
they're like, oh, witchcraft is bad, and I'm like, well,

(36:38):
in a Catholic church, right, you are using like you
are smudging the church. You have smoke that smudges the
church and clears out any negative energy. You're blessed with
holy water. Right, These are all the same. They're all
spells in a way, Like how I would bless myself
with moonwater, you bless yourself with holy water. You know
how I would bless myself with Florida water. It's the same.

(36:59):
It's the same how I would cleanse myself with smoke.
You cleanse yourself with smoke. You eat the the what
is it, the the flesh like of Jesus Christ, you know,
the the and then you drink of his his blood.
You know. That is to me a ritual. You know
where you practice or where you celebrate Christmas? I celebrate

(37:19):
you will. It's like it's different. We have the same traditions.
There's just it's just looked differently, yea where like differently? Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
And I think that another big thing is like they
teach you in religion, They're like, you have to fear
these demons, like these demons are coming up, the devil
blah blah blah blah blah. I think that you're already
in system is a representation of God and the devil
raging inside of you. So to me, you are God

(37:54):
and you are the devil. I know that seems like
really crazy to understand, but like to me, I think
that the devil is a social construct. I know that
it's very controversial, but they needed somebody to blame, right,
So if you look, if you like, take a look
at the meanings of what demons truly are, like if

(38:18):
you if you look in the Bible in different different
representations of what demons actually are. It's your low vibrational
meridian system. It's it's how you indulge in alcohol. It's
how you indulge in drugs. It's how you indulge in sex.
It's how you how you indulge in anger, how you

(38:39):
how you put forth fear, how you put forth worry.
It's how It's how you present yourself and how how
deep you go within your own darkness and your own shadows.
And I think that a big thing because with the
Church was something that I never really understood or kind
of could you know, gone for myself as a lesson,

(39:02):
was that how do I put this? Oh my gosh,
I'm trying to keep it so simple. It's like I'm
trying to keep it down for the viewers. I don't
want to get you guys in trouble because I you know,
but I could not grasp that like you should seek

(39:26):
no further than Jesus Christ. I think that if people
were to actually read their Bibles and dive deeper there's
eighteen years of Jesus's life that is missing. And Jesus
was a prophet, and he like when he said I
am the Way, I am the Truth, I am the Light.
He was talking about how not how we should follow him,

(39:46):
but how we should be more like him, because he
was an absolutely incredible person. He was deeply spiritual. He
wouldn't have been able to exude and do all of
the things that he did if he didn't dive deep
within himself to be able to understand himself better to
understand others. And I think that's something that religion kind

(40:06):
of keeps you from. They keep you in a level
of fear. And it is not up to me to
persuade anybody in this lifetime to not fear what I
do or what I am, because they will fear what
they don't understand. And I think that if they were
to come to me and be like, witchcraft is bad,
I don't like I get that a lot. Oh yeah,

(40:29):
comments on Instagram, comments on TikTok, it's wild, They'll be like,
come to Jesus. And I was like, I already have.
We've been buds. We're still buds. It's cool, but it's
just I don't view religion as a safe place. I
view like, to me, God is everything and in everyone,

(40:52):
you know, and it's not some guy sitting up on
a giant chair in heaven like with a staff. I
think that it's like there, it's in every single person
you meet. You know, there's lessons everywhere, and he's teaching
them and and it's up to other people whether they

(41:12):
want to indulge and learn those lessons themselves, you know.
And I think that something else that's in these sessions
is that you cannot awaken everybody. You cannot heal everybody.
And that is something that is It was definitely something
that was hard to ingest for or digest, you know,
at first, but you get to a point in spirituality

(41:32):
where you understand that, like, you're not going to lead
people to awaken themselves, they have to do it themselves.
And usually it's something big happens, and then they go
and through this whole spiritual journey. And I have people
that are on their journey that come to me like
I'm going through this and mind you, I'm still learning,

(41:54):
I'm still growing myself. I've just been through a whole
shit ton of hell in my life to be able
to have this knowledge and wisdom, you know what I'm saying.
So like if they're scared, if they're fearful of it,
it's because they fear themselves.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I was gonna say, there's probably some some healing ceremonies
that you have I would assume are easier than others.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yes, does the process ever stop at before needle to
skin it? Like they just either they're rejectful or like
have you been like this is almost too too? Like
far past how I can help you? Has that ever happened?

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well? I I think fear is taught. So when it
comes down to dealing with somebody that is going through
something that is very dark, I don't fear that. I
think that there are ways of dealing with darkness that

(42:57):
most people don't understand, but you have to learn it.
You have to comfortable one with your own darkness. You
have to be comfortable. And I'm a Scorpio, so like
I'm comfortable with everybody's darkness. You can like I don't.
I don't do fucking small talk, like I'm not going
to talk to you about the weather, Like I want
to know why your dad went to prison. I want
to know you know, you know what I mean, Like,
I'm going to die a lot deeper into these things

(43:19):
because that's just who I am. I'm comfortable with my
own shadows. I want to make sure that you send
love to yours. So I have had sessions with people
where it has become like a purge and they've gotten
sick and they haven't been able to go forward with it,
which is crazy because we'll be doing the energy work

(43:41):
and they'll get up and they'll be like, I need
to throw up. And it's the same as if you
would be in a nyahuasca ceremony. The energy just you know,
So it's it's definitely dependent on what you are going
through and if you are able to take it. So
I've only had one person refuse the tattoo, but I

(44:03):
have had multiple people perch and I think that that's beautiful.
Like I'm sitting there like a mom, like okay, let's
get it out, like come on, it's fine. But if
they're feeling up to it, they get right back on
the table, and if not, they go home and schedule.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
The person that refused the tattoo was that because they
didn't like the tattoo or because they just like I.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Think a little bit of both, a little bit of everything. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean that's why it takes a level of surrender
to come see me and I listen, your body autonomy
is yours. If you refuse the tattoo, cool. I'm not
going to make you pay for the tattoo. I'll make
you pay for the reki and shog balancing, but that
is up to you. And I think that one I'm

(44:52):
gonna sit there and actually be proud of you if
you were to tell me no, that you don't like it,
and if we can change things around and you're open
to it, that's fine. But if that this one particular
person was like I, I don't feel like I'm ready
to get the tattoo today. I did not connect like
she didn't connect with the tattoo, And that's perfectly fine.
I was actually extremely proud that she was open and

(45:15):
was honest with me. And that is that is going
to be at the forefront every single time. You know, like,
I want you to speak up for yourself. That's one
thing that I've advocated for in tattoo culture forever, like,
speak up. This is on your body forever, not mine.
You know what, I mean, so like if you want
to move it, you want to get rid of it,
you don't want to do it, I don't care, Like

(45:36):
I want you to be happy. My thing is like
I would want, like say, if my daughter was going
and getting tattooed, I would want their tattoo artists to
like treat them as how I would want to treat
my clients, you know. So it's it's definitely wild. But

(45:59):
I would never try to push somebody into something they
wouldn't want to do, you know, And sometimes they can.
They can either be fearful of it, they don't they
don't connect with it the way that I would have
hoped for, And that's you know, it's not for me
to decide.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah, one thing I would love to get into, and
we talked about a little bit this before the podcast.
You're first and foremost insanely knowledgeable about this, and its
just it kind of blows my mind the thought process
and everything that comes in to doing this and creating
this and all that you've had to learn to make

(46:33):
this happen. But I would I would love to hear
a little bit about you know, your story up to
you know where you are today. So obviously you had to.
This is not something you just learned overnight, like, this
has been an entire process. You mentioned at age twenty three,

(46:54):
you kind of had this like spiritual like and you know, enlightenment,
eye opening, however you want to say it.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeh.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Talk to us a little bit about you know, your
childhood growing up and I guess that what started to
lead you, you know, in this direction.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Interesting. I am the product of a single mother. Okay, uh,
I can. She's brilliant. My mom is an absolutely incredibly
strong individual. She's been through a lot in her life.
But my dad was a singer, songwriter, producer. He traveled

(47:31):
the world like he was gone throughout my whole entire life.
But my mom did it all by herself.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
And my were your mom and dad married or no?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Okay, they never got married. My dad actually cheated on
her with like it was just a horrible, horrible experience
between the two of them. My dad, he was hear
me out. My dad wanted to be a really good guy.
He was very heavily into spirituality, just like I am.

(48:04):
But he refused to do the shadow work right. He
refused to do the inner work and to see that
level of darkness that was lying underneath or take accountability.
Nothing on him. It was just a part of himself
that he couldn't face. And that's not his fault, you know.
Like you have to view everybody as if they're like
a little kid, you know. So it's like you're looking

(48:25):
at like, say, like if you did something wrong, I'd
look at you like a six year old. And where
come from? You know what I mean, Because that's where
it all stems from. So it stems from his childhood
that he was emotionally unavailable it so that showed through
throughout my entire life. There was like a very heavy
battle daddy issues to the fucking max, Like, Oh.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
There are some of these women out here.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I'm like, oh lord, no, don't I know it. I
think that actually that is a big part of the
fucking masks that I wore for a very long time.
You know. I claimed it, you know, and I feel
like you got to. I feel like every fucking woman
has daddy issues, especially with the way that men were
not necessarily taught how to father up until our generation. Yeah,

(49:14):
you know what I mean, Like they are really good fathers,
but they didn't have any of the tools or any
of the books or any of the knowledge that we
do now as individuals to be able to cater to
our children, to like break these generational cycles, curses, whatever
it may be. Right, So daddy issues to the max.
For sure. Did not have a good, solid relationship with

(49:36):
my father, and that showed up so much in my life,
so much in my life where that was something that
I very heavily had to overcome. Still dealing with it
till this day, you know, and there are little things,
but it's a lot easier to work through now, especially
taking accountability for it and noticing the patterns and the cycles,
and especially trying to like coming from that stock, trying

(50:00):
to change that narrative, you know what I mean, especially
with my own child, like just not repeating the same
patterns that he did and I already did well also,
like my dad just there wasn't a lot of good

(50:21):
family dynamics that I was personally aware of. You know,
there were a lot of things that went on in
his childhood that just showed him how he needed to be.
Not any and no, no like shade on my family
or or whatever, because they're all incredible human beings. But
obviously we all go through struggles we all go through stress.
And you know, he grew up like a young black

(50:42):
man in Chicago and it just was not it was
not how he needed to grow up. He got thrust
into the music industry at a very young age and
was performing, was signed to like Quincy Jones's label. I
think at age fourteen. From what I've heard, you know,
like I don't really know. I feel like I learned

(51:03):
more about my dad after he died at age twenty three.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
I was about to ask if you're in communication with
your father.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
But I'm a part of the Dead Dad Club, very
very very It is a very It's an elite club.
You know. It's funny. Me and my assistant, we joke
about that all the time because both of our dads
are dead, so it's literally dead Dad Club. But he
passed when I was twenty three. I hadn't spoken to

(51:36):
him for about three months, and he was sick. So
he got sick. I heard that he got sick at
around age nineteen. He came down with congestive heart failure.
The congestive heart failure took over his whole body, where
like he started having like narcoleptic fits where he would

(51:58):
fall asleep while he was sitting up, couldn't sleep properly,
all of these different things. And my dad, Like how
I talk about how emotions are stored in the body,
let me tell you how watching my dad's decline showed
me his stock emotions in his body, how it affected

(52:21):
his health, because that's what it does. So like say,
like you don't allow yourself to speak from the heart,
you don't allow yourself to share your feelings. You suppress it.
And that's like a big thing that like I try
to teach, especially with like my male friends. I'm always like,
please share, please, please open up, please please communicate because.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
It's many men actually.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Won't it manifest.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Heart problems, heart attack, congestive heart failure.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Stress, anxiety like that stuff like this stress.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, it's it's literally very heavy strokes, especially because it's
like all suppressed. It's like, oh with a lot of
women especially too, Like if trauma is held in your hips, Okay,
so if you go through a lot of yeah, yeah,
that's how you got to stretch your hips out. You
have to. It's like a level of somatic healing that

(53:22):
you need to put yourself in where you are doing
heart openers like solar plexus openers, sacral opener, you know
what I mean. There's different terms for it. I'm blanking
on it right now. But you to open your hips
is to open trauma. So like allowing yourself to sit

(53:45):
in hip openers, like you can lay on the floor,
put your feet together and like open your knees. You
put like your left hand over your heart, your right
hand over your solar plexus, and you kind of just
breathe into that space. You'll watch your knees start to twitch,
and that's energy leaving your It's the same thing that
happens in reiki, but that's trauma that's stored in your body.
That's why they tell you to journal, That's why they
tell you to like stretch your hips. It's all in

(54:07):
your hips. So if your hips are cracking and you're
waking up, it's because there are things that haven't been
dealt with. Right. So, my dad had a ton of trauma,
a ton of trauma, which man, I was so angry
with him, like infuriated, angry with him until after he

(54:29):
died because I started getting to know him and I
started getting to know what he went through, and then
I became an adult, you know, to me, I wasn't
an adult until my frontal lobe fully developed, like I
hit twenty five, and then I was like, oh, okay,
I fucking get it now, like you know, like wow.
And as soon as I hit that age and I
was going through all these spiritual awakenings and all of

(54:52):
these different things, I didn't understand what he went through
and how how he felt and all of the things
that he went through to be as emotionally unavailable as
he was or as avoidant as he was. And I
think that sparked something in me. It sparked my own

(55:15):
my own level of healing. And I mean, like I
definitely was interested in it. I've always been interested in
the occult, Like Charmed. I was like watching it in
my bedroom as a kid, with like the blanket over
my head and the remote in my hand, ready to
turn it off if my mom walked in, because that
was like a big no no, like we weren't I
wasn't even allowed to read fucking Harry Potter, and I

(55:35):
would like watch it at my friend's out like my
and my dad was very heavily into spirituality, and my
mom was very heavy heavily Christian, and that was a
big thing that they did not they clashed over. My
dad was super into witchcraft, into tarot and to like
you know, was in China and he or in China
and in Japan, and he came back and he's like,
I'm a Buddhist and I'm like, no, you're fucking not.

(55:56):
Like you're just really into the culture and it strikes
something in you. Right. Who knows if he lived a
past life or whatever, but like he just was trying
to find himself his whole life, and in trying to
find yourself, there's a balance in it, right. So you
have a level of spiritual awakening that you get into,
and the spiritual awakening hits you and everything seems exciting. Okay,

(56:19):
so you are into crystals. Suddenly you're into like learning
more and expanding your your wisdom and knowledge and your
like your subconscious mind and you want to learn about
all of this different shit and you want to be
able to talk about it and connect with people, and
like it's there's so much that happens when you go

(56:40):
through your first spiritual awakening. Everything is so exciting, right,
and then it becomes stagnant, like just completely like stops.
You hit a brick wall, right, and it's because you've
been existing in love and light throughout this You're like,
oh my gosh, like I have to be so positive.
Everything has to be good. I'm manifesting. This is beautiful,

(57:02):
this is that. But what a lot of people don't
understand when they go through their first level of spiritual
awakening is the fact that they're going to hit a
level of stagnation that's going to stop them right in
their tracks because and it's not gonna feel fun anymore.
Everything's gonna feel really hard, and it's gonna feel really painful,
and you're gonna start going deeper and darker, like like

(57:24):
you literally the second that you hit stagnation. It's because
the universe is like, okay, time to go a little
bit deeper, Time to stop existing in this level of
like love and light. Guess what, You fucking burned out
because you lit that candle for too fucking long. And
it's it's an extremely intense feeling because like spiritual awakenings

(57:46):
are exciting, You're like, I'm gonna go du ayahuasca and
the fucking rainforest and I'm gonna come back and everything's
gonna be fine, and I'm gonna move through so much
and purge through so much, which like that's great and all,
but sometimes it's it's not and it can be very
heavy if you're not ready to deal with it. I
don't think my dad was ready to deal with it,

(58:06):
and that got passed on to me, you know, so
I have Yeah, oh yeah, I what you what your
parents didn't heal? You take on? You take on. So
it's like and your parents are an exact mirror of
who you are, right, so, like what you don't like
in them, it's what you don't like in yourself, so

(58:28):
they trigger you to recognize it. I know, it's fucked up.
It's like it's.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Literally one of like, yeah, it's very it's very difficult
because you sit back and you and you see these people,
especially when you become an adult, you see these people
that you've idolized or.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Like longed for their love for so long, and then
you get older and you go through the same adult
struggles and the same adult problems, and you recognize and
realize that they're just humans trying to do it for
their first time too. They're trying to deal like with
life for their first time around in this body. You know,

(59:05):
and they're trying to get it right and trying to
go through everything the best that they can. And it's
not necessarily an excuse because there are people that do
really fucked up shit, so like obviously like they're the exception,
but for people that are especially with like my own father,
because he's ext he was extremely well known in the

(59:26):
music industry, like produced a first Grand Master Flash album,
like produced Chaka Khan and Rufus, worked with Mariah Carey,
like all these different people and was extremely successful. But
I think that there was a level of ego that
he could not let go of, and so that level

(59:48):
of healing transcended down to me. So what he couldn't
heal because he was stuck in a level of love
and light, I had to take over, right. So he
died when I was twenty three years old. Mind you,
I had just moved to the Pacific Northwest. It was
a very interesting time in my life. I was, I

(01:00:10):
want to say, almost three years into tattooing. Oh my gosh,
I think, maybe, jeez, I can't do the math. That's
why I'm an artist. But I put five different names
of five different places into a hat, and I picked
one and I definitely at that point in time is

(01:00:33):
what I would call now like a runner, right. But
I don't look at like that that term runner as
something that's bad because I was definitely running from experiences
that didn't vibrationally align with my energy and I just
felt like I needed to get out of them. But
I never was taught to sit and deal, you know,
Like I was like if something happened when I was younger,

(01:00:54):
me and my mom would like up and move to
a new place. It was always something new. It was
always a new opportunity. So it was like ever actually
sitting and having to just fix you know. There was
there was There was stability, but there wasn't like the
traditional like American dreams stability, you know what I mean.

(01:01:15):
Like I went to so many different schools I went to.
There was so much turmoil, There were so many different
There was just a lot of different facets that were moving.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
And just like how you said.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
All right, quick intermission, but real question, are we getting
pizza or.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Yeah? Sorry guys, we had to focus on priority to
get the pizza order ready aka Little Caesars. Little Caesars
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Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Ready? Is that? Wait? No, that's not a thing anymore
hot the five dollars hot and ready.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Unfortunately, unfortunately not no way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Pretty quick after they stopped doing the fight dollar full
on the subway.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Yeah, there was some they stopped doing the five dollars
foot long. I mean, I haven't eaten a five dollars
foot long from subway in a very long time. But
like I didn't think that that would ever go away
because it used to me too. Saturday for all of us, say,
I'm very big on that, like if I door dash food,
like I will door dash food for my client, Like
I'm not going to sit there and like eat in

(01:02:21):
front of them. Yeah, like we're gonna get some real tacos.
You want some tiquitos as well, But absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
I get so hungry when I'm getting tattooed as well.
I don't know, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
And doorphins and your body kind of working on overtime.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
So like I'm just like, see I'm the opposite.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I'm like I'm completely drained. Yeah, because like eat before
him usually, Yeah, because I have a I don't want
to say a fear like I don't want to be that
guy that passes out Like that day I was ripping
zins and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Like I had a coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I can never come back in here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I that's so many I've had so many men in
particular pass out me. Oh yeah. When I think that,
like the ratio from men to women passing out like them,
men have definitely kind of surpassed the women on that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
You know, my biggest scare is is getting getting tattooed
and falling asleep, and like sometimes I do like the
jerk things. Yeah, yeah, So what I'm what I'm nervous
about is Mark. Mark's gonna be like, you know, doing
some real detailed ship and and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Then he just I think that a lot of us
are trained to do that. Like, I feel like it's
so interesting when tattoo artists, Like no shade to any
tattoo artists, but like if a tattoo artist gets upset
about twitching, that trips me out, because I like that's
literally a body's natural reaction. If you're like, if you
came in, you got tattooed by me, and you fell asleep,

(01:03:49):
I'd be like, Evan, what are what are we going through?
What's going on the need to talk about it, like
I would, I would probably be like psychoanalyzing it, but
it would also I would be able to kind of
prepare for those movements to happen, because like and notably,
I would hope that you fell asleep. I would hope
that it like felt like you could just kind of

(01:04:13):
relax and do that. You know, it's not the case
for everybody, but I have a lot of girls that
come in and they're just like just done, you know,
And like like my husband, he he does not feel pain.
He'll he'll fall asleep himself, but he'll do the twitch
you if you twitch, that's just yeah, I feel like

(01:04:35):
everybody is a way. I don't know, but I feel
like your tattooers should be kind of like prepared for that,
especially if you're falling asleep, unless they're not paying attention
to you, Like if there if you guys have just
fallen into a vibe and like you fell asleep, and
like Mark wouldn't know that you fell asleep and you
just switched and you moved, Like that's a different story,
you know. But like I feel like it's your job

(01:04:58):
to like kind of check in and be like you
do it okay. If you don't respond, I'm my first
instinct is gonna be like did they fucking pass out?

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Or like yeah yeah your nose, like are you fucking breathing?
Like what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
When I was getting tattooed on Mark, there was a
guy that was getting tattooed by that guy I forget
his name, Jared. He he left and he came back
and he got tattooed by by Brandon and he just
kind of got up on the bed and he like
his head was towards me, like we're both like facing
this way yea, and Brandon was talking to him, but
when he get started, he didn't say anything, but like
I saw he was asleep well, and then like the

(01:05:31):
was like kind of like hit his back, like hey dude,
and then he didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Move and I was like, oh shit. He got up
and kind of shook him and he was like, my bad, bir.
I was already asleep, and he's like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
No, I just was, but it was like I saw
the panic on him. I was like, dude, that's terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It's it's honestly terrifying, because you don't want anybody to
go through that level of trauma when they're getting tattooed.
But it's like if you don't eat a balanced meal,
you don't bring snacks, you don't bring electrolytes like I have,
Like those what are those electrolyte drinks? Oh kind of
like that. No, prime is so owned, sorry, ime is

(01:06:07):
so bad for you. They probably taste great, but oh
my gosh, so much I could. I'm such a crunchy mom.
Like I know that I like capricorn outside, but I'm
definitely like I I can talk to you about chemtrails,

(01:06:30):
I can talk to you about food. I can talk
to you about natural natural remedies, like instead of medicine,
I can give you tinctures that's actually tease like all
of the best.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Yeah, that's actually maybe a good topic here. So you know,
you're obviously all about all these different aspects of healing.
I assume you're pretty like conscious of like what you
eat and consume and like what you like put into
your body.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
As well, all organic unless it's a little season.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I was just gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Say, everything's okay in moderation. Yeah, I think suppression is
one of the worst things that you could do to yourself. Like, yeah,
obviously you want to eat healthy, but if that one
percent is there where you're kind of like, I'm gonna
eat like shit today, I think that you should give
your body what it's wanting, even though there are certain

(01:07:22):
cravings that pertain to other things. I think that you
should allow yourself to indulge every now and again.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
That's actually my favorite thing about eating healthy is when
after you start eating healthy for such a long time,
although you still have cravings, you break every once in
a while, have that pizza, have that like shitty food,
But then you have such like I call it like
food remorse ye, where it's like after you eat it,
you're like, I don't even like this, Like god damn it,

(01:07:49):
Like yeah, it tasted good for like thirty seconds, but
now I gotta like shit my pants.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Oh right. It's literally that instant gratification where you're, damn,
this tastes so good, and then later you're suffering.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
That's food is such instant gratification if you really think
about it, Like half the shit that we eat and
we consume, it's like how many how many high chews
did we just consume?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Oh my gosh, I don't want to talk about it.
It's I think that it's like sugar, especially with like
what we were talking about with like energy and stuff
like that, where emotions are stored in the body. So
like there if you're with your solar plexus and like
with your heart, there are ways where you're like if

(01:08:34):
your meridian system is unbalanced, it will show up in
the cravings that you have and your relationships with food.
So it's really wild how and especially with each chakra point,
how that will show up for you and what you're
craving and what you're you're needing. Right, So, like if
you're having trouble with your throat chakra, like if you're

(01:08:54):
having trouble like communicating or talking or like you're suppressing
what you're you're needing to open up about, you're going
to want to drink a lot of really ice cold
beverages to kind of like chill that heat that's coming up. Right,
It's so weird, Like you'll be like, oh, I want
I want an icy I want like you know, ice cream,
I want you know, like an ice coffee. You'll just

(01:09:15):
try to like that. I feel like that's that was
me for a very long time. Like I was definitely
like I'm not that girl, that's going to be like, Oh,
I want food or I want a sweet treat. I'm like,
I want myself a little drinking drink, like it's you
know what I mean, Like like a Slurpee. That was
my pregnancy craving. Like that was, Yeah, I wanted a
coke Slurpy. It was just one because no caffeine. But like,

(01:09:39):
I became more conscious of the food that I put
into my body after I became a mother, also because
I struggled with the fear with like my husband, like
poor guy, I regulate what he eats if I find
out something has been like banned or something like it's

(01:09:59):
out of it house, and like this poor guy has
to struggle through so much just because I'm like, you
can't fucking eat that anymore. He's just over here in
the corner like yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Like all the all like the red dye stuff that's
going on right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yeah, well he's allergic. My husband's allergic to red dye.
But everybody is allergic to red dye. Every single person
on the planet. You are allergic two dyes. It is
not something that should be put into your body. That
is something that I could talk about forever, especially where
the dyes come from, Like what red? It comes from?
A fucking beetle, like carmine, so gross, like a crushed

(01:10:33):
up be Like that's what you're ingesting, like you're drinking
like some some fruit punch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Those hot Cheetos are so good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Okay, the Trader Joe's has a much better version, sorry,
hot Cheetos, a much better version that's made with turmeric
and chili lime powder. Yeah, it tastes the exact same,
a little bit more of like a lime zuest to it,
but it is so good. Yeah, I'd rather have that

(01:11:02):
than the alternative, you know, plus I had I don't know.
So me and my best friends we do this thing
because like I'm not big on sleepovers with my daughter
with her friends and stuff like that. So like me
and my friends, because she's been raised around adults her
whole entire life, we have big slumber parties together where
we like we get wigs, we set up for like

(01:11:23):
a part there's disco balls, there's lights, whatever it is,
so she can kind of experience that. And like we
watch like all of the great movies or whatever, but
we load up on really shitty snacks for the night.
Like that's like my adultance when all of the girls
get together, right, so we'll do like cheeseboards, but like
we'll do like the sweet board and the cheeseboard, and

(01:11:43):
then we'll get like derritos and all these different things.
And this last time that we got them, I got
like the extra flaming hot Cheetos and I didn't realize
that they were extra, And like, mind you, Like I
can take spicy foods. I ate it different, they're different,
Like what are they doing? What is in that? That's

(01:12:03):
like a chemical burn? Like that fucked me up? Yes,
And I think that's that's the big question, Like what
is this? You know what I mean? Like what is
actually in the foods that we're eating and ingesting? And
like how does it tear up our system? Mind you?
Another thing, especially with energetic healing, I pray over my

(01:12:26):
food before I eat it. I do like a little
quick raiki over my food because you don't know who's
preparing it, right, So you don't know what energy is
being made or put into that food and that food
is being made with. Right. So say like a cook
is having like a really fucked up day and they're cooking,

(01:12:46):
but then they're putting their heart into it, but they're
putting their anger into it as they're cooking. All that
energy is going into your food. So then you are
then ingesting that energy that they put into that food.
And that's another big reason why you feel like shit
after you eat something that's unhealthy, or why you eat
something why Yeah, sorry, that's like, but it's true. It's like,

(01:13:14):
I mean, we're all going through things, you know, but
you want to make sure that like you do a
little quick blessing over your food. That's another symbol of prayer.
That's why you pray over your food and you're like,
let it be a nourishment to our bodies, like we
have gratitude for this food. And then you like you're
praying over it. It's the same as you energetically cleansing it
before you eat it. Because that shit is it's wild,
Like what do you You don't know where it's coming from,

(01:13:35):
you don't know what it's made with, you don't know,
Like especially, I could talk about seed oils all day.
You got me started on a topic that I will
not shut up about. I'm so sorry it is that
is something that like plagues me, Like I swear it's wild,
like how breads are made, how they're died. Like I
am a big person. I shop at Whole Foods, I
shop at Trader Joe's. I think that if you want

(01:13:59):
to eat healthy, you should budget to eat healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Obviously it's it is scary how expensive health healthy food is. Yeah,
and that's why America is fat, especially.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
But especially for a family. I think that it's not
even the fact that it's it's why like America is fat.
I think it's because one, we're not properly taught. Like, so,
men and women, okay they are. They're both on different cycles. Men,
you guys are on a twenty four hour cycle, right,

(01:14:33):
your body regenerates itself every twenty four hours. Women are
on a four week cycle. Did you guys know that? Okay,
we have four different cycles. I'm gonna give you some
fucking knowledge real quick, especially because you both have women,
so like this is going to help you. Okay, they
are on a four week we jotted down right, four

(01:14:56):
week cycle. You are on your you get you have
your menstrual phase obviously, like your period. Okay, we're all
grown adults. The shark week exactly, you know the scariest
time is the Lutell phase. It's right before shark week,
and so women get extremely pissed off at their men
in their Lutell phase. My poor husband again get extremely

(01:15:19):
pissed off at their women or at their men in
Lutell phase because you didn't get them pregnant. So their
body is like rejecting you. They're angry, like they're there.
Their brain goes, you didn't do what you were supposed
to do. I'm now upset with you. It's so fucked up.
It's very it's very real.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
So that's why you got cut off.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
But on their period, it's it's crazy because we're depleted
and we're taking in a lot of different energy and
like it's because women are just energetic sponges. So like
on a period, obviously why we're more irritable and stuff
like that is because it's not just that we are
taking on our own shit and our own pain and

(01:16:02):
our own what we're doing. We bleed for seven days
and don't die, Like that's fucking stupid in my opinion,
you know, but in reality, like we're taking on everybody's energy. Right,
So you have your lutele phase, which we're angry at you.
That's the phase that you need to be the most
scared of. I would say, like, mark that shit on
your calendar, get a period tracker, make sure that you

(01:16:23):
figure that out, because that's when you need to be
the nicest. The period, like the period, and then you
have the folic or what is it, yeah, follicular phase,
and then you have ovulation. So we have four weeks
out of the month, three of them which we are
fucking psychotic. We get one break, right, we get one
time where we're feeling our best, doing our best. We
can hit the gym the hardest, we're at our most creative,

(01:16:46):
at our most like just our networking phase where we
can talk to people whatever it is. Right, So we
have four specific phases and it goes with the moon crazy,
but our body, we should be taught how to attune
what we eat to our phases of every week. So

(01:17:10):
like you would eat differently for your follicular phase than
you would your louteal phase, you would eat differently for
your men'st phase than you would for your ovulation phase.
And women are not taught that because most medical studies
are all just done on men.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Yeah you know, yeah, so I got I got a
something that just popped in my head. So we've talked
a lot about, you know, the different I guess witchcraft,
the you know, reiche healing, all these different I guess
practices you know that you do. Is there an alignment
with those with astrology signs, because I know, like that's

(01:17:51):
a that's a whole nother topic. Like I've met a
lot of people that are like crazy about like signs
and understanding you know, your Earth sign, your water sign,
you know, like, and I'll be honest, I've actually got
into it a little bit, like you know, learning, like
you know, learning more, not not into it. But I

(01:18:12):
when I when I read my sign and sometimes look
into this stuff, I'm like, oh, like that makes sense,
you know, like that's like I guess I am kind
of like that so I do understand it. Shut the
fuck up. This guy's like laugh at his ass.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
I wouldn't say I'm getting in okay, let me just
like like like I'm just it's I guess. I think
for the first time it kind of clicked for me,
you know, like when when I'm told like, oh, so
I'm a Taurus, so I'm fucking bull I'm like you know,
there's like this whole stubborn this this this whole like

(01:18:48):
you know, stubborn side of me. What's so funny? Bro Okay,
So anyway, I guess I guess to let me let
me get back to it here. So based on your
line of work and everything that you do, mixing with
the astrology stuff, like what is the correlation between that,

(01:19:11):
Like is there a correlation or is that a whole
separate Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
No, honestly, well, astrology plays a huge role in everything.
Billionaires have astrologers for specific reason, Like you know what
I mean, the universe and the planets are going to
affect everybody differently, so there are different planetary alignments. Like
there's so many going on right now. You know, Saturn

(01:19:37):
just centered areas. A lot of people are starting their
Saturn return, especially if you're in the ages of twenty
seven to thirty. So if there are people that are
coming to see me in that specific time frame, you know,
like in between those ages, they're going through a lot,
they're shedding things. Karma is like daddy Karma is coming
in envy and like, you know, I'm gonna shit on
your whole entire life right now until you learn that
you have to grow up. Twenty seven to thirty is

(01:19:58):
a very hard age, you know, I think feel like
I see a lot of people in that time frame.
But astrology plays a huge role. All of the transits
play a huge role in what is going on in
people's lives. You know. I think that astrology can tell
you how to invest money, when to invest money. It

(01:20:20):
can tell you when you are going to be angry,
you know, when you are going to be like how
your emotions are going to deal with things, how you
should approach certain people, how you should practice patients. Like
there are different transits that are going on right now
where I literally am like I should lock myself in
a room, you know. Like it's like when people joke

(01:20:40):
about like mercury in retrograde, you know, like obviously you'll
probably hear, like your women be like, oh yeah, mercury
is in retrograde in the microwave, you know, and it's
fucking it's real. Like it starts to spend backwards and
communication is off, travel is off, like money is off,
things in your career off. Like it's it's crazy. How

(01:21:01):
like these transits in these planets spinning forward and backward
affect you. You know. So, yes, astrology does play a
huge role in how people come in and like what
they're feeling at that moment in time, what they're going through,
what they're learning, how they're they're trying to figure themselves out,
and how they're trying to grow. It does play a lot,

(01:21:24):
especially with your your cycle, the four week cycle as
well for women. That is something that's really incredible to
think about because obviously, like the moon, the women, like
the cycles are you know, you guys are with the sun.
That's why it's the masculine and the feminine side. We're
ruled by the moon. You guys are ruled by the sun.
It's really fucking cool because the Sun is twenty four

(01:21:44):
hour period. The moon is a four week or a
four week cycle, a twenty eight day cycle, you know.
So it's just everything is ruled by the planet. Yes, everything.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
I have another question and it's a little off topic,
but it just I'm like, you got my head thinking here. Yeah, so,
you know, in in your line of work, just having
you know, this this mindset, this thought process, your your
way of being able to connect with people, read people.

(01:22:16):
How would you say that transfers into like your relationship
or like being a mother. I think I think it's
really it's really interesting when you have a way of
just like looking at life and being able to read
I guess people, that's got to make an interesting dynamic

(01:22:37):
for like even just like your household and you're obviously
your your husband just came here, so he's probably gonna
hear this. It's got to be interesting. Like do you
do you feel like your relationship is a lot different
with your like level of knowledge that you have today
as it would be if it was ten years ago,
with you just maybe being not a far along in

(01:23:01):
this journey you're in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I you know what, Yes and no? Okay, So I
think that especially when it comes down to my relationship Wade. Okay,
so back to astrology, right, So Wade, I'm gonna go
through his whole birth chart real quick. He is a Gemini, okay,
and I'm a Scorpio. Immediately obviously we're besties, but we

(01:23:27):
also clash, right, So with a Gemini and a Scorpio,
there has to be a lot of communication. There has
to be a lot of talking things through and recognizing
certain patterns and changing them and being very adult about
how you speak to each other. We work on that
a lot. We work on our communication very heavily, and
especially as a Gemini, the gift of fucking gab both

(01:23:50):
of us, we can talk all day, right, And as
somebody who wants to get deeper and like into somebody's shadows,
that sometimes isn't very healthy for a man. And that's
something that I had to understand and talk about. That's
another thing, like, because being an intuitive being, somebody that

(01:24:11):
is more intuitively inclined to be able to read somebody's
energy like I used to, especially with my own patterns,
recognize things and listen. Empathy like or being an EmPATH, right,
I know, I'm I'm clear sentient. I think that EmPATH
is great, But EmPATH is like very small on the scale, right.

(01:24:34):
I don't want to say that it's not very small
on the scale, but it's definitely like a starting point
to opening yourself up to understanding and reading people's energy
and feeling people's energy to like at a physical level. Right,
So being clarcentient, which is a fucking massive level of empathy,

(01:24:59):
I'd be able to walk into a room or feel
my husband's energy before he got home, like I could
feel it if he's driving up the street, I like
we'll get like hairs will stand up on the back
of my neck and it'll be like, okay, like something's wrong.
Like I have to I'm bracing myself for him coming
home and feeling this way. Mind you, years ago, especially

(01:25:19):
in the beginning of our relationship. I think this ended
maybe about three years ago. There's still moments where I
have to like pull back. But obviously we're all learning.
It's like the more that you ask a man what's wrong,
m it's it's not always good for them, yep, okay. So,

(01:25:43):
like we want you to talk, like as women, we're nurturers.
We want you to open up. We want you to
to communicate with us. But a lot of men weren't
taught the proper way to communicate, right, And that's that's awful.
It's really fucking sad, you know. And like all you
can do, especially for your men, is to find a
way to hold space for them on a level of

(01:26:05):
meeting them where they are. So it has been talked
about scientifically that men actually have a hard time and
it creates higher stress levels if they communicate their feelings.
So like if they're actually like actively talking about their

(01:26:25):
feelings before they're ready, or they're feeling pressured, like their
woman is like, what's wrong. I can send something's wrong,
like what's going on? Please tell me? And then it
like they feel like kind of pressed up against the wall.
It creates stress.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
A man's gonna talk when he wants to.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Yes, I would rather be like, Hey, go out to
the garage, go work on something, go draw, go to
the gym, go do this, but like and come talk
to me when you're ready. Come talk to me when
you're ready, because I think that leaving that space open
for them is especially for your man, is like so

(01:27:00):
important because they're gonna come talk to you and open
up to you when they are ready. Yeah, but if
you push them, it actually raises their cortisol. So like
that's something that's super wild as well. You know, it
raises your stress levels because you guys are more physical
where we're able to talk, like we're the matriarchs. We
we like from the beginning of time, we built community.

(01:27:22):
We fucking became the nurses, We became the like we
birthed babies, We learned how to talk to different communities.
Men went out and they hunted and they protected. They
weren't taught how to communicate, Like it's something that has
dated back to the beginning of fucking time.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
When I think communication, it's got to be such a
generational thing. Yes, Like especially with like social media today,
there's like just you know, you go online, there's so
many clips and motivational like telling people how to act
and do shit today. Like that's I feel all what
social media is now. Yeah, it's but I think it's
definitely a generational thing. Like I look at, you know,

(01:28:03):
my grandparents and how different relationships were, Like I was
very close with my great grandma. I never have to
know my great great grandpa, but like my great grandma,
just like seeing how she was, and even like my grandparents,
how different their dynamic and relationship. And I grew up
in a broken household and my you know mom and dad,

(01:28:25):
there was shit was a little crazy. But then I
look at like relationships today, and relationships today are so
much different, like now it's it's really heavily promoted that
like it's like yo, like you have issues, like you
should talk about it, you should like communicate, And you know,

(01:28:45):
where I grew up, it was very old fashioned, where
like people never really got divorced. People never went separate ways.
Like people just were very old school with it. Was
it's like nobody talked. They didn't they they didn't talk,
they didn't communicate.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
And you know women.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Were like like I used I used to use the
word with it with my with my grandpa was he
was like ornery. He's just an ornery old man. Like
I'm like, god, bro, Like who's shipping your cheerios? Like
why are you so pissed off?

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Like you know, yeah, every time he stood up, his
hips cracked.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
And I think it goes back to before our high
break and you know, our camera guy, you know, messed up.
We had to take a break here were we were
talking about we were we were talking about your dad
and you know, just some of the stuff that he
was dealing with that you know, got carried on to you. Yeah,

(01:29:43):
I think it's it's just it's such an interesting dynamic
because what we truly go through in life, like is
who we you know, become and some of the stuff
your dad was dealing with obviously rubbed off on you.
And then yeah, as you know he passed and the
motions that you know, you you were attached to with
that that he wasn't dealing with and how it affected

(01:30:04):
your upbringing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
I one hundred percent have changed the way that I
view relationships, especially because my parents weren't together, so I
never had an actual true representation of what a healthy
relationship looks like. Okay, and that's not on my mom,
that's not on my dad. That's just like I watched
my friends' parents like have healthy relationships, and then as

(01:30:25):
I became an adult, their relationships weren't even that fucking healthy.
And so I think that obviously you have all of
the tools and the knowledge now to be able to
kind of adapt and learn each other and whatnot. But
like that that's also something that I implement, is like
all of the lessons that I learned from what my

(01:30:45):
parents went through, like trying to kind of reshape those
things and do better, be better and wanting to commit
Marriage is hard. Marriage is so hard, and I think
that that is something that a lot of people give
up them because they don't want to do the work.
And like, I get it. There are people that like

(01:31:07):
they fight constantly, especially if you have children, Like you
can fight in front of your children. But the thing
is it's like back in the day. Parents used to
hide shit from us or they didn't they fought right
in front of us and whatnot. It's fine, and mind you,
it's not about it's not about it. Your kids are
going to have to see conflict resolution. They're going to
see ten times worship out in public. Yes, okay, they

(01:31:28):
saw you fight, But did they see you come together
afterward and communicate properly and talk tenderly to each other
and fix it and and talk it out and show like, like,
did you show your children who you could be in
a moment of frustration where you needed to implement love

(01:31:49):
into the process, Because obviously we're all human, we all
get angry, right, and that is something that wade a night.
Like I think a lot of people like they idol
a relationship. Like if you look at any of like
the picture, like the comments on any of our pictures
and stuff like that, I think it's absolutely beautiful. But
they'll always be like, oh my god, my favorite couple
blah blah blahh. And I'm like, that's that's wonderful. But

(01:32:10):
you have no idea what we have gone through to
be here. You know what we have went through, Like
I I have been so angry at him. He's been
so angry at me, but that man has never raised
his voice to me once in my entire relationship. And
there was a part of me that I had to
deal with because I'm a scorpio and I needed a

(01:32:30):
reaction because my dad would give me the reaction. I'd
like go to him and be like, you hurt my
feelings and be like, don't fuck it, dreaming like it too.
You're like would get in my face about it, you know.
So I would expect the reaction and I would try
to eg get out of him. And that's something that
I had to come to terms with is that he
was my mirror, so him not responding in him just
being like yeah, like but he would like posture up

(01:32:51):
like obviously there was like a part of him, like
that old part of him where he's like, I'm not
gonna say anything because like my dad told me, you
don't say shit, didn't put on record, you know what
I mean. Like, but it's like hass like a super
old cholo, like yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
But what's what's so cool though, is you you have
learned from all those experiences, and you learn from your
father on and you learn from your family dynamic growing
up and you're making actual changes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Majority of people, unfortunately, they use their past and their
childhood trauma as an excuse. Like how many people today
are to have these toxic, shitty relationships And they're like, oh, well,
you know it's because I don't know any better. No,
like you, you have a We have all the tools
today available to be able to fix yourself on whatever

(01:33:45):
frickin' level you know that you have.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Well, you know, everybody who you meet is a mirror. Okay,
So like you are my mirror, you are my mirror,
I am yours, right, Like there are reasons why people
are vibrationally aligned and put together. Like, I don't believe
in twin flames. I do believe in soulmates. I do
believe that you are allowed to have more than one
soul man. I do believe that you are allowed to
connect with multiple souls. I do believe in karmic experiences.

(01:34:11):
I do believe in cosmic experiences, you know what I mean.
I think that they're there are people that come together
for a reason. I like to say a reason, a season,
or a lifetime. Right, As humans, we create attachments, okay,
And attachments make us feel safe, especially if there were
things that were lacking in our childhood. Right. So it's

(01:34:35):
like really intense and crazy to sit back and realize
that a majority of the time, people will keep certain
people around due to attachments. A lot of women with
daddy issues will wait for their man to be a
better man because they waited for their dad to be
a better man to them, right, and vice versa. Same

(01:34:57):
with men that have mommy and s they are waiting
for their women to be better to them. But also,
you will date a person that you are trying to heal, right,
or you're trying to heal a part of yourself within
another person. And that's something that's really really crazy. So, yes,
there are people that will not do the work, but
there are people that the universe is like, Okay, hey,

(01:35:19):
we're gonna repeat some patterns here. We're going to go
through these patterns to kind of make you realize it.
So you are dating your pattern. And that is something
that a lot of people don't understand is that if
they're dealing with the same thing over and over again
and they're getting upset about it and they're doing these things,
they're not the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
You are.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
You know what I'm saying. So it's like they are
the person that you are dating is not the problem.
You are the problem because you are repeating a pattern
by not breaking out of it, by trying to heal
whatever is inside of you from your childhood or whatever
you went through as a child, or whatever you did
not get and you're trying to seek it. Right. So, say,
like somebody is asking for an immense amount of love

(01:35:58):
from somebody else. What I always say My clients will
come in and they'll be like, I'm dating this person
and they're just not showing up for me the way
that I need them to show up, right. And I
sit back and I and I go, Okay, so you're
asking this person for love, right. You feel comfortable asking
them for love, but they're not giving you the love
because they're only capable of loving themselves at the mental

(01:36:21):
capacity or loving you at the mental capacity that they
love themselves. Okay, So what's really crazy is that I
ask them. I say, hey, if they're not able to
love you in the way that you want them to,
it's because you taught them how to love you. You

(01:36:41):
accept it a certain level of love, right, So you
not using, utilizing your throat shock or setting healthy boundaries,
being upfront with what you want, being upfront with your needs,
like setting the tone for what you need set you
up for failure because you want it to be loved
so deeply that you allowed that level of love in

(01:37:05):
and then you started recognizing your self worth and being like, no,
I'm leveling up. I want this, and I want this
and I want this, and then like majority of the time,
it only comes out and fights, like what you want
only comes out in arguments because you know. But I
asked my clients, I said, hey, I say, hey, with
a level of love that you are asking for, would

(01:37:27):
you give it to yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
Interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Would you give that love that you are asking for
to yourself? Would you like like you're asking to So
I think that that's something that people also need to
recognize in relationships. It's like, what is that book like Codependent?
No more, Like it's super old, right, but it has
some very like strong points in it. You know, you

(01:37:52):
cannot be co dependent on another person for the love
that you wouldn't even give yourself. You cannot ask for
that other person if you wouldn't even give it to yourself.
It's so it's like it's so silly, because like, if
you're not giving it to yourself, how are you gonna
know what that love looks like? How are you gonna
know what an extra amount of love looks like? You know?

(01:38:16):
So I think that that's something that needed to be
recognized in my relationship as well. So like I wasn't
as codependent on him to give me the love that
I didn't receive when I was a child, and vice versa,
because I am like I I'm like hot and cold,
I guess. So back to astrology real quick, him being

(01:38:36):
a Gemini, me being a Scorpio. I'm a Capricorn rising
with a Virgo moon. My chart is and I have
a Capricorn stellium in my first house. If you know
anything about birth charts, which you probably don't, it's okay,
but if you are looking into it, you should really
look into your birth chart, especially like women ask you
for your birth time because obviously they want to.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
Know more at six am.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Love that you know that that's exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Six right around there on May fourth, May fourth and
fourth be with me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
The fourth be with you, Jesus. I'm a star Wars baby,
my mom. That's funny. Both of my parents are tauruses
mid yoda?

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
Is you w I have a question when somebody like
somebody heard it, like they realize that what you're saying,
they're in their relationship of like that person not meeting
them like with the love that they're asking for. Is
it is it deemed like it's just done? Or like
can you teach that person? Like I guess how would

(01:39:34):
somebody navigate that? Wow? Do you feel like during that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
It takes two to tango? Yeah, okay, so one healthy communication,
but it can't be one sided. So the thing is
is that like what me and my husband we went
through is like I have like he has like avoidant
attachment where I have like like I'm very like I'm like, okay,

(01:40:01):
like i want this, Like I especially like my ADHD.
I'm like, I want you to be in the room
with me while I clean. I want you to help
me with this, Like I want to focus on what
you know. And it's I'm a lot more nitpicky, especially
with my Virgo moon and that's something that I have
had to recognize and come to terms with that I
just kind of analyze things to a level of perfection

(01:40:22):
because like what is it like the shadow side of
Virgo Moon is like if it's not perfect, it's nothing.
And that is something that I've had to struggle with
because it's it even relates to me, like if I'm
not perfect, I'm nothing, and that's something that I've had
to overcome with, like perfection. So that was that played
a big role in our relationship because I was like,
if it's not perfect, I'm not getting what I want.
And I had to like not lower my expectations but

(01:40:46):
make them realistic in a way, especially because I read
a lot of romance books. I know, all the romance girlies.
Hear me, like, we cannot compare our book boyfriends to
our husbands or to our men, you know what I mean,
because obviously those books are written by a fuck women
and it's not real. It's not real, like and like.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
It's a fantasy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Yes, that's it. That's literally what it is. It's like
we would be that's the same.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
It's like I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Know, yeah, I mean, but it's.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Like you can't perform like that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
But it's crazy. It's like it's not it's not just
the fact that like those books utilize a woman's sacral okay,
but it's literally that it's like it's an emotional porn,
you know what I mean. It's like because that it
taps into a side of our brain where we're like,
oh my god, the emotional aspect, like this is what
we crave, this is what we want. But most women

(01:41:39):
won't even speak up to their husbands about it, and
most men won't be able to provide that because they
were never taught how So, like obviously those books being
written by women, it's it's hard because we'll come to
have that level of expectation, like I'll never forget. I
went to a Tara reading on my thirtieth birthday and

(01:42:02):
it was just for fun. I was like, Okay, we'll
go to brunch. And then I told my husband. I
was like, pull over here, I want to go get
my cards read just for fun. Like and I go
in and the guy looks at me and he he's like,
you have a very strong man, And I was like,
I fucking do yeah, like absolutely sixty five three hundred pounds,

(01:42:22):
Like this man's the beast with like old man's strength,
you know what I mean. And he goes and he
looks at me and he goes, no, he's like one
of the real lash true like manly men, you know
what I mean? And I don't. I don't say that,
like there's not like manly men out there. But he's
like where there's like that emotional just like no, get

(01:42:46):
it done before, you know, like the last of a
certain generation, you know. And I looked at him and
I was like yeah, and he goes, but I see
something else coming in here of like a fall masculine presence,
and I said, okay. And this at this point, I
was like one hundred and fifty books deep for the

(01:43:06):
year of like starting like I'd read a book and
then my toxic ass would go and start a fight
with him and be like, you're not doing shit the
way that I want. And I went through this.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
This was like.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
Yeah, two years ago, right that he told me this,
and he was like he looks at me and he goes,
are you a reader? And I was like yeah, and
he's like you cannot idolize what you read and make
it reality and mind you Like I don't know if
you guys know like your Lilith sign. You don't, but
it's like your Lilith sign is is like the level

(01:43:44):
of shit that you're going to go through in your life,
like how you deal with things, how you deal with
your darkness, how you deal with your shadow right, I
have a lilist and pisces. I'm all about escapism. I
fuck it, Like, if I'm going through something, I'll read
if I'm like That's why I used to be a runner.
If something happen, I fucking moved to a new town,
fucking like make new friends, start over whatever it may be. Right,

(01:44:09):
not anymore. And I think that's something that I had
to like face, especially with our relationship, was that my
expectations had to be realistic, but they also I also
needed to make sure that my needs were still met emotionally,
So meeting him where he needed to be met emotionally

(01:44:29):
was a big part of it, you know. And I
think that, like I said it, it takes two to tango.
You have to utilize that communication and you have to
be open and honest with each other, Like you cannot
wait until things pile up and blow up for you
to be heard.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
Like you know, I've had friends like this where it's
like I see friends dating somebody and it's like yo,
like you're not even the same person when you're around her.
I was like, how long are you going to wear
this Halloween mask?

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
For? It's really a shame the things that we'll do
to try to make peop.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
You know. And then here and then here's what happens
is it comes a point in time where you can
only you can only play the play the part and
you know, act a certain way for so long before
before the true colors come out. Well, then guess what happens.
Then you speak up and now you start communicating on
you'll you know, hey I need this, Hey I need this,
and your partner's looking at you. Where the fuck did

(01:45:25):
that come from? Well I've actually needed this from the beginning,
but I was just you know, holding back on the communication.
I think that's a that's a that's a huge one.
And especially you know I, you know, I came from
a household like this as well. You know, there wasn't
that communication. So if there's if you don't grow up

(01:45:46):
in a in a household where parents are communicating, you see,
you know, people working through issues, your parents working through issues,
you don't really know how to deal with that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Ye see, Like my household was very reactive, where his
households was very avoidant. Like his parents didn't communicate, didn't talk.
My parents were fucking at each other's throats, like angry, yelling,
screaming whenever they could to try to get their point across.
So that was how I was raised to have conflict
resolution with yell and scream and fight. When he was like,

(01:46:17):
I'm just going to go take a nap and not
talk to you for twelve hours, you know what I mean,
and we both had to come together where it was like, Okay,
I'm coming to communicate something to you about my needs
to make our relationship better. Not because I would get upset.
I still get upset sometimes if he comes at me

(01:46:37):
or comes back at me with like a level of defense, right,
So that's what we talk about. It's like, Hey, you
don't need to defend yourself because I'm not coming at
you to make you wrong. I'm coming at you to
make you see something that we need to change together
as a couple to make this work better. Like I'm
trying to make your life more peaceful.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
So like like, yeah, but also, what is it. It's
like men fall in love with the women that stress
them out, while we fall in love with the men
that make us feel safe, like make us feel safe,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
But when a man surrenders is when a man is
at peace.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
Yes, and there's there is definitely a level of surrender,
especially because you're a woman. Your woman's there to be
your queen. She's there to like guide you. So that's
that's what it is. It's like the man puts all
of the ideas that are crafted by the like you say,
like say your your girlfriend comes up to you, right,

(01:47:38):
and she's like, do you have a business venture? And
you go, yeah, I want to do this? And she goes,
all right, got it. She could build you an entire
empire with her intuitive creation, like her creative nature, and
assist you. That's what men and women are supposed to do.
They're supposed to assist each other. They're supposed to allow

(01:47:59):
each other to like flow together and utilize both the
masculine and feminine energy to come together. Right. We were
taught to clash that men were supposed to do everything
and women were supposed to just be at home, And
in reality, we're supposed to help each other. We're supposed
to create businesses together, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Roles, roles are truly important, Yes, And I think I
think you know, there's a there's there's a lot of
weird chitter chatter out there about you know, men's roles,
women's roles you got you know, you got these like
alpha you know, alpha females, and you know there's there
gets to be some some messy shit I won't even
get into.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
But yeah, to ease their yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
But I think the roles are truly super important.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
I think that makes it work when a man is
capable of how do I say this, because obviously, like
it takes a lot for a man to put a
woman in her feminine nature to be able to feel safe,
to be able to kind of relax and to regulate
her nervous system of the above, but it takes a

(01:49:03):
level of surrender from the woman to be able to
let go of her masculine protective guard to be able
to respond to a man like that. And it's like
we're not taught how to like feel safe with each other. Yeah,
you know, And I think that that's something like especially

(01:49:25):
because like with with alpha females, that's coming from a
very protective place. Fuck yeah, for them, they're healing in
their own way, you know, but they're also like the
submissive females that are like I want to be loved,
I want to be adore, but they also have probably
gone through so many hard things that they have a
level of protection that's blocking them. And that's not anything

(01:49:46):
to be ashamed of. We all heal differently, We all heal.
We've all gone through heavy shit, you know, so like.

Speaker 5 (01:49:53):
So navigate that, then, like how do you navigate like
the like the wall right, like the masculinergy to become
you know, to submitting kind of that's the wrong word,
but like to let go of that and like be
able to be nurtured and.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Taken care of.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
Trust. Trust is probably the start. It's like the start
of your foundation. Okay, it's what you build upon. Okay.
I need to be able to trust that you've got me.
I need to be able to trust that you're capable
of hearing what I need to communicate to you without

(01:50:36):
like you thinking that I'm attacking you. Right where I
can be heard safely and seen safely, Like if you're
having trouble with your woman, you need to look at
where she needs to feel seen, look at where she
needs to feel heard, Look at where you need to
talk to her in a gentle way, because listen, don't

(01:50:58):
we don't really respond well to like to like anger
or to like that, like I don't want to deal
with this. We're very much like okay, because we're we're
just trying to figure it out. But also like us
as women, we have to figure out our own shit too.
We have to allow that trust to come forward. We
have to allow you to to take the lead, like

(01:51:22):
I talke to all my It's it's simple things, right,
like putting yourself and your feminine and like this works
for some people, not for all people. So take what
I say with a grain of salt. Whatever resonates resonates.
It's literally like I will, like if I'm walking up
to a door, right, if we're walking up to a
door of a restaurant, I stop in front of the door.

(01:51:44):
I'm not I'm not touching that fucking handle. Yeah my
husband is and he's opening that door.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Like my husband now fights me if I reach for
the car door, He's like, what what are you doing?
Like he'll like hit you know. But it's it's literally
little things like that where it's like, Okay, I feel
comfortable asking him to help me. I feel comfortable asking
him for support. Like I have women that come to
me and they're like my husband, I've asked him thirty
times to help me clean or to take the trash

(01:52:10):
out or whatever, you know, and they get so fucking
angry about it, and then they just do it themselves. Right,
They'll just be like, I'm gonna take the trash out
because you won't, and then it starts a big rift.
You go up to it them and you say, hey,
that trash is overflowing and I really would like to
continue cleaning. Please take it out right now. Communicate, Communicate

(01:52:32):
like it's not the fact that like you weren't heard
one time, you know, And I know that's something that's
very hard that people struggle with, like if you have
to repeat yourself multiple times. But that's the thing. We're
all we're all just kids at heart, you know what
I mean. Yeah, Like you sit there and like obviously,

(01:52:52):
if you're communicating with a child, you're patient with a child, right,
But we're not patient with each other. We're like, you're
an adult, what the fuck is your problem? You should
know the ship by now, right. So, Like obviously there's
there's there's levels to it where it's like okay, like
and then and then if your man doesn't do things
or your woman doesn't do things, it's like I'm raising you.
I feel like I'm not with a partner. I feel

(01:53:14):
like I'm with like a child. Right, So you have
to communicate properly, and you have to and you have
to literally allow them to step up for themselves, yes,
to step into that role, because if you start pulling
back doing everything for them, they're going to have to
do it themselves, right. And if they don't step up,

(01:53:34):
they don't step up. But if they do step up,
that's them trying to to actually move towards making things.

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
I think so many men don't understand that. Is like,
you want you want your woman to act a certain way,
you have to step up as a man in a
certain way. And if you step up as a man
in those areas and provide those gaps and those needs
of your woman, you will be shocked that they will
step You know, they're they're going to step in line

(01:54:05):
and pick up those areas of slack that you're probably
been wanting from them.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
Yeah. I think the thing is is that we're very
fucking simple creatures.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Yeah, we're so.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
And I think that you guys have been taught that
like we're not you know, you guys have been taught
that we're like so complex and we have all these
and mind you, we do like what is it like
you guys two thoughts a minute in your head? Lucky
motherfuckers like you guys get to think about two things
per minut. Women think about fifty yeah, fifty plus per.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
Well, every every action causes a reaction.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Yes, and we analyze and we we dissect and we
go through things where we especially because a lot of
us are trained to be hyper vigilant and protective over
ourselves as women, you know, so like if you don't
make us feel safe in these certain areas, we are

(01:55:02):
not going to allow you to provide the level of protection.
We're going to take care of it ourselves. And that
creates like alpha females have been hurt, have been hurt,
and mind you, I was like, yeah, we got that
energy for a reason, Like, dude, I think that some
there goes it goes without saying that there is a problem,

(01:55:28):
especially like in my past with how I've had to
deal with like my own father and stuff like that,
and like, mind you, this is different for everybody like
I said, take what resonates, like how I've had to
deal with my own father, Like dude, I've had budded
dudes that are fucking six or five. Like I've fucking
physically fought men, mind you a box. But like it's

(01:55:52):
it's literally like that's something that I had to Like
if you spoke to me in a certain way, oh
my god, Like there there was no way, there was
no fucking talking and like mind you, like I don't talk,
like it's just fucking we'll throw hands and that's it.
But like it was trained very well. But like it's

(01:56:13):
not that's not something that I would want to show
for my daughter, you know, like I'd want to show
my daughter who she should feel safe with and who
like the type of men that don't bring out that
side of you, and what to avoid and like you know,
it's like now I have a seven year old little

(01:56:35):
girl and a fourteen year old like stepdaughter that I
have to be the example for. And mind you, obviously
they have seen me fight with their dad, and that's
that's fine because they've seen the conflict resolution, they've seen
how we've come together. Obviously it's like they're going to
go through their own level of healing with those things,

(01:56:57):
and I'm going to be there to a system through
that because you know.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
And it's kind of a weird take, but I think
it's it's honestly sometimes good for you know, your your
kids to see that like, hey, not everything's perfect, not
everything's easy, and I think it's actually good to see like,
you know, hey, like we're going to go through ship
sh It's gonna happen, but we're going to work through
this and.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Yeah, that's the positive resolved.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
I don't think that's a weird take at all. I
think that's that's how it should be.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
One on one thing I'd like to know, and I
think this might be a good little thing to kind
of close us up. So you have obviously tons of clients,
You're you're booked out, you know, real far. You know,
you have people who come in you you know, do
a variety of different packages with them, different healing, et cetera.

(01:57:51):
They get tattooed, they're on their way. What my question
for you would be is do you do like any
like post healing follow up with your clients or do
they come back to you for like other sessions, Because
I think this would be something. You know, anyone who's
watching that you know might want a book with you.

(01:58:12):
I think they're probably thinking in their head, like, you know,
should I do this? Should I not do this? And
you know, how would this benefit me? So I would
be curious just you know, just in general, talk a
little bit about you know, I'm sure you have clients
to reach out to you give you feedback, you know,
tell you how it's changed them or benefit them whatever.

(01:58:33):
Talk a little bit about that, you know, post you know,
post healing, you know, reiki session with you package, however
you want to witchcraft whatever it'd be. What what's been
your feedback and you know how does that look?

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
Honestly, everyone's feedback has left me with a level of
gratitude that is like so powerful. I think that when
I started this, I never really realized how big it
was going to get and how wonderful and fulfilling it
was going to be and feel. And I have clients

(01:59:15):
that will message me months years after and they'll tell me,
like what I predicted for them in the session came true,
or they up and quit their they were going to
quit because I like, I'll pull cards and we'll talk
about it, and I'll be like, this is what's not
serving you. This is what I feel like because I

(01:59:37):
don't give advice. Okay, that's something that like I don't
want to ever do with my clients because like, you
have free will power. Free will is absolutely everything. So
like if I tell you, like I think you should
do this, this, this, this, You're gonna be like what why?
You have to be able to make your own decisions, right,
So I try to communicate to my clients things in

(02:00:03):
a way where it makes them have acts of self
realization where they find their clarity within themselves. Like I communicate,
and that's a way of also protecting my energy as well.
But I make them look at things through their own
personal lens and make them see their own shadows and
give love to their shadows, and and they go through healing,

(02:00:27):
you know, like they.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Are jowing guidance. It's not really advice, it's you. You're
kind of guiding them on this whole like self discovery.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
Yeah. Well because listen, like I'm simply I'm a channeler, Okay,
So being a psychic intuitive I channel I'm capable of
connecting with loved ones on the other side all of
these different things, so I'm able to utilize all these
different aspects in our session to be able to provide

(02:00:56):
the correct guidance. But the thing is is that I'm
channeling their subconscious energy. So their subconscious energy is being
channeled through me, and I'm telling them what it wants
them to know, so their higher self, you know what
I mean? And mind you like, I wouldn't separate you
from your highest self. You're the highest version of yourself

(02:01:16):
that you are right now, right, Yeah, It's like it's
like the more that you're like, oh, I want to
reach my higher self, I'm like, you're separating yourself from yourself,
like you are your highest self still out you know.
But it's like I think that it's so fucking cool
to recognize and see the amount of growth that comes
from these sessions. I do check in, especially if like,

(02:01:41):
because I'll check in if you if I feel like
you don't need to check in. If I'm like, you
fucking got this, I don't need to check in. But
there are people where I'm like, you made avow of yourself,
I'm gonna come and check up on you and be like,
did you make that should happen and that is something
that has been happening my whole entire career because I
before I started Reggian, before I became a reiki master,

(02:02:04):
I was doing these energetic exchanges with people that were
causing them to be like like it was like they
were coming to see me and they're like, this is happening,
this is happening, this is happening. How should I handle it?
What should I do? And I'm like telling them all
these things, and I realized how they would come back
and they'd still be going through the same stuff because

(02:02:26):
they didn't do the work. So mind you, when people
are coming to see me, like I said, you cannot
heal everybody, right, so they are only going to take
what resonates and what is meant for them, and they're
going to run with that. And I think that's good
enough for me. And in my opinion, I'm like, if
you take that way, yes, if you take one good,

(02:02:48):
healthy thing from our session, I'm fucking stoked for you, you
know what I mean. But like, after you leave me,
you have to do the work. It's like you have
a tattoo I'm going to send you home with after
Karen instructions, it's your job to heal it from that
point forward. Right. So it's the same with this energetic session.
I'm giving you tools A, B, and C. You pick

(02:03:10):
the one that you you want to utilize first, and
then if you use the rest of them, damn, that's it. Right.
So it's just it's just a matter of like understanding
that they everybody is on their own journey, and everybody
is on their own path to self discovery and their
own path to alignment. And I just get to, like

(02:03:32):
I said, it be a stepping stone.

Speaker 1 (02:03:36):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
Honestly, this is this is an awesome conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
I'm super stoked I got to be here with you guys.

Speaker 3 (02:03:40):
Thank you for having of course we will before we
let you out.

Speaker 5 (02:03:44):
What can you what can you tell us? What you
spend about over two hours with us?

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
How do you what's our what's our what's your take
on the energy that Evan and I bring into a room?

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
Oh my god. First of all, like the first time
I'm at you connected, immediately you were like chopping it up,
having a great time. I think that you guys are
extremely personable, and I think that you both exude like
a willingness to learn. I think that That's one of
the most beautiful things about the two of you because
you can like clearly see it like you're extremely invested,

(02:04:16):
which means that you're connecting with the souls that you're
working with and dealing with, and that's going to bring
you very far. I think that also, Like it's just yeah,
the willingness to learn. You guys are like really beautiful individuals,
especially like, dude, you're an awesome dad. And I only

(02:04:38):
got to talk to you for like ten minutes about that,
you know, and I can see how you want to
be better and you want to work and be more
for both your woman and your child, you know what
I mean. Like there's I loved that about you the
first moment that you told that about like to me,
you know, and same with you. I feel like you're

(02:05:00):
streamly personal. I feel like you care a lot about
your friends. Their energy here is very very good. Obviously,
we all have things to work on, but as long
as you're working on them and you're actually putting forth
that effort, you guys are gonna go really fucking far.
This is awesome. This is very cool.

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
Appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:18):
Yeah, And we will.

Speaker 3 (02:05:19):
We'll make sure to put all your links, whether it's TikTok, Instagram,
all your socials will put it in the in the bio.
So anyone, anyone that's watching and I would like to do,
you'd like to get on the books, make sure you
plan in advance.

Speaker 2 (02:05:37):
October twenty six. Yeah, take up.

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
I appreciate it, See you guys on the next one.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
Bye. Oh my gosh, that was great.

Speaker 1 (02:05:49):
Guys, that was great.

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